Brighton pub Rose Hill Tavern handed over to property developers

Last orders called at popular pub

Last orders called at popular pub

First published in News

Last orders was called for the final time at a popular pub before the keys are handed over to property developers.

Regulars enjoyed one last get-together at the 144-year- old Rose Hill Tavern in Rose Hill Terrace, Brighton.

The current owner, Enterprise Inns, has said the business is no longer viable.

But drinkers still harbour hopes that having the pub listed “as an asset of community value” could prevent developers turning the building into flats. Brighton Pavilion MP Caroline Lucas was among those at the pub.

She said: “I’ve come down tonight because I feel really gutted that this could be the last night of this really popular pub.

“Over the last few weeks and months it has been demonstrated that it can be viable and over 400 people have signed a petition to keep it open.

“Even though the clock is ticking I’m still hoping even at this last moment we might be able to save it.”

Regulars gathered at the pub to drink the bar dry and enjoy a final cabaret performance by drag queen Sally Vate.

Malcolm Smale, 62, of the Brighton Morris Men, said the folk dancers traditionally open their season there on St George’s Day.

He said: “With all the new developments and the new student housing on London Road this place could have kept going no problem, but they are only looking at the short-term numbers.”

Warren Tullett, 48, said he has used the pub since he moved to Brighton three years ago.

He said: “This pub is a sanctuary for many people where they come to relax.

“Other pubs have big screens and loud music, but this a debating pub where people sit around and talk to each other.”

Some pub-goers could barely contain their anger.

Bob Dinmore, 62, said: “I am totally disgusted that it is closing. I have been coming to this pub for 44 years and I cannot believe this is happening.”

Jim Patience, 37, of John Street, said he has been a patron for 17 years.

“It is just a shame. We need another place con- verted into flats like we need a hole in the head.”

A spokesperson for Enterprise Inns said: “We are in the process of completing a sale to a buyer but we do not have information on their intentions with the site.”

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7:45am Tue 20 May 14

rogerthefish says...

unfortunately the £1 a pint stay at home crowd have done this, draft beer in pubs should have tax reduced and supermarket/off licence beer should be increased, there are so many saddo's drinking at home, get out and have a party!
unfortunately the £1 a pint stay at home crowd have done this, draft beer in pubs should have tax reduced and supermarket/off licence beer should be increased, there are so many saddo's drinking at home, get out and have a party! rogerthefish
  • Score: -2

8:25am Tue 20 May 14

tykemison says...

Or perhaps Enterprise just want to sell and earn as all property"developers"
do.Just dodgy immoral charlatans pillaging our Cities and Towns across England laughing at our not fit for purpose planning departments and turning every available building into "multi occupancy"without opposition from local councils, disgrace.
Or perhaps Enterprise just want to sell and earn as all property"developers" do.Just dodgy immoral charlatans pillaging our Cities and Towns across England laughing at our not fit for purpose planning departments and turning every available building into "multi occupancy"without opposition from local councils, disgrace. tykemison
  • Score: 25

8:34am Tue 20 May 14

AGT999 says...

I bet Lucas is a regular user of the pub. Also gives her another band wagon to jump aboard
I bet Lucas is a regular user of the pub. Also gives her another band wagon to jump aboard AGT999
  • Score: -9

8:55am Tue 20 May 14

Eugenius says...

AGT999 wrote:
I bet Lucas is a regular user of the pub. Also gives her another band wagon to jump aboard
It is in her neck of the woods and also handy for the Duke of Yorks cinema which she enjoys. I'm personally very sad to see this little gem close.
[quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: I bet Lucas is a regular user of the pub. Also gives her another band wagon to jump aboard[/p][/quote]It is in her neck of the woods and also handy for the Duke of Yorks cinema which she enjoys. I'm personally very sad to see this little gem close. Eugenius
  • Score: 20

8:59am Tue 20 May 14

Max Ripple says...

