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Do you know these people? Police release March for England mug shots

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By Rachel Millard Crime Reporter

Mugshots of people police want to speak to about a violent clash at this year’s March for England have been released.

Thugs fought in Brighton city centre after the nationalist march and counter-protest at the seafront on April 27.

Nationalists and anti-fascists hurled furniture and glasses at each other shortly after 2pm at the junction of North Street and Gardner Street, between The Dorset pub and Infinity Foods.

One of the largest police operations Brighton and Hove had ever seen was assembled to separate a total of 150 nationalists from 1,000-plus anti-fascists on the day of the march.

Now police are urging the public to help them trace those pictured to speak to them about the incident between the pub and food store.

Detective Inspector Vicki Harris said she believed some of the people photographed were from Sheffield, while others could be from elsewhere in the country.

She added: “We know someone will recognise these men and women and we are appealing to those people to give us a name.”

Twenty-seven people were arrested on the day of the march connected to some disorder in the city. Six people have been charged and seven fined or cautioned.

Those due to stand trial over disorder on the day: · Richard Kemp, 39, of Gibbet Street, Halifax: charged with using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with intent, trial August 14 · Adam Barr, 22, of no fixed address: charged with assaulting a police officer, trial on Aug 11 · Alex Connolly, 24, of Forest Hill Way, Southampton, charged withfailing to remove an item from her face, trial September 18 · Scott Horwood, 49, of South Terrace, Littlehampton: charged with common assault · Susanah Mengesha, 32: charged with common assault, trial September 23 · Melanie Arnold,44, of Hughenden Road, Hastings: charged with causing harassment, alarm or distress, trial on September 24 Already dealt with are: · Christopher Voice, 49, of Angmering Way, Rustington, West Sussex, pleaded guilty to causing racially or religiously aggravated harassment, alarm or distress in Grand Junction Road. He was fined £225 and has been ordered to pay a £25 victim surcharge and £85 costs.

· A 21-year-old man from Portsmouth, drunk and disorderly, fixed penalty notice.

· A 39-year-old man from Fareham, drunk and disorderly, fixed penalty notice.

· A 37-year-old man from Hove, drunk and disorderly, caution.

· A 17-year-old boy of no fixed address, obstructing police, youth caution.

· A 28-year-old man from Bristol, suspicion of affray, fixed penalty notice.

· A 35-year-old from Brighton, suspicion of possession of a class A drug, caution.

If anyone has any details on the fight or recognises anyone please contact police on 101 or email 101@sussex.pnn.police.uk quoting Operation Bearwood.

Or contact Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

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6:32am Wed 9 Jul 14

JHunty says...

I recognise, HJARRS Gribbet Eugenius and Stevo. There you go easy. Funny how HJARRS and Andy R started to come over all UKIP about the march, telling us that non local people had no right to come to Brighton with their funny non local beliefs and customs, disrespecting the locals way of life.
Of course the majority of the counter protestors weren't local either but Andy R likes to pretend this event consists of locals rising up as one against the fascist horde.
It was clear from the video that it was the anti fascists trying to beat people up after the march that started this fight.
I recognise, HJARRS Gribbet Eugenius and Stevo. There you go easy. Funny how HJARRS and Andy R started to come over all UKIP about the march, telling us that non local people had no right to come to Brighton with their funny non local beliefs and customs, disrespecting the locals way of life. Of course the majority of the counter protestors weren't local either but Andy R likes to pretend this event consists of locals rising up as one against the fascist horde. It was clear from the video that it was the anti fascists trying to beat people up after the march that started this fight. JHunty
  • Score: 0

7:59am Wed 9 Jul 14

Boshay says...

A magnifying glass might help ...
A magnifying glass might help ... Boshay
  • Score: 33

8:24am Wed 9 Jul 14

hoveguyactually says...

Are we really expected to recognise anyone from such tiny pictures?
Are we really expected to recognise anyone from such tiny pictures? hoveguyactually
  • Score: 27

9:37am Wed 9 Jul 14

Ambo Guy says...

