Military contract for Brighton-based technology firm (From The Argus)

jhunty & gazscott (aka punch & judy)- over to you !

brilliant news for the local economy! now wait for the 'smash EDO' mob to turn up. what a great coup for a local company.

Good news for EDO and its workforce.

Perhaps some of the left-wing welfare scroungers can be made to polish the missiles in return for their benefit.

Good news all round. In these gloomy economic times we need a boost like this. Just waiting for Mr Scott and zrfau to post the usual drivel about Israel.

First, I do not agree with the tactics that Smash EDO use in their protest against EDO.

Also, It is good to see some kind of industry surviving in this country and investment being made but when the end result is inevitable bloodshed,this news is hardly something to celebrate.

Furthermore, whilst there are widespread cuts and austerity measures in place I find large defence spending to be morally reprehensible.

if your poor,brown skinned and live outside of the developed world then this is bad news. If however, you're employed by the merchants of death, have zero morals ( or are capable of self-deceit ) and enjoy the rape/pillage of other lands and people for the benefit of an unelected elite then thumbs up.

hursthill wrote:
jhunty & gazscott (aka punch & judy)- over to you !

You have really made me laugh with that remark.
I think that my main issue with Smashedo is their use of violence to try and impose their minority views on the majority and it is clear, as I have always argued, that this kind of extremism actually harms their cause.
There is also the fact that not a single one of their claims, as recently heard in court at length, during Neros trial has ever been substansiated.
But also of course is the massively hypocritical stance of Smashedo and the right to protest, they have always claimed this right for themselves, often calling it "sacred". Yet when people they disagree with protest, they are out on the streets using violence to try and prevent citizens of this country exercising their democratic rights. As we saw during the March for England which was a day of shame for democracy earlier on this year.
Andy R and Gaz Scott, along with the greens tie themselves up in knots trying to justify this blatantly hypocritical stance but they fail and only succeed in looking as if they want more rights than everyone else in Brighton.

Smashing EDO! Well done

Its sad that so many millions of public money is spent on bombs to kill people half way around the world and this is justified on the basis - not of the necessity of these bombs - but on the number of jobs it will safeguard.

On this logic a job is considered more important than human life beyond a political borderline.

Its a prime example of blinkered nationalist madness - and it is also blind to the fact that the profits from this contract will go straight back to Raytheon corporate HQ in the USA.

It only benefits a small group of people in the military industries who are utterly invested in more pointless wars and killings.

I wonder how many NHS nurses jobs 25 million could safeguard,from which we could all benefit, and as a result lives might be saved instead of violently destroyed.

Well done to the Argus for publishing. It's not the nicest work to be in, but it's for our defence. Perhaps we shouldn't make them and not bother having any armies or defences at all? Just watch people invade us if we didn't! Even in this day and age we need a strong army, a nuclear deterrent and world class military hardware. I'm not advocating war, it's more about protecting each country's sovereignty. EVERY country needs a military and defences in some shape or form.

dawind wrote:
if your poor,brown skinned and live outside of the developed world then this is bad news. If however, you're employed by the merchants of death, have zero morals ( or are capable of self-deceit ) and enjoy the rape/pillage of other lands and people for the benefit of an unelected elite then thumbs up.

Ahh forgot about dawind. Ok so let me amend that - I'm waiting for the usual drivel by Mr Scott, zrfau (real name Richard Purcell by the way) AND dawind.

I think this guy's sponsored by the amount of times he can wedge the phrase 'unelected elite' into all of his posts !!

AmboGuy wrote:

dawind wrote:
if your poor,brown skinned and live outside of the developed world then this is bad news. If however, you're employed by the merchants of death, have zero morals ( or are capable of self-deceit ) and enjoy the rape/pillage of other lands and people for the benefit of an unelected elite then thumbs up.

Ahh forgot about dawind. Ok so let me amend that - I'm waiting for the usual drivel by Mr Scott, zrfau (real name Richard Purcell by the way) AND dawind.

I think this guy's sponsored by the amount of times he can wedge the phrase 'unelected elite' into all of his posts !!

This is of course great news for Brighton and I think in many ways is exactly what the company deserves.

In terms of the usual wasters on here, who if not banned from the site - Gazzer I suspect is - will spout forth all the drivel we have already read and ignored many, many times.

Happy days indeed!

Hoarder12345444 wrote:
Well done to the Argus for publishing. It's not the nicest work to be in, but it's for our defence. Perhaps we shouldn't make them and not bother having any armies or defences at all? Just watch people invade us if we didn't! Even in this day and age we need a strong army, a nuclear deterrent and world class military hardware. I'm not advocating war, it's more about protecting each country's sovereignty. EVERY country needs a military and defences in some shape or form.

Fair point, we all have the right to defend ourselves, but its very hard to believe the UK borders are under any threat of invasion by any other country. Its seems more likely the other way round. We are the threat to others, as proven so violently over the last decade or so.
How many have we killed with Paveway bombs since 2001?
How many times has UK sovereignty been breached or even mildly threatened in that time? The answer to the second question does not justify the answer to the first.

smedley butler wrote:

Hoarder12345444 wrote:
Well done to the Argus for publishing. It's not the nicest work to be in, but it's for our defence. Perhaps we shouldn't make them and not bother having any armies or defences at all? Just watch people invade us if we didn't! Even in this day and age we need a strong army, a nuclear deterrent and world class military hardware. I'm not advocating war, it's more about protecting each country's sovereignty. EVERY country needs a military and defences in some shape or form.

Fair point, we all have the right to defend ourselves, but its very hard to believe the UK borders are under any threat of invasion by any other country. Its seems more likely the other way round. We are the threat to others, as proven so violently over the last decade or so.
How many have we killed with Paveway bombs since 2001?
How many times has UK sovereignty been breached or even mildly threatened in that time? The answer to the second question does not justify the answer to the first.

Sounds points there, but this is because we have one of the worlds best militaries we have not been invaded!. My point was if we did not, then we would be in trouble. I don't agree with all our Foreign policies. I agreed we should have removed Saddam from Iraq and I support our troops if Afghanistan. That is a war we will not win though and though the Taliban are evil people they will never be eradicated. Gone are the days of the British Empire and colonialism, today we have to deal with terrorists, pirates and organised crime. That as well as many dictators still thriving. It's still a very dangerous old world out there.

But terrorism, pirates, and organised crime are not solved by 500lb bombs dropped from multi million pound jet planes.
Rather it is these air strikes that bolster the support for the Taliban, and generate the fanatical terrorists in the first place.
If we simply gave the public money it costs us to make these weapons and send these armies into the middle east, to those people and societies we are bombing the Taliban would be history, and terrorist attacks would end.

Unfortunately this won't happen because the reason for these military operations is not the terrorist threat but the strategic aim of securing economic resources in a world of competing capitalist economies. We are told economic competition is good for us, but its the driving force behind western war crimes and genocides going back centuries.

AmboGuy wrote:

dawind wrote:
if your poor,brown skinned and live outside of the developed world then this is bad news. If however, you're employed by the merchants of death, have zero morals ( or are capable of self-deceit ) and enjoy the rape/pillage of other lands and people for the benefit of an unelected elite then thumbs up.

Ahh forgot about dawind. Ok so let me amend that - I'm waiting for the usual drivel by Mr Scott, zrfau (real name Richard Purcell by the way) AND dawind.

I think this guy's sponsored by the amount of times he can wedge the phrase 'unelected elite' into all of his posts !!

Hello Amboguy (what does that name mean?).
Please keep posting as it gives credence to my political stance ie one based on freedom, justice and dignity. That last word, I'm afraid, will remain a mystery to you until you find a dictionary.
Love you. Bye.

dawind wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

dawind wrote:
if your poor,brown skinned and live outside of the developed world then this is bad news. If however, you're employed by the merchants of death, have zero morals ( or are capable of self-deceit ) and enjoy the rape/pillage of other lands and people for the benefit of an unelected elite then thumbs up.

Ahh forgot about dawind. Ok so let me amend that - I'm waiting for the usual drivel by Mr Scott, zrfau (real name Richard Purcell by the way) AND dawind.

I think this guy's sponsored by the amount of times he can wedge the phrase 'unelected elite' into all of his posts !!

Hello Amboguy (what does that name mean?).
Please keep posting as it gives credence to my political stance ie one based on freedom, justice and dignity. That last word, I'm afraid, will remain a mystery to you until you find a dictionary.
Love you. Bye.

It means, as I have said lots of times before, that I work for the Ambulance Service.

Ok comrade you keep posting and make sure you put in as much freedom, justice and dignity into your posts as you like as it gives us all a bit of a giggle.

Well yes I'm sure the 'unelected elite' will one day listen to the 'masses' once they 'rise up' and 'take control' and we no longer live in this 'police state' and will instead live in a 'socialist utopia', what do i know though as I'm just one of the 'sheeple'. Sorry I thought I'd try and get in as many of your favourite hardcore socialist phrases as I could and beat you to it.

smedley butler wrote:

Hoarder12345444 wrote: Well done to the Argus for publishing. It's not the nicest work to be in, but it's for our defence. Perhaps we shouldn't make them and not bother having any armies or defences at all? Just watch people invade us if we didn't! Even in this day and age we need a strong army, a nuclear deterrent and world class military hardware. I'm not advocating war, it's more about protecting each country's sovereignty. EVERY country needs a military and defences in some shape or form.

Fair point, we all have the right to defend ourselves, but its very hard to believe the UK borders are under any threat of invasion by any other country. Its seems more likely the other way round. We are the threat to others, as proven so violently over the last decade or so. How many have we killed with Paveway bombs since 2001? How many times has UK sovereignty been breached or even mildly threatened in that time? The answer to the second question does not justify the answer to the first.

Should we not have been involved in the second world war?

smedley butler wrote:
But terrorism, pirates, and organised crime are not solved by 500lb bombs dropped from multi million pound jet planes. Rather it is these air strikes that bolster the support for the Taliban, and generate the fanatical terrorists in the first place. If we simply gave the public money it costs us to make these weapons and send these armies into the middle east, to those people and societies we are bombing the Taliban would be history, and terrorist attacks would end. Unfortunately this won't happen because the reason for these military operations is not the terrorist threat but the strategic aim of securing economic resources in a world of competing capitalist economies. We are told economic competition is good for us, but its the driving force behind western war crimes and genocides going back centuries.

Hitler, Stalin. Mao, Pol Pot, Ceausescu, Ghaddafi, Assad, Sadaam, Milosevic, Mugabe all heads of peace loving, anti capitalist, socialist regimes.

Guns don't kill people, rappers do

(Summon the police) Woop woop woop

Oh this should get the woodlice out from the compost heaps. . . . . . .

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

dawind wrote:
if your poor,brown skinned and live outside of the developed world then this is bad news. If however, you're employed by the merchants of death, have zero morals ( or are capable of self-deceit ) and enjoy the rape/pillage of other lands and people for the benefit of an unelected elite then thumbs up.

Ahh forgot about dawind. Ok so let me amend that - I'm waiting for the usual drivel by Mr Scott, zrfau (real name Richard Purcell by the way) AND dawind.

I think this guy's sponsored by the amount of times he can wedge the phrase 'unelected elite' into all of his posts !!

This is of course great news for Brighton and I think in many ways is exactly what the company deserves.

In terms of the usual wasters on here, who if not banned from the site - Gazzer I suspect is - will spout forth all the drivel we have already read and ignored many, many times.

Happy days indeed!

Not banned I'm afraid. Just have better things to do (work - just in case you wondered) than argue with the mostly brain dead. I'd much rather ration the little spare time I do have these days into more constructive activist outlets.

Talking of being banned how many times is it for you now? I've never been banned from any list myself but I'd be interested to know your current tally (well I'm not that interested really).

BTW. Ambo's still wrong about the identity of ZRFAU but if it makes him feel all-knowing and clever (rather than just the result of clumsy guesswork) he should just go for it.

Now I'm bored with you already so back to work.

gaz scott wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

dawind wrote:
if your poor,brown skinned and live outside of the developed world then this is bad news. If however, you're employed by the merchants of death, have zero morals ( or are capable of self-deceit ) and enjoy the rape/pillage of other lands and people for the benefit of an unelected elite then thumbs up.

Ahh forgot about dawind. Ok so let me amend that - I'm waiting for the usual drivel by Mr Scott, zrfau (real name Richard Purcell by the way) AND dawind.

I think this guy's sponsored by the amount of times he can wedge the phrase 'unelected elite' into all of his posts !!

This is of course great news for Brighton and I think in many ways is exactly what the company deserves.

In terms of the usual wasters on here, who if not banned from the site - Gazzer I suspect is - will spout forth all the drivel we have already read and ignored many, many times.

Happy days indeed!

Not banned I'm afraid. Just have better things to do (work - just in case you wondered) than argue with the mostly brain dead. I'd much rather ration the little spare time I do have these days into more constructive activist outlets.

Talking of being banned how many times is it for you now? I've never been banned from any list myself but I'd be interested to know your current tally (well I'm not that interested really).

BTW. Ambo's still wrong about the identity of ZRFAU but if it makes him feel all-knowing and clever (rather than just the result of clumsy guesswork) he should just go for it.

Now I'm bored with you already so back to work.

Great new Gaz, lets hope this contract spins off into something much bigger and Brighton led by EDO become the arms manufacturing capital of England.

Does anyone know if I can get shares in EDO? They really look like they're a company on the rise.

Gaz Scott may know?

AmboGuy wrote:
Does anyone know if I can get shares in EDO? They really look like they're a company on the rise.

Yea they're doing slightly better now that they've realised taking out foolish and expensive injunctions against protesters has expensive consequences which can impact on their share price. But I guess even Arms Companies can learn from their stupid mistakes. Good luck with that Mr. Gekko.

Well I've looked into it and they're doing more than 'slightly better'. This is definitely a company on the up, I guess all of SmashEDO's 'final pushes' didn't really have any effect at all other than ****ing off the local population.

AmboGuy wrote:
Well I've looked into it and they're doing more than 'slightly better'. This is definitely a company on the up, I guess all of SmashEDO's 'final pushes' didn't really have any effect at all other than ****ing off the local population.

Summed up nicely AmboGuy.