Firms carry on after seafront collapse shock

Laurence Hill, manager of the Fortune of War

Laurence Hill, manager of the Fortune of War

First published in News

Stoic business owners are carrying on regardless today despite part of Brighton seafront remaining closed.

Businesses in Kings Road are determined to trade despite the shock of subsidence which caused part of the seafront to collapse into a pub in the historic arches.

It is feared that the eastbound A259, a major transport route through the city, could remain closed between West Street and Ship Street for weeks while engineers investigate the full extent of the problem.

The road came caving in on the Fortune of War pub in the Kings Road Arches on Friday morning after workmen trying to repair a leak at the back of the pub removed a piece of plywood in the roof, causing tonnes of earth and rocks to fall in and expos a six foot hole.

Engineers working on behalf of the council carried out more work on Saturday and more news on the length of the closure is expected either today or tomorrow.

In the meantime the Fortune Of War and other seafront traders including the Umi Hotel and Little Bay Restaurant remain open.

Laurence Hill, manager of the Fortune of War, said: “We are still open except for the fact that we have had to shut off the back area.

“It means we have had to shut off our toilets and are asking customers to use the council toilets nearby.

“It’s not ideal but at least we are still open.

“We have not had any developments over the weekend, a team of surveyors are coming back on Monday morning but no idea yet how long it might take, it looks like a big job.”

Robert Grzywaczewski, duty manager at the Umi Hotel, said: “On the first day we were told that we might have to evacuate but fortunately that wasn’t the case.

“We have heard nothing since then.

“The only problem is there’s limited access to the Russell Road Car Park and guests have to move further down the road to get a taxi but we are still able to operate.”

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10:23am Mon 28 Apr 14

_craig says...

"Stoic business owners are carrying on regardless today despite part of Brighton seafront remaining closed."

How exactly does closing a thoroughfare affect these local businesses, there is no immediate parking and there are other routes, even if it meant removing bus only restrictions for the duration of this unforeseen situation?

Are you allowed to be open without public toilets?

PS Put the plywood back and fill in the hole - seems to have worked for years in the past...
"Stoic business owners are carrying on regardless today despite part of Brighton seafront remaining closed." How exactly does closing a thoroughfare affect these local businesses, there is no immediate parking and there are other routes, even if it meant removing bus only restrictions for the duration of this unforeseen situation? Are you allowed to be open without public toilets? PS Put the plywood back and fill in the hole - seems to have worked for years in the past... _craig
  • Score: 2

11:03am Mon 28 Apr 14

spa301 says...

How did a 'piece of plywood' support tonnes of earth and rock for so long?!
If there is an incident in North Street and the buses need re directing this was their normal plan B route. Lets hope there are no incidents as it'll cause even further chaos.
This issue needs to be resolved with the utmost urgency.
How did a 'piece of plywood' support tonnes of earth and rock for so long?! If there is an incident in North Street and the buses need re directing this was their normal plan B route. Lets hope there are no incidents as it'll cause even further chaos. This issue needs to be resolved with the utmost urgency. spa301
  • Score: 23

12:50pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Fairfax Aches says...

The council can spend tens of millions on pointless traffic schemes which do nothing other than reduce the quality of life of its residents, whilst its once great seafront and city centre slowly but surely crumble and fall into rack and ruin. This council makes me sick to my stomach.
The council can spend tens of millions on pointless traffic schemes which do nothing other than reduce the quality of life of its residents, whilst its once great seafront and city centre slowly but surely crumble and fall into rack and ruin. This council makes me sick to my stomach. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: 31

1:27pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Mr chock says...

_craig wrote:
"Stoic business owners are carrying on regardless today despite part of Brighton seafront remaining closed."

How exactly does closing a thoroughfare affect these local businesses, there is no immediate parking and there are other routes, even if it meant removing bus only restrictions for the duration of this unforeseen situation?

Are you allowed to be open without public toilets?

PS Put the plywood back and fill in the hole - seems to have worked for years in the past...
HAHA yes indeed Stoic ... " today 28 April " i was down along the sea front and the Stoic clean up after the March for britain event has cleaned that all away even the Vote Ukip graffiti is gone "!!! so brighton council had to waist many many pounds on that ................
The road came caving in on the Fortune of War pub in the Kings Road Arches on Friday morning after workmen trying to repair a leak at the back of the pub removed a piece of plywood in the roof, causing tonnes of earth and rocks to fall in and expos a six foot hole.
the arches all along there are brick vault style and the planks of wood they are talking about are the shuttering over OVER "to dress that old damp dusty brick up .. take a look in some of the other beach front arches and you will see the bricks have really come to the end of there life ... VICTORIAN bricks how old are they ? how long before the next tiny tiny bit of building work cause another cave in .... .. Laurence Hill looks all glumb but his got a tiny bit of publicity out of it and the insurance from the builders will cover the costs ..100% sure of that !!!
[quote][p][bold]_craig[/bold] wrote: "Stoic business owners are carrying on regardless today despite part of Brighton seafront remaining closed." How exactly does closing a thoroughfare affect these local businesses, there is no immediate parking and there are other routes, even if it meant removing bus only restrictions for the duration of this unforeseen situation? Are you allowed to be open without public toilets? PS Put the plywood back and fill in the hole - seems to have worked for years in the past...[/p][/quote]HAHA yes indeed Stoic ... " today 28 April " i was down along the sea front and the Stoic clean up after the March for britain event has cleaned that all away even the Vote Ukip graffiti is gone "!!! so brighton council had to waist many many pounds on that ................ The road came caving in on the Fortune of War pub in the Kings Road Arches on Friday morning after workmen trying to repair a leak at the back of the pub removed a piece of plywood in the roof, causing tonnes of earth and rocks to fall in and expos a six foot hole. the arches all along there are brick vault style and the planks of wood they are talking about are the shuttering over OVER "to dress that old damp dusty brick up .. take a look in some of the other beach front arches and you will see the bricks have really come to the end of there life ... VICTORIAN bricks how old are they ? how long before the next tiny tiny bit of building work cause another cave in .... .. Laurence Hill looks all glumb but his got a tiny bit of publicity out of it and the insurance from the builders will cover the costs ..100% sure of that !!! Mr chock
  • Score: 4

