Your Interview: Keith Taylor, Green MEP for the South East

Keith Taylor MEP

The European Parliament in Strasbourg

First published in News

Keith Taylor is a newly re-elected MEP who will continue to serve South East England following the European Election results on Sunday.

The Green Party politician was previously a councillor for Brighton and Hove City Council.

IAN TAYLOR by email: Whilst not a ‘natural’ Green Party supporter I can understand what you are trying to achieve for the long-term benefit of Brighton and Hove. However, I feel that the party isn’t getting its message across effectively to the local electorate – would you agree?

Keith Taylor (KT): You’re absolutely right to note that Green councillors are working for Brighton’s long-term benefit. That’s why we’ve been investing in measures to cut pollution and promote sustainable transport. It’s also why we’re doing all we can to narrow the gap between the highest and lowest paid in the city, to make it a fairer place to live.

In politics it is always hard to get your message across. In Brighton we’ve faced a Labour Party intent on undermining us at every possible opportunity. But despite this I think we should take your view on board and do all we can to improve the ways we communicate to the electorate.

BEN ASHBECK by email: I have no idea what you do in the European Parliament. What are you going to do to make sure I know what you are voting for on my behalf?

KT: Part of the job of an MEP is to inform their constituents on what actually happens in Brussels. I am hoping to keep you up to date by producing a newsletter at least twice a year and by sending out e-updates every couple of months.

Just head to www.keithtaylormep.org.uk to sign up to the newsletter.

AFTERVOID online: What do you intend to do about the failure of vision, the failure of competency, the failure of responsibility and the failure to understand the meaning of democracy that the Green Party has carried out in Brighton since being elected?

KT: I have to say I really don’t agree with your analysis of the situation in Brighton. We’ve certainly had some trying times but, with a huge chunk of our manifesto commitments fulfilled, the Greens have done a great job.

SIMON SHEPPHERD by email: There have been repeated accusations that UKIP is racist. What is the party really about?

KT: Though I wouldn’t say that every UKIP member or voter is racist I do worry about the dangerous tone set by the party leadership.

They tend to blame all of the problems in the UK on migrants, while ignoring those who really have responsibility for the challenges we face. I also worry that UKIP MEPs are going to absolutely fail to stand up for their constituents (their previous records shows them to be some of the laziest MEPs).

FLORA ROBINSON by phone: Do you really have a hope of winning more MP seats in the General Election? Are people really just using European and local council votes as a protest?

KT: The Green Party is certainly growing. At the local elections we saw people elected all over the country and we became the official opposition on a number of councils. We do tend to fare better in proportional elections but Caroline’s election was a real breakthrough for us that we intend to replicate in a number of places across England over the coming years.

DAVID LOPEZ by phone: In your view what is the worst-case scenario if the sceptics get their way and we withdraw from the EU?

KT: My biggest worry about leaving the EU is that our environment, from our rivers to our beaches, will be left unguarded. As things stand, about 80% of our environmental laws come from Brussels, and without them I fear the worst.

MAT JENKINS by email: When are you going to collect my recycling? It was last collected two to three weeks ago and before that perhaps more than a month. Everyone on our street is confused, often the whole road is littered with recycling from bins that have been left out.

KT: This is, of course, an issue for the council. I’m not sure where your street is but I suggest you speak to your local councillor and they will help you out as soon as possible.

ZeeGee online: You claim to favour community adhesion whilst ignoring the fact that mass immigration, something the Greens are in favour of, have not only destroyed centuries-old communities but have created ghettos. It has also led to increased levels of pollution, which contradicts neatly your aim to reduce them.

So my question is how do you intend to square your “We should not tolerate the long-term presence of large numbers of people whose immigration status is not defined” with your intention to give them an amnesty, in your “We would open up ways for existing illegal migrants who have been here for three years to become legal. In particular, a legal status must be provided for people who have not succeeded in their claim for humanitarian protection but who cannot be returned to their country of origin due to the political situation there”.

KT: Greens believe in an immigration system that treats everybody with dignity and respect. We celebrate multiculturalism and tolerance in our society because we think a diverse society is a rich one.

Sandra Dyke by email: Can the Green party grow enough to offer a genuine alternative for left wing voters at the General Election next year? If so, how? Are you now taking the Lib Dem vote?

KT: The Green Party is growing and certainly does offer a genuine alternative to business as usual. We’re going to continue to focus on policies which people support but the other parties refuse to back. For example we’re against tuition fees, for a publicly owned railway and for progressive taxation to narrow the gap between rich and poor.

At the last election we beat the Lib Dems almost everywhere in the UK (including my own constituency) and we expect to do well again in the General Election as voters keep seeking radical solutions to the problems we face.

