Sussex pub criticised over sign appearing to mock Glasgow helicopter tragedy

The Argus: Picture taken by Tony Gale Picture taken by Tony Gale

A Sussex pub has been condemned for appearing to mock the Glasgow helicopter tragedy with a sign saying it was “100% helicopter proof”.

The Red Lion in Wadhurst put up the sign over the weekend and it was removed today.

The landlord was not available to speak to The Argus but a member of staff apologised.

He said to The Argus this afternoon: “It was obviously a badly planned joke.

“That’s all I can really say.”

He said no one had come into the pub to complain but as soon as he was aware of complaints online he took the sign inside.

“I want to apologise,” he added.

The sign was spotted by Tony Gale who took a picture of it this afternoon.

He branded the sign “idiotic” and “tasteless”.

He added: “I actually feel slightly bad because I like the pub and it needs some support, but he’s made a big mistake with that sign.”

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6:59pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Andy R says...

Memo to Argus : not managing to spell the name of the place right is also disrespectful.

It's actually in the headline for crying out loud!!
Memo to Argus : not managing to spell the name of the place right is also disrespectful. It's actually in the headline for crying out loud!! Andy R

7:58pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Quiterie says...

Andy R wrote:
Memo to Argus : not managing to spell the name of the place right is also disrespectful.

It's actually in the headline for crying out loud!!
Anna!!!.... not up to your usual high standards sweet cheeks.........
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: Memo to Argus : not managing to spell the name of the place right is also disrespectful. It's actually in the headline for crying out loud!![/p][/quote]Anna!!!.... not up to your usual high standards sweet cheeks......... Quiterie

8:03pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Gourd_Master says...

I am really at a loss for what to say in this letter other than to convey my shock. First and foremost, The Red Lion's brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning its attempts to make bargains with the devil. An equal but opposite observation is that its lapdogs' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. In the end, we have to ask, "When The Red Lion looks in the mirror in the morning, does it see more than the insincere face of an improvident scamster?" In answer to that question I submit—and millions of people in this country and abroad sincerely agree with me—that I, not being one of the many reprehensible sewer rats of this world, challenge The Red Lion to point out any text in this letter that proposes that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing.

Just as night follows day, The Red Lion will eat our nation to its bones faster than you can say "saccharogalactorrhe
a". It's really amazing, isn't it? We can put people on the Moon and send robot explorers to Mars, but my long-term goal is to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, it strikes me as amusing that The Red Lion complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! It does nothing but complain.

The whole of The Red Lion's cruel worldview may perhaps be expressed in one simple word. That word is "credentialism". Let me explain: The Red Lion is doing everything in its power to make me play right into the hands of the worst kinds of grotesque hoddypeaks there are. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Like a verbal magician, The Red Lion knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. The Red Lion has one-upped George Washington in that it cannot tell a lie and cannot tell the truth. Basically, it's too daffy to distinguish between the two.

Let me go on record as saying that the word "poluphloisboiotatot
ic" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that if you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, The Red Lion seems to be playing the "I'm more unpleasant than you" game. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The Red Lion is exceptionally eager to make our lives a living hell. Its insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that we need to expose false prophets who preach that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything.

It would be nice to say that muzzy-headed imperialism doesn't exist anymore but we all know that it does. How can we trust a materialistic know-it-all who actively conceals its true intentions? We can't. And besides, honor means nothing to The Red Lion. Principles mean nothing to The Red Lion. All it cares about is how best to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. The Red Lion's skills are generally used to exploit, abuse, and exert power. So I give you this letter. I hope it helps.
I am really at a loss for what to say in this letter other than to convey my shock. First and foremost, The Red Lion's brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning its attempts to make bargains with the devil. An equal but opposite observation is that its lapdogs' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. In the end, we have to ask, "When The Red Lion looks in the mirror in the morning, does it see more than the insincere face of an improvident scamster?" In answer to that question I submit—and millions of people in this country and abroad sincerely agree with me—that I, not being one of the many reprehensible sewer rats of this world, challenge The Red Lion to point out any text in this letter that proposes that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing. Just as night follows day, The Red Lion will eat our nation to its bones faster than you can say "saccharogalactorrhe a". It's really amazing, isn't it? We can put people on the Moon and send robot explorers to Mars, but my long-term goal is to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, it strikes me as amusing that The Red Lion complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! It does nothing but complain. The whole of The Red Lion's cruel worldview may perhaps be expressed in one simple word. That word is "credentialism". Let me explain: The Red Lion is doing everything in its power to make me play right into the hands of the worst kinds of grotesque hoddypeaks there are. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Like a verbal magician, The Red Lion knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. The Red Lion has one-upped George Washington in that it cannot tell a lie and cannot tell the truth. Basically, it's too daffy to distinguish between the two. Let me go on record as saying that the word "poluphloisboiotatot ic" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that if you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, The Red Lion seems to be playing the "I'm more unpleasant than you" game. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The Red Lion is exceptionally eager to make our lives a living hell. Its insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that we need to expose false prophets who preach that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything. It would be nice to say that muzzy-headed imperialism doesn't exist anymore but we all know that it does. How can we trust a materialistic know-it-all who actively conceals its true intentions? We can't. And besides, honor means nothing to The Red Lion. Principles mean nothing to The Red Lion. All it cares about is how best to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. The Red Lion's skills are generally used to exploit, abuse, and exert power. So I give you this letter. I hope it helps. Gourd_Master

