The ArgusRoy Whiting stabbed twice in the eye with a toilet brush because he was a 'dirty little nonce', court told (From The Argus)

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Roy Whiting stabbed twice in the eye with a toilet brush because he was a 'dirty little nonce', court told

A double murderer stabbed Sarah Payne’s killer Roy Whiting in the eye twice in prison because he was a "dirty little nonce", a court has heard.

Gary Vinter, 42, picked a high profile target in July 2011 because he wanted to change the conditions in which he was held at Wakefield Prison.

Whiting, a convicted sex offender sentenced to life in prison in 2001 for the murder of eight-year-old Sarah near her grandparents’ home in Kingston Gorse, Ferring, received emergency care following the attack in his cell and has made a full recovery.

Vinter appeared via a videolink from Long Lartin Prison, Worcestershire, before Mr Justice Openshaw sitting at Newcastle Crown Court yesterday.

After hearing Andrew Kershaw, prosecuting, give an explanation for the gruesome attack, Vinter said: "He was a dirty little nonce. That's why I did it."

Vinter, from Middlesbrough, sneaked into Whiting's cell and used a sharpened plastic toilet brush handle to stab Whiting in both eyes. Vinter then kicked and punched Whiting as he lay on the floor, before he left the cell.

The double murderer later told prison authorities "the only reason Whiting was still alive is he got tired during the attack," Mr Kershaw said.

Vinter told officers he had tried to kill Whiting, that as a "natural life" prisoner he had no hope and he had warned the authorities he would target a "high-profiler".

Whiting was treated at Pinderfields Hospital where he received stitches in his eye lids and the shard of plastic was removed.

Vinter admitted wounding with intent at a previous hearing and was given an indefinite sentence, with a notional minimum term of five years.

Vinter is appealing against his full life term before European Human Rights judges at the end of this month.

In 1996 Vinter was jailed for life for murdering Carl Edon, 22, a railway signalman.

He was released from prison in 2006 after serving a ten-year minimum term. He was recalled to prison for his part in a pub brawl and then went on to murder his wife Anne White, 40, four years ago.

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9:01am Thu 22 Nov 12

Orlando Faark says...

This would never have happened if both murderers had been executed. This good deed alone would also have saved over £1 million that could be better spent on rebuilding the lives of survivors and preventing crime.
This would never have happened if both murderers had been executed. This good deed alone would also have saved over £1 million that could be better spent on rebuilding the lives of survivors and preventing crime. Orlando Faark
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9:09am Thu 22 Nov 12

brighton-breezy says...

This is a very sad story for two reasons, firstly that Roy Whiting has made a full recovery and didn't die. and secondly that Gary Vinter didn't turn on himself and end his own life. Just by loosing these two evil blights, assuming they both naturally live until they are 75, at a current cost of approx £95,000 per prisoner per year we as tax payers would have saved £5,225,000.
This is a very sad story for two reasons, firstly that Roy Whiting has made a full recovery and didn't die. and secondly that Gary Vinter didn't turn on himself and end his own life. Just by loosing these two evil blights, assuming they both naturally live until they are 75, at a current cost of approx £95,000 per prisoner per year we as tax payers would have saved £5,225,000. brighton-breezy
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9:09am Thu 22 Nov 12

Roger Francais says...

Gary Vinter?

Is he anything to with the former TVS complex just outside Maidstone?

Home of Catchphrase - That wonderful Alphabet quiz show - All Clued Up (hosted by pint sized syrup wearer Diddy David Hamilton and of course, the hard hitting politcal magazine programme - Agenda.
Gary Vinter? Is he anything to with the former TVS complex just outside Maidstone? Home of Catchphrase - That wonderful Alphabet quiz show - All Clued Up (hosted by pint sized syrup wearer Diddy David Hamilton and of course, the hard hitting politcal magazine programme - Agenda. Roger Francais
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9:29am Thu 22 Nov 12

Morpheus says...

The people suggesting that these two prisoners should be executed are no better and they walk amongst us.
The people suggesting that these two prisoners should be executed are no better and they walk amongst us. Morpheus
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9:53am Thu 22 Nov 12

Orlando Faark says...

