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Worthing mourners slam crematorium for removing tributes

The Argus: Worthing mourners slam crematorium for removing tributes Worthing mourners slam crematorium for removing tributes

Mourners have spoken of their heartbreak after trinkets left to loved ones were removed from a crematorium.

Some plaques and memorabilia were reportedly moved and people have said they are struggling to find the treasured items they left before council chiefs ordered their removal.

A petition has now been launched against the policy at Worthing Crematorium and people have shared their stories online. The petition has generated almost 700 clicks on Facebook and about 500 signatures online, while others have signed a paper petition.

Sheila Howell, 50, lost her sister Angela Mitchell and father Peter Brown last year – both have their ashes scattered in the crematorium’s Spring Glade. Her mother, Christina Brown, is also laid to rest in the crematorium.

Mrs Howell, of Worthing, said: “Within nine months of my dad passing away and six months of my sister passing away these items will be removed. We are still grieving over our loss.”

Jackie Offen shared her story on Facebook.

She said the policy was “shamefully disrespectful”, adding: “Both my parents and my brother’s ashes are under a tree planted in my brother’s memory. We cannot see if our tree is alright and cannot find our memorabilia.

“We could not find our vases in storage either.”

Tricia Dudman said: “If we had known this at the time we scattered Nan in the Spring Glade, we wouldn’t have chosen Worthing Crem as her resting place. Now it’s too late and we can’t exactly move her ashes.”

Sally Glover said: “Been up there today for mum’s birthday. All my mum’s and grandad’s stuff had gone, even the dreamcatchers we put in the trees. I’m so heartbroken.”

An anonymous poster said: “My dear dad’s ashes are there. I have only been able to visit him once as I live in Australia, and I left something personal from us, his family in Oz, on his little piece of West Sussex when I was there.

“I thought seeing all the tributes to loved ones there really enhanced the atmosphere and made it a loving, caring place where people come to celebrate and remember the lives of their loved ones.

“I can only assume that my little contribution has now been thrown in the garbage – a despicable act.”

Clive Roberts, Worthing council’s cabinet member for the environment, said: “We are aware of the petition.

“As regards memorabilia, Worthing Borough Council’s policy has always been to only allow fresh flowers or potted plants within the beautiful grounds at Worthing Crematorium, and we have always regularly removed unauthorised memorabilia as it is detrimental to the natural parkland and serenity of the setting.

“We do sympathise with anyone who has lost a loved one.

“It is a very difficult situation to manage and please everyone but we must remain firm.”

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7:45am Tue 18 Mar 14

Alison Smith says...

I'm sure the regulations were made clear at the time of the funeral? Your memories of a relative or friend will remain without a permanent object being left at the crematorium.
I'm sure the regulations were made clear at the time of the funeral? Your memories of a relative or friend will remain without a permanent object being left at the crematorium. Alison Smith
  • Score: 18

8:01am Tue 18 Mar 14

MISS JG says...

FIND US ON FACEBOOK & SIGN THE PETITION HERE THANKS :-)
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FIND US ON FACEBOOK & SIGN THE PETITION HERE THANKS :-) https://www.facebook .com/photo.php?v=626 211590761501&set=vb. 608998152482845&type =2&theater MISS JG
  • Score: -13

8:12am Tue 18 Mar 14

Sdhowell says...

I have been visiting the crematorium for over thirty years. Mourners have always left personal items in order to deal with their grief. All we request is that we are able to grieve in our own way. Not everyone can afford the prices the crematorium charge to have items in the memorial garden, which is also not permanent.
I have been visiting the crematorium for over thirty years. Mourners have always left personal items in order to deal with their grief. All we request is that we are able to grieve in our own way. Not everyone can afford the prices the crematorium charge to have items in the memorial garden, which is also not permanent. Sdhowell
  • Score: 0

8:18am Tue 18 Mar 14

MISS JG says...

