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Sussex Police and Crime Commissioner election results

    Conservative candidate Katy Bourne wins the Sussex Police and Crime Commissioner election.
  • Turnout 15.82% across Sussex.
  • Spoilt papers were 3.06% of the vote.

Comments


gaz scott 10:01am Fri 16 Nov 12

Next time we hear anyone claiming Union ballots or strikes are illegitimate because of limited numbers who actually bother to vote just say "PCC".

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Saltdean Resident 10:11am Fri 16 Nov 12

What a complete waist of time and money, i'm sure if they had an option on the voting card to keep the status quo then that would have won hands down. Now we have politicians in charge of the police, great!

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Shinypurpleshadow 10:25am Fri 16 Nov 12

I'd love to know how many spoiled ballots there are from each area in Sussex.

Most people I know who took the time to go to the polls spoiled their papers in protest at the illegitimacy of the elections.

Please report these figures if you can!

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mimseycal 10:28am Fri 16 Nov 12

Shambles ... utter shambles. If anyone does get the post, how on earth can they ever claim to have the confidence of the community?

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Indigatio 10:31am Fri 16 Nov 12

Shinypurpleshadow wrote…


I'd love to know how many spoiled ballots there are from each area in Sussex.

Most people I know who took the time to go to the polls spoiled their papers in protest at the illegitimacy of the elections.

Please report these figures if you can!

I hope they do too. I spoilt my ballot paper as a protest.

With such a low turnout whoever is elcted cannot claim to have a mandate to serve.

Complete waste of time and money

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Romany65 10:34am Fri 16 Nov 12

I voted ..Really cannot see how anyone can make any valid comments unless they voted?

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peebee9 10:36am Fri 16 Nov 12

Having a PCC is just the Governments way of 'passing-the-buck' on crime. At present, if the crime figures are bad, the Government gets the blame. With the 'elected' PCC they will be responsible.

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Saltdean Resident 10:49am Fri 16 Nov 12

Romany65 wrote…


I voted ..Really cannot see how anyone can make any valid comments unless they voted?

You miss the point, i would agree with you if people were complaining about the winning candidate, we are not.

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Chieftain11 10:59am Fri 16 Nov 12

Yet again, common sense has prevailed among ordinary people. It looks to me like it's only members of political parties who have voted correctly. In other words, policing is to be led by little more than political wonk brains. It would be nice if a few Chief Constables around Britain told these clowns where to go.

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DC78 11:00am Fri 16 Nov 12

Saltdean Resident wrote…


Romany65 wrote…


I voted ..Really cannot see how anyone can make any valid comments unless they voted?
You miss the point, i would agree with you if people were complaining about the winning candidate, we are not.

If you did not turn up to either cast a vote or spoil the paper, you have no right to complain. If you want status quo, you turn up and spoil your paper by writing that on it.

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Romany65 11:10am Fri 16 Nov 12

Whether or not we agree this election, it is happening. So the best we can do is vote for the best canditate from those we are presented with.and that is what I did

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Chieftain11 11:11am Fri 16 Nov 12

I did not vote for several reasons. The main one being, who is going to be the Deputy Commissioner and how is that person going to be appointed ? ?. It looks to me like the political parties will decide as they paid the £5,000 deposits for their candidates. ! I refuse to aid and abet such devious shenanigans by voting. As has been said before, the circus is being run from the monkey house.

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DC78 11:17am Fri 16 Nov 12

Chieftain11 wrote…


I did not vote for several reasons. The main one being, who is going to be the Deputy Commissioner and how is that person going to be appointed ? ?. It looks to me like the political parties will decide as they paid the £5,000 deposits for their candidates. ! I refuse to aid and abet such devious shenanigans by voting. As has been said before, the circus is being run from the monkey house.

I hope although you didn't vote, you did attend to spoil your paper by writing down your grievances. A high number of spoilt votes can question the validity of the election. If you didn't either vote or spoil your vote in protest, you have no right to complain.