8:22pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Mr Baxter , London says...

Whoop! Whoop! Sence of humour loss
Whoop! Whoop! Sence of humour loss Mr Baxter , London

8:47pm Mon 9 Dec 13

LeonBIank666 says...

If, God forbid, a helicopter did crash on its roof, what makes it helicopter proof?

Forget tasteless jokes, Trades Description is more prudent here.
If, God forbid, a helicopter did crash on its roof, what makes it helicopter proof? Forget tasteless jokes, Trades Description is more prudent here. LeonBIank666

9:48pm Mon 9 Dec 13

city-boy says...

silly and thoughtless....... but not intentionally offensive.

Lets all move on ......
silly and thoughtless....... but not intentionally offensive. Lets all move on ...... city-boy

9:52pm Mon 9 Dec 13

FatherTed11 says...

It doesn't mock it.
It doesn't mock it. FatherTed11

10:17pm Mon 9 Dec 13

JimDallas says...

FatherTed11 wrote:
It doesn't mock it.
oh I think it does, how many helicopter/pub incidents have you heard of recently?
[quote][p][bold]FatherTed11[/bold] wrote: It doesn't mock it.[/p][/quote]oh I think it does, how many helicopter/pub incidents have you heard of recently? JimDallas

10:19pm Mon 9 Dec 13

JimDallas says...

city-boy wrote:
silly and thoughtless....... but not intentionally offensive.

Lets all move on ......
not intentional? incredibly stupid then? That fair enough?
[quote][p][bold]city-boy[/bold] wrote: silly and thoughtless....... but not intentionally offensive. Lets all move on ......[/p][/quote]not intentional? incredibly stupid then? That fair enough? JimDallas

10:27pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Grumpy0ldman says...

I would guess none of his loved ones died in this tragedy
I would guess none of his loved ones died in this tragedy Grumpy0ldman

10:40pm Mon 9 Dec 13

worthingite says...

Argus,can you find a area to put your finger on,drifting now nearly into Kent for a story!

Why don't you just try and stay with the Brighton area,say 5 miles North,East and West,nobody from Brighton wants to know about Brighton stories,let alone anywhere else,you put in stories from Bexhill and Hastings,Chichester and Crawley.

You don't even sell any papers in these places and for sure they have never ever heard of your paper in Wadhurst.

Get it together!!!
Argus,can you find a area to put your finger on,drifting now nearly into Kent for a story! Why don't you just try and stay with the Brighton area,say 5 miles North,East and West,nobody from Brighton wants to know about Brighton stories,let alone anywhere else,you put in stories from Bexhill and Hastings,Chichester and Crawley. You don't even sell any papers in these places and for sure they have never ever heard of your paper in Wadhurst. Get it together!!! worthingite

11:00pm Mon 9 Dec 13

sussexram40 says...

Very bad taste.. and. Argus, it's Glasgow not Glagow.
Very bad taste.. and. Argus, it's Glasgow not Glagow. sussexram40

6:13am Tue 10 Dec 13

John Steed says...

what would frankie boyle be saying if the helicopter had crashed on the red lion in wadhurst. quite alot me thinks
what would frankie boyle be saying if the helicopter had crashed on the red lion in wadhurst. quite alot me thinks John Steed

6:51am Tue 10 Dec 13

martnin says...

Gourd_Master........
.......seek help.
Gourd_Master........ .......seek help. martnin

7:35am Tue 10 Dec 13

Sussex jim says...

Gourd_Master wrote:
I am really at a loss for what to say in this letter other than to convey my shock. First and foremost, The Red Lion's brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning its attempts to make bargains with the devil. An equal but opposite observation is that its lapdogs' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. In the end, we have to ask, "When The Red Lion looks in the mirror in the morning, does it see more than the insincere face of an improvident scamster?" In answer to that question I submit—and millions of people in this country and abroad sincerely agree with me—that I, not being one of the many reprehensible sewer rats of this world, challenge The Red Lion to point out any text in this letter that proposes that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing.