"The pub is no longer commercially viable" said someone from Enterprise Inns. No longer commercially viable under their business plan. Which I can tell you from personal experience is just to screw as much rent out of tenants and overcharge for their beer, wines and spirits. The Rosehill was a fully tied pub and legally HAD to buy their products from Enterprise. If you can't buy products for the same money that supermarkets and off licences sell it at then you can never sell beer etc at a price that makes it attractive to the punter.
Barrel of Guinness from a wholesaler £115. Barrel of Guinness from Enterprise £170. Do the maths and work it out.
Enterprise will also not reduce rents as it reduces the book value of their pubs/estate and their bankers wouldn't like that. Enterprise are heavily in debt to Deutsche Bank and would rather close what they call "unprofitable" pubs than keep them going with less rent and probably slightly lower beer sales.
This is currently the state of the game with pubcos like Enterprise. Govt won't interfere either. But as they say "use it or lose it".
"The pub is no longer commercially viable" said someone from Enterprise Inns. No longer commercially viable under their business plan. Which I can tell you from personal experience is just to screw as much rent out of tenants and overcharge for their beer, wines and spirits. The Rosehill was a fully tied pub and legally HAD to buy their products from Enterprise. If you can't buy products for the same money that supermarkets and off licences sell it at then you can never sell beer etc at a price that makes it attractive to the punter. Barrel of Guinness from a wholesaler £115. Barrel of Guinness from Enterprise £170. Do the maths and work it out. Enterprise will also not reduce rents as it reduces the book value of their pubs/estate and their bankers wouldn't like that. Enterprise are heavily in debt to Deutsche Bank and would rather close what they call "unprofitable" pubs than keep them going with less rent and probably slightly lower beer sales. This is currently the state of the game with pubcos like Enterprise. Govt won't interfere either. But as they say "use it or lose it". Max Ripple
  • Score: 52

9:15am Tue 20 May 14

NickBrt says...

Did Lucas go in the pub or sit in the road outside it like in Balcombe?
Did Lucas go in the pub or sit in the road outside it like in Balcombe? NickBrt
  • Score: -1

9:59am Tue 20 May 14

LargeAndInCharge says...

rogerthefish wrote:
unfortunately the £1 a pint stay at home crowd have done this, draft beer in pubs should have tax reduced and supermarket/off licence beer should be increased, there are so many saddo's drinking at home, get out and have a party!
It's not just cheaper booze. It's the fact that all you find in most pubs these days is a load of @$$h0£€$ who just want to dig you up and have a fight, or ponce off you!! I haven't been to a pub for years now because the majority of them all seem to have their little cliques, and if you're not in one of those cliques you're made to feel very unwelcome...
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: unfortunately the £1 a pint stay at home crowd have done this, draft beer in pubs should have tax reduced and supermarket/off licence beer should be increased, there are so many saddo's drinking at home, get out and have a party![/p][/quote]It's not just cheaper booze. It's the fact that all you find in most pubs these days is a load of @$$h0£€$ who just want to dig you up and have a fight, or ponce off you!! I haven't been to a pub for years now because the majority of them all seem to have their little cliques, and if you're not in one of those cliques you're made to feel very unwelcome... LargeAndInCharge
  • Score: 4

10:00am Tue 20 May 14

jay316 says...

AGT999 wrote:
I bet Lucas is a regular user of the pub. Also gives her another band wagon to jump aboard
In her defence, at least she made the effort, Didn't see any Lib Dem, Con or Labour MPs or councillors there!
[quote][p][bold]AGT999[/bold] wrote: I bet Lucas is a regular user of the pub. Also gives her another band wagon to jump aboard[/p][/quote]In her defence, at least she made the effort, Didn't see any Lib Dem, Con or Labour MPs or councillors there! jay316
  • Score: 21

10:01am Tue 20 May 14

jay316 says...

NickBrt wrote:
Did Lucas go in the pub or sit in the road outside it like in Balcombe?
She was inside enjoying the entertainment! As I said above, at least she made the effort!
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Did Lucas go in the pub or sit in the road outside it like in Balcombe?[/p][/quote]She was inside enjoying the entertainment! As I said above, at least she made the effort! jay316
  • Score: 10

10:02am Tue 20 May 14

Mel Shock says...

Enterprise getting rid of yet another community pub........wasn't the London Unity one of theirs ?
Enterprise getting rid of yet another community pub........wasn't the London Unity one of theirs ? Mel Shock
  • Score: 16

10:12am Tue 20 May 14

clubrob6 says...

If someone bought this pub and was not tied to a brewery where you pay a fortune for your alcohol it would work.Unfortunately the building is worth more due to the excessive prices for properties in B&H so probably property developers will end up converting it into more rabbit hutch studio flats.I think its time to put some sort of protection order on such pubs to stop property developers ruining our city.These places don't cause trouble its the 24hr supermarkets that sell booze who are also the cause of the overnight mess on the beaches.
If someone bought this pub and was not tied to a brewery where you pay a fortune for your alcohol it would work.Unfortunately the building is worth more due to the excessive prices for properties in B&H so probably property developers will end up converting it into more rabbit hutch studio flats.I think its time to put some sort of protection order on such pubs to stop property developers ruining our city.These places don't cause trouble its the 24hr supermarkets that sell booze who are also the cause of the overnight mess on the beaches. clubrob6
  • Score: 22

10:13am Tue 20 May 14

jay316 says...

