Brighton Speed Trials could be axed amid safety fears

Brighton Speed Trials could be axed amid safety fears

Brighton Speed Trials could be axed amid safety fears

First published in News by , Local government reporter

The world's longest-running motorsports event could be stopped over safety fears.

The first Brighton Speed Trials took place in Madeira Drive, Brighton, in 1905.

But organisers say they fear for its future as Brighton and Hove City Council has not yet accepted an application to host the event in 2014.

Admitting concerns about the safety of the event following the death of a competitor in 2012, leading councillors said they had to weigh up all the options before making a decision.

But Tony Watts, of Brighton and Hove Motor Club, claimed the uncertainty was because the Green-led authority did not believe the event “fitted in” with their view of a modern Brighton.

Raising the issue at a meeting of full council on Thursday, Mr Watts said: “We have reason to believe this decision is purely ideological and has little if any foundation in fact.

“The loss of this event will mean the loss of over 100 years of history.”

Mr Watts said the decision would lead to a loss of income to retailers, the closure of the club and its Madeira Drive headquarters.

He added: “This situation will leave the council ultimately as being seen as anti-motorsport.”

Following the death of mother-of-three Charlotte Tagg, this year’s event was cancelled while a coroner investigated.

At the inquest the jury heard how vehicles were travelling at 150mph on a road with a 30mph limit.

In its place Brighton and Hove City Council agreed the seafront could be used for the inaugural Paint Run.

In response to Mr Watt, Green councillor Geoffrey Bowden, who is chairman of the council’s economic development committee, said: “Let’s be clear, this has absolutely nothing to do with the ideology of this administration.

“It is for personal safety grounds that the officers have made this recommendation.

“Businesses on the seafront also have to close and we are inundated with complaints from people who cannot access the beach [on that weekend].”

But Conservative councillor Ken Norman said cancelling the event would “destroy” part of the city’s great heritage.

Fellow Conservative councillor Garry Pelzer Dunn called for the local authority to have a “sense of realism”.

He asked if the council would have to close the beach, adding many more people had died in the sea than at the speed trials.

A decision is expected to be taken by the council’s economic development committee in the new year.

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12:18pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Martha Gunn says...

Green Councillor Geoffrey Bowden said '...this has absolutely nothing to do with the ideology of this administration.'

Greenspeak that takes us to the lmits of credulity.

Fight against Greenspeak! Roll on 2015!
Green Councillor Geoffrey Bowden said '...this has absolutely nothing to do with the ideology of this administration.' Greenspeak that takes us to the lmits of credulity. Fight against Greenspeak! Roll on 2015! Martha Gunn
  • Score: 44

12:25pm Mon 16 Dec 13

simps46 says...

What part of Motorsport is dangerous do people not understand??? That is why it is spectacular .Moto GP lost riders recently, that wasn't cancelled. Formula one has lost many drivers - still going. The riders and drivers in Motorsport know the risks,they don't need wrapping in cotton wool as the authorities in this country seem to want.Man up Brighton and Hove Council and INSIST it goes ahead this and every year!!!!!!!
What part of Motorsport is dangerous do people not understand??? That is why it is spectacular .Moto GP lost riders recently, that wasn't cancelled. Formula one has lost many drivers - still going. The riders and drivers in Motorsport know the risks,they don't need wrapping in cotton wool as the authorities in this country seem to want.Man up Brighton and Hove Council and INSIST it goes ahead this and every year!!!!!!! simps46
  • Score: 52

12:28pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Brighton1000 says...

How completely outrageous, More people killed in the sea, than this event, Lets close the beaches shall we? This council is an utter utter disgrace, 100 years of heritage and amazing for tourism and local businesses. GET THE GREENS OUT NOW!!!
How completely outrageous, More people killed in the sea, than this event, Lets close the beaches shall we? This council is an utter utter disgrace, 100 years of heritage and amazing for tourism and local businesses. GET THE GREENS OUT NOW!!! Brighton1000
  • Score: 51

12:35pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Crystal Ball says...