I'm sure I saw Ben Duncan in one of the photos. He's the one with the anti British Army sign in his hand!
I'm sure I saw Ben Duncan in one of the photos. He's the one with the anti British Army sign in his hand! Ambo Guy
  • Score: 16

10:15am Wed 9 Jul 14

Dan Gleballs says...

Be11ends V Be11ends
Be11ends V Be11ends Dan Gleballs
  • Score: 6

10:37am Wed 9 Jul 14

Fight_Back says...

Note how few B&H addresses there are ! Proves both sides of mindless idiots bus their thugs in despite the anti's claiming to be locally based people.
Note how few B&H addresses there are ! Proves both sides of mindless idiots bus their thugs in despite the anti's claiming to be locally based people. Fight_Back
  • Score: 11

11:22am Wed 9 Jul 14

Saltdean Resident says...

So out if the 27 charged, one is from Hove and one from Brighton. The rest from all over the country proving that Brighton is being used by people from outside the city for a seaside ruck. How about making sure both groups have to cover policing costs, that might stop them from coming. If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em, after a couple of years they would both give up and we can get on with our own lives.
So out if the 27 charged, one is from Hove and one from Brighton. The rest from all over the country proving that Brighton is being used by people from outside the city for a seaside ruck. How about making sure both groups have to cover policing costs, that might stop them from coming. If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em, after a couple of years they would both give up and we can get on with our own lives. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 17

12:03pm Wed 9 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

I have to admit to being shocked to learn that an Englishman is living in Gibbet Street, Halifax.......it used to be an area that we whites used to avoid even walking through. Has Halifax enjoyed a Renaissance of some kind?

A lot of the antis claimed to be local residents, and probably were, but the thugs among them will have come from all over the country, thanks to the UAF etc advertising for attendees to basically prevent the March using any means.

Only one person charged with anything 'racially-motivated'
? Funny, but the UAF were there because the Marchers were English - isn't that motivated along national lines and therefore an offence in itself? Ask yourself how many of them celebrated St Patrick's Day on those very streets a month earlier.

As for the trouble outside The Dorset, other videos taken in the 15 minutes prior to this one clearly show who were the troublemakers - the little 'tough guys' in black hoodies. The patriots obviously felt threatened because of the numbers, not because of their 'hardness' ( the UAF I encountered were weedy little things) and reacted accordingly.
I have to admit to being shocked to learn that an Englishman is living in Gibbet Street, Halifax.......it used to be an area that we whites used to avoid even walking through. Has Halifax enjoyed a Renaissance of some kind? A lot of the antis claimed to be local residents, and probably were, but the thugs among them will have come from all over the country, thanks to the UAF etc advertising for attendees to basically prevent the March using any means. Only one person charged with anything 'racially-motivated' ? Funny, but the UAF were there because the Marchers were English - isn't that motivated along national lines and therefore an offence in itself? Ask yourself how many of them celebrated St Patrick's Day on those very streets a month earlier. As for the trouble outside The Dorset, other videos taken in the 15 minutes prior to this one clearly show who were the troublemakers - the little 'tough guys' in black hoodies. The patriots obviously felt threatened because of the numbers, not because of their 'hardness' ( the UAF I encountered were weedy little things) and reacted accordingly. stevo!!
  • Score: -5

12:10pm Wed 9 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Boshay wrote:
A magnifying glass might help ...
I hear that far too often.....
[quote][p][bold]Boshay[/bold] wrote: A magnifying glass might help ...[/p][/quote]I hear that far too often..... stevo!!
  • Score: 10

12:13pm Wed 9 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

JHunty wrote:
I recognise, HJARRS Gribbet Eugenius and Stevo. There you go easy. Funny how HJARRS and Andy R started to come over all UKIP about the march, telling us that non local people had no right to come to Brighton with their funny non local beliefs and customs, disrespecting the locals way of life.
Of course the majority of the counter protestors weren't local either but Andy R likes to pretend this event consists of locals rising up as one against the fascist horde.
It was clear from the video that it was the anti fascists trying to beat people up after the march that started this fight.
Were there any fascists in Brighton that day?

Funny how no-one has been charged with 'fascist-related' offences.

