Brighton family stuck for months in house 'unfit for habitation'

Ben Mack with his cardboard boxes

Ben Mack with his cardboard boxes

First published in News by , Reporter

A family faced months of misery when they were left living out of cardboard boxes after being promised a new council home.

The Mack family say that since Christmas they had been trying to move out of their property in Queensway, Brighton, after a Mears maintenance inspection said it was unfit for habitation due to health and safety reasons.

The family said every move date was delayed and it was only yesterday, after The Argus had contacted the city council, that the family moved into a new property temporarily in Portslade.

As a result, the family told how they had been left living week by week with no definite answer as to when they would be able to move into their new home.

Father Ben Mack said: “It had been months of false hope and false promises.”

Mr Mack lives with his wife Marianne, and their children, Courtney, 11, Lelane, 4, and Adele, 2.

They told how they had received a letter from their family doctor saying that staying in the property was having an ill effect on their health.

The family said they were initially promised a permanent new home – but this was then changed to temporary accommodation in Portslade with a move in date of February 26 before it was cancelled.

The new date of March 6 was also cancelled and the family was left waiting. 

It was only yesterday the family was finally moved into the property.

But the family say the Portslade property also has its own problems because it they say it is too far from their daughter’s school at Brighton Aldridge Community Academy.

Mr Mack said: “Already she has to leave at 7am, to get from Portslade she would be having to leave around 5.30am.”

When contacted by The Argus, a council spokesman, said: “Our target date for work to start and for the move to temporary accommodation was February 26.

“Unfortunately this has been delayed until March 6 as work needs to be done to their temporary accommodation before they move in. We have apologised to Mr Mack for this delay.

“The family have accepted our offer to pay for the extra home to school travel costs triggered by the temporary move.”

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5:43am Thu 13 Mar 14

madzukun88 says...

This story really makes me angry. Everyone nowdays seems to think that council houses are owed to them for some reason. They're not, and I have seen people in worse conditions waiting a lot longer than this family have to move.

Also, the daughter has to leave at 5:30am to get to college instead of 7? It takes an hour to get from portslade to Aldridge academy by public transport, so she has to be at school at 6:30? I think you should be complaining to the school, not the argus. But it's nice how people fabricate things for the sake of pity.
This story really makes me angry. Everyone nowdays seems to think that council houses are owed to them for some reason. They're not, and I have seen people in worse conditions waiting a lot longer than this family have to move. Also, the daughter has to leave at 5:30am to get to college instead of 7? It takes an hour to get from portslade to Aldridge academy by public transport, so she has to be at school at 6:30? I think you should be complaining to the school, not the argus. But it's nice how people fabricate things for the sake of pity. madzukun88
  • Score: 40

7:10am Thu 13 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Surely the family deserve a holiday due to the stress of it?
Moving house is the most stressful thing other than divorce!
Seems the council are doing everything they can, this guy must struggle to work as he lives other side of town now? Perhaps he has a car? Or perhaps he can't get out of bed and get a job?
No doubt good old tax payer will pick up the bill,..
Surely the family deserve a holiday due to the stress of it? Moving house is the most stressful thing other than divorce! Seems the council are doing everything they can, this guy must struggle to work as he lives other side of town now? Perhaps he has a car? Or perhaps he can't get out of bed and get a job? No doubt good old tax payer will pick up the bill,.. mark by the sea
  • Score: 34

7:11am Thu 13 Mar 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

While you may enjoy getting stuck into whether this family deserve a house madzukun, the real scandal is that this council property has become unfit for human habitation. It could have easily have been an elderly couple living here and perhaps you would have felt differently. This is the council which has spent millions on road signs, re painting cycle lanes, having a party in wild park to celebrate re painting a cycle lane, a light up bus time table in Preston park, unused electric car charging points and now wants to go into the tourism trade and erect a pole using our money.
And remember this is the council which has once again let the travellers into wild park, interestingly a number of the vans have foreign number plates so it seems news has spread that we welcome diesel vans and holiday lets into our parks, and this is the council happy to get PR from putting shipping containers together for homes for the homeless while letting other homes fall into disrepair.
The incompetence of this current authority is utterly shameful and don't be blinkered by its leaders claiming the poor will suffer while they spend money on their pet projects.
While you may enjoy getting stuck into whether this family deserve a house madzukun, the real scandal is that this council property has become unfit for human habitation. It could have easily have been an elderly couple living here and perhaps you would have felt differently. This is the council which has spent millions on road signs, re painting cycle lanes, having a party in wild park to celebrate re painting a cycle lane, a light up bus time table in Preston park, unused electric car charging points and now wants to go into the tourism trade and erect a pole using our money. And remember this is the council which has once again let the travellers into wild park, interestingly a number of the vans have foreign number plates so it seems news has spread that we welcome diesel vans and holiday lets into our parks, and this is the council happy to get PR from putting shipping containers together for homes for the homeless while letting other homes fall into disrepair. The incompetence of this current authority is utterly shameful and don't be blinkered by its leaders claiming the poor will suffer while they spend money on their pet projects. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 24