1:43pm Mon 28 Apr 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

I wouldn't want to go into any building along the seafront whilst there's the danger of it collapsing.

I'd advise everyone to steer well clear of this area for a very long time.
I wouldn't want to go into any building along the seafront whilst there's the danger of it collapsing. I'd advise everyone to steer well clear of this area for a very long time. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: -2

1:58pm Mon 28 Apr 14

rayellerton says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
I wouldn't want to go into any building along the seafront whilst there's the danger of it collapsing.

I'd advise everyone to steer well clear of this area for a very long time.
the buildings along Kings Road will be fine as they are built onto the bedrock chalk...the road however is raised on Victorian brick arches similar to the railway viaduct crossing Preston Road.
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want to go into any building along the seafront whilst there's the danger of it collapsing. I'd advise everyone to steer well clear of this area for a very long time.[/p][/quote]the buildings along Kings Road will be fine as they are built onto the bedrock chalk...the road however is raised on Victorian brick arches similar to the railway viaduct crossing Preston Road. rayellerton
  • Score: 8

3:09pm Mon 28 Apr 14

spa301 says...

rayellerton wrote:
getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
I wouldn't want to go into any building along the seafront whilst there's the danger of it collapsing.

I'd advise everyone to steer well clear of this area for a very long time.
the buildings along Kings Road will be fine as they are built onto the bedrock chalk...the road however is raised on Victorian brick arches similar to the railway viaduct crossing Preston Road.
Ray, I find that sort of information and knowledge fascinating. Where can you source old Brighton building info from?
[quote][p][bold]rayellerton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want to go into any building along the seafront whilst there's the danger of it collapsing. I'd advise everyone to steer well clear of this area for a very long time.[/p][/quote]the buildings along Kings Road will be fine as they are built onto the bedrock chalk...the road however is raised on Victorian brick arches similar to the railway viaduct crossing Preston Road.[/p][/quote]Ray, I find that sort of information and knowledge fascinating. Where can you source old Brighton building info from? spa301
  • Score: 1

4:00pm Mon 28 Apr 14

BURIRAM says...

Pubs need there own toilets to be able to open.
Pubs need there own toilets to be able to open. BURIRAM
  • Score: 0

4:08pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Brighton Living says...

Mr chock wrote:
_craig wrote:
"Stoic business owners are carrying on regardless today despite part of Brighton seafront remaining closed.Mmmmmmmm didn't the paper report there were £100m of repairs needed to the see front ......100% sure of that !!!. Also just for your information Kings road is only good for 140 ton maximum but this wont stop cranes or HGV using it without anybody knowing as nobody is really aware as there is no signage, add the wet weather and yes the road will start to collapse. .
[quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]_craig[/bold] wrote: "Stoic business owners are carrying on regardless today despite part of Brighton seafront remaining closed.Mmmmmmmm didn't the paper report there were £100m of repairs needed to the see front ......100% sure of that !!!. Also just for your information Kings road is only good for 140 ton maximum but this wont stop cranes or HGV using it without anybody knowing as nobody is really aware as there is no signage, add the wet weather and yes the road will start to collapse. . Brighton Living
  • Score: 3

5:14pm Mon 28 Apr 14

pumpkineater23 says...

I think the best way forward is to just let nature take it's course and leave the seafront and the road to crumble away. There are far more important things to be done first.. for example where is our giant £40 million pole?
I think the best way forward is to just let nature take it's course and leave the seafront and the road to crumble away. There are far more important things to be done first.. for example where is our giant £40 million pole? pumpkineater23
  • Score: -4

5:29pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Hovite says...

The Argus should have titled this story " MisFortune Of War"
The Argus should have titled this story " MisFortune Of War" Hovite
  • Score: 4

11:47pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Russjackal says...

BURIRAM wrote:
Pubs need there own toilets to be able to open.
Not if they don't sell food, and to be honest it's not such a bad idea using the council ones as its a well known fact the fortunes toilets are among the smelliest most disgusting pub toilets in town
[quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Pubs need there own toilets to be able to open.[/p][/quote]Not if they don't sell food, and to be honest it's not such a bad idea using the council ones as its a well known fact the fortunes toilets are among the smelliest most disgusting pub toilets in town Russjackal
  • Score: -4

3:02am Tue 29 Apr 14

Zeta Function says...

What's the frigate doing south of the pier?

We watched it heading south west, inching bit by bit, this evening.

Any trouble expected?
What's the frigate doing south of the pier? We watched it heading south west, inching bit by bit, this evening. Any trouble expected? Zeta Function
  • Score: 1

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