i360 loan is banked - attraction to open by summer 2016

i360 loan is banked - attraction to open by summer 2016

i360 loan is banked - attraction to open by summer 2016

First published in News

The i360 is ready to go ahead, after the final £36.4 million of funding was banked this afternoon.

The £46.4 million project will see a 162 tall tower built on Brighton and Hove's seafront at the foot of the West Pier, with a viewing tower rising to 138 metres.

Jason Kitcat, leader of Brighton & Hove City Council said: "We are delighted to confirm our funding agreement with the Brighton i360.

"It will be a spectacular observation attraction and is the cornerstone to funding the regeneration of Brighton’s seafront, expected to draw more than 700,000 additional tourists and up to £25 million revenue into the local economy annually as well as more than £1 million to the council during the next two years of construction.

"Longer term the i360 will benefit the city through annual interest payments of over £1million, as well as 1% of ticket sales in perpetuity, as well as creating jobs and investment."

David Marks, creator of the Brighton i360 and the London Eye, said: "We have the opportunity to create something truly unique and of international renown here on Brighton’s beautiful seafront and we look forward to opening the attraction in summer 2016."

The i360 will create 169 jobs.

Today contracts for a loan agreement of £36.2 million to Brighton i360 Ltd, which comes via the council from government agency, the Public Works Loan Board.

No council tax money is being used to fund the project. The profit on the interest from the loan, plus business rates, will earn the council more than £1 million a year. 

Coast to Capital Local Enterprise Partnership is making a seven-year loan of £4 million to the project.

Chief exective Ron Crank said: "We immediately recognised the significance of ensuring this iconic project proceeds, enabling Brighton and Hove to remain at the forefront of the UK visitor economy.

"Our Growing Places Fund has been established to support such loan investments and guarantees the creation and sustainability of local jobs."

Glynn Jones, chairman of the West Pier Trust, said: "The West Pier Trust is delighted that financial close has been reached and that work can now start apace on the construction of what will be a truly elegant and exciting addition to the City's shop front, the seafront.

"The i360 is the result of the closest partnership working between the trust, Marks Barfield and the council and Local Enterprise Partnership, who were courageous and had the foresight to invest in the project.

"The i360 will help ensure that the council’s vision for seafront moves ahead. By working in collaboration we will bring to our city a world class attraction which will be a worthy successor in part to the former West Pier.

"By reaching agreement the city has once again continued the process of reinventing itself, demonstrating that is open for business and that it is at the leading edge of tourism for all age groups."

Work to remove the root end of the West Pier and columns on the beach to make way for the project is on track and due to be completed by the end of the month. The main structure of the old West Pier will remain.

Construction work is due to begin in July.

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5:20pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Zeta Function says...

I hope the construction don't pollute the sea water.
I hope the construction don't pollute the sea water. Zeta Function
  • Score: 9

5:20pm Thu 19 Jun 14

power_ranger says...

Can we put KitKat in it and leave him up there?
Can we put KitKat in it and leave him up there? power_ranger
  • Score: 49

5:22pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Zeta Function says...

Perhaps they can build a wall between Brighton and Hove while they're at it.
Perhaps they can build a wall between Brighton and Hove while they're at it. Zeta Function
  • Score: 19

5:56pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) says...

This will all end in tears; anything that the incapable and incompetent Green Council gets its hands on is bound to fail.
This will all end in tears; anything that the incapable and incompetent Green Council gets its hands on is bound to fail. Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)
  • Score: 32

6:02pm Thu 19 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it! HJarrs
  • Score: -37

6:08pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) says...

HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
As a Green Party spokesperson, would you like to confirm or deny Ben Duncan's post on his blog where he states that upon completion, the faces of all Green councillors will be displayed on the bottom of the 'pod', and will be illuminated at night?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]As a Green Party spokesperson, would you like to confirm or deny Ben Duncan's post on his blog where he states that upon completion, the faces of all Green councillors will be displayed on the bottom of the 'pod', and will be illuminated at night? Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)
  • Score: 15

6:09pm Thu 19 Jun 14

charlie smirke says...

HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
I think we should stick you up the top of this thing along with Kitcat.
You are so monotonous, predictable and boring.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]I think we should stick you up the top of this thing along with Kitcat. You are so monotonous, predictable and boring. charlie smirke
  • Score: 20

6:09pm Thu 19 Jun 14

charlie smirke says...

HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
I think we should stick you up the top of this thing along with Kitcat.
You are so monotonous, predictable and boring.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]I think we should stick you up the top of this thing along with Kitcat. You are so monotonous, predictable and boring. charlie smirke
  • Score: 11

6:09pm Thu 19 Jun 14

charlie smirke says...

HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
I think we should stick you up the top of this thing along with Kitcat.
You are so monotonous, predictable and boring.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]I think we should stick you up the top of this thing along with Kitcat. You are so monotonous, predictable and boring. charlie smirke
  • Score: 12

6:14pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) says...

Everybody but the incapable and incompetent Green Council realises that a) the i360 will not be finished on schedule, b) it's construction will run hugely over-budget and c) it won't attract any where near the amount of visitors that the Greens claim that it will.

What a fitting monument to Green Party incompetence and incapability; a huge butt-plug erected on Brighton seafront.
Everybody but the incapable and incompetent Green Council realises that a) the i360 will not be finished on schedule, b) it's construction will run hugely over-budget and c) it won't attract any where near the amount of visitors that the Greens claim that it will. What a fitting monument to Green Party incompetence and incapability; a huge butt-plug erected on Brighton seafront. Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)
  • Score: 24

6:20pm Thu 19 Jun 14

cynic_the says...

HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
I hope you're right, because if not, it's going to be very expensive for the city.

Thing is, I doubt we'll ever hear the REAL numbers as the years pass. Just like when Kitkat was asked the true cost of dealing with traveler encampments, the powers that be will never 'have those figures to hand'....

Still, now it's definitely happening I guess we'll have to just say "you'd better not muck it up", and leave the I-told-you-sos for a few years down the line when we find out who was right!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]I hope you're right, because if not, it's going to be very expensive for the city. Thing is, I doubt we'll ever hear the REAL numbers as the years pass. Just like when Kitkat was asked the true cost of dealing with traveler encampments, the powers that be will never 'have those figures to hand'.... Still, now it's definitely happening I guess we'll have to just say "you'd better not muck it up", and leave the I-told-you-sos for a few years down the line when we find out who was right! cynic_the
  • Score: 13

6:32pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Hovite says...

HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
It won't really matter if it breaks even or not once it is built.
The only difference will be the council will have to subsidise the loan with the profit they are predicting to earn from land rent and business rates, and if this doesn't cover it and completely bombs the council Tax will increase.

Will it draw an extra 700,000 visitors into the city? Or just give visitors another option to spend their money elsewhere? And if the latter, will it divert money from the local economy rather than into it.

It’s a use once only gimmick but it cannot be thrown away after use like a disposable razor, so will be very interesting to see how this pans out.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]It won't really matter if it breaks even or not once it is built. The only difference will be the council will have to subsidise the loan with the profit they are predicting to earn from land rent and business rates, and if this doesn't cover it and completely bombs the council Tax will increase. Will it draw an extra 700,000 visitors into the city? Or just give visitors another option to spend their money elsewhere? And if the latter, will it divert money from the local economy rather than into it. It’s a use once only gimmick but it cannot be thrown away after use like a disposable razor, so will be very interesting to see how this pans out. Hovite
  • Score: 16

6:40pm Thu 19 Jun 14

monkeymoo says...

HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
All these extra tourists coming to the city and staying overnight?

.....And you MUPPET'S go and cut a fire engine and firefighters from the city!

Now just 20 firefighters to protect over 750,000 people on any one day / night. Well thought out that!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]All these extra tourists coming to the city and staying overnight? .....And you MUPPET'S go and cut a fire engine and firefighters from the city! Now just 20 firefighters to protect over 750,000 people on any one day / night. Well thought out that! monkeymoo
  • Score: 17

6:43pm Thu 19 Jun 14

nosolution says...

Because the largely unwanted and publicly funded i-sore is now going up the now truly iconic, popular(to look at) and privately funded wheel will be taken down which is a tragedy imho.The wheel needs to stay to create, amongst other things, a more competitive market...
Because the largely unwanted and publicly funded i-sore is now going up the now truly iconic, popular(to look at) and privately funded wheel will be taken down which is a tragedy imho.The wheel needs to stay to create, amongst other things, a more competitive market... nosolution
  • Score: 6

6:47pm Thu 19 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
As a Green Party spokesperson, would you like to confirm or deny Ben Duncan's post on his blog where he states that upon completion, the faces of all Green councillors will be displayed on the bottom of the 'pod', and will be illuminated at night?
Sorry, not a Green Party spokesperson. Next.
[quote][p][bold]Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]As a Green Party spokesperson, would you like to confirm or deny Ben Duncan's post on his blog where he states that upon completion, the faces of all Green councillors will be displayed on the bottom of the 'pod', and will be illuminated at night?[/p][/quote]Sorry, not a Green Party spokesperson. Next. HJarrs
  • Score: -32

6:49pm Thu 19 Jun 14

stir up says...