Why not hold the trials around the 20mph zones? Surely that will satisfy the 'elf and safety folk?
Why not hold the trials around the 20mph zones? Surely that will satisfy the 'elf and safety folk? Crystal Ball
  • Score: 27

12:54pm Mon 16 Dec 13

sussexram40 says...

i death is 1 death too many.
seems an inappropriate place for 150mph speeding
i death is 1 death too many. seems an inappropriate place for 150mph speeding sussexram40
  • Score: -71

12:58pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Brighton1000 says...

sussexram40 wrote:
i death is 1 death too many.
seems an inappropriate place for 150mph speeding
How is it now 'inappropriate'? The road is closed, is a straight 1/4 mile run? For the last 100 years its been appropriate, If the same logic is applied, then all flights should be cancelled, forever, beaches closed, cars scrapped, DIY stopped. What ludricous idiotic mentallity some people have. No one forces people to take part, they are aware of the risks.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: i death is 1 death too many. seems an inappropriate place for 150mph speeding[/p][/quote]How is it now 'inappropriate'? The road is closed, is a straight 1/4 mile run? For the last 100 years its been appropriate, If the same logic is applied, then all flights should be cancelled, forever, beaches closed, cars scrapped, DIY stopped. What ludricous idiotic mentallity some people have. No one forces people to take part, they are aware of the risks. Brighton1000
  • Score: 59

12:58pm Mon 16 Dec 13

The Prophet of Doom says...

The Greens seem to conveniently forget history is part of, and the attraction of, Brighton: the Pavilion, Volks Railyway, the pier etc.

Their view of a "modern" Brighton consists of (for example) a restrictive traffic system (finally, if you are lucky) leading to restrictive parking charges and an iSore that will be equally as popular as the woeful wheel.
The Greens seem to conveniently forget history is part of, and the attraction of, Brighton: the Pavilion, Volks Railyway, the pier etc. Their view of a "modern" Brighton consists of (for example) a restrictive traffic system (finally, if you are lucky) leading to restrictive parking charges and an iSore that will be equally as popular as the woeful wheel. The Prophet of Doom
  • Score: 37

1:03pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Telscombe Cliffy says...

It's an important part of what is a massive motoring weekend as the Brighton Burn up motorcycle meeting is on the next day. 40,000 people plus go on the Sunday too and because of the Speed trials a lot of enthusiasts stay over and make a weekend of it- more money for hotels etc.
It's an important part of what is a massive motoring weekend as the Brighton Burn up motorcycle meeting is on the next day. 40,000 people plus go on the Sunday too and because of the Speed trials a lot of enthusiasts stay over and make a weekend of it- more money for hotels etc. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 38

1:25pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Bob_The_Ferret says...

People die cycling. If you banned cycling, there would be no cycling deaths.

There was no serious consideration given to banning the London to Brighton Bike ride after the death of a competitor, despite the massive chaos and inconvenience the whole event causes.

The negativity from the council regarding the speed trials is purely political spite of the green persuasion.
People die cycling. If you banned cycling, there would be no cycling deaths. There was no serious consideration given to banning the London to Brighton Bike ride after the death of a competitor, despite the massive chaos and inconvenience the whole event causes. The negativity from the council regarding the speed trials is purely political spite of the green persuasion. Bob_The_Ferret
  • Score: 42

1:27pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Brighton1000 says...

Bob_The_Ferret wrote:
People die cycling. If you banned cycling, there would be no cycling deaths.

There was no serious consideration given to banning the London to Brighton Bike ride after the death of a competitor, despite the massive chaos and inconvenience the whole event causes.

