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Shipping containers to help house homeless

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A city's homeless are to be put up in shipping containers in an audacious bid to ease the housing crisis.

Brighton Housing Trust (BHT) and the team behind the New England Quarter will soon submit a planning application to transform a city centre site into a homeless village with 36 flats, gardens and allotments.

Sussex-based developer QED has already bought the 36 shipping containers which have been converted into studio flats.

The proposal is for two blocks of homes, three and four storeys high, next to The Cobbler’s Thumb in New England Road, in a plot currently used as a car park.

QED and BHT are in talks with planners and hope to move people in as early as May next year.

BHT chief executive Andy Winter said: “It’s great to talk about a solution rather than the problem.”

If given the go-ahead by planners, the units will become homes for people while they search for a permanent place.

Mr Winter said: “It would be people who have lost their jobs or someone who is living in their car while holding down a job but doesn’t have housing.

“Given the desperate housing situation in Brighton and Hove, imaginative solutions are required.

“What really excites me about this opportunity is that land that might otherwise lie idle for five years will be brought back into life and used to provide much-needed temporary accommodation.

“When the site is redeveloped, the accommodation units can be transferred to other locations.”

Addressing problem

Chris Gilbert, QED director, said: “It’s not quite as easy as unloading a container from a lorry, but it’s a lot easier than building flats from scratch.

“We’re not intending to dress them up and pretend they’re not containers.

“I think it could be an exciting way of addressing, quickly, what’s a massive problem.”

The containers are commonly used as homes in Amsterdam, where they form student flats, accommodation for the Salvation Army and even a hotel.

The Brighton containers were originally converted for a social housing project in Holland in 2010, but the order to TempoHousing was cancelled amid funding problems.

The developers and BHT hope to get permission for the units for five years.

Councillor Phelim MacCafferty, deputy leader of the council, said: “This looks like an exciting and innovative proposal and we are aware of other developments which have successfully used containers as the building blocks of successful projects both in the UK and elsewhere in Europe.

“We do, of course, need to make sure that the accommodation on offer is of a decent standard and provides safe and warm living conditions.

“I’m looking forward to more details coming forward about how the containers might fit into the proposed site and what the development will look like.”

See The Argus tomorrow for the latest in our series of special reports on the city’s homeless crisis.

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1:45pm Thu 29 Nov 12

HJarrs says...

What a great idea. I have seen containers as shops at Shoredich and this makes a food temporary use of an undeveloped site, perhaps we should be looking at similar developments where land has been left idle for years.
What a great idea. I have seen containers as shops at Shoredich and this makes a food temporary use of an undeveloped site, perhaps we should be looking at similar developments where land has been left idle for years. HJarrs
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1:49pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Algeria Touchshriek says...

Work hard, lead a good life, never take drugs, wash and drink only socially but you do not earn quite enough money to get your own drum so you stay at home with your parents and put your name on the list......

Or.

Take drugs, never work, shout at buses, smell like piddle, beg on street corners like a ragged dog, take more drugs, drink Special Brew in parks, scare small children, take more drugs, don't wash, fight and beg some more and you will get your own place.

Says it all really.
Work hard, lead a good life, never take drugs, wash and drink only socially but you do not earn quite enough money to get your own drum so you stay at home with your parents and put your name on the list...... Or. Take drugs, never work, shout at buses, smell like piddle, beg on street corners like a ragged dog, take more drugs, drink Special Brew in parks, scare small children, take more drugs, don't wash, fight and beg some more and you will get your own place. Says it all really. Algeria Touchshriek
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1:51pm Thu 29 Nov 12

HJarrs says...

food = good
food = good HJarrs
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1:53pm Thu 29 Nov 12

HJarrs says...

Algeria Touchshriek wrote:
Work hard, lead a good life, never take drugs, wash and drink only socially but you do not earn quite enough money to get your own drum so you stay at home with your parents and put your name on the list...... Or. Take drugs, never work, shout at buses, smell like piddle, beg on street corners like a ragged dog, take more drugs, drink Special Brew in parks, scare small children, take more drugs, don't wash, fight and beg some more and you will get your own place. Says it all really.
I think you have been sussed as a windup merchant.
[quote][p][bold]Algeria Touchshriek[/bold] wrote: Work hard, lead a good life, never take drugs, wash and drink only socially but you do not earn quite enough money to get your own drum so you stay at home with your parents and put your name on the list...... Or. Take drugs, never work, shout at buses, smell like piddle, beg on street corners like a ragged dog, take more drugs, drink Special Brew in parks, scare small children, take more drugs, don't wash, fight and beg some more and you will get your own place. Says it all really.[/p][/quote]I think you have been sussed as a windup merchant. HJarrs
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2:14pm Thu 29 Nov 12

heartthrob says...

I think if they are as attractive as this then fine but why not have a mixed community of young workers etc rather than create a ghetto. im sure you could get more than 36 on that site especialy if you dont do the daft stuff like the allotment, particularly with tesco just around the corner
I think if they are as attractive as this then fine but why not have a mixed community of young workers etc rather than create a ghetto. im sure you could get more than 36 on that site especialy if you dont do the daft stuff like the allotment, particularly with tesco just around the corner heartthrob
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2:30pm Thu 29 Nov 12

westpiergone says...

Mr kitty-crap should be asked to inspect them,then locked inside & shipped off to la-la land where he belongs !
Mr kitty-crap should be asked to inspect them,then locked inside & shipped off to la-la land where he belongs ! westpiergone
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2:42pm Thu 29 Nov 12

stamponcockroaches says...

This is a scandalous disgrace. What next , buy an old warship and turn that into accommodation like the one they got off Mr Hoogstraten and turned into a prison. I know someone who did a bit of time in there and he said it was the worst prison he'd been in. Give it a few years and it'll make Portland Gate look like the Royal Pavilion.
This is a scandalous disgrace. What next , buy an old warship and turn that into accommodation like the one they got off Mr Hoogstraten and turned into a prison. I know someone who did a bit of time in there and he said it was the worst prison he'd been in. Give it a few years and it'll make Portland Gate look like the Royal Pavilion. stamponcockroaches
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2:43pm Thu 29 Nov 12

ruberducker says...

Algeria Touchshriek wrote:
Work hard, lead a good life, never take drugs, wash and drink only socially but you do not earn quite enough money to get your own drum so you stay at home with your parents and put your name on the list......

Or.

Take drugs, never work, shout at buses, smell like piddle, beg on street corners like a ragged dog, take more drugs, drink Special Brew in parks, scare small children, take more drugs, don't wash, fight and beg some more and you will get your own place.

Says it all really.
why not put them alongside the dyke next to to travellers,they allready have bins etc there.
[quote][p][bold]Algeria Touchshriek[/bold] wrote: Work hard, lead a good life, never take drugs, wash and drink only socially but you do not earn quite enough money to get your own drum so you stay at home with your parents and put your name on the list...... Or. Take drugs, never work, shout at buses, smell like piddle, beg on street corners like a ragged dog, take more drugs, drink Special Brew in parks, scare small children, take more drugs, don't wash, fight and beg some more and you will get your own place. Says it all really.[/p][/quote]why not put them alongside the dyke next to to travellers,they allready have bins etc there. ruberducker
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2:46pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Fed up with this says...

Cut out the crap. People need a roof over there heads, good idea go for it.
If you comment on this site you have a computer or other divice and have a home.
You lucky , lucky bas****s Quote from
Monty Python.
Cut out the crap. People need a roof over there heads, good idea go for it. If you comment on this site you have a computer or other divice and have a home. You lucky , lucky bas****s Quote from Monty Python. Fed up with this
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3:18pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Hove Actually says...

Fed up with this wrote:
Cut out the crap. People need a roof over there heads, good idea go for it.
If you comment on this site you have a computer or other divice and have a home.
You lucky , lucky bas****s Quote from
Monty Python.
Or you have a smart phone which you stole and are sitting in Starbucks using the free wifi.
[quote][p][bold]Fed up with this[/bold] wrote: Cut out the crap. People need a roof over there heads, good idea go for it. If you comment on this site you have a computer or other divice and have a home. You lucky , lucky bas****s Quote from Monty Python.[/p][/quote]Or you have a smart phone which you stole and are sitting in Starbucks using the free wifi. Hove Actually
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3:24pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Hove Actually says...

