Protesters chant "fascist" outside UKIP meeting

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Protesters jeer "fascist" at UKIP meeting

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VISITORS to a UKIP meeting were jeered and chanted at by protesters in Hove on Tuesday night.

Around 50 people from campaign groups including Stand Up To UKIP gathered outside the Ralli Memorial Hall where residents were invited to meet UKIP European election candidates Patricia Culligan and Alan Stevens.

Supporters of the Euro-sceptic party standing on the steps of the hall responded to shouts of "UKIP go home" by saying "We are home" back at the protesters.

UKIP members and residents waited outside under the watch of police and also a security guard who had been hired by the party.

Prior to the meeting party officials had formally asked the chief constable to arrest any protesters who called party members 'fascists', arguing they would be committing a hate crime under the Public Order Act.

A total of two police vans were parked up with four officers stood by the protesters on the pavement outside the hall.

There were isolated shouts of "fascist" and protesters chanted "UKIP, UKIP, UKIP - racist, racist, racist", to which the police did not respond .

Protesters held placards saying "no to racism, no to bigotry, no to UKIP" and "Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians".

A UKIP supporter who asked not to be named, said of the protesters: " I think they're just bullies. Why don't they have a debate with us?

“I've got two Indians living with me. How can I be racist?"

One group of protesters held a banner saying: "We are all migrants".

Before entering the meeting the MEP candidate Ms Culligan said: "I agree with that banner. We have a lot more in common than those people outside realise.

“I want to be able to welcome people into this county from all over the world. We can't do that with an open door policy."

Janice Atkinson, chairwoman of UKIP South East, said before the meeting: “UKIP is the third party of politics, has 100s of councillors, is expected to come top in the European elections and should not be intimidated by rabble rousers.

“This rabble is the type of people Brighton attracts and the fact that there is a Green council only attracts more oddballs," she said.

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7:59pm Tue 13 May 14

We love Red Billy says...

Ironic that the anti UKIP wear black shirts.
Ironic that the anti UKIP wear black shirts. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 63

8:00pm Tue 13 May 14

rayellerton says...

Is that all they have got? Why not debate alternative policies if you dont agree with those of UKIP? By just trying to shout down people engaged in the democratic process they just show themselves to be both moral and political paupers. Let's face it they dont care about our national way of life, its just another excuse to turn up in hope of a punch up...what a pathetic bunch
Is that all they have got? Why not debate alternative policies if you dont agree with those of UKIP? By just trying to shout down people engaged in the democratic process they just show themselves to be both moral and political paupers. Let's face it they dont care about our national way of life, its just another excuse to turn up in hope of a punch up...what a pathetic bunch rayellerton
  • Score: 83

8:10pm Tue 13 May 14

BornInBrighton1968 says...

I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right... BornInBrighton1968
  • Score: 79

8:49pm Tue 13 May 14

Edward H says...

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
The establishment that's who.

Britain has become a corrupt country and our democracy has been undermined. We are now living in dangerous and disturbing times.
[quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]The establishment that's who. Britain has become a corrupt country and our democracy has been undermined. We are now living in dangerous and disturbing times. Edward H
  • Score: 59

8:58pm Tue 13 May 14

thelieshurts says...

Looking at the photo they look more like the Green party supporters.
They don't look like friends of the Torys,
More suited to Balcomb and squatting in empty shops.
What plans have the u.a.f got for the election ? ( put it in small case ) their not important enough.
If they don't like it they know what to do on the 22nd.
Looking at the photo they look more like the Green party supporters. They don't look like friends of the Torys, More suited to Balcomb and squatting in empty shops. What plans have the u.a.f got for the election ? ( put it in small case ) their not important enough. If they don't like it they know what to do on the 22nd. thelieshurts
  • Score: 55

9:02pm Tue 13 May 14

NathanAdler says...

I walked past the rabble of protesters earlier and I still have the smell of stale urine in my nostrils. Whatever they are trying to say, please use some soap!!

Absolute filth, the lot of them.
I walked past the rabble of protesters earlier and I still have the smell of stale urine in my nostrils. Whatever they are trying to say, please use some soap!! Absolute filth, the lot of them. NathanAdler
  • Score: 51

9:07pm Tue 13 May 14

ARMANA says...

Edward H wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
The establishment that's who.

Britain has become a corrupt country and our democracy has been undermined. We are now living in dangerous and disturbing times.
You ain't seen nothing yet, you wait till the world markets put up interest rates, The U.K owe more than Cyprus, Greece , & Spain & Italy. put together, Hells coming to dinner, pay off any credit you have, AS SOON AS YOU CAN, !!!
[quote][p][bold]Edward H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]The establishment that's who. Britain has become a corrupt country and our democracy has been undermined. We are now living in dangerous and disturbing times.[/p][/quote]You ain't seen nothing yet, you wait till the world markets put up interest rates, The U.K owe more than Cyprus, Greece , & Spain & Italy. put together, Hells coming to dinner, pay off any credit you have, AS SOON AS YOU CAN, !!! ARMANA
  • Score: 19

9:51pm Tue 13 May 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Strange, bigots holding placards saying no to bigotry !

Anyone know why these people, who claim to abhor violence, are always so confrontational ?
Strange, bigots holding placards saying no to bigotry ! Anyone know why these people, who claim to abhor violence, are always so confrontational ? Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 55

9:57pm Tue 13 May 14

Vigilia says...

"No to bigotry."
Please, please, consult your Oxford English Dictionaries to understand what the word bigotry means.
This applies to Caroline Lucas as well for the photograph in which she posed with two grinning local women holding a placard stating, "Brighton and Hove united against bigotry."
I don't know what discipline her doctorate was in, but it certainly wasn't English.
"No to bigotry." Please, please, consult your Oxford English Dictionaries to understand what the word bigotry means. This applies to Caroline Lucas as well for the photograph in which she posed with two grinning local women holding a placard stating, "Brighton and Hove united against bigotry." I don't know what discipline her doctorate was in, but it certainly wasn't English. Vigilia
  • Score: 42

10:05pm Tue 13 May 14

HJarrs says...

While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end.

I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!).

There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA.

"Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.
While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end. I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!). There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA. "Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that. HJarrs
  • Score: -33

10:18pm Tue 13 May 14

FatherTed11 says...

Bloddy green supporting students.
Bloddy green supporting students. FatherTed11
  • Score: 25

10:23pm Tue 13 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

A wonderful evening!

The stench from the crowd outside wasn't that bad, mainly because the temperature wasn't that of a midsummers day. Quite why some of them chose to turn up and cover their faces wasn't explained - it wasn't as if anyone had made them turn up.

Inside, we were treated to a question asked by someone who announced he was part of the local Greens. What fiendish awkward question did he ask in order to pour water on UKIP's fire? I'll paraphrase: "Does UKIP place greater store on uniforms for taxi drivers or climate change?" I'm surprised no-one laughed at him, but we were all very polite, probably because we were wondering what time his carer was collecting him.

The rain drove the UAF thugs away, as we know they are strangers to getting wet.
A wonderful evening! The stench from the crowd outside wasn't that bad, mainly because the temperature wasn't that of a midsummers day. Quite why some of them chose to turn up and cover their faces wasn't explained - it wasn't as if anyone had made them turn up. Inside, we were treated to a question asked by someone who announced he was part of the local Greens. What fiendish awkward question did he ask in order to pour water on UKIP's fire? I'll paraphrase: "Does UKIP place greater store on uniforms for taxi drivers or climate change?" I'm surprised no-one laughed at him, but we were all very polite, probably because we were wondering what time his carer was collecting him. The rain drove the UAF thugs away, as we know they are strangers to getting wet. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 33

10:34pm Tue 13 May 14

Psssst says...

NathanAdler wrote:
I walked past the rabble of protesters earlier and I still have the smell of stale urine in my nostrils. Whatever they are trying to say, please use some soap!!

Absolute filth, the lot of them.
Ah **** your pants did you?
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: I walked past the rabble of protesters earlier and I still have the smell of stale urine in my nostrils. Whatever they are trying to say, please use some soap!! Absolute filth, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]Ah **** your pants did you? Psssst
  • Score: -12

10:50pm Tue 13 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

HJarrs wrote:
While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end.

I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!).

There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA.

"Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.
Do you get a kick of posting utter ****?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end. I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!). There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA. "Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.[/p][/quote]Do you get a kick of posting utter ****? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 16

11:08pm Tue 13 May 14

Philhove says...

I went tonight out of curiosity to find out from the horses mouth about UKIP.

I defend the protesters right to demonstrate which they certainly did quite noisily and thoroughly aired there points. They were in no way violent and I respect them for that.

I lived in Eastern Europe for many years in times when you could not freely air your views . That is one of the reasons I love this democracy.

UKIP were also very informative and open and having listened carefully and debated at that meeting, I have no idea where all this racist or other nonsense comes from and I am so glad I went and got some actual facts.

It is amazing until you actually do debate with people you can have some bigoted views which you pick up from the press or your mates. I discovered tonight for example, the guy standing for UKIP in Hove Portslade who spoke is in fact a minister (Baptist or Methodist in Peacehaven ?) whom I now totally respect. for what he does for those much less fortunate than he in this town.. I really did not expect that. Good man.
I went tonight out of curiosity to find out from the horses mouth about UKIP. I defend the protesters right to demonstrate which they certainly did quite noisily and thoroughly aired there points. They were in no way violent and I respect them for that. I lived in Eastern Europe for many years in times when you could not freely air your views . That is one of the reasons I love this democracy. UKIP were also very informative and open and having listened carefully and debated at that meeting, I have no idea where all this racist or other nonsense comes from and I am so glad I went and got some actual facts. It is amazing until you actually do debate with people you can have some bigoted views which you pick up from the press or your mates. I discovered tonight for example, the guy standing for UKIP in Hove Portslade who spoke is in fact a minister (Baptist or Methodist in Peacehaven ?) whom I now totally respect. for what he does for those much less fortunate than he in this town.. I really did not expect that. Good man. Philhove
  • Score: 37

11:24pm Tue 13 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

HJarrs wrote:
While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end.

I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!).

There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA.

"Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.
What's a Rumanian?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end. I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!). There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA. "Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.[/p][/quote]What's a Rumanian? thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: -7

12:17am Wed 14 May 14

clubrob6 says...