Just as night follows day, The Red Lion will eat our nation to its bones faster than you can say "saccharogalactorrhe

a". It's really amazing, isn't it? We can put people on the Moon and send robot explorers to Mars, but my long-term goal is to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, it strikes me as amusing that The Red Lion complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! It does nothing but complain.

The whole of The Red Lion's cruel worldview may perhaps be expressed in one simple word. That word is "credentialism". Let me explain: The Red Lion is doing everything in its power to make me play right into the hands of the worst kinds of grotesque hoddypeaks there are. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Like a verbal magician, The Red Lion knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. The Red Lion has one-upped George Washington in that it cannot tell a lie and cannot tell the truth. Basically, it's too daffy to distinguish between the two.

Let me go on record as saying that the word "poluphloisboiotatot

ic" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that if you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, The Red Lion seems to be playing the "I'm more unpleasant than you" game. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The Red Lion is exceptionally eager to make our lives a living hell. Its insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that we need to expose false prophets who preach that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything.

It would be nice to say that muzzy-headed imperialism doesn't exist anymore but we all know that it does. How can we trust a materialistic know-it-all who actively conceals its true intentions? We can't. And besides, honor means nothing to The Red Lion. Principles mean nothing to The Red Lion. All it cares about is how best to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. The Red Lion's skills are generally used to exploit, abuse, and exert power. So I give you this letter. I hope it helps.
Gasp! Even Norman Baker could not make speech this long.
[quote][p][bold]Gourd_Master[/bold] wrote: I am really at a loss for what to say in this letter other than to convey my shock. First and foremost, The Red Lion's brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning its attempts to make bargains with the devil. An equal but opposite observation is that its lapdogs' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. In the end, we have to ask, "When The Red Lion looks in the mirror in the morning, does it see more than the insincere face of an improvident scamster?" In answer to that question I submit—and millions of people in this country and abroad sincerely agree with me—that I, not being one of the many reprehensible sewer rats of this world, challenge The Red Lion to point out any text in this letter that proposes that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing. Just as night follows day, The Red Lion will eat our nation to its bones faster than you can say "saccharogalactorrhe a". It's really amazing, isn't it? We can put people on the Moon and send robot explorers to Mars, but my long-term goal is to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, it strikes me as amusing that The Red Lion complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! It does nothing but complain. The whole of The Red Lion's cruel worldview may perhaps be expressed in one simple word. That word is "credentialism". Let me explain: The Red Lion is doing everything in its power to make me play right into the hands of the worst kinds of grotesque hoddypeaks there are. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Like a verbal magician, The Red Lion knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. The Red Lion has one-upped George Washington in that it cannot tell a lie and cannot tell the truth. Basically, it's too daffy to distinguish between the two. Let me go on record as saying that the word "poluphloisboiotatot ic" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that if you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, The Red Lion seems to be playing the "I'm more unpleasant than you" game. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The Red Lion is exceptionally eager to make our lives a living hell. Its insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that we need to expose false prophets who preach that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything. It would be nice to say that muzzy-headed imperialism doesn't exist anymore but we all know that it does. How can we trust a materialistic know-it-all who actively conceals its true intentions? We can't. And besides, honor means nothing to The Red Lion. Principles mean nothing to The Red Lion. All it cares about is how best to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. The Red Lion's skills are generally used to exploit, abuse, and exert power. So I give you this letter. I hope it helps.[/p][/quote]Gasp! Even Norman Baker could not make speech this long. Sussex jim

8:49am Tue 10 Dec 13

Number Six says...

worthingite wrote:
Argus,can you find a area to put your finger on,drifting now nearly into Kent for a story!

Why don't you just try and stay with the Brighton area,say 5 miles North,East and West,nobody from Brighton wants to know about Brighton stories,let alone anywhere else,you put in stories from Bexhill and Hastings,Chichester and Crawley.

You don't even sell any papers in these places and for sure they have never ever heard of your paper in Wadhurst.

Get it together!!!
The Argus is a Sussex paper, not just a Brighton paper. I know the current crop of pseuds that live in Brighton think it's special but it's just another Sussex town really
[quote][p][bold]worthingite[/bold] wrote: Argus,can you find a area to put your finger on,drifting now nearly into Kent for a story! Why don't you just try and stay with the Brighton area,say 5 miles North,East and West,nobody from Brighton wants to know about Brighton stories,let alone anywhere else,you put in stories from Bexhill and Hastings,Chichester and Crawley. You don't even sell any papers in these places and for sure they have never ever heard of your paper in Wadhurst. Get it together!!![/p][/quote]The Argus is a Sussex paper, not just a Brighton paper. I know the current crop of pseuds that live in Brighton think it's special but it's just another Sussex town really Number Six

8:54am Tue 10 Dec 13

Number Six says...

worthingite wrote:
Argus,can you find a area to put your finger on,drifting now nearly into Kent for a story!