It can only improve the area that has been in need of investment for years,
As for the comment re building a wall between Brighton and Hove there has been one for many years. In the 1960s I went out with a girl form Hove and her family disproved of me because I lived in Brighton. Thankfully I soon packed her in, by the way her father was a barber
It can only improve the area that has been in need of investment for years, As for the comment re building a wall between Brighton and Hove there has been one for many years. In the 1960s I went out with a girl form Hove and her family disproved of me because I lived in Brighton. Thankfully I soon packed her in, by the way her father was a barber stir up
  • Score: -13

6:49pm Thu 19 Jun 14

stir up says...

It can only improve the area that has been in need of investment for years,
As for the comment re building a wall between Brighton and Hove there has been one for many years. In the 1960s I went out with a girl form Hove and her family disproved of me because I lived in Brighton. Thankfully I soon packed her in, by the way her father was a barber
It can only improve the area that has been in need of investment for years, As for the comment re building a wall between Brighton and Hove there has been one for many years. In the 1960s I went out with a girl form Hove and her family disproved of me because I lived in Brighton. Thankfully I soon packed her in, by the way her father was a barber stir up
  • Score: -9

6:49pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Quiterie says...

Have a look at the business case for this on the Council website. The projected numbers are wildly optimistic and largely based on the London Eye which is not a sensible comparison.

There is no way this will attract the visitor numbers projected.

Brighton is totally different to London. Just think for a minute.... if there was a similar i360 in a comparable City, such as Southampton, or Portsmouth would you pay £14 to go up it? (£56 for a family of 4). I certainly wouldn't.

And the really funny thing is that they're expecting 66% of the visitors using it to come by car. Not very 'Green' is it!?!?!
Have a look at the business case for this on the Council website. The projected numbers are wildly optimistic and largely based on the London Eye which is not a sensible comparison. There is no way this will attract the visitor numbers projected. Brighton is totally different to London. Just think for a minute.... if there was a similar i360 in a comparable City, such as Southampton, or Portsmouth would you pay £14 to go up it? (£56 for a family of 4). I certainly wouldn't. And the really funny thing is that they're expecting 66% of the visitors using it to come by car. Not very 'Green' is it!?!?! Quiterie
  • Score: 28

6:54pm Thu 19 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

monkeymoo wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
All these extra tourists coming to the city and staying overnight?

.....And you MUPPET'S go and cut a fire engine and firefighters from the city!

Now just 20 firefighters to protect over 750,000 people on any one day / night. Well thought out that!
Muppets that cut the fire engine in Brighton were UKIP and conservative councillors. Greens and Labour voted against. Glad you brought that up. Irrelevant to the i360.
[quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]All these extra tourists coming to the city and staying overnight? .....And you MUPPET'S go and cut a fire engine and firefighters from the city! Now just 20 firefighters to protect over 750,000 people on any one day / night. Well thought out that![/p][/quote]Muppets that cut the fire engine in Brighton were UKIP and conservative councillors. Greens and Labour voted against. Glad you brought that up. Irrelevant to the i360. HJarrs
  • Score: -21

7:02pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) says...

HJarrs wrote:
Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
As a Green Party spokesperson, would you like to confirm or deny Ben Duncan's post on his blog where he states that upon completion, the faces of all Green councillors will be displayed on the bottom of the 'pod', and will be illuminated at night?
Sorry, not a Green Party spokesperson. Next.
Are you sure you're not? Googling 'hjarrs' shows that you have been posting pro-Green comments on the websites of the Bournemouth Echo newspaper, and the Warrrington Guardian newspaper website.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]As a Green Party spokesperson, would you like to confirm or deny Ben Duncan's post on his blog where he states that upon completion, the faces of all Green councillors will be displayed on the bottom of the 'pod', and will be illuminated at night?[/p][/quote]Sorry, not a Green Party spokesperson. Next.[/p][/quote]Are you sure you're not? Googling 'hjarrs' shows that you have been posting pro-Green comments on the websites of the Bournemouth Echo newspaper, and the Warrrington Guardian newspaper website. Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)
  • Score: 22

7:07pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Travellers have arrived in Wild Park again this evening.
I am hoping Jason will step up and take immediate action to protect the green environment.
Come on Jason, get Caroline up there to protest or hasn't Moulsecoomb got the same PR value as Balcombe.
Our patience is wearing thin.
Travellers have arrived in Wild Park again this evening. I am hoping Jason will step up and take immediate action to protect the green environment. Come on Jason, get Caroline up there to protest or hasn't Moulsecoomb got the same PR value as Balcombe. Our patience is wearing thin. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 28

7:12pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Travellers have arrived in Wild Park again this evening.
I am hoping Jason will step up and take immediate action to protect the green environment.
Come on Jason, get Caroline up there to protest or hasn't Moulsecoomb got the same PR value as Balcombe.
Our patience is wearing thin.
Not much chance of that happening; don't forget that at the beginning of her tenure, '5 Homes' Lucas announced that under the Green council, Brighton is now the most traveller-friendly city in the country.

