Angry NHS workers plan demonstration at Royal Sussex against pay cuts

ANGRY NHS workers are to hold a demonstration against cuts in pay.

The GMB has criticised Brighton and Sussex University Hospital NHS Trust’s decision to reduce the amount of money it pays to its team of nursing bank staff.

The move, which could save up to £1.5 million a year, will affect hundreds of workers.

The GMB said cutting the salaries of workers towards the bottom end of the pay scale will increase the “massive inequality” between the highest and lowest paid workers at the trust.

It warned that staff morale was also being affected.

Bank staff provide cover for vacancies, sickness and special leave such as mater- nity and there are around 2,200 on the books.

Most are already employed by the trust, using bank shifts as over- time to earn extra money.

However more than 500, including nurses and healthcare assistants, only work bank shifts and do not get sick or holiday pay.

The cut means a band 2 healthcare assistant cur- rently paid £11.26 an hour for a 12-hour weekday shift will be paid £7.89 an hour instead.

The trust said its current pay rate for bank staff was higher than average and meant lower banded bank- only staff were being paid more than full-time workers at a higher level to them.

The GMB is staging the demonstration outside the Royal Sussex County Hospital in Brighton at 11am on March 3, the day the new system is due to start.

Regional organiser Gary Palmer said the demo would highlight concerns about reducing earnings for lower- paid staff.

He said: “It is also to point out these cuts come at a time when trust employees have effectively already had to suffer from pay cuts year on year, due to pay freezes or awards that were below the rate of inflation.”

A trust spokesman said it was working to ensure its bank rates were fairer to all staff.

He said: “Our bank rates were higher than most hos- pitals in England and were in many circumstances unfair.

“For example, a bank healthcare assistant was being paid more than a band 5 trained nurse and a band 3 bank nurse was being paid more than a band 3 substan- tive nurse for exactly the same shift on the same ward.”

He said that up to 100 bank staff were already being offered permanent jobs in the NHS. The trust is aiming to make £20 million of savings this year to keep it on financial track.

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11:56am Sun 23 Feb 14

From beer to uncertainty says...

I believe the Tory 'reorganisation' (privatisation) of the NHS is ideologically driven lunacy. Bloody-minded, private-pocket lining, moronic, and wasteful - all the key components seemingly apparent when politicians sell public assets off to their old school chums.
It does, I suppose, allow our glorious leaders to deal indirectly with the pension scam crisis. Massively increased healthcare costs with a dramatic drop in life expectancy seems precisely what the American-style private healthcare model delivers to it's people, in my opinion - more of the same for the UK. Chronic financial liabilities (known as elderly patients to most people) can look forward to more 'death on a trolley' scenarios until school-leavers can take over key care roles (with the requisite NVQs in 'I'll help you die at home whether you are treatable and really ill, or not').

I think readers can soon expect more 'doctor bashing' media stories as they're being replaced with poorly qualified, easily-disposable, staff with open-e-learning diplomas in 'advanced hand-holding techniques' and certificates demonstrating achievements in 'accidental involuntary euthanasia'.

For a clearer picture of the future - envisage the nightmare of present NHS dental care in the UK being extended to medical and surgical specialties...eventu
ally with insurance claim-lines being the first call you have to make, to find out what you can afford before seeing a doctor who has a direct financial interest in either denying some treatments or fleecing you with lots of unnecessary tests and investigations. Something apparent to me from the US system to which our glorious leaders aspire: 'charge every patient for an MRI first...if they've got enough insurance or any money left then look at the results of the MRI'

Additional cash-payments towards the actual costs of treatment coming soon. This marginal payment will be nudged up until 'private insurance' can be sold as a 'no brainer'. 30 years later the UK will be trying to bring-in Obama care.
I believe the Tory 'reorganisation' (privatisation) of the NHS is ideologically driven lunacy. Bloody-minded, private-pocket lining, moronic, and wasteful - all the key components seemingly apparent when politicians sell public assets off to their old school chums. It does, I suppose, allow our glorious leaders to deal indirectly with the pension scam crisis. Massively increased healthcare costs with a dramatic drop in life expectancy seems precisely what the American-style private healthcare model delivers to it's people, in my opinion - more of the same for the UK. Chronic financial liabilities (known as elderly patients to most people) can look forward to more 'death on a trolley' scenarios until school-leavers can take over key care roles (with the requisite NVQs in 'I'll help you die at home whether you are treatable and really ill, or not'). I think readers can soon expect more 'doctor bashing' media stories as they're being replaced with poorly qualified, easily-disposable, staff with open-e-learning diplomas in 'advanced hand-holding techniques' and certificates demonstrating achievements in 'accidental involuntary euthanasia'. For a clearer picture of the future - envisage the nightmare of present NHS dental care in the UK being extended to medical and surgical specialties...eventu ally with insurance claim-lines being the first call you have to make, to find out what you can afford before seeing a doctor who has a direct financial interest in either denying some treatments or fleecing you with lots of unnecessary tests and investigations. Something apparent to me from the US system to which our glorious leaders aspire: 'charge every patient for an MRI first...if they've got enough insurance or any money left then look at the results of the MRI' Additional cash-payments towards the actual costs of treatment coming soon. This marginal payment will be nudged up until 'private insurance' can be sold as a 'no brainer'. 30 years later the UK will be trying to bring-in Obama care. From beer to uncertainty