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Saltdean Resident 11:18am Fri 16 Nov 12

DC78 wrote…


Saltdean Resident wrote…


Romany65 wrote…


I voted ..Really cannot see how anyone can make any valid comments unless they voted?
You miss the point, i would agree with you if people were complaining about the winning candidate, we are not.
If you did not turn up to either cast a vote or spoil the paper, you have no right to complain. If you want status quo, you turn up and spoil your paper by writing that on it.

I did. And if people did not of course they have a right to complain as this was not a vote on the change but a vote on who controls that change. The two must be separated, this is not the same as not turning out for a general election then complaining about who won. As has already been stated the common sense of the people has been shown by ignoring the vote completely.

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Poccypoc 11:22am Fri 16 Nov 12

I voted.

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DC78 11:23am Fri 16 Nov 12

Saltdean Resident wrote…


DC78 wrote…


Saltdean Resident wrote…


Romany65 wrote…


I voted ..Really cannot see how anyone can make any valid comments unless they voted?
You miss the point, i would agree with you if people were complaining about the winning candidate, we are not.
If you did not turn up to either cast a vote or spoil the paper, you have no right to complain. If you want status quo, you turn up and spoil your paper by writing that on it.
I did. And if people did not of course they have a right to complain as this was not a vote on the change but a vote on who controls that change. The two must be separated, this is not the same as not turning out for a general election then complaining about who won. As has already been stated the common sense of the people has been shown by ignoring the vote completely.

A high number of spoilt votes can bring the election into question. Spoilt papers can influence 'if' rather than 'who'

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fascinator 11:24am Fri 16 Nov 12

I think that spoiled ballot papers get counted in the turnout

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heartthrob 11:33am Fri 16 Nov 12

A 15 % turnout
Id like to be a fly on the wall when the newbie starts and says I am your new leader and 10% of the community support me being here...

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Saltdean Resident 11:37am Fri 16 Nov 12

DC78 wrote…


Saltdean Resident wrote…


Romany65 wrote…


I voted ..Really cannot see how anyone can make any valid comments unless they voted?
You miss the point, i would agree with you if people were complaining about the winning candidate, we are not.
If you did not turn up to either cast a vote or spoil the paper, you have no right to complain. If you want status quo, you turn up and spoil your paper by writing that on it.

I did, and if people didn't vote at all of course they have the right to complain. They are not complaining about who won as in a general election but about the whole idea. If it aint broke dont fix it.

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fascinator 12:06pm Fri 16 Nov 12

10:39am

Another strong turnout from Conservative Chichester District 16.23%


16.23% is not a strong turnout

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sbiscorrupt 12:17pm Fri 16 Nov 12

People are finally getting the idea...

It doesn't matter what the election is, since the majority of politicians are as bad as each other, and in it for themselves!

And they are failing us by not properly tackling any significant issues...

(I wonder how long it will be before we hear of the first PCC expenses scandal?)

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Andy R 12:22pm Fri 16 Nov 12

DC78 wrote…


Saltdean Resident wrote…

DC78 wrote…

Saltdean Resident wrote…

Romany65 wrote…

I voted ..Really cannot see how anyone can make any valid comments unless they voted?
You miss the point, i would agree with you if people were complaining about the winning candidate, we are not.
If you did not turn up to either cast a vote or spoil the paper, you have no right to complain. If you want status quo, you turn up and spoil your paper by writing that on it.
I did, and if people didn't vote at all of course they have the right to complain. They are not complaining about who won as in a general election but about the whole idea. If it aint broke dont fix it.
Let's get real, the reason for poor turnout was because people just could not be bothered. If they seriously believe 'it's not broke, don't fix it', they have the moral obligation to attend and write that on their paper.

I voted, but I still think people who didn't are perfectly entitled to complain. No-one was under any obligation to attend and write "something" on the ballot paper just because you've decided they had some "duty" to do so. A spoiled ballot paper is no different legally to not voting - no-one's sitting there carefully noting what everyone's written and making a mental note to act on it. They just go into a pile, and the returning officer will quickly show them to the candidates at the end just so they know that none of them ought to have been counted as votes.