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7:45pm Fri 30 May 14

Mr chock says...

wow . who is going to read that interview .. ?
no one commented on it.. we can but we cant comment on the travelers wrecking the public spaces in and around brighton Preston park is like some "white van " festival i counted 42 caravans and lost count of the cars and vans coming and going not a single parking warden issuing tickets
wow . who is going to read that interview .. ? no one commented on it.. we can but we cant comment on the travelers wrecking the public spaces in and around brighton Preston park is like some "white van " festival i counted 42 caravans and lost count of the cars and vans coming and going not a single parking warden issuing tickets Mr chock
  • Score: 11

7:57pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Greens believe in an immigration system that treats everybody with dignity and respect. We celebrate multiculturalism and tolerance in our society because we think a diverse society is a rich one. "

How does that answer my question????

Pathetic!!
"Greens believe in an immigration system that treats everybody with dignity and respect. We celebrate multiculturalism and tolerance in our society because we think a diverse society is a rich one. " How does that answer my question???? Pathetic!! ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 9

8:23pm Fri 30 May 14

pachallis says...

Looks like Keith Taylor either just answered the questions he wanted to, or The Argus didn't ask him the tricky ones unless it upset him. Either way a pretty abysmal interview!
Looks like Keith Taylor either just answered the questions he wanted to, or The Argus didn't ask him the tricky ones unless it upset him. Either way a pretty abysmal interview! pachallis
  • Score: 6

8:31pm Fri 30 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

pachallis wrote:
Looks like Keith Taylor either just answered the questions he wanted to, or The Argus didn't ask him the tricky ones unless it upset him. Either way a pretty abysmal interview!
Actually it looks like the apathetic B+H electorate didn't bother to quiz him!
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: Looks like Keith Taylor either just answered the questions he wanted to, or The Argus didn't ask him the tricky ones unless it upset him. Either way a pretty abysmal interview![/p][/quote]Actually it looks like the apathetic B+H electorate didn't bother to quiz him! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -5

8:33pm Fri 30 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
"Greens believe in an immigration system that treats everybody with dignity and respect. We celebrate multiculturalism and tolerance in our society because we think a diverse society is a rich one. "

How does that answer my question????

Pathetic!!
Perhaps you are not bright enough to realise that you answered your own question!
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "Greens believe in an immigration system that treats everybody with dignity and respect. We celebrate multiculturalism and tolerance in our society because we think a diverse society is a rich one. " How does that answer my question???? Pathetic!![/p][/quote]Perhaps you are not bright enough to realise that you answered your own question! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -7

11:06pm Fri 30 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl
y representative of the city.
Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.
The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl y representative of the city. Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 2

2:47am Sat 31 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"There was no "flood" though, this country has seen a steady stream of immigrants since the 50s. Irish, Caribbean, Pakistani/Indian, Canadian/Australian and then Polish/Eastern European. "

For the terminally stupid (including and especially the moronic Brighton bluenose) my question asked how the Greens were going to reconcile two opposing goals.

Here's the response from Fatty Taylor:

"Greens believe in an immigration system that treats everybody with dignity and respect. We celebrate multiculturalism and tolerance in our society because we think a diverse society is a rich one. "

If Fatty or anyone else among the moronic fraternity (including and especially brighton bluetwat) can point out how that answered my question, they are free to do so.
"There was no "flood" though, this country has seen a steady stream of immigrants since the 50s. Irish, Caribbean, Pakistani/Indian, Canadian/Australian and then Polish/Eastern European. " For the terminally stupid (including and especially the moronic Brighton bluenose) my question asked how the Greens were going to reconcile two opposing goals. Here's the response from Fatty Taylor: "Greens believe in an immigration system that treats everybody with dignity and respect. We celebrate multiculturalism and tolerance in our society because we think a diverse society is a rich one. " If Fatty or anyone else among the moronic fraternity (including and especially brighton bluetwat) can point out how that answered my question, they are free to do so. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:48am Sat 31 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Perhaps you are not bright enough to realise that you answered your own question!"

For the terminally stupid (including and especially the moronic Brighton bluenose) my question asked how the Greens were going to reconcile two opposing goals.

Here's the response from Fatty Taylor:

"Greens believe in an immigration system that treats everybody with dignity and respect. We celebrate multiculturalism and tolerance in our society because we think a diverse society is a rich one. "

If Fatty or anyone else among the moronic fraternity (including and especially brighton bluetwat) can point out how that answered my question, they are free to do so.
"Perhaps you are not bright enough to realise that you answered your own question!" For the terminally stupid (including and especially the moronic Brighton bluenose) my question asked how the Greens were going to reconcile two opposing goals. Here's the response from Fatty Taylor: "Greens believe in an immigration system that treats everybody with dignity and respect. We celebrate multiculturalism and tolerance in our society because we think a diverse society is a rich one. " If Fatty or anyone else among the moronic fraternity (including and especially brighton bluetwat) can point out how that answered my question, they are free to do so. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

6:06am Sat 31 May 14

Quiterie says...

