Brighton Station revamp begins

Brighton Station revamp begins

Brighton Station revamp begins

First published in News

Major work to revamp the area around busy Brighton Station has begun with railings erected around one of the roads leading up to it.

The barriers in Surrey Street are to remain until March as part of the Brighton and Hove City Council proposal.

The scheme will see new paving, a wider footway, road resurfacing and tree planting take place.

While Surrey Street is closed the contra-flow lane in Queen’s Road will be re-opened for northbound buses, taxis and cycles.

All other traffic except HGVs will be re-directed along Upper Gloucester Road and Buckingham Road. HGVs will be directed along North Road and the A23.

The existing ban on right-turns from Terminus Road into Guildford Road will be suspended, enabling access to Guildford Street and New Dorset Street from the west.

For more details visit www.brighton- hove.gov.uk/station-gateway or call 01273 294164.

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11:18am Wed 8 Jan 14

paul76 says...

More traffic delays then when completed. Surely most people walk up and down Queens Road when using the station. Making Surrey Street narrower will lead to delays as it is likely to be one lane instead of two, and everyone will be stuck behind the god aweful buses, unless they are permantly allowed north bound at top of Queens Road by the traffic lights.

Notification of the road closure is also very poorly sign posted. When I got to the traffic lights on my motorbike yesterday evening, there is a sign just saying road closed. It doesn't say which one, and it is not possible to see clearly round the corner as to which road it is, so I ended up going up Queens Road with the buses, assuming this was the correct way to go as the barrier that used to be across the road had been moved.

I wonder if i will receive a fine in the post for that?
More traffic delays then when completed. Surely most people walk up and down Queens Road when using the station. Making Surrey Street narrower will lead to delays as it is likely to be one lane instead of two, and everyone will be stuck behind the god aweful buses, unless they are permantly allowed north bound at top of Queens Road by the traffic lights. Notification of the road closure is also very poorly sign posted. When I got to the traffic lights on my motorbike yesterday evening, there is a sign just saying road closed. It doesn't say which one, and it is not possible to see clearly round the corner as to which road it is, so I ended up going up Queens Road with the buses, assuming this was the correct way to go as the barrier that used to be across the road had been moved. I wonder if i will receive a fine in the post for that? paul76
  • Score: -2

11:54am Wed 8 Jan 14

Metro Reader says...

I am very worried at the amount of what the council (Green) call improvements. The number of road works over the past 18 months or so has led to widespread congestion and tail backs, with very little if any eventual benefit.

The way in to Brighton by road is almost impossible as is trying to leave; it seems that all the traffic is getting pushed on to less and less roads which again is leading to unnecessary congestion. (Lewis Road, Old Shoreham Road etc.)

My main worry is that not only are the road “improvements” causing congestion, the ridiculous, and unenforceable 20 mph speed limit is also.
I am sure that I read many months ago, before all the works started that the Greens wanted a congestion change for Brighton, how long before they try and introduce one? Which they will claim is to improve the air quality and also traffic flow; due to the level of congestion that they have caused. Travelling at 20 mph is not efficient and causes more pollution

Although it seems certain that the Greens will not be in power again after 2015, we need to ensure that the electorate of B&H does not become complacent in this thinking and actually get out and vote.

I cannot think of one improvement that the Greens have done for Brighton. Shame must also lay at the doors of Labour and Conservatives for letting a MINORITY party destroy the city, time they got some balls!
I am very worried at the amount of what the council (Green) call improvements. The number of road works over the past 18 months or so has led to widespread congestion and tail backs, with very little if any eventual benefit. The way in to Brighton by road is almost impossible as is trying to leave; it seems that all the traffic is getting pushed on to less and less roads which again is leading to unnecessary congestion. (Lewis Road, Old Shoreham Road etc.) My main worry is that not only are the road “improvements” causing congestion, the ridiculous, and unenforceable 20 mph speed limit is also. I am sure that I read many months ago, before all the works started that the Greens wanted a congestion change for Brighton, how long before they try and introduce one? Which they will claim is to improve the air quality and also traffic flow; due to the level of congestion that they have caused. Travelling at 20 mph is not efficient and causes more pollution Although it seems certain that the Greens will not be in power again after 2015, we need to ensure that the electorate of B&H does not become complacent in this thinking and actually get out and vote. I cannot think of one improvement that the Greens have done for Brighton. Shame must also lay at the doors of Labour and Conservatives for letting a MINORITY party destroy the city, time they got some balls! Metro Reader
  • Score: 15

12:41pm Wed 8 Jan 14

All 9 of me says...

stunning images ...
stunning images ... All 9 of me
  • Score: 10

1:16pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Eugenius says...

