The ArgusCyclist critical after freak accident (From The Argus)

Get involved: Send your news, views, pictures and video by texting SUPIC to 80360 or email us.

Cyclist critical after freak accident in Lewes

The Argus: Cyclist critical after freak accident Cyclist critical after freak accident

A cyclist was fighting for life last night after crashing as he swerved to avoid two young boys.

The 49-year-old cyclist swerved to avoid hitting the boys, aged four and six, as they played on skateboards in South Street, Lewes.

The cyclist from Lewes was last night still being treated at Kings College Hospital in London for serious head injuries.

The boys' mother told The Argus: “My children saw the whole thing and were very upset by it. They still are extremely upset.”

Residents said the road was often used as a cut-through into the town centre by cyclists.

Neighbour Amanda Rousham said: “There's a couple of little boys who play on their skateboards in the evening.”

She added: “It sounds like a real tragedy.

“The road is very narrow here and there are a lot of parked cars and there wouldn't have been much space to manoeuvre.

“It sounds like he did everything he could to try to avoid hitting the children and came off very badly.”

Residents and customers from the Snowdrop Inn who witnessed the collision at about 6.40pm on Sunday tried to give the cyclist first aid and blocked the road until police and the air ambulance arrived.

Dominic McCartan, licensee at the Snowdrop, said the road is used as a cut through by cyclists.

“Some of our customers were leaving the pub and stopped to help. One of my staff stopped the traffic coming down until the police arrived.

“I haven't seen any of them since but everyone will have been very upset by it. And I would think the children's parents will be very upset about what's happened.”

Sussex Air Ambulance landed in a nearby car park before taking the cyclist to King's College Hospital, where he was last night still in a critical condition.

A resident of South Street, who did not wish to be named, said: “We see a few little ones on skateboards, mainly before and after school.”

Sussex Police are appealing for any witnesses who saw the collision to call 101, quoting Operation Padstow.

Comments (37)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

6:58am Wed 28 May 14

Sussex jim says...

Cyclists entering Lewes from the south-east HAVE to use South Street, as the only other road goes through the tunnel from which non-motor traffic is banned.
Cyclists entering Lewes from the south-east HAVE to use South Street, as the only other road goes through the tunnel from which non-motor traffic is banned. Sussex jim
  • Score: 66

7:26am Wed 28 May 14

John Steed says...

Sussex jim is correct in his statement , the cyclist whose name is known to me, is well known in the town and is a responsible road user, this is a tragic accident leaving him in a very serious condition, also leaving his family, the two boys and their family all in shock. let us hope that he makes a full recovery and every one concerned is able to deal with this horrific event.
Sussex jim is correct in his statement , the cyclist whose name is known to me, is well known in the town and is a responsible road user, this is a tragic accident leaving him in a very serious condition, also leaving his family, the two boys and their family all in shock. let us hope that he makes a full recovery and every one concerned is able to deal with this horrific event. John Steed
  • Score: 61

8:14am Wed 28 May 14

BURIRAM says...

Hope the cyclist makes a full recovery but why allow boys aged 4 and 6 to play on a road.
Hope the cyclist makes a full recovery but why allow boys aged 4 and 6 to play on a road. BURIRAM
  • Score: 63

8:46am Wed 28 May 14

babsticals says...

Why oh why are two small children allowed to play out on a road that us full of parked vehicles or any road for that matter? Come on some of you parents,use your common sense! The boys mother says,quote,",the boys saw the whole thing,and they are extremely upset by it,"of cause they will be,but why let them play in the road in the first place? If they had been looked after properly,the poor cyclist would not be fighting for his life! I hope the cyclist makes a full recovery,my thoughts go out to him and his family.
Why oh why are two small children allowed to play out on a road that us full of parked vehicles or any road for that matter? Come on some of you parents,use your common sense! The boys mother says,quote,",the boys saw the whole thing,and they are extremely upset by it,"of cause they will be,but why let them play in the road in the first place? If they had been looked after properly,the poor cyclist would not be fighting for his life! I hope the cyclist makes a full recovery,my thoughts go out to him and his family. babsticals
  • Score: 58

9:34am Wed 28 May 14

applecore says...

This story seems to be missing a lot of information, the argus is rapidly going downhill. Sympathies to all involved and thoughts with the cyclist and his family.
This story seems to be missing a lot of information, the argus is rapidly going downhill. Sympathies to all involved and thoughts with the cyclist and his family. applecore
  • Score: 7

9:58am Wed 28 May 14

lindaf says...

Children age 4&6 playing in the road on skateboards??? Are you kidding me??? I hope the poor man makes a full recovery and the police give the parents a good talking to.
Children age 4&6 playing in the road on skateboards??? Are you kidding me??? I hope the poor man makes a full recovery and the police give the parents a good talking to. lindaf
  • Score: 41

11:12am Wed 28 May 14

plantwoman says...

