Brighton and Hove City council leader confident city will flourish in 2014

The Argus: Brighton and Hove City council leader confident city will flourish in 2014 Brighton and Hove City council leader confident city will flourish in 2014

A council leader is confident Brighton and Hove is well placed for 2014 despite the government spending squeeze biting hard.

Writing exclusively for The Argus, Brighton and Hove City Council leader Jason Kitcat said he was committed to doing the best he could to help the city flourish over the next 12 months.

With budget cuts, seafront repairs and pressures on the independent retail sector among the challenges, the Green politician admitted that it was unlikely to be easy.


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But Coun Kitcat said he was confident there was enough talent in the city to help it flourish.

Writing in The Argus today Coun Kitcat said: “Many challenges and opportunities lie ahead in 2014.

“We will keep supporting those in need, helping local businesses and charities while delivering services.

“Brighton and Hove moves into 2014 in a strong position, with a creative energy ready to surprise and impress as we continue to attract visitors from far and wide.”

Listing his highlights from 2013, Coun Kitcat pointed to Brighton and Hove success in becoming a host city for the Rugby World Cup and the awarding of money to roll out ultrafast broadband across the city.

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He also praised the organisers of major events, such as the Brighton Marathon and Brighton Festival and Fringe, for keeping the city on the map.

The Green councillor also claimed the administration’s controversial transport measures were a success, pointing to the “significant” growth in the number of walking, cycling and using the bus.

Looking ahead the convenor of the Green group said he was hoping to sign the Greater Brighton City Deal, which he believes will see developments move more quickly.

He is also looking forward to the rolling out of communal recycling and pay by phone parking in the city.

Coun Kitcat said: “Another absolutely key task is transforming social care and the local health system overall.

“Almost everyone agrees that council social care and the NHS need to work better together to improve services for our residents and make sure it’s affordable.”

Speaking about the spending squeeze, Coun Kitcat said: “There are no easy choices left for councils.

“But I’m committed to doing the best we can for citizens with whatever government leaves us in our spending pot.”

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7:23am Sat 28 Dec 13

the red head says...

Greater congestion, one of the worst recycling results in the country, one of the highest parking charge revenues in the country, countless stalled building projects, one of the few council to up the council tax against government guidelines, higher instances of rape on our streets and crime overall, a tenuous relationship with refuse collectors that continues to flounder and a bus company that is riding the councils idealism with a horsewhip whacking the backsides of residents. A council at each others throats and an administration that sees you and your wife double up on child care expenses whilst other residents struggle. Well done kitkat... A great 2013! Onward! You're doing great for your own esteem, I'm sure! Bet you feel great about yourself.
Thanks also to the argus for this blatant propaganda of an egotistical narcissistic idiot. Please could you get all parties within the council to project their proposals for 2014? Then perhaps the public can start monitoring them, pushing them to stand up to the greens and ultimately make an informed choice as to who to vote for next year.
Greater congestion, one of the worst recycling results in the country, one of the highest parking charge revenues in the country, countless stalled building projects, one of the few council to up the council tax against government guidelines, higher instances of rape on our streets and crime overall, a tenuous relationship with refuse collectors that continues to flounder and a bus company that is riding the councils idealism with a horsewhip whacking the backsides of residents. A council at each others throats and an administration that sees you and your wife double up on child care expenses whilst other residents struggle. Well done kitkat... A great 2013! Onward! You're doing great for your own esteem, I'm sure! Bet you feel great about yourself. Thanks also to the argus for this blatant propaganda of an egotistical narcissistic idiot. Please could you get all parties within the council to project their proposals for 2014? Then perhaps the public can start monitoring them, pushing them to stand up to the greens and ultimately make an informed choice as to who to vote for next year. the red head

8:46am Sat 28 Dec 13

Dealing with idiots says...

Ho Ho Ho. While this pompous little rich boy plays politics, B&H will continue to suffer. We will keep our businesses going despite you rather than because of you. Your P45 is ready and waiting Jason. Hope the new company earns more than the last one you disolved recently. You will need it as you wont be very welcome here. 5/5/15 the best present we can all have.
Ho Ho Ho. While this pompous little rich boy plays politics, B&H will continue to suffer. We will keep our businesses going despite you rather than because of you. Your P45 is ready and waiting Jason. Hope the new company earns more than the last one you disolved recently. You will need it as you wont be very welcome here. 5/5/15 the best present we can all have. Dealing with idiots

9:05am Sat 28 Dec 13

HJarrs says...

A seasons greetings to the Argus moanerati! Full of bonhamie as ever. I predict another joyous year of Argus moaning comments, that the city is going to the dogs etc. Meanwhile, oblivious to the Argus and it's Loyal band of miseries, B&H will get just that bit better for most of us and the city will continue to prosper relative to similar towns and cities. In January I am looking forward to the Gyratory plans in particular and to the confirmation of more council housing to be built.

I do fear though that many of the most vulnerable will suffer due to continuing government cuts; we have avoided many cuts of neighbouring councils, but this can only go on for so long. I hope the opposition parties do not play their usual petty party politics on this.
A seasons greetings to the Argus moanerati! Full of bonhamie as ever. I predict another joyous year of Argus moaning comments, that the city is going to the dogs etc. Meanwhile, oblivious to the Argus and it's Loyal band of miseries, B&H will get just that bit better for most of us and the city will continue to prosper relative to similar towns and cities. In January I am looking forward to the Gyratory plans in particular and to the confirmation of more council housing to be built. I do fear though that many of the most vulnerable will suffer due to continuing government cuts; we have avoided many cuts of neighbouring councils, but this can only go on for so long. I hope the opposition parties do not play their usual petty party politics on this. HJarrs

9:35am Sat 28 Dec 13

LeonBIank666 says...

The Greens are a party full of hate. It is as simple as that. They despise the ordinary hard-working white man, car users, Christmas, entrepreneurs, home owners, families, heterosexuals, Kris Kristofferson fans and anybody who has an opinion which differs from their own warped ideology.

Quite simply they have ruined Brighton with their hateful policies and Kitkat (who I have heard changed his name to Kitkat because he regularly puts 4 fingers in to where God never intended for self pleasure) is clearly deluded with his no tie policy.
The Greens are a party full of hate. It is as simple as that. They despise the ordinary hard-working white man, car users, Christmas, entrepreneurs, home owners, families, heterosexuals, Kris Kristofferson fans and anybody who has an opinion which differs from their own warped ideology. Quite simply they have ruined Brighton with their hateful policies and Kitkat (who I have heard changed his name to Kitkat because he regularly puts 4 fingers in to where God never intended for self pleasure) is clearly deluded with his no tie policy. LeonBIank666

9:40am Sat 28 Dec 13

hyram77 says...

I tend to agree with Mr Kitkat, the city will flourish during 2014 due to an improving economy and the desire for people to live and holiday in the city. I have been impressed with the ultra fast broadband and think being able to pay by phone for parking is a great idea. However, how much of the forthcoming success will be down to the Green Party is up for debate. Having more people walking and taking the bus doesn't pay the bills!
I tend to agree with Mr Kitkat, the city will flourish during 2014 due to an improving economy and the desire for people to live and holiday in the city. I have been impressed with the ultra fast broadband and think being able to pay by phone for parking is a great idea. However, how much of the forthcoming success will be down to the Green Party is up for debate. Having more people walking and taking the bus doesn't pay the bills! hyram77

9:42am Sat 28 Dec 13

Take it Personally says...

"The Green councillor also claimed the administration’s controversial transport measures were a success, pointing to the “significant” growth in the number of walking, cycling and using the bus"

-oh yes, all useful to the local economy...
"The Green councillor also claimed the administration’s controversial transport measures were a success, pointing to the “significant” growth in the number of walking, cycling and using the bus" -oh yes, all useful to the local economy... Take it Personally

10:19am Sat 28 Dec 13

whatevernext2013 says...

it s a bit early for April fool s jokes ,all this council have done is sent people out of this city to shop else where ,slowed down movement around the city and started to make it a slum ,i see it getting better not in 2014 but in 2015 when the lot are kicked out and the people of Brighton retake there city
it s a bit early for April fool s jokes ,all this council have done is sent people out of this city to shop else where ,slowed down movement around the city and started to make it a slum ,i see it getting better not in 2014 but in 2015 when the lot are kicked out and the people of Brighton retake there city whatevernext2013

10:31am Sat 28 Dec 13

charlie smirke says...

HJarrs wrote:
A seasons greetings to the Argus moanerati! Full of bonhamie as ever. I predict another joyous year of Argus moaning comments, that the city is going to the dogs etc. Meanwhile, oblivious to the Argus and it's Loyal band of miseries, B&H will get just that bit better for most of us and the city will continue to prosper relative to similar towns and cities. In January I am looking forward to the Gyratory plans in particular and to the confirmation of more council housing to be built.