I doubt many travellers live near '5 Homes' Lucas and her multi-millionaire husband Richard Savage
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Travellers have arrived in Wild Park again this evening. I am hoping Jason will step up and take immediate action to protect the green environment. Come on Jason, get Caroline up there to protest or hasn't Moulsecoomb got the same PR value as Balcombe. Our patience is wearing thin.[/p][/quote]Not much chance of that happening; don't forget that at the beginning of her tenure, '5 Homes' Lucas announced that under the Green council, Brighton is now the most traveller-friendly city in the country. I doubt many travellers live near '5 Homes' Lucas and her multi-millionaire husband Richard Savage Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)
  • Score: 23

7:38pm Thu 19 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
As a Green Party spokesperson, would you like to confirm or deny Ben Duncan's post on his blog where he states that upon completion, the faces of all Green councillors will be displayed on the bottom of the 'pod', and will be illuminated at night?
Sorry, not a Green Party spokesperson. Next.
Are you sure you're not? Googling 'hjarrs' shows that you have been posting pro-Green comments on the websites of the Bournemouth Echo newspaper, and the Warrrington Guardian newspaper website.
I am flattered! You missed the Daily Mail. I am sure I aren't a spokesperson for anyone but myself.

I have to let you into a secret though, I am not so prolific as you think. For some reason, when you do a search for something on the Argus using google, the information is annoyingly mirrored on the websites of the papers in the Argus group.
[quote][p][bold]Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]As a Green Party spokesperson, would you like to confirm or deny Ben Duncan's post on his blog where he states that upon completion, the faces of all Green councillors will be displayed on the bottom of the 'pod', and will be illuminated at night?[/p][/quote]Sorry, not a Green Party spokesperson. Next.[/p][/quote]Are you sure you're not? Googling 'hjarrs' shows that you have been posting pro-Green comments on the websites of the Bournemouth Echo newspaper, and the Warrrington Guardian newspaper website.[/p][/quote]I am flattered! You missed the Daily Mail. I am sure I aren't a spokesperson for anyone but myself. I have to let you into a secret though, I am not so prolific as you think. For some reason, when you do a search for something on the Argus using google, the information is annoyingly mirrored on the websites of the papers in the Argus group. HJarrs
  • Score: -25

7:41pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Bennn says...

Great news! It will become a real landmark, just like the space needle in Seattle. Bring it on now, can't wait!
Great news! It will become a real landmark, just like the space needle in Seattle. Bring it on now, can't wait! Bennn
  • Score: -18

7:52pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Bennn says...

When the i360 project was first voted the Greens weren't in administration, so I say thank you to the Labour, Tory, Green, whatever councillors who helped this go ahead.
When the i360 project was first voted the Greens weren't in administration, so I say thank you to the Labour, Tory, Green, whatever councillors who helped this go ahead. Bennn
  • Score: -20

7:56pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Withdean-er says...

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) wrote:
This will all end in tears; anything that the incapable and incompetent Green Council gets its hands on is bound to fail.
But a dynamic Labour or Conservative administration would handle OUR money so well, wouldn't they?
[quote][p][bold]Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)[/bold] wrote: This will all end in tears; anything that the incapable and incompetent Green Council gets its hands on is bound to fail.[/p][/quote]But a dynamic Labour or Conservative administration would handle OUR money so well, wouldn't they? Withdean-er
  • Score: -15

8:11pm Thu 19 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) wrote:
This will all end in tears; anything that the incapable and incompetent Green Council gets its hands on is bound to fail.
But a dynamic Labour or Conservative administration would handle OUR money so well, wouldn't they?
Dynamic Labour and conservative is an oxymoron.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)[/bold] wrote: This will all end in tears; anything that the incapable and incompetent Green Council gets its hands on is bound to fail.[/p][/quote]But a dynamic Labour or Conservative administration would handle OUR money so well, wouldn't they?[/p][/quote]Dynamic Labour and conservative is an oxymoron. HJarrs
  • Score: -16

8:22pm Thu 19 Jun 14

season says...

you would they would sort the f##k up out on the main seafront road first... i bet rachel clark & co gets a nice back hander out of it......... the greens are a load of wasters
you would they would sort the f##k up out on the main seafront road first... i bet rachel clark & co gets a nice back hander out of it......... the greens are a load of wasters season
  • Score: 10

8:24pm Thu 19 Jun 14

season says...

think...
think... season
  • Score: -4

8:55pm Thu 19 Jun 14

MasonStorm says...