Try not to make the basic 'error' of equating 'patriotism' with 'fascism', because you are slandering billions of people from across the globe.
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: I recognise, HJARRS Gribbet Eugenius and Stevo. There you go easy. Funny how HJARRS and Andy R started to come over all UKIP about the march, telling us that non local people had no right to come to Brighton with their funny non local beliefs and customs, disrespecting the locals way of life. Of course the majority of the counter protestors weren't local either but Andy R likes to pretend this event consists of locals rising up as one against the fascist horde. It was clear from the video that it was the anti fascists trying to beat people up after the march that started this fight.[/p][/quote]Were there any fascists in Brighton that day? Funny how no-one has been charged with 'fascist-related' offences. Try not to make the basic 'error' of equating 'patriotism' with 'fascism', because you are slandering billions of people from across the globe. stevo!!
  • Score: -6

1:02pm Wed 9 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

" If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em,"

So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day?

Basically, that is what the MFE started out as.

I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.
" If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em," So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day? Basically, that is what the MFE started out as. I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots. stevo!!
  • Score: -5

1:17pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Fight_Back says...

stevo!! wrote:
" If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em,"

So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day?

Basically, that is what the MFE started out as.

I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.
This will be the same 'nice, and patriotic' MFE who's members thought the Royal Pavilion was a mosque ? If you total up their combined shoe sizes it comes to more than their combined IQs.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em," So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day? Basically, that is what the MFE started out as. I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.[/p][/quote]This will be the same 'nice, and patriotic' MFE who's members thought the Royal Pavilion was a mosque ? If you total up their combined shoe sizes it comes to more than their combined IQs. Fight_Back
  • Score: 7

1:24pm Wed 9 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Fight_Back wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
" If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em,"

So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day?

Basically, that is what the MFE started out as.

I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.
This will be the same 'nice, and patriotic' MFE who's members thought the Royal Pavilion was a mosque ? If you total up their combined shoe sizes it comes to more than their combined IQs.
People can be forgiven for thinking that the Pavilion is a mosque. Various buildings have become mosques, even former churches, so anything that looks 'foreign' (which is what the Pavilion was designed to do) could be taken to be a mosque.

As for commenting upon their intelligence in such a derogatory and ill-informed way, I should remind you that you recently posted the opinion that The Amex stadium is actually a public thoroughfare.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em," So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day? Basically, that is what the MFE started out as. I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.[/p][/quote]This will be the same 'nice, and patriotic' MFE who's members thought the Royal Pavilion was a mosque ? If you total up their combined shoe sizes it comes to more than their combined IQs.[/p][/quote]People can be forgiven for thinking that the Pavilion is a mosque. Various buildings have become mosques, even former churches, so anything that looks 'foreign' (which is what the Pavilion was designed to do) could be taken to be a mosque. As for commenting upon their intelligence in such a derogatory and ill-informed way, I should remind you that you recently posted the opinion that The Amex stadium is actually a public thoroughfare. HTH stevo!!
  • Score: -9

2:03pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Saltdean Resident says...

stevo!! wrote:
" If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em,"

So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day?

Basically, that is what the MFE started out as.

I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.
Even when there is an official demo only 150 turn out, very very small swamp.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em," So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day? Basically, that is what the MFE started out as. I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.[/p][/quote]Even when there is an official demo only 150 turn out, very very small swamp. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 4

3:04pm Wed 9 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Saltdean Resident wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
" If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em,"

So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day?

Basically, that is what the MFE started out as.

I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.
Even when there is an official demo only 150 turn out, very very small swamp.
But I was talking about what would happen should the action of holding an England flag become illegal.

What a shame I had to point that out.
[quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em," So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day? Basically, that is what the MFE started out as. I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.[/p][/quote]Even when there is an official demo only 150 turn out, very very small swamp.[/p][/quote]But I was talking about what would happen should the action of holding an England flag become illegal. What a shame I had to point that out. stevo!!
  • Score: -5

4:19pm Wed 9 Jul 14

ruberducker says...

How can you br charged for failing to remove an item from your face.....
What about the muslims...
How can you br charged for failing to remove an item from your face..... What about the muslims... ruberducker
  • Score: 2

5:59pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Fight_Back says...

stevo!! wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
" If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em,"

So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day?