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
The UAF is government funded,it travels the country causing violence and abuse where ever it goes.Whenever there is say a EDL or BNP event the UAF turn up lots of them with there faces covered just to cause trouble.I have looked on the UAF website they have a string of supporters including Cameron and many MPs.But to be fair to Cameron when he pledged his support the UAF had not been took over by extremists.It must also be noted that one of Lee Rigby's murderers was a main speaker at UAF demonstrations I did not believe this at first but its plain to see on youtube at a 2009 UAF event.I think the government are ignoring the actions of this now extremist violent group is because they now target UKIP events.The UAF is trying to remove freedom of speech by force and is by far the most fascist violent group in the country and should now be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.The UKIP is not a racist group the actual racists are the UAF,its because of this group who I nearly joined as I was against the EDL but quickly learned that the UAF are actually more Fascist than the groups they object to that I have VOTED UKIP AND PROUD TO HAVE DONE IT,my postal vote has already been cast.
[quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]The UAF is government funded,it travels the country causing violence and abuse where ever it goes.Whenever there is say a EDL or BNP event the UAF turn up lots of them with there faces covered just to cause trouble.I have looked on the UAF website they have a string of supporters including Cameron and many MPs.But to be fair to Cameron when he pledged his support the UAF had not been took over by extremists.It must also be noted that one of Lee Rigby's murderers was a main speaker at UAF demonstrations I did not believe this at first but its plain to see on youtube at a 2009 UAF event.I think the government are ignoring the actions of this now extremist violent group is because they now target UKIP events.The UAF is trying to remove freedom of speech by force and is by far the most fascist violent group in the country and should now be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.The UKIP is not a racist group the actual racists are the UAF,its because of this group who I nearly joined as I was against the EDL but quickly learned that the UAF are actually more Fascist than the groups they object to that I have VOTED UKIP AND PROUD TO HAVE DONE IT,my postal vote has already been cast. clubrob6
  • Score: 20

12:18am Wed 14 May 14

clubrob6 says...

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
The UAF is government funded,it travels the country causing violence and abuse where ever it goes.Whenever there is say a EDL or BNP event the UAF turn up lots of them with there faces covered just to cause trouble.I have looked on the UAF website they have a string of supporters including Cameron and many MPs.But to be fair to Cameron when he pledged his support the UAF had not been took over by extremists.It must also be noted that one of Lee Rigby's murderers was a main speaker at UAF demonstrations I did not believe this at first but its plain to see on youtube at a 2009 UAF event.I think the government are ignoring the actions of this now extremist violent group is because they now target UKIP events.The UAF is trying to remove freedom of speech by force and is by far the most fascist violent group in the country and should now be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.The UKIP is not a racist group the actual racists are the UAF,its because of this group who I nearly joined as I was against the EDL but quickly learned that the UAF are actually more Fascist than the groups they object to that I have VOTED UKIP AND PROUD TO HAVE DONE IT,my postal vote has already been cast.
[quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]The UAF is government funded,it travels the country causing violence and abuse where ever it goes.Whenever there is say a EDL or BNP event the UAF turn up lots of them with there faces covered just to cause trouble.I have looked on the UAF website they have a string of supporters including Cameron and many MPs.But to be fair to Cameron when he pledged his support the UAF had not been took over by extremists.It must also be noted that one of Lee Rigby's murderers was a main speaker at UAF demonstrations I did not believe this at first but its plain to see on youtube at a 2009 UAF event.I think the government are ignoring the actions of this now extremist violent group is because they now target UKIP events.The UAF is trying to remove freedom of speech by force and is by far the most fascist violent group in the country and should now be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.The UKIP is not a racist group the actual racists are the UAF,its because of this group who I nearly joined as I was against the EDL but quickly learned that the UAF are actually more Fascist than the groups they object to that I have VOTED UKIP AND PROUD TO HAVE DONE IT,my postal vote has already been cast. clubrob6
  • Score: 10

12:46am Wed 14 May 14

clubrob6 says...

ARMANA wrote:
Edward H wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
The establishment that's who.

Britain has become a corrupt country and our democracy has been undermined. We are now living in dangerous and disturbing times.
You ain't seen nothing yet, you wait till the world markets put up interest rates, The U.K owe more than Cyprus, Greece , & Spain & Italy. put together, Hells coming to dinner, pay off any credit you have, AS SOON AS YOU CAN, !!!
You are right when interest rates go up the UK will NOT be able to pay its debts FACT.Osbourne has not realise this as he has no accountancy experience.
[quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Edward H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]The establishment that's who. Britain has become a corrupt country and our democracy has been undermined. We are now living in dangerous and disturbing times.[/p][/quote]You ain't seen nothing yet, you wait till the world markets put up interest rates, The U.K owe more than Cyprus, Greece , & Spain & Italy. put together, Hells coming to dinner, pay off any credit you have, AS SOON AS YOU CAN, !!![/p][/quote]You are right when interest rates go up the UK will NOT be able to pay its debts FACT.Osbourne has not realise this as he has no accountancy experience. clubrob6
  • Score: 11

1:47am Wed 14 May 14

Zeta Function says...

Just to remind people what fascism is about: The main elements are an anti-liberal authoritarian state, the promotion of a superior elite over inferior others, the promotion of war and violence as a means to unify the state, the purging of defined inferior others, the expansion of the state through military victories. A populist charismatic leader.
Just to remind people what fascism is about: The main elements are an anti-liberal authoritarian state, the promotion of a superior elite over inferior others, the promotion of war and violence as a means to unify the state, the purging of defined inferior others, the expansion of the state through military victories. A populist charismatic leader. Zeta Function
  • Score: -4

1:47am Wed 14 May 14

Zeta Function says...

Just to remind people what fascism is about: The main elements are an anti-liberal authoritarian state, the promotion of a superior elite over inferior others, the promotion of war and violence as a means to unify the state, the purging of defined inferior others, the expansion of the state through military victories. A populist charismatic leader.
Just to remind people what fascism is about: The main elements are an anti-liberal authoritarian state, the promotion of a superior elite over inferior others, the promotion of war and violence as a means to unify the state, the purging of defined inferior others, the expansion of the state through military victories. A populist charismatic leader. Zeta Function
  • Score: -5

2:11am Wed 14 May 14

p a t r i c k says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end.

I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!).

There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA.

"Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.
What's a Rumanian?
The name of the country Romania can also be spelt Rumania. Indeed that was how it was spelt for many years in the UK.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end. I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!). There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA. "Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.[/p][/quote]What's a Rumanian?[/p][/quote]The name of the country Romania can also be spelt Rumania. Indeed that was how it was spelt for many years in the UK. p a t r i c k
  • Score: 10

2:16am Wed 14 May 14

p a t r i c k says...

I live near to the Rolli hall in Hove and I went to have a look at the protestors. The protestors were a very nice lot, quite cheerful and happy. The UKIP representatives were miserable looking.

UKIP made a song and dance before this meeting that they were going to be threatened or intimidated, but this was totally absurd. There was a big police turnout, a great deal of police time was wasted by UKIP's claims that there were going to be victims of some sort of intimidation.

There was only a handful of people in the hall, but many many more outside protesting.

All in all I think the protestors did a very good job and I hope that they continue to protest at all UKIP's meetings.
I live near to the Rolli hall in Hove and I went to have a look at the protestors. The protestors were a very nice lot, quite cheerful and happy. The UKIP representatives were miserable looking. UKIP made a song and dance before this meeting that they were going to be threatened or intimidated, but this was totally absurd. There was a big police turnout, a great deal of police time was wasted by UKIP's claims that there were going to be victims of some sort of intimidation. There was only a handful of people in the hall, but many many more outside protesting. All in all I think the protestors did a very good job and I hope that they continue to protest at all UKIP's meetings. p a t r i c k
  • Score: -38

6:05am Wed 14 May 14

Barry1812 says...

rayellerton wrote:
Is that all they have got? Why not debate alternative policies if you dont agree with those of UKIP? By just trying to shout down people engaged in the democratic process they just show themselves to be both moral and political paupers. Let's face it they dont care about our national way of life, its just another excuse to turn up in hope of a punch up...what a pathetic bunch
I'm not Fascist nor anti gay but I will be voting UKIP to get control of our country back from the EU
[quote][p][bold]rayellerton[/bold] wrote: Is that all they have got? Why not debate alternative policies if you dont agree with those of UKIP? By just trying to shout down people engaged in the democratic process they just show themselves to be both moral and political paupers. Let's face it they dont care about our national way of life, its just another excuse to turn up in hope of a punch up...what a pathetic bunch[/p][/quote]I'm not Fascist nor anti gay but I will be voting UKIP to get control of our country back from the EU Barry1812
  • Score: 29

6:57am Wed 14 May 14

Gribbet says...

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
It's a bit like whenever an article about the Green Party gets written on here and you adopt your Green_Girl_1990 alter-ego posting name, then write a load of rubbish to agitate the anti-green commenters.
[quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]It's a bit like whenever an article about the Green Party gets written on here and you adopt your Green_Girl_1990 alter-ego posting name, then write a load of rubbish to agitate the anti-green commenters. Gribbet
  • Score: -8

7:04am Wed 14 May 14

Gribbet says...

Edward H wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
The establishment that's who.

Britain has become a corrupt country and our democracy has been undermined. We are now living in dangerous and disturbing times.
Britain ceased to be a democracy a long time ago, it's been a corrupt plutocracy for a long, long time. UKIP like it that way and aren't about to change that.
[quote][p][bold]Edward H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]The establishment that's who. Britain has become a corrupt country and our democracy has been undermined. We are now living in dangerous and disturbing times.[/p][/quote]Britain ceased to be a democracy a long time ago, it's been a corrupt plutocracy for a long, long time. UKIP like it that way and aren't about to change that. Gribbet
  • Score: -15

7:23am Wed 14 May 14

HJarrs says...

Interesting that this morning the leader of UKIP's youth wing has resigned stating the overt racism of campaigning as a reason.

I can imagine scenarios for leaving the EU, and wanting to leave is not racist, but UKIP is a vehicle for little Englanders to blame foreigners for our woes.

The irony of a high vote for UKIP on the 22nd May will be a poll boost for Alex Samond on the 23rd May. It could well be that voting UKIP will be a factor for the Scots voting for independence.

And if you read the last UKIP manifesto you will find taxi driver uniforms higher up the agenda than that piffling issue of climate change!
Interesting that this morning the leader of UKIP's youth wing has resigned stating the overt racism of campaigning as a reason. I can imagine scenarios for leaving the EU, and wanting to leave is not racist, but UKIP is a vehicle for little Englanders to blame foreigners for our woes. The irony of a high vote for UKIP on the 22nd May will be a poll boost for Alex Samond on the 23rd May. It could well be that voting UKIP will be a factor for the Scots voting for independence. And if you read the last UKIP manifesto you will find taxi driver uniforms higher up the agenda than that piffling issue of climate change! HJarrs
  • Score: -20

8:05am Wed 14 May 14

salty_pete says...