12:19pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Plantpot says...

The NHS, if it could, would take every penny raised in taxation in the UK. And it would never be enough.
The NHS, if it could, would take every penny raised in taxation in the UK. And it would never be enough. Plantpot

12:54pm Sun 23 Feb 14

From beer to uncertainty says...

Plantpot wrote:
The NHS, if it could, would take every penny raised in taxation in the UK. And it would never be enough.
That would only be true if it attempted to treat your profound and wilful ignorance as a disease.
[quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: The NHS, if it could, would take every penny raised in taxation in the UK. And it would never be enough.[/p][/quote]That would only be true if it attempted to treat your profound and wilful ignorance as a disease. From beer to uncertainty

1:21pm Sun 23 Feb 14

ourcoalition says...

From beer to uncertainty wrote:
Plantpot wrote:
The NHS, if it could, would take every penny raised in taxation in the UK. And it would never be enough.
That would only be true if it attempted to treat your profound and wilful ignorance as a disease.
Brilliant response - and so true!!!
[quote][p][bold]From beer to uncertainty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: The NHS, if it could, would take every penny raised in taxation in the UK. And it would never be enough.[/p][/quote]That would only be true if it attempted to treat your profound and wilful ignorance as a disease.[/p][/quote]Brilliant response - and so true!!! ourcoalition

1:59pm Sun 23 Feb 14

whatevernext2013 says...

they do have a choice ,if the wages are not high enough don t work ,its all about supply and demand ,if staff are willing to work for peanuts they the nhs will employ them
they do have a choice ,if the wages are not high enough don t work ,its all about supply and demand ,if staff are willing to work for peanuts they the nhs will employ them whatevernext2013

7:27pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Plantpot says...

From beer to uncertainty wrote:
Plantpot wrote:
The NHS, if it could, would take every penny raised in taxation in the UK. And it would never be enough.
That would only be true if it attempted to treat your profound and wilful ignorance as a disease.
Ever thought of doing stand up? You could be the new Alexei Sayle or something.....
[quote][p][bold]From beer to uncertainty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: The NHS, if it could, would take every penny raised in taxation in the UK. And it would never be enough.[/p][/quote]That would only be true if it attempted to treat your profound and wilful ignorance as a disease.[/p][/quote]Ever thought of doing stand up? You could be the new Alexei Sayle or something..... Plantpot

7:29pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Plantpot says...

From beer to uncertainty wrote:
I believe the Tory 'reorganisation' (privatisation) of the NHS is ideologically driven lunacy. Bloody-minded, private-pocket lining, moronic, and wasteful - all the key components seemingly apparent when politicians sell public assets off to their old school chums.
It does, I suppose, allow our glorious leaders to deal indirectly with the pension scam crisis. Massively increased healthcare costs with a dramatic drop in life expectancy seems precisely what the American-style private healthcare model delivers to it's people, in my opinion - more of the same for the UK. Chronic financial liabilities (known as elderly patients to most people) can look forward to more 'death on a trolley' scenarios until school-leavers can take over key care roles (with the requisite NVQs in 'I'll help you die at home whether you are treatable and really ill, or not').

I think readers can soon expect more 'doctor bashing' media stories as they're being replaced with poorly qualified, easily-disposable, staff with open-e-learning diplomas in 'advanced hand-holding techniques' and certificates demonstrating achievements in 'accidental involuntary euthanasia'.