The negativity from the council regarding the speed trials is purely political spite of the green persuasion.
Fantastic Quote my friend, and bang on!! Sooner these idiots are out the better, How can they even consider banning a 100yr heritage? I hear also that they will likely get shot of Volks railway within ther cuts, If they fail on Lottery funding (which you can guarantee they mysteriously wont get).
[quote][p][bold]Bob_The_Ferret[/bold] wrote: People die cycling. If you banned cycling, there would be no cycling deaths. There was no serious consideration given to banning the London to Brighton Bike ride after the death of a competitor, despite the massive chaos and inconvenience the whole event causes. The negativity from the council regarding the speed trials is purely political spite of the green persuasion.[/p][/quote]Fantastic Quote my friend, and bang on!! Sooner these idiots are out the better, How can they even consider banning a 100yr heritage? I hear also that they will likely get shot of Volks railway within ther cuts, If they fail on Lottery funding (which you can guarantee they mysteriously wont get). Brighton1000
  • Score: 38

2:20pm Mon 16 Dec 13

kopite_rob says...

It will be a sad day for Brighton and Motorsports tradition if this is canned.
It's an accepted fact of motorsport that it's an inherently dangerous sport.
I've tried to count up how many driver's both friends & collegues I've lost in the last 10 years and ran out of fingers.
By having the speed trials here it demonstrates to a wider audience the skill levels and engineering knowledge in order to drive safely at speed, and that speed can still kill even the very best.
I've put back to pieces too many race cars to remember, to know the mechanical forces at play and even with 5 point belts, HANS, roll cages and nomex, it still hurts in a crash!
Unfortunately too many motorists around Brighton think they're Gods gift, but unless you're an IAM, MSA licensed or Roadcraft trained, I don't regard any driver I see on the roads as being better than average.
It will be a sad day for Brighton and Motorsports tradition if this is canned. It's an accepted fact of motorsport that it's an inherently dangerous sport. I've tried to count up how many driver's both friends & collegues I've lost in the last 10 years and ran out of fingers. By having the speed trials here it demonstrates to a wider audience the skill levels and engineering knowledge in order to drive safely at speed, and that speed can still kill even the very best. I've put back to pieces too many race cars to remember, to know the mechanical forces at play and even with 5 point belts, HANS, roll cages and nomex, it still hurts in a crash! Unfortunately too many motorists around Brighton think they're Gods gift, but unless you're an IAM, MSA licensed or Roadcraft trained, I don't regard any driver I see on the roads as being better than average. kopite_rob
  • Score: 14

2:31pm Mon 16 Dec 13

JerryOnly says...

Let’s be clear, this has EVERYTHING to do with the ideology of this administration.
Let’s be clear, this has EVERYTHING to do with the ideology of this administration. JerryOnly
  • Score: 32

2:53pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Joshiman says...

And this is another reason not to ever vote for a party that does not understand anything about Brighton&Hove.Totall
y clueless administration.Parki
ng/cycle lanes/new not fit for purpose traffic lights/street lights.Permanent gridlock/traffic jams on all routes.Anything to do with motors is being targetted.Hence the speed trials.Next it will be the veteran car rally or the mini run etc etc etc
And this is another reason not to ever vote for a party that does not understand anything about Brighton&Hove.Totall y clueless administration.Parki ng/cycle lanes/new not fit for purpose traffic lights/street lights.Permanent gridlock/traffic jams on all routes.Anything to do with motors is being targetted.Hence the speed trials.Next it will be the veteran car rally or the mini run etc etc etc Joshiman
  • Score: 23

2:56pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Brighton1000 says...

We need to do something to get these Greens out asap, I cant wait until 2015, All the great things they are stopping will find a new home, and I doubt very much will return to our town once the loony Greens have slithered out of office.
We need to do something to get these Greens out asap, I cant wait until 2015, All the great things they are stopping will find a new home, and I doubt very much will return to our town once the loony Greens have slithered out of office. Brighton1000
  • Score: 21

3:07pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Brighton1000 says...

Lets hope The Conservatives & Labour will have the balls to step and save this event
Lets hope The Conservatives & Labour will have the balls to step and save this event Brighton1000
  • Score: 24

3:46pm Mon 16 Dec 13

simps46 says...

perhaps if it was called gay pride/travellers we'll park anywhere we like electric car non speed trials it may go ahead without any problems ????
perhaps if it was called gay pride/travellers we'll park anywhere we like electric car non speed trials it may go ahead without any problems ???? simps46
  • Score: 22

6:20pm Mon 16 Dec 13

bikerjimbo says...