12:50pm Thu 13 Mar 14

brightonaire says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
While you may enjoy getting stuck into whether this family deserve a house madzukun, the real scandal is that this council property has become unfit for human habitation. It could have easily have been an elderly couple living here and perhaps you would have felt differently. This is the council which has spent millions on road signs, re painting cycle lanes, having a party in wild park to celebrate re painting a cycle lane, a light up bus time table in Preston park, unused electric car charging points and now wants to go into the tourism trade and erect a pole using our money.
And remember this is the council which has once again let the travellers into wild park, interestingly a number of the vans have foreign number plates so it seems news has spread that we welcome diesel vans and holiday lets into our parks, and this is the council happy to get PR from putting shipping containers together for homes for the homeless while letting other homes fall into disrepair.
The incompetence of this current authority is utterly shameful and don't be blinkered by its leaders claiming the poor will suffer while they spend money on their pet projects.
You should run for MP... maybe councillor at the very least.. or do you have any weird hobbies or skeletons in the cupboard?.... like exiting the co op with a pound of lard, a pair of rubber gloves and a chicken then cycling up Coombe Road on your bike with a 'corn on the cob' shaped saddle pointing upwards
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: While you may enjoy getting stuck into whether this family deserve a house madzukun, the real scandal is that this council property has become unfit for human habitation. It could have easily have been an elderly couple living here and perhaps you would have felt differently. This is the council which has spent millions on road signs, re painting cycle lanes, having a party in wild park to celebrate re painting a cycle lane, a light up bus time table in Preston park, unused electric car charging points and now wants to go into the tourism trade and erect a pole using our money. And remember this is the council which has once again let the travellers into wild park, interestingly a number of the vans have foreign number plates so it seems news has spread that we welcome diesel vans and holiday lets into our parks, and this is the council happy to get PR from putting shipping containers together for homes for the homeless while letting other homes fall into disrepair. The incompetence of this current authority is utterly shameful and don't be blinkered by its leaders claiming the poor will suffer while they spend money on their pet projects.[/p][/quote]You should run for MP... maybe councillor at the very least.. or do you have any weird hobbies or skeletons in the cupboard?.... like exiting the co op with a pound of lard, a pair of rubber gloves and a chicken then cycling up Coombe Road on your bike with a 'corn on the cob' shaped saddle pointing upwards brightonaire
  • Score: 1

1:19pm Thu 13 Mar 14

gheese77 says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
While you may enjoy getting stuck into whether this family deserve a house madzukun, the real scandal is that this council property has become unfit for human habitation. It could have easily have been an elderly couple living here and perhaps you would have felt differently. This is the council which has spent millions on road signs, re painting cycle lanes, having a party in wild park to celebrate re painting a cycle lane, a light up bus time table in Preston park, unused electric car charging points and now wants to go into the tourism trade and erect a pole using our money.
And remember this is the council which has once again let the travellers into wild park, interestingly a number of the vans have foreign number plates so it seems news has spread that we welcome diesel vans and holiday lets into our parks, and this is the council happy to get PR from putting shipping containers together for homes for the homeless while letting other homes fall into disrepair.
The incompetence of this current authority is utterly shameful and don't be blinkered by its leaders claiming the poor will suffer while they spend money on their pet projects.
You know perfectly well that government rules prevent the council spending transport funds on housing. Or were you just interested in making a chap political point
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: While you may enjoy getting stuck into whether this family deserve a house madzukun, the real scandal is that this council property has become unfit for human habitation. It could have easily have been an elderly couple living here and perhaps you would have felt differently. This is the council which has spent millions on road signs, re painting cycle lanes, having a party in wild park to celebrate re painting a cycle lane, a light up bus time table in Preston park, unused electric car charging points and now wants to go into the tourism trade and erect a pole using our money. And remember this is the council which has once again let the travellers into wild park, interestingly a number of the vans have foreign number plates so it seems news has spread that we welcome diesel vans and holiday lets into our parks, and this is the council happy to get PR from putting shipping containers together for homes for the homeless while letting other homes fall into disrepair. The incompetence of this current authority is utterly shameful and don't be blinkered by its leaders claiming the poor will suffer while they spend money on their pet projects.[/p][/quote]You know perfectly well that government rules prevent the council spending transport funds on housing. Or were you just interested in making a chap political point gheese77
  • Score: -5