Why don't you just try and stay with the Brighton area,say 5 miles North,East and West,nobody from Brighton wants to know about Brighton stories,let alone anywhere else,you put in stories from Bexhill and Hastings,Chichester and Crawley.

You don't even sell any papers in these places and for sure they have never ever heard of your paper in Wadhurst.

Get it together!!!
And how should the Argus have reported the recent fracking protests. To the parochial Brightonian Balcombe is in another country so of no interest but your own MP got arrested there. Now what?
[quote][p][bold]worthingite[/bold] wrote: Argus,can you find a area to put your finger on,drifting now nearly into Kent for a story! Why don't you just try and stay with the Brighton area,say 5 miles North,East and West,nobody from Brighton wants to know about Brighton stories,let alone anywhere else,you put in stories from Bexhill and Hastings,Chichester and Crawley. You don't even sell any papers in these places and for sure they have never ever heard of your paper in Wadhurst. Get it together!!![/p][/quote]And how should the Argus have reported the recent fracking protests. To the parochial Brightonian Balcombe is in another country so of no interest but your own MP got arrested there. Now what? Number Six

9:15am Tue 10 Dec 13

PorkBoat says...

What we have here is a sense of humour failure. It's just another example of a busybody sticking their beak in where it isn't wanted. They are telling jokes about it all over Glasgow. Luckily no one from Wadhurst would be able to complain, because they wouldn't be able to understand them.
What we have here is a sense of humour failure. It's just another example of a busybody sticking their beak in where it isn't wanted. They are telling jokes about it all over Glasgow. Luckily no one from Wadhurst would be able to complain, because they wouldn't be able to understand them. PorkBoat

10:29am Tue 10 Dec 13

Anna Roberts says...

Royal_Recruit wrote:
You haven't spoken to Tony, you have just MADE UP THE QUOTES.

Awful journalism Anna.
I have spoken to him. We spoke yesterday afternoon.
[quote][p][bold]Royal_Recruit[/bold] wrote: You haven't spoken to Tony, you have just MADE UP THE QUOTES. Awful journalism Anna.[/p][/quote]I have spoken to him. We spoke yesterday afternoon. Anna Roberts

10:46am Tue 10 Dec 13

leach1527 says...

It seems to be common these days for anyone displaying some sensibility to be accused of a sense of humour loss, and that "comedians" should somehow stand above mere mortals in deciding what is acceptable and appropriate.

I wonder how the " anything is a game subject for a joke" brigade would react if they suffered the loss of a loved one and heard someone having a good laugh at their misfortune? I hope they would be able to appreciate the joke and join in the laughter - after all, what could be worse than displaying "a sense of humour failure".
It seems to be common these days for anyone displaying some sensibility to be accused of a sense of humour loss, and that "comedians" should somehow stand above mere mortals in deciding what is acceptable and appropriate. I wonder how the " anything is a game subject for a joke" brigade would react if they suffered the loss of a loved one and heard someone having a good laugh at their misfortune? I hope they would be able to appreciate the joke and join in the laughter - after all, what could be worse than displaying "a sense of humour failure". leach1527

11:08am Tue 10 Dec 13

Number Six says...

leach1527 wrote:
It seems to be common these days for anyone displaying some sensibility to be accused of a sense of humour loss, and that "comedians" should somehow stand above mere mortals in deciding what is acceptable and appropriate.

I wonder how the " anything is a game subject for a joke" brigade would react if they suffered the loss of a loved one and heard someone having a good laugh at their misfortune? I hope they would be able to appreciate the joke and join in the laughter - after all, what could be worse than displaying "a sense of humour failure".
What's the difference between the jokes about this tragedy and the tragedy of the Costa Concordia? There were dozens of jokes about that at the time, even Vince Cable making a joke in Parliament.
[quote][p][bold]leach1527[/bold] wrote: It seems to be common these days for anyone displaying some sensibility to be accused of a sense of humour loss, and that "comedians" should somehow stand above mere mortals in deciding what is acceptable and appropriate. I wonder how the " anything is a game subject for a joke" brigade would react if they suffered the loss of a loved one and heard someone having a good laugh at their misfortune? I hope they would be able to appreciate the joke and join in the laughter - after all, what could be worse than displaying "a sense of humour failure".[/p][/quote]What's the difference between the jokes about this tragedy and the tragedy of the Costa Concordia? There were dozens of jokes about that at the time, even Vince Cable making a joke in Parliament. Number Six

11:28am Tue 10 Dec 13

PorkBoat says...

leach1527 wrote:
It seems to be common these days for anyone displaying some sensibility to be accused of a sense of humour loss, and that "comedians" should somehow stand above mere mortals in deciding what is acceptable and appropriate.