Spoiling ballot papers as a "tactic" is overrated. Admittedly a large number of them make a point, but no different to the point made by not turning up.

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rubberflipper 12:38pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Britain doesn't need any more pen-pushing civil servants and/or Common Purpose androids.

These elections should be for Chief Constables of every county.

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getThisCoalitionOut 12:48pm Fri 16 Nov 12

To all those who didn't vote or spoilt ballot papers - well done you've let the conservatives win again - **** - they are exactly who you want to keep out of everything, they're ruining this country and your apathy helps yet again. No wonder this country is in the state it's in with so many ignorant **** in it.

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pjwilk 12:50pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Those who won (not really),it will probobly be the last we ever hear from them.Why anyone voted for a C or a L or a LD is a mystery they deserve all they get.This country needs a real change we need a breath of fresh air who will get us out of the EU and dismantle the BBC.UKIP.

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Charismatic Andrew 12:55pm Fri 16 Nov 12

"Ben Parsons reports lots of spoiled ballots in Brighton apparently. One read: 'No Green Party? I want Ben Duncan.'"

....... it's a shame Ben Duncan decided to spoil his ballot paper like that....

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Charismatic Andrew 12:55pm Fri 16 Nov 12

"Ben Parsons reports lots of spoiled ballots in Brighton apparently. One read: 'No Green Party? I want Ben Duncan.'"

....... it's a shame Ben Duncan decided to spoil his ballot paper like that....

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Hove Actually 12:59pm Fri 16 Nov 12

DC78 wrote…


Saltdean Resident wrote…


Romany65 wrote…


I voted ..Really cannot see how anyone can make any valid comments unless they voted?
You miss the point, i would agree with you if people were complaining about the winning candidate, we are not.
If you did not turn up to either cast a vote or spoil the paper, you have no right to complain. If you want status quo, you turn up and spoil your paper by writing that on it.

WRONG if people decide not to vote that is a failing of Government in not connecting with the people.

Give us a vote on the EU and see how many turn out

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DC78 1:01pm Fri 16 Nov 12

pjwilk wrote…


Those who won (not really),it will probobly be the last we ever hear from them.Why anyone voted for a C or a L or a LD is a mystery they deserve all they get.This country needs a real change we need a breath of fresh air who will get us out of the EU and dismantle the BBC.UKIP.

As UKIP support the nut-job belief of homoeopathy, I hope they only got 1 vote and that was diluted by all the other votes and the more their vote was diluted the stronger their vote got.

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Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit 1:02pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Looking at the results coming in by area it's clear people are just voting for party labels. That could explain why none of the candidates said anything other than anodyne statements such as "I want to cut crime" and why they didn't bother campaigning - they knew it would be a waste of time.

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mimseycal 1:04pm Fri 16 Nov 12

"If 200,000 people voted, that's 200,000 more than were involved before."

Did Simon Kirby indeed make this banal statement? Not that it would surprise me mind you. Simon, my dear old chap, considering these are the very first elections ever, you have nothing to compare it with but even the abysmal voting records of this country generally hit at least 30% ... Talk about disengagement and apathy!

If only 15.8% turned out that is not something to crow about. The highest turn out is somewhere at 17% ... Despicable!!!