Why do some kids (and their parents) think they're invincible? These do seem very young to be out - and playing in the road too - what were their parents doing? We get teenagers flying along our road on skateboards, they don't keep to their own side, but weave from side to side - madness!
I had a very close call whilst driving my Land Rover, a boy was riding the skateboard down a hill that cut across a main road, he had the foresight to jump off before the skateboard went under my vehicle and out the other side! Phew!
Why do some kids (and their parents) think they're invincible? These do seem very young to be out - and playing in the road too - what were their parents doing? We get teenagers flying along our road on skateboards, they don't keep to their own side, but weave from side to side - madness! I had a very close call whilst driving my Land Rover, a boy was riding the skateboard down a hill that cut across a main road, he had the foresight to jump off before the skateboard went under my vehicle and out the other side! Phew! plantwoman
  • Score: 10

11:24am Wed 28 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

A terrible accident, but I fail to see what is 'freak' about it.

At first, I thought the incident involved a helicopter.

Kids skate on roads. Cyclists and all road users should be aware that anything can be encountered.

I hope he recovers quickly and appreciates that fact.
A terrible accident, but I fail to see what is 'freak' about it. At first, I thought the incident involved a helicopter. Kids skate on roads. Cyclists and all road users should be aware that anything can be encountered. I hope he recovers quickly and appreciates that fact. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -18

12:28pm Wed 28 May 14

Euly says...

My mother lives down there are small boys are always whizzing up and down in the road or on the pavement on scateboards. Typical Lewes dippy hippy parents allowing their kids to "express themselves". I have found these kids charging up and down the road with no awareness of cars or pedestrians. I hope the poor man makes a recovery and the parents of said kids learn to control their children.
My mother lives down there are small boys are always whizzing up and down in the road or on the pavement on scateboards. Typical Lewes dippy hippy parents allowing their kids to "express themselves". I have found these kids charging up and down the road with no awareness of cars or pedestrians. I hope the poor man makes a recovery and the parents of said kids learn to control their children. Euly
  • Score: 27

12:31pm Wed 28 May 14

billy goat-gruff says...

Skateboards on roads - and cycle lanes - are a menace as they don't hold their line, like pedestrians and other bikes, but dart around wildly from side to side - best to slow right down until they get out of the way… Hope the cyclist makes a full recovery...
Skateboards on roads - and cycle lanes - are a menace as they don't hold their line, like pedestrians and other bikes, but dart around wildly from side to side - best to slow right down until they get out of the way… Hope the cyclist makes a full recovery... billy goat-gruff
  • Score: 10

12:34pm Wed 28 May 14

Stoney33 says...

Why cant kids play in roads? I played in roads when i was younger, and my kids do now, im quite sure the parents feel it is generally safe to do so, and its not a main road

This was an accident, accidents happen, if it wasn't kids playing, it could have been a dog running out, or large gust of wind
Why cant kids play in roads? I played in roads when i was younger, and my kids do now, im quite sure the parents feel it is generally safe to do so, and its not a main road This was an accident, accidents happen, if it wasn't kids playing, it could have been a dog running out, or large gust of wind Stoney33
  • Score: -35

12:51pm Wed 28 May 14

fredaj says...

Stoney33 wrote:
Why cant kids play in roads? I played in roads when i was younger, and my kids do now, im quite sure the parents feel it is generally safe to do so, and its not a main road

This was an accident, accidents happen, if it wasn't kids playing, it could have been a dog running out, or large gust of wind
But is wasn't a dog running out nor was it a gust of wind, instead it was two very young, unsupervised children, playing in the road.

The Argus report that Mum is upset that her children are upset but no comment is reported re her thoughts on the poor cyclist who may have lost his life due to this incident.

I add my best wishes to the cyclist and his family and hope he makes a full recovery.
[quote][p][bold]Stoney33[/bold] wrote: Why cant kids play in roads? I played in roads when i was younger, and my kids do now, im quite sure the parents feel it is generally safe to do so, and its not a main road This was an accident, accidents happen, if it wasn't kids playing, it could have been a dog running out, or large gust of wind[/p][/quote]But is wasn't a dog running out nor was it a gust of wind, instead it was two very young, unsupervised children, playing in the road. The Argus report that Mum is upset that her children are upset but no comment is reported re her thoughts on the poor cyclist who may have lost his life due to this incident. I add my best wishes to the cyclist and his family and hope he makes a full recovery. fredaj
  • Score: 27

1:45pm Wed 28 May 14

whatevernext2013 says...