Alison Smith wrote:
I'm sure the regulations were made clear at the time of the funeral? Your memories of a relative or friend will remain without a permanent object being left at the crematorium.
Please look at our page, some of these tributes have been there for many years, 35 yrs ago I left things for my grandad, my neice's had the things they left for there nanny lost or in the bin, https://www.facebook
.com/photo.php?v=626
211590761501&set=vb.
608998152482845&type
=2&theater
[quote][p][bold]Alison Smith[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the regulations were made clear at the time of the funeral? Your memories of a relative or friend will remain without a permanent object being left at the crematorium.[/p][/quote]Please look at our page, some of these tributes have been there for many years, 35 yrs ago I left things for my grandad, my neice's had the things they left for there nanny lost or in the bin, https://www.facebook .com/photo.php?v=626 211590761501&set=vb. 608998152482845&type =2&theater MISS JG
  • Score: -11

8:28am Tue 18 Mar 14

MISS JG says...

595 have signed on line :-)
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595 have signed on line :-) http://www.petitions 24.com/stop_worthing _crematorium_removin g_plaques__memorobil ia MISS JG
  • Score: -10

8:52am Tue 18 Mar 14

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

I'm going to be really unpopular here but my sympathies are with the Council. We've all got relatives and friends scattered up there but some of the tat that is left as 'memorials' is shocking. Left unchecked the place will soon resemble Brighton beach after a Bank Holiday. After World War One it was decided that all the dead, regardless of rank, would have the same memorial stone. A similar policy has to exist in civilian memorial grounds as one person's treasured trinkets are someone else's junk.

My sympathies with those who are upset, but I think the Council are broadly right.
I'm going to be really unpopular here but my sympathies are with the Council. We've all got relatives and friends scattered up there but some of the tat that is left as 'memorials' is shocking. Left unchecked the place will soon resemble Brighton beach after a Bank Holiday. After World War One it was decided that all the dead, regardless of rank, would have the same memorial stone. A similar policy has to exist in civilian memorial grounds as one person's treasured trinkets are someone else's junk. My sympathies with those who are upset, but I think the Council are broadly right. Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
  • Score: 25

9:54am Tue 18 Mar 14

JoannaW1 says...

we had a weekly basket of flowers that we hung from a branch on the tree where my mum's ashes were scattered. this was removed and dumped on the ground. There was nothing wrong with them hanging from the branch and WBC should be ashamed. They say flowers are fine! No notes were left at the area to advise where people's mementoes had gone and where they could retrieve them from. I emailed the crematorium last week and have not even had an acknowledgement of my email! disgusting.
we had a weekly basket of flowers that we hung from a branch on the tree where my mum's ashes were scattered. this was removed and dumped on the ground. There was nothing wrong with them hanging from the branch and WBC should be ashamed. They say flowers are fine! No notes were left at the area to advise where people's mementoes had gone and where they could retrieve them from. I emailed the crematorium last week and have not even had an acknowledgement of my email! disgusting. JoannaW1
  • Score: -7

4:10pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Made In Sussex says...

Where do you stop though? Surely if anyone can leave trinkets and mementos there comes a point where there will accumulate and they have. My nan was cremated and scattered in the spring glade and I go here to remember her, some of what is left here makes the place look cheap and tacky and leaving wind chimes is also disrespectful when some just want quiet reflection.
Where do you stop though? Surely if anyone can leave trinkets and mementos there comes a point where there will accumulate and they have. My nan was cremated and scattered in the spring glade and I go here to remember her, some of what is left here makes the place look cheap and tacky and leaving wind chimes is also disrespectful when some just want quiet reflection. Made In Sussex
  • Score: 6

6:26pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Over The Hill says...

The Argus have selected part of my comments to fit their story. On Facebook I posted a photo showing that they had cut down trees and put such a huge pile of what they had cut all over the tree that had been planted in memory of my brother. My "shamefully disrespectful" comment was because It was a few days before the anniversary of my brother's passing and we could not pay tribute. I am now not very happy with the Argus either!!!
The Argus have selected part of my comments to fit their story. On Facebook I posted a photo showing that they had cut down trees and put such a huge pile of what they had cut all over the tree that had been planted in memory of my brother. My "shamefully disrespectful" comment was because It was a few days before the anniversary of my brother's passing and we could not pay tribute. I am now not very happy with the Argus either!!! Over The Hill
  • Score: 2

7:54pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Shelleysimone says...