I do fear though that many of the most vulnerable will suffer due to continuing government cuts; we have avoided many cuts of neighbouring councils, but this can only go on for so long. I hope the opposition parties do not play their usual petty party politics on this.
Most of the moaning that happens on here, is stirred up by the complete lies and rubbish spouted by you! Are you that self- opinionated that you think you are right and everyone else is wrong? Also, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: A seasons greetings to the Argus moanerati! Full of bonhamie as ever. I predict another joyous year of Argus moaning comments, that the city is going to the dogs etc. Meanwhile, oblivious to the Argus and it's Loyal band of miseries, B&H will get just that bit better for most of us and the city will continue to prosper relative to similar towns and cities. In January I am looking forward to the Gyratory plans in particular and to the confirmation of more council housing to be built. I do fear though that many of the most vulnerable will suffer due to continuing government cuts; we have avoided many cuts of neighbouring councils, but this can only go on for so long. I hope the opposition parties do not play their usual petty party politics on this.[/p][/quote]Most of the moaning that happens on here, is stirred up by the complete lies and rubbish spouted by you! Are you that self- opinionated that you think you are right and everyone else is wrong? Also, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.... charlie smirke

10:55am Sat 28 Dec 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

People have the freedom to express opinion but HJarrs attempts to belittle local people by calling them moaners and sometimes he even attempts to dismiss personal experiences of living in the city as lies. Examples of this were his refusal to accept there was flooding on the Level and queues of traffic on the Lewes Road, despite the council itself acknowledging them.
The Green Party members seem to have a number of individuals within it who are very controlling from telling us that faith schools are cults, to girls not being allowed pink, to expelling religious members from their own group.
If you look at the personality type of those within the Green Party we have a group of people who don't understand people. They aren't good with other humans. HJarrs is a good example of this with his dictatorial approach which purely irritates people. It's so bad I think he may even be a troll because he just doesn't get people. Added to that his atrocious spelling and the fact he left a political party and joined another gives you the measure of the man. The party is swamped with similar types. Bossy armchair anarchists who don't have proper jobs.
People have the freedom to express opinion but HJarrs attempts to belittle local people by calling them moaners and sometimes he even attempts to dismiss personal experiences of living in the city as lies. Examples of this were his refusal to accept there was flooding on the Level and queues of traffic on the Lewes Road, despite the council itself acknowledging them. The Green Party members seem to have a number of individuals within it who are very controlling from telling us that faith schools are cults, to girls not being allowed pink, to expelling religious members from their own group. If you look at the personality type of those within the Green Party we have a group of people who don't understand people. They aren't good with other humans. HJarrs is a good example of this with his dictatorial approach which purely irritates people. It's so bad I think he may even be a troll because he just doesn't get people. Added to that his atrocious spelling and the fact he left a political party and joined another gives you the measure of the man. The party is swamped with similar types. Bossy armchair anarchists who don't have proper jobs. Maxwell's Ghost

10:58am Sat 28 Dec 13

AGT999 says...

Just remember, when election time comes around, vote for the party who, in your area, can beat the Greens, even if it goes against your usual voting trend. No party can do more damage to B & H than the Greens have done.
Just remember, when election time comes around, vote for the party who, in your area, can beat the Greens, even if it goes against your usual voting trend. No party can do more damage to B & H than the Greens have done. AGT999

11:02am Sat 28 Dec 13

HJarrs says...

charlie smirke wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
A seasons greetings to the Argus moanerati! Full of bonhamie as ever. I predict another joyous year of Argus moaning comments, that the city is going to the dogs etc. Meanwhile, oblivious to the Argus and it's Loyal band of miseries, B&H will get just that bit better for most of us and the city will continue to prosper relative to similar towns and cities. In January I am looking forward to the Gyratory plans in particular and to the confirmation of more council housing to be built.

I do fear though that many of the most vulnerable will suffer due to continuing government cuts; we have avoided many cuts of neighbouring councils, but this can only go on for so long. I hope the opposition parties do not play their usual petty party politics on this.
Most of the moaning that happens on here, is stirred up by the complete lies and rubbish spouted by you! Are you that self- opinionated that you think you are right and everyone else is wrong? Also, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....
Though the Argus comments page may be the home mainly to a bunch of moaners and those with a political agenda, fortunately they do not represent B&H. Can you imagine what a grim place it would be if they did!

They seem happy to talk B&H down, yet their main gripe seems to be actually taking responsibility and having consideration for others such as obeying 20mph speed limits.
[quote][p][bold]charlie smirke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: A seasons greetings to the Argus moanerati! Full of bonhamie as ever. I predict another joyous year of Argus moaning comments, that the city is going to the dogs etc. Meanwhile, oblivious to the Argus and it's Loyal band of miseries, B&H will get just that bit better for most of us and the city will continue to prosper relative to similar towns and cities. In January I am looking forward to the Gyratory plans in particular and to the confirmation of more council housing to be built. I do fear though that many of the most vulnerable will suffer due to continuing government cuts; we have avoided many cuts of neighbouring councils, but this can only go on for so long. I hope the opposition parties do not play their usual petty party politics on this.[/p][/quote]Most of the moaning that happens on here, is stirred up by the complete lies and rubbish spouted by you! Are you that self- opinionated that you think you are right and everyone else is wrong? Also, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....[/p][/quote]Though the Argus comments page may be the home mainly to a bunch of moaners and those with a political agenda, fortunately they do not represent B&H. Can you imagine what a grim place it would be if they did! They seem happy to talk B&H down, yet their main gripe seems to be actually taking responsibility and having consideration for others such as obeying 20mph speed limits. HJarrs

11:08am Sat 28 Dec 13

HJarrs says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
People have the freedom to express opinion but HJarrs attempts to belittle local people by calling them moaners and sometimes he even attempts to dismiss personal experiences of living in the city as lies. Examples of this were his refusal to accept there was flooding on the Level and queues of traffic on the Lewes Road, despite the council itself acknowledging them.
The Green Party members seem to have a number of individuals within it who are very controlling from telling us that faith schools are cults, to girls not being allowed pink, to expelling religious members from their own group.
If you look at the personality type of those within the Green Party we have a group of people who don't understand people. They aren't good with other humans. HJarrs is a good example of this with his dictatorial approach which purely irritates people. It's so bad I think he may even be a troll because he just doesn't get people. Added to that his atrocious spelling and the fact he left a political party and joined another gives you the measure of the man. The party is swamped with similar types. Bossy armchair anarchists who don't have proper jobs.
Yes, but you are definitely a moaner. Over the years I have learnt that you dislike loads of things and still await a positive post.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: People have the freedom to express opinion but HJarrs attempts to belittle local people by calling them moaners and sometimes he even attempts to dismiss personal experiences of living in the city as lies. Examples of this were his refusal to accept there was flooding on the Level and queues of traffic on the Lewes Road, despite the council itself acknowledging them. The Green Party members seem to have a number of individuals within it who are very controlling from telling us that faith schools are cults, to girls not being allowed pink, to expelling religious members from their own group. If you look at the personality type of those within the Green Party we have a group of people who don't understand people. They aren't good with other humans. HJarrs is a good example of this with his dictatorial approach which purely irritates people. It's so bad I think he may even be a troll because he just doesn't get people. Added to that his atrocious spelling and the fact he left a political party and joined another gives you the measure of the man. The party is swamped with similar types. Bossy armchair anarchists who don't have proper jobs.[/p][/quote]Yes, but you are definitely a moaner. Over the years I have learnt that you dislike loads of things and still await a positive post. HJarrs

11:33am Sat 28 Dec 13

the red head says...

I think it's good to have hjarrs on here as it validates what most are saying about the greens in general... Ie. that they refuse to listen or see what is so obviously happening. As such, they fail to engage and this has culminated in a lot of anger. I think that this is something that has changed in HofP and although has led to lots of accusations of u turns it does show that mistakes are recognised and amended accordingly..
This green council need to grow up. This is not toy town. It holds real people, living real lives and we are not stupid. You can fool yourselves in the Green Party and especially you, Kitkat, but the evidence is scrutinised and your gung-ho everythings fine twaddle rings hollow to those of us hurting and seeing the abysmal deterioration of this fun, inspiring city. .. Seemingly for the sake of the few's personal agenda.
I think it's good to have hjarrs on here as it validates what most are saying about the greens in general... Ie. that they refuse to listen or see what is so obviously happening. As such, they fail to engage and this has culminated in a lot of anger. I think that this is something that has changed in HofP and although has led to lots of accusations of u turns it does show that mistakes are recognised and amended accordingly.. This green council need to grow up. This is not toy town. It holds real people, living real lives and we are not stupid. You can fool yourselves in the Green Party and especially you, Kitkat, but the evidence is scrutinised and your gung-ho everythings fine twaddle rings hollow to those of us hurting and seeing the abysmal deterioration of this fun, inspiring city. .. Seemingly for the sake of the few's personal agenda. the red head

11:42am Sat 28 Dec 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

HJarrs, you can search the Argus archive and see some positive comments I made so don't tell lies.
You only post on stories about your beloved party, which this season is the Green Party. Which party will you defect to next?
HJarrs, you can search the Argus archive and see some positive comments I made so don't tell lies. You only post on stories about your beloved party, which this season is the Green Party. Which party will you defect to next? Maxwell's Ghost

11:51am Sat 28 Dec 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

Great news everyone.

I didn't have time to read the story, however if the headline is correct then the extra cycle paths and bus lanes must really be doing the trick.