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Andy R 1:29pm Fri 16 Nov 12

DC78 wrote…


Andy R wrote…

DC78 wrote…

Saltdean Resident wrote…

DC78 wrote…

Saltdean Resident wrote…

Romany65 wrote…

I voted ..Really cannot see how anyone can make any valid comments unless they voted?
You miss the point, i would agree with you if people were complaining about the winning candidate, we are not.
If you did not turn up to either cast a vote or spoil the paper, you have no right to complain. If you want status quo, you turn up and spoil your paper by writing that on it.
I did, and if people didn't vote at all of course they have the right to complain. They are not complaining about who won as in a general election but about the whole idea. If it aint broke dont fix it.
Let's get real, the reason for poor turnout was because people just could not be bothered. If they seriously believe 'it's not broke, don't fix it', they have the moral obligation to attend and write that on their paper.
I voted, but I still think people who didn't are perfectly entitled to complain. No-one was under any obligation to attend and write "something" on the ballot paper just because you've decided they had some "duty" to do so. A spoiled ballot paper is no different legally to not voting - no-one's sitting there carefully noting what everyone's written and making a mental note to act on it. They just go into a pile, and the returning officer will quickly show them to the candidates at the end just so they know that none of them ought to have been counted as votes. Spoiling ballot papers as a "tactic" is overrated. Admittedly a large number of them make a point, but no different to the point made by not turning up.
Wrong. If there are more spoilt papers than unspoilt papers, then the entire election can be declared as invalid. I did not say that everyone has a duty to vote, but that those that had a strong conviction of opposition to the election had a duty to spoil their papers giving their reason. Not turning up is a vote of apathy and is very different to the point made by vote spoiling.

"If there are more spoilt papers than unspoilt papers, then the entire election can be declared as invalid."

Complete rubbish! Where are you getting that idea from??

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Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit 1:39pm Fri 16 Nov 12

I hope no Brighton and Hove Albion fans voted for David Rogers (the Lib Dem) as he was firmly opposed to the stadium. (If other people can carry political grudges into what SHOULD be a non-political role then I will too!)

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doralora 1:46pm Fri 16 Nov 12

It seems to me that most people voted according to their political persuasion as the areas voting have roughly the same political veiws. Its my opinion that having a party political election for a role which most would agree should be apolitical is just wrong. I also note that the probable winner here also has the least experience with the police which is also pretty depressing.

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The Real Phil 1:51pm Fri 16 Nov 12

getThisCoalitionOut wrote…


To all those who didn't vote or spoilt ballot papers - well done you've let the conservatives win again - **** - they are exactly who you want to keep out of everything, they're ruining this country and your apathy helps yet again. No wonder this country is in the state it's in with so many ignorant **** in it.

Have the CONservatives actually won? I couldn't find anything in the story other than lists of figures and percentages.
The bit that put me right off the tory candidate in my area was the quote along the lines of " I love making money, and I am married to a banker who also loves money". Just makes one a little nervous.

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argunaut 2:09pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Under Brighton and Hove (1:32pm), why is LD listed above UKIP despite winning fewer votes?

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Gael Bage 2:46pm Fri 16 Nov 12

If everyone who did not vote actually went in and spoiled their vote to explain why - most feel te whole system lets the ordinary voter down so why bother ? Please bother next time, because many failed to protest we now have the main two parties fighting it out for control of police - wake up party politics will decide now they will be expected to follow party line as always - and that gets decided in the city and by those who buy party votes - the common voter has no way to compete with that - unless enough of us spoil our voting paper to show what a mockery the whole system is.

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MelsTels 2:54pm Fri 16 Nov 12

The bottom line of all this was to reduce costs from £150000? (or near it) to £85000. Is the PCC going to do all by themselves? Not another penny to be spent? You're in cloud cuckoo land if you believe that. It's done for political reasons and take to your mind off other government gaffes. Let's get back to the police authority - I'd rather a group sit round a table to discuss topics and one person deciding (no names mentioned but there was one about 75 years ago somewhere on the continent)

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Romany65 3:02pm Fri 16 Nov 12

I did not vote for any particular party…I voted for the person i thought would be best at the job, based on the little information sorced online. Did not recieve anything through post from any candidate untill AFTER the election

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MelsTels 3:07pm Fri 16 Nov 12

meant to say "... discuss topics than one person..."

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Thumper Hove 3:20pm Fri 16 Nov 12

I do find it pathetic that people just haven't bothered to vote. Everyone should have taken the time, and if they didn't want a political party running the police, then vote for the Independent candidate.