Basically, that is what the MFE started out as.

I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.
This will be the same 'nice, and patriotic' MFE who's members thought the Royal Pavilion was a mosque ? If you total up their combined shoe sizes it comes to more than their combined IQs.
People can be forgiven for thinking that the Pavilion is a mosque. Various buildings have become mosques, even former churches, so anything that looks 'foreign' (which is what the Pavilion was designed to do) could be taken to be a mosque.

As for commenting upon their intelligence in such a derogatory and ill-informed way, I should remind you that you recently posted the opinion that The Amex stadium is actually a public thoroughfare.

HTH
It's a world famous building - apparently these so called patriots are so well versed on English history they didn't understand what this building was ??? Pull the other one. It shows they're as thick as s**t.

As for the Amex comment, I'd suggest you learn to read and digest what is written rather than what you mistakenly 'think' is written.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em," So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day? Basically, that is what the MFE started out as. I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.[/p][/quote]This will be the same 'nice, and patriotic' MFE who's members thought the Royal Pavilion was a mosque ? If you total up their combined shoe sizes it comes to more than their combined IQs.[/p][/quote]People can be forgiven for thinking that the Pavilion is a mosque. Various buildings have become mosques, even former churches, so anything that looks 'foreign' (which is what the Pavilion was designed to do) could be taken to be a mosque. As for commenting upon their intelligence in such a derogatory and ill-informed way, I should remind you that you recently posted the opinion that The Amex stadium is actually a public thoroughfare. HTH[/p][/quote]It's a world famous building - apparently these so called patriots are so well versed on English history they didn't understand what this building was ??? Pull the other one. It shows they're as thick as s**t. As for the Amex comment, I'd suggest you learn to read and digest what is written rather than what you mistakenly 'think' is written. Fight_Back
  • Score: 7

6:32pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Saltdean Resident says...

stevo!! wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
" If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em,"

So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day?

Basically, that is what the MFE started out as.

I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.
Even when there is an official demo only 150 turn out, very very small swamp.
But I was talking about what would happen should the action of holding an England flag become illegal.

What a shame I had to point that out.
I didn't say anything about making the holding aloft of any flag illegal, I mentioned march and counter demo pay for the policing. As always you twist what other people say to fit your own agenda. And also as always the majority of your comments attract negative thumbs, says a lot about you and your very very small bunch of so called 'patriots'.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em," So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day? Basically, that is what the MFE started out as. I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.[/p][/quote]Even when there is an official demo only 150 turn out, very very small swamp.[/p][/quote]But I was talking about what would happen should the action of holding an England flag become illegal. What a shame I had to point that out.[/p][/quote]I didn't say anything about making the holding aloft of any flag illegal, I mentioned march and counter demo pay for the policing. As always you twist what other people say to fit your own agenda. And also as always the majority of your comments attract negative thumbs, says a lot about you and your very very small bunch of so called 'patriots'. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 6

7:39pm Wed 9 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

"It's a world famous building - apparently these so called patriots are so well versed on English history they didn't understand what this building was ??? Pull the other one. It shows they're as thick as s**t."

How many people who turned up for the MFE actually stated that the Pavilion is a mosque?

As many as none, perhaps?

Even if a couple enquired as to whether or not it is a mosque:

1) They do not speak for everyone on the March.

2) They had a perfect right to make that enquiry because it showed that they have the intelligence to spot an Oriental design.

Oh, and not everyone in the world or even the UK will have heard of the Pavilion.

"As for the Amex comment, I'd suggest you learn to read and digest what is written rather than what you mistakenly 'think' is written."

I did.

You suggested that Rod Stewart charging for admission to The Amex is exactly the same as charging people for accessing a public highway with regard to engendering negative feelings towards those making the charge.