When did we vote for this to go ahead?
When did we vote for this to go ahead? MasonStorm
  • Score: 15

8:58pm Thu 19 Jun 14

makoshark says...

I am truly amazed that at the same time funding is announced for a private venture from the quasi public purse, a further announcement is made about BCC having to make funding related redundancies of educational people which also follows the recent cut back to the Fire Service...

Unfortunately, Brighton may truly struggle to right so many wrongs caused over the past few years.
I am truly amazed that at the same time funding is announced for a private venture from the quasi public purse, a further announcement is made about BCC having to make funding related redundancies of educational people which also follows the recent cut back to the Fire Service... Unfortunately, Brighton may truly struggle to right so many wrongs caused over the past few years. makoshark
  • Score: 16

9:02pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Can this be says...

An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.
An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace. Can this be
  • Score: 19

9:14pm Thu 19 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

Can this be wrote:
An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.
The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.
[quote][p][bold]Can this be[/bold] wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.[/p][/quote]The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money. HJarrs
  • Score: -8

9:18pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Baffled of Brighton says...

HJarrs wrote:
Can this be wrote:
An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.
The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.
The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Can this be[/bold] wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.[/p][/quote]The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.[/p][/quote]The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million. Baffled of Brighton
  • Score: 8

9:41pm Thu 19 Jun 14

rolivan says...

If you break the figures down it will need to get over a thousand customers a day just to break even.
If you break the figures down it will need to get over a thousand customers a day just to break even. rolivan
  • Score: 6

9:42pm Thu 19 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

Baffled of Brighton wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Can this be wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.
The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.
The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.
And the point is?Spinnaker Tower was opened in 2005, so there is a bit of inflation to add, plus I note Wikipedia says that the £35million was for the tower only. I believe the i360 includes the cost of the facilities at the ground level.

Also, I note that Spinnaker Tower had 600k visitors in its first year.
[quote][p][bold]Baffled of Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Can this be[/bold] wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.[/p][/quote]The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.[/p][/quote]The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.[/p][/quote]And the point is?Spinnaker Tower was opened in 2005, so there is a bit of inflation to add, plus I note Wikipedia says that the £35million was for the tower only. I believe the i360 includes the cost of the facilities at the ground level. Also, I note that Spinnaker Tower had 600k visitors in its first year. HJarrs
  • Score: -12

9:59pm Thu 19 Jun 14

rolivan says...

HJarrs wrote:
Baffled of Brighton wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Can this be wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.
The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.
The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.
And the point is?Spinnaker Tower was opened in 2005, so there is a bit of inflation to add, plus I note Wikipedia says that the £35million was for the tower only. I believe the i360 includes the cost of the facilities at the ground level.

Also, I note that Spinnaker Tower had 600k visitors in its first year.
The difference is that when you go up the Spinaker there is far more to see as with the London Eye what does one get to see with the i360 180° of sea and the A few worthwhile buildings which you can gain a much better view of from the Race hill . In fact it would be cheaper to catch a cab there and back from the Station than go up the i360.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baffled of Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Can this be[/bold] wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.[/p][/quote]The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.[/p][/quote]The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.[/p][/quote]And the point is?Spinnaker Tower was opened in 2005, so there is a bit of inflation to add, plus I note Wikipedia says that the £35million was for the tower only. I believe the i360 includes the cost of the facilities at the ground level. Also, I note that Spinnaker Tower had 600k visitors in its first year.[/p][/quote]The difference is that when you go up the Spinaker there is far more to see as with the London Eye what does one get to see with the i360 180° of sea and the A few worthwhile buildings which you can gain a much better view of from the Race hill . In fact it would be cheaper to catch a cab there and back from the Station than go up the i360. rolivan
  • Score: 9

10:18pm Thu 19 Jun 14

starlion says...

HJarrs wrote:
Baffled of Brighton wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Can this be wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.
The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.
The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.
And the point is?Spinnaker Tower was opened in 2005, so there is a bit of inflation to add, plus I note Wikipedia says that the £35million was for the tower only. I believe the i360 includes the cost of the facilities at the ground level.