I wonder how the " anything is a game subject for a joke" brigade would react if they suffered the loss of a loved one and heard someone having a good laugh at their misfortune? I hope they would be able to appreciate the joke and join in the laughter - after all, what could be worse than displaying "a sense of humour failure".
If it wasn't for some meddlesome ratbag sticking their beak in, no one would have heard about it beyond Wadhurst. Wind yer neck in. I got sent a joke - from Scotland - before I'd even heard about the crash. Anyone would think the pub landlord had personally travelled up to Glasgow and was caught **** on the still warm bodies of the dead. Get some perspective.
[quote][p][bold]leach1527[/bold] wrote: It seems to be common these days for anyone displaying some sensibility to be accused of a sense of humour loss, and that "comedians" should somehow stand above mere mortals in deciding what is acceptable and appropriate. I wonder how the " anything is a game subject for a joke" brigade would react if they suffered the loss of a loved one and heard someone having a good laugh at their misfortune? I hope they would be able to appreciate the joke and join in the laughter - after all, what could be worse than displaying "a sense of humour failure".[/p][/quote]If it wasn't for some meddlesome ratbag sticking their beak in, no one would have heard about it beyond Wadhurst. Wind yer neck in. I got sent a joke - from Scotland - before I'd even heard about the crash. Anyone would think the pub landlord had personally travelled up to Glasgow and was caught **** on the still warm bodies of the dead. Get some perspective. PorkBoat

12:10pm Tue 10 Dec 13

allykatz says...

Im sure if it's a rangers or celtic pub either will be making far worse and tasteless jokes, and Im sure the Scots can take the meaning in which its meant, even if the sensitive Argus readers cant.

We are British, we joke in the worst possible taste at times which makes us who we are. With everything that is being taken from us such as standard of living, the ability to park a car, increased cost of housing, please at least leave us with our bad sense of humour and bad taste.

Im sure no one thinks that any real disrespect was meat by that sign so why act like so officiously?
Im sure if it's a rangers or celtic pub either will be making far worse and tasteless jokes, and Im sure the Scots can take the meaning in which its meant, even if the sensitive Argus readers cant. We are British, we joke in the worst possible taste at times which makes us who we are. With everything that is being taken from us such as standard of living, the ability to park a car, increased cost of housing, please at least leave us with our bad sense of humour and bad taste. Im sure no one thinks that any real disrespect was meat by that sign so why act like so officiously? allykatz

12:34pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Quiterie says...

Anna Roberts wrote:
Royal_Recruit wrote:
You haven't spoken to Tony, you have just MADE UP THE QUOTES.

Awful journalism Anna.
I have spoken to him. We spoke yesterday afternoon.
How dare you dis Anna.
[quote][p][bold]Anna Roberts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Royal_Recruit[/bold] wrote: You haven't spoken to Tony, you have just MADE UP THE QUOTES. Awful journalism Anna.[/p][/quote]I have spoken to him. We spoke yesterday afternoon.[/p][/quote]How dare you dis Anna. Quiterie

12:42pm Tue 10 Dec 13

notaconspiracy says...

So, the only criticism reported is from Tony Gale who, we assume, sold the photo to the Argus.

And the condemnation reported... Was that Tony Gale, too?

Let's have Tony Gale's thoughts on other pub signs, eh?
So, the only criticism reported is from Tony Gale who, we assume, sold the photo to the Argus. And the condemnation reported... Was that Tony Gale, too? Let's have Tony Gale's thoughts on other pub signs, eh? notaconspiracy

1:32pm Tue 10 Dec 13

clarkebrighton says...

Very Bad Taste
Very Bad Taste clarkebrighton

4:50pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Mr_Tea says...

Gourd_Master wrote:
I am really at a loss for what to say in this letter other than to convey my shock. First and foremost, The Red Lion's brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning its attempts to make bargains with the devil. An equal but opposite observation is that its lapdogs' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. In the end, we have to ask, "When The Red Lion looks in the mirror in the morning, does it see more than the insincere face of an improvident scamster?" In answer to that question I submit—and millions of people in this country and abroad sincerely agree with me—that I, not being one of the many reprehensible sewer rats of this world, challenge The Red Lion to point out any text in this letter that proposes that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing.

Just as night follows day, The Red Lion will eat our nation to its bones faster than you can say "saccharogalactorrhe

a". It's really amazing, isn't it? We can put people on the Moon and send robot explorers to Mars, but my long-term goal is to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, it strikes me as amusing that The Red Lion complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! It does nothing but complain.

The whole of The Red Lion's cruel worldview may perhaps be expressed in one simple word. That word is "credentialism". Let me explain: The Red Lion is doing everything in its power to make me play right into the hands of the worst kinds of grotesque hoddypeaks there are. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Like a verbal magician, The Red Lion knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. The Red Lion has one-upped George Washington in that it cannot tell a lie and cannot tell the truth. Basically, it's too daffy to distinguish between the two.