I do have a concern HJ as i believed we Greens were creating a ghetto, or is that lies too?

i don't know who to believe anymore HJ and can't tell the difference between plain lies and spin?
Great news everyone. I didn't have time to read the story, however if the headline is correct then the extra cycle paths and bus lanes must really be doing the trick. I do have a concern HJ as i believed we Greens were creating a ghetto, or is that lies too? i don't know who to believe anymore HJ and can't tell the difference between plain lies and spin? I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

11:57am Sat 28 Dec 13

whatevernext2013 says...

HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
People have the freedom to express opinion but HJarrs attempts to belittle local people by calling them moaners and sometimes he even attempts to dismiss personal experiences of living in the city as lies. Examples of this were his refusal to accept there was flooding on the Level and queues of traffic on the Lewes Road, despite the council itself acknowledging them.
The Green Party members seem to have a number of individuals within it who are very controlling from telling us that faith schools are cults, to girls not being allowed pink, to expelling religious members from their own group.
If you look at the personality type of those within the Green Party we have a group of people who don't understand people. They aren't good with other humans. HJarrs is a good example of this with his dictatorial approach which purely irritates people. It's so bad I think he may even be a troll because he just doesn't get people. Added to that his atrocious spelling and the fact he left a political party and joined another gives you the measure of the man. The party is swamped with similar types. Bossy armchair anarchists who don't have proper jobs.
Yes, but you are definitely a moaner. Over the years I have learnt that you dislike loads of things and still await a positive post.
have you been to spec savers lately ,i think its time you went for an eye test or better still take off your green blindfold
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: People have the freedom to express opinion but HJarrs attempts to belittle local people by calling them moaners and sometimes he even attempts to dismiss personal experiences of living in the city as lies. Examples of this were his refusal to accept there was flooding on the Level and queues of traffic on the Lewes Road, despite the council itself acknowledging them. The Green Party members seem to have a number of individuals within it who are very controlling from telling us that faith schools are cults, to girls not being allowed pink, to expelling religious members from their own group. If you look at the personality type of those within the Green Party we have a group of people who don't understand people. They aren't good with other humans. HJarrs is a good example of this with his dictatorial approach which purely irritates people. It's so bad I think he may even be a troll because he just doesn't get people. Added to that his atrocious spelling and the fact he left a political party and joined another gives you the measure of the man. The party is swamped with similar types. Bossy armchair anarchists who don't have proper jobs.[/p][/quote]Yes, but you are definitely a moaner. Over the years I have learnt that you dislike loads of things and still await a positive post.[/p][/quote]have you been to spec savers lately ,i think its time you went for an eye test or better still take off your green blindfold whatevernext2013

12:03pm Sat 28 Dec 13

NickBrt says...

Any improvements will be despite Jason Kitekat not because of him. He is totally crazy and useless. In fact all he IS good at is convincing stupid HJArrs to follow him regardless! Because HJarrs cant think for itself.
Any improvements will be despite Jason Kitekat not because of him. He is totally crazy and useless. In fact all he IS good at is convincing stupid HJArrs to follow him regardless! Because HJarrs cant think for itself. NickBrt

12:49pm Sat 28 Dec 13

fasttrack says...

A tee shirt under a formal shirt is never a good look!
A tee shirt under a formal shirt is never a good look! fasttrack

1:09pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

charlie smirke wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
A seasons greetings to the Argus moanerati! Full of bonhamie as ever. I predict another joyous year of Argus moaning comments, that the city is going to the dogs etc. Meanwhile, oblivious to the Argus and it's Loyal band of miseries, B&H will get just that bit better for most of us and the city will continue to prosper relative to similar towns and cities. In January I am looking forward to the Gyratory plans in particular and to the confirmation of more council housing to be built.

I do fear though that many of the most vulnerable will suffer due to continuing government cuts; we have avoided many cuts of neighbouring councils, but this can only go on for so long. I hope the opposition parties do not play their usual petty party politics on this.
Most of the moaning that happens on here, is stirred up by the complete lies and rubbish spouted by you! Are you that self- opinionated that you think you are right and everyone else is wrong? Also, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....
Couldn't agree more

If HJarrs and his / her plethora of screen names ceased posting on here and the greens weren't trashing our city then the posts would be much more positive.

Laughable
[quote][p][bold]charlie smirke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: A seasons greetings to the Argus moanerati! Full of bonhamie as ever. I predict another joyous year of Argus moaning comments, that the city is going to the dogs etc. Meanwhile, oblivious to the Argus and it's Loyal band of miseries, B&H will get just that bit better for most of us and the city will continue to prosper relative to similar towns and cities. In January I am looking forward to the Gyratory plans in particular and to the confirmation of more council housing to be built. I do fear though that many of the most vulnerable will suffer due to continuing government cuts; we have avoided many cuts of neighbouring councils, but this can only go on for so long. I hope the opposition parties do not play their usual petty party politics on this.[/p][/quote]Most of the moaning that happens on here, is stirred up by the complete lies and rubbish spouted by you! Are you that self- opinionated that you think you are right and everyone else is wrong? Also, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more If HJarrs and his / her plethora of screen names ceased posting on here and the greens weren't trashing our city then the posts would be much more positive. Laughable Somethingsarejustwrong

1:20pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Lady Smith says...

LeonBIank666 wrote:
The Greens are a party full of hate. It is as simple as that. They despise the ordinary hard-working white man, car users, Christmas, entrepreneurs, home owners, families, heterosexuals, Kris Kristofferson fans and anybody who has an opinion which differs from their own warped ideology.

Quite simply they have ruined Brighton with their hateful policies and Kitkat (who I have heard changed his name to Kitkat because he regularly puts 4 fingers in to where God never intended for self pleasure) is clearly deluded with his no tie policy.
Sounds from this like the Greens aren't the only people full of hate...
[quote][p][bold]LeonBIank666[/bold] wrote: The Greens are a party full of hate. It is as simple as that. They despise the ordinary hard-working white man, car users, Christmas, entrepreneurs, home owners, families, heterosexuals, Kris Kristofferson fans and anybody who has an opinion which differs from their own warped ideology. Quite simply they have ruined Brighton with their hateful policies and Kitkat (who I have heard changed his name to Kitkat because he regularly puts 4 fingers in to where God never intended for self pleasure) is clearly deluded with his no tie policy.[/p][/quote]Sounds from this like the Greens aren't the only people full of hate... Lady Smith

1:30pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Brighton Living says...

Every time I see Jason Kitcat picture my mind thinks spoilt little brat who doesn't have a clue what the people want a brat who is that arrogant he does what he wants and ignore the B&H residents. Step out you office and your expensive home and see what the rest of us see, oh but you too good to listen aren't you. You have made a mockery of B&H were people don't want come here or live here any longer and if you want to help in 2014 you can resign and let a person take over who listen to the people who pays his salary. YOUR A JOKE!!!!!!
Every time I see Jason Kitcat picture my mind thinks spoilt little brat who doesn't have a clue what the people want a brat who is that arrogant he does what he wants and ignore the B&H residents. Step out you office and your expensive home and see what the rest of us see, oh but you too good to listen aren't you. You have made a mockery of B&H were people don't want come here or live here any longer and if you want to help in 2014 you can resign and let a person take over who listen to the people who pays his salary. YOUR A JOKE!!!!!! Brighton Living

1:39pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Martha Gunn says...

Why didn't someone buy him a new train set for Christmas?

Then he could stop messing around with our lovely city.

Almost 2014!
Roll on 2015!
Why didn't someone buy him a new train set for Christmas? Then he could stop messing around with our lovely city. Almost 2014! Roll on 2015! Martha Gunn

1:41pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

NickBrt wrote:
Any improvements will be despite Jason Kitekat not because of him. He is totally crazy and useless. In fact all he IS good at is convincing stupid HJArrs to follow him regardless! Because HJarrs cant think for itself.
Agree

Our city would have.been enjoying significant growth already if it wasn't being held back by these wasters

Morons and symptomatic of the Marxist occupy idiots
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Any improvements will be despite Jason Kitekat not because of him. He is totally crazy and useless. In fact all he IS good at is convincing stupid HJArrs to follow him regardless! Because HJarrs cant think for itself.[/p][/quote]Agree Our city would have.been enjoying significant growth already if it wasn't being held back by these wasters Morons and symptomatic of the Marxist occupy idiots Somethingsarejustwrong

1:55pm Sat 28 Dec 13

HJarrs says...

With regard to my initial comment, I notice that the design for the Lewes Rd Gyratory has been published in the B&H independent. That will give you moaners something to get your teeth into!
With regard to my initial comment, I notice that the design for the Lewes Rd Gyratory has been published in the B&H independent. That will give you moaners something to get your teeth into! HJarrs

1:56pm Sat 28 Dec 13

keswick says...

