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12 arrested as four raves are broken up by the police

The Argus: 13 arrests made as four raves are broken up by the police 13 arrests made as four raves are broken up by the police

FOUR raves were broken up by police over the weekend and 12 people were arrested.

Sussex Police stopped two raves overnight on Friday into Saturday morning and a further two Saturday night into Sunday morning.

This crackdown comes just weeks after Sussex Police and Crime Commissioner Katy Bourne called for a review into how the police force deals with raves after they failed to stop a 2000 strong event at Devil's Dyke.

Superintendent Jim Bartett said: "These calls came in thanks to members of the public who were concerned and alerted us to the potential raves. We acted swiftly to stop them before they started or were able to grow in size.

"We are asking people to be our eyes and ears to potential raves. Keep an eye on access points to land and make sure they are secure.

“Please report any locks which have been broken or removed. Report any vehicles driving off-road, groups of vehicles in rural areas, convoys of vehicles and loud music in remote locations."

Officers were called around 10pm on Saturday to Wivelsfield near Burgess Hill as the rave was being set up and people were arriving.

Three men, a 26-year-old from Brighton, a 23-year-old from Peacehaven and a 24-year-old from Seaford, were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit a public nuisance.

All have been bailed until August 22. The sound equipment was also seized. At 12.40am on Sunday morning another rave was stopped at Stanmer Park in Brighton where 50 people had attended with more people attending the location.

Police attended, seized the sound equipment and arrested three men.

A 26-year-old from Brighton, a 23-year-old from Hastings and a 28-year-old from Brighton, were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit a public nuisance and have been released without charge.

On Saturday night at around 10pm police were alerted to a large rave being set up in Falmer. Officers attended and arrested six men.

A 27-year-old from Brighton, a 30-year-old with no fixed address, a 24-year-old from Horsham, a 29-year-old from Brighton and a 29-year-old from Billingshurt were arrested for conspiracy to cause a public nuisance.

A 29-year-old from Horsham was arrested for conspiracy to cause a public nuisance and possession of a knife.

They have all been bailed until July 28 while investigations continue. A significant amount of sound equipment was seized by police.

A further small rave was also broken up in Rogate, near Petersfield, at 3am where approximately 60 people were in attendance. No arrests were made.

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12:47pm Mon 30 Jun 14

brightonline says...

Why can't the police act this quickly to disperse the multitude of travellers from our green spaces?
Why can't the police act this quickly to disperse the multitude of travellers from our green spaces? brightonline
  • Score: 62

1:22pm Mon 30 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

So the 'smaller rave actually had ten more people than the larger one.
So the 'smaller rave actually had ten more people than the larger one. stevo!!
  • Score: 13

1:29pm Mon 30 Jun 14

kopite_rob says...

Superintendent Jim Bartett said: "These calls came in thanks to members of the public who were concerned and alerted us to the potential raves. We acted swiftly to stop them before they started or were able to grow in size.
“Please report any locks which have been broken or removed. Report any vehicles driving off-road, groups of vehicles in rural areas, convoys of vehicles and loud music in remote locations."

Not so swift to act when it comes to supporting local residents stop travellers doing the same thing though.
Superintendent Jim Bartett said: "These calls came in thanks to members of the public who were concerned and alerted us to the potential raves. We acted swiftly to stop them before they started or were able to grow in size. “Please report any locks which have been broken or removed. Report any vehicles driving off-road, groups of vehicles in rural areas, convoys of vehicles and loud music in remote locations." Not so swift to act when it comes to supporting local residents stop travellers doing the same thing though. kopite_rob
  • Score: 44

2:13pm Mon 30 Jun 14

albionite says...

They should have pretended to be gypsies, they would have been left to get on with it then. A bit rich being arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit a public nuisance, yet the gypsies blatantly commit public nuisance....

Why can't the police use these powers to move the gypsies on?
They should have pretended to be gypsies, they would have been left to get on with it then. A bit rich being arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit a public nuisance, yet the gypsies blatantly commit public nuisance.... Why can't the police use these powers to move the gypsies on? albionite
  • Score: 41

3:41pm Mon 30 Jun 14

eldiablo says...

So the police have got their headline grabbing revenge for 2000 people from Lincolnshire and Norfolk invading our countryside at Devils Dyke and leaving an atrocious mess (and making them look like muppets for not taking action on the night in the process).