Let me go on record as saying that the word "poluphloisboiotatot

ic" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that if you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, The Red Lion seems to be playing the "I'm more unpleasant than you" game. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The Red Lion is exceptionally eager to make our lives a living hell. Its insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that we need to expose false prophets who preach that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything.

It would be nice to say that muzzy-headed imperialism doesn't exist anymore but we all know that it does. How can we trust a materialistic know-it-all who actively conceals its true intentions? We can't. And besides, honor means nothing to The Red Lion. Principles mean nothing to The Red Lion. All it cares about is how best to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. The Red Lion's skills are generally used to exploit, abuse, and exert power. So I give you this letter. I hope it helps.
Argus, the bloated posts from this guy (I am making an assumption..) is filling up your boards (and the internet) with content generated by this tool (or one like it) http://www.pakin.org
/complaint/ . Please ban him or remove the posts for the sake of our sanity!
[quote][p][bold]Gourd_Master[/bold] wrote: I am really at a loss for what to say in this letter other than to convey my shock. First and foremost, The Red Lion's brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning its attempts to make bargains with the devil. An equal but opposite observation is that its lapdogs' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. In the end, we have to ask, "When The Red Lion looks in the mirror in the morning, does it see more than the insincere face of an improvident scamster?" In answer to that question I submit—and millions of people in this country and abroad sincerely agree with me—that I, not being one of the many reprehensible sewer rats of this world, challenge The Red Lion to point out any text in this letter that proposes that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing. Just as night follows day, The Red Lion will eat our nation to its bones faster than you can say "saccharogalactorrhe a". It's really amazing, isn't it? We can put people on the Moon and send robot explorers to Mars, but my long-term goal is to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, it strikes me as amusing that The Red Lion complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! It does nothing but complain. The whole of The Red Lion's cruel worldview may perhaps be expressed in one simple word. That word is "credentialism". Let me explain: The Red Lion is doing everything in its power to make me play right into the hands of the worst kinds of grotesque hoddypeaks there are. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Like a verbal magician, The Red Lion knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. The Red Lion has one-upped George Washington in that it cannot tell a lie and cannot tell the truth. Basically, it's too daffy to distinguish between the two. Let me go on record as saying that the word "poluphloisboiotatot ic" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that if you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, The Red Lion seems to be playing the "I'm more unpleasant than you" game. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The Red Lion is exceptionally eager to make our lives a living hell. Its insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that we need to expose false prophets who preach that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything. It would be nice to say that muzzy-headed imperialism doesn't exist anymore but we all know that it does. How can we trust a materialistic know-it-all who actively conceals its true intentions? We can't. And besides, honor means nothing to The Red Lion. Principles mean nothing to The Red Lion. All it cares about is how best to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. The Red Lion's skills are generally used to exploit, abuse, and exert power. So I give you this letter. I hope it helps.[/p][/quote]Argus, the bloated posts from this guy (I am making an assumption..) is filling up your boards (and the internet) with content generated by this tool (or one like it) http://www.pakin.org /complaint/ . Please ban him or remove the posts for the sake of our sanity! Mr_Tea

5:29pm Tue 10 Dec 13

All 9 of me says...

clarkebrighton wrote:
Very Bad Taste
Have you tried Listerine ?
[quote][p][bold]clarkebrighton[/bold] wrote: Very Bad Taste[/p][/quote]Have you tried Listerine ? All 9 of me

6:09pm Tue 10 Dec 13

bluemonday says...

city-boy wrote:
silly and thoughtless....... but not intentionally offensive.

Lets all move on ......
not intentionally offensive,what?so he didn't mean to write it.it's quite sickening actually.
[quote][p][bold]city-boy[/bold] wrote: silly and thoughtless....... but not intentionally offensive. Lets all move on ......[/p][/quote]not intentionally offensive,what?so he didn't mean to write it.it's quite sickening actually. bluemonday

6:36pm Tue 10 Dec 13

RaveyDavey says...

Gourd_Master wrote:
I am really at a loss for what to say in this letter other than to convey my shock. First and foremost, The Red Lion's brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning its attempts to make bargains with the devil. An equal but opposite observation is that its lapdogs' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. In the end, we have to ask, "When The Red Lion looks in the mirror in the morning, does it see more than the insincere face of an improvident scamster?" In answer to that question I submit—and millions of people in this country and abroad sincerely agree with me—that I, not being one of the many reprehensible sewer rats of this world, challenge The Red Lion to point out any text in this letter that proposes that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing.

Just as night follows day, The Red Lion will eat our nation to its bones faster than you can say "saccharogalactorrhe

a". It's really amazing, isn't it? We can put people on the Moon and send robot explorers to Mars, but my long-term goal is to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, it strikes me as amusing that The Red Lion complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! It does nothing but complain.

