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Sussex student union call for gender neutral toilets to cater for transgender members

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Gender neutral toilets could be built at the University of Sussex to cater for transgender students.

The students' union is in discussion with the university to install three types of toilets, men's, women's and gender neutral, on campus. It is part of a union-wide review into how it caters towards trans students.

Imogen Adie, communications officer for the students' union, said the aim was to make trans-students feel as welcome at Sussex as possible.

Miss Adie, who lives in Brighton, said: “It's an exciting piece of work. We want to break down barriers and make university a more welcoming place for everyone.

“I think the university are really open to it. The University of Sussex is a really open community and we want people to know that.

“We want to make people's experience of university as easy as possible.”

She said so far fellow under and postgraduates had been supportive of the idea, which has already been trialled by Brighton and Hove City Council in the city.

The city's first gender neutral toilets were built along the seafront in Rottingdean last year.

The union added: “We are working towards forming the first university trans-student policy and we need your help.

“To ask trans-people which identity they fit into can be painful, and yet when we have gendered toilets we ask them to do this every day.

“We'd like the university to provide more gender neutral toilets alongside single gender toilets so that all of our students are comfortable and safe on campus.”

A University of Sussex spokeswoman said: “The subject has been raised by the Students' Union and the university is in discussion about it - but there's not a lot else we can say at this stage.”

To have your say on gender neutral toilets email welfare@sussexstudent.com.

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7:34am Thu 17 Oct 13

roystony says...

Unbelievable!
Unbelievable! roystony
  • Score: 17

7:47am Thu 17 Oct 13

qm says...

Utterly ridiculous. It's hardly surprising that this country is so low in the international league tables for education. Beer, wine and toilets are more important aren't they!
Utterly ridiculous. It's hardly surprising that this country is so low in the international league tables for education. Beer, wine and toilets are more important aren't they! qm
  • Score: 15

8:01am Thu 17 Oct 13

hoveguyactually says...

The trouble is it is completely believable. Yet more nonsense and taxpayers' money is squandered on such ludicrous schemes as this. Sadly there is nothing new about the ridiculous behaviour of the students union at the University of Sussex.
The trouble is it is completely believable. Yet more nonsense and taxpayers' money is squandered on such ludicrous schemes as this. Sadly there is nothing new about the ridiculous behaviour of the students union at the University of Sussex. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 15

8:29am Thu 17 Oct 13

BlackRocker says...

For a moment I thought it must be 1 April, then I realised that we're in Brighton. I wonder if Armitage Shanks have started work on an appropriate range of gender-neutral sanitary ware.
For a moment I thought it must be 1 April, then I realised that we're in Brighton. I wonder if Armitage Shanks have started work on an appropriate range of gender-neutral sanitary ware. BlackRocker
  • Score: 17

8:49am Thu 17 Oct 13

HJarrs says...

I can't see a problem providing seperate individual toilets without gender assigned. That would suit everyone. I have yet to meet a toilet that worried which gender would use it.
I can't see a problem providing seperate individual toilets without gender assigned. That would suit everyone. I have yet to meet a toilet that worried which gender would use it. HJarrs
  • Score: 8

9:20am Thu 17 Oct 13

qm says...

HJarrs wrote:
I can't see a problem providing seperate individual toilets without gender assigned. That would suit everyone. I have yet to meet a toilet that worried which gender would use it.
Based on your apparent political leanings I would be surprised wether you were aware of the difference and doubt little that public lavatories would be equally confused and couldn't care less!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: I can't see a problem providing seperate individual toilets without gender assigned. That would suit everyone. I have yet to meet a toilet that worried which gender would use it.[/p][/quote]Based on your apparent political leanings I would be surprised wether you were aware of the difference and doubt little that public lavatories would be equally confused and couldn't care less! qm
  • Score: 7

9:21am Thu 17 Oct 13

Morpheus says...

