Sussex fire stations could lose engines and firefighters in £1.7m cuts plan

Sussex fire stations could lose engines and firefighters in £1.7m cuts plan

Sussex fire stations could lose engines and firefighters in £1.7m cuts plan

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Plans to make up to £1.7 million savings at East Sussex Fire and Rescue Service (ESFRS) could see stations downgraded and firefighters made redundant.

Removing a fire engine from Preston Circus or Hove fire station, cutting up to 44 firefighters from Brighton and Hastings and downgrading Roedean Fire Station in Brighton and The Ridge Fire Station in Hastings are options being considered by the service.

A statement from the service said it had to meet "the twin challenges of changing needs within the community and reductions in its funding".

It added: "The number of incidents has fallen over the years as prevention work continues to reduce the risks of fires and other emergencies.

"Meanwhile funding has been reduced due to cuts in Government grants and pressures to keep Council Tax levels low."

 

Proposal 1: To remove a fire engine from either Preston Circus or Hove, which would leave four fire engines in the city which are crewed 24 hours a day.

The move would see 24 jobs lost and save the service £1.066 million by 2018/19.

ESFRS said: "This change would have no significant impact on life risk and attendance standards would still be met."

Proposal 2:

Either:

a: Convert Battle Fire Station from Wholetime (Day Crewed) to a new Day Crewed Duty System. The station could then provide cover 7 days a week instead of 5, supporting Hastings, where the Retained Duty System fire engine could be removed from.

The service said: "This attends a low number of calls and so removing it is predicted to have no significant impact on service performance.

"This would mean we increase the establishment at Battle whilst reducing the number of on call firefighters at The Ridge."

It would save £14,000 by 2018/19.

Or:

b: Convert Battle Fire Station from Wholetime (Day Crewed) to a retained duty system, reducing .the number of Wholetime posts at Battle by 9.

The service said: "This would mean both fire engines are kept at The Ridge in Hastings. Battle has a low number of calls and analysis shows there would be no significant impact on Service performance."

It could save £200,000 by 2018/19.

Proposal 3:

Introduce Day Crewed Plus at Roedean Fire Station in Brighton and The Ridge Fire Station in Hastings, both currently Wholetime stations.

The service said: "Day Crewed Plus would be a new way of working for East Sussex Fire & Rescue Service and is successfully used by other fire and rescue services across England.

"It means that firefighters stay in accommodation provided by us on site on a self rostering duty system.

"They are therefore still ready to turn out 24 hours a day. This option would mean we could save money by reducing posts but it would not affect attendance times."

20 jobs would be lost, saving £432,000 by 2018/19.

 

Savings of up to £1.698 million could be made if all three proposals are given the go ahead.

At its meeting on Friday February 14, the fire authority will consider its budget and Council Tax and decide whether to go to public consultation on a number of proposals to change the service over the next five years.

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7:52am Fri 7 Feb 14

ourcoalition says...

Whatever the managers say, less crews/stations must mean higher risk to life and limb.
If the FBU want support in fighting this, then UNISON will be there.
These are a cut too far - they must be stopped.
Whatever the managers say, less crews/stations must mean higher risk to life and limb. If the FBU want support in fighting this, then UNISON will be there. These are a cut too far - they must be stopped. ourcoalition
  • Score: 14

7:59am Fri 7 Feb 14

monkeymoo says...

Brighton and Hove has a population of over 250,000 people....
Not to mention the increase in people during summer.

This Fire Authority seem to believe that just 20 firefighters (that's the crew for 4 fire engines) are enough to carry out all the;

Floods (both large and small)
Lift rescues
Fires
Road traffic collisions
Assistance to the ambulance service
Assistance to the Police
Dangerous structures (collapse / damaged)
High rise rescues
Rope rescue
Cliff rescue
Assistance to coast guard
False alarms (All alrms are REAL fires until a firefighter investigates, and decides it's a fale alarm!)
Malicious calls
Car fires
School visits
Home safety visits
Fitting smoke alarms
Inspecting properties and hotels / guest houses
Cats in trees!
And countless other tasks that a FIRE and RESCUE service provide.

Why are we governed by idiots!?

One other thing....