FFS. I asked 2 very sensible questions about inequality and air travel and they get superseded by some guy asking an MEP when his recycling is going to be collected. This just confirms to me that the Argus is packed with clueless journalists who don't know what they're doing. Badly done Argus. Badly done.
FFS. I asked 2 very sensible questions about inequality and air travel and they get superseded by some guy asking an MEP when his recycling is going to be collected. This just confirms to me that the Argus is packed with clueless journalists who don't know what they're doing. Badly done Argus. Badly done. Quiterie
  • Score: 6

7:14am Sat 31 May 14

Eugenius says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl

y representative of the city.
Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.
Not true - our core membership demographic tends to be low income but educated. Not students so much. Commonly principled people working in the public or voluntary sector in jobs which are not highly paid.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl y representative of the city. Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.[/p][/quote]Not true - our core membership demographic tends to be low income but educated. Not students so much. Commonly principled people working in the public or voluntary sector in jobs which are not highly paid. Eugenius
  • Score: -2

7:35am Sat 31 May 14

Quiterie says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
pachallis wrote:
Looks like Keith Taylor either just answered the questions he wanted to, or The Argus didn't ask him the tricky ones unless it upset him. Either way a pretty abysmal interview!
Actually it looks like the apathetic B+H electorate didn't bother to quiz him!
If you look back at the original article requesting questions there are some excellent questions in the comments which weren't asked. Instead The Argus chose to ask when someone's recycling was going to be collected and what UKIP stand for. Either The Argus don't know how to prioritise questions or Taylor refused to answer the tougher questions.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: Looks like Keith Taylor either just answered the questions he wanted to, or The Argus didn't ask him the tricky ones unless it upset him. Either way a pretty abysmal interview![/p][/quote]Actually it looks like the apathetic B+H electorate didn't bother to quiz him![/p][/quote]If you look back at the original article requesting questions there are some excellent questions in the comments which weren't asked. Instead The Argus chose to ask when someone's recycling was going to be collected and what UKIP stand for. Either The Argus don't know how to prioritise questions or Taylor refused to answer the tougher questions. Quiterie
  • Score: 6

8:40am Sat 31 May 14

pachallis says...

Eugenius wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl


y representative of the city.
Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.
Not true - our core membership demographic tends to be low income but educated. Not students so much. Commonly principled people working in the public or voluntary sector in jobs which are not highly paid.
@Eugenius - you just can't stop spinning, can you?

When you lost the Hanover council seat the outgoing green councillor blamed it on the election being called when the students were on holiday.

When you say 'low income but educated' do you really mean 'left wing activist'?

Or the residents who thought they were voting for a pro-environment party and then found out it was a front for the loony-left.

Please explain how you determine your membership demographic?

And what has membership got to do with actual votes, How many votes did the greens get and how many official members do you have in the city?
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl y representative of the city. Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.[/p][/quote]Not true - our core membership demographic tends to be low income but educated. Not students so much. Commonly principled people working in the public or voluntary sector in jobs which are not highly paid.[/p][/quote]@Eugenius - you just can't stop spinning, can you? When you lost the Hanover council seat the outgoing green councillor blamed it on the election being called when the students were on holiday. When you say 'low income but educated' do you really mean 'left wing activist'? Or the residents who thought they were voting for a pro-environment party and then found out it was a front for the loony-left. Please explain how you determine your membership demographic? And what has membership got to do with actual votes, How many votes did the greens get and how many official members do you have in the city? pachallis
  • Score: 5

8:47am Sat 31 May 14

pachallis says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl

y representative of the city.
Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.
@Maxwell's Ghost - I agree - I think you'll find your demographic represents the sanitised public face of the green party. It omits the green-left that hide in the shadows and really pull the strings,
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl y representative of the city. Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.[/p][/quote]@Maxwell's Ghost - I agree - I think you'll find your demographic represents the sanitised public face of the green party. It omits the green-left that hide in the shadows and really pull the strings, pachallis
  • Score: 3

8:52am Sat 31 May 14

Eugenius says...

pachallis wrote:
Eugenius wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl



y representative of the city.
Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.
Not true - our core membership demographic tends to be low income but educated. Not students so much. Commonly principled people working in the public or voluntary sector in jobs which are not highly paid.
@Eugenius - you just can't stop spinning, can you?

When you lost the Hanover council seat the outgoing green councillor blamed it on the election being called when the students were on holiday.

When you say 'low income but educated' do you really mean 'left wing activist'?

Or the residents who thought they were voting for a pro-environment party and then found out it was a front for the loony-left.

Please explain how you determine your membership demographic?

And what has membership got to do with actual votes, How many votes did the greens get and how many official members do you have in the city?
An equality and diversity survey was conducted last year: http://liberalconspi
racy.org/2013/06/03/
think-the-greens-are
-the-party-of-the-mi
ddle-class-think-aga
in/

This was the national picture but I recognise the same profile in the local party membership here.