HJarrs wrote:
I can't see a problem providing seperate individual toilets without gender assigned. That would suit everyone. I have yet to meet a toilet that worried which gender would use it.
But the users are concerned about other users. You seem to think that inanimate object are now the main issue in life. Male toilets are usually disgusting, why any male, let alone women or transgendered people would want to share with them is a mystery.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: I can't see a problem providing seperate individual toilets without gender assigned. That would suit everyone. I have yet to meet a toilet that worried which gender would use it.[/p][/quote]But the users are concerned about other users. You seem to think that inanimate object are now the main issue in life. Male toilets are usually disgusting, why any male, let alone women or transgendered people would want to share with them is a mystery. Morpheus
  • Score: 10

9:40am Thu 17 Oct 13

WKWWA. says...

Disabled toilets are used by both sexes, or don't they have them there?
Disabled toilets are used by both sexes, or don't they have them there? WKWWA.
  • Score: 14

10:16am Thu 17 Oct 13

theleftygiraffe says...

Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...
Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant... theleftygiraffe
  • Score: -17

10:52am Thu 17 Oct 13

AmboGuy says...

theleftygiraffe wrote:
Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...
...along came theleftygiraffe to show just how ignorant and misguided some people can be.
[quote][p][bold]theleftygiraffe[/bold] wrote: Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...[/p][/quote]...along came theleftygiraffe to show just how ignorant and misguided some people can be. AmboGuy
  • Score: 8

11:00am Thu 17 Oct 13

qm says...

AmboGuy wrote:
theleftygiraffe wrote:
Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...
...along came theleftygiraffe to show just how ignorant and misguided some people can be.
D@mn, beat me to it AG ;)
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]theleftygiraffe[/bold] wrote: Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...[/p][/quote]...along came theleftygiraffe to show just how ignorant and misguided some people can be.[/p][/quote]D@mn, beat me to it AG ;) qm
  • Score: 6

12:45pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Hooitness says...

theleftygiraffe wrote:
Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...
Okay chocolate teapot, whatever you say.
[quote][p][bold]theleftygiraffe[/bold] wrote: Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...[/p][/quote]Okay chocolate teapot, whatever you say. Hooitness
  • Score: 2

12:56pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Cave Johnson says...

For gender nuetral toilets how about call them unisex, which is what they are.
For gender nuetral toilets how about call them unisex, which is what they are. Cave Johnson
  • Score: 9

1:06pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Bob_The_Ferret says...

It's not the label on the door that matters, it's the equipment within, and how it is used.

They could of course follow the attitude of our local councils of recent years and just close the toilets all together and leave people to use the bushes in the university grounds instead.
It's not the label on the door that matters, it's the equipment within, and how it is used. They could of course follow the attitude of our local councils of recent years and just close the toilets all together and leave people to use the bushes in the university grounds instead. Bob_The_Ferret
  • Score: 10

2:01pm Thu 17 Oct 13

qm says...

BlackRocker wrote:
For a moment I thought it must be 1 April, then I realised that we're in Brighton. I wonder if Armitage Shanks have started work on an appropriate range of gender-neutral sanitary ware.
Well . . . . if the urinals were a little more pointy at the front you could trademark the He-Wee She-Wee ;)
[quote][p][bold]BlackRocker[/bold] wrote: For a moment I thought it must be 1 April, then I realised that we're in Brighton. I wonder if Armitage Shanks have started work on an appropriate range of gender-neutral sanitary ware.[/p][/quote]Well . . . . if the urinals were a little more pointy at the front you could trademark the He-Wee She-Wee ;) qm
  • Score: 5

2:26pm Thu 17 Oct 13

theleftygiraffe says...

AmboGuy wrote:
theleftygiraffe wrote:
Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...
...along came theleftygiraffe to show just how ignorant and misguided some people can be.
If supporting transgender rights is misguided then I guess I'm misguided.

You 'guided' people are all ridiculous and need to go outside into the real world more.
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]theleftygiraffe[/bold] wrote: Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...[/p][/quote]...along came theleftygiraffe to show just how ignorant and misguided some people can be.[/p][/quote]If supporting transgender rights is misguided then I guess I'm misguided. You 'guided' people are all ridiculous and need to go outside into the real world more. theleftygiraffe
  • Score: -8

5:30pm Thu 17 Oct 13

LanaLovage says...