For a clearer picture of the future - envisage the nightmare of present NHS dental care in the UK being extended to medical and surgical specialties...eventu

ally with insurance claim-lines being the first call you have to make, to find out what you can afford before seeing a doctor who has a direct financial interest in either denying some treatments or fleecing you with lots of unnecessary tests and investigations. Something apparent to me from the US system to which our glorious leaders aspire: 'charge every patient for an MRI first...if they've got enough insurance or any money left then look at the results of the MRI'

Additional cash-payments towards the actual costs of treatment coming soon. This marginal payment will be nudged up until 'private insurance' can be sold as a 'no brainer'. 30 years later the UK will be trying to bring-in Obama care.
When you wrote this was it the beer or uncertainty that drove your thoughts? And why criticise the Tories for their ideology when yours is equally ideologically driven and somewhat irrational?

BTW, Labour started the privatisation long before the Tories.

Who cares who provides the healthcare as long as we get it?
[quote][p][bold]From beer to uncertainty[/bold] wrote: I believe the Tory 'reorganisation' (privatisation) of the NHS is ideologically driven lunacy. Bloody-minded, private-pocket lining, moronic, and wasteful - all the key components seemingly apparent when politicians sell public assets off to their old school chums. It does, I suppose, allow our glorious leaders to deal indirectly with the pension scam crisis. Massively increased healthcare costs with a dramatic drop in life expectancy seems precisely what the American-style private healthcare model delivers to it's people, in my opinion - more of the same for the UK. Chronic financial liabilities (known as elderly patients to most people) can look forward to more 'death on a trolley' scenarios until school-leavers can take over key care roles (with the requisite NVQs in 'I'll help you die at home whether you are treatable and really ill, or not'). I think readers can soon expect more 'doctor bashing' media stories as they're being replaced with poorly qualified, easily-disposable, staff with open-e-learning diplomas in 'advanced hand-holding techniques' and certificates demonstrating achievements in 'accidental involuntary euthanasia'. For a clearer picture of the future - envisage the nightmare of present NHS dental care in the UK being extended to medical and surgical specialties...eventu ally with insurance claim-lines being the first call you have to make, to find out what you can afford before seeing a doctor who has a direct financial interest in either denying some treatments or fleecing you with lots of unnecessary tests and investigations. Something apparent to me from the US system to which our glorious leaders aspire: 'charge every patient for an MRI first...if they've got enough insurance or any money left then look at the results of the MRI' Additional cash-payments towards the actual costs of treatment coming soon. This marginal payment will be nudged up until 'private insurance' can be sold as a 'no brainer'. 30 years later the UK will be trying to bring-in Obama care.[/p][/quote]When you wrote this was it the beer or uncertainty that drove your thoughts? And why criticise the Tories for their ideology when yours is equally ideologically driven and somewhat irrational? BTW, Labour started the privatisation long before the Tories. Who cares who provides the healthcare as long as we get it? Plantpot

8:01pm Sun 23 Feb 14

fredaj says...

Plantpot wrote:
The NHS, if it could, would take every penny raised in taxation in the UK. And it would never be enough.
Yep - completely agree. There can never be enough money to fund everything in the health service that we would like. It is just not possible.

And anyone who thinks it is, is looking at it from a idealogical prospective instead of a realistic one.

But going back to these overtime payments - this shows, as with the bin men dispute before it, that if you pay people extra to stop one protest at a particular point in time, it is going to bite you next time round.

If people are being abused (zero hours contracts for example) then yes, there should be strikes but if this really is about fairness, and from what I have read it is, then there really is no argument for strikes and protests beyond greediness.
[quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: The NHS, if it could, would take every penny raised in taxation in the UK. And it would never be enough.[/p][/quote]Yep - completely agree. There can never be enough money to fund everything in the health service that we would like. It is just not possible. And anyone who thinks it is, is looking at it from a idealogical prospective instead of a realistic one. But going back to these overtime payments - this shows, as with the bin men dispute before it, that if you pay people extra to stop one protest at a particular point in time, it is going to bite you next time round. If people are being abused (zero hours contracts for example) then yes, there should be strikes but if this really is about fairness, and from what I have read it is, then there really is no argument for strikes and protests beyond greediness. fredaj

3:14am Mon 24 Feb 14

kemptownmassive says...

I work in the hospital whilst no fan of pay cuts I see the point that lower grade I.e. therefore less skilled staff such as hca's doing bank are paid a higher rate than a qualified salaried band 5 staff nurse working the same shift the responsibility is greater on the qualified nurse and therefore this is not really fare. And no I'm not a member of management or personnel.
I work in the hospital whilst no fan of pay cuts I see the point that lower grade I.e. therefore less skilled staff such as hca's doing bank are paid a higher rate than a qualified salaried band 5 staff nurse working the same shift the responsibility is greater on the qualified nurse and therefore this is not really fare. And no I'm not a member of management or personnel. kemptownmassive

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