Mel Shock wrote:
Enterprise getting rid of yet another community pub........wasn't the London Unity one of theirs ?
Yes, and the Cuthburt.. And the smuggles in the lanes..
[quote][p][bold]Mel Shock[/bold] wrote: Enterprise getting rid of yet another community pub........wasn't the London Unity one of theirs ?[/p][/quote]Yes, and the Cuthburt.. And the smuggles in the lanes.. jay316
  • Score: 16

10:23am Tue 20 May 14

Man of steel says...

Mel Shock wrote:
Enterprise getting rid of yet another community pub........wasn't the London Unity one of theirs ?
Yes, it was.
They are selling off their pubs all over England, the amount that are now flats in London is a total disgrace.
They seem to replace good managers with people that do not have much of an idea in running a pub, who then get replaced very quickly, I think it was 4 of them in the last 6 months at the Unity.
They refused to sell it on as a pub because they have others in the area, and did not want anybody making a success of it and creating oppostion to them, I suspect the same goes for the Rosehill.
[quote][p][bold]Mel Shock[/bold] wrote: Enterprise getting rid of yet another community pub........wasn't the London Unity one of theirs ?[/p][/quote]Yes, it was. They are selling off their pubs all over England, the amount that are now flats in London is a total disgrace. They seem to replace good managers with people that do not have much of an idea in running a pub, who then get replaced very quickly, I think it was 4 of them in the last 6 months at the Unity. They refused to sell it on as a pub because they have others in the area, and did not want anybody making a success of it and creating oppostion to them, I suspect the same goes for the Rosehill. Man of steel
  • Score: 15

11:19am Tue 20 May 14

AGT999 says...

clubrob6 wrote:
If someone bought this pub and was not tied to a brewery where you pay a fortune for your alcohol it would work.Unfortunately the building is worth more due to the excessive prices for properties in B&H so probably property developers will end up converting it into more rabbit hutch studio flats.I think its time to put some sort of protection order on such pubs to stop property developers ruining our city.These places don't cause trouble its the 24hr supermarkets that sell booze who are also the cause of the overnight mess on the beaches.
The best protection a pub can have is people actually using them rather than moaning when they close due to the lack of customers.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: If someone bought this pub and was not tied to a brewery where you pay a fortune for your alcohol it would work.Unfortunately the building is worth more due to the excessive prices for properties in B&H so probably property developers will end up converting it into more rabbit hutch studio flats.I think its time to put some sort of protection order on such pubs to stop property developers ruining our city.These places don't cause trouble its the 24hr supermarkets that sell booze who are also the cause of the overnight mess on the beaches.[/p][/quote]The best protection a pub can have is people actually using them rather than moaning when they close due to the lack of customers. AGT999
  • Score: 3

11:31am Tue 20 May 14

Old Ladys Gin says...

rogerthefish wrote:
unfortunately the £1 a pint stay at home crowd have done this, draft beer in pubs should have tax reduced and supermarket/off licence beer should be increased, there are so many saddo's drinking at home, get out and have a party!
Your last few words are one of the reasons a lot of people avoid pubs; they don't want to go there to 'party'.
They want to go there and have a quiet pint/glass of wine/ soft drink and relax or engage in conversation; perhaps just watch the world go by.
The idea of being forcibly engaged in a 'party' has them running for cover.
Don't even get me started on the subject of being forced to endure other peoples poor taste in music.
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: unfortunately the £1 a pint stay at home crowd have done this, draft beer in pubs should have tax reduced and supermarket/off licence beer should be increased, there are so many saddo's drinking at home, get out and have a party![/p][/quote]Your last few words are one of the reasons a lot of people avoid pubs; they don't want to go there to 'party'. They want to go there and have a quiet pint/glass of wine/ soft drink and relax or engage in conversation; perhaps just watch the world go by. The idea of being forcibly engaged in a 'party' has them running for cover. Don't even get me started on the subject of being forced to endure other peoples poor taste in music. Old Ladys Gin
  • Score: 12

11:38am Tue 20 May 14

Mr chock says...