The whole of The Red Lion's cruel worldview may perhaps be expressed in one simple word. That word is "credentialism". Let me explain: The Red Lion is doing everything in its power to make me play right into the hands of the worst kinds of grotesque hoddypeaks there are. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Like a verbal magician, The Red Lion knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. The Red Lion has one-upped George Washington in that it cannot tell a lie and cannot tell the truth. Basically, it's too daffy to distinguish between the two.

Let me go on record as saying that the word "poluphloisboiotatot

ic" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that if you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, The Red Lion seems to be playing the "I'm more unpleasant than you" game. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The Red Lion is exceptionally eager to make our lives a living hell. Its insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that we need to expose false prophets who preach that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything.

It would be nice to say that muzzy-headed imperialism doesn't exist anymore but we all know that it does. How can we trust a materialistic know-it-all who actively conceals its true intentions? We can't. And besides, honor means nothing to The Red Lion. Principles mean nothing to The Red Lion. All it cares about is how best to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. The Red Lion's skills are generally used to exploit, abuse, and exert power. So I give you this letter. I hope it helps.
WTF is this post actually about? Did anyone even bother to read it?
Bonkers.
[quote][p][bold]Gourd_Master[/bold] wrote: I am really at a loss for what to say in this letter other than to convey my shock. First and foremost, The Red Lion's brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning its attempts to make bargains with the devil. An equal but opposite observation is that its lapdogs' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. In the end, we have to ask, "When The Red Lion looks in the mirror in the morning, does it see more than the insincere face of an improvident scamster?" In answer to that question I submit—and millions of people in this country and abroad sincerely agree with me—that I, not being one of the many reprehensible sewer rats of this world, challenge The Red Lion to point out any text in this letter that proposes that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing. Just as night follows day, The Red Lion will eat our nation to its bones faster than you can say "saccharogalactorrhe a". It's really amazing, isn't it? We can put people on the Moon and send robot explorers to Mars, but my long-term goal is to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, it strikes me as amusing that The Red Lion complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! It does nothing but complain. The whole of The Red Lion's cruel worldview may perhaps be expressed in one simple word. That word is "credentialism". Let me explain: The Red Lion is doing everything in its power to make me play right into the hands of the worst kinds of grotesque hoddypeaks there are. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Like a verbal magician, The Red Lion knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. The Red Lion has one-upped George Washington in that it cannot tell a lie and cannot tell the truth. Basically, it's too daffy to distinguish between the two. Let me go on record as saying that the word "poluphloisboiotatot ic" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that if you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, The Red Lion seems to be playing the "I'm more unpleasant than you" game. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The Red Lion is exceptionally eager to make our lives a living hell. Its insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that we need to expose false prophets who preach that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything. It would be nice to say that muzzy-headed imperialism doesn't exist anymore but we all know that it does. How can we trust a materialistic know-it-all who actively conceals its true intentions? We can't. And besides, honor means nothing to The Red Lion. Principles mean nothing to The Red Lion. All it cares about is how best to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. The Red Lion's skills are generally used to exploit, abuse, and exert power. So I give you this letter. I hope it helps.[/p][/quote]WTF is this post actually about? Did anyone even bother to read it? Bonkers. RaveyDavey

6:38pm Tue 10 Dec 13

PorkBoat says...

bluemonday wrote:
city-boy wrote:
silly and thoughtless....... but not intentionally offensive.

Lets all move on ......
not intentionally offensive,what?so he didn't mean to write it.it's quite sickening actually.
Britain, land of the perpetually "offended", permanently "sickened", forever "disgusted", where everything is "vile". Go and boil your head you humourless drone.
[quote][p][bold]bluemonday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]city-boy[/bold] wrote: silly and thoughtless....... but not intentionally offensive. Lets all move on ......[/p][/quote]not intentionally offensive,what?so he didn't mean to write it.it's quite sickening actually.[/p][/quote]Britain, land of the perpetually "offended", permanently "sickened", forever "disgusted", where everything is "vile". Go and boil your head you humourless drone. PorkBoat

9:05am Wed 11 Dec 13

Fairfax Aches says...

PorkBoat wrote:
bluemonday wrote:
city-boy wrote: silly and thoughtless....... but not intentionally offensive. Lets all move on ......
not intentionally offensive,what?so he didn't mean to write it.it's quite sickening actually.
Britain, land of the perpetually "offended", permanently "sickened", forever "disgusted", where everything is "vile". Go and boil your head you humourless drone.
mate, you've either had too many drugs, or not enough.
[quote][p][bold]PorkBoat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluemonday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]city-boy[/bold] wrote: silly and thoughtless....... but not intentionally offensive. Lets all move on ......[/p][/quote]not intentionally offensive,what?so he didn't mean to write it.it's quite sickening actually.[/p][/quote]Britain, land of the perpetually "offended", permanently "sickened", forever "disgusted", where everything is "vile". Go and boil your head you humourless drone.[/p][/quote]mate, you've either had too many drugs, or not enough. Fairfax Aches

12:51pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Brighton Man says...