I have a little girl who is 8 .. When she was 5 her mummy died then 9 months later her mummy's partner died .. I now look after her .. We go and visit their resting place under a tree .she writes letters to her mummy,a windchime and Mother's Day heart. I know this has helped her a lot . I went up to the crematorium on Saturday to collect the things she has placed up there . It's awful what they have done up there . It looks like it's been vandalised .. It actually made me sick .. How can I tell this little girl that Clive Roberts now says you can't leave letters and gifts for your mummy .. No other word people than sick ...
I have a little girl who is 8 .. When she was 5 her mummy died then 9 months later her mummy's partner died .. I now look after her .. We go and visit their resting place under a tree .she writes letters to her mummy,a windchime and Mother's Day heart. I know this has helped her a lot . I went up to the crematorium on Saturday to collect the things she has placed up there . It's awful what they have done up there . It looks like it's been vandalised .. It actually made me sick .. How can I tell this little girl that Clive Roberts now says you can't leave letters and gifts for your mummy .. No other word people than sick ... Shelleysimone
  • Score: -3

9:07pm Tue 18 Mar 14

trezza03 says...

My mum's ashes are placed in a family plot, paid for!! To remove the metal plaque with a number and replace it with a heart shaped stone Is our right. U can't see it till your literally standing on it. The lawn can still be cut,tell me why did they rip it out of the ground? Slightly different to spring glade which is a shared garden.obviously items that have aged and look a mess should be removed to up keep the setting. But in my opinion seeing the little trinkets and letters in jars makes me smile.because it shows no one is forgotten! Shame on u worthing council. Some new rules and some understanding wouldn't go a miss! Maybe u will get some sleep after u have done the right thing!??? Because we wnt allow u to. Until u do!
My mum's ashes are placed in a family plot, paid for!! To remove the metal plaque with a number and replace it with a heart shaped stone Is our right. U can't see it till your literally standing on it. The lawn can still be cut,tell me why did they rip it out of the ground? Slightly different to spring glade which is a shared garden.obviously items that have aged and look a mess should be removed to up keep the setting. But in my opinion seeing the little trinkets and letters in jars makes me smile.because it shows no one is forgotten! Shame on u worthing council. Some new rules and some understanding wouldn't go a miss! Maybe u will get some sleep after u have done the right thing!??? Because we wnt allow u to. Until u do! trezza03
  • Score: 0

3:36am Wed 19 Mar 14

MISS JG says...

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote:
I'm going to be really unpopular here but my sympathies are with the Council. We've all got relatives and friends scattered up there but some of the tat that is left as 'memorials' is shocking. Left unchecked the place will soon resemble Brighton beach after a Bank Holiday. After World War One it was decided that all the dead, regardless of rank, would have the same memorial stone. A similar policy has to exist in civilian memorial grounds as one person's treasured trinkets are someone else's junk.

My sympathies with those who are upset, but I think the Council are broadly right.
My family's ashes aren't scattered they are together in a plot which had a numbered plaque, This was removed when we placed my mums ashes in the plot last april & was not replaced. We had a marble heart with there names on it made & placed it in the ground below mower level. The council dug it out of the ground. WHY? As for us all having the same., It's about money, You can have a personal named plaque on the memorial wall, If you can afford one, & the continuing lease costs to keep it on there' ? Some of the removed tributes date back 30- 40 years.. It seems there is an increase in memorabilai being left.. It's more about a decline of grounds maintanance..& surely they could of introduced new gulidlines to what is or isn't permitted. They have stripped everything & left it out by the bins :-( As for The wildlife & peace & tranquility of the surroundings?? The council permited Southdown gun club & a travellers site, on either side of the crematorium grounds, ??
[quote][p][bold]Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit[/bold] wrote: I'm going to be really unpopular here but my sympathies are with the Council. We've all got relatives and friends scattered up there but some of the tat that is left as 'memorials' is shocking. Left unchecked the place will soon resemble Brighton beach after a Bank Holiday. After World War One it was decided that all the dead, regardless of rank, would have the same memorial stone. A similar policy has to exist in civilian memorial grounds as one person's treasured trinkets are someone else's junk. My sympathies with those who are upset, but I think the Council are broadly right.[/p][/quote]My family's ashes aren't scattered they are together in a plot which had a numbered plaque, This was removed when we placed my mums ashes in the plot last april & was not replaced. We had a marble heart with there names on it made & placed it in the ground below mower level. The council dug it out of the ground. WHY? As for us all having the same., It's about money, You can have a personal named plaque on the memorial wall, If you can afford one, & the continuing lease costs to keep it on there' ? Some of the removed tributes date back 30- 40 years.. It seems there is an increase in memorabilai being left.. It's more about a decline of grounds maintanance..& surely they could of introduced new gulidlines to what is or isn't permitted. They have stripped everything & left it out by the bins :-( As for The wildlife & peace & tranquility of the surroundings?? The council permited Southdown gun club & a travellers site, on either side of the crematorium grounds, ?? MISS JG
  • Score: 2