1:52pm Thu 13 Mar 14

PorkyChopper says...

brightonaire wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
While you may enjoy getting stuck into whether this family deserve a house madzukun, the real scandal is that this council property has become unfit for human habitation. It could have easily have been an elderly couple living here and perhaps you would have felt differently. This is the council which has spent millions on road signs, re painting cycle lanes, having a party in wild park to celebrate re painting a cycle lane, a light up bus time table in Preston park, unused electric car charging points and now wants to go into the tourism trade and erect a pole using our money.
And remember this is the council which has once again let the travellers into wild park, interestingly a number of the vans have foreign number plates so it seems news has spread that we welcome diesel vans and holiday lets into our parks, and this is the council happy to get PR from putting shipping containers together for homes for the homeless while letting other homes fall into disrepair.
The incompetence of this current authority is utterly shameful and don't be blinkered by its leaders claiming the poor will suffer while they spend money on their pet projects.
You should run for MP... maybe councillor at the very least.. or do you have any weird hobbies or skeletons in the cupboard?.... like exiting the co op with a pound of lard, a pair of rubber gloves and a chicken then cycling up Coombe Road on your bike with a 'corn on the cob' shaped saddle pointing upwards
Those would be insignificant compared to the peccadilloes of many current and past MPs and councillors.
[quote][p][bold]brightonaire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: While you may enjoy getting stuck into whether this family deserve a house madzukun, the real scandal is that this council property has become unfit for human habitation. It could have easily have been an elderly couple living here and perhaps you would have felt differently. This is the council which has spent millions on road signs, re painting cycle lanes, having a party in wild park to celebrate re painting a cycle lane, a light up bus time table in Preston park, unused electric car charging points and now wants to go into the tourism trade and erect a pole using our money. And remember this is the council which has once again let the travellers into wild park, interestingly a number of the vans have foreign number plates so it seems news has spread that we welcome diesel vans and holiday lets into our parks, and this is the council happy to get PR from putting shipping containers together for homes for the homeless while letting other homes fall into disrepair. The incompetence of this current authority is utterly shameful and don't be blinkered by its leaders claiming the poor will suffer while they spend money on their pet projects.[/p][/quote]You should run for MP... maybe councillor at the very least.. or do you have any weird hobbies or skeletons in the cupboard?.... like exiting the co op with a pound of lard, a pair of rubber gloves and a chicken then cycling up Coombe Road on your bike with a 'corn on the cob' shaped saddle pointing upwards[/p][/quote]Those would be insignificant compared to the peccadilloes of many current and past MPs and councillors. PorkyChopper
  • Score: 6

1:59pm Thu 13 Mar 14

lala83 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Surely the family deserve a holiday due to the stress of it? Moving house is the most stressful thing other than divorce! Seems the council are doing everything they can, this guy must struggle to work as he lives other side of town now? Perhaps he has a car? Or perhaps he can't get out of bed and get a job? No doubt good old tax payer will pick up the bill,..
He too will travel to work!! Not everyone in society is lazy doll doser!! This story doesnt even express 5% of the struggles pressed upon this family!! Kids have been in hospital due to their home bein like that!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Surely the family deserve a holiday due to the stress of it? Moving house is the most stressful thing other than divorce! Seems the council are doing everything they can, this guy must struggle to work as he lives other side of town now? Perhaps he has a car? Or perhaps he can't get out of bed and get a job? No doubt good old tax payer will pick up the bill,..[/p][/quote]He too will travel to work!! Not everyone in society is lazy doll doser!! This story doesnt even express 5% of the struggles pressed upon this family!! Kids have been in hospital due to their home bein like that!! lala83
  • Score: 1

2:17pm Thu 13 Mar 14

tally_brighton says...