Caroline lucas was in this pub in her spare time and had a bit of a switch off from campaigning on the stinky old London bus great work " lets guess she is confident of getting lots of votes on may 22 " but lets also not forget she is responsible for the 300 student accommodation block the former coop in london road being built . This pub closing must know something we dont .. or lets hope its not closing because Caroline Lucas frequented the place ..BLUE PLAQUE OUTSIDE last orders last orders
Caroline lucas was in this pub in her spare time and had a bit of a switch off from campaigning on the stinky old London bus great work " lets guess she is confident of getting lots of votes on may 22 " but lets also not forget she is responsible for the 300 student accommodation block the former coop in london road being built . This pub closing must know something we dont .. or lets hope its not closing because Caroline Lucas frequented the place ..BLUE PLAQUE OUTSIDE last orders last orders Mr chock
  • Score: -15

12:11pm Tue 20 May 14

Eugenius says...

Mr chock wrote:
Caroline lucas was in this pub in her spare time and had a bit of a switch off from campaigning on the stinky old London bus great work " lets guess she is confident of getting lots of votes on may 22 " but lets also not forget she is responsible for the 300 student accommodation block the former coop in london road being built . This pub closing must know something we dont .. or lets hope its not closing because Caroline Lucas frequented the place ..BLUE PLAQUE OUTSIDE last orders last orders
Green Party campaign bus runs on recycled chip fat and surely the new local student clientele would be good for the Rose Hill Tavern so the points you attempted to make are a load of rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: Caroline lucas was in this pub in her spare time and had a bit of a switch off from campaigning on the stinky old London bus great work " lets guess she is confident of getting lots of votes on may 22 " but lets also not forget she is responsible for the 300 student accommodation block the former coop in london road being built . This pub closing must know something we dont .. or lets hope its not closing because Caroline Lucas frequented the place ..BLUE PLAQUE OUTSIDE last orders last orders[/p][/quote]Green Party campaign bus runs on recycled chip fat and surely the new local student clientele would be good for the Rose Hill Tavern so the points you attempted to make are a load of rubbish. Eugenius
  • Score: 7

12:14pm Tue 20 May 14

stanfordsteve says...

Man of steel wrote:
Mel Shock wrote:
Enterprise getting rid of yet another community pub........wasn't the London Unity one of theirs ?
Yes, it was.
They are selling off their pubs all over England, the amount that are now flats in London is a total disgrace.
They seem to replace good managers with people that do not have much of an idea in running a pub, who then get replaced very quickly, I think it was 4 of them in the last 6 months at the Unity.
They refused to sell it on as a pub because they have others in the area, and did not want anybody making a success of it and creating oppostion to them, I suspect the same goes for the Rosehill.
In this case, I know the landlord, Rachael, worked damned hard to make the Rose Hill Tavern a great place to spend time. She knows how to run a pub, is lovely to chat with and was absolutely gutted when Entrprise pulled out the rug from under her.
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mel Shock[/bold] wrote: Enterprise getting rid of yet another community pub........wasn't the London Unity one of theirs ?[/p][/quote]Yes, it was. They are selling off their pubs all over England, the amount that are now flats in London is a total disgrace. They seem to replace good managers with people that do not have much of an idea in running a pub, who then get replaced very quickly, I think it was 4 of them in the last 6 months at the Unity. They refused to sell it on as a pub because they have others in the area, and did not want anybody making a success of it and creating oppostion to them, I suspect the same goes for the Rosehill.[/p][/quote]In this case, I know the landlord, Rachael, worked damned hard to make the Rose Hill Tavern a great place to spend time. She knows how to run a pub, is lovely to chat with and was absolutely gutted when Entrprise pulled out the rug from under her. stanfordsteve
  • Score: 16

12:20pm Tue 20 May 14

Mr chock says...