HJarrs, you do peddle some of the most awful scaremongering spin I've had the misfortune to read. Are things really so desperate in the Green camp? And making slurs against your countrymen is quite a bad move.
HJarrs, you do peddle some of the most awful scaremongering spin I've had the misfortune to read. Are things really so desperate in the Green camp? And making slurs against your countrymen is quite a bad move. salty_pete
  • Score: 19

8:25am Wed 14 May 14

argchat says...

The people holding boards up calling UKIP names need to look at the bigger picture here. May be they should look at the poverty that is now present in Southern Europe and also look at the numbers of illegal immigrants trying to cross in to the EU every single day. They would be better protesting against the EU because that is the real problem. Why is the EU not working with countries outside the EU to make sure these people don't make these dangerous journeys before there are any more disasters? I'm afraid we are only getting one side of the story from our own politicians. Think about it for a second, keep expanding the EU zone, your just driving more and more poverty, and your driving more and more people from outside the EU in search of a better life, without having the jobs, homes or resources to back this up in the future. When UKIP say the door is open to millions of people they are actually right. If you think what I am saying is wrong, just check it out online.
The people holding boards up calling UKIP names need to look at the bigger picture here. May be they should look at the poverty that is now present in Southern Europe and also look at the numbers of illegal immigrants trying to cross in to the EU every single day. They would be better protesting against the EU because that is the real problem. Why is the EU not working with countries outside the EU to make sure these people don't make these dangerous journeys before there are any more disasters? I'm afraid we are only getting one side of the story from our own politicians. Think about it for a second, keep expanding the EU zone, your just driving more and more poverty, and your driving more and more people from outside the EU in search of a better life, without having the jobs, homes or resources to back this up in the future. When UKIP say the door is open to millions of people they are actually right. If you think what I am saying is wrong, just check it out online. argchat
  • Score: 16

8:31am Wed 14 May 14

JohnnyHornet says...

p a t r i c k wrote:
I live near to the Rolli hall in Hove and I went to have a look at the protestors. The protestors were a very nice lot, quite cheerful and happy. The UKIP representatives were miserable looking.

UKIP made a song and dance before this meeting that they were going to be threatened or intimidated, but this was totally absurd. There was a big police turnout, a great deal of police time was wasted by UKIP's claims that there were going to be victims of some sort of intimidation.

There was only a handful of people in the hall, but many many more outside protesting.

All in all I think the protestors did a very good job and I hope that they continue to protest at all UKIP's meetings.
Which banner were you holding then Patrick ?, your sort are the problem not the solution, I went to the London meeting last week, if you need to know why UKIP complained about intimidation, threats, being gobbed at and a torrent of vile spew from these cretins take a look at some of the footage on youtube, you really don't have a clue either way, Idiots you support were probably to blame for putting a brick through the windows of an MEP whose children were asleep inside, I suppose the likes of you would also support a Kristallnacht against UKIP members, but of course maintain your version of democratic rights, the vile leftards have infiltrated the system and all British free people need to stand and fight, these bunch of morons are government, and union funded, just google UAF founding signatories to see who leads the UAF, Cameron & Baroness Lawrence for starters. Get real it really is them against us, we that's them and you against us the people.
[quote][p][bold]p a t r i c k[/bold] wrote: I live near to the Rolli hall in Hove and I went to have a look at the protestors. The protestors were a very nice lot, quite cheerful and happy. The UKIP representatives were miserable looking. UKIP made a song and dance before this meeting that they were going to be threatened or intimidated, but this was totally absurd. There was a big police turnout, a great deal of police time was wasted by UKIP's claims that there were going to be victims of some sort of intimidation. There was only a handful of people in the hall, but many many more outside protesting. All in all I think the protestors did a very good job and I hope that they continue to protest at all UKIP's meetings.[/p][/quote]Which banner were you holding then Patrick ?, your sort are the problem not the solution, I went to the London meeting last week, if you need to know why UKIP complained about intimidation, threats, being gobbed at and a torrent of vile spew from these cretins take a look at some of the footage on youtube, you really don't have a clue either way, Idiots you support were probably to blame for putting a brick through the windows of an MEP whose children were asleep inside, I suppose the likes of you would also support a Kristallnacht against UKIP members, but of course maintain your version of democratic rights, the vile leftards have infiltrated the system and all British free people need to stand and fight, these bunch of morons are government, and union funded, just google UAF founding signatories to see who leads the UAF, Cameron & Baroness Lawrence for starters. Get real it really is them against us, we that's them and you against us the people. JohnnyHornet
  • Score: 14

8:48am Wed 14 May 14

pachallis says...

When I worked on Sales & Marketing I was told that it was only the companies with poor products that have to spend their time slagging off other people’s products. The same seems to apply in politics and the greens (in the guise of @HJarrs) is a clear case in point. Now, after spending most of his time attacking the tories, liberals and labour, the greens are now focusing on denigrating UKIP?

Whilst @HJarrs, surprisingly, admits that they are not really racist, nor fascist, he then focuses on their big business and capitalism, their elitism and their policies.

And what is the Green parties manifesto? What are their policies in Europe and immigration? What are their view on capitalism and big business other than ‘fighting for the rights of its people’ or whatever that really means? Remember the Greens are environmentalists, or are they?

If you look at Keith Taylor's posting on what the Greens stand for:

1. Keeping the NHS Public
2. Paying workers a living wage
3. Defending public services
4. Creating sustainable jobs
5. Protecting pensions and ending fuel poverty
6. Nationalising rail and energy companies
7. Abolishing tuition fees and increasing HE spending
8. Increasing science funding

So no mention of anything to do with the environment; nothing about Europe; nothing about immigration – just broad policy statements about their left-wing aims.

And how will these policies be financed? No details, except comments from the UK Green Leader about cancelling Britain’s nuclear deterrent.

I do really think that the Green party should come clean as not really being an environmental party any more, but instead becoming the only left-wing party. Indeed, Keith's green manifesto does just sound like the labour party of the 1960s and the shift of the party from centre-green to left-pink.

Remember everyone - make sure you use your vote in the forthcoming elections – make sure you review their manifestos -and make sure you vote for ANY party except green.
When I worked on Sales & Marketing I was told that it was only the companies with poor products that have to spend their time slagging off other people’s products. The same seems to apply in politics and the greens (in the guise of @HJarrs) is a clear case in point. Now, after spending most of his time attacking the tories, liberals and labour, the greens are now focusing on denigrating UKIP? Whilst @HJarrs, surprisingly, admits that they are not really racist, nor fascist, he then focuses on their big business and capitalism, their elitism and their policies. And what is the Green parties manifesto? What are their policies in Europe and immigration? What are their view on capitalism and big business other than ‘fighting for the rights of its people’ or whatever that really means? Remember the Greens are environmentalists, or are they? If you look at Keith Taylor's posting on what the Greens stand for: 1. Keeping the NHS Public 2. Paying workers a living wage 3. Defending public services 4. Creating sustainable jobs 5. Protecting pensions and ending fuel poverty 6. Nationalising rail and energy companies 7. Abolishing tuition fees and increasing HE spending 8. Increasing science funding So no mention of anything to do with the environment; nothing about Europe; nothing about immigration – just broad policy statements about their left-wing aims. And how will these policies be financed? No details, except comments from the UK Green Leader about cancelling Britain’s nuclear deterrent. I do really think that the Green party should come clean as not really being an environmental party any more, but instead becoming the only left-wing party. Indeed, Keith's green manifesto does just sound like the labour party of the 1960s and the shift of the party from centre-green to left-pink. Remember everyone - make sure you use your vote in the forthcoming elections – make sure you review their manifestos -and make sure you vote for ANY party except green. pachallis
  • Score: 13

8:49am Wed 14 May 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

HJarrs wrote:
While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end. I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!). There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA. "Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.
Your support of class hatred is typical of the Green/Left bigots. Do you support putting class enemies in concentration camps?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end. I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!). There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA. "Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.[/p][/quote]Your support of class hatred is typical of the Green/Left bigots. Do you support putting class enemies in concentration camps? Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: 10

8:55am Wed 14 May 14

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
Interesting that this morning the leader of UKIP's youth wing has resigned stating the overt racism of campaigning as a reason.

I can imagine scenarios for leaving the EU, and wanting to leave is not racist, but UKIP is a vehicle for little Englanders to blame foreigners for our woes.

The irony of a high vote for UKIP on the 22nd May will be a poll boost for Alex Samond on the 23rd May. It could well be that voting UKIP will be a factor for the Scots voting for independence.

And if you read the last UKIP manifesto you will find taxi driver uniforms higher up the agenda than that piffling issue of climate change!
@HJarrs - you are really getting desperate!

So don't vote UKIP as it will help Scottish Independence? Who should we vote for instead?

Let me guess - a group of idiotic, incompetent, idealistic, irresponsible, innumerate, activist greens with no published policies and a left-wing communist manifesto who don't care about the environment anymore?

Remember everyone - make sure you use your vote in the forthcoming elections – make sure you review their manifestos - and make sure you vote for ANY party except green.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Interesting that this morning the leader of UKIP's youth wing has resigned stating the overt racism of campaigning as a reason. I can imagine scenarios for leaving the EU, and wanting to leave is not racist, but UKIP is a vehicle for little Englanders to blame foreigners for our woes. The irony of a high vote for UKIP on the 22nd May will be a poll boost for Alex Samond on the 23rd May. It could well be that voting UKIP will be a factor for the Scots voting for independence. And if you read the last UKIP manifesto you will find taxi driver uniforms higher up the agenda than that piffling issue of climate change![/p][/quote]@HJarrs - you are really getting desperate! So don't vote UKIP as it will help Scottish Independence? Who should we vote for instead? Let me guess - a group of idiotic, incompetent, idealistic, irresponsible, innumerate, activist greens with no published policies and a left-wing communist manifesto who don't care about the environment anymore? Remember everyone - make sure you use your vote in the forthcoming elections – make sure you review their manifestos - and make sure you vote for ANY party except green. pachallis
  • Score: 13

8:59am Wed 14 May 14

NickBrt says...

Surprisingly HJarrs is sounding somewhat moderate! Maybe she went to that Cannabis event at the Cowley club!
Surprisingly HJarrs is sounding somewhat moderate! Maybe she went to that Cannabis event at the Cowley club! NickBrt
  • Score: 5

9:00am Wed 14 May 14

BornInBrighton1968 says...

Gribbet wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
It's a bit like whenever an article about the Green Party gets written on here and you adopt your Green_Girl_1990 alter-ego posting name, then write a load of rubbish to agitate the anti-green commenters.
Strangle little man.