I know this family personally and this article doesn't even cover half of what the family has been through!!! The kids have been seriously ill and have suffered greatly... and irrespective of how much earlier their young daughter leaves for school she still has to leave when it is still dark outside and travel through town and wait in town to get her second bus, I don't think any parent with a young daughter would be happy with this!!! I have stood by this family through the last few months, and this article just doesn't express how hard it's been for all of them... and as lala83 stated Mr.Mack also has to travel across town for work now by public transport where as he and the children could all walk to school/work before this temporary move... and no doubt based on how they have been treated by the council thus far, the move back to their house will also be postponed and they will have more stress when the time comes to move back...
I know this family personally and this article doesn't even cover half of what the family has been through!!! The kids have been seriously ill and have suffered greatly... and irrespective of how much earlier their young daughter leaves for school she still has to leave when it is still dark outside and travel through town and wait in town to get her second bus, I don't think any parent with a young daughter would be happy with this!!! I have stood by this family through the last few months, and this article just doesn't express how hard it's been for all of them... and as lala83 stated Mr.Mack also has to travel across town for work now by public transport where as he and the children could all walk to school/work before this temporary move... and no doubt based on how they have been treated by the council thus far, the move back to their house will also be postponed and they will have more stress when the time comes to move back... tally_brighton
  • Score: 0

2:25pm Thu 13 Mar 14

tally_brighton says...

Everyone seems to be skipping the part of the article that says their home was unfit for habitation... irrespective of the families personal circumstances no body should be left in those conditions!!!!!!
Everyone seems to be skipping the part of the article that says their home was unfit for habitation... irrespective of the families personal circumstances no body should be left in those conditions!!!!!! tally_brighton
  • Score: 4

6:46pm Thu 13 Mar 14

tally_brighton says...

madzukun88 wrote:
This story really makes me angry. Everyone nowdays seems to think that council houses are owed to them for some reason. They're not, and I have seen people in worse conditions waiting a lot longer than this family have to move.

Also, the daughter has to leave at 5:30am to get to college instead of 7? It takes an hour to get from portslade to Aldridge academy by public transport, so she has to be at school at 6:30? I think you should be complaining to the school, not the argus. But it's nice how people fabricate things for the sake of pity.
Also it's not that they felt they were owed a council house, they were in a council house that was unfit for habitation, meaning they shouldn't have even left animals in the property let alone a young family... therefore it was the council's responsibility to move them to more suitable accommodation!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]madzukun88[/bold] wrote: This story really makes me angry. Everyone nowdays seems to think that council houses are owed to them for some reason. They're not, and I have seen people in worse conditions waiting a lot longer than this family have to move. Also, the daughter has to leave at 5:30am to get to college instead of 7? It takes an hour to get from portslade to Aldridge academy by public transport, so she has to be at school at 6:30? I think you should be complaining to the school, not the argus. But it's nice how people fabricate things for the sake of pity.[/p][/quote]Also it's not that they felt they were owed a council house, they were in a council house that was unfit for habitation, meaning they shouldn't have even left animals in the property let alone a young family... therefore it was the council's responsibility to move them to more suitable accommodation!!!!! tally_brighton
  • Score: 2

7:57pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Maybe Caroline Lucas could lend them one of her five homes or maybe this grand authority could house them in the tower or perhaps buy them a caravan to park up in wild park or Freshfield road.
Anything goes with this council, except maintaining housing. There's not enough PR in it.
Maybe Caroline Lucas could lend them one of her five homes or maybe this grand authority could house them in the tower or perhaps buy them a caravan to park up in wild park or Freshfield road. Anything goes with this council, except maintaining housing. There's not enough PR in it. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 5

11:50pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Brighton Living says...

Like the house this story is not fit for purpose. Get a job and save for deposit like the rest of us you loser.
Like the house this story is not fit for purpose. Get a job and save for deposit like the rest of us you loser. Brighton Living
  • Score: 2

11:23am Fri 14 Mar 14

bison6 says...