babsticals wrote:
Why oh why are two small children allowed to play out on a road that us full of parked vehicles or any road for that matter? Come on some of you parents,use your common sense! The boys mother says,quote,",th
e boys saw the whole thing,and they are extremely upset by it,"of cause they will be,but why let them play in the road in the first place? If they had been looked after properly,the poor cyclist would not be fighting for his life! I hope the cyclist makes a full recovery,my thoughts go out to him and his family.
well what about the skateboarders and rollerskate freaks in there 2os and 30s doing hitching a lift on the backs of the buses around brighton ,at least the children are only 4 and 6 what excuse can be made for the adults
[quote][p][bold]babsticals[/bold] wrote: Why oh why are two small children allowed to play out on a road that us full of parked vehicles or any road for that matter? Come on some of you parents,use your common sense! The boys mother says,quote,",th e boys saw the whole thing,and they are extremely upset by it,"of cause they will be,but why let them play in the road in the first place? If they had been looked after properly,the poor cyclist would not be fighting for his life! I hope the cyclist makes a full recovery,my thoughts go out to him and his family.[/p][/quote]well what about the skateboarders and rollerskate freaks in there 2os and 30s doing hitching a lift on the backs of the buses around brighton ,at least the children are only 4 and 6 what excuse can be made for the adults whatevernext2013
  • Score: -7

2:05pm Wed 28 May 14

violet jay says...

The one thing the article did get right was this was a freak accident, the other information is hear say....not fact, even down to the age of the boys. What a terrible thing for all involved. Its easy to judge from your seat at home, not even to realize that all you read is partial truth. May we all send love to this man and focus on his recovery.
The one thing the article did get right was this was a freak accident, the other information is hear say....not fact, even down to the age of the boys. What a terrible thing for all involved. Its easy to judge from your seat at home, not even to realize that all you read is partial truth. May we all send love to this man and focus on his recovery. violet jay
  • Score: -1

2:08pm Wed 28 May 14

violet jay says...

fredaj wrote:
Stoney33 wrote:
Why cant kids play in roads? I played in roads when i was younger, and my kids do now, im quite sure the parents feel it is generally safe to do so, and its not a main road

This was an accident, accidents happen, if it wasn't kids playing, it could have been a dog running out, or large gust of wind
But is wasn't a dog running out nor was it a gust of wind, instead it was two very young, unsupervised children, playing in the road.

The Argus report that Mum is upset that her children are upset but no comment is reported re her thoughts on the poor cyclist who may have lost his life due to this incident.

I add my best wishes to the cyclist and his family and hope he makes a full recovery.
fredaj: you shouldn't believe all you read in the paper, nor should you comment on things you do not know about first hand..............th
e newspaper article is inaccurate. You and the article are wrong about the cause of the accident, FACT. As you have rightly said all of our thoughts should be with the cyclist and his family and not with 'ifs buts and maybes' .............
[quote][p][bold]fredaj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stoney33[/bold] wrote: Why cant kids play in roads? I played in roads when i was younger, and my kids do now, im quite sure the parents feel it is generally safe to do so, and its not a main road This was an accident, accidents happen, if it wasn't kids playing, it could have been a dog running out, or large gust of wind[/p][/quote]But is wasn't a dog running out nor was it a gust of wind, instead it was two very young, unsupervised children, playing in the road. The Argus report that Mum is upset that her children are upset but no comment is reported re her thoughts on the poor cyclist who may have lost his life due to this incident. I add my best wishes to the cyclist and his family and hope he makes a full recovery.[/p][/quote]fredaj: you shouldn't believe all you read in the paper, nor should you comment on things you do not know about first hand..............th e newspaper article is inaccurate. You and the article are wrong about the cause of the accident, FACT. As you have rightly said all of our thoughts should be with the cyclist and his family and not with 'ifs buts and maybes' ............. violet jay
  • Score: -7

2:17pm Wed 28 May 14

violet jay says...

Euly wrote:
My mother lives down there are small boys are always whizzing up and down in the road or on the pavement on scateboards. Typical Lewes dippy hippy parents allowing their kids to "express themselves". I have found these kids charging up and down the road with no awareness of cars or pedestrians. I hope the poor man makes a recovery and the parents of said kids learn to control their children.
perhaps you could define 'control' here please?
[quote][p][bold]Euly[/bold] wrote: My mother lives down there are small boys are always whizzing up and down in the road or on the pavement on scateboards. Typical Lewes dippy hippy parents allowing their kids to "express themselves". I have found these kids charging up and down the road with no awareness of cars or pedestrians. I hope the poor man makes a recovery and the parents of said kids learn to control their children.[/p][/quote]perhaps you could define 'control' here please? violet jay
  • Score: -18

2:21pm Wed 28 May 14

Mr chock says...