The obvious flaw in your argument is that The Amex isn't a public highway.
"It's a world famous building - apparently these so called patriots are so well versed on English history they didn't understand what this building was ??? Pull the other one. It shows they're as thick as s**t." How many people who turned up for the MFE actually stated that the Pavilion is a mosque? As many as none, perhaps? Even if a couple enquired as to whether or not it is a mosque: 1) They do not speak for everyone on the March. 2) They had a perfect right to make that enquiry because it showed that they have the intelligence to spot an Oriental design. Oh, and not everyone in the world or even the UK will have heard of the Pavilion. "As for the Amex comment, I'd suggest you learn to read and digest what is written rather than what you mistakenly 'think' is written." I did. You suggested that Rod Stewart charging for admission to The Amex is exactly the same as charging people for accessing a public highway with regard to engendering negative feelings towards those making the charge. The obvious flaw in your argument is that The Amex isn't a public highway. stevo!!
  • Score: -4

7:47pm Wed 9 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

"I didn't say anything about making the holding aloft of any flag illegal,"

No-one claimed that you had.

I asked a question based on your wish that if the MFE couldn't fund the costs incurred in policing it, then the march shouldn't be allowed.

I was wondering how you that would be possible, seeing as the patriots could easily turn up in Brighton, holding their flags, and have a day out at the seaside without being bothered by anyone wearing black, because carrying our flag isn't an offence.

"As always you twist what other people say to fit your own agenda."

Don't blame me for pointing out flaws and errors in what others have written.

" And also as always the majority of your comments attract negative thumbs, says a lot about you and your very very small bunch of so called 'patriots'."

I see thumbs down as a sign that I'm right and that people don't like being told the truth.

Patriotism is this country is very popular, and the numbers of self-loathing Brits is relatively tiny. The fact that the UAF had to advertise for support across the country yet only mustered a few hundred shows that.
"I didn't say anything about making the holding aloft of any flag illegal," No-one claimed that you had. I asked a question based on your wish that if the MFE couldn't fund the costs incurred in policing it, then the march shouldn't be allowed. I was wondering how you that would be possible, seeing as the patriots could easily turn up in Brighton, holding their flags, and have a day out at the seaside without being bothered by anyone wearing black, because carrying our flag isn't an offence. "As always you twist what other people say to fit your own agenda." Don't blame me for pointing out flaws and errors in what others have written. " And also as always the majority of your comments attract negative thumbs, says a lot about you and your very very small bunch of so called 'patriots'." I see thumbs down as a sign that I'm right and that people don't like being told the truth. Patriotism is this country is very popular, and the numbers of self-loathing Brits is relatively tiny. The fact that the UAF had to advertise for support across the country yet only mustered a few hundred shows that. stevo!!
  • Score: -3

10:08pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Saltdean Resident says...

stevo!! wrote:
"I didn't say anything about making the holding aloft of any flag illegal,"

No-one claimed that you had.

I asked a question based on your wish that if the MFE couldn't fund the costs incurred in policing it, then the march shouldn't be allowed.

I was wondering how you that would be possible, seeing as the patriots could easily turn up in Brighton, holding their flags, and have a day out at the seaside without being bothered by anyone wearing black, because carrying our flag isn't an offence.

"As always you twist what other people say to fit your own agenda."

Don't blame me for pointing out flaws and errors in what others have written.

" And also as always the majority of your comments attract negative thumbs, says a lot about you and your very very small bunch of so called 'patriots'."

I see thumbs down as a sign that I'm right and that people don't like being told the truth.

Patriotism is this country is very popular, and the numbers of self-loathing Brits is relatively tiny. The fact that the UAF had to advertise for support across the country yet only mustered a few hundred shows that.
Thank you for proving my point.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "I didn't say anything about making the holding aloft of any flag illegal," No-one claimed that you had. I asked a question based on your wish that if the MFE couldn't fund the costs incurred in policing it, then the march shouldn't be allowed. I was wondering how you that would be possible, seeing as the patriots could easily turn up in Brighton, holding their flags, and have a day out at the seaside without being bothered by anyone wearing black, because carrying our flag isn't an offence. "As always you twist what other people say to fit your own agenda." Don't blame me for pointing out flaws and errors in what others have written. " And also as always the majority of your comments attract negative thumbs, says a lot about you and your very very small bunch of so called 'patriots'." I see thumbs down as a sign that I'm right and that people don't like being told the truth. Patriotism is this country is very popular, and the numbers of self-loathing Brits is relatively tiny. The fact that the UAF had to advertise for support across the country yet only mustered a few hundred shows that.[/p][/quote]Thank you for proving my point. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 1

10:56pm Wed 9 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Saltdean Resident wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
"I didn't say anything about making the holding aloft of any flag illegal,"

No-one claimed that you had.