Obviously an angry and bitter UAF thug...
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]It's a bit like whenever an article about the Green Party gets written on here and you adopt your Green_Girl_1990 alter-ego posting name, then write a load of rubbish to agitate the anti-green commenters.[/p][/quote]Strangle little man. Obviously an angry and bitter UAF thug... BornInBrighton1968
  • Score: 7

9:05am Wed 14 May 14

Gribbet says...

JohnnyHornet wrote:
p a t r i c k wrote:
I live near to the Rolli hall in Hove and I went to have a look at the protestors. The protestors were a very nice lot, quite cheerful and happy. The UKIP representatives were miserable looking.

UKIP made a song and dance before this meeting that they were going to be threatened or intimidated, but this was totally absurd. There was a big police turnout, a great deal of police time was wasted by UKIP's claims that there were going to be victims of some sort of intimidation.

There was only a handful of people in the hall, but many many more outside protesting.

All in all I think the protestors did a very good job and I hope that they continue to protest at all UKIP's meetings.
Which banner were you holding then Patrick ?, your sort are the problem not the solution, I went to the London meeting last week, if you need to know why UKIP complained about intimidation, threats, being gobbed at and a torrent of vile spew from these cretins take a look at some of the footage on youtube, you really don't have a clue either way, Idiots you support were probably to blame for putting a brick through the windows of an MEP whose children were asleep inside, I suppose the likes of you would also support a Kristallnacht against UKIP members, but of course maintain your version of democratic rights, the vile leftards have infiltrated the system and all British free people need to stand and fight, these bunch of morons are government, and union funded, just google UAF founding signatories to see who leads the UAF, Cameron & Baroness Lawrence for starters. Get real it really is them against us, we that's them and you against us the people.
Sounds like Patrick was actually there, but you weren't. Also quite a disproportionately aggressive response on your part considering he's just telling it as he saw it. Nice unwarranted mention of Kristallnacht too, I think that's what's known as Godwin's Law.
[quote][p][bold]JohnnyHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]p a t r i c k[/bold] wrote: I live near to the Rolli hall in Hove and I went to have a look at the protestors. The protestors were a very nice lot, quite cheerful and happy. The UKIP representatives were miserable looking. UKIP made a song and dance before this meeting that they were going to be threatened or intimidated, but this was totally absurd. There was a big police turnout, a great deal of police time was wasted by UKIP's claims that there were going to be victims of some sort of intimidation. There was only a handful of people in the hall, but many many more outside protesting. All in all I think the protestors did a very good job and I hope that they continue to protest at all UKIP's meetings.[/p][/quote]Which banner were you holding then Patrick ?, your sort are the problem not the solution, I went to the London meeting last week, if you need to know why UKIP complained about intimidation, threats, being gobbed at and a torrent of vile spew from these cretins take a look at some of the footage on youtube, you really don't have a clue either way, Idiots you support were probably to blame for putting a brick through the windows of an MEP whose children were asleep inside, I suppose the likes of you would also support a Kristallnacht against UKIP members, but of course maintain your version of democratic rights, the vile leftards have infiltrated the system and all British free people need to stand and fight, these bunch of morons are government, and union funded, just google UAF founding signatories to see who leads the UAF, Cameron & Baroness Lawrence for starters. Get real it really is them against us, we that's them and you against us the people.[/p][/quote]Sounds like Patrick was actually there, but you weren't. Also quite a disproportionately aggressive response on your part considering he's just telling it as he saw it. Nice unwarranted mention of Kristallnacht too, I think that's what's known as Godwin's Law. Gribbet
  • Score: -2

9:06am Wed 14 May 14

fredaj says...

HJarrs wrote:
Interesting that this morning the leader of UKIP's youth wing has resigned stating the overt racism of campaigning as a reason.

I can imagine scenarios for leaving the EU, and wanting to leave is not racist, but UKIP is a vehicle for little Englanders to blame foreigners for our woes.

The irony of a high vote for UKIP on the 22nd May will be a poll boost for Alex Samond on the 23rd May. It could well be that voting UKIP will be a factor for the Scots voting for independence.

And if you read the last UKIP manifesto you will find taxi driver uniforms higher up the agenda than that piffling issue of climate change!
Taxi driver uniforms above climate change?

What's not to like?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Interesting that this morning the leader of UKIP's youth wing has resigned stating the overt racism of campaigning as a reason. I can imagine scenarios for leaving the EU, and wanting to leave is not racist, but UKIP is a vehicle for little Englanders to blame foreigners for our woes. The irony of a high vote for UKIP on the 22nd May will be a poll boost for Alex Samond on the 23rd May. It could well be that voting UKIP will be a factor for the Scots voting for independence. And if you read the last UKIP manifesto you will find taxi driver uniforms higher up the agenda than that piffling issue of climate change![/p][/quote]Taxi driver uniforms above climate change? What's not to like? fredaj
  • Score: 7

9:13am Wed 14 May 14

Gribbet says...

BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
It's a bit like whenever an article about the Green Party gets written on here and you adopt your Green_Girl_1990 alter-ego posting name, then write a load of rubbish to agitate the anti-green commenters.
Strangle little man.

Obviously an angry and bitter UAF thug...
I'm right though aren't I? I've found the article where you accidentally posted your intended Green Girl comment under your BornInBrighton1968 username, then made a lame excuse to explain what you'd done. Amateur.

Check out the first comment, LOL!

http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news
/10993834.The_Argus_
Council_
Tax_Debate_Live/

You appear to be a much stranger little man than I am.
[quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]It's a bit like whenever an article about the Green Party gets written on here and you adopt your Green_Girl_1990 alter-ego posting name, then write a load of rubbish to agitate the anti-green commenters.[/p][/quote]Strangle little man. Obviously an angry and bitter UAF thug...[/p][/quote]I'm right though aren't I? I've found the article where you accidentally posted your intended Green Girl comment under your BornInBrighton1968 username, then made a lame excuse to explain what you'd done. Amateur. Check out the first comment, LOL! http://www.theargus. co.uk/news /10993834.The_Argus_ Council_ Tax_Debate_Live/ You appear to be a much stranger little man than I am. Gribbet
  • Score: 7

9:22am Wed 14 May 14

spa301 says...

“This rabble is the type of people Brighton attracts and the fact that there is a Green council only attracts more oddballs," she said.

Sums it up in a nutshell for me.
“This rabble is the type of people Brighton attracts and the fact that there is a Green council only attracts more oddballs," she said. Sums it up in a nutshell for me. spa301
  • Score: 7

9:24am Wed 14 May 14

Gribbet says...

pachallis wrote:
When I worked on Sales & Marketing I was told that it was only the companies with poor products that have to spend their time slagging off other people’s products. The same seems to apply in politics and the greens (in the guise of @HJarrs) is a clear case in point. Now, after spending most of his time attacking the tories, liberals and labour, the greens are now focusing on denigrating UKIP?

Whilst @HJarrs, surprisingly, admits that they are not really racist, nor fascist, he then focuses on their big business and capitalism, their elitism and their policies.

And what is the Green parties manifesto? What are their policies in Europe and immigration? What are their view on capitalism and big business other than ‘fighting for the rights of its people’ or whatever that really means? Remember the Greens are environmentalists, or are they?

If you look at Keith Taylor's posting on what the Greens stand for:

1. Keeping the NHS Public
2. Paying workers a living wage
3. Defending public services
4. Creating sustainable jobs
5. Protecting pensions and ending fuel poverty
6. Nationalising rail and energy companies
7. Abolishing tuition fees and increasing HE spending
8. Increasing science funding

So no mention of anything to do with the environment; nothing about Europe; nothing about immigration – just broad policy statements about their left-wing aims.

And how will these policies be financed? No details, except comments from the UK Green Leader about cancelling Britain’s nuclear deterrent.

I do really think that the Green party should come clean as not really being an environmental party any more, but instead becoming the only left-wing party. Indeed, Keith's green manifesto does just sound like the labour party of the 1960s and the shift of the party from centre-green to left-pink.

Remember everyone - make sure you use your vote in the forthcoming elections – make sure you review their manifestos -and make sure you vote for ANY party except green.
All 8 of those points sound pretty good to me. Especially NHS, living wage and science funding.
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: When I worked on Sales & Marketing I was told that it was only the companies with poor products that have to spend their time slagging off other people’s products. The same seems to apply in politics and the greens (in the guise of @HJarrs) is a clear case in point. Now, after spending most of his time attacking the tories, liberals and labour, the greens are now focusing on denigrating UKIP? Whilst @HJarrs, surprisingly, admits that they are not really racist, nor fascist, he then focuses on their big business and capitalism, their elitism and their policies. And what is the Green parties manifesto? What are their policies in Europe and immigration? What are their view on capitalism and big business other than ‘fighting for the rights of its people’ or whatever that really means? Remember the Greens are environmentalists, or are they? If you look at Keith Taylor's posting on what the Greens stand for: 1. Keeping the NHS Public 2. Paying workers a living wage 3. Defending public services 4. Creating sustainable jobs 5. Protecting pensions and ending fuel poverty 6. Nationalising rail and energy companies 7. Abolishing tuition fees and increasing HE spending 8. Increasing science funding So no mention of anything to do with the environment; nothing about Europe; nothing about immigration – just broad policy statements about their left-wing aims. And how will these policies be financed? No details, except comments from the UK Green Leader about cancelling Britain’s nuclear deterrent. I do really think that the Green party should come clean as not really being an environmental party any more, but instead becoming the only left-wing party. Indeed, Keith's green manifesto does just sound like the labour party of the 1960s and the shift of the party from centre-green to left-pink. Remember everyone - make sure you use your vote in the forthcoming elections – make sure you review their manifestos -and make sure you vote for ANY party except green.[/p][/quote]All 8 of those points sound pretty good to me. Especially NHS, living wage and science funding. Gribbet
  • Score: 0

9:26am Wed 14 May 14

gheese77 says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end.

I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!).

There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA.

"Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.
Do you get a kick of posting utter ****?
Thats the kind of comment you would expect from the UAF! HJarrs was just making a point. If you don't agree with it then argue your case, don't resort to insults
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end. I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!). There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA. "Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.[/p][/quote]Do you get a kick of posting utter ****?[/p][/quote]Thats the kind of comment you would expect from the UAF! HJarrs was just making a point. If you don't agree with it then argue your case, don't resort to insults gheese77
  • Score: 2

9:31am Wed 14 May 14

Gribbet says...

spa301 wrote:
“This rabble is the type of people Brighton attracts and the fact that there is a Green council only attracts more oddballs," she said.