I take it this is on the land that the developer has failed to build on and now wants to stall the development again..

If this is such a good idea then why not find a permanent site for them on one of the brownfield sites that's not being used?
I take it this is on the land that the developer has failed to build on and now wants to stall the development again.. If this is such a good idea then why not find a permanent site for them on one of the brownfield sites that's not being used? Hove Actually
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3:50pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Sussex jim says...

Algeria Touchshriek seems the sort of chap who has worked his way up in life to where he can afford to spend the festive season away on the mediterranean. Good luck to him. He obviously earns enough money to pay taxes to subsidise the scum who drift into Brighton for the high life, expecting the streets to be paved with gold.
If you have not made it in a year or two, go back to your home town and sponge off your own tribe- not the hard working taxpayers of Brighton.
Algeria Touchshriek seems the sort of chap who has worked his way up in life to where he can afford to spend the festive season away on the mediterranean. Good luck to him. He obviously earns enough money to pay taxes to subsidise the scum who drift into Brighton for the high life, expecting the streets to be paved with gold. If you have not made it in a year or two, go back to your home town and sponge off your own tribe- not the hard working taxpayers of Brighton. Sussex jim
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4:01pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Ballroom Blitz says...

I welcome this initiative, with one proviso. These homes must be ONLY for people who come from Brighton. Otherwise the word will get around, and even more homeless from around the country will descend on 'soft touch' Brighton.
These dwelling must be kept for local people who have fallen down on their luck. No outsiders.
I welcome this initiative, with one proviso. These homes must be ONLY for people who come from Brighton. Otherwise the word will get around, and even more homeless from around the country will descend on 'soft touch' Brighton. These dwelling must be kept for local people who have fallen down on their luck. No outsiders. Ballroom Blitz
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4:28pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Struggler says...

I actually feel this is a rather good idea if it does look as decent as in the picture. I have seen them in germany also and they were very well done. As long as it is done properly,they are safe,insulated and have the basic requirements like water,toilet and other needed things then this should be actually a workable solution. But yes,I agree its not perfect but fine for the meantime while you are looking for something permanent. As long as people dont get dumped in there and forgotten and as long as there are a policy in place where no drugs,alcoholism or crime is allowed in there that will make it a nasty hellhole as it always happens. There are always nice intentions but then a few spoil the whole place and make it horrible. There would need to be some sort of rule for it as people will sign a statement saying they will refrain from these things or they will be asked to leave and yes only people from brighton as we have plenty of people looking for a place to stay.
I actually feel this is a rather good idea if it does look as decent as in the picture. I have seen them in germany also and they were very well done. As long as it is done properly,they are safe,insulated and have the basic requirements like water,toilet and other needed things then this should be actually a workable solution. But yes,I agree its not perfect but fine for the meantime while you are looking for something permanent. As long as people dont get dumped in there and forgotten and as long as there are a policy in place where no drugs,alcoholism or crime is allowed in there that will make it a nasty hellhole as it always happens. There are always nice intentions but then a few spoil the whole place and make it horrible. There would need to be some sort of rule for it as people will sign a statement saying they will refrain from these things or they will be asked to leave and yes only people from brighton as we have plenty of people looking for a place to stay. Struggler
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4:58pm Thu 29 Nov 12

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Sussex jim says...
3:50pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Algeria Touchshriek seems the sort of chap who has worked his way up in life to where he can afford to spend the festive season away on the mediterranean. Good luck to him. He obviously earns enough money to pay taxes to subsidise the scum who drift into Brighton for the high life, expecting the streets to be paved with gold.
If you have not made it in a year or two, go back to your home town and sponge off your own tribe- not the hard working taxpayers of Brighton.”

How we love to point the finger. I'm not a christian but Christ was a great ethical teacher and it was precisely this egotstical, self righteous attitude that he warned against.
Sussex jim says... 3:50pm Thu 29 Nov 12 Algeria Touchshriek seems the sort of chap who has worked his way up in life to where he can afford to spend the festive season away on the mediterranean. Good luck to him. He obviously earns enough money to pay taxes to subsidise the scum who drift into Brighton for the high life, expecting the streets to be paved with gold. If you have not made it in a year or two, go back to your home town and sponge off your own tribe- not the hard working taxpayers of Brighton.” How we love to point the finger. I'm not a christian but Christ was a great ethical teacher and it was precisely this egotstical, self righteous attitude that he warned against. B rian Tawses left foot
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5:24pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Mr.Logical1 says...

More homes. Good idea. And give someone the job of site manager/consierge to make sure it's all kept in shape
More homes. Good idea. And give someone the job of site manager/consierge to make sure it's all kept in shape Mr.Logical1
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6:03pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Juleyanne says...

Big pat on the back for the person/s who thought this idea up! A big move in the right direction well done! As for the inevitable 'negative doubters' - it appears from information given so far, that they will be given out to those who have 'hit the buffers' and just need a break to get themselves back on track. This is a positive starting point, although the miserable trolls will no doubt find fault in just about anything that might help those not as fortunate as themselves!
Big pat on the back for the person/s who thought this idea up! A big move in the right direction well done! As for the inevitable 'negative doubters' - it appears from information given so far, that they will be given out to those who have 'hit the buffers' and just need a break to get themselves back on track. This is a positive starting point, although the miserable trolls will no doubt find fault in just about anything that might help those not as fortunate as themselves! Juleyanne
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6:12pm Thu 29 Nov 12

fubsy says...

Hooray! After the Greens party's pro-drug stance and their open invitation to every traveler to come and live here at the rate-payers expense, they're now going to give the go ahead to have our very own shanty town.
I am mighty proud that i voted against this feckless bunch.
Hooray! After the Greens party's pro-drug stance and their open invitation to every traveler to come and live here at the rate-payers expense, they're now going to give the go ahead to have our very own shanty town. I am mighty proud that i voted against this feckless bunch. fubsy
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7:08pm Thu 29 Nov 12

AmboGuy says...

I wonder if the squatters will go for one, after all we keep being told that they are the 'most vulnerable in society' so they should be jumping at getting one of these.

Their list of excuses for squatting will soon be running out if we get these.
I wonder if the squatters will go for one, after all we keep being told that they are the 'most vulnerable in society' so they should be jumping at getting one of these. Their list of excuses for squatting will soon be running out if we get these. AmboGuy
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7:30pm Thu 29 Nov 12

HJarrs says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Sussex jim says...
3:50pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Algeria Touchshriek seems the sort of chap who has worked his way up in life to where he can afford to spend the festive season away on the mediterranean. Good luck to him. He obviously earns enough money to pay taxes to subsidise the scum who drift into Brighton for the high life, expecting the streets to be paved with gold.
If you have not made it in a year or two, go back to your home town and sponge off your own tribe- not the hard working taxpayers of Brighton.”

How we love to point the finger. I'm not a christian but Christ was a great ethical teacher and it was precisely this egotstical, self righteous attitude that he warned against.
Can you imagine some of the above when he fed the 5000; "Hungry? You from round here?"
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Sussex jim says... 3:50pm Thu 29 Nov 12 Algeria Touchshriek seems the sort of chap who has worked his way up in life to where he can afford to spend the festive season away on the mediterranean. Good luck to him. He obviously earns enough money to pay taxes to subsidise the scum who drift into Brighton for the high life, expecting the streets to be paved with gold. If you have not made it in a year or two, go back to your home town and sponge off your own tribe- not the hard working taxpayers of Brighton.” How we love to point the finger. I'm not a christian but Christ was a great ethical teacher and it was precisely this egotstical, self righteous attitude that he warned against.[/p][/quote]Can you imagine some of the above when he fed the 5000; "Hungry? You from round here?" HJarrs
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7:34pm Thu 29 Nov 12

martyt says...

stamponcockroaches wrote:
This is a scandalous disgrace. What next , buy an old warship and turn that into accommodation like the one they got off Mr Hoogstraten and turned into a prison. I know someone who did a bit of time in there and he said it was the worst prison he'd been in. Give it a few years and it'll make Portland Gate look like the Royal Pavilion.
and why should a prison be a nice place to do your time ,you know the quote ,if you cant do the time don t do the crime !
[quote][p][bold]stamponcockroaches[/bold] wrote: This is a scandalous disgrace. What next , buy an old warship and turn that into accommodation like the one they got off Mr Hoogstraten and turned into a prison. I know someone who did a bit of time in there and he said it was the worst prison he'd been in. Give it a few years and it'll make Portland Gate look like the Royal Pavilion.[/p][/quote]and why should a prison be a nice place to do your time ,you know the quote ,if you cant do the time don t do the crime ! martyt
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7:47pm Thu 29 Nov 12

martyt says...