lindaf wrote:
Children age 4&6 playing in the road on skateboards??? Are you kidding me??? I hope the poor man makes a full recovery and the police give the parents a good talking to.
well i was 4 once and playing out in the street is a fun place to be .. skateboards was not really popular back then but wow we have many a fun day playing in the street.. LETS HOPE kids can continue to be kids and the roads are not just for cars and bikes and trucks and ETC etc.. kids kicking about footballs is all good healthy fun ..
[quote][p][bold]lindaf[/bold] wrote: Children age 4&6 playing in the road on skateboards??? Are you kidding me??? I hope the poor man makes a full recovery and the police give the parents a good talking to.[/p][/quote]well i was 4 once and playing out in the street is a fun place to be .. skateboards was not really popular back then but wow we have many a fun day playing in the street.. LETS HOPE kids can continue to be kids and the roads are not just for cars and bikes and trucks and ETC etc.. kids kicking about footballs is all good healthy fun .. Mr chock
  • Score: -19

3:04pm Wed 28 May 14

melee says...

If your kids want to kick footballs about get off your backside and take them to one of the many parks and playing fields. Playing ball in the road is dangerous and can cause damage to other peoples' property. There would be fewer accidents if children were taught to treat the roads with respect instead of using them as a playground.
As for such young children skateboarding in the road unsupervised, it's unbelievable really. Lucky for them the poor cyclist was able to take evasive action at great cost to himself, a larger vehicle might not have been able to do so.

May I ask why the road has been described as a cut-through for cyclists when elsewhere someone states that a member of the pub staff had to stop traffic coming through until the police arrived? I don't know this area but it's either a road or it isn't. The implication is that the cyclist was somehow at fault for being there but it sounds as if it was open to traffic anyway.
If your kids want to kick footballs about get off your backside and take them to one of the many parks and playing fields. Playing ball in the road is dangerous and can cause damage to other peoples' property. There would be fewer accidents if children were taught to treat the roads with respect instead of using them as a playground. As for such young children skateboarding in the road unsupervised, it's unbelievable really. Lucky for them the poor cyclist was able to take evasive action at great cost to himself, a larger vehicle might not have been able to do so. May I ask why the road has been described as a cut-through for cyclists when elsewhere someone states that a member of the pub staff had to stop traffic coming through until the police arrived? I don't know this area but it's either a road or it isn't. The implication is that the cyclist was somehow at fault for being there but it sounds as if it was open to traffic anyway. melee
  • Score: 15

3:31pm Wed 28 May 14

babsticals says...

Stoney33 wrote:
Why cant kids play in roads? I played in roads when i was younger, and my kids do now, im quite sure the parents feel it is generally safe to do so, and its not a main road

This was an accident, accidents happen, if it wasn't kids playing, it could have been a dog running out, or large gust of wind
I'm sure if it was your husband,father,broth
er or son fighting for his life because of kids playing in the road,you would have a different opinion ! Parksand gardens are for kids to play in,roads are for vehicles !
[quote][p][bold]Stoney33[/bold] wrote: Why cant kids play in roads? I played in roads when i was younger, and my kids do now, im quite sure the parents feel it is generally safe to do so, and its not a main road This was an accident, accidents happen, if it wasn't kids playing, it could have been a dog running out, or large gust of wind[/p][/quote]I'm sure if it was your husband,father,broth er or son fighting for his life because of kids playing in the road,you would have a different opinion ! Parksand gardens are for kids to play in,roads are for vehicles ! babsticals
  • Score: 21

3:45pm Wed 28 May 14

ARMANA says...

Cycling on the road is a very dangerous thing to do, IN 99 OUT OF A 100 incidents, the cyclist end up in hospital, so I cannot see what the big surprise is all about, they know the risks, its up to them, !!!
Cycling on the road is a very dangerous thing to do, IN 99 OUT OF A 100 incidents, the cyclist end up in hospital, so I cannot see what the big surprise is all about, they know the risks, its up to them, !!! ARMANA
  • Score: -34

3:54pm Wed 28 May 14

babsticals says...

fredaj wrote:
Stoney33 wrote:
Why cant kids play in roads? I played in roads when i was younger, and my kids do now, im quite sure the parents feel it is generally safe to do so, and its not a main road

This was an accident, accidents happen, if it wasn't kids playing, it could have been a dog running out, or large gust of wind
But is wasn't a dog running out nor was it a gust of wind, instead it was two very young, unsupervised children, playing in the road.

The Argus report that Mum is upset that her children are upset but no comment is reported re her thoughts on the poor cyclist who may have lost his life due to this incident.