This action would result in political parties working harder, knowing the public will vote for Independent candidates if they disagree with Con/Lib/Lab policies. The main parties rely on voter apathy - we get bad governments because people cannot be bothered to take a minute to vote.

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ray477 3:39pm Fri 16 Nov 12

I did not vote , do we really need these people ( no) , wish i could earn £85,000 a year just for talking to people , b/coz thats what they are going to be paid for doing, making us think they can change things and make our lives better , political parties will run these people, like everything else , the only people who can stop the A,S,B are the the mothers and farther , by teaching the kids to behave , the court just slap more orders on them , which is like giving them a badge to show there mates,

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Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit 3:42pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Thumper Hove wrote…


I do find it pathetic that people just haven't bothered to vote. Everyone should have taken the time, and if they didn't want a political party running the police, then vote for the Independent candidate. This action would result in political parties working harder, knowing the public will vote for Independent candidates if they disagree with Con/Lib/Lab policies. The main parties rely on voter apathy - we get bad governments because people cannot be bothered to take a minute to vote.

But what about those of us who didn't want party politics to play a part and also thought the independent candidate was easily the worst of the lot? Who were we supposed to vote for?

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nigeyb 4:01pm Fri 16 Nov 12

I didn't vote (for the first time in my adult life) as I don't believe we need the role and none of the candidates were attractive to me. I considered spoiling a ballot paper but concluded that would be churlish. The £100m these elections have cost would have been better used funding more police constables. A complete farce.

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puddingandpi 4:04pm Fri 16 Nov 12

So who's won?

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Tammy Flugh 4:08pm Fri 16 Nov 12

http://www.thedailym
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Andy R 4:13pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote…


Thumper Hove wrote…

I do find it pathetic that people just haven't bothered to vote. Everyone should have taken the time, and if they didn't want a political party running the police, then vote for the Independent candidate. This action would result in political parties working harder, knowing the public will vote for Independent candidates if they disagree with Con/Lib/Lab policies. The main parties rely on voter apathy - we get bad governments because people cannot be bothered to take a minute to vote.
But what about those of us who didn't want party politics to play a part and also thought the independent candidate was easily the worst of the lot? Who were we supposed to vote for?

Crikey! Hard to please or what!

Maybe the answer to your question is that you should have stood yourself!

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Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit 4:50pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Andy R wrote…


Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote…

Thumper Hove wrote…

I do find it pathetic that people just haven't bothered to vote. Everyone should have taken the time, and if they didn't want a political party running the police, then vote for the Independent candidate. This action would result in political parties working harder, knowing the public will vote for Independent candidates if they disagree with Con/Lib/Lab policies. The main parties rely on voter apathy - we get bad governments because people cannot be bothered to take a minute to vote.
But what about those of us who didn't want party politics to play a part and also thought the independent candidate was easily the worst of the lot? Who were we supposed to vote for?
Crikey! Hard to please or what! Maybe the answer to your question is that you should have stood yourself!

Not hard to please at all actually, I was perfectly happy with the existing system.

And I didn't stand for reasons. Firstly I don't think I have the necessary qualities, and secondly and I didn't have a spare £5000 available for a deposit, plus the necessary funds to run a campaign (no party machine behind me see).

Hope that explains my position.

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Brummie0121 4:57pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Like every other election weather it be political or not people moan about the result even when they never voted.
I think it is time we take up the Australian system where it is law to vote and only then will we get a true reflection of who and what people really want and not which side can get the most people to the voting booth.
And for those who spoilt there votes and those who didn't vote shut up you have no right to a voice.

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bug eye 5:28pm Fri 16 Nov 12

low turnout is never an excuse for brighton and hove council when talking about consultations, if 15% reply then the scheme always goes through from parking zones to bus lanes. residents of brighton and hove also need to remember it was labour that introduced bus lanes, cycle lanes, permit zones and bankrupt the country, and would now be cutting services, when voting in elections.