Also, I note that Spinnaker Tower had 600k visitors in its first year.
While I tend to agree with most of what you say , the spinnaker has ' welcomed 2 million visitors ' since they opened - 222,000 avg per annum
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baffled of Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Can this be[/bold] wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.[/p][/quote]The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.[/p][/quote]The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.[/p][/quote]And the point is?Spinnaker Tower was opened in 2005, so there is a bit of inflation to add, plus I note Wikipedia says that the £35million was for the tower only. I believe the i360 includes the cost of the facilities at the ground level. Also, I note that Spinnaker Tower had 600k visitors in its first year.[/p][/quote]While I tend to agree with most of what you say , the spinnaker has ' welcomed 2 million visitors ' since they opened - 222,000 avg per annum starlion
  • Score: 5

10:35pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Scubagirl says...

Good point. I'm excited - the i360 is going to put Brighton on the world map! Chill out guys, it's not going to be run by the Council but by people who know what they're doing with attractions - it should be great for everyone.
Good point. I'm excited - the i360 is going to put Brighton on the world map! Chill out guys, it's not going to be run by the Council but by people who know what they're doing with attractions - it should be great for everyone. Scubagirl
  • Score: -9

10:37pm Thu 19 Jun 14

To baldly go says...

Just read the headlines, you must be joking Greens! Let's spend the money before we are voted out! BANKERS everyone of you!
Just read the headlines, you must be joking Greens! Let's spend the money before we are voted out! BANKERS everyone of you! To baldly go
  • Score: 2

10:46pm Thu 19 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

starlion wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Baffled of Brighton wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Can this be wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.
The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.
The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.
And the point is?Spinnaker Tower was opened in 2005, so there is a bit of inflation to add, plus I note Wikipedia says that the £35million was for the tower only. I believe the i360 includes the cost of the facilities at the ground level. Also, I note that Spinnaker Tower had 600k visitors in its first year.
While I tend to agree with most of what you say , the spinnaker has ' welcomed 2 million visitors ' since they opened - 222,000 avg per annum
I note another website said 3 million visitors. I didn't quote total figures as they were a bit vague.
[quote][p][bold]starlion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baffled of Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Can this be[/bold] wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.[/p][/quote]The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.[/p][/quote]The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.[/p][/quote]And the point is?Spinnaker Tower was opened in 2005, so there is a bit of inflation to add, plus I note Wikipedia says that the £35million was for the tower only. I believe the i360 includes the cost of the facilities at the ground level. Also, I note that Spinnaker Tower had 600k visitors in its first year.[/p][/quote]While I tend to agree with most of what you say , the spinnaker has ' welcomed 2 million visitors ' since they opened - 222,000 avg per annum[/p][/quote]I note another website said 3 million visitors. I didn't quote total figures as they were a bit vague. HJarrs
  • Score: -8

11:05pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

I wonder if Nobles or any of the other private attractions such as the sealife centre will seek legal advice over a possible breach of Competition Law with regards to the publicly funded attraction generating unfair competition. The Americans are hot on this sort of thing. Could get lively. How exciting.
I wonder if Nobles or any of the other private attractions such as the sealife centre will seek legal advice over a possible breach of Competition Law with regards to the publicly funded attraction generating unfair competition. The Americans are hot on this sort of thing. Could get lively. How exciting. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 6

11:09pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Dr Wombleface says...

If they've got that much money to loan, why can't they spend some on resurfacing some roads that badly need it. Round my way there's a thin patchy layer of tarmac with concrete showing through. Blooming well sort that out before painting a number 20 on them all. Muppets.
If they've got that much money to loan, why can't they spend some on resurfacing some roads that badly need it. Round my way there's a thin patchy layer of tarmac with concrete showing through. Blooming well sort that out before painting a number 20 on them all. Muppets. Dr Wombleface
  • Score: 6

11:29pm Thu 19 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

"The i360 will create 169 jobs"

For foreigners.

Before you slam me, ask yourself when was the last time you encountered an English person operating anything in Brighton.
"The i360 will create 169 jobs" For foreigners. Before you slam me, ask yourself when was the last time you encountered an English person operating anything in Brighton. stevo!!
  • Score: -2

11:59pm Thu 19 Jun 14

downbythesea says...

Great News!

I bet the miserable old moaners at the "Save Hove" group are spinning in their chairs at this "horrific news".