If the house was not fit for habitation then it is of course a failure on the council's part but I have to 100% agree with mark by the sea and madzukun. The story is obviously somewhat fabricated. I live in the area that the macks live in and no other house has these issues to such a degree. But surely us tax payers will have to cough up to get them relocated so there is no problem. We buy our houses. We fix them up and are left to deal with all problems ourselves but these people whine and whine to the world about how bad their situation is. Im sure mr mack has at some point had to pay £800 for a plumbing job, has had to do his own eletrical work, has had to sacrifice all luxury and enjoyment so he can save for the damp and window to be sorted, so he has every right to moan about his free accomodation. He did at one point get a regular job at our local newsagents. He lasted 4 days and is now branded the skinny tattoed thief in this area because he stole, i believe it was, £3000 worth of their lottery scratchcards, from a small struggling family business. We would all come into the shop and see him and his well-fed wife going through whole packs of them. So in all honesty the kids should be moved to a near portslade school. The parents should Be made to work whatever day job is available. The benefits system has just become a way for people to not bother working or having an input to this country. But the tax payer as usual will bail all of them out against our will. We should all stop working and go on the doll! Him will that work out. Anyway this person and his unfortunate family are not wanted back in this area. We dont need that sort amongst us people that slave away for no reward or benefits. If the house is not good enough for them and their kids have to get up the samr time we all do for work then ship them over to burma or iran. Somewhere they will truly appreciate the meaning of self-sufficiency. Us people that pay these people free wages have no choice but to live off our own backs. I saved 7 years for just the deposit on my house. If there is a problem i am the man who supports his family who has to deal with it by work or pay. And then on top I have to pay for mr mack who cantbe bothered and his house is not 'fit' for him. Oh well. Be happy you are not on the street with your kids in foster care you waste of space.
If the house was not fit for habitation then it is of course a failure on the council's part but I have to 100% agree with mark by the sea and madzukun. The story is obviously somewhat fabricated. I live in the area that the macks live in and no other house has these issues to such a degree. But surely us tax payers will have to cough up to get them relocated so there is no problem. We buy our houses. We fix them up and are left to deal with all problems ourselves but these people whine and whine to the world about how bad their situation is. Im sure mr mack has at some point had to pay £800 for a plumbing job, has had to do his own eletrical work, has had to sacrifice all luxury and enjoyment so he can save for the damp and window to be sorted, so he has every right to moan about his free accomodation. He did at one point get a regular job at our local newsagents. He lasted 4 days and is now branded the skinny tattoed thief in this area because he stole, i believe it was, £3000 worth of their lottery scratchcards, from a small struggling family business. We would all come into the shop and see him and his well-fed wife going through whole packs of them. So in all honesty the kids should be moved to a near portslade school. The parents should Be made to work whatever day job is available. The benefits system has just become a way for people to not bother working or having an input to this country. But the tax payer as usual will bail all of them out against our will. We should all stop working and go on the doll! Him will that work out. Anyway this person and his unfortunate family are not wanted back in this area. We dont need that sort amongst us people that slave away for no reward or benefits. If the house is not good enough for them and their kids have to get up the samr time we all do for work then ship them over to burma or iran. Somewhere they will truly appreciate the meaning of self-sufficiency. Us people that pay these people free wages have no choice but to live off our own backs. I saved 7 years for just the deposit on my house. If there is a problem i am the man who supports his family who has to deal with it by work or pay. And then on top I have to pay for mr mack who cantbe bothered and his house is not 'fit' for him. Oh well. Be happy you are not on the street with your kids in foster care you waste of space. bison6
  • Score: 3

10:20pm Fri 14 Mar 14

lala83 says...