I don't dispute that we have a pretty low proportion of blue collar workers and our low level of Black and Minority Ethnic representation is especially disappointing - there are sessions on what more we can do to improve this every conference. We do have a high proportion of women in the party at least.
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl y representative of the city. Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.[/p][/quote]Not true - our core membership demographic tends to be low income but educated. Not students so much. Commonly principled people working in the public or voluntary sector in jobs which are not highly paid.[/p][/quote]@Eugenius - you just can't stop spinning, can you? When you lost the Hanover council seat the outgoing green councillor blamed it on the election being called when the students were on holiday. When you say 'low income but educated' do you really mean 'left wing activist'? Or the residents who thought they were voting for a pro-environment party and then found out it was a front for the loony-left. Please explain how you determine your membership demographic? And what has membership got to do with actual votes, How many votes did the greens get and how many official members do you have in the city?[/p][/quote]An equality and diversity survey was conducted last year: http://liberalconspi racy.org/2013/06/03/ think-the-greens-are -the-party-of-the-mi ddle-class-think-aga in/ This was the national picture but I recognise the same profile in the local party membership here. I don't dispute that we have a pretty low proportion of blue collar workers and our low level of Black and Minority Ethnic representation is especially disappointing - there are sessions on what more we can do to improve this every conference. We do have a high proportion of women in the party at least. Eugenius
  • Score: -4

9:05am Sat 31 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week.
The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services.
I think most residents are ready for change now.
Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week. The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services. I think most residents are ready for change now. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 2

9:11am Sat 31 May 14

Eugenius says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week.
The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services.
I think most residents are ready for change now.
Green Party is anti vol au vents.

In the 2011 budget, a Green motion to save £26,000 by removing all catering including drinks at all council meetings was defeated by Labour and the Tories. - See more at: http://www.brightona
ndhovenews.org/2011/
03/03/brighton-and-h
ove-council-tax-cut-
outvoted/6013#sthash
.hul6WNVt.dpuf
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week. The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services. I think most residents are ready for change now.[/p][/quote]Green Party is anti vol au vents. In the 2011 budget, a Green motion to save £26,000 by removing all catering including drinks at all council meetings was defeated by Labour and the Tories. - See more at: http://www.brightona ndhovenews.org/2011/ 03/03/brighton-and-h ove-council-tax-cut- outvoted/6013#sthash .hul6WNVt.dpuf Eugenius
  • Score: 2

9:13am Sat 31 May 14

HJarrs says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week.
The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services.
I think most residents are ready for change now.
What have you got against women Maxwell? Did you know some women have well paid jobs now?
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week. The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services. I think most residents are ready for change now.[/p][/quote]What have you got against women Maxwell? Did you know some women have well paid jobs now? HJarrs
  • Score: 2

9:19am Sat 31 May 14

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week.
The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services.
I think most residents are ready for change now.
What have you got against women Maxwell? Did you know some women have well paid jobs now?
Typical Clouseau response - can't answer the allegation - can't respond with facts - has to resort to making it appear the original poster is anti-feminist! Or how about your usual 'petrol-head' of 'UKIP voter' taunts?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week. The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services. I think most residents are ready for change now.[/p][/quote]What have you got against women Maxwell? Did you know some women have well paid jobs now?[/p][/quote]Typical Clouseau response - can't answer the allegation - can't respond with facts - has to resort to making it appear the original poster is anti-feminist! Or how about your usual 'petrol-head' of 'UKIP voter' taunts? pachallis
  • Score: 4

10:10am Sat 31 May 14

HJarrs says...

pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week.
The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services.
I think most residents are ready for change now.
What have you got against women Maxwell? Did you know some women have well paid jobs now?
Typical Clouseau response - can't answer the allegation - can't respond with facts - has to resort to making it appear the original poster is anti-feminist! Or how about your usual 'petrol-head' of 'UKIP voter' taunts?
Making yourself look stupid there Patchy.
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week. The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services. I think most residents are ready for change now.[/p][/quote]What have you got against women Maxwell? Did you know some women have well paid jobs now?[/p][/quote]Typical Clouseau response - can't answer the allegation - can't respond with facts - has to resort to making it appear the original poster is anti-feminist! Or how about your usual 'petrol-head' of 'UKIP voter' taunts?[/p][/quote]Making yourself look stupid there Patchy. HJarrs
  • Score: -5