HJarrs wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Sussex jim says...
3:50pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Algeria Touchshriek seems the sort of chap who has worked his way up in life to where he can afford to spend the festive season away on the mediterranean. Good luck to him. He obviously earns enough money to pay taxes to subsidise the scum who drift into Brighton for the high life, expecting the streets to be paved with gold.
If you have not made it in a year or two, go back to your home town and sponge off your own tribe- not the hard working taxpayers of Brighton.”

How we love to point the finger. I'm not a christian but Christ was a great ethical teacher and it was precisely this egotstical, self righteous attitude that he warned against.
Can you imagine some of the above when he fed the 5000; "Hungry? You from round here?"
no wonder there are so many inbreed chavs in Brighton ,this city like any city needs new blood lines to stop all this interbreeding in it s city ,is it any wonder why the country as a whole has so many illegal workers ,far too many locals don t want a job ,but they still want there shelf's stacked there buses driven there town cleaned and there oap s looked after at least the foreign workers are willing to work
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Sussex jim says... 3:50pm Thu 29 Nov 12 Algeria Touchshriek seems the sort of chap who has worked his way up in life to where he can afford to spend the festive season away on the mediterranean. Good luck to him. He obviously earns enough money to pay taxes to subsidise the scum who drift into Brighton for the high life, expecting the streets to be paved with gold. If you have not made it in a year or two, go back to your home town and sponge off your own tribe- not the hard working taxpayers of Brighton.” How we love to point the finger. I'm not a christian but Christ was a great ethical teacher and it was precisely this egotstical, self righteous attitude that he warned against.[/p][/quote]Can you imagine some of the above when he fed the 5000; "Hungry? You from round here?"[/p][/quote]no wonder there are so many inbreed chavs in Brighton ,this city like any city needs new blood lines to stop all this interbreeding in it s city ,is it any wonder why the country as a whole has so many illegal workers ,far too many locals don t want a job ,but they still want there shelf's stacked there buses driven there town cleaned and there oap s looked after at least the foreign workers are willing to work martyt
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7:49pm Thu 29 Nov 12

nocando says...

Its a brilliant idea, a short term solution for the armies of sofa surfers and car dwellers who go out to work but fall out of relationships and houseshares etc.
So long as they don't become a bolthole for those that refuse to help themselves as a lifestyle choice then these cabins would be a great parachute. spot on.
Its a brilliant idea, a short term solution for the armies of sofa surfers and car dwellers who go out to work but fall out of relationships and houseshares etc. So long as they don't become a bolthole for those that refuse to help themselves as a lifestyle choice then these cabins would be a great parachute. spot on. nocando
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7:59pm Thu 29 Nov 12

braigieben says...

Temporary? I am looking forward to seeing them leave :) Dale farm part 2 springs to mind!
Gotta love the way I get to spend £500 a month to a rich private landlord and in return I get to live in a damp tiny bedsit and the homless get a luxurious one for free! Cant they just die and stop asking me for change !! I dont even have money for myself why do they think I go to work ? To fund their love for special brew? Such a Brighton thing to do to look after the poor and charge them no rent and anyone else who has a low paid job (which is all their is in Brighton) and cannot afford to live here due to the London priced rent (i.e everyone else) gets to pay for their nice little pad! God I hate England, maybe we could pay for their home furnishings next from habitat!
Temporary? I am looking forward to seeing them leave :) Dale farm part 2 springs to mind! Gotta love the way I get to spend £500 a month to a rich private landlord and in return I get to live in a damp tiny bedsit and the homless get a luxurious one for free! Cant they just die and stop asking me for change !! I dont even have money for myself why do they think I go to work ? To fund their love for special brew? Such a Brighton thing to do to look after the poor and charge them no rent and anyone else who has a low paid job (which is all their is in Brighton) and cannot afford to live here due to the London priced rent (i.e everyone else) gets to pay for their nice little pad! God I hate England, maybe we could pay for their home furnishings next from habitat! braigieben
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8:03pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

HJarrs wrote:
food = good
HJarrs = T****r
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: food = good[/p][/quote]HJarrs = T****r Somethingsarejustwrong
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8:07pm Thu 29 Nov 12

george smith says...

Ballroom Blitz wrote:
I welcome this initiative, with one proviso. These homes must be ONLY for people who come from Brighton. Otherwise the word will get around, and even more homeless from around the country will descend on 'soft touch' Brighton. These dwelling must be kept for local people who have fallen down on their luck. No outsiders.
Totally agree, charity begins at home
[quote][p][bold]Ballroom Blitz[/bold] wrote: I welcome this initiative, with one proviso. These homes must be ONLY for people who come from Brighton. Otherwise the word will get around, and even more homeless from around the country will descend on 'soft touch' Brighton. These dwelling must be kept for local people who have fallen down on their luck. No outsiders.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, charity begins at home george smith
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8:09pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Juleyanne wrote:
Big pat on the back for the person/s who thought this idea up! A big move in the right direction well done! As for the inevitable 'negative doubters' - it appears from information given so far, that they will be given out to those who have 'hit the buffers' and just need a break to get themselves back on track. This is a positive starting point, although the miserable trolls will no doubt find fault in just about anything that might help those not as fortunate as themselves!
Best plan would be to get the containers ready and leave a trail of Special Brew cans to lure the miscreants in.

Then lock the doors and get the containers delivered to one of the huge container ships that are moored offshore unused due to capacity surpluses.

Leave them there for a couple of months and then repatriate them 'post cold turkey' to their town of birth.

Everyone's a winner!
[quote][p][bold]Juleyanne[/bold] wrote: Big pat on the back for the person/s who thought this idea up! A big move in the right direction well done! As for the inevitable 'negative doubters' - it appears from information given so far, that they will be given out to those who have 'hit the buffers' and just need a break to get themselves back on track. This is a positive starting point, although the miserable trolls will no doubt find fault in just about anything that might help those not as fortunate as themselves![/p][/quote]Best plan would be to get the containers ready and leave a trail of Special Brew cans to lure the miscreants in. Then lock the doors and get the containers delivered to one of the huge container ships that are moored offshore unused due to capacity surpluses. Leave them there for a couple of months and then repatriate them 'post cold turkey' to their town of birth. Everyone's a winner! Somethingsarejustwrong
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8:19pm Thu 29 Nov 12

AmboGuy says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Juleyanne wrote:
Big pat on the back for the person/s who thought this idea up! A big move in the right direction well done! As for the inevitable 'negative doubters' - it appears from information given so far, that they will be given out to those who have 'hit the buffers' and just need a break to get themselves back on track. This is a positive starting point, although the miserable trolls will no doubt find fault in just about anything that might help those not as fortunate as themselves!
Best plan would be to get the containers ready and leave a trail of Special Brew cans to lure the miscreants in.

Then lock the doors and get the containers delivered to one of the huge container ships that are moored offshore unused due to capacity surpluses.

Leave them there for a couple of months and then repatriate them 'post cold turkey' to their town of birth.

Everyone's a winner!
Hey not a bad idea, you're onto something there!
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Juleyanne[/bold] wrote: Big pat on the back for the person/s who thought this idea up! A big move in the right direction well done! As for the inevitable 'negative doubters' - it appears from information given so far, that they will be given out to those who have 'hit the buffers' and just need a break to get themselves back on track. This is a positive starting point, although the miserable trolls will no doubt find fault in just about anything that might help those not as fortunate as themselves![/p][/quote]Best plan would be to get the containers ready and leave a trail of Special Brew cans to lure the miscreants in. Then lock the doors and get the containers delivered to one of the huge container ships that are moored offshore unused due to capacity surpluses. Leave them there for a couple of months and then repatriate them 'post cold turkey' to their town of birth. Everyone's a winner![/p][/quote]Hey not a bad idea, you're onto something there! AmboGuy
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8:24pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Where is the common sence says...

