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I've done nothing wrong, says UK's oldest female drink-drive pensioner

The Argus: Betty Teague, 85, is banned from driving after becoming the oldest woman to be caught drink driving in the country. Betty Teague, 85, is banned from driving after becoming the oldest woman to be caught drink driving in the country.

AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong.

Former school caretaker Betty Teague was banned from driving after failing a roadside breath test on the A27.

The Shoreham grandmother-of-nine said the stress had made her ill while neighbours said the crime was “out of character”.

But police warned her drink-driving was “totally unacceptable” and could have caused an accident.

Mrs Teague, of The Burrells in Shoreham, was asked to pick up her 21-year-old grandson on April 12 after he had drunk too much to drive.

She drove him home to Upper Sompting where her daughter offered her a “very small” vodka and coke.

Officers spotted her driving slowly westbound on the A27 with no lights on.

She was arrested after a breath test revealed 100 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood – above the legal limit of 80 milligrammes.

Mrs Teague admitted drink-driving at Brighton Magistrates’ Court on July 3.

She was fined £73, ordered to pay victim surcharge of £20, court costs of £85 and banned from driving for 12 months.

Mrs Teague said afterwards: “I am not an alcoholic and I am not a big drinker.

“I can have one drink and it will have no affect on me whatsoever.

“I know what my limit is.

“I don’t think I have done anything wrong.

“I didn’t think I was over the limit when the police stopped me.

“This has all had a terrible effect on me, I can’t sleep. It’s all very distressing.”

Neighbour Roger Wilson, 68, said: “I think it could only be a one-off lapse because that is right out of character, she is a good member of society.”

Superintendent Jane Derrick said: “We are catching people of all ages, of both sexes and of a range of backgrounds and occupations who think it is ok to risk their lives and the lives of other road users by having a drink and getting behind the wheel.

"Teague could have easily caused an accident by the way she was driving but luckily we were able to stop her before that could happen and she is now banned from the roads for the next year.

"It is totally unacceptable to drink and drive. As far as we are concerned, one drink is one drink too many."

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6:10am Mon 14 Jul 14

john newman says...

Sorry but the Police are right here. Not sure the long ban is necessary though, perhaps some discretion is needed in this area if it is a first offence.
Sorry but the Police are right here. Not sure the long ban is necessary though, perhaps some discretion is needed in this area if it is a first offence. john newman
  • Score: 61

6:32am Mon 14 Jul 14

babsticals says...

Well Betty,obviously one drink DOES have an affect on you! If it didn't ( as you say),you would not be in this situation now.All over the limit drink drivers should be banned.No excuse Betty,I'm afraid.
Well Betty,obviously one drink DOES have an affect on you! If it didn't ( as you say),you would not be in this situation now.All over the limit drink drivers should be banned.No excuse Betty,I'm afraid. babsticals
  • Score: 156

6:49am Mon 14 Jul 14

ohhumanity says...

"I don't think I've done anything wrong!" She says as she drives down the A27 with no lights on...
"I don't think I've done anything wrong!" She says as she drives down the A27 with no lights on... ohhumanity
  • Score: 176

6:52am Mon 14 Jul 14

ohhumanity says...

john newman wrote:
Sorry but the Police are right here. Not sure the long ban is necessary though, perhaps some discretion is needed in this area if it is a first offence.
I disagree. By doing that, you're giving people the thought that if it's your first time getting caught, it doesn't matter because you won't get any repercussions. Anyone caught drink driving, whether it's their first time or not, should be banned from driving for a certain number of years. This ensures that they will not risk lives and also drills into their heads that it is a serious offence.
[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: Sorry but the Police are right here. Not sure the long ban is necessary though, perhaps some discretion is needed in this area if it is a first offence.[/p][/quote]I disagree. By doing that, you're giving people the thought that if it's your first time getting caught, it doesn't matter because you won't get any repercussions. Anyone caught drink driving, whether it's their first time or not, should be banned from driving for a certain number of years. This ensures that they will not risk lives and also drills into their heads that it is a serious offence. ohhumanity
  • Score: 92

7:12am Mon 14 Jul 14

leftysmellbags says...