10:44am Sat 31 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Actually I believe women and children in the city have probably fared worse than anyone under this council and my wife who works in a very well paid job says women with kids she works with loathe your party. Women have the majority of care responsibilities and in a city where kids are scattered across schools and where mums have to work running around at brake neck speed trying to look after kids and elderly relatives all over the city your policies are punishing them and you will lose their vote.
You have made it harder for women to support their families all you see are the silly old boys Davey and Randall telling them to cycle and shoving up parking prices so doing their 20 chores a day becomes hard. Picking a parcel up from the post office even becomes a £4.60 bus fare which takes an hour and a half or an hour long cycle, although there are no cycle racks.
My missus says you are an old boys club which doesn't give a toss about women or families and she says her female colleagues say the same. She says your old boys expect nurses to get 2 buses home after a 12 hour night shift finishes and then get another bus to take the kids to two different schools before 9am and them grab six hours sleep before collecting the kids and getting the the on the table before another night shift.
These old boys are so out of touch with ordinary people. Most are worried about getting time off work for their mums hospital appointment, taking the kids to the dentist and having time to drop the kids at rugby practice not Eco light bulbs and green deals. You seem to meander about visiting local butchers and pushing kids up elm grove in a pram. You post on here all day so you must be in benefits or have a wealthy wife as you are so time rich you haven't got a clue about real lives anymore.
And if women want to get their kit off for page 3 to fund their families then let them. Caroline Lucas has no right to stop women having a freedom of choice to work in roles they want. It's probably easier and better paid than working for Cityclean.
Actually I believe women and children in the city have probably fared worse than anyone under this council and my wife who works in a very well paid job says women with kids she works with loathe your party. Women have the majority of care responsibilities and in a city where kids are scattered across schools and where mums have to work running around at brake neck speed trying to look after kids and elderly relatives all over the city your policies are punishing them and you will lose their vote. You have made it harder for women to support their families all you see are the silly old boys Davey and Randall telling them to cycle and shoving up parking prices so doing their 20 chores a day becomes hard. Picking a parcel up from the post office even becomes a £4.60 bus fare which takes an hour and a half or an hour long cycle, although there are no cycle racks. My missus says you are an old boys club which doesn't give a toss about women or families and she says her female colleagues say the same. She says your old boys expect nurses to get 2 buses home after a 12 hour night shift finishes and then get another bus to take the kids to two different schools before 9am and them grab six hours sleep before collecting the kids and getting the the on the table before another night shift. These old boys are so out of touch with ordinary people. Most are worried about getting time off work for their mums hospital appointment, taking the kids to the dentist and having time to drop the kids at rugby practice not Eco light bulbs and green deals. You seem to meander about visiting local butchers and pushing kids up elm grove in a pram. You post on here all day so you must be in benefits or have a wealthy wife as you are so time rich you haven't got a clue about real lives anymore. And if women want to get their kit off for page 3 to fund their families then let them. Caroline Lucas has no right to stop women having a freedom of choice to work in roles they want. It's probably easier and better paid than working for Cityclean. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 0

10:59am Sat 31 May 14

Eugenius says...

Parking prices have been frozen for two years running. Is another party promising to cut parking prices? No, I didn't think so.

Female workers stand to have benefited more from the living wage which the Greens introduced at the council and have encouraged in the private sector. Also remember that bin strike last year? That was over allowances being equalised so that groups of mostly female workers now receive equal allowances as bin men, and more than before instead of a lesser sum.
A women workers' forum at the council has been set up to give women a stronger voice. Children from low-income families entitled to free school travel are now given a key card that grants them free travel around the city at all times, saving hard-up families money.
Parking prices have been frozen for two years running. Is another party promising to cut parking prices? No, I didn't think so. Female workers stand to have benefited more from the living wage which the Greens introduced at the council and have encouraged in the private sector. Also remember that bin strike last year? That was over allowances being equalised so that groups of mostly female workers now receive equal allowances as bin men, and more than before instead of a lesser sum. A women workers' forum at the council has been set up to give women a stronger voice. Children from low-income families entitled to free school travel are now given a key card that grants them free travel around the city at all times, saving hard-up families money. Eugenius
  • Score: -1

11:48am Sat 31 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

As most women are in low pay I am sure it hasn't kept up with the 11 per cent rise in bus fares and the rise in council tax and parking fees.
You have to get into the real world Eurgenius. Something has gone desperately wrong with the Greens connection to the people.
As most women are in low pay I am sure it hasn't kept up with the 11 per cent rise in bus fares and the rise in council tax and parking fees. You have to get into the real world Eurgenius. Something has gone desperately wrong with the Greens connection to the people. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 1