The gender neutral toilet will be happily used by ordinary cis-gender women, when there's the usual queue in the Ladies. Seen this happen at the railway station in Brugges, where they have the same set-up. Incidentally - you never hear anyone complain that the toilet ON the train (or plane) is a gender neutral - do you?
The gender neutral toilet will be happily used by ordinary cis-gender women, when there's the usual queue in the Ladies. Seen this happen at the railway station in Brugges, where they have the same set-up. Incidentally - you never hear anyone complain that the toilet ON the train (or plane) is a gender neutral - do you? LanaLovage
  • Score: 6

9:31pm Thu 17 Oct 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

theleftygiraffe wrote:
AmboGuy wrote:
theleftygiraffe wrote:
Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...
...along came theleftygiraffe to show just how ignorant and misguided some people can be.
If supporting transgender rights is misguided then I guess I'm misguided.

You 'guided' people are all ridiculous and need to go outside into the real world more.
You wouldn't know the real world if you saw it. Its only the greens that can see what is really going on and of course our future and our destiny is clear and Labour are not part of it.

Bring on the, bring on the...err

Can someone help me with that please...HJarrs, what are we bringing on?
[quote][p][bold]theleftygiraffe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]theleftygiraffe[/bold] wrote: Wow, just when you thought Argus commenters couldn't get any more ignorant...[/p][/quote]...along came theleftygiraffe to show just how ignorant and misguided some people can be.[/p][/quote]If supporting transgender rights is misguided then I guess I'm misguided. You 'guided' people are all ridiculous and need to go outside into the real world more.[/p][/quote]You wouldn't know the real world if you saw it. Its only the greens that can see what is really going on and of course our future and our destiny is clear and Labour are not part of it. Bring on the, bring on the...err Can someone help me with that please...HJarrs, what are we bringing on? I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!
  • Score: 0

9:47pm Thu 17 Oct 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

HJarrs wrote:
I can't see a problem providing seperate individual toilets without gender assigned. That would suit everyone. I have yet to meet a toilet that worried which gender would use it.
Well what a load of gibberish, next you'll be telling us you are planning to join us on the smash demo's
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: I can't see a problem providing seperate individual toilets without gender assigned. That would suit everyone. I have yet to meet a toilet that worried which gender would use it.[/p][/quote]Well what a load of gibberish, next you'll be telling us you are planning to join us on the smash demo's I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!
  • Score: 1

11:47pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Vigilia says...

Perhaps somebody in the English Department could explain the difference between sex & gender to these aspiring leaders of the future.
What in God's name is "gender neutral?" Utterly meaningless jargon.
Perhaps somebody in the English Department could explain the difference between sex & gender to these aspiring leaders of the future. What in God's name is "gender neutral?" Utterly meaningless jargon. Vigilia
  • Score: 5

11:57pm Thu 17 Oct 13

qm says...

Vigilia wrote:
Perhaps somebody in the English Department could explain the difference between sex & gender to these aspiring leaders of the future.
What in God's name is "gender neutral?" Utterly meaningless jargon.
"gender neutral" is only meaningful if you are "educationally neutral" ;)
[quote][p][bold]Vigilia[/bold] wrote: Perhaps somebody in the English Department could explain the difference between sex & gender to these aspiring leaders of the future. What in God's name is "gender neutral?" Utterly meaningless jargon.[/p][/quote]"gender neutral" is only meaningful if you are "educationally neutral" ;) qm
  • Score: 5

7:11pm Fri 18 Oct 13

HJarrs says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
I can't see a problem providing seperate individual toilets without gender assigned. That would suit everyone. I have yet to meet a toilet that worried which gender would use it.
Well what a load of gibberish, next you'll be telling us you are planning to join us on the smash demo's
Yawn, yawn somethingsarejustwro
ng, why can't you post under your own name.
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: I can't see a problem providing seperate individual toilets without gender assigned. That would suit everyone. I have yet to meet a toilet that worried which gender would use it.[/p][/quote]Well what a load of gibberish, next you'll be telling us you are planning to join us on the smash demo's[/p][/quote]Yawn, yawn somethingsarejustwro ng, why can't you post under your own name. HJarrs
  • Score: 0

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