I add my best wishes to the cyclist and his family and hope he makes a full recovery.
Could not agree more !
[quote][p][bold]fredaj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stoney33[/bold] wrote: Why cant kids play in roads? I played in roads when i was younger, and my kids do now, im quite sure the parents feel it is generally safe to do so, and its not a main road This was an accident, accidents happen, if it wasn't kids playing, it could have been a dog running out, or large gust of wind[/p][/quote]But is wasn't a dog running out nor was it a gust of wind, instead it was two very young, unsupervised children, playing in the road. The Argus report that Mum is upset that her children are upset but no comment is reported re her thoughts on the poor cyclist who may have lost his life due to this incident. I add my best wishes to the cyclist and his family and hope he makes a full recovery.[/p][/quote]Could not agree more ! babsticals
  • Score: 16

3:54pm Wed 28 May 14

lindaf says...

Mr chock wrote:
lindaf wrote:
Children age 4&6 playing in the road on skateboards??? Are you kidding me??? I hope the poor man makes a full recovery and the police give the parents a good talking to.
well i was 4 once and playing out in the street is a fun place to be .. skateboards was not really popular back then but wow we have many a fun day playing in the street.. LETS HOPE kids can continue to be kids and the roads are not just for cars and bikes and trucks and ETC etc.. kids kicking about footballs is all good healthy fun ..
But roads ARE for cars and trucks!!! Otherwise they would be called PAVEMENTS ...Doh!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lindaf[/bold] wrote: Children age 4&6 playing in the road on skateboards??? Are you kidding me??? I hope the poor man makes a full recovery and the police give the parents a good talking to.[/p][/quote]well i was 4 once and playing out in the street is a fun place to be .. skateboards was not really popular back then but wow we have many a fun day playing in the street.. LETS HOPE kids can continue to be kids and the roads are not just for cars and bikes and trucks and ETC etc.. kids kicking about footballs is all good healthy fun ..[/p][/quote]But roads ARE for cars and trucks!!! Otherwise they would be called PAVEMENTS ...Doh!!! lindaf
  • Score: 22

3:59pm Wed 28 May 14

babsticals says...

Stoney 33.... Why can't kids play in roads ?? For obvious reasons really...... It's not safe !
Stoney 33.... Why can't kids play in roads ?? For obvious reasons really...... It's not safe ! babsticals
  • Score: 20

4:03pm Wed 28 May 14

babsticals says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
babsticals wrote:
Why oh why are two small children allowed to play out on a road that us full of parked vehicles or any road for that matter? Come on some of you parents,use your common sense! The boys mother says,quote,",th

e boys saw the whole thing,and they are extremely upset by it,"of cause they will be,but why let them play in the road in the first place? If they had been looked after properly,the poor cyclist would not be fighting for his life! I hope the cyclist makes a full recovery,my thoughts go out to him and his family.
well what about the skateboarders and rollerskate freaks in there 2os and 30s doing hitching a lift on the backs of the buses around brighton ,at least the children are only 4 and 6 what excuse can be made for the adults
Exactly! The kids are ONLY 4 and 6!
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]babsticals[/bold] wrote: Why oh why are two small children allowed to play out on a road that us full of parked vehicles or any road for that matter? Come on some of you parents,use your common sense! The boys mother says,quote,",th e boys saw the whole thing,and they are extremely upset by it,"of cause they will be,but why let them play in the road in the first place? If they had been looked after properly,the poor cyclist would not be fighting for his life! I hope the cyclist makes a full recovery,my thoughts go out to him and his family.[/p][/quote]well what about the skateboarders and rollerskate freaks in there 2os and 30s doing hitching a lift on the backs of the buses around brighton ,at least the children are only 4 and 6 what excuse can be made for the adults[/p][/quote]Exactly! The kids are ONLY 4 and 6! babsticals
  • Score: 4

5:38pm Wed 28 May 14

NathanAdler says...

The mum should be prosecuted. 4 and 6 FFS. I was brought up in the 50s and I wasn't allowed out on my own until about 10 and NEVER on the road!!

Very, very bad parenting.
The mum should be prosecuted. 4 and 6 FFS. I was brought up in the 50s and I wasn't allowed out on my own until about 10 and NEVER on the road!! Very, very bad parenting. NathanAdler
  • Score: 15

5:50pm Wed 28 May 14

wippasnapper says...

I’ve just Google earthed the Snowdrop Inn in Lewes and was some what baffled to why the cyclist came off so badly unless of course the cyclist was riding his bike way to fast that he could not escape his dilemma & I mean lets be fear if cyclists took grater care and slowed down when riding through then maybe this cyclist would not have come a cropper
I’ve just Google earthed the Snowdrop Inn in Lewes and was some what baffled to why the cyclist came off so badly unless of course the cyclist was riding his bike way to fast that he could not escape his dilemma & I mean lets be fear if cyclists took grater care and slowed down when riding through then maybe this cyclist would not have come a cropper wippasnapper
  • Score: -21

6:02pm Wed 28 May 14

The Wolfie says...

