£50 million investment planned for Gatwick Station

The Argus: New platform planned for Gatwick Station New platform planned for Gatwick Station

A £50 million investment in one of the county's busiest railway stations has been welcomed. 

With the government set to unveil a £375m infrastructure investment plan, £50m has been set aside for the redevelopment of Gatwick Airport's railway station.

The plan, which will run over the next 20 years, is part of the Government's Davies Commission which is assessing the UKs airports.

The National Infrastructure Plan will invest approximately £375bn in energy, transport, communications and water projects.

A spokesman for Network Rail said: “As part of our work with the Airports Commission we have been asked to review plans for a future redevelopment of Gatwick Airport station.

“The initial funding announced today will allow us, working with Gatwick, to begin development of a scheme that will complement work this Christmas to deliver an additional platform at the station.”

A Southern Rail spokesman said: “Gatwick Airport is a key station for many of our passengers and, although we have not seen the specific details, investment in the railway is always welcome.”

London Gatwick celebrated its four year anniversary as a stand-alone airport earlier this week, competing head-on with Heathrow, Stansted and other major European airports for airlines and passengers.

Stewart Wingate, London Gatwick's chief executive, said: “Turning round the decades of under-investment in Gatwick, transforming it into a friendly and efficient place to visit, as well as ensuring the airport remains a major international gateway for London and the South East has been my priority over these last four years.

“I would say we are making good headway.

“Looking ahead, and as we enter our fifth year as a competing force in the market, my priorities for the airport won't change.

“We will remain focused on delivering high levels of service and affordable prices for our customers, and we will continue to compete for airlines that will help us connect the UK to established and strategic markets.

“That of course means competing for the UK's next runway.

“On that issue, I believe that a second runway at Gatwick is the most deliverable option that will give the UK the economic benefits it needs, at a far lower environmental cost and will ensure affordable fares for the next generation.”

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7:08am Thu 5 Dec 13

cliff.smogo says...

Basic comprehension failure by the Argus's press release copy & paste monkey. Gatwick's extra platform is already being built, and has been for months, as anyone who's got the train to London recently will have noticed. This extra money can facilitate further redevelopment of the station, as Gatwick Airport's press release makes clear if you're able to read it properly.
Basic comprehension failure by the Argus's press release copy & paste monkey. Gatwick's extra platform is already being built, and has been for months, as anyone who's got the train to London recently will have noticed. This extra money can facilitate further redevelopment of the station, as Gatwick Airport's press release makes clear if you're able to read it properly. cliff.smogo

7:27am Thu 5 Dec 13

worthingite says...

Better late thank never,ran all day on the radio yesterday!
Better late thank never,ran all day on the radio yesterday! worthingite

8:36am Thu 5 Dec 13

pachallis says...

IMHO - the announced study into the Brighton to London line and possible re-opening of the Lewes-Uckfield line is much more newsworthy.
IMHO - the announced study into the Brighton to London line and possible re-opening of the Lewes-Uckfield line is much more newsworthy. pachallis

8:49am Thu 5 Dec 13

s_james says...

cliff.smogo wrote:
Basic comprehension failure by the Argus's press release copy & paste monkey. Gatwick's extra platform is already being built, and has been for months, as anyone who's got the train to London recently will have noticed. This extra money can facilitate further redevelopment of the station, as Gatwick Airport's press release makes clear if you're able to read it properly.
Exactly what I was going to say. Such lazy journalism
[quote][p][bold]cliff.smogo[/bold] wrote: Basic comprehension failure by the Argus's press release copy & paste monkey. Gatwick's extra platform is already being built, and has been for months, as anyone who's got the train to London recently will have noticed. This extra money can facilitate further redevelopment of the station, as Gatwick Airport's press release makes clear if you're able to read it properly.[/p][/quote]Exactly what I was going to say. Such lazy journalism s_james

8:55am Thu 5 Dec 13

disrember says...

Gatwick has just had a 50 million upgrade, so what will this bring?
Gatwick has just had a 50 million upgrade, so what will this bring? disrember

5:31pm Thu 5 Dec 13

HJarrs says...

This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.
This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money. HJarrs

6:19pm Thu 5 Dec 13

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.
@HJarrs - tell me more!

How would finance this suggestion? Would it be economically viable (IMHO not a strong point for the greens!)?

How would you propose to connect Gatwick to the high speed network? Where would the new high speed lines run (seeing the anti-HS2 protests)?

There is already a rail link Gatwick to St. Pancras that takes 45 minutes. Would this need upgrading to add high speed, or do you propose running Eurostar slow speed to St. Pancras or Ashford on current tracks and then speeding up - this would require re-shoeing all the Eurostar trains that have been converted to overhead pickup.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.[/p][/quote]@HJarrs - tell me more! How would finance this suggestion? Would it be economically viable (IMHO not a strong point for the greens!)? How would you propose to connect Gatwick to the high speed network? Where would the new high speed lines run (seeing the anti-HS2 protests)? There is already a rail link Gatwick to St. Pancras that takes 45 minutes. Would this need upgrading to add high speed, or do you propose running Eurostar slow speed to St. Pancras or Ashford on current tracks and then speeding up - this would require re-shoeing all the Eurostar trains that have been converted to overhead pickup. pachallis

10:50pm Thu 5 Dec 13

HJarrs says...

pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.
@HJarrs - tell me more!