3:36am Wed 19 Mar 14

MISS JG says...

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote:
I'm going to be really unpopular here but my sympathies are with the Council. We've all got relatives and friends scattered up there but some of the tat that is left as 'memorials' is shocking. Left unchecked the place will soon resemble Brighton beach after a Bank Holiday. After World War One it was decided that all the dead, regardless of rank, would have the same memorial stone. A similar policy has to exist in civilian memorial grounds as one person's treasured trinkets are someone else's junk.

My sympathies with those who are upset, but I think the Council are broadly right.
My family's ashes aren't scattered they are together in a plot which had a numbered plaque, This was removed when we placed my mums ashes in the plot last april & was not replaced. We had a marble heart with there names on it made & placed it in the ground below mower level. The council dug it out of the ground. WHY? As for us all having the same., It's about money, You can have a personal named plaque on the memorial wall, If you can afford one, & the continuing lease costs to keep it on there' ? Some of the removed tributes date back 30- 40 years.. It seems there is an increase in memorabilai being left.. It's more about a decline of grounds maintanance..& surely they could of introduced new gulidlines to what is or isn't permitted. They have stripped everything & left it out by the bins :-( As for The wildlife & peace & tranquility of the surroundings?? The council permited Southdown gun club & a travellers site, on either side of the crematorium grounds, ??
[quote][p][bold]Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit[/bold] wrote: I'm going to be really unpopular here but my sympathies are with the Council. We've all got relatives and friends scattered up there but some of the tat that is left as 'memorials' is shocking. Left unchecked the place will soon resemble Brighton beach after a Bank Holiday. After World War One it was decided that all the dead, regardless of rank, would have the same memorial stone. A similar policy has to exist in civilian memorial grounds as one person's treasured trinkets are someone else's junk. My sympathies with those who are upset, but I think the Council are broadly right.[/p][/quote]My family's ashes aren't scattered they are together in a plot which had a numbered plaque, This was removed when we placed my mums ashes in the plot last april & was not replaced. We had a marble heart with there names on it made & placed it in the ground below mower level. The council dug it out of the ground. WHY? As for us all having the same., It's about money, You can have a personal named plaque on the memorial wall, If you can afford one, & the continuing lease costs to keep it on there' ? Some of the removed tributes date back 30- 40 years.. It seems there is an increase in memorabilai being left.. It's more about a decline of grounds maintanance..& surely they could of introduced new gulidlines to what is or isn't permitted. They have stripped everything & left it out by the bins :-( As for The wildlife & peace & tranquility of the surroundings?? The council permited Southdown gun club & a travellers site, on either side of the crematorium grounds, ?? MISS JG
  • Score: 1

9:40am Wed 19 Mar 14

Sdhowell says...

There seem to be a lot of negativity on here I was just wondering if these are coming from people who don't have people at the crematorium, I have 5 family members there. I can't afford to pay out for stuff from the crematorium that is why so many people put their own memorabilia up there. I have been going up there for over thirty years and this has always been done.
There seem to be a lot of negativity on here I was just wondering if these are coming from people who don't have people at the crematorium, I have 5 family members there. I can't afford to pay out for stuff from the crematorium that is why so many people put their own memorabilia up there. I have been going up there for over thirty years and this has always been done. Sdhowell
  • Score: 0

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