Hmm.. riding at a safe speed would have allowed him to take avoiding action or stop. It's a no through road so I am sure the parents felt it was safe for their kids to play out - after all there wouldn't be much traffic.

As others have said what if it had been a stray dog or cat? What if it had been an elderly confused pedestrian?

Ride at a safe speed for actual and potential hazards and reduce the risk!

Oh! but skate boards have 4 wheels and not 2 so they must be at fault!

I'm sorry for the cyclist and his family but he has to take responsibility for his actions or lack of as the adult road user.
Hmm.. riding at a safe speed would have allowed him to take avoiding action or stop. It's a no through road so I am sure the parents felt it was safe for their kids to play out - after all there wouldn't be much traffic. As others have said what if it had been a stray dog or cat? What if it had been an elderly confused pedestrian? Ride at a safe speed for actual and potential hazards and reduce the risk! Oh! but skate boards have 4 wheels and not 2 so they must be at fault! I'm sorry for the cyclist and his family but he has to take responsibility for his actions or lack of as the adult road user. The Wolfie
  • Score: -15

6:04pm Wed 28 May 14

The Wolfie says...

lindaf wrote:
Mr chock wrote:
lindaf wrote:
Children age 4&6 playing in the road on skateboards??? Are you kidding me??? I hope the poor man makes a full recovery and the police give the parents a good talking to.
well i was 4 once and playing out in the street is a fun place to be .. skateboards was not really popular back then but wow we have many a fun day playing in the street.. LETS HOPE kids can continue to be kids and the roads are not just for cars and bikes and trucks and ETC etc.. kids kicking about footballs is all good healthy fun ..
But roads ARE for cars and trucks!!! Otherwise they would be called PAVEMENTS ...Doh!!!
Really? Maybe you should remind the CYCLISTS of that too...
[quote][p][bold]lindaf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lindaf[/bold] wrote: Children age 4&6 playing in the road on skateboards??? Are you kidding me??? I hope the poor man makes a full recovery and the police give the parents a good talking to.[/p][/quote]well i was 4 once and playing out in the street is a fun place to be .. skateboards was not really popular back then but wow we have many a fun day playing in the street.. LETS HOPE kids can continue to be kids and the roads are not just for cars and bikes and trucks and ETC etc.. kids kicking about footballs is all good healthy fun ..[/p][/quote]But roads ARE for cars and trucks!!! Otherwise they would be called PAVEMENTS ...Doh!!![/p][/quote]Really? Maybe you should remind the CYCLISTS of that too... The Wolfie
  • Score: -10

7:01pm Wed 28 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

wippasnapper wrote:
I’ve just Google earthed the Snowdrop Inn in Lewes and was some what baffled to why the cyclist came off so badly unless of course the cyclist was riding his bike way to fast that he could not escape his dilemma & I mean lets be fear if cyclists took grater care and slowed down when riding through then maybe this cyclist would not have come a cropper
How can looking at Google earth give you an insight into how this unfortunate tragedy actually happened for gods sake?!
[quote][p][bold]wippasnapper[/bold] wrote: I’ve just Google earthed the Snowdrop Inn in Lewes and was some what baffled to why the cyclist came off so badly unless of course the cyclist was riding his bike way to fast that he could not escape his dilemma & I mean lets be fear if cyclists took grater care and slowed down when riding through then maybe this cyclist would not have come a cropper[/p][/quote]How can looking at Google earth give you an insight into how this unfortunate tragedy actually happened for gods sake?! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 10

7:06pm Wed 28 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

The Wolfie wrote:
Hmm.. riding at a safe speed would have allowed him to take avoiding action or stop. It's a no through road so I am sure the parents felt it was safe for their kids to play out - after all there wouldn't be much traffic.

As others have said what if it had been a stray dog or cat? What if it had been an elderly confused pedestrian?

Ride at a safe speed for actual and potential hazards and reduce the risk!

Oh! but skate boards have 4 wheels and not 2 so they must be at fault!