I asked a question based on your wish that if the MFE couldn't fund the costs incurred in policing it, then the march shouldn't be allowed.

I was wondering how you that would be possible, seeing as the patriots could easily turn up in Brighton, holding their flags, and have a day out at the seaside without being bothered by anyone wearing black, because carrying our flag isn't an offence.

"As always you twist what other people say to fit your own agenda."

Don't blame me for pointing out flaws and errors in what others have written.

" And also as always the majority of your comments attract negative thumbs, says a lot about you and your very very small bunch of so called 'patriots'."

I see thumbs down as a sign that I'm right and that people don't like being told the truth.

Patriotism is this country is very popular, and the numbers of self-loathing Brits is relatively tiny. The fact that the UAF had to advertise for support across the country yet only mustered a few hundred shows that.
Thank you for proving my point.
Your point being that you admit to making comments that make no sense, that you make false accusations about others, and that when your comments are discussed, you're unable to support them?

I think you proved that yourself, but thanks for your thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "I didn't say anything about making the holding aloft of any flag illegal," No-one claimed that you had. I asked a question based on your wish that if the MFE couldn't fund the costs incurred in policing it, then the march shouldn't be allowed. I was wondering how you that would be possible, seeing as the patriots could easily turn up in Brighton, holding their flags, and have a day out at the seaside without being bothered by anyone wearing black, because carrying our flag isn't an offence. "As always you twist what other people say to fit your own agenda." Don't blame me for pointing out flaws and errors in what others have written. " And also as always the majority of your comments attract negative thumbs, says a lot about you and your very very small bunch of so called 'patriots'." I see thumbs down as a sign that I'm right and that people don't like being told the truth. Patriotism is this country is very popular, and the numbers of self-loathing Brits is relatively tiny. The fact that the UAF had to advertise for support across the country yet only mustered a few hundred shows that.[/p][/quote]Thank you for proving my point.[/p][/quote]Your point being that you admit to making comments that make no sense, that you make false accusations about others, and that when your comments are discussed, you're unable to support them? I think you proved that yourself, but thanks for your thanks. stevo!!
  • Score: -1

5:22am Thu 10 Jul 14

JoeBlow says...

H is called Marty Feldman.
H is called Marty Feldman. JoeBlow
  • Score: 0

10:59am Thu 10 Jul 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

stevo!! wrote:
"It's a world famous building - apparently these so called patriots are so well versed on English history they didn't understand what this building was ??? Pull the other one. It shows they're as thick as s**t."

How many people who turned up for the MFE actually stated that the Pavilion is a mosque?

As many as none, perhaps?

Even if a couple enquired as to whether or not it is a mosque:

1) They do not speak for everyone on the March.

2) They had a perfect right to make that enquiry because it showed that they have the intelligence to spot an Oriental design.

Oh, and not everyone in the world or even the UK will have heard of the Pavilion.

"As for the Amex comment, I'd suggest you learn to read and digest what is written rather than what you mistakenly 'think' is written."

I did.

You suggested that Rod Stewart charging for admission to The Amex is exactly the same as charging people for accessing a public highway with regard to engendering negative feelings towards those making the charge.

The obvious flaw in your argument is that The Amex isn't a public highway.
Number two in your list is probably the funniest thing I have heard all week. "They had the intelligence to spot an oriental design."

Mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha! Even a five year old kid would know that. Comedy gold.