Anyone else want to live opposite this? because if it does happen i will be and I'm not very happy about it, and pay £750pcm for the privilege. I think I'll be moving, i have no intention of raising a family opposite a slum.

I have no objections with helping people that have fallen on hard times, but no time for people who spend all their money on drink and drugs making a nuisance of themselves.

Those sorts of people need to make a choice society or getting off their face, if its option B don't expect me to pay for it or the warm environment to do it in, when i can barley afford to keep a roof over my own head
Anyone else want to live opposite this? because if it does happen i will be and I'm not very happy about it, and pay £750pcm for the privilege. I think I'll be moving, i have no intention of raising a family opposite a slum. I have no objections with helping people that have fallen on hard times, but no time for people who spend all their money on drink and drugs making a nuisance of themselves. Those sorts of people need to make a choice society or getting off their face, if its option B don't expect me to pay for it or the warm environment to do it in, when i can barley afford to keep a roof over my own head Where is the common sence
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8:26pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Broken Robot says...

braigieben wrote:
Temporary? I am looking forward to seeing them leave :) Dale farm part 2 springs to mind!
Gotta love the way I get to spend £500 a month to a rich private landlord and in return I get to live in a damp tiny bedsit and the homless get a luxurious one for free! Cant they just die and stop asking me for change !! I dont even have money for myself why do they think I go to work ? To fund their love for special brew? Such a Brighton thing to do to look after the poor and charge them no rent and anyone else who has a low paid job (which is all their is in Brighton) and cannot afford to live here due to the London priced rent (i.e everyone else) gets to pay for their nice little pad! God I hate England, maybe we could pay for their home furnishings next from habitat!
Maybe one day you will lose your job and no longer be able to pay for your tiny bedsit. Lets just hope that there's a spare container available for you in that scenario.
[quote][p][bold]braigieben[/bold] wrote: Temporary? I am looking forward to seeing them leave :) Dale farm part 2 springs to mind! Gotta love the way I get to spend £500 a month to a rich private landlord and in return I get to live in a damp tiny bedsit and the homless get a luxurious one for free! Cant they just die and stop asking me for change !! I dont even have money for myself why do they think I go to work ? To fund their love for special brew? Such a Brighton thing to do to look after the poor and charge them no rent and anyone else who has a low paid job (which is all their is in Brighton) and cannot afford to live here due to the London priced rent (i.e everyone else) gets to pay for their nice little pad! God I hate England, maybe we could pay for their home furnishings next from habitat![/p][/quote]Maybe one day you will lose your job and no longer be able to pay for your tiny bedsit. Lets just hope that there's a spare container available for you in that scenario. Broken Robot
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8:33pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Broken Robot wrote:
braigieben wrote:
Temporary? I am looking forward to seeing them leave :) Dale farm part 2 springs to mind!
Gotta love the way I get to spend £500 a month to a rich private landlord and in return I get to live in a damp tiny bedsit and the homless get a luxurious one for free! Cant they just die and stop asking me for change !! I dont even have money for myself why do they think I go to work ? To fund their love for special brew? Such a Brighton thing to do to look after the poor and charge them no rent and anyone else who has a low paid job (which is all their is in Brighton) and cannot afford to live here due to the London priced rent (i.e everyone else) gets to pay for their nice little pad! God I hate England, maybe we could pay for their home furnishings next from habitat!
Maybe one day you will lose your job and no longer be able to pay for your tiny bedsit. Lets just hope that there's a spare container available for you in that scenario.
They can come and live with you!
[quote][p][bold]Broken Robot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]braigieben[/bold] wrote: Temporary? I am looking forward to seeing them leave :) Dale farm part 2 springs to mind! Gotta love the way I get to spend £500 a month to a rich private landlord and in return I get to live in a damp tiny bedsit and the homless get a luxurious one for free! Cant they just die and stop asking me for change !! I dont even have money for myself why do they think I go to work ? To fund their love for special brew? Such a Brighton thing to do to look after the poor and charge them no rent and anyone else who has a low paid job (which is all their is in Brighton) and cannot afford to live here due to the London priced rent (i.e everyone else) gets to pay for their nice little pad! God I hate England, maybe we could pay for their home furnishings next from habitat![/p][/quote]Maybe one day you will lose your job and no longer be able to pay for your tiny bedsit. Lets just hope that there's a spare container available for you in that scenario.[/p][/quote]They can come and live with you! Somethingsarejustwrong
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8:44pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Council Pound says...

Now is our Winter of discontent (I wouldn't mind living in his house)!
Now is our Winter of discontent (I wouldn't mind living in his house)! Council Pound
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8:45pm Thu 29 Nov 12

AmboGuy says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Broken Robot wrote:
braigieben wrote:
Temporary? I am looking forward to seeing them leave :) Dale farm part 2 springs to mind!
Gotta love the way I get to spend £500 a month to a rich private landlord and in return I get to live in a damp tiny bedsit and the homless get a luxurious one for free! Cant they just die and stop asking me for change !! I dont even have money for myself why do they think I go to work ? To fund their love for special brew? Such a Brighton thing to do to look after the poor and charge them no rent and anyone else who has a low paid job (which is all their is in Brighton) and cannot afford to live here due to the London priced rent (i.e everyone else) gets to pay for their nice little pad! God I hate England, maybe we could pay for their home furnishings next from habitat!
Maybe one day you will lose your job and no longer be able to pay for your tiny bedsit. Lets just hope that there's a spare container available for you in that scenario.
They can come and live with you!
Agreed. You know what they say - charity begins at home so I'm sure Broken Robot will be more than happy for you to stay as long as you like.
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Broken Robot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]braigieben[/bold] wrote: Temporary? I am looking forward to seeing them leave :) Dale farm part 2 springs to mind! Gotta love the way I get to spend £500 a month to a rich private landlord and in return I get to live in a damp tiny bedsit and the homless get a luxurious one for free! Cant they just die and stop asking me for change !! I dont even have money for myself why do they think I go to work ? To fund their love for special brew? Such a Brighton thing to do to look after the poor and charge them no rent and anyone else who has a low paid job (which is all their is in Brighton) and cannot afford to live here due to the London priced rent (i.e everyone else) gets to pay for their nice little pad! God I hate England, maybe we could pay for their home furnishings next from habitat![/p][/quote]Maybe one day you will lose your job and no longer be able to pay for your tiny bedsit. Lets just hope that there's a spare container available for you in that scenario.[/p][/quote]They can come and live with you![/p][/quote]Agreed. You know what they say - charity begins at home so I'm sure Broken Robot will be more than happy for you to stay as long as you like. AmboGuy
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9:23pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Algeria Touchshriek says...

I wonder if girls will be put in pink ones and boys blue? Or if they will be referred to as Mr and Miss?

All the time people are filled with hate like Juleyanne above, Brighton will remain soaked with homeless, drug-addled filth.
I wonder if girls will be put in pink ones and boys blue? Or if they will be referred to as Mr and Miss? All the time people are filled with hate like Juleyanne above, Brighton will remain soaked with homeless, drug-addled filth. Algeria Touchshriek
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9:38pm Thu 29 Nov 12

braigieben says...

We are third world pork boat , welcome to the EU what a great idea that was to join that! :)
Maybe we could start food swaps with ethiopia
We are third world pork boat , welcome to the EU what a great idea that was to join that! :) Maybe we could start food swaps with ethiopia braigieben
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9:42pm Thu 29 Nov 12

braigieben says...

We are third world pork boat , welcome to the EU what a great idea that was to join that! :)
Maybe we could start food swaps with ethiopia

BROKEN ROBOT..I sincerely hope so , it means Ill get a whole heap of benefits and more than Im on now! Or if not ill just be happy in the summer like Brightons homeless are and kill myself in the winter (or find a thick wooley jumper) either way im a winner
We are third world pork boat , welcome to the EU what a great idea that was to join that! :) Maybe we could start food swaps with ethiopia BROKEN ROBOT..I sincerely hope so , it means Ill get a whole heap of benefits and more than Im on now! Or if not ill just be happy in the summer like Brightons homeless are and kill myself in the winter (or find a thick wooley jumper) either way im a winner braigieben
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11:33pm Thu 29 Nov 12

onerob says...