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Jase Brighton 5:46pm Fri 16 Nov 12

A 15% turnout, is quite high when looking around the national scene. Seems more people in Brighton and Hove support such a waste of public money as the PCC's than elsewhere.

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The Heretic 6:06pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Thumper Hove wrote: "I do find it pathetic that people just haven't bothered to vote."

For the record, I've turned out for EVERY election, local, national referendum and EU ever since I've been elegible to vote. Until now.

With no option to signal outright rejection of this farcical process, on consideration, even turning out to spoil my ballot would have added to the turnout figures in this flawed exercise. What is truly pathetic is that coverage and debate both of the bill and on the hustings has been risible. Even those who voted must find the almost toal absence of any real campaign or leafletting a disappointment.

The lack of an option for outright rejection means there was NO true choice for a post very many don't want to see created in the first place, so boycotting the whole procedure was the only logical option for many. This daft imported sham procedure will now try to pretend legitimacy it doesn't have on a turnout of less than 1 in 5, with 3 times the normal number of spoiled ballots.

Pathetic, Thumper? Congratulations on letting politicians into the police service - after all, they've done such a bang up job everywhere else.

In truth, there is NO mandate for this bankrupt scheme, and the whole thing should now be dropped.

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leobrighton 6:13pm Fri 16 Nov 12

SO BASICALLY WE NOW HAVE A CONSERVATIVE CONTROLLED POLICE FORCE

THANKS

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Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit 6:16pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Brummie0121 wrote…


Like every other election weather it be political or not people moan about the result even when they never voted. I think it is time we take up the Australian system where it is law to vote and only then will we get a true reflection of who and what people really want and not which side can get the most people to the voting booth. And for those who spoilt there votes and those who didn't vote shut up you have no right to a voice.

Utter rubbish - a bit like the choice of candidates. And I think the concept of compulsory voting is at odd with the concept of a free society, but at least in Australia there is a 'None of the above' option on the ballot

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Freeloaders 6:32pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Wish i had voted now this women looks pure evil,and her husbands is a banker.

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Freeloaders 6:35pm Fri 16 Nov 12

leobrighton wrote…


SO BASICALLY WE NOW HAVE A CONSERVATIVE CONTROLLED POLICE FORCE

THANKS

Good post my friend.The police now only work for the rich so this could spell real trouble for the man & women in the street.

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mimseycal 6:35pm Fri 16 Nov 12

4:33pm on 16th November 2012 is the moment in history when it was officially acknowledged that we are going to hell in a hand basket!

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ya basta 6:53pm Fri 16 Nov 12

93.4% of registered voters did not vote for Bourne but we're told that this is what the people want.

Pull the other one its got bells on.

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Chieftain11 6:56pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Thumper Hove wrote…


I do find it pathetic that people just haven't bothered to vote. Everyone should have taken the time, and if they didn't want a political party running the police, then vote for the Independent candidate.

This action would result in political parties working harder, knowing the public will vote for Independent candidates if they disagree with Con/Lib/Lab policies. The main parties rely on voter apathy - we get bad governments because people cannot be bothered to take a minute to vote.

Voters have stayed away because they either did not understand what they were voting for or, like me, totally disagreed with this appointment from start to finish.

This was the first election of any sort I didn't vote in because, as you make very clear, it's politicization of the police. Now, off you go and help choose her Deputy behind closed doors. His or her salary will be about £40,000 with a police pension.

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TheStinkingLeft 7:14pm Fri 16 Nov 12

leobrighton wrote…


SO BASICALLY WE NOW HAVE A CONSERVATIVE CONTROLLED POLICE FORCE

THANKS

Better than a labour controlled Police Force - just imagine it - MPs stealing, immigrants not being caught or deported, minority groups being allowed to cause disruption to the town centre.

Hang on a minute, isn't that what happens now?

Maybe a Labour Police force has been in place all along.

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Dr Wombleface 7:15pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Doomed, we're all doomed!

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Metro Reader 8:39pm Fri 16 Nov 12

did not and do not agree with this, but I did vote.