3:09pm Sat 31 May 14

HJarrs says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Actually I believe women and children in the city have probably fared worse than anyone under this council and my wife who works in a very well paid job says women with kids she works with loathe your party. Women have the majority of care responsibilities and in a city where kids are scattered across schools and where mums have to work running around at brake neck speed trying to look after kids and elderly relatives all over the city your policies are punishing them and you will lose their vote.
You have made it harder for women to support their families all you see are the silly old boys Davey and Randall telling them to cycle and shoving up parking prices so doing their 20 chores a day becomes hard. Picking a parcel up from the post office even becomes a £4.60 bus fare which takes an hour and a half or an hour long cycle, although there are no cycle racks.
My missus says you are an old boys club which doesn't give a toss about women or families and she says her female colleagues say the same. She says your old boys expect nurses to get 2 buses home after a 12 hour night shift finishes and then get another bus to take the kids to two different schools before 9am and them grab six hours sleep before collecting the kids and getting the the on the table before another night shift.
These old boys are so out of touch with ordinary people. Most are worried about getting time off work for their mums hospital appointment, taking the kids to the dentist and having time to drop the kids at rugby practice not Eco light bulbs and green deals. You seem to meander about visiting local butchers and pushing kids up elm grove in a pram. You post on here all day so you must be in benefits or have a wealthy wife as you are so time rich you haven't got a clue about real lives anymore.
And if women want to get their kit off for page 3 to fund their families then let them. Caroline Lucas has no right to stop women having a freedom of choice to work in roles they want. It's probably easier and better paid than working for Cityclean.
Your partner's views are all very interesting, but irrelevant to the point I made about YOUR attitude to women.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Actually I believe women and children in the city have probably fared worse than anyone under this council and my wife who works in a very well paid job says women with kids she works with loathe your party. Women have the majority of care responsibilities and in a city where kids are scattered across schools and where mums have to work running around at brake neck speed trying to look after kids and elderly relatives all over the city your policies are punishing them and you will lose their vote. You have made it harder for women to support their families all you see are the silly old boys Davey and Randall telling them to cycle and shoving up parking prices so doing their 20 chores a day becomes hard. Picking a parcel up from the post office even becomes a £4.60 bus fare which takes an hour and a half or an hour long cycle, although there are no cycle racks. My missus says you are an old boys club which doesn't give a toss about women or families and she says her female colleagues say the same. She says your old boys expect nurses to get 2 buses home after a 12 hour night shift finishes and then get another bus to take the kids to two different schools before 9am and them grab six hours sleep before collecting the kids and getting the the on the table before another night shift. These old boys are so out of touch with ordinary people. Most are worried about getting time off work for their mums hospital appointment, taking the kids to the dentist and having time to drop the kids at rugby practice not Eco light bulbs and green deals. You seem to meander about visiting local butchers and pushing kids up elm grove in a pram. You post on here all day so you must be in benefits or have a wealthy wife as you are so time rich you haven't got a clue about real lives anymore. And if women want to get their kit off for page 3 to fund their families then let them. Caroline Lucas has no right to stop women having a freedom of choice to work in roles they want. It's probably easier and better paid than working for Cityclean.[/p][/quote]Your partner's views are all very interesting, but irrelevant to the point I made about YOUR attitude to women. HJarrs
  • Score: 0

3:42pm Sat 31 May 14

Gribbet says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Actually I believe women and children in the city have probably fared worse than anyone under this council and my wife who works in a very well paid job says women with kids she works with loathe your party. Women have the majority of care responsibilities and in a city where kids are scattered across schools and where mums have to work running around at brake neck speed trying to look after kids and elderly relatives all over the city your policies are punishing them and you will lose their vote.
You have made it harder for women to support their families all you see are the silly old boys Davey and Randall telling them to cycle and shoving up parking prices so doing their 20 chores a day becomes hard. Picking a parcel up from the post office even becomes a £4.60 bus fare which takes an hour and a half or an hour long cycle, although there are no cycle racks.
My missus says you are an old boys club which doesn't give a toss about women or families and she says her female colleagues say the same. She says your old boys expect nurses to get 2 buses home after a 12 hour night shift finishes and then get another bus to take the kids to two different schools before 9am and them grab six hours sleep before collecting the kids and getting the the on the table before another night shift.
These old boys are so out of touch with ordinary people. Most are worried about getting time off work for their mums hospital appointment, taking the kids to the dentist and having time to drop the kids at rugby practice not Eco light bulbs and green deals. You seem to meander about visiting local butchers and pushing kids up elm grove in a pram. You post on here all day so you must be in benefits or have a wealthy wife as you are so time rich you haven't got a clue about real lives anymore.
And if women want to get their kit off for page 3 to fund their families then let them. Caroline Lucas has no right to stop women having a freedom of choice to work in roles they want. It's probably easier and better paid than working for Cityclean.
I'm sure your wife has definitely fared worse under this council, but only from hearing your constant obsessive whinging about dustbins and the Lewes Road cycle lane. From your comment above it also sounds like you should probably help out a bit more with the daily chores.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Actually I believe women and children in the city have probably fared worse than anyone under this council and my wife who works in a very well paid job says women with kids she works with loathe your party. Women have the majority of care responsibilities and in a city where kids are scattered across schools and where mums have to work running around at brake neck speed trying to look after kids and elderly relatives all over the city your policies are punishing them and you will lose their vote. You have made it harder for women to support their families all you see are the silly old boys Davey and Randall telling them to cycle and shoving up parking prices so doing their 20 chores a day becomes hard. Picking a parcel up from the post office even becomes a £4.60 bus fare which takes an hour and a half or an hour long cycle, although there are no cycle racks. My missus says you are an old boys club which doesn't give a toss about women or families and she says her female colleagues say the same. She says your old boys expect nurses to get 2 buses home after a 12 hour night shift finishes and then get another bus to take the kids to two different schools before 9am and them grab six hours sleep before collecting the kids and getting the the on the table before another night shift. These old boys are so out of touch with ordinary people. Most are worried about getting time off work for their mums hospital appointment, taking the kids to the dentist and having time to drop the kids at rugby practice not Eco light bulbs and green deals. You seem to meander about visiting local butchers and pushing kids up elm grove in a pram. You post on here all day so you must be in benefits or have a wealthy wife as you are so time rich you haven't got a clue about real lives anymore. And if women want to get their kit off for page 3 to fund their families then let them. Caroline Lucas has no right to stop women having a freedom of choice to work in roles they want. It's probably easier and better paid than working for Cityclean.[/p][/quote]I'm sure your wife has definitely fared worse under this council, but only from hearing your constant obsessive whinging about dustbins and the Lewes Road cycle lane. From your comment above it also sounds like you should probably help out a bit more with the daily chores. Gribbet
  • Score: 2