To the self-righteous homeless haters: Your lives aren't as secure as you think...
To the self-righteous homeless haters: Your lives aren't as secure as you think... onerob
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12:16am Fri 30 Nov 12

Corn Hill says...

If there are 50k homeless families & 700k empty homes in the country, why do we need to make people live in crates?
If there are 50k homeless families & 700k empty homes in the country, why do we need to make people live in crates? Corn Hill
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5:36am Fri 30 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Corn Hill wrote:
If there are 50k homeless families & 700k empty homes in the country, why do we need to make people live in crates?
You are so right.

People have options and they could of course earn and use funds to secure such a property.

The Special Brew drinkers - passed a few yesterday at circa 7am merrily drinking someones money away - could stop drinking, get work and secure such a property.

Everyone has a winning lottery ticket, the question remains whether to cash it, or p**s it up against the wall.
[quote][p][bold]Corn Hill[/bold] wrote: If there are 50k homeless families & 700k empty homes in the country, why do we need to make people live in crates?[/p][/quote]You are so right. People have options and they could of course earn and use funds to secure such a property. The Special Brew drinkers - passed a few yesterday at circa 7am merrily drinking someones money away - could stop drinking, get work and secure such a property. Everyone has a winning lottery ticket, the question remains whether to cash it, or p**s it up against the wall. Somethingsarejustwrong
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9:41am Fri 30 Nov 12

lillylou says...

Is it true that this has cost 1 million ? If it is that's a disgrace for 33 metal boxes they could of built proper homes what next people living in wheelie bins !alot of these homeless are not from btn so why arnt they sent back up north there's no room for the whole of the world to keep moving here !
Is it true that this has cost 1 million ? If it is that's a disgrace for 33 metal boxes they could of built proper homes what next people living in wheelie bins !alot of these homeless are not from btn so why arnt they sent back up north there's no room for the whole of the world to keep moving here ! lillylou
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11:45am Fri 30 Nov 12

nosolution says...

lillylou wrote:
Is it true that this has cost 1 million ? If it is that's a disgrace for 33 metal boxes they could of built proper homes what next people living in wheelie bins !alot of these homeless are not from btn so why arnt they sent back up north there's no room for the whole of the world to keep moving here !
That`s £28,000 each which is a ridiculous sum.Brand new static caravans can be less than £10,000 with second-hand ones a fraction of this but then they can`t be stacked up on one another and shoehorned into a town-centre location like some sort of human/hamster hybrid housing solution.I wonder what the profit to the provider is as second-hand containers can be bought for less than a grand and 27K for a bit of insulation,a sink and toilet seems very steep to me.Just a thought..
[quote][p][bold]lillylou[/bold] wrote: Is it true that this has cost 1 million ? If it is that's a disgrace for 33 metal boxes they could of built proper homes what next people living in wheelie bins !alot of these homeless are not from btn so why arnt they sent back up north there's no room for the whole of the world to keep moving here ![/p][/quote]That`s £28,000 each which is a ridiculous sum.Brand new static caravans can be less than £10,000 with second-hand ones a fraction of this but then they can`t be stacked up on one another and shoehorned into a town-centre location like some sort of human/hamster hybrid housing solution.I wonder what the profit to the provider is as second-hand containers can be bought for less than a grand and 27K for a bit of insulation,a sink and toilet seems very steep to me.Just a thought.. nosolution
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11:59am Fri 30 Nov 12

Smartbloke says...

It's quite shameful that Brighton has so many homeless. But it's even more shameful that there are so many on the rabid Argus Comments Section who dismiss them and laugh at them.

Of course, if this kind of misfortune happened to them, I'm sure society would be within its rights to laugh at them too.
It's quite shameful that Brighton has so many homeless. But it's even more shameful that there are so many on the rabid Argus Comments Section who dismiss them and laugh at them. Of course, if this kind of misfortune happened to them, I'm sure society would be within its rights to laugh at them too. Smartbloke
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1:45pm Fri 30 Nov 12

AmboGuy says...

Smartbloke wrote:
It's quite shameful that Brighton has so many homeless. But it's even more shameful that there are so many on the rabid Argus Comments Section who dismiss them and laugh at them.

Of course, if this kind of misfortune happened to them, I'm sure society would be within its rights to laugh at them too.
Yaaaaaaaaawn.
[quote][p][bold]Smartbloke[/bold] wrote: It's quite shameful that Brighton has so many homeless. But it's even more shameful that there are so many on the rabid Argus Comments Section who dismiss them and laugh at them. Of course, if this kind of misfortune happened to them, I'm sure society would be within its rights to laugh at them too.[/p][/quote]Yaaaaaaaaawn. AmboGuy
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3:17pm Fri 30 Nov 12

PorkBoat says...

braigieben wrote:
We are third world pork boat , welcome to the EU what a great idea that was to join that! :)
Maybe we could start food swaps with ethiopia
Apparently my comment upset some people and the Argus sent me a warning.
[quote][p][bold]braigieben[/bold] wrote: We are third world pork boat , welcome to the EU what a great idea that was to join that! :) Maybe we could start food swaps with ethiopia[/p][/quote]Apparently my comment upset some people and the Argus sent me a warning. PorkBoat
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4:08pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Zeta Function says...

How much the rent on these units? What relationship to market rents? Will council tax be charged?

Since the demand for accommodation in the city is far greater than the supply
how will the housing trust decide who is eligible? Will applicants bid along with others on the housing waiting list?

Will applicants on the housing waiting list be allowed to apply? If the allocation looks dodgy is there a formal complaint process, backed up by statutory housing regulations?
How much the rent on these units? What relationship to market rents? Will council tax be charged? Since the demand for accommodation in the city is far greater than the supply how will the housing trust decide who is eligible? Will applicants bid along with others on the housing waiting list? Will applicants on the housing waiting list be allowed to apply? If the allocation looks dodgy is there a formal complaint process, backed up by statutory housing regulations? Zeta Function
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5:16pm Fri 30 Nov 12

rolivan says...

There was an article on this site a few months ago regarding the Homeless problem and I made a suggestion that containers could be used for accomodation but at Horsedean.Surely the middle of Brighton isn't the best option.I have also seen old railway carriages used,if 3 are put together to form a letter H they make a better combination of sleeping and living requirements.
There was an article on this site a few months ago regarding the Homeless problem and I made a suggestion that containers could be used for accomodation but at Horsedean.Surely the middle of Brighton isn't the best option.I have also seen old railway carriages used,if 3 are put together to form a letter H they make a better combination of sleeping and living requirements. rolivan
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6:18pm Fri 30 Nov 12

thevoiceoftruth says...

So many trolls on this thread! Clearly in your rabid frenzy to comment, you forgot to read the story. It clearly states that these homes will be for people who have lost their jobs and become homeless due to that and also to those who are trying to hold down a job but are living in inadequate accomodation. Exactly the sort of people we should be helping. Nowhere does it state that these containers will be given to street drinkers. I think it's a brilliant idea.
So many trolls on this thread! Clearly in your rabid frenzy to comment, you forgot to read the story. It clearly states that these homes will be for people who have lost their jobs and become homeless due to that and also to those who are trying to hold down a job but are living in inadequate accomodation. Exactly the sort of people we should be helping. Nowhere does it state that these containers will be given to street drinkers. I think it's a brilliant idea. thevoiceoftruth
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7:22pm Fri 30 Nov 12

gusset snatcher says...

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here is a petition for voting no confidence in the green admin in brighton http://present.brigh ton-hove.gov.uk/mgeP etitionListDisplay.a spx?bcr=1 gusset snatcher
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7:23pm Fri 30 Nov 12

braigieben says...