Sums it up in a nutshell for me.
Yeah me too, a very snooty 'holier than thou' comment from Mrs UKIP. Let them eat cake.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: “This rabble is the type of people Brighton attracts and the fact that there is a Green council only attracts more oddballs," she said. Sums it up in a nutshell for me.[/p][/quote]Yeah me too, a very snooty 'holier than thou' comment from Mrs UKIP. Let them eat cake. Gribbet
  • Score: -9

9:36am Wed 14 May 14

spa301 says...

gheese77 wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end.

I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!).

There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA.

"Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.
Do you get a kick of posting utter ****?
Thats the kind of comment you would expect from the UAF! HJarrs was just making a point. If you don't agree with it then argue your case, don't resort to insults
H.Jarrs has been writing utter ***** on this site since I can't remember when. I for one no longer bother reading any of it. Same old drivel, different day.

In fact so do you but you kept it short this time so I managed to get through it.
[quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end. I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!). There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA. "Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.[/p][/quote]Do you get a kick of posting utter ****?[/p][/quote]Thats the kind of comment you would expect from the UAF! HJarrs was just making a point. If you don't agree with it then argue your case, don't resort to insults[/p][/quote]H.Jarrs has been writing utter ***** on this site since I can't remember when. I for one no longer bother reading any of it. Same old drivel, different day. In fact so do you but you kept it short this time so I managed to get through it. spa301
  • Score: 5

10:11am Wed 14 May 14

Libertarian Patriot says...

I attended the UKIP meeting in Hove last night and was deeply concerned by what appeared to be an anti-semitic group standing against Jews. As the meeting place was in the Jewish Hall it appears that it attracted a group reminiscent of those in the tragic "Krystalnacht" episode that was part of the fascist take-over of Austria and Germany.

Some have observed that the protesters also included members of an organisation that is funded by the establishment parties (including David Cameron whose name apears in the list of UAF donors) who were holding up defamatory placards accusing those who attended the meetinf of being racist or even fascists.

It seems that most in the protest groups were not in favour of allowing a political meeting to proceed without harrassing and shouting in order to intimidate. One elderly person I know drove past the meeting intending to come in but felt it might present as a risk of bodily harm. The person concerned has recently placed a "Vote UKIP" poster in her window and fully intends to vote UKIP more than ever after seeing what our country could become unless parties like UKIP stand up for liberty and freedom of speech.

The Police did an exemplary job of keeping the peace and it is a good thing that arrests will now be made for racist or insulting remarks made against citizens exercising their right of assembly and freedom of speech. Far better for the extremist groups, even those who are anti-Jewish, to engage in debate at an appropriate time and place. Britain should have no place for those who support what happened to the Jews in the holocaust and certainly no place for those who oppose out fundamental liberties.

The meeting itself covered the usual sort of issues including the recent polls that show the majority of Europeans no longer have trust in the EU and that common sense should prevail on immigration policy in keeping with the common sense rules that all other civilised nations follow to make sure their borders are protected. One of the MEP candidates made a very important point about how the loudest protesters against UKIP have no thought for the nations who are drained of skilled people who come to our country to make our standard of living higher.

The meeting left no doubt that UKIP are here to stay, are growing stronger and will not be initimidated by far right anti-semetic groups or extremists on the left who are being funded by the estblishment who fear UKIP's success in the polls. Ironis in many ways that younger people are against the very thing they have supported over t our loong history--a libertarian rebellion!
I attended the UKIP meeting in Hove last night and was deeply concerned by what appeared to be an anti-semitic group standing against Jews. As the meeting place was in the Jewish Hall it appears that it attracted a group reminiscent of those in the tragic "Krystalnacht" episode that was part of the fascist take-over of Austria and Germany. Some have observed that the protesters also included members of an organisation that is funded by the establishment parties (including David Cameron whose name apears in the list of UAF donors) who were holding up defamatory placards accusing those who attended the meetinf of being racist or even fascists. It seems that most in the protest groups were not in favour of allowing a political meeting to proceed without harrassing and shouting in order to intimidate. One elderly person I know drove past the meeting intending to come in but felt it might present as a risk of bodily harm. The person concerned has recently placed a "Vote UKIP" poster in her window and fully intends to vote UKIP more than ever after seeing what our country could become unless parties like UKIP stand up for liberty and freedom of speech. The Police did an exemplary job of keeping the peace and it is a good thing that arrests will now be made for racist or insulting remarks made against citizens exercising their right of assembly and freedom of speech. Far better for the extremist groups, even those who are anti-Jewish, to engage in debate at an appropriate time and place. Britain should have no place for those who support what happened to the Jews in the holocaust and certainly no place for those who oppose out fundamental liberties. The meeting itself covered the usual sort of issues including the recent polls that show the majority of Europeans no longer have trust in the EU and that common sense should prevail on immigration policy in keeping with the common sense rules that all other civilised nations follow to make sure their borders are protected. One of the MEP candidates made a very important point about how the loudest protesters against UKIP have no thought for the nations who are drained of skilled people who come to our country to make our standard of living higher. The meeting left no doubt that UKIP are here to stay, are growing stronger and will not be initimidated by far right anti-semetic groups or extremists on the left who are being funded by the estblishment who fear UKIP's success in the polls. Ironis in many ways that younger people are against the very thing they have supported over t our loong history--a libertarian rebellion! Libertarian Patriot
  • Score: 9

10:51am Wed 14 May 14

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) says...

If the UAF thugs hate the UKIP bunch so much, then why not just form a political party and stand against them at elections?

Is it because UAF are full of members of the Socialist Workers Party and Workers Revolutionary Party, and therefore have no time for political democracy?

Either way, if UAF hate democracy and free speech so much, why don't they all just b*gger-off to North Korea; surely they'd be happier there?
If the UAF thugs hate the UKIP bunch so much, then why not just form a political party and stand against them at elections? Is it because UAF are full of members of the Socialist Workers Party and Workers Revolutionary Party, and therefore have no time for political democracy? Either way, if UAF hate democracy and free speech so much, why don't they all just b*gger-off to North Korea; surely they'd be happier there? Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)
  • Score: 14

10:58am Wed 14 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

p a t r i c k wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end.

I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!).

There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA.

"Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.
What's a Rumanian?
The name of the country Romania can also be spelt Rumania. Indeed that was how it was spelt for many years in the UK.
Ah, you learn something new everyday. My bad!
[quote][p][bold]p a t r i c k[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: While UKIP does have many racist members, who are uncovered on a daily basis, and has recently provocatively and misleadingly slurred Bulgarian and Rumanians in adverts, being anti-EU does not constitute racism and I would not accuse UKIP of being fascists. Rather, this is a means to an end. I think those protesting against UKIP should be far more concerned by UKIPs massive funding by the wealthy conservative establishment and it's obsession with free market and privitisation policies that will leave ordinary people of thiscountry in even greater insecurity and at the whim of the wealthy few. How coy you UKIP people are at discussing policy (but then, you don't know what the policy is till Nigel tells you!). There is much wrong with the EU and most of it is exactly the "free market" ideology that UKIP espouse. We should be in Europe fighting for the rights of its people, not handing more power to the wealthy elite that have a strangle hold on this country and that would make us the 53rd state of USA. "Blame the Etonians, not the Estonians". That is pretty good. I might get a T-shirt made up with that.[/p][/quote]What's a Rumanian?[/p][/quote]The name of the country Romania can also be spelt Rumania. Indeed that was how it was spelt for many years in the UK.[/p][/quote]Ah, you learn something new everyday. My bad! thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 3

11:36am Wed 14 May 14

Andy R says...

Gribbet wrote:
spa301 wrote:
“This rabble is the type of people Brighton attracts and the fact that there is a Green council only attracts more oddballs," she said.

Sums it up in a nutshell for me.
Yeah me too, a very snooty 'holier than thou' comment from Mrs UKIP. Let them eat cake.
The obvious answer to her being "Fine. Nothing for you here then. Jog on".

I think the jeers of "fascist" were mainly motivated by UKIP's absurd demand for everyone who said "fascist" to be arrested. How did that work out in the end?

I agree about UKIP not being fascist. A truly fascist party possesses a level of sophistication which is plainly beyond UKIP.
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: “This rabble is the type of people Brighton attracts and the fact that there is a Green council only attracts more oddballs," she said. Sums it up in a nutshell for me.[/p][/quote]Yeah me too, a very snooty 'holier than thou' comment from Mrs UKIP. Let them eat cake.[/p][/quote]The obvious answer to her being "Fine. Nothing for you here then. Jog on". I think the jeers of "fascist" were mainly motivated by UKIP's absurd demand for everyone who said "fascist" to be arrested. How did that work out in the end? I agree about UKIP not being fascist. A truly fascist party possesses a level of sophistication which is plainly beyond UKIP. Andy R
  • Score: -10

12:55pm Wed 14 May 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

Andy R wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
spa301 wrote: “This rabble is the type of people Brighton attracts and the fact that there is a Green council only attracts more oddballs," she said. Sums it up in a nutshell for me.
Yeah me too, a very snooty 'holier than thou' comment from Mrs UKIP. Let them eat cake.
The obvious answer to her being "Fine. Nothing for you here then. Jog on". I think the jeers of "fascist" were mainly motivated by UKIP's absurd demand for everyone who said "fascist" to be arrested. How did that work out in the end? I agree about UKIP not being fascist. A truly fascist party possesses a level of sophistication which is plainly beyond UKIP.
I have asked before but I don't think you answered. Are you a Stalinist or a Trotskyite? Both mass murderers of course but for some reason they loathe each other as well as the rest of the human race.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: “This rabble is the type of people Brighton attracts and the fact that there is a Green council only attracts more oddballs," she said. Sums it up in a nutshell for me.[/p][/quote]Yeah me too, a very snooty 'holier than thou' comment from Mrs UKIP. Let them eat cake.[/p][/quote]The obvious answer to her being "Fine. Nothing for you here then. Jog on". I think the jeers of "fascist" were mainly motivated by UKIP's absurd demand for everyone who said "fascist" to be arrested. How did that work out in the end? I agree about UKIP not being fascist. A truly fascist party possesses a level of sophistication which is plainly beyond UKIP.[/p][/quote]I have asked before but I don't think you answered. Are you a Stalinist or a Trotskyite? Both mass murderers of course but for some reason they loathe each other as well as the rest of the human race. Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: 8

1:01pm Wed 14 May 14

poortaxpayer says...

I have a great idea to defeat UKIP and I hope Labour, Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats take this idea up as it is really rather simple.

Have policies that we can believe in and vote for.

The UKIPs support will collapse and they will be history.