It is shocking on two accouts, first the did not get any information form any of the candidates, second that the police are now controlled by the main (corupt) policical parties.

The person that 'won' can ever say she has a mandate.

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gnarlychaos 9:40pm Fri 16 Nov 12

The non voters were probably doing more important things like helping the police with there enquiries or maybe even trolling the Argus website.

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Somethingsarejustwrong 10:24pm Fri 16 Nov 12

gaz scott wrote…


Next time we hear anyone claiming Union ballots or strikes are illegitimate because of limited numbers who actually bother to vote just say "PCC".

Similar level of interest to occupy Brighton......Diddly squat

People like you make me giggle

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Alison Smith 11:10pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Well done Katy Bourne, the only candidate I got literature from & was canvassed by. Perhaps that's why she won?

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The Heretic 11:20pm Fri 16 Nov 12

mimseycal wrote…


4:33pm on 16th November 2012 is the moment in history when it was officially acknowledged that we are going to hell in a hand basket!

That started with Amenhotep IV, and just got worse since foundation of 'the Fed' 100 years ago. Bad day for democracy all the same.

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John Steed 9:34am Sat 17 Nov 12

doralora wrote…


It seems to me that most people voted according to their political persuasion as the areas voting have roughly the same political veiws. Its my opinion that having a party political election for a role which most would agree should be apolitical is just wrong. I also note that the probable winner here also has the least experience with the police which is also pretty depressing.

in worthing the independant came a credible 2nd, I fully concur on the rest of your statement

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Romany65 10:30am Sat 17 Nov 12

So now the whinging begins…A Conservative got elected blah blah….If you did not bother to vote then live with it! This election was always going to happen so it was up to you to use your vote. Put up or shut up. Simple's.

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Romany65 10:31am Sat 17 Nov 12

So now the whinging begins…A Conservative got elected blah blah….If you did not bother to vote then live with it! This election was always going to happen so it was up to you to use your vote. Put up or shut up. Simple's.

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AmboGuy 12:06pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwro
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gaz scott wrote…


Next time we hear anyone claiming Union ballots or strikes are illegitimate because of limited numbers who actually bother to vote just say "PCC".
Similar level of interest to occupy Brighton......Diddly squat

People like you make me giggle

Ha ha good point, Gaz does trip himself up with his rhetoric sometimes!!

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sussexram40 1:49pm Sat 17 Nov 12

I completely oppose the idea. No place for politicians in Policing. I didnt vote on purpose. None of the winners has any authority or mandate so its a total waste of time. When over 90% of voters didnt want you doing the job then you cant do it effectively. Basically, every candidate lost and nobody won.

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Brightonlocal 3:14pm Sat 17 Nov 12

There were independant candidates who had no political affiliation. An ex cop and a retired police authrity member. We didnt bother to vote for them, this is what happens...

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Freeloaders 4:48pm Sat 17 Nov 12

gnarlychaos wrote…


The non voters were probably doing more important things like helping the police with there enquiries or maybe even trolling the Argus website.

What a stupid coment after such a poor turn out.I think its safe to say you are a work shy copper with nothing better to do.

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Idontbelieveit1948 4:57pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Freeloaders wrote…


leobrighton wrote…


SO BASICALLY WE NOW HAVE A CONSERVATIVE CONTROLLED POLICE FORCE

THANKS
Good post my friend.The police now only work for the rich so this could spell real trouble for the man & women in the street.

Personally I'm quite happy if the force sorts out freeoaders !

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Freeloaders 6:24pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Yes but they don't they just go for easy target.Its just about getting convictions so the paper work looks good.You only have to read the posts on st james street & London rd.Or more so after the Carlo Dawes trial.There were hundreds that all feel the same as me.People getting kicked in the head just yards from their station & they don't even turn up.What do they do just tell the Argus to remove the posts.Lets face it you don't need a lot of brains to work out there is a big problem in Brighton with Liverpool drugs gangs.Just over the last few weeks there have been three murder trials in the Argus,and all three there is talk of Liverpool drug gangs.Its been going on for years but you never see anyone getting charged or put away in the Argus.If there are three thousand users in the City,ask yourself how many dealers does that make.