Thats the point One rob! Most of us live hand to mouth and yet we have to go to work and scrape by to pay high rents while homeless people sit in parks and get **** and now cornhill is saying better to squat and pay no rent ? Seems to be one rule for them and another for us. What would you suggest to kids which road to take? If you can get my landlord to scrap my rent then sure Im for squatting ! But until then stop helping them even charities say so , sure there is the odd genuine case who have no family or friends they can ask for help but its definitely a minority
Thats the point One rob! Most of us live hand to mouth and yet we have to go to work and scrape by to pay high rents while homeless people sit in parks and get **** and now cornhill is saying better to squat and pay no rent ? Seems to be one rule for them and another for us. What would you suggest to kids which road to take? If you can get my landlord to scrap my rent then sure Im for squatting ! But until then stop helping them even charities say so , sure there is the odd genuine case who have no family or friends they can ask for help but its definitely a minority braigieben
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7:55pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Corn Hill says...

braigieben wrote:
Thats the point One rob! Most of us live hand to mouth and yet we have to go to work and scrape by to pay high rents while homeless people sit in parks and get **** and now cornhill is saying better to squat and pay no rent ? Seems to be one rule for them and another for us. What would you suggest to kids which road to take? If you can get my landlord to scrap my rent then sure Im for squatting ! But until then stop helping them even charities say so , sure there is the odd genuine case who have no family or friends they can ask for help but its definitely a minority
I've just re-read my post & I cant see were I said anything about squatting.
Where did you get that from?
[quote][p][bold]braigieben[/bold] wrote: Thats the point One rob! Most of us live hand to mouth and yet we have to go to work and scrape by to pay high rents while homeless people sit in parks and get **** and now cornhill is saying better to squat and pay no rent ? Seems to be one rule for them and another for us. What would you suggest to kids which road to take? If you can get my landlord to scrap my rent then sure Im for squatting ! But until then stop helping them even charities say so , sure there is the odd genuine case who have no family or friends they can ask for help but its definitely a minority[/p][/quote]I've just re-read my post & I cant see were I said anything about squatting. Where did you get that from? Corn Hill
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8:45pm Fri 30 Nov 12

onerob says...

Yes, there's a range of different types of people and different types of situation involved in homelessness. That will include some who just don't want anything much that is offered to them, but they're probably not going to be the ones using this accommodation.

I'm objecting to the stereotyping of the homeless as nothing but irresponsible scroungers and drinkers. Any of us could be caught in a downward spiral and then find ourselves giving up, and caving into the addictive impulses that lie in all of us.
Yes, there's a range of different types of people and different types of situation involved in homelessness. That will include some who just don't want anything much that is offered to them, but they're probably not going to be the ones using this accommodation. I'm objecting to the stereotyping of the homeless as nothing but irresponsible scroungers and drinkers. Any of us could be caught in a downward spiral and then find ourselves giving up, and caving into the addictive impulses that lie in all of us. onerob
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9:37pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

onerob wrote:
Yes, there's a range of different types of people and different types of situation involved in homelessness. That will include some who just don't want anything much that is offered to them, but they're probably not going to be the ones using this accommodation.

I'm objecting to the stereotyping of the homeless as nothing but irresponsible scroungers and drinkers. Any of us could be caught in a downward spiral and then find ourselves giving up, and caving into the addictive impulses that lie in all of us.
Yes that's right, we all have experiences, options and choices and when we make the latter there are inevitable consequences - good and or bad.

Lets get these drunken, drug using miscreants off the streets soonest.

Ps;- just checked my midweek lottery ticket, which didn't win, so drowning my sorrows with a splendid bottle of Penfolds, RWT - 1998 vintage. Not quite as complex or interesting as the Grange, but nevertheless a **** good drop.

Happy days
[quote][p][bold]onerob[/bold] wrote: Yes, there's a range of different types of people and different types of situation involved in homelessness. That will include some who just don't want anything much that is offered to them, but they're probably not going to be the ones using this accommodation. I'm objecting to the stereotyping of the homeless as nothing but irresponsible scroungers and drinkers. Any of us could be caught in a downward spiral and then find ourselves giving up, and caving into the addictive impulses that lie in all of us.[/p][/quote]Yes that's right, we all have experiences, options and choices and when we make the latter there are inevitable consequences - good and or bad. Lets get these drunken, drug using miscreants off the streets soonest. Ps;- just checked my midweek lottery ticket, which didn't win, so drowning my sorrows with a splendid bottle of Penfolds, RWT - 1998 vintage. Not quite as complex or interesting as the Grange, but nevertheless a **** good drop. Happy days Somethingsarejustwrong
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10:42pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Corn Hill says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
onerob wrote:
Yes, there's a range of different types of people and different types of situation involved in homelessness. That will include some who just don't want anything much that is offered to them, but they're probably not going to be the ones using this accommodation.

I'm objecting to the stereotyping of the homeless as nothing but irresponsible scroungers and drinkers. Any of us could be caught in a downward spiral and then find ourselves giving up, and caving into the addictive impulses that lie in all of us.
Yes that's right, we all have experiences, options and choices and when we make the latter there are inevitable consequences - good and or bad.

Lets get these drunken, drug using miscreants off the streets soonest.

Ps;- just checked my midweek lottery ticket, which didn't win, so drowning my sorrows with a splendid bottle of Penfolds, RWT - 1998 vintage. Not quite as complex or interesting as the Grange, but nevertheless a **** good drop.

Happy days
Somethingsarejustwro
ng, you seem to know a lot on this subject.
Can I ask you if you know the approx percentage of homeless who are ex-forces?
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onerob[/bold] wrote: Yes, there's a range of different types of people and different types of situation involved in homelessness. That will include some who just don't want anything much that is offered to them, but they're probably not going to be the ones using this accommodation. I'm objecting to the stereotyping of the homeless as nothing but irresponsible scroungers and drinkers. Any of us could be caught in a downward spiral and then find ourselves giving up, and caving into the addictive impulses that lie in all of us.[/p][/quote]Yes that's right, we all have experiences, options and choices and when we make the latter there are inevitable consequences - good and or bad. Lets get these drunken, drug using miscreants off the streets soonest. Ps;- just checked my midweek lottery ticket, which didn't win, so drowning my sorrows with a splendid bottle of Penfolds, RWT - 1998 vintage. Not quite as complex or interesting as the Grange, but nevertheless a **** good drop. Happy days[/p][/quote]Somethingsarejustwro ng, you seem to know a lot on this subject. Can I ask you if you know the approx percentage of homeless who are ex-forces? Corn Hill
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10:49pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Corn Hill wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
onerob wrote:
Yes, there's a range of different types of people and different types of situation involved in homelessness. That will include some who just don't want anything much that is offered to them, but they're probably not going to be the ones using this accommodation.

I'm objecting to the stereotyping of the homeless as nothing but irresponsible scroungers and drinkers. Any of us could be caught in a downward spiral and then find ourselves giving up, and caving into the addictive impulses that lie in all of us.
Yes that's right, we all have experiences, options and choices and when we make the latter there are inevitable consequences - good and or bad.

Lets get these drunken, drug using miscreants off the streets soonest.

Ps;- just checked my midweek lottery ticket, which didn't win, so drowning my sorrows with a splendid bottle of Penfolds, RWT - 1998 vintage. Not quite as complex or interesting as the Grange, but nevertheless a **** good drop.

Happy days
Somethingsarejustwro

ng, you seem to know a lot on this subject.
Can I ask you if you know the approx percentage of homeless who are ex-forces?
Of course you can
[quote][p][bold]Corn Hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onerob[/bold] wrote: Yes, there's a range of different types of people and different types of situation involved in homelessness. That will include some who just don't want anything much that is offered to them, but they're probably not going to be the ones using this accommodation. I'm objecting to the stereotyping of the homeless as nothing but irresponsible scroungers and drinkers. Any of us could be caught in a downward spiral and then find ourselves giving up, and caving into the addictive impulses that lie in all of us.[/p][/quote]Yes that's right, we all have experiences, options and choices and when we make the latter there are inevitable consequences - good and or bad. Lets get these drunken, drug using miscreants off the streets soonest. Ps;- just checked my midweek lottery ticket, which didn't win, so drowning my sorrows with a splendid bottle of Penfolds, RWT - 1998 vintage. Not quite as complex or interesting as the Grange, but nevertheless a **** good drop. Happy days[/p][/quote]Somethingsarejustwro ng, you seem to know a lot on this subject. Can I ask you if you know the approx percentage of homeless who are ex-forces?[/p][/quote]Of course you can Somethingsarejustwrong
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11:26pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Zeta Function says...

Who's going to get housed, or ship contained, and will it be before those on the housing waiting list?

Maybe the residents can be shipped out if they're a nuisance.
Who's going to get housed, or ship contained, and will it be before those on the housing waiting list? Maybe the residents can be shipped out if they're a nuisance. Zeta Function
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12:15am Sat 1 Dec 12

All 9 of me says...

bladesboy , a leopard can't change its spots .....
bladesboy , a leopard can't change its spots ..... All 9 of me
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8:01am Sat 1 Dec 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

All 9 of me wrote:
bladesboy , a leopard can't change its spots .....
What a strange comment, how does it align to this story?