How would finance this suggestion? Would it be economically viable (IMHO not a strong point for the greens!)?

How would you propose to connect Gatwick to the high speed network? Where would the new high speed lines run (seeing the anti-HS2 protests)?

There is already a rail link Gatwick to St. Pancras that takes 45 minutes. Would this need upgrading to add high speed, or do you propose running Eurostar slow speed to St. Pancras or Ashford on current tracks and then speeding up - this would require re-shoeing all the Eurostar trains that have been converted to overhead pickup.
A short new connection to the Tonbridge line at Redhill. I read that the plan is to replace the 3rd rail system over time with the overhead system, so Gatwick Tonbridge, Folkestone could be priority. All of which is cheaper and less disruptive to the environment than building a new runway at Gatwick and encouraging ever more flights.
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.[/p][/quote]@HJarrs - tell me more! How would finance this suggestion? Would it be economically viable (IMHO not a strong point for the greens!)? How would you propose to connect Gatwick to the high speed network? Where would the new high speed lines run (seeing the anti-HS2 protests)? There is already a rail link Gatwick to St. Pancras that takes 45 minutes. Would this need upgrading to add high speed, or do you propose running Eurostar slow speed to St. Pancras or Ashford on current tracks and then speeding up - this would require re-shoeing all the Eurostar trains that have been converted to overhead pickup.[/p][/quote]A short new connection to the Tonbridge line at Redhill. I read that the plan is to replace the 3rd rail system over time with the overhead system, so Gatwick Tonbridge, Folkestone could be priority. All of which is cheaper and less disruptive to the environment than building a new runway at Gatwick and encouraging ever more flights. HJarrs

9:51am Fri 6 Dec 13

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.
@HJarrs - tell me more!

How would finance this suggestion? Would it be economically viable (IMHO not a strong point for the greens!)?

How would you propose to connect Gatwick to the high speed network? Where would the new high speed lines run (seeing the anti-HS2 protests)?

There is already a rail link Gatwick to St. Pancras that takes 45 minutes. Would this need upgrading to add high speed, or do you propose running Eurostar slow speed to St. Pancras or Ashford on current tracks and then speeding up - this would require re-shoeing all the Eurostar trains that have been converted to overhead pickup.
A short new connection to the Tonbridge line at Redhill. I read that the plan is to replace the 3rd rail system over time with the overhead system, so Gatwick Tonbridge, Folkestone could be priority. All of which is cheaper and less disruptive to the environment than building a new runway at Gatwick and encouraging ever more flights.
@Hjarrs - actually sounds quite interesting.

Not sure when the switch to overhead power is even planned for (other than a long term goal), but like Charles de Gaulle on the French TGV route it could well provide an interesting option. Probably even more so IMHO if it were linked to other locations in the south - together with connections to Heathrow and other "London Airports" and thence on to the HS2 network.

It needs a real study to work out the costs and feasibility for running Eurostar, TGV and ICE through rural Sussex and Kent mixed and what track upgrades will be needed as well as adding the overhead power.

My concern would be that this will be very long term and there will be other priorities and the perceived need to provide additional airport takeoff and landing capacity will need to be implemented first.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.[/p][/quote]@HJarrs - tell me more! How would finance this suggestion? Would it be economically viable (IMHO not a strong point for the greens!)? How would you propose to connect Gatwick to the high speed network? Where would the new high speed lines run (seeing the anti-HS2 protests)? There is already a rail link Gatwick to St. Pancras that takes 45 minutes. Would this need upgrading to add high speed, or do you propose running Eurostar slow speed to St. Pancras or Ashford on current tracks and then speeding up - this would require re-shoeing all the Eurostar trains that have been converted to overhead pickup.[/p][/quote]A short new connection to the Tonbridge line at Redhill. I read that the plan is to replace the 3rd rail system over time with the overhead system, so Gatwick Tonbridge, Folkestone could be priority. All of which is cheaper and less disruptive to the environment than building a new runway at Gatwick and encouraging ever more flights.[/p][/quote]@Hjarrs - actually sounds quite interesting. Not sure when the switch to overhead power is even planned for (other than a long term goal), but like Charles de Gaulle on the French TGV route it could well provide an interesting option. Probably even more so IMHO if it were linked to other locations in the south - together with connections to Heathrow and other "London Airports" and thence on to the HS2 network. It needs a real study to work out the costs and feasibility for running Eurostar, TGV and ICE through rural Sussex and Kent mixed and what track upgrades will be needed as well as adding the overhead power. My concern would be that this will be very long term and there will be other priorities and the perceived need to provide additional airport takeoff and landing capacity will need to be implemented first. pachallis

9:53am Fri 6 Dec 13

Tallywhacker says...