Calling UKIP names and holding protests just makes them stronger and stronger.
I have a great idea to defeat UKIP and I hope Labour, Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats take this idea up as it is really rather simple. Have policies that we can believe in and vote for. The UKIPs support will collapse and they will be history. Calling UKIP names and holding protests just makes them stronger and stronger. poortaxpayer
  • Score: 7

1:32pm Wed 14 May 14

hoveguyactually says...

clubrob6 wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
The UAF is government funded,it travels the country causing violence and abuse where ever it goes.Whenever there is say a EDL or BNP event the UAF turn up lots of them with there faces covered just to cause trouble.I have looked on the UAF website they have a string of supporters including Cameron and many MPs.But to be fair to Cameron when he pledged his support the UAF had not been took over by extremists.It must also be noted that one of Lee Rigby's murderers was a main speaker at UAF demonstrations I did not believe this at first but its plain to see on youtube at a 2009 UAF event.I think the government are ignoring the actions of this now extremist violent group is because they now target UKIP events.The UAF is trying to remove freedom of speech by force and is by far the most fascist violent group in the country and should now be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.The UKIP is not a racist group the actual racists are the UAF,its because of this group who I nearly joined as I was against the EDL but quickly learned that the UAF are actually more Fascist than the groups they object to that I have VOTED UKIP AND PROUD TO HAVE DONE IT,my postal vote has already been cast.
I agree with everything you say, except "had not been took over" should be "had not been taken over".
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]The UAF is government funded,it travels the country causing violence and abuse where ever it goes.Whenever there is say a EDL or BNP event the UAF turn up lots of them with there faces covered just to cause trouble.I have looked on the UAF website they have a string of supporters including Cameron and many MPs.But to be fair to Cameron when he pledged his support the UAF had not been took over by extremists.It must also be noted that one of Lee Rigby's murderers was a main speaker at UAF demonstrations I did not believe this at first but its plain to see on youtube at a 2009 UAF event.I think the government are ignoring the actions of this now extremist violent group is because they now target UKIP events.The UAF is trying to remove freedom of speech by force and is by far the most fascist violent group in the country and should now be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.The UKIP is not a racist group the actual racists are the UAF,its because of this group who I nearly joined as I was against the EDL but quickly learned that the UAF are actually more Fascist than the groups they object to that I have VOTED UKIP AND PROUD TO HAVE DONE IT,my postal vote has already been cast.[/p][/quote]I agree with everything you say, except "had not been took over" should be "had not been taken over". hoveguyactually
  • Score: 2

2:17pm Wed 14 May 14

Andy R says...

clubrob6 wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
EASY the UAF is government funded that's why they attend UKIP events to shout fascist comments and cause trouble.They are trying to remove freedom of speech by force and should be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.
UAF are not, of course, government funded. Clubrob6 makes this absurd claim every now and then - when he thinks we've all forgotten about the last time he made it and couldn't back it up when challenged......
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]EASY the UAF is government funded that's why they attend UKIP events to shout fascist comments and cause trouble.They are trying to remove freedom of speech by force and should be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.[/p][/quote]UAF are not, of course, government funded. Clubrob6 makes this absurd claim every now and then - when he thinks we've all forgotten about the last time he made it and couldn't back it up when challenged...... Andy R
  • Score: -5

3:01pm Wed 14 May 14

a person says...

Clubrob could well be right…
It doesn’t take much to google .

From UAF WATCH
Who funds Unite Against Fascism

“””Unite Against Fascism has received at least £600,000 in funding, but unlike other anti-racist organisations (e.g. Searchlight, Hope Not Hate and Give Racism The Red Card), there is no trace of Unite Against Fascism on Companies House or the Charities Commission.””

To help alleviate our concerns we requested that UAF explain their lack of transparency, but our request fell on deaf ears. We now urge the public to demand financial transparency from UAF as an assurance that there is nothing sinister lurking behind the noble guise of antifascism.
Below are a list of donations we were able to uncover, it is probable that the organisation attracts revenues far greater than the figures we report.

£438,270 from the government between 2004 and 2011
£56,714 from the National Union of Teachers in 2012 alone
£8,000 (at least) from Unison in 2010
£2,000 (at least) from Unison in 2011
£1,000 (at least) from UCU in 2011
£1,000 recurring each year from 19 affiliated unions

http://www.uafwatch.
co.uk/
Clubrob could well be right… It doesn’t take much to google . From UAF WATCH Who funds Unite Against Fascism “””Unite Against Fascism has received at least £600,000 in funding, but unlike other anti-racist organisations (e.g. Searchlight, Hope Not Hate and Give Racism The Red Card), there is no trace of Unite Against Fascism on Companies House or the Charities Commission.”” To help alleviate our concerns we requested that UAF explain their lack of transparency, but our request fell on deaf ears. We now urge the public to demand financial transparency from UAF as an assurance that there is nothing sinister lurking behind the noble guise of antifascism. Below are a list of donations we were able to uncover, it is probable that the organisation attracts revenues far greater than the figures we report. £438,270 from the government between 2004 and 2011 £56,714 from the National Union of Teachers in 2012 alone £8,000 (at least) from Unison in 2010 £2,000 (at least) from Unison in 2011 £1,000 (at least) from UCU in 2011 £1,000 recurring each year from 19 affiliated unions http://www.uafwatch. co.uk/ a person
  • Score: 7

3:33pm Wed 14 May 14

a person says...

poortaxpayer wrote:
I have a great idea to defeat UKIP and I hope Labour, Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats take this idea up as it is really rather simple.

Have policies that we can believe in and vote for.

The UKIPs support will collapse and they will be history.

Calling UKIP names and holding protests just makes them stronger and stronger.
That has always been the problem .
Labour, Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats do
have policies that they believe in.

The problems they all have is delivering them.
Unfortunately many policies do not equal reality.

Or do not follow the rules from the eu.
[quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: I have a great idea to defeat UKIP and I hope Labour, Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats take this idea up as it is really rather simple. Have policies that we can believe in and vote for. The UKIPs support will collapse and they will be history. Calling UKIP names and holding protests just makes them stronger and stronger.[/p][/quote]That has always been the problem . Labour, Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats do have policies that they believe in. The problems they all have is delivering them. Unfortunately many policies do not equal reality. Or do not follow the rules from the eu. a person
  • Score: 6

4:22pm Wed 14 May 14

Andy R says...

a person wrote:
Clubrob could well be right…
It doesn’t take much to google .

From UAF WATCH
Who funds Unite Against Fascism

“””Unite Against Fascism has received at least £600,000 in funding, but unlike other anti-racist organisations (e.g. Searchlight, Hope Not Hate and Give Racism The Red Card), there is no trace of Unite Against Fascism on Companies House or the Charities Commission.””

To help alleviate our concerns we requested that UAF explain their lack of transparency, but our request fell on deaf ears. We now urge the public to demand financial transparency from UAF as an assurance that there is nothing sinister lurking behind the noble guise of antifascism.
Below are a list of donations we were able to uncover, it is probable that the organisation attracts revenues far greater than the figures we report.

£438,270 from the government between 2004 and 2011
£56,714 from the National Union of Teachers in 2012 alone
£8,000 (at least) from Unison in 2010
£2,000 (at least) from Unison in 2011
£1,000 (at least) from UCU in 2011
£1,000 recurring each year from 19 affiliated unions

http://www.uafwatch.

co.uk/
"uafwatch"....FFS! You'll never be much of a chef.....you're hopeless with sources!

Most of the organisations listed there are not "the government" btw.
[quote][p][bold]a person[/bold] wrote: Clubrob could well be right… It doesn’t take much to google . From UAF WATCH Who funds Unite Against Fascism “””Unite Against Fascism has received at least £600,000 in funding, but unlike other anti-racist organisations (e.g. Searchlight, Hope Not Hate and Give Racism The Red Card), there is no trace of Unite Against Fascism on Companies House or the Charities Commission.”” To help alleviate our concerns we requested that UAF explain their lack of transparency, but our request fell on deaf ears. We now urge the public to demand financial transparency from UAF as an assurance that there is nothing sinister lurking behind the noble guise of antifascism. Below are a list of donations we were able to uncover, it is probable that the organisation attracts revenues far greater than the figures we report. £438,270 from the government between 2004 and 2011 £56,714 from the National Union of Teachers in 2012 alone £8,000 (at least) from Unison in 2010 £2,000 (at least) from Unison in 2011 £1,000 (at least) from UCU in 2011 £1,000 recurring each year from 19 affiliated unions http://www.uafwatch. co.uk/[/p][/quote]"uafwatch"....FFS! You'll never be much of a chef.....you're hopeless with sources! Most of the organisations listed there are not "the government" btw. Andy R
  • Score: -1

4:24pm Wed 14 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Andy R wrote:
a person wrote:
Clubrob could well be right…
It doesn’t take much to google .

From UAF WATCH
Who funds Unite Against Fascism

“””Unite Against Fascism has received at least £600,000 in funding, but unlike other anti-racist organisations (e.g. Searchlight, Hope Not Hate and Give Racism The Red Card), there is no trace of Unite Against Fascism on Companies House or the Charities Commission.””

To help alleviate our concerns we requested that UAF explain their lack of transparency, but our request fell on deaf ears. We now urge the public to demand financial transparency from UAF as an assurance that there is nothing sinister lurking behind the noble guise of antifascism.
Below are a list of donations we were able to uncover, it is probable that the organisation attracts revenues far greater than the figures we report.

£438,270 from the government between 2004 and 2011
£56,714 from the National Union of Teachers in 2012 alone
£8,000 (at least) from Unison in 2010
£2,000 (at least) from Unison in 2011
£1,000 (at least) from UCU in 2011
£1,000 recurring each year from 19 affiliated unions

http://www.uafwatch.


co.uk/
"uafwatch"....F
FS! You'll never be much of a chef.....you're hopeless with sources!

Most of the organisations listed there are not "the government" btw.
But one is ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a person[/bold] wrote: Clubrob could well be right… It doesn’t take much to google . From UAF WATCH Who funds Unite Against Fascism “””Unite Against Fascism has received at least £600,000 in funding, but unlike other anti-racist organisations (e.g. Searchlight, Hope Not Hate and Give Racism The Red Card), there is no trace of Unite Against Fascism on Companies House or the Charities Commission.”” To help alleviate our concerns we requested that UAF explain their lack of transparency, but our request fell on deaf ears. We now urge the public to demand financial transparency from UAF as an assurance that there is nothing sinister lurking behind the noble guise of antifascism. Below are a list of donations we were able to uncover, it is probable that the organisation attracts revenues far greater than the figures we report. £438,270 from the government between 2004 and 2011 £56,714 from the National Union of Teachers in 2012 alone £8,000 (at least) from Unison in 2010 £2,000 (at least) from Unison in 2011 £1,000 (at least) from UCU in 2011 £1,000 recurring each year from 19 affiliated unions http://www.uafwatch. co.uk/[/p][/quote]"uafwatch"....F FS! You'll never be much of a chef.....you're hopeless with sources! Most of the organisations listed there are not "the government" btw.[/p][/quote]But one is ;-) ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 3

4:30pm Wed 14 May 14

Andy R says...

a person wrote:
Clubrob could well be right…
It doesn’t take much to google .

From UAF WATCH
Who funds Unite Against Fascism

“””Unite Against Fascism has received at least £600,000 in funding, but unlike other anti-racist organisations (e.g. Searchlight, Hope Not Hate and Give Racism The Red Card), there is no trace of Unite Against Fascism on Companies House or the Charities Commission.””

To help alleviate our concerns we requested that UAF explain their lack of transparency, but our request fell on deaf ears. We now urge the public to demand financial transparency from UAF as an assurance that there is nothing sinister lurking behind the noble guise of antifascism.
Below are a list of donations we were able to uncover, it is probable that the organisation attracts revenues far greater than the figures we report.

£438,270 from the government between 2004 and 2011
£56,714 from the National Union of Teachers in 2012 alone
£8,000 (at least) from Unison in 2010
£2,000 (at least) from Unison in 2011
£1,000 (at least) from UCU in 2011
£1,000 recurring each year from 19 affiliated unions

http://www.uafwatch.

co.uk/
Hilarious - the "proof" of "government funding" that "uafwatch" claims to have "uncovered" turns out to be a screenshot of....something, which "proves" nothing of the kind! It's actually quite pathetic, though I expect it's more than enough to con the gullible.
[quote][p][bold]a person[/bold] wrote: Clubrob could well be right… It doesn’t take much to google . From UAF WATCH Who funds Unite Against Fascism “””Unite Against Fascism has received at least £600,000 in funding, but unlike other anti-racist organisations (e.g. Searchlight, Hope Not Hate and Give Racism The Red Card), there is no trace of Unite Against Fascism on Companies House or the Charities Commission.”” To help alleviate our concerns we requested that UAF explain their lack of transparency, but our request fell on deaf ears. We now urge the public to demand financial transparency from UAF as an assurance that there is nothing sinister lurking behind the noble guise of antifascism. Below are a list of donations we were able to uncover, it is probable that the organisation attracts revenues far greater than the figures we report. £438,270 from the government between 2004 and 2011 £56,714 from the National Union of Teachers in 2012 alone £8,000 (at least) from Unison in 2010 £2,000 (at least) from Unison in 2011 £1,000 (at least) from UCU in 2011 £1,000 recurring each year from 19 affiliated unions http://www.uafwatch. co.uk/[/p][/quote]Hilarious - the "proof" of "government funding" that "uafwatch" claims to have "uncovered" turns out to be a screenshot of....something, which "proves" nothing of the kind! It's actually quite pathetic, though I expect it's more than enough to con the gullible. Andy R
  • Score: -7

4:31pm Wed 14 May 14

Andy R says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
a person wrote:
Clubrob could well be right…
It doesn’t take much to google .

From UAF WATCH
Who funds Unite Against Fascism

“””Unite Against Fascism has received at least £600,000 in funding, but unlike other anti-racist organisations (e.g. Searchlight, Hope Not Hate and Give Racism The Red Card), there is no trace of Unite Against Fascism on Companies House or the Charities Commission.””

To help alleviate our concerns we requested that UAF explain their lack of transparency, but our request fell on deaf ears. We now urge the public to demand financial transparency from UAF as an assurance that there is nothing sinister lurking behind the noble guise of antifascism.
Below are a list of donations we were able to uncover, it is probable that the organisation attracts revenues far greater than the figures we report.

£438,270 from the government between 2004 and 2011
£56,714 from the National Union of Teachers in 2012 alone
£8,000 (at least) from Unison in 2010
£2,000 (at least) from Unison in 2011
£1,000 (at least) from UCU in 2011
£1,000 recurring each year from 19 affiliated unions

http://www.uafwatch.



co.uk/
"uafwatch"....F

FS! You'll never be much of a chef.....you're hopeless with sources!

Most of the organisations listed there are not "the government" btw.
But one is ;-)
What? The one called "the government"? LMFAO.....
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a person[/bold] wrote: Clubrob could well be right… It doesn’t take much to google . From UAF WATCH Who funds Unite Against Fascism “””Unite Against Fascism has received at least £600,000 in funding, but unlike other anti-racist organisations (e.g. Searchlight, Hope Not Hate and Give Racism The Red Card), there is no trace of Unite Against Fascism on Companies House or the Charities Commission.”” To help alleviate our concerns we requested that UAF explain their lack of transparency, but our request fell on deaf ears. We now urge the public to demand financial transparency from UAF as an assurance that there is nothing sinister lurking behind the noble guise of antifascism. Below are a list of donations we were able to uncover, it is probable that the organisation attracts revenues far greater than the figures we report. £438,270 from the government between 2004 and 2011 £56,714 from the National Union of Teachers in 2012 alone £8,000 (at least) from Unison in 2010 £2,000 (at least) from Unison in 2011 £1,000 (at least) from UCU in 2011 £1,000 recurring each year from 19 affiliated unions http://www.uafwatch. co.uk/[/p][/quote]"uafwatch"....F FS! You'll never be much of a chef.....you're hopeless with sources! Most of the organisations listed there are not "the government" btw.[/p][/quote]But one is ;-)[/p][/quote]What? The one called "the government"? LMFAO..... Andy R
  • Score: -3

4:59pm Wed 14 May 14

Sue De Nimes says...

From what I can see the only fascists involved were the protestors.
From what I can see the only fascists involved were the protestors. Sue De Nimes
  • Score: 10

5:19pm Wed 14 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"UAF are not, of course, government funded. "

Can you prove that, Andy R?
"UAF are not, of course, government funded. " Can you prove that, Andy R? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 7

6:29pm Wed 14 May 14

Fight_Back says...

Andy R wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
EASY the UAF is government funded that's why they attend UKIP events to shout fascist comments and cause trouble.They are trying to remove freedom of speech by force and should be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.
UAF are not, of course, government funded. Clubrob6 makes this absurd claim every now and then - when he thinks we've all forgotten about the last time he made it and couldn't back it up when challenged......
Indeed the UAF are not funded by the government. What you suspiciously fail to mention us that they ARE funded by the trade unions. So we have trade unions funding political violent thugs .... I wonder if your members realise this ?
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]EASY the UAF is government funded that's why they attend UKIP events to shout fascist comments and cause trouble.They are trying to remove freedom of speech by force and should be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.[/p][/quote]UAF are not, of course, government funded. Clubrob6 makes this absurd claim every now and then - when he thinks we've all forgotten about the last time he made it and couldn't back it up when challenged......[/p][/quote]Indeed the UAF are not funded by the government. What you suspiciously fail to mention us that they ARE funded by the trade unions. So we have trade unions funding political violent thugs .... I wonder if your members realise this ? Fight_Back
  • Score: 6

6:31pm Wed 14 May 14

Mr chock says...

NathanAdler wrote:
I walked past the rabble of protesters earlier and I still have the smell of stale urine in my nostrils. Whatever they are trying to say, please use some soap!!

Absolute filth, the lot of them.
i suspect you might like to walk past the area again the area still smells its teh Sea air " you do know the sewage outfall pipe is not far away and the power plant smoke ........ Vote Ukip if you like but please dont vote green ..
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: I walked past the rabble of protesters earlier and I still have the smell of stale urine in my nostrils. Whatever they are trying to say, please use some soap!! Absolute filth, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]i suspect you might like to walk past the area again the area still smells its teh Sea air " you do know the sewage outfall pipe is not far away and the power plant smoke ........ Vote Ukip if you like but please dont vote green .. Mr chock
  • Score: 5

9:27pm Wed 14 May 14

Levent says...

The great unwashed REALLY need a new slogan. Anti-Facist is so last year!
The great unwashed REALLY need a new slogan. Anti-Facist is so last year! Levent
  • Score: 4

8:38am Thu 15 May 14

Andy R says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Andy R wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
EASY the UAF is government funded that's why they attend UKIP events to shout fascist comments and cause trouble.They are trying to remove freedom of speech by force and should be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.
UAF are not, of course, government funded. Clubrob6 makes this absurd claim every now and then - when he thinks we've all forgotten about the last time he made it and couldn't back it up when challenged......
Indeed the UAF are not funded by the government. What you suspiciously fail to mention us that they ARE funded by the trade unions. So we have trade unions funding political violent thugs .... I wonder if your members realise this ?
Er.....yes...trade unions donate money to UAF. No big secret. I take it the "UAF is government-funded" guff has now officially run out of steam?
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]EASY the UAF is government funded that's why they attend UKIP events to shout fascist comments and cause trouble.They are trying to remove freedom of speech by force and should be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.[/p][/quote]UAF are not, of course, government funded. Clubrob6 makes this absurd claim every now and then - when he thinks we've all forgotten about the last time he made it and couldn't back it up when challenged......[/p][/quote]Indeed the UAF are not funded by the government. What you suspiciously fail to mention us that they ARE funded by the trade unions. So we have trade unions funding political violent thugs .... I wonder if your members realise this ?[/p][/quote]Er.....yes...trade unions donate money to UAF. No big secret. I take it the "UAF is government-funded" guff has now officially run out of steam? Andy R
  • Score: -7

1:00pm Thu 15 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Andy R wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Andy R wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
EASY the UAF is government funded that's why they attend UKIP events to shout fascist comments and cause trouble.They are trying to remove freedom of speech by force and should be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.
UAF are not, of course, government funded. Clubrob6 makes this absurd claim every now and then - when he thinks we've all forgotten about the last time he made it and couldn't back it up when challenged......
Indeed the UAF are not funded by the government. What you suspiciously fail to mention us that they ARE funded by the trade unions. So we have trade unions funding political violent thugs .... I wonder if your members realise this ?
Er.....yes...trade unions donate money to UAF. No big secret. I take it the "UAF is government-funded" guff has now officially run out of steam?
We're still waiting for YOU to prove YOUR comment about the UAF not being government-funded.