A stupid mistake by the pub owners/landlords , he has apologised so time to put it to bed and move on
A stupid mistake by the pub owners/landlords , he has apologised so time to put it to bed and move on Brighton Man

5:07pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Monkeymoo1 says...

Gourd_Master wrote:
I am really at a loss for what to say in this letter other than to convey my shock. First and foremost, The Red Lion's brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning its attempts to make bargains with the devil. An equal but opposite observation is that its lapdogs' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. In the end, we have to ask, "When The Red Lion looks in the mirror in the morning, does it see more than the insincere face of an improvident scamster?" In answer to that question I submit—and millions of people in this country and abroad sincerely agree with me—that I, not being one of the many reprehensible sewer rats of this world, challenge The Red Lion to point out any text in this letter that proposes that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing.

Just as night follows day, The Red Lion will eat our nation to its bones faster than you can say "saccharogalactorrhe

a". It's really amazing, isn't it? We can put people on the Moon and send robot explorers to Mars, but my long-term goal is to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, it strikes me as amusing that The Red Lion complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! It does nothing but complain.

The whole of The Red Lion's cruel worldview may perhaps be expressed in one simple word. That word is "credentialism". Let me explain: The Red Lion is doing everything in its power to make me play right into the hands of the worst kinds of grotesque hoddypeaks there are. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Like a verbal magician, The Red Lion knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. The Red Lion has one-upped George Washington in that it cannot tell a lie and cannot tell the truth. Basically, it's too daffy to distinguish between the two.

Let me go on record as saying that the word "poluphloisboiotatot

ic" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that if you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, The Red Lion seems to be playing the "I'm more unpleasant than you" game. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The Red Lion is exceptionally eager to make our lives a living hell. Its insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that we need to expose false prophets who preach that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything.

It would be nice to say that muzzy-headed imperialism doesn't exist anymore but we all know that it does. How can we trust a materialistic know-it-all who actively conceals its true intentions? We can't. And besides, honor means nothing to The Red Lion. Principles mean nothing to The Red Lion. All it cares about is how best to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. The Red Lion's skills are generally used to exploit, abuse, and exert power. So I give you this letter. I hope it helps.
saccharo galactorrhea is two words and do you have a problem with the red lion
[quote][p][bold]Gourd_Master[/bold] wrote: I am really at a loss for what to say in this letter other than to convey my shock. First and foremost, The Red Lion's brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning its attempts to make bargains with the devil. An equal but opposite observation is that its lapdogs' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. In the end, we have to ask, "When The Red Lion looks in the mirror in the morning, does it see more than the insincere face of an improvident scamster?" In answer to that question I submit—and millions of people in this country and abroad sincerely agree with me—that I, not being one of the many reprehensible sewer rats of this world, challenge The Red Lion to point out any text in this letter that proposes that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing. Just as night follows day, The Red Lion will eat our nation to its bones faster than you can say "saccharogalactorrhe a". It's really amazing, isn't it? We can put people on the Moon and send robot explorers to Mars, but my long-term goal is to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, it strikes me as amusing that The Red Lion complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! It does nothing but complain. The whole of The Red Lion's cruel worldview may perhaps be expressed in one simple word. That word is "credentialism". Let me explain: The Red Lion is doing everything in its power to make me play right into the hands of the worst kinds of grotesque hoddypeaks there are. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Like a verbal magician, The Red Lion knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. The Red Lion has one-upped George Washington in that it cannot tell a lie and cannot tell the truth. Basically, it's too daffy to distinguish between the two. Let me go on record as saying that the word "poluphloisboiotatot ic" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. If that fact hurts, get over it; it's called reality. And for another dose of reality, consider that if you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, The Red Lion seems to be playing the "I'm more unpleasant than you" game. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The Red Lion is exceptionally eager to make our lives a living hell. Its insuperable acrasia is partly to blame for that, but another part of the story is that we need to expose false prophets who preach that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything. It would be nice to say that muzzy-headed imperialism doesn't exist anymore but we all know that it does. How can we trust a materialistic know-it-all who actively conceals its true intentions? We can't. And besides, honor means nothing to The Red Lion. Principles mean nothing to The Red Lion. All it cares about is how best to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. The Red Lion's skills are generally used to exploit, abuse, and exert power. So I give you this letter. I hope it helps.[/p][/quote]saccharo galactorrhea is two words and do you have a problem with the red lion Monkeymoo1

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