bison6 wrote:
If the house was not fit for habitation then it is of course a failure on the council's part but I have to 100% agree with mark by the sea and madzukun. The story is obviously somewhat fabricated. I live in the area that the macks live in and no other house has these issues to such a degree. But surely us tax payers will have to cough up to get them relocated so there is no problem. We buy our houses. We fix them up and are left to deal with all problems ourselves but these people whine and whine to the world about how bad their situation is. Im sure mr mack has at some point had to pay £800 for a plumbing job, has had to do his own eletrical work, has had to sacrifice all luxury and enjoyment so he can save for the damp and window to be sorted, so he has every right to moan about his free accomodation. He did at one point get a regular job at our local newsagents. He lasted 4 days and is now branded the skinny tattoed thief in this area because he stole, i believe it was, £3000 worth of their lottery scratchcards, from a small struggling family business. We would all come into the shop and see him and his well-fed wife going through whole packs of them. So in all honesty the kids should be moved to a near portslade school. The parents should Be made to work whatever day job is available. The benefits system has just become a way for people to not bother working or having an input to this country. But the tax payer as usual will bail all of them out against our will. We should all stop working and go on the doll! Him will that work out. Anyway this person and his unfortunate family are not wanted back in this area. We dont need that sort amongst us people that slave away for no reward or benefits. If the house is not good enough for them and their kids have to get up the samr time we all do for work then ship them over to burma or iran. Somewhere they will truly appreciate the meaning of self-sufficiency. Us people that pay these people free wages have no choice but to live off our own backs. I saved 7 years for just the deposit on my house. If there is a problem i am the man who supports his family who has to deal with it by work or pay. And then on top I have to pay for mr mack who cantbe bothered and his house is not 'fit' for him. Oh well. Be happy you are not on the street with your kids in foster care you waste of space.
This is not a very nice comment about this family I believe this story is nothing to do with his previous employment which I believe he was cleared of.. as gor his well-fed wife that u refer to I understand she was 8 months pregnant when he worked there not fat!! This man works to support his family and its the councils responsability to make sure their properties are fit for living in not that of thw tenant! The problem is due to a building error in their property... I think u have made an attack on this family
[quote][p][bold]bison6[/bold] wrote: If the house was not fit for habitation then it is of course a failure on the council's part but I have to 100% agree with mark by the sea and madzukun. The story is obviously somewhat fabricated. I live in the area that the macks live in and no other house has these issues to such a degree. But surely us tax payers will have to cough up to get them relocated so there is no problem. We buy our houses. We fix them up and are left to deal with all problems ourselves but these people whine and whine to the world about how bad their situation is. Im sure mr mack has at some point had to pay £800 for a plumbing job, has had to do his own eletrical work, has had to sacrifice all luxury and enjoyment so he can save for the damp and window to be sorted, so he has every right to moan about his free accomodation. He did at one point get a regular job at our local newsagents. He lasted 4 days and is now branded the skinny tattoed thief in this area because he stole, i believe it was, £3000 worth of their lottery scratchcards, from a small struggling family business. We would all come into the shop and see him and his well-fed wife going through whole packs of them. So in all honesty the kids should be moved to a near portslade school. The parents should Be made to work whatever day job is available. The benefits system has just become a way for people to not bother working or having an input to this country. But the tax payer as usual will bail all of them out against our will. We should all stop working and go on the doll! Him will that work out. Anyway this person and his unfortunate family are not wanted back in this area. We dont need that sort amongst us people that slave away for no reward or benefits. If the house is not good enough for them and their kids have to get up the samr time we all do for work then ship them over to burma or iran. Somewhere they will truly appreciate the meaning of self-sufficiency. Us people that pay these people free wages have no choice but to live off our own backs. I saved 7 years for just the deposit on my house. If there is a problem i am the man who supports his family who has to deal with it by work or pay. And then on top I have to pay for mr mack who cantbe bothered and his house is not 'fit' for him. Oh well. Be happy you are not on the street with your kids in foster care you waste of space.[/p][/quote]This is not a very nice comment about this family I believe this story is nothing to do with his previous employment which I believe he was cleared of.. as gor his well-fed wife that u refer to I understand she was 8 months pregnant when he worked there not fat!! This man works to support his family and its the councils responsability to make sure their properties are fit for living in not that of thw tenant! The problem is due to a building error in their property... I think u have made an attack on this family lala83
  • Score: 0

10:28pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Haha 1984 says...