I'm sorry for the cyclist and his family but he has to take responsibility for his actions or lack of as the adult road user.
Another complete tw*t who hasn't got a clue about the circumstances but feels the need to blame the cyclist!! Perhaps this meat-head wants to tell us what a 'safe speed' should be?! Then maybe tell us if that same 'safe speed' should apply to motor vehicles too?!
[quote][p][bold]The Wolfie[/bold] wrote: Hmm.. riding at a safe speed would have allowed him to take avoiding action or stop. It's a no through road so I am sure the parents felt it was safe for their kids to play out - after all there wouldn't be much traffic. As others have said what if it had been a stray dog or cat? What if it had been an elderly confused pedestrian? Ride at a safe speed for actual and potential hazards and reduce the risk! Oh! but skate boards have 4 wheels and not 2 so they must be at fault! I'm sorry for the cyclist and his family but he has to take responsibility for his actions or lack of as the adult road user.[/p][/quote]Another complete tw*t who hasn't got a clue about the circumstances but feels the need to blame the cyclist!! Perhaps this meat-head wants to tell us what a 'safe speed' should be?! Then maybe tell us if that same 'safe speed' should apply to motor vehicles too?! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 13

7:39pm Wed 28 May 14

John Steed says...

the road concerned used to be the main road out of lewes to eastbourne, it runs parallel with the tunnel but is closed by gates at the south end, No through traffic can pass along the road and traffic flow is very low with the pub being the only place atrracting visitors, many of whom walk. cyclists cannot use the tunnel so have to use south street, it is reasonable to expect pedestrians and children in this road, and most lewesians will drive down it at a low speed. on a bank holiday week end it is not as such unreasonable for children to be playing in the area bewtween the pub and the gates to the main road. maybe these two were a bit young to be unsupervised but that is a moot point,
the road concerned used to be the main road out of lewes to eastbourne, it runs parallel with the tunnel but is closed by gates at the south end, No through traffic can pass along the road and traffic flow is very low with the pub being the only place atrracting visitors, many of whom walk. cyclists cannot use the tunnel so have to use south street, it is reasonable to expect pedestrians and children in this road, and most lewesians will drive down it at a low speed. on a bank holiday week end it is not as such unreasonable for children to be playing in the area bewtween the pub and the gates to the main road. maybe these two were a bit young to be unsupervised but that is a moot point, John Steed
  • Score: 4

9:06pm Wed 28 May 14

violet jay says...

NathanAdler wrote:
The mum should be prosecuted. 4 and 6 FFS. I was brought up in the 50s and I wasn't allowed out on my own until about 10 and NEVER on the road!!

Very, very bad parenting.
the ages of the children are incorrect...........
.....also what is right for one child is not wrong for another, we are all individuals.....and to judge another parent whom you have never met is difficult. I hear that you feel this was a mistake, and to let children play outside was not how you were brought up. Please remember that all we read in the news is not all fact and that unless the reporter was their, she just might not have the whole storey.
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: The mum should be prosecuted. 4 and 6 FFS. I was brought up in the 50s and I wasn't allowed out on my own until about 10 and NEVER on the road!! Very, very bad parenting.[/p][/quote]the ages of the children are incorrect........... .....also what is right for one child is not wrong for another, we are all individuals.....and to judge another parent whom you have never met is difficult. I hear that you feel this was a mistake, and to let children play outside was not how you were brought up. Please remember that all we read in the news is not all fact and that unless the reporter was their, she just might not have the whole storey. violet jay
  • Score: -9

9:58pm Wed 28 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Another complete tw*t who hasn't got a clue about the circumstances but feels the need to blame the cyclist!! Perhaps this meat-head wants to tell us what a 'safe speed' should be?! Then maybe tell us if that same 'safe speed' should apply to motor vehicles too?!"

A safe speed it that which is applicable in the prevailing conditions.
"Another complete tw*t who hasn't got a clue about the circumstances but feels the need to blame the cyclist!! Perhaps this meat-head wants to tell us what a 'safe speed' should be?! Then maybe tell us if that same 'safe speed' should apply to motor vehicles too?!" A safe speed it that which is applicable in the prevailing conditions. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

10:35pm Wed 28 May 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

This is a very busy road and totally unsuitable for children to play out on it.

It is very narrow and there are cars parked all the way along one side.

I cannot believe any mum would allow a 4 and 6 year old out to play on this road and if they were also unsupervised she is unfit to be a mum of two kids. This needs investigating if this story is correctly reported as these kids are not being correctly brought up. They should not be out alone - not ever.
This is a very busy road and totally unsuitable for children to play out on it. It is very narrow and there are cars parked all the way along one side. I cannot believe any mum would allow a 4 and 6 year old out to play on this road and if they were also unsupervised she is unfit to be a mum of two kids. This needs investigating if this story is correctly reported as these kids are not being correctly brought up. They should not be out alone - not ever. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 5

9:31am Thu 29 May 14

Ihopenoonehasthisusername says...

I hope the parents get prosecuted for this. Kids should not be allowed to play in the road. I'm glad they are upset - they caused the accident. I wish the cyclist a speedy recovery.
I hope the parents get prosecuted for this. Kids should not be allowed to play in the road. I'm glad they are upset - they caused the accident. I wish the cyclist a speedy recovery. Ihopenoonehasthisusername
  • Score: 3

3:15am Fri 30 May 14

The Wolfie says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
The Wolfie wrote:
Hmm.. riding at a safe speed would have allowed him to take avoiding action or stop. It's a no through road so I am sure the parents felt it was safe for their kids to play out - after all there wouldn't be much traffic.