Or shall we just accept you have no evidence that it isn't?
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]EASY the UAF is government funded that's why they attend UKIP events to shout fascist comments and cause trouble.They are trying to remove freedom of speech by force and should be re-named UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.[/p][/quote]UAF are not, of course, government funded. Clubrob6 makes this absurd claim every now and then - when he thinks we've all forgotten about the last time he made it and couldn't back it up when challenged......[/p][/quote]Indeed the UAF are not funded by the government. What you suspiciously fail to mention us that they ARE funded by the trade unions. So we have trade unions funding political violent thugs .... I wonder if your members realise this ?[/p][/quote]Er.....yes...trade unions donate money to UAF. No big secret. I take it the "UAF is government-funded" guff has now officially run out of steam?[/p][/quote]We're still waiting for YOU to prove YOUR comment about the UAF not being government-funded. Or shall we just accept you have no evidence that it isn't? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 4

5:18pm Thu 15 May 14

ARMANA says...

clubrob6 wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
Edward H wrote:
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:
I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF.

It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

Something doesn't seem right...
The establishment that's who.

Britain has become a corrupt country and our democracy has been undermined. We are now living in dangerous and disturbing times.
You ain't seen nothing yet, you wait till the world markets put up interest rates, The U.K owe more than Cyprus, Greece , & Spain & Italy. put together, Hells coming to dinner, pay off any credit you have, AS SOON AS YOU CAN, !!!
You are right when interest rates go up the UK will NOT be able to pay its debts FACT.Osbourne has not realise this as he has no accountancy experience.
Interest rates at 5% will see your interest payments rise three fold,
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Edward H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BornInBrighton1968[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who is really behind the 'usefully idiots' that are UAF. It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place. Something doesn't seem right...[/p][/quote]The establishment that's who. Britain has become a corrupt country and our democracy has been undermined. We are now living in dangerous and disturbing times.[/p][/quote]You ain't seen nothing yet, you wait till the world markets put up interest rates, The U.K owe more than Cyprus, Greece , & Spain & Italy. put together, Hells coming to dinner, pay off any credit you have, AS SOON AS YOU CAN, !!![/p][/quote]You are right when interest rates go up the UK will NOT be able to pay its debts FACT.Osbourne has not realise this as he has no accountancy experience.[/p][/quote]Interest rates at 5% will see your interest payments rise three fold, ARMANA
  • Score: 1

9:00pm Thu 15 May 14

JohnnyHornet says...

Gribbet wrote:
JohnnyHornet wrote:
p a t r i c k wrote:
I live near to the Rolli hall in Hove and I went to have a look at the protestors. The protestors were a very nice lot, quite cheerful and happy. The UKIP representatives were miserable looking.

UKIP made a song and dance before this meeting that they were going to be threatened or intimidated, but this was totally absurd. There was a big police turnout, a great deal of police time was wasted by UKIP's claims that there were going to be victims of some sort of intimidation.

There was only a handful of people in the hall, but many many more outside protesting.

All in all I think the protestors did a very good job and I hope that they continue to protest at all UKIP's meetings.
Which banner were you holding then Patrick ?, your sort are the problem not the solution, I went to the London meeting last week, if you need to know why UKIP complained about intimidation, threats, being gobbed at and a torrent of vile spew from these cretins take a look at some of the footage on youtube, you really don't have a clue either way, Idiots you support were probably to blame for putting a brick through the windows of an MEP whose children were asleep inside, I suppose the likes of you would also support a Kristallnacht against UKIP members, but of course maintain your version of democratic rights, the vile leftards have infiltrated the system and all British free people need to stand and fight, these bunch of morons are government, and union funded, just google UAF founding signatories to see who leads the UAF, Cameron & Baroness Lawrence for starters. Get real it really is them against us, we that's them and you against us the people.
Sounds like Patrick was actually there, but you weren't. Also quite a disproportionately aggressive response on your part considering he's just telling it as he saw it. Nice unwarranted mention of Kristallnacht too, I think that's what's known as Godwin's Law.
Read my post I didn't say I was there I was at the London meeting.
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnnyHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]p a t r i c k[/bold] wrote: I live near to the Rolli hall in Hove and I went to have a look at the protestors. The protestors were a very nice lot, quite cheerful and happy. The UKIP representatives were miserable looking. UKIP made a song and dance before this meeting that they were going to be threatened or intimidated, but this was totally absurd. There was a big police turnout, a great deal of police time was wasted by UKIP's claims that there were going to be victims of some sort of intimidation. There was only a handful of people in the hall, but many many more outside protesting. All in all I think the protestors did a very good job and I hope that they continue to protest at all UKIP's meetings.[/p][/quote]Which banner were you holding then Patrick ?, your sort are the problem not the solution, I went to the London meeting last week, if you need to know why UKIP complained about intimidation, threats, being gobbed at and a torrent of vile spew from these cretins take a look at some of the footage on youtube, you really don't have a clue either way, Idiots you support were probably to blame for putting a brick through the windows of an MEP whose children were asleep inside, I suppose the likes of you would also support a Kristallnacht against UKIP members, but of course maintain your version of democratic rights, the vile leftards have infiltrated the system and all British free people need to stand and fight, these bunch of morons are government, and union funded, just google UAF founding signatories to see who leads the UAF, Cameron & Baroness Lawrence for starters. Get real it really is them against us, we that's them and you against us the people.[/p][/quote]Sounds like Patrick was actually there, but you weren't. Also quite a disproportionately aggressive response on your part considering he's just telling it as he saw it. Nice unwarranted mention of Kristallnacht too, I think that's what's known as Godwin's Law.[/p][/quote]Read my post I didn't say I was there I was at the London meeting. JohnnyHornet
  • Score: 2

9:44am Fri 16 May 14

sharpley says...

You really couldn't make this up...A UKIP candidate in Hastings has just been outed as appearing naked in an "art" project photo book alongside another middle aged naked guy snorting white powder off a young woman's backside. The UKIP candidate has a Nazi eagle tattoo on his arm and pictures of two WW2 era german bombers over a Star of David...

The link follows, but I should warn you it opens with a not safe for work image!

http://politicalscra
pbook.net/2014/05/na
zi-tattoo-ukip-candi
date-in-mystery-powd
er-naked-photoshoot/
You really couldn't make this up...A UKIP candidate in Hastings has just been outed as appearing naked in an "art" project photo book alongside another middle aged naked guy snorting white powder off a young woman's backside. The UKIP candidate has a Nazi eagle tattoo on his arm and pictures of two WW2 era german bombers over a Star of David... The link follows, but I should warn you it opens with a not safe for work image! http://politicalscra pbook.net/2014/05/na zi-tattoo-ukip-candi date-in-mystery-powd er-naked-photoshoot/ sharpley
  • Score: -2

12:44pm Fri 16 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

sharpley wrote:
You really couldn't make this up...A UKIP candidate in Hastings has just been outed as appearing naked in an "art" project photo book alongside another middle aged naked guy snorting white powder off a young woman's backside. The UKIP candidate has a Nazi eagle tattoo on his arm and pictures of two WW2 era german bombers over a Star of David...

The link follows, but I should warn you it opens with a not safe for work image!

http://politicalscra

pbook.net/2014/05/na

zi-tattoo-ukip-candi

date-in-mystery-powd

er-naked-photoshoot/
And the tattoos are genuine?
[quote][p][bold]sharpley[/bold] wrote: You really couldn't make this up...A UKIP candidate in Hastings has just been outed as appearing naked in an "art" project photo book alongside another middle aged naked guy snorting white powder off a young woman's backside. The UKIP candidate has a Nazi eagle tattoo on his arm and pictures of two WW2 era german bombers over a Star of David... The link follows, but I should warn you it opens with a not safe for work image! http://politicalscra pbook.net/2014/05/na zi-tattoo-ukip-candi date-in-mystery-powd er-naked-photoshoot/[/p][/quote]And the tattoos are genuine? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

1:52pm Fri 16 May 14

sharpley says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sharpley wrote:
You really couldn't make this up...A UKIP candidate in Hastings has just been outed as appearing naked in an "art" project photo book alongside another middle aged naked guy snorting white powder off a young woman's backside. The UKIP candidate has a Nazi eagle tattoo on his arm and pictures of two WW2 era german bombers over a Star of David...

The link follows, but I should warn you it opens with a not safe for work image!

http://politicalscra


pbook.net/2014/05/na


zi-tattoo-ukip-candi


date-in-mystery-powd


er-naked-photoshoot/
And the tattoos are genuine?
I can't be sure from a photo, but they have that faded blue look that real ones have as opposed to the crisp black of transfer tattoos. Make your own mind up. Although either way, I can't imagine posing naked in a group coke snorting pose with fake nazi tattoos would be much less damaging to someone's political ambitions than doing it with real ones...
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sharpley[/bold] wrote: You really couldn't make this up...A UKIP candidate in Hastings has just been outed as appearing naked in an "art" project photo book alongside another middle aged naked guy snorting white powder off a young woman's backside. The UKIP candidate has a Nazi eagle tattoo on his arm and pictures of two WW2 era german bombers over a Star of David... The link follows, but I should warn you it opens with a not safe for work image! http://politicalscra pbook.net/2014/05/na zi-tattoo-ukip-candi date-in-mystery-powd er-naked-photoshoot/[/p][/quote]And the tattoos are genuine?[/p][/quote]I can't be sure from a photo, but they have that faded blue look that real ones have as opposed to the crisp black of transfer tattoos. Make your own mind up. Although either way, I can't imagine posing naked in a group coke snorting pose with fake nazi tattoos would be much less damaging to someone's political ambitions than doing it with real ones... sharpley
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5:43pm Fri 16 May 14

Mr chock says...

Zeta Function wrote:
Just to remind people what fascism is about: The main elements are an anti-liberal authoritarian state, the promotion of a superior elite over inferior others, the promotion of war and violence as a means to unify the state, the purging of defined inferior others, the expansion of the state through military victories. A populist charismatic leader.
wow i guess i am a fascist .. the only thing i dont understand is this bit.. anti-liberal authoritarian state
[quote][p][bold]Zeta Function[/bold] wrote: Just to remind people what fascism is about: The main elements are an anti-liberal authoritarian state, the promotion of a superior elite over inferior others, the promotion of war and violence as a means to unify the state, the purging of defined inferior others, the expansion of the state through military victories. A populist charismatic leader.[/p][/quote]wow i guess i am a fascist .. the only thing i dont understand is this bit.. anti-liberal authoritarian state Mr chock
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6:00pm Sat 17 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

" I can't imagine posing naked in a group coke snorting pose with fake nazi tattoos would be much less damaging to someone's political ambitions than doing it with real ones..."

And if they were added at a later date without his knowledge?
" I can't imagine posing naked in a group coke snorting pose with fake nazi tattoos would be much less damaging to someone's political ambitions than doing it with real ones..." And if they were added at a later date without his knowledge? ZeeGee, ffs
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