Some people should cease posting, or be barred by the site moderator!
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: bladesboy , a leopard can't change its spots .....[/p][/quote]What a strange comment, how does it align to this story? Some people should cease posting, or be barred by the site moderator! Somethingsarejustwrong
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9:10am Sat 1 Dec 12

Juleyanne says...

Algeria I think you are confusing hate with compassion, poor dear! I care about the plight of the vulnerable. You however,
consistently display intolerance and frequently make horrible stereotyping comments. It is not very clever to try and paint everyone who finds themselves without a roof as 'all' drug addled filth, drunks and smelling of urine. No-one is denying there are many who may fit into this description but it seems to be beyond your comprehension that in this economic downturn, we are now seeing a worrying number of people who
have never found themselves homeless before, are not drug addled filth, drunks or the latter, but shock horror, people who you once worked alongside, respected and possibly even liked who
just had the misfortune to hit a set of bad circumstances. These people at least,should be spared the wrath of your intolerence!
Algeria I think you are confusing hate with compassion, poor dear! I care about the plight of the vulnerable. You however, consistently display intolerance and frequently make horrible stereotyping comments. It is not very clever to try and paint everyone who finds themselves without a roof as 'all' drug addled filth, drunks and smelling of urine. No-one is denying there are many who may fit into this description but it seems to be beyond your comprehension that in this economic downturn, we are now seeing a worrying number of people who have never found themselves homeless before, are not drug addled filth, drunks or the latter, but shock horror, people who you once worked alongside, respected and possibly even liked who just had the misfortune to hit a set of bad circumstances. These people at least,should be spared the wrath of your intolerence! Juleyanne
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10:04am Sat 1 Dec 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Juleyanne wrote:
Algeria I think you are confusing hate with compassion, poor dear! I care about the plight of the vulnerable. You however,
consistently display intolerance and frequently make horrible stereotyping comments. It is not very clever to try and paint everyone who finds themselves without a roof as 'all' drug addled filth, drunks and smelling of urine. No-one is denying there are many who may fit into this description but it seems to be beyond your comprehension that in this economic downturn, we are now seeing a worrying number of people who
have never found themselves homeless before, are not drug addled filth, drunks or the latter, but shock horror, people who you once worked alongside, respected and possibly even liked who
just had the misfortune to hit a set of bad circumstances. These people at least,should be spared the wrath of your intolerence!
Possibly the first time I have found myself thinking that I partially agree with at least part of a quote from this misguided do-gooder.

Algeria, she has a point, there are possibly a couple of people somewhere in the UK who don't fully fit your descriptor. Perhaps those 2 could move into Juleyanne's home for waifs and strays. Watch out for the dog though!
[quote][p][bold]Juleyanne[/bold] wrote: Algeria I think you are confusing hate with compassion, poor dear! I care about the plight of the vulnerable. You however, consistently display intolerance and frequently make horrible stereotyping comments. It is not very clever to try and paint everyone who finds themselves without a roof as 'all' drug addled filth, drunks and smelling of urine. No-one is denying there are many who may fit into this description but it seems to be beyond your comprehension that in this economic downturn, we are now seeing a worrying number of people who have never found themselves homeless before, are not drug addled filth, drunks or the latter, but shock horror, people who you once worked alongside, respected and possibly even liked who just had the misfortune to hit a set of bad circumstances. These people at least,should be spared the wrath of your intolerence![/p][/quote]Possibly the first time I have found myself thinking that I partially agree with at least part of a quote from this misguided do-gooder. Algeria, she has a point, there are possibly a couple of people somewhere in the UK who don't fully fit your descriptor. Perhaps those 2 could move into Juleyanne's home for waifs and strays. Watch out for the dog though! Somethingsarejustwrong
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12:48pm Sat 1 Dec 12

shining star says...

How very, very sad that we have so many small minded, nasty people among us. How narrow minded to believe that all homeless people are scum. Walking around Brighton, it is so sad to see so many people sleeping in doorways and alleys. Regardless of the reasons that takes people to that state, how sad. When you miserable, nasty minded self righteous bigots return to your rooms or homes, on a freezing cold day or night, then you turn on your heating or tuck into a bed, use your own loo, make yourself a cup of tea etc, just for one narrow minded,selfish moment,give a thought and imagine what it must be like to be out there trying to keep warm. Do this just as you are about to drop off to sleep and can hear the rain and wind. Whatever reason somebody is sleeping in a doorway, if you cannot feel any compassion or empathy then shame on you ! Lets hope this does not happen to you or any of your children or family.
How very, very sad that we have so many small minded, nasty people among us. How narrow minded to believe that all homeless people are scum. Walking around Brighton, it is so sad to see so many people sleeping in doorways and alleys. Regardless of the reasons that takes people to that state, how sad. When you miserable, nasty minded self righteous bigots return to your rooms or homes, on a freezing cold day or night, then you turn on your heating or tuck into a bed, use your own loo, make yourself a cup of tea etc, just for one narrow minded,selfish moment,give a thought and imagine what it must be like to be out there trying to keep warm. Do this just as you are about to drop off to sleep and can hear the rain and wind. Whatever reason somebody is sleeping in a doorway, if you cannot feel any compassion or empathy then shame on you ! Lets hope this does not happen to you or any of your children or family. shining star
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7:33pm Sat 1 Dec 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

shining star wrote:
How very, very sad that we have so many small minded, nasty people among us. How narrow minded to believe that all homeless people are scum. Walking around Brighton, it is so sad to see so many people sleeping in doorways and alleys. Regardless of the reasons that takes people to that state, how sad. When you miserable, nasty minded self righteous bigots return to your rooms or homes, on a freezing cold day or night, then you turn on your heating or tuck into a bed, use your own loo, make yourself a cup of tea etc, just for one narrow minded,selfish moment,give a thought and imagine what it must be like to be out there trying to keep warm. Do this just as you are about to drop off to sleep and can hear the rain and wind. Whatever reason somebody is sleeping in a doorway, if you cannot feel any compassion or empathy then shame on you ! Lets hope this does not happen to you or any of your children or family.
Oh stop it, I am rolling around on the floor laughing so loud that my ribs are sore.
[quote][p][bold]shining star[/bold] wrote: How very, very sad that we have so many small minded, nasty people among us. How narrow minded to believe that all homeless people are scum. Walking around Brighton, it is so sad to see so many people sleeping in doorways and alleys. Regardless of the reasons that takes people to that state, how sad. When you miserable, nasty minded self righteous bigots return to your rooms or homes, on a freezing cold day or night, then you turn on your heating or tuck into a bed, use your own loo, make yourself a cup of tea etc, just for one narrow minded,selfish moment,give a thought and imagine what it must be like to be out there trying to keep warm. Do this just as you are about to drop off to sleep and can hear the rain and wind. Whatever reason somebody is sleeping in a doorway, if you cannot feel any compassion or empathy then shame on you ! Lets hope this does not happen to you or any of your children or family.[/p][/quote]Oh stop it, I am rolling around on the floor laughing so loud that my ribs are sore. Somethingsarejustwrong
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8:56pm Sat 1 Dec 12

shining star says...

well Somethingsarejustwro
ng you say more about yourself than I could ever put into words! Good luck to you.
well Somethingsarejustwro ng you say more about yourself than I could ever put into words! Good luck to you. shining star
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9:46pm Sat 1 Dec 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

shining star wrote:
well Somethingsarejustwro

ng you say more about yourself than I could ever put into words! Good luck to you.
Still laughing.

After an excellent dinner in Brighton with good friends, we are travelling back to friends home and are debating how these nasty people are potentially ruining the town.