The first empirical data back from Lewes Road shows that the changes there are working well. Car journey times are taking a minute and a half longer southbound at rush hour (less of an impact than the model predicted), but no change northbound, bus journeys are a couple of minutes faster in both directions, bus passenger numbers are up by 7% and cyclists are up 14%. There are fewer vehicles overall but more taxis, that are now befitting from the express lanes.

Full report at http://www.brighton-
hove.gov.uk/lewesroa
d and there is a video from bus driver's perspective here http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=iW7hT6Ec1
18
The first empirical data back from Lewes Road shows that the changes there are working well. Car journey times are taking a minute and a half longer southbound at rush hour (less of an impact than the model predicted), but no change northbound, bus journeys are a couple of minutes faster in both directions, bus passenger numbers are up by 7% and cyclists are up 14%. There are fewer vehicles overall but more taxis, that are now befitting from the express lanes. Full report at http://www.brighton- hove.gov.uk/lewesroa d and there is a video from bus driver's perspective here http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=iW7hT6Ec1 18 Eugenius
  • Score: -15

1:27pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Eugenius says...

It's a myth that travelling at 20mph causes more air pollution. This stems from data in the early 1980s when engines were less efficient. Changing gear and breaking/acceleratin
g, the stop/start pattern when you have 30mph in residential areas, is less efficient and causes more pollution.

We expect to see more people cycling now that the roads are safer so hopefully we should see a gradual indirect improvement in air quality from changes in modes of transport.
It's a myth that travelling at 20mph causes more air pollution. This stems from data in the early 1980s when engines were less efficient. Changing gear and breaking/acceleratin g, the stop/start pattern when you have 30mph in residential areas, is less efficient and causes more pollution. We expect to see more people cycling now that the roads are safer so hopefully we should see a gradual indirect improvement in air quality from changes in modes of transport. Eugenius
  • Score: -15

2:03pm Wed 8 Jan 14

downbythesea says...

paul76 wrote:
More traffic delays then when completed. Surely most people walk up and down Queens Road when using the station. Making Surrey Street narrower will lead to delays as it is likely to be one lane instead of two, and everyone will be stuck behind the god aweful buses, unless they are permantly allowed north bound at top of Queens Road by the traffic lights.

Notification of the road closure is also very poorly sign posted. When I got to the traffic lights on my motorbike yesterday evening, there is a sign just saying road closed. It doesn't say which one, and it is not possible to see clearly round the corner as to which road it is, so I ended up going up Queens Road with the buses, assuming this was the correct way to go as the barrier that used to be across the road had been moved.

I wonder if i will receive a fine in the post for that?
There is a BIG yellow "bus only" sign right in front of you about 3 foot wide, you must have driven straight through without seeing it! How?

The road closed sign is to give you advance warning of a closure around the corner that you CAN'T see rather than you driving straight round at speed into a barrier, quite sensible in my opinion to have the sign where it is.

The scheme has been advertised since well before Christmas on both the council website and in The Argus, has been planned and consulted on since JANUARY 2013, a whole year ago...

In addition all houses in the local area had letters 2 weeks ago , I live in this area and it's about time this was started!

And no, I don't vote Snot Green!
[quote][p][bold]paul76[/bold] wrote: More traffic delays then when completed. Surely most people walk up and down Queens Road when using the station. Making Surrey Street narrower will lead to delays as it is likely to be one lane instead of two, and everyone will be stuck behind the god aweful buses, unless they are permantly allowed north bound at top of Queens Road by the traffic lights. Notification of the road closure is also very poorly sign posted. When I got to the traffic lights on my motorbike yesterday evening, there is a sign just saying road closed. It doesn't say which one, and it is not possible to see clearly round the corner as to which road it is, so I ended up going up Queens Road with the buses, assuming this was the correct way to go as the barrier that used to be across the road had been moved. I wonder if i will receive a fine in the post for that?[/p][/quote]There is a BIG yellow "bus only" sign right in front of you about 3 foot wide, you must have driven straight through without seeing it! How? The road closed sign is to give you advance warning of a closure around the corner that you CAN'T see rather than you driving straight round at speed into a barrier, quite sensible in my opinion to have the sign where it is. The scheme has been advertised since well before Christmas on both the council website and in The Argus, has been planned and consulted on since JANUARY 2013, a whole year ago... In addition all houses in the local area had letters 2 weeks ago , I live in this area and it's about time this was started! And no, I don't vote Snot Green! downbythesea
  • Score: 3

2:38pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Crystal Ball says...