Well Mr Mars Bar why don't you make a start and get the rubbish collected when it is supposed to be instead of filling yourself with self congratulatory crap. Revised collection due on Friday but two collection days later ans no sign of the lesser spotted dustman. But Mr Mars Bar was the pratt who was so proud of the new pay agreement where exactly this scenario was not supposed to happen. Enjoy it whilst it lasts Mr Mars Bar because your days in power are thankfully counting down.
Well Mr Mars Bar [and H.Jarrs] why don't you make a start and get the rubbish collected when it is supposed to be instead of filling yourself with self congratulatory crap. Revised collection due on Friday but two collection days later ans no sign of the lesser spotted dustman. But Mr Mars Bar was the pratt who was so proud of the new pay agreement where exactly this scenario was not supposed to happen. Enjoy it whilst it lasts Mr Mars Bar because your days in power are thankfully counting down. keswick

2:17pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

HJarrs you may have also noticed that the buses are also no longer sticking to the inside bus lane on the Lewes road. Just like the taxis, the buses are now wearing in and out of the inside lane.
This is due to the congestion in the bus lane at the silly new bus stops which caused buses to queue up making buses late.
So now we really have a waste of money a bus lane which is no longer a bus lane and 40 per cent more taxis on the route weaving in and out of the road -you could have helped the 20 per cent of kids living in poverty.
Bring on the 550 student parking spaces at the Barracks and we'll have replaced the missing one per cent of traffic you thought you would lose.
Idiots.
HJarrs you may have also noticed that the buses are also no longer sticking to the inside bus lane on the Lewes road. Just like the taxis, the buses are now wearing in and out of the inside lane. This is due to the congestion in the bus lane at the silly new bus stops which caused buses to queue up making buses late. So now we really have a waste of money a bus lane which is no longer a bus lane and 40 per cent more taxis on the route weaving in and out of the road -you could have helped the 20 per cent of kids living in poverty. Bring on the 550 student parking spaces at the Barracks and we'll have replaced the missing one per cent of traffic you thought you would lose. Idiots. Maxwell's Ghost

2:25pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Somethingsarejustwrong says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
HJarrs you may have also noticed that the buses are also no longer sticking to the inside bus lane on the Lewes road. Just like the taxis, the buses are now wearing in and out of the inside lane.
This is due to the congestion in the bus lane at the silly new bus stops which caused buses to queue up making buses late.
So now we really have a waste of money a bus lane which is no longer a bus lane and 40 per cent more taxis on the route weaving in and out of the road -you could have helped the 20 per cent of kids living in poverty.
Bring on the 550 student parking spaces at the Barracks and we'll have replaced the missing one per cent of traffic you thought you would lose.
Idiots.
Maxwell. I think you have truly hit the nail on the proverbial head here. The green morons simply have no idea and are blinded by theory, blustering their way through acts of complete incompetence

HJarrs is simply a naive waster who would do well to post on sites more kcal to their residence. Eg London

Bottom line is that residents bear the brunt of all this

If it wasn't for real the very concept would be laughable

Wasters
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: HJarrs you may have also noticed that the buses are also no longer sticking to the inside bus lane on the Lewes road. Just like the taxis, the buses are now wearing in and out of the inside lane. This is due to the congestion in the bus lane at the silly new bus stops which caused buses to queue up making buses late. So now we really have a waste of money a bus lane which is no longer a bus lane and 40 per cent more taxis on the route weaving in and out of the road -you could have helped the 20 per cent of kids living in poverty. Bring on the 550 student parking spaces at the Barracks and we'll have replaced the missing one per cent of traffic you thought you would lose. Idiots.[/p][/quote]Maxwell. I think you have truly hit the nail on the proverbial head here. The green morons simply have no idea and are blinded by theory, blustering their way through acts of complete incompetence HJarrs is simply a naive waster who would do well to post on sites more kcal to their residence. Eg London Bottom line is that residents bear the brunt of all this If it wasn't for real the very concept would be laughable Wasters Somethingsarejustwrong

3:02pm Sat 28 Dec 13

HJarrs says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
HJarrs you may have also noticed that the buses are also no longer sticking to the inside bus lane on the Lewes road. Just like the taxis, the buses are now wearing in and out of the inside lane.
This is due to the congestion in the bus lane at the silly new bus stops which caused buses to queue up making buses late.
So now we really have a waste of money a bus lane which is no longer a bus lane and 40 per cent more taxis on the route weaving in and out of the road -you could have helped the 20 per cent of kids living in poverty.
Bring on the 550 student parking spaces at the Barracks and we'll have replaced the missing one per cent of traffic you thought you would lose.
Idiots.
How could child poverty be addressed by parking money that legally had to be spent on transport? You explain. I do note the council is encouraging cheap travel for the children of the unemployed.

At least this money was well used to lever in £10 for every pound (mostly from dedicated government bus improvement grants) and has led to a steady and measurable shift from car to public transport and bike. The odd bus having to wait or weave around a bus at a bus stop is a very minor irritation, what do you suggest? Make the bus lanes wider?

As a keen cyclist yourself, I hope that you will be fully supporting the Vogue Gyratory changes, as this currently is a major impediment to safe cycling along the Lewes Rd.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: HJarrs you may have also noticed that the buses are also no longer sticking to the inside bus lane on the Lewes road. Just like the taxis, the buses are now wearing in and out of the inside lane. This is due to the congestion in the bus lane at the silly new bus stops which caused buses to queue up making buses late. So now we really have a waste of money a bus lane which is no longer a bus lane and 40 per cent more taxis on the route weaving in and out of the road -you could have helped the 20 per cent of kids living in poverty. Bring on the 550 student parking spaces at the Barracks and we'll have replaced the missing one per cent of traffic you thought you would lose. Idiots.[/p][/quote]How could child poverty be addressed by parking money that legally had to be spent on transport? You explain. I do note the council is encouraging cheap travel for the children of the unemployed. At least this money was well used to lever in £10 for every pound (mostly from dedicated government bus improvement grants) and has led to a steady and measurable shift from car to public transport and bike. The odd bus having to wait or weave around a bus at a bus stop is a very minor irritation, what do you suggest? Make the bus lanes wider? As a keen cyclist yourself, I hope that you will be fully supporting the Vogue Gyratory changes, as this currently is a major impediment to safe cycling along the Lewes Rd. HJarrs

3:46pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Give cheap/free travel to those seeking employment and in recognised training schemes or undertaking apprenticeships etc not kids. Prosperity and work can then be passed to kids in our city instead of vanity schemes for the transient uni population.
As for the Lewes road, there was always a cycle lane there it was always good. The section which needed changing was the cycle pavement which was two way and too narrow and lead to a fatality at the uni. It's ironic that a cycle path lead to a fatality.
HJarrs, Now the buses are using both lanes and with taxi use up 40 per cent and 550 student cars are being introduced at the Barracks, it is a compete and utter waste of money which could have Been achieved with a traffic order creating an inside bus lane.
I repeatedly posted about the lack of strategic planning by this council is creating vast amounts of waste.
It's inexperience and pigheadedness but this particular council, examples being the light up bus time table for the posh folk in Preston park and the electric car charging points which are unused which could only be used for these rich enough to buy a £20,000 electric car.
Utterly wasteful and shameful.
Give cheap/free travel to those seeking employment and in recognised training schemes or undertaking apprenticeships etc not kids. Prosperity and work can then be passed to kids in our city instead of vanity schemes for the transient uni population. As for the Lewes road, there was always a cycle lane there it was always good. The section which needed changing was the cycle pavement which was two way and too narrow and lead to a fatality at the uni. It's ironic that a cycle path lead to a fatality. HJarrs, Now the buses are using both lanes and with taxi use up 40 per cent and 550 student cars are being introduced at the Barracks, it is a compete and utter waste of money which could have Been achieved with a traffic order creating an inside bus lane. I repeatedly posted about the lack of strategic planning by this council is creating vast amounts of waste. It's inexperience and pigheadedness but this particular council, examples being the light up bus time table for the posh folk in Preston park and the electric car charging points which are unused which could only be used for these rich enough to buy a £20,000 electric car. Utterly wasteful and shameful. Maxwell's Ghost

4:20pm Sat 28 Dec 13

deanaprior says...

At least the Greens have a plan and despite not having a majority they've done alright..

Credit to the councilors on the other parties who vote for what they
believe is good for Brighton rather than just being partisan.

But I predict that Mr Morgan will be given a column in The Argus and won't say anything concrete about what he will do if elected or what he would do differently or anything really.

Mr Theobold will be given a column and it won't include the word privatisation.

But they need to sort out the rubbish collection if you want to find a bin lorry where I live you just need to follow the trail of trash they leave behind.
At least the Greens have a plan and despite not having a majority they've done alright.. Credit to the councilors on the other parties who vote for what they believe is good for Brighton rather than just being partisan. But I predict that Mr Morgan will be given a column in The Argus and won't say anything concrete about what he will do if elected or what he would do differently or anything really. Mr Theobold will be given a column and it won't include the word privatisation. But they need to sort out the rubbish collection if you want to find a bin lorry where I live you just need to follow the trail of trash they leave behind. deanaprior

6:06pm Sat 28 Dec 13

HJarrs says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Give cheap/free travel to those seeking employment and in recognised training schemes or undertaking apprenticeships etc not kids. Prosperity and work can then be passed to kids in our city instead of vanity schemes for the transient uni population.
As for the Lewes road, there was always a cycle lane there it was always good. The section which needed changing was the cycle pavement which was two way and too narrow and lead to a fatality at the uni. It's ironic that a cycle path lead to a fatality.
HJarrs, Now the buses are using both lanes and with taxi use up 40 per cent and 550 student cars are being introduced at the Barracks, it is a compete and utter waste of money which could have Been achieved with a traffic order creating an inside bus lane.
I repeatedly posted about the lack of strategic planning by this council is creating vast amounts of waste.
It's inexperience and pigheadedness but this particular council, examples being the light up bus time table for the posh folk in Preston park and the electric car charging points which are unused which could only be used for these rich enough to buy a £20,000 electric car.
Utterly wasteful and shameful.
I don't know whether there is already a scheme to aid job seekers with bus fares. If they did so, you would complain about subsidy of a private monopoly as you have consistently complained many times. Not a bad idea though.

It is not ironic a cycle path led to a death, it was negligent design. I am glad that finally you accept something had to be done. The cycle path did not encourage that many people to adopt cycling, the new route is far superior and the works are showing a move to public transport and cycling, something that will increase once the Gyratory is modified (the 3rd battle of Lewes Rd is coming). Taxi use is up but there are 1750 fewer vehicle journeys per day including taxis. The development of around 1700 households and student flats will ONLY have 550 parking spaces. Such a low number was only practicable due to good public transport links and decent cycle path. No doubt it will result in some car use but I bet this will be against a general trend of falling car use on the Lewes Rd.

You have indeed repeatedly posted about a lack of strategic thinking, yet the Lewes rd cycle and bus routes will connect directly into a wider network of developments at Victoria Gardens, Edward St etc. It looks like we actually have a strategy for the first time since dumping building ever more roads in the 80s.

I know you are obsessed about this bush shelter and electric cars, but improving all aspects of public transport and providing infrastructure for electric vehicles is the future whether you like it or not and is being slowly rolled out across the country.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Give cheap/free travel to those seeking employment and in recognised training schemes or undertaking apprenticeships etc not kids. Prosperity and work can then be passed to kids in our city instead of vanity schemes for the transient uni population. As for the Lewes road, there was always a cycle lane there it was always good. The section which needed changing was the cycle pavement which was two way and too narrow and lead to a fatality at the uni. It's ironic that a cycle path lead to a fatality. HJarrs, Now the buses are using both lanes and with taxi use up 40 per cent and 550 student cars are being introduced at the Barracks, it is a compete and utter waste of money which could have Been achieved with a traffic order creating an inside bus lane. I repeatedly posted about the lack of strategic planning by this council is creating vast amounts of waste. It's inexperience and pigheadedness but this particular council, examples being the light up bus time table for the posh folk in Preston park and the electric car charging points which are unused which could only be used for these rich enough to buy a £20,000 electric car. Utterly wasteful and shameful.[/p][/quote]I don't know whether there is already a scheme to aid job seekers with bus fares. If they did so, you would complain about subsidy of a private monopoly as you have consistently complained many times. Not a bad idea though. It is not ironic a cycle path led to a death, it was negligent design. I am glad that finally you accept something had to be done. The cycle path did not encourage that many people to adopt cycling, the new route is far superior and the works are showing a move to public transport and cycling, something that will increase once the Gyratory is modified (the 3rd battle of Lewes Rd is coming). Taxi use is up but there are 1750 fewer vehicle journeys per day including taxis. The development of around 1700 households and student flats will ONLY have 550 parking spaces. Such a low number was only practicable due to good public transport links and decent cycle path. No doubt it will result in some car use but I bet this will be against a general trend of falling car use on the Lewes Rd. You have indeed repeatedly posted about a lack of strategic thinking, yet the Lewes rd cycle and bus routes will connect directly into a wider network of developments at Victoria Gardens, Edward St etc. It looks like we actually have a strategy for the first time since dumping building ever more roads in the 80s. I know you are obsessed about this bush shelter and electric cars, but improving all aspects of public transport and providing infrastructure for electric vehicles is the future whether you like it or not and is being slowly rolled out across the country. HJarrs

6:18pm Sat 28 Dec 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Give cheap/free travel to those seeking employment and in recognised training schemes or undertaking apprenticeships etc not kids. Prosperity and work can then be passed to kids in our city instead of vanity schemes for the transient uni population.
As for the Lewes road, there was always a cycle lane there it was always good. The section which needed changing was the cycle pavement which was two way and too narrow and lead to a fatality at the uni. It's ironic that a cycle path lead to a fatality.
HJarrs, Now the buses are using both lanes and with taxi use up 40 per cent and 550 student cars are being introduced at the Barracks, it is a compete and utter waste of money which could have Been achieved with a traffic order creating an inside bus lane.
I repeatedly posted about the lack of strategic planning by this council is creating vast amounts of waste.
It's inexperience and pigheadedness but this particular council, examples being the light up bus time table for the posh folk in Preston park and the electric car charging points which are unused which could only be used for these rich enough to buy a £20,000 electric car.
Utterly wasteful and shameful.
I don't know whether there is already a scheme to aid job seekers with bus fares. If they did so, you would complain about subsidy of a private monopoly as you have consistently complained many times. Not a bad idea though.

It is not ironic a cycle path led to a death, it was negligent design. I am glad that finally you accept something had to be done. The cycle path did not encourage that many people to adopt cycling, the new route is far superior and the works are showing a move to public transport and cycling, something that will increase once the Gyratory is modified (the 3rd battle of Lewes Rd is coming). Taxi use is up but there are 1750 fewer vehicle journeys per day including taxis. The development of around 1700 households and student flats will ONLY have 550 parking spaces. Such a low number was only practicable due to good public transport links and decent cycle path. No doubt it will result in some car use but I bet this will be against a general trend of falling car use on the Lewes Rd.

You have indeed repeatedly posted about a lack of strategic thinking, yet the Lewes rd cycle and bus routes will connect directly into a wider network of developments at Victoria Gardens, Edward St etc. It looks like we actually have a strategy for the first time since dumping building ever more roads in the 80s.

I know you are obsessed about this bush shelter and electric cars, but improving all aspects of public transport and providing infrastructure for electric vehicles is the future whether you like it or not and is being slowly rolled out across the country.
HJ - I don;t know whether you are telling lies or spinning, the complex web of deceit is even confusing fellow Green supporters
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Give cheap/free travel to those seeking employment and in recognised training schemes or undertaking apprenticeships etc not kids. Prosperity and work can then be passed to kids in our city instead of vanity schemes for the transient uni population. As for the Lewes road, there was always a cycle lane there it was always good. The section which needed changing was the cycle pavement which was two way and too narrow and lead to a fatality at the uni. It's ironic that a cycle path lead to a fatality. HJarrs, Now the buses are using both lanes and with taxi use up 40 per cent and 550 student cars are being introduced at the Barracks, it is a compete and utter waste of money which could have Been achieved with a traffic order creating an inside bus lane. I repeatedly posted about the lack of strategic planning by this council is creating vast amounts of waste. It's inexperience and pigheadedness but this particular council, examples being the light up bus time table for the posh folk in Preston park and the electric car charging points which are unused which could only be used for these rich enough to buy a £20,000 electric car. Utterly wasteful and shameful.[/p][/quote]I don't know whether there is already a scheme to aid job seekers with bus fares. If they did so, you would complain about subsidy of a private monopoly as you have consistently complained many times. Not a bad idea though. It is not ironic a cycle path led to a death, it was negligent design. I am glad that finally you accept something had to be done. The cycle path did not encourage that many people to adopt cycling, the new route is far superior and the works are showing a move to public transport and cycling, something that will increase once the Gyratory is modified (the 3rd battle of Lewes Rd is coming). Taxi use is up but there are 1750 fewer vehicle journeys per day including taxis. The development of around 1700 households and student flats will ONLY have 550 parking spaces. Such a low number was only practicable due to good public transport links and decent cycle path. No doubt it will result in some car use but I bet this will be against a general trend of falling car use on the Lewes Rd. You have indeed repeatedly posted about a lack of strategic thinking, yet the Lewes rd cycle and bus routes will connect directly into a wider network of developments at Victoria Gardens, Edward St etc. It looks like we actually have a strategy for the first time since dumping building ever more roads in the 80s. I know you are obsessed about this bush shelter and electric cars, but improving all aspects of public transport and providing infrastructure for electric vehicles is the future whether you like it or not and is being slowly rolled out across the country.[/p][/quote]HJ - I don;t know whether you are telling lies or spinning, the complex web of deceit is even confusing fellow Green supporters I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

7:04pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Rubbish HJarrs. The routes don't link to each other. There are bits of lane here and there, crossing roads ending up on the wrong side of the street to where you want to be, you end up trapped behind railings having to use busy pedestrian pavements and crossings. The Level and Victoria Gardens sections are awful. Most commuting cyclists stay on the roads. You watch them.
Then we have the lanes which have vehicles parked in them, walkers in them, kids on scooters, dogs running across them. Look at the Lewes Road lane. Pointless and dangerous.
As for the seafront lane it is shockingly narrow in places and I'm surprised someone hasn't been killed. Then there's the dog walkers and tourists who just walk into your path. As you know I broke my collar bone along here and have never used it since. Check out the bit near the Metropole. My wife refuses to use it because she says high speed male cyclists hog the lane pushing the more timid riders into the pedestrian walkway. Dangerous.
Then you have the road surfaces. Appalling, take a look at the upper Lewes road and the road at the bottom of Southover Street. Dangerous.
During winter, when it snows, the cycle lanes are also rendered useless as the snow is packed into the lanes which aren't gritted. Last year I lost a month because the council weren't interested in sustainable transport. It's just a word and a tick box activity to keep people like you happy.
Things haven't got better for cyclists, you put bus stops behind the cycle lane, that was it. It made buses late and now they are back to using both lanes.
What a waste of money.
HJarrs, looking at routes on paper may tick your PR box for political purposes but the reality of using the roads and 'network' is a less than attractive prospect.
I have cycled all over the world and only Italian cities are as bad as Brighton and Hove, similar topography, poor roads and bad parking. The only difference is that I have yet to encounter a 47kmh south westerly on the Italian Coast while on a bike.
Rubbish HJarrs. The routes don't link to each other. There are bits of lane here and there, crossing roads ending up on the wrong side of the street to where you want to be, you end up trapped behind railings having to use busy pedestrian pavements and crossings. The Level and Victoria Gardens sections are awful. Most commuting cyclists stay on the roads. You watch them. Then we have the lanes which have vehicles parked in them, walkers in them, kids on scooters, dogs running across them. Look at the Lewes Road lane. Pointless and dangerous. As for the seafront lane it is shockingly narrow in places and I'm surprised someone hasn't been killed. Then there's the dog walkers and tourists who just walk into your path. As you know I broke my collar bone along here and have never used it since. Check out the bit near the Metropole. My wife refuses to use it because she says high speed male cyclists hog the lane pushing the more timid riders into the pedestrian walkway. Dangerous. Then you have the road surfaces. Appalling, take a look at the upper Lewes road and the road at the bottom of Southover Street. Dangerous. During winter, when it snows, the cycle lanes are also rendered useless as the snow is packed into the lanes which aren't gritted. Last year I lost a month because the council weren't interested in sustainable transport. It's just a word and a tick box activity to keep people like you happy. Things haven't got better for cyclists, you put bus stops behind the cycle lane, that was it. It made buses late and now they are back to using both lanes. What a waste of money. HJarrs, looking at routes on paper may tick your PR box for political purposes but the reality of using the roads and 'network' is a less than attractive prospect. I have cycled all over the world and only Italian cities are as bad as Brighton and Hove, similar topography, poor roads and bad parking. The only difference is that I have yet to encounter a 47kmh south westerly on the Italian Coast while on a bike. Maxwell's Ghost

7:14pm Sat 28 Dec 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Give cheap/free travel to those seeking employment and in recognised training schemes or undertaking apprenticeships etc not kids. Prosperity and work can then be passed to kids in our city instead of vanity schemes for the transient uni population.
As for the Lewes road, there was always a cycle lane there it was always good. The section which needed changing was the cycle pavement which was two way and too narrow and lead to a fatality at the uni. It's ironic that a cycle path lead to a fatality.
HJarrs, Now the buses are using both lanes and with taxi use up 40 per cent and 550 student cars are being introduced at the Barracks, it is a compete and utter waste of money which could have Been achieved with a traffic order creating an inside bus lane.
I repeatedly posted about the lack of strategic planning by this council is creating vast amounts of waste.
It's inexperience and pigheadedness but this particular council, examples being the light up bus time table for the posh folk in Preston park and the electric car charging points which are unused which could only be used for these rich enough to buy a £20,000 electric car.
Utterly wasteful and shameful.
I don't know whether there is already a scheme to aid job seekers with bus fares. If they did so, you would complain about subsidy of a private monopoly as you have consistently complained many times. Not a bad idea though.

It is not ironic a cycle path led to a death, it was negligent design. I am glad that finally you accept something had to be done. The cycle path did not encourage that many people to adopt cycling, the new route is far superior and the works are showing a move to public transport and cycling, something that will increase once the Gyratory is modified (the 3rd battle of Lewes Rd is coming). Taxi use is up but there are 1750 fewer vehicle journeys per day including taxis. The development of around 1700 households and student flats will ONLY have 550 parking spaces. Such a low number was only practicable due to good public transport links and decent cycle path. No doubt it will result in some car use but I bet this will be against a general trend of falling car use on the Lewes Rd.

You have indeed repeatedly posted about a lack of strategic thinking, yet the Lewes rd cycle and bus routes will connect directly into a wider network of developments at Victoria Gardens, Edward St etc. It looks like we actually have a strategy for the first time since dumping building ever more roads in the 80s.

I know you are obsessed about this bush shelter and electric cars, but improving all aspects of public transport and providing infrastructure for electric vehicles is the future whether you like it or not and is being slowly rolled out across the country.
HJ - I don;t know whether you are telling lies or spinning, the complex web of deceit is even confusing fellow Green supporters
And when I read the truth posted by others HJ, I am wondering whether you have even been to Brighton... have you?
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Give cheap/free travel to those seeking employment and in recognised training schemes or undertaking apprenticeships etc not kids. Prosperity and work can then be passed to kids in our city instead of vanity schemes for the transient uni population. As for the Lewes road, there was always a cycle lane there it was always good. The section which needed changing was the cycle pavement which was two way and too narrow and lead to a fatality at the uni. It's ironic that a cycle path lead to a fatality. HJarrs, Now the buses are using both lanes and with taxi use up 40 per cent and 550 student cars are being introduced at the Barracks, it is a compete and utter waste of money which could have Been achieved with a traffic order creating an inside bus lane. I repeatedly posted about the lack of strategic planning by this council is creating vast amounts of waste. It's inexperience and pigheadedness but this particular council, examples being the light up bus time table for the posh folk in Preston park and the electric car charging points which are unused which could only be used for these rich enough to buy a £20,000 electric car. Utterly wasteful and shameful.[/p][/quote]I don't know whether there is already a scheme to aid job seekers with bus fares. If they did so, you would complain about subsidy of a private monopoly as you have consistently complained many times. Not a bad idea though. It is not ironic a cycle path led to a death, it was negligent design. I am glad that finally you accept something had to be done. The cycle path did not encourage that many people to adopt cycling, the new route is far superior and the works are showing a move to public transport and cycling, something that will increase once the Gyratory is modified (the 3rd battle of Lewes Rd is coming). Taxi use is up but there are 1750 fewer vehicle journeys per day including taxis. The development of around 1700 households and student flats will ONLY have 550 parking spaces. Such a low number was only practicable due to good public transport links and decent cycle path. No doubt it will result in some car use but I bet this will be against a general trend of falling car use on the Lewes Rd. You have indeed repeatedly posted about a lack of strategic thinking, yet the Lewes rd cycle and bus routes will connect directly into a wider network of developments at Victoria Gardens, Edward St etc. It looks like we actually have a strategy for the first time since dumping building ever more roads in the 80s. I know you are obsessed about this bush shelter and electric cars, but improving all aspects of public transport and providing infrastructure for electric vehicles is the future whether you like it or not and is being slowly rolled out across the country.[/p][/quote]HJ - I don;t know whether you are telling lies or spinning, the complex web of deceit is even confusing fellow Green supporters[/p][/quote]And when I read the truth posted by others HJ, I am wondering whether you have even been to Brighton... have you? I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

7:15pm Sat 28 Dec 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Give cheap/free travel to those seeking employment and in recognised training schemes or undertaking apprenticeships etc not kids. Prosperity and work can then be passed to kids in our city instead of vanity schemes for the transient uni population.
As for the Lewes road, there was always a cycle lane there it was always good. The section which needed changing was the cycle pavement which was two way and too narrow and lead to a fatality at the uni. It's ironic that a cycle path lead to a fatality.
HJarrs, Now the buses are using both lanes and with taxi use up 40 per cent and 550 student cars are being introduced at the Barracks, it is a compete and utter waste of money which could have Been achieved with a traffic order creating an inside bus lane.
I repeatedly posted about the lack of strategic planning by this council is creating vast amounts of waste.
It's inexperience and pigheadedness but this particular council, examples being the light up bus time table for the posh folk in Preston park and the electric car charging points which are unused which could only be used for these rich enough to buy a £20,000 electric car.
Utterly wasteful and shameful.
I don't know whether there is already a scheme to aid job seekers with bus fares. If they did so, you would complain about subsidy of a private monopoly as you have consistently complained many times. Not a bad idea though.

It is not ironic a cycle path led to a death, it was negligent design. I am glad that finally you accept something had to be done. The cycle path did not encourage that many people to adopt cycling, the new route is far superior and the works are showing a move to public transport and cycling, something that will increase once the Gyratory is modified (the 3rd battle of Lewes Rd is coming). Taxi use is up but there are 1750 fewer vehicle journeys per day including taxis. The development of around 1700 households and student flats will ONLY have 550 parking spaces. Such a low number was only practicable due to good public transport links and decent cycle path. No doubt it will result in some car use but I bet this will be against a general trend of falling car use on the Lewes Rd.

You have indeed repeatedly posted about a lack of strategic thinking, yet the Lewes rd cycle and bus routes will connect directly into a wider network of developments at Victoria Gardens, Edward St etc. It looks like we actually have a strategy for the first time since dumping building ever more roads in the 80s.

I know you are obsessed about this bush shelter and electric cars, but improving all aspects of public transport and providing infrastructure for electric vehicles is the future whether you like it or not and is being slowly rolled out across the country.
HJ - I don;t know whether you are telling lies or spinning, the complex web of deceit is even confusing fellow Green supporters
And when I read the truth posted by others HJ, I am wondering whether you have even been to Brighton... have you?
Sorry, I should have said, HJ can you be honest when you answer my previous question please?
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Give cheap/free travel to those seeking employment and in recognised training schemes or undertaking apprenticeships etc not kids. Prosperity and work can then be passed to kids in our city instead of vanity schemes for the transient uni population. As for the Lewes road, there was always a cycle lane there it was always good. The section which needed changing was the cycle pavement which was two way and too narrow and lead to a fatality at the uni. It's ironic that a cycle path lead to a fatality. HJarrs, Now the buses are using both lanes and with taxi use up 40 per cent and 550 student cars are being introduced at the Barracks, it is a compete and utter waste of money which could have Been achieved with a traffic order creating an inside bus lane. I repeatedly posted about the lack of strategic planning by this council is creating vast amounts of waste. It's inexperience and pigheadedness but this particular council, examples being the light up bus time table for the posh folk in Preston park and the electric car charging points which are unused which could only be used for these rich enough to buy a £20,000 electric car. Utterly wasteful and shameful.[/p][/quote]I don't know whether there is already a scheme to aid job seekers with bus fares. If they did so, you would complain about subsidy of a private monopoly as you have consistently complained many times. Not a bad idea though. It is not ironic a cycle path led to a death, it was negligent design. I am glad that finally you accept something had to be done. The cycle path did not encourage that many people to adopt cycling, the new route is far superior and the works are showing a move to public transport and cycling, something that will increase once the Gyratory is modified (the 3rd battle of Lewes Rd is coming). Taxi use is up but there are 1750 fewer vehicle journeys per day including taxis. The development of around 1700 households and student flats will ONLY have 550 parking spaces. Such a low number was only practicable due to good public transport links and decent cycle path. No doubt it will result in some car use but I bet this will be against a general trend of falling car use on the Lewes Rd. You have indeed repeatedly posted about a lack of strategic thinking, yet the Lewes rd cycle and bus routes will connect directly into a wider network of developments at Victoria Gardens, Edward St etc. It looks like we actually have a strategy for the first time since dumping building ever more roads in the 80s. I know you are obsessed about this bush shelter and electric cars, but improving all aspects of public transport and providing infrastructure for electric vehicles is the future whether you like it or not and is being slowly rolled out across the country.[/p][/quote]HJ - I don;t know whether you are telling lies or spinning, the complex web of deceit is even confusing fellow Green supporters[/p][/quote]And when I read the truth posted by others HJ, I am wondering whether you have even been to Brighton... have you?[/p][/quote]Sorry, I should have said, HJ can you be honest when you answer my previous question please? I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

7:41pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Only 550 student car parking spaces. Only this council would give free parking to students on a road it has just turned into an anti car route.
And remember, these students don't pay council tax. Do you get the feeling the greens are screwing you?
Only 550 student car parking spaces. Only this council would give free parking to students on a road it has just turned into an anti car route. And remember, these students don't pay council tax. Do you get the feeling the greens are screwing you? Maxwell's Ghost

7:50pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Bob_The_Ferret says...

If the greens are really committed to helping the city flourish, they should resign as soon as possible!
If the greens are really committed to helping the city flourish, they should resign as soon as possible! Bob_The_Ferret

8:30pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Can anyone explain how someone, who permanently has his head rammed up his own backside, can look forward, or indeed in any direction, as Kitkat seems to be claiming.

It seems Green successes are so few and far between he has to claim involvement in things the Greens had no part of and reflected glory from well established annual events.
Can anyone explain how someone, who permanently has his head rammed up his own backside, can look forward, or indeed in any direction, as Kitkat seems to be claiming. It seems Green successes are so few and far between he has to claim involvement in things the Greens had no part of and reflected glory from well established annual events. Idontbelieveit1948

8:39pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Electric cars powered by electricity generated by coal power.
Electric cars powered by electricity generated by coal power. Maxwell's Ghost

7:23am Sun 29 Dec 13

HJarrs says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Electric cars powered by electricity generated by coal power.
Coal, gas, nuclear, renewables. Even so, well to wheel emissions are still lower than petrol engines. I accept that electric cars are only in the development stage; over the coming years their manufacture will become cheaper with less environmental impact. Also, compressed gas cars and Hybrids show great promise. What me amazes are the number of people that still buy large guzzling cars and 4x4s in a city so tight for parking and climate change having been in the public arena for over 20 years. I would agree that your Labour Party dragged their feet when in government with regards addressing our carbon addiction and the Tories want to dump any environmental commitments, thank goodness the Liberals keep them in check.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Electric cars powered by electricity generated by coal power.[/p][/quote]Coal, gas, nuclear, renewables. Even so, well to wheel emissions are still lower than petrol engines. I accept that electric cars are only in the development stage; over the coming years their manufacture will become cheaper with less environmental impact. Also, compressed gas cars and Hybrids show great promise. What me amazes are the number of people that still buy large guzzling cars and 4x4s in a city so tight for parking and climate change having been in the public arena for over 20 years. I would agree that your Labour Party dragged their feet when in government with regards addressing our carbon addiction and the Tories want to dump any environmental commitments, thank goodness the Liberals keep them in check. HJarrs

8:02am Sun 29 Dec 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Electric cars powered by electricity generated by coal power.
Coal, gas, nuclear, renewables. Even so, well to wheel emissions are still lower than petrol engines. I accept that electric cars are only in the development stage; over the coming years their manufacture will become cheaper with less environmental impact. Also, compressed gas cars and Hybrids show great promise. What me amazes are the number of people that still buy large guzzling cars and 4x4s in a city so tight for parking and climate change having been in the public arena for over 20 years. I would agree that your Labour Party dragged their feet when in government with regards addressing our carbon addiction and the Tories want to dump any environmental commitments, thank goodness the Liberals keep them in check.
Quite by coincidence HJ I am just about to place an order for one of the big gas guzzlers you mention. But then I am a green and its do what I say not what I do, yes?

Going for an M5 and convinced girlfriend that we should keep M3 and let go of the runaround.

we are Green
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Electric cars powered by electricity generated by coal power.[/p][/quote]Coal, gas, nuclear, renewables. Even so, well to wheel emissions are still lower than petrol engines. I accept that electric cars are only in the development stage; over the coming years their manufacture will become cheaper with less environmental impact. Also, compressed gas cars and Hybrids show great promise. What me amazes are the number of people that still buy large guzzling cars and 4x4s in a city so tight for parking and climate change having been in the public arena for over 20 years. I would agree that your Labour Party dragged their feet when in government with regards addressing our carbon addiction and the Tories want to dump any environmental commitments, thank goodness the Liberals keep them in check.[/p][/quote]Quite by coincidence HJ I am just about to place an order for one of the big gas guzzlers you mention. But then I am a green and its do what I say not what I do, yes? Going for an M5 and convinced girlfriend that we should keep M3 and let go of the runaround. we are Green I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

9:52am Sun 29 Dec 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

My wife has a hybrid so why is your party still punishing he for using it?
My wife has a hybrid so why is your party still punishing he for using it? Maxwell's Ghost

11:03am Sun 29 Dec 13

Herbert Perkins says...

Gas-guzzlers and 4x4s in driveways of houses proudly displaying green party posters...including kitcat's own..
Gas-guzzlers and 4x4s in driveways of houses proudly displaying green party posters...including kitcat's own.. Herbert Perkins

11:21am Sun 29 Dec 13

Maxwell's Ghost says...

And why did the former Green mayor Bill Randall say in an Argus interview that he drove the freebie mayoral car to London and Bexhill?
Despite the numerous. Green Party members posting on here, not one has answered this question.
Who on earth drives to London?
And why did the former Green mayor Bill Randall say in an Argus interview that he drove the freebie mayoral car to London and Bexhill? Despite the numerous. Green Party members posting on here, not one has answered this question. Who on earth drives to London? Maxwell's Ghost

3:44pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
And why did the former Green mayor Bill Randall say in an Argus interview that he drove the freebie mayoral car to London and Bexhill?
Despite the numerous. Green Party members posting on here, not one has answered this question.
Who on earth drives to London?
Hi Maxwell, to answer your last question - probably H Jarrs !
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: And why did the former Green mayor Bill Randall say in an Argus interview that he drove the freebie mayoral car to London and Bexhill? Despite the numerous. Green Party members posting on here, not one has answered this question. Who on earth drives to London?[/p][/quote]Hi Maxwell, to answer your last question - probably H Jarrs ! Idontbelieveit1948

10:40pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Bill in Hanover says...

hyram77 wrote:
I tend to agree with Mr Kitkat, the city will flourish during 2014 due to an improving economy and the desire for people to live and holiday in the city. I have been impressed with the ultra fast broadband and think being able to pay by phone for parking is a great idea. However, how much of the forthcoming success will be down to the Green Party is up for debate. Having more people walking and taking the bus doesn't pay the bills!
I imagine that the pay by 'phone is a great idea, for the Council that is, considering that two weeks ago anyone using the system was charged 3 times what they should have paid and only last week many peoiple were issued parking tickets because they thought they'd paid by 'phone but as the system was down they weren't covered and parking wardens, although they were aware of the outage still insisted on booking them..
[quote][p][bold]hyram77[/bold] wrote: I tend to agree with Mr Kitkat, the city will flourish during 2014 due to an improving economy and the desire for people to live and holiday in the city. I have been impressed with the ultra fast broadband and think being able to pay by phone for parking is a great idea. However, how much of the forthcoming success will be down to the Green Party is up for debate. Having more people walking and taking the bus doesn't pay the bills![/p][/quote]I imagine that the pay by 'phone is a great idea, for the Council that is, considering that two weeks ago anyone using the system was charged 3 times what they should have paid and only last week many peoiple were issued parking tickets because they thought they'd paid by 'phone but as the system was down they weren't covered and parking wardens, although they were aware of the outage still insisted on booking them.. Bill in Hanover

10:43pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Bill in Hanover says...