Our conclusion is that people like you are the real problem.
[quote][p][bold]shining star[/bold] wrote: well Somethingsarejustwro ng you say more about yourself than I could ever put into words! Good luck to you.[/p][/quote]Still laughing. After an excellent dinner in Brighton with good friends, we are travelling back to friends home and are debating how these nasty people are potentially ruining the town. Our conclusion is that people like you are the real problem. Somethingsarejustwrong
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9:51pm Sat 1 Dec 12

shining star says...

problem to what ?
problem to what ? shining star
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10:10pm Sat 1 Dec 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

shining star wrote:
problem to what ?
Supporting and defending things that are fundamentally wrong! Nearly back so going off air now,
[quote][p][bold]shining star[/bold] wrote: problem to what ?[/p][/quote]Supporting and defending things that are fundamentally wrong! Nearly back so going off air now, Somethingsarejustwrong
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10:12pm Sat 1 Dec 12

shining star says...

good riddance to utter Morons. !
good riddance to utter Morons. ! shining star
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10:35pm Sat 1 Dec 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

shining star wrote:
good riddance to utter Morons. !
Have you gone?
[quote][p][bold]shining star[/bold] wrote: good riddance to utter Morons. ![/p][/quote]Have you gone? Somethingsarejustwrong
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1:24pm Sun 2 Dec 12

All 9 of me says...

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
All 9 of me wrote:
bladesboy , a leopard can't change its spots .....
What a strange comment, how does it align to this story?

Some people should cease posting, or be barred by the site moderator!
well it aligns, because here you are, using your keywords to troll and harass others in the only way you know how, instead of bringing some depth to your posts. I know if I was 'drinking good wine with friends', the last thing I would do is log in from my bedsit to see if people have nothing better to do at 10-30 at night and every 45 minutes prior to that. Get a life .
[quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: bladesboy , a leopard can't change its spots .....[/p][/quote]What a strange comment, how does it align to this story? Some people should cease posting, or be barred by the site moderator![/p][/quote]well it aligns, because here you are, using your keywords to troll and harass others in the only way you know how, instead of bringing some depth to your posts. I know if I was 'drinking good wine with friends', the last thing I would do is log in from my bedsit to see if people have nothing better to do at 10-30 at night and every 45 minutes prior to that. Get a life . All 9 of me
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6:41pm Sun 2 Dec 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

All 9 of me wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
All 9 of me wrote:
bladesboy , a leopard can't change its spots .....
What a strange comment, how does it align to this story?

Some people should cease posting, or be barred by the site moderator!
well it aligns, because here you are, using your keywords to troll and harass others in the only way you know how, instead of bringing some depth to your posts. I know if I was 'drinking good wine with friends', the last thing I would do is log in from my bedsit to see if people have nothing better to do at 10-30 at night and every 45 minutes prior to that. Get a life .
Oh how wrong you are. The detail is immaterial although the themes you raise are very real for many people; seemingly you.
[quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Somethingsarejustwro ng[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]All 9 of me[/bold] wrote: bladesboy , a leopard can't change its spots .....[/p][/quote]What a strange comment, how does it align to this story? Some people should cease posting, or be barred by the site moderator![/p][/quote]well it aligns, because here you are, using your keywords to troll and harass others in the only way you know how, instead of bringing some depth to your posts. I know if I was 'drinking good wine with friends', the last thing I would do is log in from my bedsit to see if people have nothing better to do at 10-30 at night and every 45 minutes prior to that. Get a life .[/p][/quote]Oh how wrong you are. The detail is immaterial although the themes you raise are very real for many people; seemingly you. Somethingsarejustwrong
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8:21pm Sun 2 Dec 12

shining star says...

Yes and me, what a sad sad waste of human cells and tissue. Clear to all that you have nothing better to do with your life than irritate and insult others. I have to laugh at your so called 'intelligent comments' you will respond to this again I'm sure, with some banal triviality. If this gives you a thrill or stimulates your brain cell into action enough to put your nasty little fingers on your keyboard, please do, then go back to staring at your face in the mirror, you clearly love your sad self. Job done.
Yes and me, what a sad sad waste of human cells and tissue. Clear to all that you have nothing better to do with your life than irritate and insult others. I have to laugh at your so called 'intelligent comments' you will respond to this again I'm sure, with some banal triviality. If this gives you a thrill or stimulates your brain cell into action enough to put your nasty little fingers on your keyboard, please do, then go back to staring at your face in the mirror, you clearly love your sad self. Job done. shining star
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9:11pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

You should seek professional help, no point languishing in what appears at face value to be some form of depression.
You should seek professional help, no point languishing in what appears at face value to be some form of depression. Somethingsarejustwrong
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12:48pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Omnishambles_1 says...

I would like to add an observation I have made reading through these comments. It appears people, who have a right to be either concerned or to oppose this program, seem to come to a conclusion based on a misunderstanding.

The people this program looks to help are homeless. As I know many here are unaware of, there are too many homeless people in this City of ours, you must not make the mistake of confusing them with alcoholics or drug addicts or anyone who suffers from any kind of addiction whether visible or not. There are other programs designed and implemented to help treat and curtail their addiction and there is definite progress in this sector.

Homeless people are not of this group however, they are people who have fallen through the cracks of society due to bad luck and a myriad of personal/employment issues which they address through numerous counseling sessions, housing programs, hostels and make use of free sheltering provided by excellent staff who mainly work voluntarily. I think we can all agree there is nothing more sad than knowing a family is having to make use of a homeless shelter. They try to get back into work and contact government officials where possible to try and secure any temporary environment for their family. They do not simply expect a better lifestyle for free. They must go through a lengthy process to secure one of the programs' housing units as these are not simply handed out.
I hope this helps to clarify this and help you re-assess your preconceptions on the different groups of people around Brighton and Hove, how they are portrayed and what can be realistically and appropriately done to help them. I will reading any further comments on this message board with great interest.
I would like to add an observation I have made reading through these comments. It appears people, who have a right to be either concerned or to oppose this program, seem to come to a conclusion based on a misunderstanding. The people this program looks to help are homeless. As I know many here are unaware of, there are too many homeless people in this City of ours, you must not make the mistake of confusing them with alcoholics or drug addicts or anyone who suffers from any kind of addiction whether visible or not. There are other programs designed and implemented to help treat and curtail their addiction and there is definite progress in this sector. Homeless people are not of this group however, they are people who have fallen through the cracks of society due to bad luck and a myriad of personal/employment issues which they address through numerous counseling sessions, housing programs, hostels and make use of free sheltering provided by excellent staff who mainly work voluntarily. I think we can all agree there is nothing more sad than knowing a family is having to make use of a homeless shelter. They try to get back into work and contact government officials where possible to try and secure any temporary environment for their family. They do not simply expect a better lifestyle for free. They must go through a lengthy process to secure one of the programs' housing units as these are not simply handed out. I hope this helps to clarify this and help you re-assess your preconceptions on the different groups of people around Brighton and Hove, how they are portrayed and what can be realistically and appropriately done to help them. I will reading any further comments on this message board with great interest. Omnishambles_1
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12:49pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Euly says...

HJarrs wrote:
Algeria Touchshriek wrote:
Work hard, lead a good life, never take drugs, wash and drink only socially but you do not earn quite enough money to get your own drum so you stay at home with your parents and put your name on the list...... Or. Take drugs, never work, shout at buses, smell like piddle, beg on street corners like a ragged dog, take more drugs, drink Special Brew in parks, scare small children, take more drugs, don't wash, fight and beg some more and you will get your own place. Says it all really.
I think you have been sussed as a windup merchant.
Or just an Arse !
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algeria Touchshriek[/bold] wrote: Work hard, lead a good life, never take drugs, wash and drink only socially but you do not earn quite enough money to get your own drum so you stay at home with your parents and put your name on the list...... Or. Take drugs, never work, shout at buses, smell like piddle, beg on street corners like a ragged dog, take more drugs, drink Special Brew in parks, scare small children, take more drugs, don't wash, fight and beg some more and you will get your own place. Says it all really.[/p][/quote]I think you have been sussed as a windup merchant.[/p][/quote]Or just an Arse ! Euly
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11:30am Sat 15 Dec 12

braigieben says...

Cant they just all move in and live with shining star? Then you can care for them and we dont have to hear them ask us for change again? Winner winner chicken dinner (maybe after next week though otherwise youll need to buy another couple of turkeys, just a thought or maybe because you are so caring youll be more than happy to feed them all)
Cant they just all move in and live with shining star? Then you can care for them and we dont have to hear them ask us for change again? Winner winner chicken dinner (maybe after next week though otherwise youll need to buy another couple of turkeys, just a thought or maybe because you are so caring youll be more than happy to feed them all) braigieben
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