Incidents have gone down compared to 10 years ago.
However, they HAVE BEEN INCREASING over the last 3 years. Easily obtained figures from ESFRS website.
Brighton and Hove has a population of over 250,000 people.... Not to mention the increase in people during summer. This Fire Authority seem to believe that just 20 firefighters (that's the crew for 4 fire engines) are enough to carry out all the; Floods (both large and small) Lift rescues Fires Road traffic collisions Assistance to the ambulance service Assistance to the Police Dangerous structures (collapse / damaged) High rise rescues Rope rescue Cliff rescue Assistance to coast guard False alarms (All alrms are REAL fires until a firefighter investigates, and decides it's a fale alarm!) Malicious calls Car fires School visits Home safety visits Fitting smoke alarms Inspecting properties and hotels / guest houses Cats in trees! And countless other tasks that a FIRE and RESCUE service provide. Why are we governed by idiots!? One other thing.... Incidents have gone down compared to 10 years ago. However, they HAVE BEEN INCREASING over the last 3 years. Easily obtained figures from ESFRS website. monkeymoo
  • Score: 18

9:55am Fri 7 Feb 14

ThinkBrighton says...

Twenty years ago the main fire station in Brighton had 5/6 fire engines, it now has 3/4 although the city has grown by 20%, wouldn't it be a great idea if all the councillors went back to the method of funding their services of twenty years ago, in that being a councillor was a voluntary post with expenses payed. As opposed to today where it is a full time job with some councillors taking £40,000.00 out of the public purse, this should save a good amount of the money that they wish to cut from the fire service (we know it won't happen because greed always wins, and the councillors in East Sussex are a prime example)
Twenty years ago the main fire station in Brighton had 5/6 fire engines, it now has 3/4 although the city has grown by 20%, wouldn't it be a great idea if all the councillors went back to the method of funding their services of twenty years ago, in that being a councillor was a voluntary post with expenses payed. As opposed to today where it is a full time job with some councillors taking £40,000.00 out of the public purse, this should save a good amount of the money that they wish to cut from the fire service (we know it won't happen because greed always wins, and the councillors in East Sussex are a prime example) ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 10

11:27am Fri 7 Feb 14

clubrob6 says...

The same thing is happening in Cumbria where I am from ,they wanted to cut fire engines to one per station but public outcry has made them change there mind.Frontline fire engines and crew must be kept,what should be looked into is fees for the fire service for such things as being called out to lift failures etc.We have already seen our visable police removed after dark with local police stations closed down,and the government falsely claiming crime is officially down but in reality its only down because we have few police on duty after dark to record any crime,plus the public cant easily report crime as the police stations close as soon as darkness falls and the police online reporting form gets ignored as I found out.Firefighters have a huge range of tasks to keeps us safe we need to keep them.What would happen for instance is one of the tower block was on fire?Too much money is being wasted on things like the 20MPH zones,thats basically ignored and not enforceable.If people speak up the fire service frontline service will be saved.
The same thing is happening in Cumbria where I am from ,they wanted to cut fire engines to one per station but public outcry has made them change there mind.Frontline fire engines and crew must be kept,what should be looked into is fees for the fire service for such things as being called out to lift failures etc.We have already seen our visable police removed after dark with local police stations closed down,and the government falsely claiming crime is officially down but in reality its only down because we have few police on duty after dark to record any crime,plus the public cant easily report crime as the police stations close as soon as darkness falls and the police online reporting form gets ignored as I found out.Firefighters have a huge range of tasks to keeps us safe we need to keep them.What would happen for instance is one of the tower block was on fire?Too much money is being wasted on things like the 20MPH zones,thats basically ignored and not enforceable.If people speak up the fire service frontline service will be saved. clubrob6
  • Score: 10

6:00pm Fri 7 Feb 14

X635JR says...

5:35pm Fri 7 Feb 14
X635JR says...

Why have we still got 2 Fire and Rescue Services in Sussex.
Plenty of savings to be made with 1 Hq, 1 chief Officer team etc.
Time for change? Can we still afford to have little sub county structures.
Sussex Police led the way in 1968, maybe 50 yrs later we could have a Sussex Fire Service.
5:35pm Fri 7 Feb 14 X635JR says... Why have we still got 2 Fire and Rescue Services in Sussex. Plenty of savings to be made with 1 Hq, 1 chief Officer team etc. Time for change? Can we still afford to have little sub county structures. Sussex Police led the way in 1968, maybe 50 yrs later we could have a Sussex Fire Service. X635JR
  • Score: 0

6:31pm Fri 7 Feb 14

angrymonkey says...

how many billon pounds is sent over sea for others like India that's starting a space program? we need a government that puts are money back into looking after the uk. NHS police now fire service all going down the pan.
how many billon pounds is sent over sea for others like India that's starting a space program? we need a government that puts are money back into looking after the uk. NHS police now fire service all going down the pan. angrymonkey
  • Score: 5

6:28pm Sat 8 Feb 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

When one of our esteemed ministers or MP's or PM's houses' burn down, then they might just rethink this stupid idea they've got about cutting down on firemen and closing fire stations.
When one of our esteemed ministers or MP's or PM's houses' burn down, then they might just rethink this stupid idea they've got about cutting down on firemen and closing fire stations. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 1

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