Eugenius wrote:
Mr chock wrote:
Caroline lucas was in this pub in her spare time and had a bit of a switch off from campaigning on the stinky old London bus great work " lets guess she is confident of getting lots of votes on may 22 " but lets also not forget she is responsible for the 300 student accommodation block the former coop in london road being built . This pub closing must know something we dont .. or lets hope its not closing because Caroline Lucas frequented the place ..BLUE PLAQUE OUTSIDE last orders last orders
Green Party campaign bus runs on recycled chip fat and surely the new local student clientele would be good for the Rose Hill Tavern so the points you attempted to make are a load of rubbish.
...exactly.. STINKY have you seen it .. and the comment is clear the student accommodation the old Coop will have brought in new many many new customers .. are you reading it incorrectly EuGenius ?
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: Caroline lucas was in this pub in her spare time and had a bit of a switch off from campaigning on the stinky old London bus great work " lets guess she is confident of getting lots of votes on may 22 " but lets also not forget she is responsible for the 300 student accommodation block the former coop in london road being built . This pub closing must know something we dont .. or lets hope its not closing because Caroline Lucas frequented the place ..BLUE PLAQUE OUTSIDE last orders last orders[/p][/quote]Green Party campaign bus runs on recycled chip fat and surely the new local student clientele would be good for the Rose Hill Tavern so the points you attempted to make are a load of rubbish.[/p][/quote]...exactly.. STINKY have you seen it .. and the comment is clear the student accommodation the old Coop will have brought in new many many new customers .. are you reading it incorrectly EuGenius ? Mr chock
  • Score: 0

12:31pm Tue 20 May 14

jay316 says...

Sadly pubs owned by enterprise have to charge over the odds for their beer, simply because of the huge amounts that they get charged. They say its not viable.. Well Rachel in 6 months has turned this venue around.. Great Ales, Great Clientèle and great Sunday roasts. !! It is viable and we hope now its listed as an Asset of Community Value, the community can purchase and keep it running.!

As I said to Caroline, and others I am not interested in party affiliation, this is to save this pub, nothing more, nothing less.!
Sadly pubs owned by enterprise have to charge over the odds for their beer, simply because of the huge amounts that they get charged. They say its not viable.. Well Rachel in 6 months has turned this venue around.. Great Ales, Great Clientèle and great Sunday roasts. !! It is viable and we hope now its listed as an Asset of Community Value, the community can purchase and keep it running.! As I said to Caroline, and others I am not interested in party affiliation, this is to save this pub, nothing more, nothing less.! jay316
  • Score: 10

2:29pm Tue 20 May 14

Brighton Bill says...

This is really a sad loss to Brighton, but I have been proved right, Hove has got permission for a new pub in Richardson Road like i said it would, the Nimbys need to know the rules, bring it on soon as possible. Brighton Bill in Bradford West Yorkshire.
This is really a sad loss to Brighton, but I have been proved right, Hove has got permission for a new pub in Richardson Road like i said it would, the Nimbys need to know the rules, bring it on soon as possible. Brighton Bill in Bradford West Yorkshire. Brighton Bill
  • Score: 3

3:04pm Tue 20 May 14

Curat0r says...

Well as I stated in the other article I knew this would not end well.

“Other pubs have big screens and loud music, but this a debating pub where people sit around and talk to each other.”

I find this sentence hilarious considering the noise volume that came from the pub over the weekend, particularly on Friday night.
Well as I stated in the other article I knew this would not end well. “Other pubs have big screens and loud music, but this a debating pub where people sit around and talk to each other.” I find this sentence hilarious considering the noise volume that came from the pub over the weekend, particularly on Friday night. Curat0r
  • Score: 1

3:49pm Tue 20 May 14

jay316 says...

Curat0r wrote:
Well as I stated in the other article I knew this would not end well.

“Other pubs have big screens and loud music, but this a debating pub where people sit around and talk to each other.”

I find this sentence hilarious considering the noise volume that came from the pub over the weekend, particularly on Friday night.
Really, every day its loud is it! or just this weekend!...
[quote][p][bold]Curat0r[/bold] wrote: Well as I stated in the other article I knew this would not end well. “Other pubs have big screens and loud music, but this a debating pub where people sit around and talk to each other.” I find this sentence hilarious considering the noise volume that came from the pub over the weekend, particularly on Friday night.[/p][/quote]Really, every day its loud is it! or just this weekend!... jay316
  • Score: 0

9:01pm Tue 20 May 14

HJarrs says...

Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008.

We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in.

I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place.
Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008. We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in. I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. HJarrs
  • Score: 9

1:03am Wed 21 May 14

whatevernext2013 says...