7:11pm Sat 31 May 14

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week.
The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services.
I think most residents are ready for change now.
What have you got against women Maxwell? Did you know some women have well paid jobs now?
Typical Clouseau response - can't answer the allegation - can't respond with facts - has to resort to making it appear the original poster is anti-feminist! Or how about your usual 'petrol-head' of 'UKIP voter' taunts?
Making yourself look stupid there Patchy.
Clouseau - sour grapes because your illustrious MEP couldn't be bothered to answer your sycophantic questions?

I guess he must have a pretty low view of you as well the rest of us.

The other parties are really lucky to have someone of your 'calibre' as a green party fanboy!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week. The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services. I think most residents are ready for change now.[/p][/quote]What have you got against women Maxwell? Did you know some women have well paid jobs now?[/p][/quote]Typical Clouseau response - can't answer the allegation - can't respond with facts - has to resort to making it appear the original poster is anti-feminist! Or how about your usual 'petrol-head' of 'UKIP voter' taunts?[/p][/quote]Making yourself look stupid there Patchy.[/p][/quote]Clouseau - sour grapes because your illustrious MEP couldn't be bothered to answer your sycophantic questions? I guess he must have a pretty low view of you as well the rest of us. The other parties are really lucky to have someone of your 'calibre' as a green party fanboy! pachallis
  • Score: 0

9:26pm Sat 31 May 14

afterovid says...

Keith taylor responded to my assessment of the Green Party with " they have done a great job" ........ who are you kidding?
Keith taylor responded to my assessment of the Green Party with " they have done a great job" ........ who are you kidding? afterovid
  • Score: 1

10:11pm Sat 31 May 14

Roundbill says...

Eugenius wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl


y representative of the city.
Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.
Not true - our core membership demographic tends to be low income but educated. Not students so much. Commonly principled people working in the public or voluntary sector in jobs which are not highly paid.
It's okay, we're all adults here: nobody will mind you saying "s*cial w*rker".
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: The Greens are a load of white middle class stay at home mums and retired old boys, hardly multi cultural.......hardl y representative of the city. Old time rich busybodies who haven't a clue about ordinary working folk.[/p][/quote]Not true - our core membership demographic tends to be low income but educated. Not students so much. Commonly principled people working in the public or voluntary sector in jobs which are not highly paid.[/p][/quote]It's okay, we're all adults here: nobody will mind you saying "s*cial w*rker". Roundbill
  • Score: 2

12:57am Sun 1 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week.
The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services.
I think most residents are ready for change now.
What have you got against women Maxwell? Did you know some women have well paid jobs now?
Typical Clouseau response - can't answer the allegation - can't respond with facts - has to resort to making it appear the original poster is anti-feminist! Or how about your usual 'petrol-head' of 'UKIP voter' taunts?
Making yourself look stupid there Patchy.
Clouseau - sour grapes because your illustrious MEP couldn't be bothered to answer your sycophantic questions?

I guess he must have a pretty low view of you as well the rest of us.