Herbert Perkins wrote:
Gas-guzzlers and 4x4s in driveways of houses proudly displaying green party posters...including kitcat's own..
Many 4x4's are fairly economical, even the top of the heap Range Rover returns more than 30 mpg and the new one is an electric hybrid, mind you it would cost you £114,000 to buy one.
[quote][p][bold]Herbert Perkins[/bold] wrote: Gas-guzzlers and 4x4s in driveways of houses proudly displaying green party posters...including kitcat's own..[/p][/quote]Many 4x4's are fairly economical, even the top of the heap Range Rover returns more than 30 mpg and the new one is an electric hybrid, mind you it would cost you £114,000 to buy one. Bill in Hanover

1:10am Mon 30 Dec 13

Gribbet says...

I think there the thousands upon thousands of both residents and visitors who enjoyed the long hot summer on the beach at weekends and after work, in the parks, strolling round town, cycling, swimming, jogging at sunset along the seafront, being active outdoors, eating and drinking in the sun with friends may actually be under the impression that Brighton flourished in 2013.
I think there the thousands upon thousands of both residents and visitors who enjoyed the long hot summer on the beach at weekends and after work, in the parks, strolling round town, cycling, swimming, jogging at sunset along the seafront, being active outdoors, eating and drinking in the sun with friends may actually be under the impression that Brighton flourished in 2013. Gribbet

7:07am Mon 30 Dec 13

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

Gribbet wrote:
I think there the thousands upon thousands of both residents and visitors who enjoyed the long hot summer on the beach at weekends and after work, in the parks, strolling round town, cycling, swimming, jogging at sunset along the seafront, being active outdoors, eating and drinking in the sun with friends may actually be under the impression that Brighton flourished in 2013.
Then of course there are the people who have actually lived in Brighton and experienced the reality of the decline created by the Green party. The people who can see past the incompetence and spin used to try to cover up.

The reality is bleak and we as a city are being held back by the Greens.
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: I think there the thousands upon thousands of both residents and visitors who enjoyed the long hot summer on the beach at weekends and after work, in the parks, strolling round town, cycling, swimming, jogging at sunset along the seafront, being active outdoors, eating and drinking in the sun with friends may actually be under the impression that Brighton flourished in 2013.[/p][/quote]Then of course there are the people who have actually lived in Brighton and experienced the reality of the decline created by the Green party. The people who can see past the incompetence and spin used to try to cover up. The reality is bleak and we as a city are being held back by the Greens. I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!

7:28am Mon 30 Dec 13

fred clause says...

When I read the headline I thought it meant KitKat and his egotistical party were going to resign,sadly this is not the case so as everyone without green blinkers knows our fine City will continue to go downhill fast.
When I read the headline I thought it meant KitKat and his egotistical party were going to resign,sadly this is not the case so as everyone without green blinkers knows our fine City will continue to go downhill fast. fred clause

10:41am Mon 30 Dec 13

DrJetty says...

Thank god the clock is ticking down to election time, in 70 odd weeks we will say goodbye and good riddance to one of the worst sitting councils the Brighton area has ever had. The single policy green party in Brighton & Hove will be no more, the greens have left local residents and businesses in despair from this bunch of novices playing at politics. The greens single minded ideology, half baked policies and schemes have now made them unelectable in this city, this era in local politics will go down in history as an utter failure. The green councillors will voted out, they will be able to go and live in their straw bale homes warmed by the methane generated by their own by-products; one of the biggest pluses of not having a green council is, we wont have to see a picture of Kitkat's smug face on the top of the councils propaganda any more.
Thank god the clock is ticking down to election time, in 70 odd weeks we will say goodbye and good riddance to one of the worst sitting councils the Brighton area has ever had. The single policy green party in Brighton & Hove will be no more, the greens have left local residents and businesses in despair from this bunch of novices playing at politics. The greens single minded ideology, half baked policies and schemes have now made them unelectable in this city, this era in local politics will go down in history as an utter failure. The green councillors will voted out, they will be able to go and live in their straw bale homes warmed by the methane generated by their own by-products; one of the biggest pluses of not having a green council is, we wont have to see a picture of Kitkat's smug face on the top of the councils propaganda any more. DrJetty

10:47am Mon 30 Dec 13

Mark63 says...

Apart from the fact he looks like his mum has dressed him, the City (can we really use that term when visitors are directed to the 'Town Centre' 13 years after us getting City status)... can only flourish after the next local elections when this one-policy party is thrown out!
Apart from the fact he looks like his mum has dressed him, the City (can we really use that term when visitors are directed to the 'Town Centre' 13 years after us getting City status)... can only flourish after the next local elections when this one-policy party is thrown out! Mark63

10:49am Mon 30 Dec 13

Ambo Guy says...

HJarrs wrote:
With regard to my initial comment, I notice that the design for the Lewes Rd Gyratory has been published in the B&H independent. That will give you moaners something to get your teeth into!
The problem is that you, along with being the biggest moaner on here, are a liar.

You come one here spouting lies and more lies and nobody likes a liar. You're not even a good liar and people see through you so easily. I hope that in 2014 you at least try to be a bit more honest.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: With regard to my initial comment, I notice that the design for the Lewes Rd Gyratory has been published in the B&H independent. That will give you moaners something to get your teeth into![/p][/quote]The problem is that you, along with being the biggest moaner on here, are a liar. You come one here spouting lies and more lies and nobody likes a liar. You're not even a good liar and people see through you so easily. I hope that in 2014 you at least try to be a bit more honest. Ambo Guy

11:24am Mon 30 Dec 13

Gribbet says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
I think there the thousands upon thousands of both residents and visitors who enjoyed the long hot summer on the beach at weekends and after work, in the parks, strolling round town, cycling, swimming, jogging at sunset along the seafront, being active outdoors, eating and drinking in the sun with friends may actually be under the impression that Brighton flourished in 2013.
Then of course there are the people who have actually lived in Brighton and experienced the reality of the decline created by the Green party. The people who can see past the incompetence and spin used to try to cover up.

The reality is bleak and we as a city are being held back by the Greens.
Apart from the road layouts being tweaked, what kind of decline are you talking about?
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: I think there the thousands upon thousands of both residents and visitors who enjoyed the long hot summer on the beach at weekends and after work, in the parks, strolling round town, cycling, swimming, jogging at sunset along the seafront, being active outdoors, eating and drinking in the sun with friends may actually be under the impression that Brighton flourished in 2013.[/p][/quote]Then of course there are the people who have actually lived in Brighton and experienced the reality of the decline created by the Green party. The people who can see past the incompetence and spin used to try to cover up. The reality is bleak and we as a city are being held back by the Greens.[/p][/quote]Apart from the road layouts being tweaked, what kind of decline are you talking about? Gribbet

12:12pm Mon 30 Dec 13

ARMANA says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Electric cars powered by electricity generated by coal power.
Coal, gas, nuclear, renewables. Even so, well to wheel emissions are still lower than petrol engines. I accept that electric cars are only in the development stage; over the coming years their manufacture will become cheaper with less environmental impact. Also, compressed gas cars and Hybrids show great promise. What me amazes are the number of people that still buy large guzzling cars and 4x4s in a city so tight for parking and climate change having been in the public arena for over 20 years. I would agree that your Labour Party dragged their feet when in government with regards addressing our carbon addiction and the Tories want to dump any environmental commitments, thank goodness the Liberals keep them in check.
Quite by coincidence HJ I am just about to place an order for one of the big gas guzzlers you mention. But then I am a green and its do what I say not what I do, yes?

Going for an M5 and convinced girlfriend that we should keep M3 and let go of the runaround.

we are Green
You can say that again, Gatling Gob, !!!
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Electric cars powered by electricity generated by coal power.[/p][/quote]Coal, gas, nuclear, renewables. Even so, well to wheel emissions are still lower than petrol engines. I accept that electric cars are only in the development stage; over the coming years their manufacture will become cheaper with less environmental impact. Also, compressed gas cars and Hybrids show great promise. What me amazes are the number of people that still buy large guzzling cars and 4x4s in a city so tight for parking and climate change having been in the public arena for over 20 years. I would agree that your Labour Party dragged their feet when in government with regards addressing our carbon addiction and the Tories want to dump any environmental commitments, thank goodness the Liberals keep them in check.[/p][/quote]Quite by coincidence HJ I am just about to place an order for one of the big gas guzzlers you mention. But then I am a green and its do what I say not what I do, yes? Going for an M5 and convinced girlfriend that we should keep M3 and let go of the runaround. we are Green[/p][/quote]You can say that again, Gatling Gob, !!! ARMANA

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