Mel Shock wrote:
Enterprise getting rid of yet another community pub........wasn't the London Unity one of theirs ?
pubs close due to lack of customers hench lack of profit ,if people wont support them they close its simple really use it or lose it
[quote][p][bold]Mel Shock[/bold] wrote: Enterprise getting rid of yet another community pub........wasn't the London Unity one of theirs ?[/p][/quote]pubs close due to lack of customers hench lack of profit ,if people wont support them they close its simple really use it or lose it whatevernext2013
  • Score: -2

3:12am Wed 21 May 14

Mr chock says...

ohh i guess now the pub that was just ringing in "almost last orders.."
UPDATE in argus tonight.. http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news/11225568.
Battle_to_save_histo
ric_pub_boosted/?ref
=mac
ohh i guess now the pub that was just ringing in "almost last orders.." UPDATE in argus tonight.. http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11225568. Battle_to_save_histo ric_pub_boosted/?ref =mac Mr chock
  • Score: 0

12:32pm Wed 21 May 14

Fairfax Aches says...

"Community" what rot. The only community a pub fosters is that of alcoholism, violence and ill health. And in case you didn't notice, Brighton doesn't have a "community" as such-it is an post modern conurbation housing transient renters, and London commuters. There is no shared values or community spirit, give me a break! The only actual communities are those of students and the low skilled foreign workers (and maybe the "alternative lifestyle" types)
"Community" what rot. The only community a pub fosters is that of alcoholism, violence and ill health. And in case you didn't notice, Brighton doesn't have a "community" as such-it is an post modern conurbation housing transient renters, and London commuters. There is no shared values or community spirit, give me a break! The only actual communities are those of students and the low skilled foreign workers (and maybe the "alternative lifestyle" types) Fairfax Aches
  • Score: -6

4:18pm Wed 21 May 14

jimthedoorman says...

Fairfax Aches wrote:
"Community" what rot. The only community a pub fosters is that of alcoholism, violence and ill health. And in case you didn't notice, Brighton doesn't have a "community" as such-it is an post modern conurbation housing transient renters, and London commuters. There is no shared values or community spirit, give me a break! The only actual communities are those of students and the low skilled foreign workers (and maybe the "alternative lifestyle" types)
People like you are the reason why some "communities" don't exist. Not willing to get on with anyone, speak to anyone or even have a pint with them.
Alcoholism exists, yes. Would they be served if they rocked up to a bar drunk? No.
Renters, yes. I rent my flat and guess what? I can still get on with people, so you can stick that theory where the sun doesn't shine (although you believe it does)
London commuters indeed. If they didn't like Brighton then they wouldn't live here. See above for what you can do with that wonderfully researched theory of yours.
Violence? Really? I've never heard of "such rot" to quote you good self. When there has been an event at a venue that will garner more than the usual amount of clientele, there are licensed, registered, criminal record checked door supervisors on the door. I should know.
"Low skilled foreign workers"? I think the furthest that someone happened to have been born away from this venue is Wales. And he is a top bloke and knows his ales very well.

I suggest doing your research before slandering a venue that you clearly know nothing about.
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: "Community" what rot. The only community a pub fosters is that of alcoholism, violence and ill health. And in case you didn't notice, Brighton doesn't have a "community" as such-it is an post modern conurbation housing transient renters, and London commuters. There is no shared values or community spirit, give me a break! The only actual communities are those of students and the low skilled foreign workers (and maybe the "alternative lifestyle" types)[/p][/quote]People like you are the reason why some "communities" don't exist. Not willing to get on with anyone, speak to anyone or even have a pint with them. Alcoholism exists, yes. Would they be served if they rocked up to a bar drunk? No. Renters, yes. I rent my flat and guess what? I can still get on with people, so you can stick that theory where the sun doesn't shine (although you believe it does) London commuters indeed. If they didn't like Brighton then they wouldn't live here. See above for what you can do with that wonderfully researched theory of yours. Violence? Really? I've never heard of "such rot" to quote you good self. When there has been an event at a venue that will garner more than the usual amount of clientele, there are licensed, registered, criminal record checked door supervisors on the door. I should know. "Low skilled foreign workers"? I think the furthest that someone happened to have been born away from this venue is Wales. And he is a top bloke and knows his ales very well. I suggest doing your research before slandering a venue that you clearly know nothing about. jimthedoorman
  • Score: 12

8:14pm Wed 21 May 14

jay316 says...

Fairfax Aches wrote:
"Community" what rot. The only community a pub fosters is that of alcoholism, violence and ill health. And in case you didn't notice, Brighton doesn't have a "community" as such-it is an post modern conurbation housing transient renters, and London commuters. There is no shared values or community spirit, give me a break! The only actual communities are those of students and the low skilled foreign workers (and maybe the "alternative lifestyle" types)
So you have medical proof of these facts, including those people who don't drink Alcohol, or you just jumping on the Anti Everything bandwagon!