Hopefully now they can go back to tolerating small, peaceful gatherings of local people dancing to amplified music in the countryside like they have done for at least the past years. If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion.
So the police have got their headline grabbing revenge for 2000 people from Lincolnshire and Norfolk invading our countryside at Devils Dyke and leaving an atrocious mess (and making them look like muppets for not taking action on the night in the process). Hopefully now they can go back to tolerating small, peaceful gatherings of local people dancing to amplified music in the countryside like they have done for at least the past years. If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion. eldiablo
  • Score: 41

5:09pm Mon 30 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

eldiablo wrote:
So the police have got their headline grabbing revenge for 2000 people from Lincolnshire and Norfolk invading our countryside at Devils Dyke and leaving an atrocious mess (and making them look like muppets for not taking action on the night in the process).

Hopefully now they can go back to tolerating small, peaceful gatherings of local people dancing to amplified music in the countryside like they have done for at least the past years. If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion.
Monitored by who?
[quote][p][bold]eldiablo[/bold] wrote: So the police have got their headline grabbing revenge for 2000 people from Lincolnshire and Norfolk invading our countryside at Devils Dyke and leaving an atrocious mess (and making them look like muppets for not taking action on the night in the process). Hopefully now they can go back to tolerating small, peaceful gatherings of local people dancing to amplified music in the countryside like they have done for at least the past years. If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion.[/p][/quote]Monitored by who? stevo!!
  • Score: -3

6:23pm Mon 30 Jun 14

eldiablo says...

Monitored by one of two officers ensuring the event is safe and not causing disturbance to people in the surrounding area, or damage to the land that is borrowed. Exactly what happened for years and years successfully in Brighton :)
Monitored by one of two officers ensuring the event is safe and not causing disturbance to people in the surrounding area, or damage to the land that is borrowed. Exactly what happened for years and years successfully in Brighton :) eldiablo
  • Score: 11

6:57pm Mon 30 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

eldiablo wrote:
Monitored by one of two officers ensuring the event is safe and not causing disturbance to people in the surrounding area, or damage to the land that is borrowed. Exactly what happened for years and years successfully in Brighton :)
How can two policemen at the venue know what the noise disturbance is to the surrounding countryside?
[quote][p][bold]eldiablo[/bold] wrote: Monitored by one of two officers ensuring the event is safe and not causing disturbance to people in the surrounding area, or damage to the land that is borrowed. Exactly what happened for years and years successfully in Brighton :)[/p][/quote]How can two policemen at the venue know what the noise disturbance is to the surrounding countryside? stevo!!
  • Score: -18

7:02pm Mon 30 Jun 14

eldiablo says...

By whether they recieve any noise complaints?
By whether they recieve any noise complaints? eldiablo
  • Score: 14

7:08pm Mon 30 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

eldiablo wrote:
By whether they recieve any noise complaints?
So the public has to be inconvenienced for God-knows-how long whilst the complaints are looked into (requiring officers attending the scene where the complaints originate) and acted upon.

Lovely!
[quote][p][bold]eldiablo[/bold] wrote: By whether they recieve any noise complaints?[/p][/quote]So the public has to be inconvenienced for God-knows-how long whilst the complaints are looked into (requiring officers attending the scene where the complaints originate) and acted upon. Lovely! stevo!!
  • Score: -14

7:35pm Mon 30 Jun 14

eldiablo says...

The public didnt even know the thriving local party scene existed until it was brought to their attention through this newspaper due to out of towners who have already brought zero tolerance policies to their local areas through a lack of consideration when choosing locations for parties and leaving litter etc. We have cooexisted peacefully with the police and residents for many years and parties have happened every weekend without the knowledge of but a few passing early morning joggers :)
The public didnt even know the thriving local party scene existed until it was brought to their attention through this newspaper due to out of towners who have already brought zero tolerance policies to their local areas through a lack of consideration when choosing locations for parties and leaving litter etc. We have cooexisted peacefully with the police and residents for many years and parties have happened every weekend without the knowledge of but a few passing early morning joggers :) eldiablo
  • Score: 18

7:43pm Mon 30 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

eldiablo wrote:
The public didnt even know the thriving local party scene existed until it was brought to their attention through this newspaper due to out of towners who have already brought zero tolerance policies to their local areas through a lack of consideration when choosing locations for parties and leaving litter etc. We have cooexisted peacefully with the police and residents for many years and parties have happened every weekend without the knowledge of but a few passing early morning joggers :)
So if no-one even knew that a rave was taking place (because you were all being so quiet then tidying up after yourselves) how come we have the present situation whereby the police know where to find raves?
[quote][p][bold]eldiablo[/bold] wrote: The public didnt even know the thriving local party scene existed until it was brought to their attention through this newspaper due to out of towners who have already brought zero tolerance policies to their local areas through a lack of consideration when choosing locations for parties and leaving litter etc. We have cooexisted peacefully with the police and residents for many years and parties have happened every weekend without the knowledge of but a few passing early morning joggers :)[/p][/quote]So if no-one even knew that a rave was taking place (because you were all being so quiet then tidying up after yourselves) how come we have the present situation whereby the police know where to find raves? stevo!!
  • Score: -9

8:02pm Mon 30 Jun 14

eldiablo says...