Brighton1000 wrote:
Lets hope The Conservatives & Labour will have the balls to step and save this event
This comment has hit the nail on the head. The Greens will lose if the others see sense and vote against their stupid plans. People should realise that the sport is undertaken by competitors who know the risks. They are not forced to do it and enjoy the sport. They actually LIVE life rather than just survive day to day. We need this event 100% more than we need the Greens.
[quote][p][bold]Brighton1000[/bold] wrote: Lets hope The Conservatives & Labour will have the balls to step and save this event[/p][/quote]This comment has hit the nail on the head. The Greens will lose if the others see sense and vote against their stupid plans. People should realise that the sport is undertaken by competitors who know the risks. They are not forced to do it and enjoy the sport. They actually LIVE life rather than just survive day to day. We need this event 100% more than we need the Greens. bikerjimbo
  • Score: 15

6:25pm Mon 16 Dec 13

ARMANA says...

O.K if they ban it, when the GREEN SLIME get kicked out in 2015, bring it back again, easy, !!! just remember to vote on the big day.
O.K if they ban it, when the GREEN SLIME get kicked out in 2015, bring it back again, easy, !!! just remember to vote on the big day. ARMANA
  • Score: 4

6:50pm Mon 16 Dec 13

WhatAreTheyDoing says...

Absolutely endorse all comments on the side of keeping this 100 year-old speed-trial tradition as well as those for elimination of the Green's administration and their imposed ideology.
Perhaps they would do well to remember it was a person with foresight and some entrepreneurial skill who persuaded the council of the day to adopt the recommendation to tarmac the road and also to re-establish the Royal York Hotel in an effort to 'regenerate' the tarnished image of Brighton. Harry J Preston (Sir) whose name has been relegated to the front of a now 'speedier' bus would turn in his grave if we lose it.
Absolutely endorse all comments on the side of keeping this 100 year-old speed-trial tradition as well as those for elimination of the Green's administration and their imposed ideology. Perhaps they would do well to remember it was a person with foresight and some entrepreneurial skill who persuaded the council of the day to adopt the recommendation to tarmac the road and also to re-establish the Royal York Hotel in an effort to 'regenerate' the tarnished image of Brighton. Harry J Preston (Sir) whose name has been relegated to the front of a now 'speedier' bus would turn in his grave if we lose it. WhatAreTheyDoing
  • Score: 8

7:38pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Brighton1000 wrote:
Bob_The_Ferret wrote:
People die cycling. If you banned cycling, there would be no cycling deaths.

There was no serious consideration given to banning the London to Brighton Bike ride after the death of a competitor, despite the massive chaos and inconvenience the whole event causes.

The negativity from the council regarding the speed trials is purely political spite of the green persuasion.
Fantastic Quote my friend, and bang on!! Sooner these idiots are out the better, How can they even consider banning a 100yr heritage? I hear also that they will likely get shot of Volks railway within ther cuts, If they fail on Lottery funding (which you can guarantee they mysteriously wont get).
The Greens haven't a clue about heritage, they are trying to get rid of the Pavilion Gardens Café too.
[quote][p][bold]Brighton1000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob_The_Ferret[/bold] wrote: People die cycling. If you banned cycling, there would be no cycling deaths. There was no serious consideration given to banning the London to Brighton Bike ride after the death of a competitor, despite the massive chaos and inconvenience the whole event causes. The negativity from the council regarding the speed trials is purely political spite of the green persuasion.[/p][/quote]Fantastic Quote my friend, and bang on!! Sooner these idiots are out the better, How can they even consider banning a 100yr heritage? I hear also that they will likely get shot of Volks railway within ther cuts, If they fail on Lottery funding (which you can guarantee they mysteriously wont get).[/p][/quote]The Greens haven't a clue about heritage, they are trying to get rid of the Pavilion Gardens Café too. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 10

8:20pm Mon 16 Dec 13

westside says...