Is she 82 or 85 I just dont know, Im confused ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Is she 82 or 85 I just dont know, Im confused ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhh. leftysmellbags
  • Score: 5

7:13am Mon 14 Jul 14

leftysmellbags says...

Is she 85 or 82?
Is she 85 or 82? leftysmellbags
  • Score: 4

7:18am Mon 14 Jul 14

hoveguyactually says...

"It is totally unacceptable to drink and drive. As far as we are concerned, one drink is one drink too many."

Not quite right. It should be "One drink over the limit is one drink too many".
"It is totally unacceptable to drink and drive. As far as we are concerned, one drink is one drink too many." Not quite right. It should be "One drink over the limit is one drink too many". hoveguyactually
  • Score: 13

7:26am Mon 14 Jul 14

Patsyr says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
"It is totally unacceptable to drink and drive. As far as we are concerned, one drink is one drink too many."

Not quite right. It should be "One drink over the limit is one drink too many".
I think what the policeman is saying is that if you drink you should not drive. Therefore one drink is one too many - if you are driving.

To be banned for drink driving then say you don't think you have done anything wrong is very arrogant. However she might have been drink driving for years and just not been caught. I bet her daughter is feeling bad giving her mum a drink knowing that she was going to be driving. But why do it?

This lady has done wrong, and she now has a year of not driving to realise that what she has done is dangerous, anti social and illegal.
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: "It is totally unacceptable to drink and drive. As far as we are concerned, one drink is one drink too many." Not quite right. It should be "One drink over the limit is one drink too many".[/p][/quote]I think what the policeman is saying is that if you drink you should not drive. Therefore one drink is one too many - if you are driving. To be banned for drink driving then say you don't think you have done anything wrong is very arrogant. However she might have been drink driving for years and just not been caught. I bet her daughter is feeling bad giving her mum a drink knowing that she was going to be driving. But why do it? This lady has done wrong, and she now has a year of not driving to realise that what she has done is dangerous, anti social and illegal. Patsyr
  • Score: 59

7:34am Mon 14 Jul 14

hyram77 says...

Betty is a little misguided it seems. This article certainly doesn't help her cause of being found guilty of drink driving. The fact she didn't intend to drive while being over the prescribed limit is irrelevant in this case as the act itself is sufficient to be found guilty. I would suggest saying no more on the subject Betty and take your punishment.
Betty is a little misguided it seems. This article certainly doesn't help her cause of being found guilty of drink driving. The fact she didn't intend to drive while being over the prescribed limit is irrelevant in this case as the act itself is sufficient to be found guilty. I would suggest saying no more on the subject Betty and take your punishment. hyram77
  • Score: 50

7:38am Mon 14 Jul 14

Scorpio50 says...

Sorry Betty but I am afraid you're in the wrong. Driving without headlights, driving slowly and, when stopped, you failed the breath test. No, you've done the crime and now you'll pay the consequences I am afraid.
Sorry Betty but I am afraid you're in the wrong. Driving without headlights, driving slowly and, when stopped, you failed the breath test. No, you've done the crime and now you'll pay the consequences I am afraid. Scorpio50
  • Score: 72

7:44am Mon 14 Jul 14

Cory and Trevor says...

I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time.

I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.
I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time. I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once. Cory and Trevor
  • Score: -53

7:57am Mon 14 Jul 14

babsticals says...

Cory and Trevor wrote:
I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time.

I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.
I do not agree,we read about lots of people that have done similar of any age,and had their plight in the newspapers.Age does not matter.Betty committed a crime,now she has to face the consequences.In fact,she should know better!Silly lady.
[quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time. I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.[/p][/quote]I do not agree,we read about lots of people that have done similar of any age,and had their plight in the newspapers.Age does not matter.Betty committed a crime,now she has to face the consequences.In fact,she should know better!Silly lady. babsticals
  • Score: 39

8:00am Mon 14 Jul 14

Patsyr says...

Cory and Trevor wrote:
I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time.

I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.
I presume that Betty gave the interview willingly and if what she has said is not taken out of context then she has to stand by what she said.
She must also have been willing to pose for a photograph, she doesn't look as if she has been made to.
Drink drivers are now being named and shamed and I think that is right as it is a risky and anti social thing to do.