Because they have to be seen to take action after the events at Devils Dyke, so are throwing enourmous resources into finding them. The police helicopter was up twice at the weekend to locate small groups of people dancing in remote woodland, at a cost of £1700 an hour. Is that a good use of police resources, or could that money be spend tracking down real criminals? You know, the ones who commit crimes that have victims :)
Because they have to be seen to take action after the events at Devils Dyke, so are throwing enourmous resources into finding them. The police helicopter was up twice at the weekend to locate small groups of people dancing in remote woodland, at a cost of £1700 an hour. Is that a good use of police resources, or could that money be spend tracking down real criminals? You know, the ones who commit crimes that have victims :) eldiablo
  • Score: 30

8:09pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Bill in Hanover says...

albionite wrote:
They should have pretended to be gypsies, they would have been left to get on with it then. A bit rich being arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit a public nuisance, yet the gypsies blatantly commit public nuisance....

Why can't the police use these powers to move the gypsies on?
The police can only issue a section 61 notice if there is a threat from the travellers, but it is our Council who allow these people to set up illegal camps and why should the police interfere when our Beloved Leader stated during his Q&A on travellers that he'd like our urban spaces made into 'traveller friendly areas' where they could set up camps without the worry of eviction. Is it any wonder we get illegal camps of up to 40 caravans. And it isn't only the Gypsies who are a nuisance, New Age travellers have bulldozed an earthen embankment (or our Council did it) and hacked down a hedge to the west of Wilson Avenue and set up camp there.
[quote][p][bold]albionite[/bold] wrote: They should have pretended to be gypsies, they would have been left to get on with it then. A bit rich being arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit a public nuisance, yet the gypsies blatantly commit public nuisance.... Why can't the police use these powers to move the gypsies on?[/p][/quote]The police can only issue a section 61 notice if there is a threat from the travellers, but it is our Council who allow these people to set up illegal camps and why should the police interfere when our Beloved Leader stated during his Q&A on travellers that he'd like our urban spaces made into 'traveller friendly areas' where they could set up camps without the worry of eviction. Is it any wonder we get illegal camps of up to 40 caravans. And it isn't only the Gypsies who are a nuisance, New Age travellers have bulldozed an earthen embankment (or our Council did it) and hacked down a hedge to the west of Wilson Avenue and set up camp there. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 7

8:10pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Bill in Hanover says...

'Police attended, seized the sound equipment and arrested three men.' Why wasn't the same done at the Devil's Dyke a few weeks ago?
'Police attended, seized the sound equipment and arrested three men.' Why wasn't the same done at the Devil's Dyke a few weeks ago? Bill in Hanover
  • Score: -5

8:17pm Mon 30 Jun 14

nissancars says...

albionite wrote:
They should have pretended to be gypsies, they would have been left to get on with it then. A bit rich being arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit a public nuisance, yet the gypsies blatantly commit public nuisance....

Why can't the police use these powers to move the gypsies on?
the travellers and the gypsies are two completely different people.please stop tarring gypsies as they are hard working people who cause no hassle,theft or damage when they have been in town. travellers have earned their name for leaving the places they stay a mess and commiting all sorts of criminal acts on the places they stay.
[quote][p][bold]albionite[/bold] wrote: They should have pretended to be gypsies, they would have been left to get on with it then. A bit rich being arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit a public nuisance, yet the gypsies blatantly commit public nuisance.... Why can't the police use these powers to move the gypsies on?[/p][/quote]the travellers and the gypsies are two completely different people.please stop tarring gypsies as they are hard working people who cause no hassle,theft or damage when they have been in town. travellers have earned their name for leaving the places they stay a mess and commiting all sorts of criminal acts on the places they stay. nissancars
  • Score: -3

8:19pm Mon 30 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

eldiablo wrote:
Because they have to be seen to take action after the events at Devils Dyke, so are throwing enourmous resources into finding them. The police helicopter was up twice at the weekend to locate small groups of people dancing in remote woodland, at a cost of £1700 an hour. Is that a good use of police resources, or could that money be spend tracking down real criminals? You know, the ones who commit crimes that have victims :)
So the police just 'happened' to be flying in their helicopter and spotted these four raves?