Morpheus wrote:
The people suggesting that these two prisoners should be executed are no better and they walk amongst us.
No point on asking an apologist to elaborate on a moronic statement - presumably just more sanctimonious waffle would follow.
It's actually people like you that perpetuate such perversions in society - whilst expecting everyone else to pay for them.
You enjoy telling victims and society to turn the other one - happily shirking off any personal responsibility for such a pompous stance. You want to support these scum so fervently? So, why not house them and pander to then when released on licence?

If only the smug and self-righteous were willing to cover the costs of there own absurd beliefs...based on a temperamental sky fairy. The rest of us could get on and support decency and fair play rather than pandering to the needs and rights of child-murderers.
[quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: The people suggesting that these two prisoners should be executed are no better and they walk amongst us.[/p][/quote]No point on asking an apologist to elaborate on a moronic statement - presumably just more sanctimonious waffle would follow. It's actually people like you that perpetuate such perversions in society - whilst expecting everyone else to pay for them. You enjoy telling victims and society to turn the other one - happily shirking off any personal responsibility for such a pompous stance. You want to support these scum so fervently? So, why not house them and pander to then when released on licence? If only the smug and self-righteous were willing to cover the costs of there own absurd beliefs...based on a temperamental sky fairy. The rest of us could get on and support decency and fair play rather than pandering to the needs and rights of child-murderers. Orlando Faark
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9:54am Thu 22 Nov 12

lillylou says...

I can think of a better place to have stuck it that scum deserves all the pain and torture that poor child sufferd at the hands of that filf peodo !!!
I can think of a better place to have stuck it that scum deserves all the pain and torture that poor child sufferd at the hands of that filf peodo !!! lillylou
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9:58am Thu 22 Nov 12

brighton-breezy says...

Morpheus wrote:
The people suggesting that these two prisoners should be executed are no better and they walk amongst us.
I am interested how you can justify society having to pay for these two Murderers, both have proven to the courts they should not be able to integrate with the public as they are dangerous, one a sex offender and child killer, and the other a violent man with two separate murders under his belt. there is no doubt that both these men were guilty of these crimes, we as society owe them nothing, and they should not be allowed to burden society anymore, I just hope you never loose a loved one to a violent unprovoked crime, maybe if you did, it may change you rose tinted view on human rights.
[quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: The people suggesting that these two prisoners should be executed are no better and they walk amongst us.[/p][/quote]I am interested how you can justify society having to pay for these two Murderers, both have proven to the courts they should not be able to integrate with the public as they are dangerous, one a sex offender and child killer, and the other a violent man with two separate murders under his belt. there is no doubt that both these men were guilty of these crimes, we as society owe them nothing, and they should not be allowed to burden society anymore, I just hope you never loose a loved one to a violent unprovoked crime, maybe if you did, it may change you rose tinted view on human rights. brighton-breezy
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10:25am Thu 22 Nov 12

mtmoocher says...

Orlando Faark wrote:
Morpheus wrote:
The people suggesting that these two prisoners should be executed are no better and they walk amongst us.
No point on asking an apologist to elaborate on a moronic statement - presumably just more sanctimonious waffle would follow.
It's actually people like you that perpetuate such perversions in society - whilst expecting everyone else to pay for them.
You enjoy telling victims and society to turn the other one - happily shirking off any personal responsibility for such a pompous stance. You want to support these scum so fervently? So, why not house them and pander to then when released on licence?