Haha! Get it built, Id love to go on it.
Great News! I bet the miserable old moaners at the "Save Hove" group are spinning in their chairs at this "horrific news". Haha! Get it built, Id love to go on it. downbythesea
  • Score: -3

12:48am Fri 20 Jun 14

Man of steel says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Travellers have arrived in Wild Park again this evening.
I am hoping Jason will step up and take immediate action to protect the green environment.
Come on Jason, get Caroline up there to protest or hasn't Moulsecoomb got the same PR value as Balcombe.
Our patience is wearing thin.
We went past the Wild Park on the way out to Newhaven, there is 5 or 6 of them parked on the road in the park, but coming back along the coast road, we saw dozens of them parked on the pitch and putt course by Roedean School, I've never seen them there before.
Going to do the greens a lot of good, golf course greens I'm talking about, of course.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Travellers have arrived in Wild Park again this evening. I am hoping Jason will step up and take immediate action to protect the green environment. Come on Jason, get Caroline up there to protest or hasn't Moulsecoomb got the same PR value as Balcombe. Our patience is wearing thin.[/p][/quote]We went past the Wild Park on the way out to Newhaven, there is 5 or 6 of them parked on the road in the park, but coming back along the coast road, we saw dozens of them parked on the pitch and putt course by Roedean School, I've never seen them there before. Going to do the greens a lot of good, golf course greens I'm talking about, of course. Man of steel
  • Score: 6

12:58am Fri 20 Jun 14

Man of steel says...

rolivan wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Baffled of Brighton wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Can this be wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.
The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.
The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.
And the point is?Spinnaker Tower was opened in 2005, so there is a bit of inflation to add, plus I note Wikipedia says that the £35million was for the tower only. I believe the i360 includes the cost of the facilities at the ground level.

Also, I note that Spinnaker Tower had 600k visitors in its first year.
The difference is that when you go up the Spinaker there is far more to see as with the London Eye what does one get to see with the i360 180° of sea and the A few worthwhile buildings which you can gain a much better view of from the Race hill . In fact it would be cheaper to catch a cab there and back from the Station than go up the i360.
The other differences worth noting with the Spinnaker are that it is half the price, has three floors, has a cafe on the middle floor, and you can stay up there as long as you like.
Oh, I almost forgot, there are numerous cheap car parks within easy walking distance.
[quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baffled of Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Can this be[/bold] wrote: An appalling waste of our money without the backing of any convincing business case and when so many other things need sorting out. A disgrace.[/p][/quote]The business case was so poor that the government lending arm, the Public Works Loan Board, has stumped up the money.[/p][/quote]The tower in Portsmouth is 32 meters taller and cost £35million.[/p][/quote]And the point is?Spinnaker Tower was opened in 2005, so there is a bit of inflation to add, plus I note Wikipedia says that the £35million was for the tower only. I believe the i360 includes the cost of the facilities at the ground level. Also, I note that Spinnaker Tower had 600k visitors in its first year.[/p][/quote]The difference is that when you go up the Spinaker there is far more to see as with the London Eye what does one get to see with the i360 180° of sea and the A few worthwhile buildings which you can gain a much better view of from the Race hill . In fact it would be cheaper to catch a cab there and back from the Station than go up the i360.[/p][/quote]The other differences worth noting with the Spinnaker are that it is half the price, has three floors, has a cafe on the middle floor, and you can stay up there as long as you like. Oh, I almost forgot, there are numerous cheap car parks within easy walking distance. Man of steel
  • Score: 7

8:25am Fri 20 Jun 14

andyfm says...

There is more chance of Brighton railway station being extended to the sea front, then the tower being finished on time and within budget!!!
There is more chance of Brighton railway station being extended to the sea front, then the tower being finished on time and within budget!!! andyfm
  • Score: 1

8:50am Fri 20 Jun 14

s_james says...

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) wrote:
Everybody but the incapable and incompetent Green Council realises that a) the i360 will not be finished on schedule, b) it's construction will run hugely over-budget and c) it won't attract any where near the amount of visitors that the Greens claim that it will.

What a fitting monument to Green Party incompetence and incapability; a huge butt-plug erected on Brighton seafront.
The Conservatives backed it as well.

I'm pleased to see it going ahead. I trust the judgements of the experienced consultants who drew up the estimated visitor figures far more than the moaners on here, especially given their predictions for other similar attractions have apparently been pretty accurate.
[quote][p][bold]Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)[/bold] wrote: Everybody but the incapable and incompetent Green Council realises that a) the i360 will not be finished on schedule, b) it's construction will run hugely over-budget and c) it won't attract any where near the amount of visitors that the Greens claim that it will. What a fitting monument to Green Party incompetence and incapability; a huge butt-plug erected on Brighton seafront.[/p][/quote]The Conservatives backed it as well. I'm pleased to see it going ahead. I trust the judgements of the experienced consultants who drew up the estimated visitor figures far more than the moaners on here, especially given their predictions for other similar attractions have apparently been pretty accurate. s_james
  • Score: 0

9:35am Fri 20 Jun 14

Morpheus says...