Funny, but the report clearly quotes one police officer as stating:

""These calls came in thanks to members of the public who were concerned and alerted us to the potential raves. We acted swiftly to stop them before they started or were able to grow in size."

So your claim:

" throwing enourmous resources into finding them."

has no basis in reality.

The fact is that if a rave wasn't disturbing anyone, no-one would know about it.
[quote][p][bold]eldiablo[/bold] wrote: Because they have to be seen to take action after the events at Devils Dyke, so are throwing enourmous resources into finding them. The police helicopter was up twice at the weekend to locate small groups of people dancing in remote woodland, at a cost of £1700 an hour. Is that a good use of police resources, or could that money be spend tracking down real criminals? You know, the ones who commit crimes that have victims :)[/p][/quote]So the police just 'happened' to be flying in their helicopter and spotted these four raves? Funny, but the report clearly quotes one police officer as stating: ""These calls came in thanks to members of the public who were concerned and alerted us to the potential raves. We acted swiftly to stop them before they started or were able to grow in size." So your claim: " throwing enourmous resources into finding them." has no basis in reality. The fact is that if a rave wasn't disturbing anyone, no-one would know about it. stevo!!
  • Score: -11

8:34pm Mon 30 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

"please stop tarring gypsies as they are hard working people who cause no hassle,theft or damage when they have been in town."

Hahahahahahahahahaha etc.......
"please stop tarring gypsies as they are hard working people who cause no hassle,theft or damage when they have been in town." Hahahahahahahahahaha etc....... stevo!!
  • Score: -2

9:20pm Mon 30 Jun 14

jackthekipper says...

why bother,its a waste of resources,its summer there will be a few raves then itll pass,nobody will be injured and the public purse will be intact to spend on more worthwhile causes,threats or problemsnamely gypsys,andstreet crime.
why bother,its a waste of resources,its summer there will be a few raves then itll pass,nobody will be injured and the public purse will be intact to spend on more worthwhile causes,threats or problemsnamely gypsys,andstreet crime. jackthekipper
  • Score: 10

10:06pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

So where do these ravers go to the toilet and where do the women dispose of any tampons when they are raving?
Do they take their poo and waste home with them or just do it on the land for the local volunteers to clear up?
Why don't they pay to go to the dozens of festivals held across the UK or at least shell out for some bogs?
So where do these ravers go to the toilet and where do the women dispose of any tampons when they are raving? Do they take their poo and waste home with them or just do it on the land for the local volunteers to clear up? Why don't they pay to go to the dozens of festivals held across the UK or at least shell out for some bogs? Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -9

10:45pm Mon 30 Jun 14

eldiablo says...

Maybe some people can still hold it in til they get home Maxwell's Ghost, not everyones as anally retentive as you ;) and i was one of the local volunteers cleaning up after the devils dyke fiasco btw :)
Maybe some people can still hold it in til they get home Maxwell's Ghost, not everyones as anally retentive as you ;) and i was one of the local volunteers cleaning up after the devils dyke fiasco btw :) eldiablo
  • Score: 8

10:50pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Helen Ariel says...

Omg I've never heard of a woman changing a tampon at a rave and what does a bear do? There are perfectly discrete places to use the loo in the countryside...get a grip it's biodegradable!
Omg I've never heard of a woman changing a tampon at a rave and what does a bear do? There are perfectly discrete places to use the loo in the countryside...get a grip it's biodegradable! Helen Ariel
  • Score: 9

11:38pm Mon 30 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

eldiablo wrote:
Maybe some people can still hold it in til they get home Maxwell's Ghost, not everyones as anally retentive as you ;) and i was one of the local volunteers cleaning up after the devils dyke fiasco btw :)
Are you the one who claimed that the ravers don't leave a mess???
[quote][p][bold]eldiablo[/bold] wrote: Maybe some people can still hold it in til they get home Maxwell's Ghost, not everyones as anally retentive as you ;) and i was one of the local volunteers cleaning up after the devils dyke fiasco btw :)[/p][/quote]Are you the one who claimed that the ravers don't leave a mess??? stevo!!
  • Score: -7

11:44pm Mon 30 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

eldiablo wrote:

" If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion."