The other parties are really lucky to have someone of your 'calibre' as a green party fanboy!
So are you saying you agree with maxwell's mysogenistic post?
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Yes Eugenius people who can afford to live in a city where the average house price is £300,000, 13 times the average salary, because their posh parents or rich husbands have supported them to work in the third sector and potter about in politics. This is why the disconnect between residents and the council grows by the week. The elected green members are the same. Old Davey, old Taylor, old Randall and Bowden and lots of well intentioned pleasant ladies who have never worked a 70 hour week to keep a roof over their families heads who potter about at public events enjoying vol au vents and still failing to deliver core services. I think most residents are ready for change now.[/p][/quote]What have you got against women Maxwell? Did you know some women have well paid jobs now?[/p][/quote]Typical Clouseau response - can't answer the allegation - can't respond with facts - has to resort to making it appear the original poster is anti-feminist! Or how about your usual 'petrol-head' of 'UKIP voter' taunts?[/p][/quote]Making yourself look stupid there Patchy.[/p][/quote]Clouseau - sour grapes because your illustrious MEP couldn't be bothered to answer your sycophantic questions? I guess he must have a pretty low view of you as well the rest of us. The other parties are really lucky to have someone of your 'calibre' as a green party fanboy![/p][/quote]So are you saying you agree with maxwell's mysogenistic post? HJarrs
  • Score: 0

6:53am Sun 1 Jun 14

pachallis says...

@Jharrs / Clouseau - am I mysogenistic? No. Not even sure I know what the term means. Is it some left-wing politically correct term for not following the feminist teachings of High Priestess Lucas?

As per my earlier post, I was just pointing out your usual inability to answer allegations; your inability to respond with facts; and your need to resort to name-calling.

And you seem to be doing it again!
@Jharrs / Clouseau - am I mysogenistic? No. Not even sure I know what the term means. Is it some left-wing politically correct term for not following the feminist teachings of High Priestess Lucas? As per my earlier post, I was just pointing out your usual inability to answer allegations; your inability to respond with facts; and your need to resort to name-calling. And you seem to be doing it again! pachallis
  • Score: 0

10:38am Sun 1 Jun 14

pachallis says...

Eugenius wrote:
Parking prices have been frozen for two years running. Is another party promising to cut parking prices? No, I didn't think so.

Female workers stand to have benefited more from the living wage which the Greens introduced at the council and have encouraged in the private sector. Also remember that bin strike last year? That was over allowances being equalised so that groups of mostly female workers now receive equal allowances as bin men, and more than before instead of a lesser sum.
A women workers' forum at the council has been set up to give women a stronger voice. Children from low-income families entitled to free school travel are now given a key card that grants them free travel around the city at all times, saving hard-up families money.
@Eugenius - 'Parking prices have been frozen for two years running' - spinning again are we?

This was after the green -led' transport committees April 2012 increases in parking charges of up to 100% to fund concessionary bus fares (I guess including the low-income family children), barely-used cycle lanes and theoretical 20 mph zones, and subsequent promise to not raise them again for the next 2 years.

So the greens have actually kept their promise after stitching up residents and visitors in 2012!

And don't start me on 'living wage' - another socialist ideological concept to increase wages.

Living Wage is generated from a weighted average hourly rate across single people and couples (not pensioners) with varying numbers of children in London based upon 'cost of living' and then a separate weighted value across the rest of the country. This includes what some people might not necessarily include as necessary to avoid poverty such as holidays, television and costs for motoring.

So in Brighton & Hove where the council is anti-car and pro-bike, should costs for motoring be excluded from the Living Wage and hence there be a lower living wage in the city?

Should the living wage paid similarly be adjusted to meet the needs of different sized families rather than forcing a single rate? For instance the living wage assumes both partners work and can share costs, so for single people they need a higher 'living wage'.
[quote][p][bold]Eugenius[/bold] wrote: Parking prices have been frozen for two years running. Is another party promising to cut parking prices? No, I didn't think so. Female workers stand to have benefited more from the living wage which the Greens introduced at the council and have encouraged in the private sector. Also remember that bin strike last year? That was over allowances being equalised so that groups of mostly female workers now receive equal allowances as bin men, and more than before instead of a lesser sum. A women workers' forum at the council has been set up to give women a stronger voice. Children from low-income families entitled to free school travel are now given a key card that grants them free travel around the city at all times, saving hard-up families money.[/p][/quote]@Eugenius - 'Parking prices have been frozen for two years running' - spinning again are we? This was after the green -led' transport committees April 2012 increases in parking charges of up to 100% to fund concessionary bus fares (I guess including the low-income family children), barely-used cycle lanes and theoretical 20 mph zones, and subsequent promise to not raise them again for the next 2 years. So the greens have actually kept their promise after stitching up residents and visitors in 2012! And don't start me on 'living wage' - another socialist ideological concept to increase wages. Living Wage is generated from a weighted average hourly rate across single people and couples (not pensioners) with varying numbers of children in London based upon 'cost of living' and then a separate weighted value across the rest of the country. This includes what some people might not necessarily include as necessary to avoid poverty such as holidays, television and costs for motoring. So in Brighton & Hove where the council is anti-car and pro-bike, should costs for motoring be excluded from the Living Wage and hence there be a lower living wage in the city? Should the living wage paid similarly be adjusted to meet the needs of different sized families rather than forcing a single rate? For instance the living wage assumes both partners work and can share costs, so for single people they need a higher 'living wage'. pachallis
  • Score: 0

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