Great photos of some concrete blocks and a shipping container.
Great photos of some concrete blocks and a shipping container. Crystal Ball
  • Score: 6

3:41pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

Eugenius wrote:
The first empirical data back from Lewes Road shows that the changes there are working well. Car journey times are taking a minute and a half longer southbound at rush hour (less of an impact than the model predicted), but no change northbound, bus journeys are a couple of minutes faster in both directions, bus passenger numbers are up by 7% and cyclists are up 14%. There are fewer vehicles overall but more taxis, that are now befitting from the express lanes.

Full report at http://www.brighton-

hove.gov.uk/lewesroa

d and there is a video from bus driver's perspective here http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=iW7hT6Ec1

18
Oh do shut up, you know as well as I do that your figures are completely manipulated, step out of ur shoe box and go live it for yourself then come and tell us journey times are hardly affected. You take data, spin it, manipulate it and spout nonsense. You have ruined Brighton, FACT
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: The first empirical data back from Lewes Road shows that the changes there are working well. Car journey times are taking a minute and a half longer southbound at rush hour (less of an impact than the model predicted), but no change northbound, bus journeys are a couple of minutes faster in both directions, bus passenger numbers are up by 7% and cyclists are up 14%. There are fewer vehicles overall but more taxis, that are now befitting from the express lanes. Full report at http://www.brighton- hove.gov.uk/lewesroa d and there is a video from bus driver's perspective here http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=iW7hT6Ec1 18[/p][/quote]Oh do shut up, you know as well as I do that your figures are completely manipulated, step out of ur shoe box and go live it for yourself then come and tell us journey times are hardly affected. You take data, spin it, manipulate it and spout nonsense. You have ruined Brighton, FACT Brighton1000
  • Score: 7

3:43pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Brighton1000 says...

Eugenius wrote:
It's a myth that travelling at 20mph causes more air pollution. This stems from data in the early 1980s when engines were less efficient. Changing gear and breaking/acceleratin

g, the stop/start pattern when you have 30mph in residential areas, is less efficient and causes more pollution.

We expect to see more people cycling now that the roads are safer so hopefully we should see a gradual indirect improvement in air quality from changes in modes of transport.
Who is 'we'?
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: It's a myth that travelling at 20mph causes more air pollution. This stems from data in the early 1980s when engines were less efficient. Changing gear and breaking/acceleratin g, the stop/start pattern when you have 30mph in residential areas, is less efficient and causes more pollution. We expect to see more people cycling now that the roads are safer so hopefully we should see a gradual indirect improvement in air quality from changes in modes of transport.[/p][/quote]Who is 'we'? Brighton1000
  • Score: 9

5:45pm Wed 8 Jan 14

her professional says...

Brighton1000 wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
The first empirical data back from Lewes Road shows that the changes there are working well. Car journey times are taking a minute and a half longer southbound at rush hour (less of an impact than the model predicted), but no change northbound, bus journeys are a couple of minutes faster in both directions, bus passenger numbers are up by 7% and cyclists are up 14%. There are fewer vehicles overall but more taxis, that are now befitting from the express lanes.