As others have said what if it had been a stray dog or cat? What if it had been an elderly confused pedestrian?

Ride at a safe speed for actual and potential hazards and reduce the risk!

Oh! but skate boards have 4 wheels and not 2 so they must be at fault!

I'm sorry for the cyclist and his family but he has to take responsibility for his actions or lack of as the adult road user.
Another complete tw*t who hasn't got a clue about the circumstances but feels the need to blame the cyclist!! Perhaps this meat-head wants to tell us what a 'safe speed' should be?! Then maybe tell us if that same 'safe speed' should apply to motor vehicles too?!
A safe speed id one where he could have taken avoiding action or STOPPED! It's called hazard perception, he clearly had none and has paid the price.

But of course a cyclist is above god and can never do anything wrong can they?

And yes it applies to motor vehicles too - but there wasn't one involved so not relevant in this case is it?

W.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Wolfie[/bold] wrote: Hmm.. riding at a safe speed would have allowed him to take avoiding action or stop. It's a no through road so I am sure the parents felt it was safe for their kids to play out - after all there wouldn't be much traffic. As others have said what if it had been a stray dog or cat? What if it had been an elderly confused pedestrian? Ride at a safe speed for actual and potential hazards and reduce the risk! Oh! but skate boards have 4 wheels and not 2 so they must be at fault! I'm sorry for the cyclist and his family but he has to take responsibility for his actions or lack of as the adult road user.[/p][/quote]Another complete tw*t who hasn't got a clue about the circumstances but feels the need to blame the cyclist!! Perhaps this meat-head wants to tell us what a 'safe speed' should be?! Then maybe tell us if that same 'safe speed' should apply to motor vehicles too?![/p][/quote]A safe speed id one where he could have taken avoiding action or STOPPED! It's called hazard perception, he clearly had none and has paid the price. But of course a cyclist is above god and can never do anything wrong can they? And yes it applies to motor vehicles too - but there wasn't one involved so not relevant in this case is it? W. The Wolfie
  • Score: 0

10:04pm Sun 1 Jun 14

eagle9 says...

Thank you all for raising the question of how to care for everyone's safe access to a public space, which feels to me to be the basis of everyone’s concerns.

As it happens, I know the article is inaccurate on many counts. Most relevant to your posts is that the children are older than stated, and that they were not in the road and the cyclist did not swerve to avoid them. A skateboard got away from one of the children playing on the pavement in front of their house. To me that makes this a tragic accident.

My thoughts go out to both families, and to the whole community affected by the accident. I have often visited this street and thought what a good thing they have going: a vibrant street and budding community of families.

I hope this accident does not come between members of this community and that we are able to come together with tolerance, respect and understanding, to ensure the public space is safe for all users. Solutions are already being sought, such as adequate signage from the Highway Agency, and more will come.

I also hope to live in a world where children are able to safely play out on their streets and not be kept indoors, or contained within only certain public spaces. If we would all like to do something in response, can I suggest we make a donation and/or inform ourselves with any of the charities below:

www.playingout.net
http://playingout.ne
t/inspiration-ideas-
and-links/10-reasons
-to-play-out/

http://www.ctc.org.u
k/

www.brake.org.uk
http://www.roadsafet
yweek.org.uk/action-
pack/518-look-out-fo
r-each-other
Thank you all for raising the question of how to care for everyone's safe access to a public space, which feels to me to be the basis of everyone’s concerns. As it happens, I know the article is inaccurate on many counts. Most relevant to your posts is that the children are older than stated, and that they were not in the road and the cyclist did not swerve to avoid them. A skateboard got away from one of the children playing on the pavement in front of their house. To me that makes this a tragic accident. My thoughts go out to both families, and to the whole community affected by the accident. I have often visited this street and thought what a good thing they have going: a vibrant street and budding community of families. I hope this accident does not come between members of this community and that we are able to come together with tolerance, respect and understanding, to ensure the public space is safe for all users. Solutions are already being sought, such as adequate signage from the Highway Agency, and more will come. I also hope to live in a world where children are able to safely play out on their streets and not be kept indoors, or contained within only certain public spaces. If we would all like to do something in response, can I suggest we make a donation and/or inform ourselves with any of the charities below: www.playingout.net http://playingout.ne t/inspiration-ideas- and-links/10-reasons -to-play-out/ http://www.ctc.org.u k/ www.brake.org.uk http://www.roadsafet yweek.org.uk/action- pack/518-look-out-fo r-each-other eagle9
  • Score: -1

Comments are closed on this article.

click2find

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree