UPDATE: Overturned lorry shuts A27 near Arundel (From The Argus)

Why oh Why do the police need to keep the road closed all day if this happened in france the road would` be opened within a hour pehaps the police here need to take lessons from our counterparts

Perhaps the Police in France are more 'practiced' than ours due to the French abysmal driving standards?
Having said that, I don't suppose it will be that long, it's just said, to try and reduce the levels of traffic whilst the recovery operation takes place.
Also, we don't know what the 'skip' contained!

A skip lorry probably requires a bit more than the local farmer in a Landy with a rope to move it out of the way. It's a long drive from Thurrock or Croydon, even on a Sunday.

twograndblack wrote:
Why oh Why do the police need to keep the road closed all day if this happened in france the road would` be opened within a hour pehaps the police here need to take lessons from our counterparts

Recovery of an overturned HGV can be a complicated task requiring specialist equipment. There is also the question of clearing up the load which would appear to have spilled from the truck and also repairs to the road. In a case like this it would have been the same situation in France.

In France it would have been shoved to the side until quiet time and opened up asap, no-one with a pink tape measure and slide rule would be allowed anywhere near.

Why o why are railway stations constantly now called train stations? Its been railway station for 150 years, why the change?

In France and especially the USA the roads are cleared very quickly. Here it seems that the power to shut the whole road must be invoked. Or is it to do with the dreaded health and safety.
An accident on one side will usually cause both directions to be shut and an accident on one lane of a motorway allows all 4 lanes to be closed off.
Is it just me or does it seem that it's all over the top.

GRUMPAH wrote:
Perhaps the Police in France are more 'practiced' than ours due to the French abysmal driving standards?
Having said that, I don't suppose it will be that long, it's just said, to try and reduce the levels of traffic whilst the recovery operation takes place.
Also, we don't know what the 'skip' contained!

Depends on what you mean and I believe your attitude is a tad last century.
France has a far lower injury and fatality rate for the most vulnerable on the roads - pedestrians; which surely means they are more civilised in their approach?
Yes I would agree that in decades past casualty rates in other EU countries was higher, but things have changes a lot.
As a pedestrian you are the the 2nd most vulnerable in this country based on 2009 figures; things may have 'improved' since then!

Has anyone actually driven down this particular bit of road? It's a single lane carriageway so there is no way this accident would have been cleared within an hour... or by simply moving the vehicle to one side.. there is no room with woodland one side and a stone wall the other!! There had been some serious accidents over the last few years.. including people losing their lives. Either the highways drop the limit to 30mph from the current 40mph of stick some of that anti slip tarmac down on that corner..

Old Ladys Gin wrote:

GRUMPAH wrote:
Perhaps the Police in France are more 'practiced' than ours due to the French abysmal driving standards?
Having said that, I don't suppose it will be that long, it's just said, to try and reduce the levels of traffic whilst the recovery operation takes place.
Also, we don't know what the 'skip' contained!

Depends on what you mean and I believe your attitude is a tad last century.
France has a far lower injury and fatality rate for the most vulnerable on the roads - pedestrians; which surely means they are more civilised in their approach?
Yes I would agree that in decades past casualty rates in other EU countries was higher, but things have changes a lot.
As a pedestrian you are the the 2nd most vulnerable in this country based on 2009 figures; things may have 'improved' since then!

Maybe the french are not as stupid/blind as our pedestrians seem to be.Maybe the french don't just walk out into the road like they do here and walk as slowly across as they can.Maybe the french have a bit more respect for car drivers and their own lives unlike the idiots that live here.Just a thought

imnotpc wrote:

Old Ladys Gin wrote:

GRUMPAH wrote:
Perhaps the Police in France are more 'practiced' than ours due to the French abysmal driving standards?
Having said that, I don't suppose it will be that long, it's just said, to try and reduce the levels of traffic whilst the recovery operation takes place.
Also, we don't know what the 'skip' contained!

Depends on what you mean and I believe your attitude is a tad last century.
France has a far lower injury and fatality rate for the most vulnerable on the roads - pedestrians; which surely means they are more civilised in their approach?
Yes I would agree that in decades past casualty rates in other EU countries was higher, but things have changes a lot.
As a pedestrian you are the the 2nd most vulnerable in this country based on 2009 figures; things may have 'improved' since then!

Maybe the french are not as stupid/blind as our pedestrians seem to be.Maybe the french don't just walk out into the road like they do here and walk as slowly across as they can.Maybe the french have a bit more respect for car drivers and their own lives unlike the idiots that live here.Just a thought

remember folks people have been hurt.please dont turn this incident into a debate on which country has the quickest method of clearing the road,,think about them,if like some that have posted here,,,you think that france .as well as other countries that have been mentiond,,are better at getting the roads clear...GO AND LIVE THERE..

imnotpc wrote:

Old Ladys Gin wrote:

GRUMPAH wrote:
Perhaps the Police in France are more 'practiced' than ours due to the French abysmal driving standards?
Having said that, I don't suppose it will be that long, it's just said, to try and reduce the levels of traffic whilst the recovery operation takes place.
Also, we don't know what the 'skip' contained!

Depends on what you mean and I believe your attitude is a tad last century.
France has a far lower injury and fatality rate for the most vulnerable on the roads - pedestrians; which surely means they are more civilised in their approach?
Yes I would agree that in decades past casualty rates in other EU countries was higher, but things have changes a lot.
As a pedestrian you are the the 2nd most vulnerable in this country based on 2009 figures; things may have 'improved' since then!

Maybe the french are not as stupid/blind as our pedestrians seem to be.Maybe the french don't just walk out into the road like they do here and walk as slowly across as they can.Maybe the french have a bit more respect for car drivers and their own lives unlike the idiots that live here.Just a thought

In most of our neighbouring countries pedestrians have the priority, it is as simple as that.
They must be given way to at all road junctions, even when traffic is turning on a green light (which comes as a shock to a lot of UK motorists).
Here there are very few places where people can cross the road in safety; except at a very few highly expensive organised/controlled crossings.
The mental attitude that you should give way to pedestrians elswere simply is not in the UK attitude for the most part.
How often has a car driven in front of you, and stopped blocking your path, whilst you wait to cross at a junction? A lot I should imagine.
Such behaviour in most of our neighbouring countries would be considered ignorance of the highest order.
Highway codes were altered to show the new priorities mostly during the late 90s and early part of this century.
We lag sadly behind in both attitude and practice - which are the main reasons for our higher casualties.

'walk as slowly as they can'

Why should they hurry? It is only here in the UK you see people scurry across roads like frightened rabbits.

Spx wrote:
In France it would have been shoved to the side until quiet time and opened up asap, no-one with a pink tape measure and slide rule would be allowed anywhere near.

You would soon change your tune if you drove on a damaged road and was involved in an accident because of it I am sure.