The same person admitted to returning to the Devil's Dyke to clear litter left after a rave.



Jeez.....
eldiablo wrote: " If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion." The same person admitted to returning to the Devil's Dyke to clear litter left after a rave. Jeez..... stevo!!
  • Score: -7

12:56am Tue 1 Jul 14

eldiablo says...

stevo!! wrote:
eldiablo wrote:

" If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion."

The same person admitted to returning to the Devil's Dyke to clear litter left after a rave.



Jeez.....
the party at devils dyke has nothing to do with the local party scene... and 2000 people ripping down fences to desecrate a beauty spot is totally different to a few hundred people partying in a field then disappearing at sunrise
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: eldiablo wrote: " If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion." The same person admitted to returning to the Devil's Dyke to clear litter left after a rave. Jeez.....[/p][/quote]the party at devils dyke has nothing to do with the local party scene... and 2000 people ripping down fences to desecrate a beauty spot is totally different to a few hundred people partying in a field then disappearing at sunrise eldiablo
  • Score: 3

12:56am Tue 1 Jul 14

eldiablo says...

stevo!! wrote:
eldiablo wrote:

" If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion."

The same person admitted to returning to the Devil's Dyke to clear litter left after a rave.



Jeez.....
the party at devils dyke has nothing to do with the local party scene... and 2000 people ripping down fences to desecrate a beauty spot is totally different to a few hundred people partying in a field then disappearing at sunrise
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: eldiablo wrote: " If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion." The same person admitted to returning to the Devil's Dyke to clear litter left after a rave. Jeez.....[/p][/quote]the party at devils dyke has nothing to do with the local party scene... and 2000 people ripping down fences to desecrate a beauty spot is totally different to a few hundred people partying in a field then disappearing at sunrise eldiablo
  • Score: 3

12:56am Tue 1 Jul 14

eldiablo says...

stevo!! wrote:
eldiablo wrote:

" If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion."

The same person admitted to returning to the Devil's Dyke to clear litter left after a rave.



Jeez.....
the party at devils dyke has nothing to do with the local party scene... and 2000 people ripping down fences to desecrate a beauty spot is totally different to a few hundred people partying in a field then disappearing at sunrise
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: eldiablo wrote: " If there are no noise complaints, no damage, and no litter, why risk causing a public order situation by attempting to close down an event that can easily be monitored without intervention and left to reach its natural conclusion." The same person admitted to returning to the Devil's Dyke to clear litter left after a rave. Jeez.....[/p][/quote]the party at devils dyke has nothing to do with the local party scene... and 2000 people ripping down fences to desecrate a beauty spot is totally different to a few hundred people partying in a field then disappearing at sunrise eldiablo
  • Score: 2

7:10am Tue 1 Jul 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Yeah, yeah of course they all take little survival kits with them and dig miniature toilets to bury their waste. The photos from the site showed a very different picture. Dirty devils. Go and get an enema before you party or pay for some loos.
Yeah, yeah of course they all take little survival kits with them and dig miniature toilets to bury their waste. The photos from the site showed a very different picture. Dirty devils. Go and get an enema before you party or pay for some loos. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -7

11:45am Tue 1 Jul 14

voiceofthescoombe says...

Thats the problem though the idiots at devils dyke did cause a massive amount of damage to a nature reserve . Thats why the crackdown has happened. Unfair possibly but perfectly understandable.
Thats the problem though the idiots at devils dyke did cause a massive amount of damage to a nature reserve . Thats why the crackdown has happened. Unfair possibly but perfectly understandable. voiceofthescoombe
  • Score: 4

3:11pm Wed 2 Jul 14

blacktopsoldier says...

go have your raves wherever the travellers or any other illegal camps are set up
I've been some distance from some off these raves and had to put up with hearing just the bass! there is a noise pollution act, and btw, the travellers don't have to be a threat for sec.61 to be used. go read it .
go have your raves wherever the travellers or any other illegal camps are set up I've been some distance from some off these raves and had to put up with hearing just the bass! there is a noise pollution act, and btw, the travellers don't have to be a threat for sec.61 to be used. go read it . blacktopsoldier
  • Score: 0

3:14pm Wed 2 Jul 14

blacktopsoldier says...

I don't have a problem with the raves setting-up anywhere the illegal encampments are not moved on immediately
I don't have a problem with the raves setting-up anywhere the illegal encampments are not moved on immediately blacktopsoldier
  • Score: 0
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