HJarrs wrote:
monkeymoo wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
All these extra tourists coming to the city and staying overnight?

.....And you MUPPET'S go and cut a fire engine and firefighters from the city!

Now just 20 firefighters to protect over 750,000 people on any one day / night. Well thought out that!
Muppets that cut the fire engine in Brighton were UKIP and conservative councillors. Greens and Labour voted against. Glad you brought that up. Irrelevant to the i360.
Does Brighton have a UKIP councillor?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]All these extra tourists coming to the city and staying overnight? .....And you MUPPET'S go and cut a fire engine and firefighters from the city! Now just 20 firefighters to protect over 750,000 people on any one day / night. Well thought out that![/p][/quote]Muppets that cut the fire engine in Brighton were UKIP and conservative councillors. Greens and Labour voted against. Glad you brought that up. Irrelevant to the i360.[/p][/quote]Does Brighton have a UKIP councillor? Morpheus
  • Score: -2

9:43am Fri 20 Jun 14

Morpheus says...

The Green Party is being blamed for this folly. The Tory and Labour councillors could have voted against it, but they didn't. The problem is the lot of them. We have the worst council in the country no matter who is in power. I won't vote for any of them.
The Green Party is being blamed for this folly. The Tory and Labour councillors could have voted against it, but they didn't. The problem is the lot of them. We have the worst council in the country no matter who is in power. I won't vote for any of them. Morpheus
  • Score: -1

11:23am Fri 20 Jun 14

s_james says...

Morpheus wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
monkeymoo wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity.

Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it!
All these extra tourists coming to the city and staying overnight?

.....And you MUPPET'S go and cut a fire engine and firefighters from the city!

Now just 20 firefighters to protect over 750,000 people on any one day / night. Well thought out that!
Muppets that cut the fire engine in Brighton were UKIP and conservative councillors. Greens and Labour voted against. Glad you brought that up. Irrelevant to the i360.
Does Brighton have a UKIP councillor?
Decision was made by the East Sussex Fire Authority which includes representatives of councils across the East Sussex including BHCC. So UKIP were indeed represented and voted for the cuts. Greens and Labout against.
[quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Yet more good news. The city has to keep moving forward and evolving if we are to retain our popularity. Even better that this could provide desperately needed revenue for the council. Will 700k pa visit the i360? I don't know, but 400k required to break even? I think that is quite probable given 11million visitors including 400k overnights by foreigners alone and this is increasing. Will it draw extra business to the seafront and to that part of the city? Definitely. Will there be the usual moaners rolling up on the comments section as usual to knock anything positive about the city? You can bet the house on it![/p][/quote]All these extra tourists coming to the city and staying overnight? .....And you MUPPET'S go and cut a fire engine and firefighters from the city! Now just 20 firefighters to protect over 750,000 people on any one day / night. Well thought out that![/p][/quote]Muppets that cut the fire engine in Brighton were UKIP and conservative councillors. Greens and Labour voted against. Glad you brought that up. Irrelevant to the i360.[/p][/quote]Does Brighton have a UKIP councillor?[/p][/quote]Decision was made by the East Sussex Fire Authority which includes representatives of councils across the East Sussex including BHCC. So UKIP were indeed represented and voted for the cuts. Greens and Labout against. s_james
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Fri 20 Jun 14

brightonian57 says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
I wonder if Nobles or any of the other private attractions such as the sealife centre will seek legal advice over a possible breach of Competition Law with regards to the publicly funded attraction generating unfair competition. The Americans are hot on this sort of thing. Could get lively. How exciting.
I doubt they will need to
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: I wonder if Nobles or any of the other private attractions such as the sealife centre will seek legal advice over a possible breach of Competition Law with regards to the publicly funded attraction generating unfair competition. The Americans are hot on this sort of thing. Could get lively. How exciting.[/p][/quote]I doubt they will need to brightonian57
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SussexLass says...

“If Coun Kitcat is looking for an attraction to lure visitors in that direction, I can suggest something: every weekend, chuck £50,000 up in the air at the West Pier for people to grab – they’d turn up all right. You could do this every single week for the decade, and it would still be £10 million cheaper than the proposed loan for the i360, which we’ll probably never get back.” - Tony Davenport, letter in The Argus 18.3.14
“If Coun Kitcat is looking for an attraction to lure visitors in that direction, I can suggest something: every weekend, chuck £50,000 up in the air at the West Pier for people to grab – they’d turn up all right. You could do this every single week for the decade, and it would still be £10 million cheaper than the proposed loan for the i360, which we’ll probably never get back.” - Tony Davenport, letter in The Argus 18.3.14 SussexLass
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