From your comments you must be a high paid banker type person (or similar role).
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: "Community" what rot. The only community a pub fosters is that of alcoholism, violence and ill health. And in case you didn't notice, Brighton doesn't have a "community" as such-it is an post modern conurbation housing transient renters, and London commuters. There is no shared values or community spirit, give me a break! The only actual communities are those of students and the low skilled foreign workers (and maybe the "alternative lifestyle" types)[/p][/quote]So you have medical proof of these facts, including those people who don't drink Alcohol, or you just jumping on the Anti Everything bandwagon! From your comments you must be a high paid banker type person (or similar role). jay316
  • Score: 6

10:39am Thu 22 May 14

Smartbloke says...

clubrob6 wrote:
If someone bought this pub and was not tied to a brewery where you pay a fortune for your alcohol it would work.Unfortunately the building is worth more due to the excessive prices for properties in B&H so probably property developers will end up converting it into more rabbit hutch studio flats.I think its time to put some sort of protection order on such pubs to stop property developers ruining our city.These places don't cause trouble its the 24hr supermarkets that sell booze who are also the cause of the overnight mess on the beaches.
They're trying to do this in Parliament - Greg Mulholland MP is spearheading the drive to save Britain's pubs from pubco behaviour.

Sadly he's being thwarted by government apathy and vested interests within the Cabinet.

It's a campaign that need more supporters. Google 'Greg Mulholland' for more info.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: If someone bought this pub and was not tied to a brewery where you pay a fortune for your alcohol it would work.Unfortunately the building is worth more due to the excessive prices for properties in B&H so probably property developers will end up converting it into more rabbit hutch studio flats.I think its time to put some sort of protection order on such pubs to stop property developers ruining our city.These places don't cause trouble its the 24hr supermarkets that sell booze who are also the cause of the overnight mess on the beaches.[/p][/quote]They're trying to do this in Parliament - Greg Mulholland MP is spearheading the drive to save Britain's pubs from pubco behaviour. Sadly he's being thwarted by government apathy and vested interests within the Cabinet. It's a campaign that need more supporters. Google 'Greg Mulholland' for more info. Smartbloke
  • Score: 5

10:41am Thu 22 May 14

Smartbloke says...

Mr chock wrote:
Caroline lucas was in this pub in her spare time and had a bit of a switch off from campaigning on the stinky old London bus great work " lets guess she is confident of getting lots of votes on may 22 " but lets also not forget she is responsible for the 300 student accommodation block the former coop in london road being built . This pub closing must know something we dont .. or lets hope its not closing because Caroline Lucas frequented the place ..BLUE PLAQUE OUTSIDE last orders last orders
What an idiot.

Embarrassing comment from start to finish made by someone who doesn't know what they're on about.

Your Mummy must be very proud of you.
[quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: Caroline lucas was in this pub in her spare time and had a bit of a switch off from campaigning on the stinky old London bus great work " lets guess she is confident of getting lots of votes on may 22 " but lets also not forget she is responsible for the 300 student accommodation block the former coop in london road being built . This pub closing must know something we dont .. or lets hope its not closing because Caroline Lucas frequented the place ..BLUE PLAQUE OUTSIDE last orders last orders[/p][/quote]What an idiot. Embarrassing comment from start to finish made by someone who doesn't know what they're on about. Your Mummy must be very proud of you. Smartbloke
  • Score: 0

10:43am Thu 22 May 14

Smartbloke says...

Fairfax Aches wrote:
"Community" what rot. The only community a pub fosters is that of alcoholism, violence and ill health. And in case you didn't notice, Brighton doesn't have a "community" as such-it is an post modern conurbation housing transient renters, and London commuters. There is no shared values or community spirit, give me a break! The only actual communities are those of students and the low skilled foreign workers (and maybe the "alternative lifestyle" types)
Ah, another idiot.

Have you met Mr Chock? You can compare notes.

Oh sorry, you won't. You hate people.
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: "Community" what rot. The only community a pub fosters is that of alcoholism, violence and ill health. And in case you didn't notice, Brighton doesn't have a "community" as such-it is an post modern conurbation housing transient renters, and London commuters. There is no shared values or community spirit, give me a break! The only actual communities are those of students and the low skilled foreign workers (and maybe the "alternative lifestyle" types)[/p][/quote]Ah, another idiot. Have you met Mr Chock? You can compare notes. Oh sorry, you won't. You hate people. Smartbloke
  • Score: 2

9:29pm Wed 28 May 14

Mr chock says...