I suggest the police contact Stevo AKA Gary Baldy who is one of the organisers. I'm sure he knows your fellas in Sheffield. Or just look out for blokes in flat caps waiting in the dole queue.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "It's a world famous building - apparently these so called patriots are so well versed on English history they didn't understand what this building was ??? Pull the other one. It shows they're as thick as s**t." How many people who turned up for the MFE actually stated that the Pavilion is a mosque? As many as none, perhaps? Even if a couple enquired as to whether or not it is a mosque: 1) They do not speak for everyone on the March. 2) They had a perfect right to make that enquiry because it showed that they have the intelligence to spot an Oriental design. Oh, and not everyone in the world or even the UK will have heard of the Pavilion. "As for the Amex comment, I'd suggest you learn to read and digest what is written rather than what you mistakenly 'think' is written." I did. You suggested that Rod Stewart charging for admission to The Amex is exactly the same as charging people for accessing a public highway with regard to engendering negative feelings towards those making the charge. The obvious flaw in your argument is that The Amex isn't a public highway.[/p][/quote]Number two in your list is probably the funniest thing I have heard all week. "They had the intelligence to spot an oriental design." Mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha! Even a five year old kid would know that. Comedy gold. I suggest the police contact Stevo AKA Gary Baldy who is one of the organisers. I'm sure he knows your fellas in Sheffield. Or just look out for blokes in flat caps waiting in the dole queue. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 0

11:05am Thu 10 Jul 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

Saltdean Resident wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
" If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em,"

So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day?

Basically, that is what the MFE started out as.

I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.
Even when there is an official demo only 150 turn out, very very small swamp.
150 from millions of people across the UK. It's pretty pathetic. I'd call it a puddle rather than a swamp.
[quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " If they can't cover costs don't allow demo or counter demo, if they turn up nick em," So you'd make it an offence to carry an England flag on the streets of Brighton around the time of St George's Day? Basically, that is what the MFE started out as. I tell you, if such an act were made illegal, the city would be swamped with patriots.[/p][/quote]Even when there is an official demo only 150 turn out, very very small swamp.[/p][/quote]150 from millions of people across the UK. It's pretty pathetic. I'd call it a puddle rather than a swamp. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 0

11:15am Thu 10 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

"Number two in your list is probably the funniest thing I have heard all week. "They had the intelligence to spot an oriental design."

Mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha! Even a five year old kid would know that. Comedy gold."

So you'll basically laugh at anything even when agreeing that the Oriental design of the Pavilion is obvious.

"I suggest the police contact Stevo AKA Gary Baldy who is one of the organisers. "

I have nothing to do with the organisation of these events, but thanks for admitting how desperate you are.

"150 from millions of people across the UK. It's pretty pathetic."

Various factors would have limited attendance, and the figure doesn't reflect English patriotism.

Only a stupid person would claim that it did......thanks for yet another admission.
"Number two in your list is probably the funniest thing I have heard all week. "They had the intelligence to spot an oriental design." Mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha! Even a five year old kid would know that. Comedy gold." So you'll basically laugh at anything even when agreeing that the Oriental design of the Pavilion is obvious. "I suggest the police contact Stevo AKA Gary Baldy who is one of the organisers. " I have nothing to do with the organisation of these events, but thanks for admitting how desperate you are. "150 from millions of people across the UK. It's pretty pathetic." Various factors would have limited attendance, and the figure doesn't reflect English patriotism. Only a stupid person would claim that it did......thanks for yet another admission. stevo!!
  • Score: -1

11:21am Thu 10 Jul 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Note how few B&H addresses there are ! Proves both sides of mindless idiots bus their thugs in despite the anti's claiming to be locally based people.
The antis in the photos are all pretty young - probably at that student rebellion stage in their lives. It is likely they will grow out of it. But the MfE ones are all blokes in the their forties who never grew up. There is no hope for these people. It's tragic really.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Note how few B&H addresses there are ! Proves both sides of mindless idiots bus their thugs in despite the anti's claiming to be locally based people.[/p][/quote]The antis in the photos are all pretty young - probably at that student rebellion stage in their lives. It is likely they will grow out of it. But the MfE ones are all blokes in the their forties who never grew up. There is no hope for these people. It's tragic really. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 0

11:25am Thu 10 Jul 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

stevo!! wrote:
"Number two in your list is probably the funniest thing I have heard all week. "They had the intelligence to spot an oriental design."

Mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha! Even a five year old kid would know that. Comedy gold."

So you'll basically laugh at anything even when agreeing that the Oriental design of the Pavilion is obvious.

"I suggest the police contact Stevo AKA Gary Baldy who is one of the organisers. "

I have nothing to do with the organisation of these events, but thanks for admitting how desperate you are.

"150 from millions of people across the UK. It's pretty pathetic."

Various factors would have limited attendance, and the figure doesn't reflect English patriotism.

Only a stupid person would claim that it did......thanks for yet another admission.
So why are you in the photos on your pre-march visit to Brighton to check it out? Oh dear Gary Baldy, unfortunately I know exactly what you look like.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "Number two in your list is probably the funniest thing I have heard all week. "They had the intelligence to spot an oriental design." Mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha! Even a five year old kid would know that. Comedy gold." So you'll basically laugh at anything even when agreeing that the Oriental design of the Pavilion is obvious. "I suggest the police contact Stevo AKA Gary Baldy who is one of the organisers. " I have nothing to do with the organisation of these events, but thanks for admitting how desperate you are. "150 from millions of people across the UK. It's pretty pathetic." Various factors would have limited attendance, and the figure doesn't reflect English patriotism. Only a stupid person would claim that it did......thanks for yet another admission.[/p][/quote]So why are you in the photos on your pre-march visit to Brighton to check it out? Oh dear Gary Baldy, unfortunately I know exactly what you look like. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: -1

11:32am Thu 10 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

"So why are you in the photos on your pre-march visit to Brighton to check it out?"

I'm not.

HTH
"So why are you in the photos on your pre-march visit to Brighton to check it out?" I'm not. HTH stevo!!
  • Score: 0

11:33am Thu 10 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Note how few B&H addresses there are ! Proves both sides of mindless idiots bus their thugs in despite the anti's claiming to be locally based people.
The antis in the photos are all pretty young - probably at that student rebellion stage in their lives. It is likely they will grow out of it. But the MfE ones are all blokes in the their forties who never grew up. There is no hope for these people. It's tragic really.
Self-loathing is never appealing........why do you indulge in it?
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Note how few B&H addresses there are ! Proves both sides of mindless idiots bus their thugs in despite the anti's claiming to be locally based people.[/p][/quote]The antis in the photos are all pretty young - probably at that student rebellion stage in their lives. It is likely they will grow out of it. But the MfE ones are all blokes in the their forties who never grew up. There is no hope for these people. It's tragic really.[/p][/quote]Self-loathing is never appealing........why do you indulge in it? stevo!!
  • Score: 0

11:56am Thu 10 Jul 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

stevo!! wrote:
"So why are you in the photos on your pre-march visit to Brighton to check it out?"

I'm not.

HTH
Alas, you gave yourself away on here and it was a quick and simple process of deduction to find not only your facebook profile but the lovely photo of you all standing proudly in Brighton. It would rude not to, eh?

How would I describe you - bald, not very attractive, scrawny, a bit like a gull with no feathers.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "So why are you in the photos on your pre-march visit to Brighton to check it out?" I'm not. HTH[/p][/quote]Alas, you gave yourself away on here and it was a quick and simple process of deduction to find not only your facebook profile but the lovely photo of you all standing proudly in Brighton. It would rude not to, eh? How would I describe you - bald, not very attractive, scrawny, a bit like a gull with no feathers. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 1

12:44pm Thu 10 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

"Alas, you gave yourself away on here"

State how. Provide a quote of the comment.

I'll take your impending failure as an admission to talking utter b*ll*x.

"and it was a quick and simple process of deduction"

So you admit that you've relied on deduction not fact.

Have you any idea how pathetic you are?

"How would I describe you.....a bit like a gull with no feathers."

You mean like every human on the planet?
"Alas, you gave yourself away on here" State how. Provide a quote of the comment. I'll take your impending failure as an admission to talking utter b*ll*x. "and it was a quick and simple process of deduction" So you admit that you've relied on deduction not fact. Have you any idea how pathetic you are? "How would I describe you.....a bit like a gull with no feathers." You mean like every human on the planet? stevo!!
  • Score: -2
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