bison6 wrote:
If the house was not fit for habitation then it is of course a failure on the council's part but I have to 100% agree with mark by the sea and madzukun. The story is obviously somewhat fabricated. I live in the area that the macks live in and no other house has these issues to such a degree. But surely us tax payers will have to cough up to get them relocated so there is no problem. We buy our houses. We fix them up and are left to deal with all problems ourselves but these people whine and whine to the world about how bad their situation is. Im sure mr mack has at some point had to pay £800 for a plumbing job, has had to do his own eletrical work, has had to sacrifice all luxury and enjoyment so he can save for the damp and window to be sorted, so he has every right to moan about his free accomodation. He did at one point get a regular job at our local newsagents. He lasted 4 days and is now branded the skinny tattoed thief in this area because he stole, i believe it was, £3000 worth of their lottery scratchcards, from a small struggling family business. We would all come into the shop and see him and his well-fed wife going through whole packs of them. So in all honesty the kids should be moved to a near portslade school. The parents should Be made to work whatever day job is available. The benefits system has just become a way for people to not bother working or having an input to this country. But the tax payer as usual will bail all of them out against our will. We should all stop working and go on the doll! Him will that work out. Anyway this person and his unfortunate family are not wanted back in this area. We dont need that sort amongst us people that slave away for no reward or benefits. If the house is not good enough for them and their kids have to get up the samr time we all do for work then ship them over to burma or iran. Somewhere they will truly appreciate the meaning of self-sufficiency. Us people that pay these people free wages have no choice but to live off our own backs. I saved 7 years for just the deposit on my house. If there is a problem i am the man who supports his family who has to deal with it by work or pay. And then on top I have to pay for mr mack who cantbe bothered and his house is not 'fit' for him. Oh well. Be happy you are not on the street with your kids in foster care you waste of space.
For your info it was drop out of count because I didn't nick anything from the shop I worked they for about 6 months. I have 2 jobs and I PAY MY OWN WAY. My wife was 8 months pregnant at the time I was at the shop. I don't care what people say about the house but don't start on me or my family! I have reported this to the police for slander
[quote][p][bold]bison6[/bold] wrote: If the house was not fit for habitation then it is of course a failure on the council's part but I have to 100% agree with mark by the sea and madzukun. The story is obviously somewhat fabricated. I live in the area that the macks live in and no other house has these issues to such a degree. But surely us tax payers will have to cough up to get them relocated so there is no problem. We buy our houses. We fix them up and are left to deal with all problems ourselves but these people whine and whine to the world about how bad their situation is. Im sure mr mack has at some point had to pay £800 for a plumbing job, has had to do his own eletrical work, has had to sacrifice all luxury and enjoyment so he can save for the damp and window to be sorted, so he has every right to moan about his free accomodation. He did at one point get a regular job at our local newsagents. He lasted 4 days and is now branded the skinny tattoed thief in this area because he stole, i believe it was, £3000 worth of their lottery scratchcards, from a small struggling family business. We would all come into the shop and see him and his well-fed wife going through whole packs of them. So in all honesty the kids should be moved to a near portslade school. The parents should Be made to work whatever day job is available. The benefits system has just become a way for people to not bother working or having an input to this country. But the tax payer as usual will bail all of them out against our will. We should all stop working and go on the doll! Him will that work out. Anyway this person and his unfortunate family are not wanted back in this area. We dont need that sort amongst us people that slave away for no reward or benefits. If the house is not good enough for them and their kids have to get up the samr time we all do for work then ship them over to burma or iran. Somewhere they will truly appreciate the meaning of self-sufficiency. Us people that pay these people free wages have no choice but to live off our own backs. I saved 7 years for just the deposit on my house. If there is a problem i am the man who supports his family who has to deal with it by work or pay. And then on top I have to pay for mr mack who cantbe bothered and his house is not 'fit' for him. Oh well. Be happy you are not on the street with your kids in foster care you waste of space.[/p][/quote]For your info it was drop out of count because I didn't nick anything from the shop I worked they for about 6 months. I have 2 jobs and I PAY MY OWN WAY. My wife was 8 months pregnant at the time I was at the shop. I don't care what people say about the house but don't start on me or my family! I have reported this to the police for slander Haha 1984
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8:27am Sat 15 Mar 14

Haha 1984 says...

Brighton Living wrote:
Like the house this story is not fit for purpose. Get a job and save for deposit like the rest of us you loser.
I do work and it's down to the council to fix the problem in the house I am not a doll dossing loser
[quote][p][bold]Brighton Living[/bold] wrote: Like the house this story is not fit for purpose. Get a job and save for deposit like the rest of us you loser.[/p][/quote]I do work and it's down to the council to fix the problem in the house I am not a doll dossing loser Haha 1984
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