If only the smug and self-righteous were willing to cover the costs of there own absurd beliefs...based on a temperamental sky fairy. The rest of us could get on and support decency and fair play rather than pandering to the needs and rights of child-murderers.
Qrlando.
Is that the same temperamental sky fairy who stated "an eye for an eye...?"
[quote][p][bold]Orlando Faark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: The people suggesting that these two prisoners should be executed are no better and they walk amongst us.[/p][/quote]No point on asking an apologist to elaborate on a moronic statement - presumably just more sanctimonious waffle would follow. It's actually people like you that perpetuate such perversions in society - whilst expecting everyone else to pay for them. You enjoy telling victims and society to turn the other one - happily shirking off any personal responsibility for such a pompous stance. You want to support these scum so fervently? So, why not house them and pander to then when released on licence? If only the smug and self-righteous were willing to cover the costs of there own absurd beliefs...based on a temperamental sky fairy. The rest of us could get on and support decency and fair play rather than pandering to the needs and rights of child-murderers.[/p][/quote]Qrlando. Is that the same temperamental sky fairy who stated "an eye for an eye...?" mtmoocher
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10:52am Thu 22 Nov 12

tooned_in says...

Isnt it ironic that under this story I have a pop up advetising colgate toothbrushes hahahah anyone else get that????

Ps why execute Roy Whitting? surely having to stay in prison for the rest of his life in daily fear for his own safety is a perfect punishment, years of fear & panic then straight to hell....think the punishment just about fits the crime!!
Isnt it ironic that under this story I have a pop up advetising colgate toothbrushes hahahah anyone else get that???? Ps why execute Roy Whitting? surely having to stay in prison for the rest of his life in daily fear for his own safety is a perfect punishment, years of fear & panic then straight to hell....think the punishment just about fits the crime!! tooned_in
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11:08am Thu 22 Nov 12

theleftygiraffe says...

The purpose of prison is to segregate dangerous people away from the rest of society so they are not a threat. A well functioning society should be able to do this without worrying about how much it costs. The fact that we have people willing to commit such atrocities says something about our society, really.

Killing people who have killed is completely contradictory - how can a society say it is wrong to kill, then kill anyone who breaks such a law? Do we then kill those responsible for the execution and sink to the level of the murderers? Of course not, we act humanely and segregate them, not as a punishment but for the protection of others.

And to those who say a life in prison is too kind for them, I bet you wouldn't think prison was too kind if you faced a future behind bars.
The purpose of prison is to segregate dangerous people away from the rest of society so they are not a threat. A well functioning society should be able to do this without worrying about how much it costs. The fact that we have people willing to commit such atrocities says something about our society, really. Killing people who have killed is completely contradictory - how can a society say it is wrong to kill, then kill anyone who breaks such a law? Do we then kill those responsible for the execution and sink to the level of the murderers? Of course not, we act humanely and segregate them, not as a punishment but for the protection of others. And to those who say a life in prison is too kind for them, I bet you wouldn't think prison was too kind if you faced a future behind bars. theleftygiraffe
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11:38am Thu 22 Nov 12

Freeloaders says...

Lets be happy Roy Whitting got this.I for one feel very happy & just feel its a shame the guy could not do a better job.I don't care what people think about me for saying this because i just have to think about that beautiful little girl & what she must of sufferd because of that vile bit of scum.How people can care about something like this i will never know.The poor little girl did nothing wrong.
Lets be happy Roy Whitting got this.I for one feel very happy & just feel its a shame the guy could not do a better job.I don't care what people think about me for saying this because i just have to think about that beautiful little girl & what she must of sufferd because of that vile bit of scum.How people can care about something like this i will never know.The poor little girl did nothing wrong. Freeloaders
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1:19pm Thu 22 Nov 12

D360 says...

I cannot say I have much sympathy for Whitting after what he did.

What I find most objectionable about this story is that Vinter, having murdered two people and attempting to murder a third he is complaining to the European Courts that he is being denied one of his human rights by being imprisoned...
I cannot say I have much sympathy for Whitting after what he did. What I find most objectionable about this story is that Vinter, having murdered two people and attempting to murder a third he is complaining to the European Courts that he is being denied one of his human rights by being imprisoned... D360
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6:04pm Thu 22 Nov 12

puddingandpi says...

Roy Whiting, my heart *bleeds* for him...
Roy Whiting, my heart *bleeds* for him... puddingandpi
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8:53pm Thu 22 Nov 12

hubby says...

Let's hope it was really painful and that it happens many more times in many different ways.
Let's hope it was really painful and that it happens many more times in many different ways. hubby
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