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C. French 12:40pm Sun 18 Nov 12

My congratulations to Katy Bourne on winning the PCC role. Katy is a lovely lady, but completely unsuitable for this role. Katy has a lack of Police experience and I have serious doubts about her accuracy with numbers, both key requirements for this role, in order to hold the Chief Constable of Sussex to account.

She talks a lot about her "proven ability" and "strong budgetary control", however I have deep concerns about her bold claims. Her PCC manifesto made financial claims that appear to me highly inaccurate, consequently misleading and have yet to be corroborated.

I have challenged her and her Election Agent, on their Conservative PCC manifesto claims, that the Sussex Police Authority costs £245k, when the figures from the Sussex Police Authority's accounts show a figure of £179k. I am still awaiting a satisfactory explanation from Katy and her Election Agent as to where Katy's £245k figure came from.

http://ukipmidsx.org
/katy-bournes-pcc-co
st-saving-claims/

Chris French
Chairman
UKIP Mid Sussex
www.ukipmidsx.org

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Fairfax Sakes 2:31pm Mon 19 Nov 12

As long as she's prepared to turn the hoses on the rabble when needed, I'll be happy enough.

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mictrix 8:22pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Romany65 wrote…


Whether or not we agree this election, it is happening. So the best we can do is vote for the best canditate from those we are presented with.and that is what I did

yes we get it... hooray! you voted jolly good for you... yawn

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mictrix 8:26pm Mon 19 Nov 12

puddingandpi wrote…


So who's won?

lol

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AmboGuy 9:12pm Mon 19 Nov 12

mictrix wrote…


puddingandpi wrote…


So who's won?
lol

Won what?

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OneThatknows 3:56pm Wed 21 Nov 12

I believe most didnt even know why this was started its a half baked New York idea which doesnt even work on Wall Street I thought everyone knew that except Mr Moron.

Spoiling the ballot was just a protest better than sitting at home doing this.

Word to the unwise destroy your debit cards NOW.

Cancel your cell phones TV licenses use letters or encrypted emails Tweet Cameron hourly over injustices. Ask awkward questions STOP buying stuff you dont need and get a better job where you are wanted trusted and appreciated.

Works for me.

I retired 18 years ago at Age 48 so should everyone

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OneThatknows 4:02pm Wed 21 Nov 12

I worked for LLoyds bank resigned after 11 years of bad treatment except by one brilliant manager God rest His Soul Geoffrey Hills sadly missed a true gentleman respected and trusted by 5000 customers at East Grinstead and Canterbury and Bournemouth

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AmboGuy 7:26pm Wed 21 Nov 12

OneThatknows wrote…


I worked for LLoyds bank resigned after 11 years of bad treatment except by one brilliant manager God rest His Soul Geoffrey Hills sadly missed a true gentleman respected and trusted by 5000 customers at East Grinstead and Canterbury and Bournemouth

Errrr???? What?

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OneThatknows 2:40pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Errrr???? What?

The police in North Wales misidentified the picture for Messhams child abuse threatened huim with death burned his house down and all you can say is Err What??

FI!

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OneThatknows 2:40pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Errrr???? What?

The police in North Wales misidentified the picture for Messhams child abuse threatened him with death burned his house down and all you can say is Err What??


FI!

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AmboGuy 11:41pm Thu 22 Nov 12

OneThatknows wrote…


Errrr???? What?

The police in North Wales misidentified the picture for Messhams child abuse threatened him with death burned his house down and all you can say is Err What??


FI!

What are you on? Are you confused?

This is a story about the newly elected Crime Commissioner for Sussex and you come on here banging on about someone called Geoffrey Hills and telling us to cancel our 'cell' phones! Now you're talking about child abuse in North Wales, I think most people would be thinking 'Err What' looking at your bizarre rant.
FI !!

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