HJarrs wrote:
This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.
And how would Eurostar ger there,via London Bridge, Victoria or a new line? And what is the point of running trains from Gatwick too other European airports, that's what all the planes are for. Why not build a ferry terminal there as well so we can get to France without driving to Dover. You do wright some daft things.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.[/p][/quote]And how would Eurostar ger there,via London Bridge, Victoria or a new line? And what is the point of running trains from Gatwick too other European airports, that's what all the planes are for. Why not build a ferry terminal there as well so we can get to France without driving to Dover. You do wright some daft things. Tallywhacker

3:30pm Fri 6 Dec 13

pachallis says...

Tallywhacker wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.
And how would Eurostar ger there,via London Bridge, Victoria or a new line? And what is the point of running trains from Gatwick too other European airports, that's what all the planes are for. Why not build a ferry terminal there as well so we can get to France without driving to Dover. You do wright some daft things.
@Tallywhacker - give HJarrs his due - usually he is just a sycophantic green spin-doctor and I am one of the first to criticise him but occasionally he does come up with some reasonable stuff that is worthy of review/discussion.

In this case, IMHO, the use of railways, as one of the few truly sustainable forms of transport (alongside trams and trolley buses), does offer a superior alternate form of transport to short/medium haul flights.

When you have to allow an hour for driving and parking at Gatwick followed by 2 hours to check in and get through departures, followed by a (say) 40 minute flight to Paris, 1 hour to go through arrivals and a further hour to get to the city centre, a 2 hour 20 minute train journey city centre to city centre certainly looks attractive to me.
[quote][p][bold]Tallywhacker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.[/p][/quote]And how would Eurostar ger there,via London Bridge, Victoria or a new line? And what is the point of running trains from Gatwick too other European airports, that's what all the planes are for. Why not build a ferry terminal there as well so we can get to France without driving to Dover. You do wright some daft things.[/p][/quote]@Tallywhacker - give HJarrs his due - usually he is just a sycophantic green spin-doctor and I am one of the first to criticise him but occasionally he does come up with some reasonable stuff that is worthy of review/discussion. In this case, IMHO, the use of railways, as one of the few truly sustainable forms of transport (alongside trams and trolley buses), does offer a superior alternate form of transport to short/medium haul flights. When you have to allow an hour for driving and parking at Gatwick followed by 2 hours to check in and get through departures, followed by a (say) 40 minute flight to Paris, 1 hour to go through arrivals and a further hour to get to the city centre, a 2 hour 20 minute train journey city centre to city centre certainly looks attractive to me. pachallis

8:58pm Fri 6 Dec 13

ghost bus driver says...

HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.
@HJarrs - tell me more!

How would finance this suggestion? Would it be economically viable (IMHO not a strong point for the greens!)?

How would you propose to connect Gatwick to the high speed network? Where would the new high speed lines run (seeing the anti-HS2 protests)?

There is already a rail link Gatwick to St. Pancras that takes 45 minutes. Would this need upgrading to add high speed, or do you propose running Eurostar slow speed to St. Pancras or Ashford on current tracks and then speeding up - this would require re-shoeing all the Eurostar trains that have been converted to overhead pickup.
A short new connection to the Tonbridge line at Redhill. I read that the plan is to replace the 3rd rail system over time with the overhead system, so Gatwick Tonbridge, Folkestone could be priority. All of which is cheaper and less disruptive to the environment than building a new runway at Gatwick and encouraging ever more flights.
It'll take years and years to replace the third rail. That's years and years at Clapham Junction alone.

The best option would be to upgrade the power supply to one that can provide both DC and AC current, then put up the wires, then remove the third rail.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: This looks to be a missed opportunity. It would be sensible to have a Eurostar terminus and provide regular train services to other European airports and major destinations. This would remove pressure to provide a second runway and the environmental damage that is included. But then that is not the program and would not suit Gatwick's owners or the airlines in the pursuit of making money.[/p][/quote]@HJarrs - tell me more! How would finance this suggestion? Would it be economically viable (IMHO not a strong point for the greens!)? How would you propose to connect Gatwick to the high speed network? Where would the new high speed lines run (seeing the anti-HS2 protests)? There is already a rail link Gatwick to St. Pancras that takes 45 minutes. Would this need upgrading to add high speed, or do you propose running Eurostar slow speed to St. Pancras or Ashford on current tracks and then speeding up - this would require re-shoeing all the Eurostar trains that have been converted to overhead pickup.[/p][/quote]A short new connection to the Tonbridge line at Redhill. I read that the plan is to replace the 3rd rail system over time with the overhead system, so Gatwick Tonbridge, Folkestone could be priority. All of which is cheaper and less disruptive to the environment than building a new runway at Gatwick and encouraging ever more flights.[/p][/quote]It'll take years and years to replace the third rail. That's years and years at Clapham Junction alone. The best option would be to upgrade the power supply to one that can provide both DC and AC current, then put up the wires, then remove the third rail. ghost bus driver

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