Full report at http://www.brighton-


hove.gov.uk/lewesroa


d and there is a video from bus driver's perspective here http://www.youtube.c


om/watch?v=iW7hT6Ec1


18
Oh do shut up, you know as well as I do that your figures are completely manipulated, step out of ur shoe box and go live it for yourself then come and tell us journey times are hardly affected. You take data, spin it, manipulate it and spout nonsense. You have ruined Brighton, FACT
Carefully thought out response, any real facts to back up the insults? 'course not.
[quote][p][bold]Brighton1000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: The first empirical data back from Lewes Road shows that the changes there are working well. Car journey times are taking a minute and a half longer southbound at rush hour (less of an impact than the model predicted), but no change northbound, bus journeys are a couple of minutes faster in both directions, bus passenger numbers are up by 7% and cyclists are up 14%. There are fewer vehicles overall but more taxis, that are now befitting from the express lanes. Full report at http://www.brighton- hove.gov.uk/lewesroa d and there is a video from bus driver's perspective here http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=iW7hT6Ec1 18[/p][/quote]Oh do shut up, you know as well as I do that your figures are completely manipulated, step out of ur shoe box and go live it for yourself then come and tell us journey times are hardly affected. You take data, spin it, manipulate it and spout nonsense. You have ruined Brighton, FACT[/p][/quote]Carefully thought out response, any real facts to back up the insults? 'course not. her professional
  • Score: 4

10:29pm Wed 8 Jan 14

rolivan says...

Eugenius wrote:
The first empirical data back from Lewes Road shows that the changes there are working well. Car journey times are taking a minute and a half longer southbound at rush hour (less of an impact than the model predicted), but no change northbound, bus journeys are a couple of minutes faster in both directions, bus passenger numbers are up by 7% and cyclists are up 14%. There are fewer vehicles overall but more taxis, that are now befitting from the express lanes.

Full report at http://www.brighton-

hove.gov.uk/lewesroa

d and there is a video from bus driver's perspective here http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=iW7hT6Ec1

18
The fact that there are fewer vehicles surely means they are using other roads and creating more rat runs!
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: The first empirical data back from Lewes Road shows that the changes there are working well. Car journey times are taking a minute and a half longer southbound at rush hour (less of an impact than the model predicted), but no change northbound, bus journeys are a couple of minutes faster in both directions, bus passenger numbers are up by 7% and cyclists are up 14%. There are fewer vehicles overall but more taxis, that are now befitting from the express lanes. Full report at http://www.brighton- hove.gov.uk/lewesroa d and there is a video from bus driver's perspective here http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=iW7hT6Ec1 18[/p][/quote]The fact that there are fewer vehicles surely means they are using other roads and creating more rat runs! rolivan
  • Score: 0

10:46pm Wed 8 Jan 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

Why are trees being planted?! What a bad area to put them in - the branches will need constant cutting to stop them going through bus windows which will cause more delays. Very bad to do that.

Why does it take so long to do something so simple? It should only take a few days, weather permitting? How much is being spent on all of this - far too much I bet.
Why are trees being planted?! What a bad area to put them in - the branches will need constant cutting to stop them going through bus windows which will cause more delays. Very bad to do that. Why does it take so long to do something so simple? It should only take a few days, weather permitting? How much is being spent on all of this - far too much I bet. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: -1

8:13am Thu 9 Jan 14

salty_pete says...

Eugenius wrote:
The first empirical data back from Lewes Road shows that the changes there are working well. Car journey times are taking a minute and a half longer southbound at rush hour (less of an impact than the model predicted), but no change northbound, bus journeys are a couple of minutes faster in both directions, bus passenger numbers are up by 7% and cyclists are up 14%. There are fewer vehicles overall but more taxis, that are now befitting from the express lanes.

Full report at http://www.brighton-

hove.gov.uk/lewesroa

d and there is a video from bus driver's perspective here http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=iW7hT6Ec1

18
Does your estimate of travel time take into account the stationary queue when leaving the A27 southbound, thought not. And has any estimate been made of the volume of vehicles displaced onto other routes, like Ditchling Road, no I guess not too. Could it be Eugenius that you use blinkers, rose coloured specs, and even believe that the emperor has fine clothes?
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: The first empirical data back from Lewes Road shows that the changes there are working well. Car journey times are taking a minute and a half longer southbound at rush hour (less of an impact than the model predicted), but no change northbound, bus journeys are a couple of minutes faster in both directions, bus passenger numbers are up by 7% and cyclists are up 14%. There are fewer vehicles overall but more taxis, that are now befitting from the express lanes. Full report at http://www.brighton- hove.gov.uk/lewesroa d and there is a video from bus driver's perspective here http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=iW7hT6Ec1 18[/p][/quote]Does your estimate of travel time take into account the stationary queue when leaving the A27 southbound, thought not. And has any estimate been made of the volume of vehicles displaced onto other routes, like Ditchling Road, no I guess not too. Could it be Eugenius that you use blinkers, rose coloured specs, and even believe that the emperor has fine clothes? salty_pete
  • Score: 2

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