Having attended many times as it says on the back of the ticket and all around the paddocks. Motorsport is dangerous, and to ban it will be a disgrace .
Having attended many times as it says on the back of the ticket and all around the paddocks. Motorsport is dangerous, and to ban it will be a disgrace . westside
  • Score: 11

4:43pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Brighton1000 says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
Brighton1000 wrote:
Bob_The_Ferret wrote:
People die cycling. If you banned cycling, there would be no cycling deaths.

There was no serious consideration given to banning the London to Brighton Bike ride after the death of a competitor, despite the massive chaos and inconvenience the whole event causes.

The negativity from the council regarding the speed trials is purely political spite of the green persuasion.
Fantastic Quote my friend, and bang on!! Sooner these idiots are out the better, How can they even consider banning a 100yr heritage? I hear also that they will likely get shot of Volks railway within ther cuts, If they fail on Lottery funding (which you can guarantee they mysteriously wont get).
The Greens haven't a clue about heritage, they are trying to get rid of the Pavilion Gardens Café too.
And Volks Railway
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton1000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob_The_Ferret[/bold] wrote: People die cycling. If you banned cycling, there would be no cycling deaths. There was no serious consideration given to banning the London to Brighton Bike ride after the death of a competitor, despite the massive chaos and inconvenience the whole event causes. The negativity from the council regarding the speed trials is purely political spite of the green persuasion.[/p][/quote]Fantastic Quote my friend, and bang on!! Sooner these idiots are out the better, How can they even consider banning a 100yr heritage? I hear also that they will likely get shot of Volks railway within ther cuts, If they fail on Lottery funding (which you can guarantee they mysteriously wont get).[/p][/quote]The Greens haven't a clue about heritage, they are trying to get rid of the Pavilion Gardens Café too.[/p][/quote]And Volks Railway Brighton1000
  • Score: 1

4:00pm Sat 21 Dec 13

motco says...

bikerjimbo wrote:
Brighton1000 wrote:
Lets hope The Conservatives & Labour will have the balls to step and save this event
This comment has hit the nail on the head. The Greens will lose if the others see sense and vote against their stupid plans. People should realise that the sport is undertaken by competitors who know the risks. They are not forced to do it and enjoy the sport. They actually LIVE life rather than just survive day to day. We need this event 100% more than we need the Greens.
Precisely! Only competitors are at risk and they enter motorsport events in full knowledge of those risks. If spectators, or more importantly innocent passers by, were in danger the council would have a point. But the Greens are shamelessly profiting from the sad death of the lady sidecar passenger Charlotte Tagg at the 2012 event in order to further their political ideologies. If Charlotte were able I am certain she would say that this is an outrageous hijacking of her fate and that the event MUST survive!

More people are in danger from cyclists riding on the footpaths in Brighton than have ever been hurt or killed in the Speed Trials. You are more likely to slip and fall on the tons of dogs' mess for God's sake!
[quote][p][bold]bikerjimbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton1000[/bold] wrote: Lets hope The Conservatives & Labour will have the balls to step and save this event[/p][/quote]This comment has hit the nail on the head. The Greens will lose if the others see sense and vote against their stupid plans. People should realise that the sport is undertaken by competitors who know the risks. They are not forced to do it and enjoy the sport. They actually LIVE life rather than just survive day to day. We need this event 100% more than we need the Greens.[/p][/quote]Precisely! Only competitors are at risk and they enter motorsport events in full knowledge of those risks. If spectators, or more importantly innocent passers by, were in danger the council would have a point. But the Greens are shamelessly profiting from the sad death of the lady sidecar passenger Charlotte Tagg at the 2012 event in order to further their political ideologies. If Charlotte were able I am certain she would say that this is an outrageous hijacking of her fate and that the event MUST survive! More people are in danger from cyclists riding on the footpaths in Brighton than have ever been hurt or killed in the Speed Trials. You are more likely to slip and fall on the tons of dogs' mess for God's sake! motco
  • Score: 1

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