Smartbloke wrote:
Fairfax Aches wrote:
"Community" what rot. The only community a pub fosters is that of alcoholism, violence and ill health. And in case you didn't notice, Brighton doesn't have a "community" as such-it is an post modern conurbation housing transient renters, and London commuters. There is no shared values or community spirit, give me a break! The only actual communities are those of students and the low skilled foreign workers (and maybe the "alternative lifestyle" types)
Ah, another idiot.

Have you met Mr Chock? You can compare notes.

Oh sorry, you won't. You hate people.
ohh yes and your comment is great we will worship your very being and presents on this sites comments area .. do you i do not mind being called a troll but the fact is my comment is correct.. smartb has left comments for others such a big man
[quote][p][bold]Smartbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: "Community" what rot. The only community a pub fosters is that of alcoholism, violence and ill health. And in case you didn't notice, Brighton doesn't have a "community" as such-it is an post modern conurbation housing transient renters, and London commuters. There is no shared values or community spirit, give me a break! The only actual communities are those of students and the low skilled foreign workers (and maybe the "alternative lifestyle" types)[/p][/quote]Ah, another idiot. Have you met Mr Chock? You can compare notes. Oh sorry, you won't. You hate people.[/p][/quote]ohh yes and your comment is great we will worship your very being and presents on this sites comments area .. do you i do not mind being called a troll but the fact is my comment is correct.. smartb has left comments for others such a big man Mr chock
  • Score: 0

1:31pm Fri 30 May 14

cookie_brighton says...

Mr chock wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Mr chock wrote:
Caroline lucas was in this pub in her spare time and had a bit of a switch off from campaigning on the stinky old London bus great work " lets guess she is confident of getting lots of votes on may 22 " but lets also not forget she is responsible for the 300 student accommodation block the former coop in london road being built . This pub closing must know something we dont .. or lets hope its not closing because Caroline Lucas frequented the place ..BLUE PLAQUE OUTSIDE last orders last orders
Green Party campaign bus runs on recycled chip fat and surely the new local student clientele would be good for the Rose Hill Tavern so the points you attempted to make are a load of rubbish.
...exactly.. STINKY have you seen it .. and the comment is clear the student accommodation the old Coop will have brought in new many many new customers .. are you reading it incorrectly EuGenius ?
not really.....as I heard in sept last year from a barmaid in wetherpoons, george street, I was there for a friends 60th, that a wetherspoons is going to London road, I asked her where, she did not know where, the next day my said friend phoned me and said he was in the mentioned wetherspoons and he asked the manager....where in London road is the wetherspoons pub going.........my friend told me he replied.....in the Old Coop building
[quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: Caroline lucas was in this pub in her spare time and had a bit of a switch off from campaigning on the stinky old London bus great work " lets guess she is confident of getting lots of votes on may 22 " but lets also not forget she is responsible for the 300 student accommodation block the former coop in london road being built . This pub closing must know something we dont .. or lets hope its not closing because Caroline Lucas frequented the place ..BLUE PLAQUE OUTSIDE last orders last orders[/p][/quote]Green Party campaign bus runs on recycled chip fat and surely the new local student clientele would be good for the Rose Hill Tavern so the points you attempted to make are a load of rubbish.[/p][/quote]...exactly.. STINKY have you seen it .. and the comment is clear the student accommodation the old Coop will have brought in new many many new customers .. are you reading it incorrectly EuGenius ?[/p][/quote]not really.....as I heard in sept last year from a barmaid in wetherpoons, george street, I was there for a friends 60th, that a wetherspoons is going to London road, I asked her where, she did not know where, the next day my said friend phoned me and said he was in the mentioned wetherspoons and he asked the manager....where in London road is the wetherspoons pub going.........my friend told me he replied.....in the Old Coop building cookie_brighton
  • Score: 1

1:41pm Fri 30 May 14

Brighton Bill says...

Sorry to say we have lost this lovely pub, the sale has gone through, 6 Month stay of execution has been made too late. R.I.P. Rose Hill Tavern.
Sorry to say we have lost this lovely pub, the sale has gone through, 6 Month stay of execution has been made too late. R.I.P. Rose Hill Tavern. Brighton Bill
  • Score: 0

12:01pm Thu 5 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Yet another thing that Lucas got involved with turns to sh*t.
Yet another thing that Lucas got involved with turns to sh*t. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

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