Betty might have led an upstanding life but it is tainted now. However perfect her past has been and for how long is irrelevant as she is now a criminal and perhaps she needs to think of that drink her daughter gave her both knowing that Betty was going to drive home afterwards. She may also have had alcohol earlier that day, we don't know.
[quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time. I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.[/p][/quote]I presume that Betty gave the interview willingly and if what she has said is not taken out of context then she has to stand by what she said. She must also have been willing to pose for a photograph, she doesn't look as if she has been made to. Drink drivers are now being named and shamed and I think that is right as it is a risky and anti social thing to do. Betty might have led an upstanding life but it is tainted now. However perfect her past has been and for how long is irrelevant as she is now a criminal and perhaps she needs to think of that drink her daughter gave her both knowing that Betty was going to drive home afterwards. She may also have had alcohol earlier that day, we don't know. Patsyr
  • Score: 26

8:01am Mon 14 Jul 14

babsticals says...

leftysmellbags wrote:
Is she 85 or 82?
82 ? 85 ? Whichever,she should know better at this age .
[quote][p][bold]leftysmellbags[/bold] wrote: Is she 85 or 82?[/p][/quote]82 ? 85 ? Whichever,she should know better at this age . babsticals
  • Score: 20

8:15am Mon 14 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Intelligent daughter. Instead of offering a tea, coffee, water as you might before someone drives home, I know, "Would you like a 'healthy' measure or two or three of vodka Mum?". Hic.
Intelligent daughter. Instead of offering a tea, coffee, water as you might before someone drives home, I know, "Would you like a 'healthy' measure or two or three of vodka Mum?". Hic. Withdean-er
  • Score: 49

8:21am Mon 14 Jul 14

Peppers I says...

"It is totally unacceptable to drink and drive. As far as we are concerned, one drink is one drink too many.
Is that a personal opinion because that's not the law.
"It is totally unacceptable to drink and drive. As far as we are concerned, one drink is one drink too many. Is that a personal opinion because that's not the law. Peppers I
  • Score: -29

8:24am Mon 14 Jul 14

Scorpio50 says...

Cory and Trevor wrote:
I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time.

I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.
Sorry Cory and Trevor but I think you're out of line here. It is obvious that Mrs Teague gave the interview of her own free will and judging by the posed photograph and dress she wasn't taken unaware either.
No, whilst she might have been an upstanding person of Society in this case she isn't. It's just lucky she never killed anyone whilst drink driving otherwise the penalty could have been a lot worse too.
Also, I think her daughter is to blame also after all she shouldn't be offering her elderly Mother a drink knowing she'd be driving home.
[quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time. I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.[/p][/quote]Sorry Cory and Trevor but I think you're out of line here. It is obvious that Mrs Teague gave the interview of her own free will and judging by the posed photograph and dress she wasn't taken unaware either. No, whilst she might have been an upstanding person of Society in this case she isn't. It's just lucky she never killed anyone whilst drink driving otherwise the penalty could have been a lot worse too. Also, I think her daughter is to blame also after all she shouldn't be offering her elderly Mother a drink knowing she'd be driving home. Scorpio50
  • Score: 39

8:33am Mon 14 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Cory and Trevor wrote:
I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time.

I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.
I don't think we should ridicule her - I agree.

By the way she bears an uncanny resemblance to the Doctor from 'Back to the Future'.
[quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time. I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.[/p][/quote]I don't think we should ridicule her - I agree. By the way she bears an uncanny resemblance to the Doctor from 'Back to the Future'. Quiterie
  • Score: 10

8:34am Mon 14 Jul 14

s&k says...

Maybe it's time to make this clear cut in law - any alcohol while driving illegal?
Maybe it's time to make this clear cut in law - any alcohol while driving illegal? s&k
  • Score: 12

8:48am Mon 14 Jul 14

paul6391 says...

Being somebody who has been convicted of drink driving back in 1990,
this woman got off quite lightly in my opinion, and to say "i know my limits" well she is as thick as her dopey daughter.. nobody knows their limits you think you do.. but you don't... it's only a matter of time before you are caught, and hopefully before an accident.....I DRINK IS ONE TO MANY TO DRIVE... this woman probably has been getting away with drink driving for a long time....takes the p*ss when she says its caused her stress and sleepless nights...what about if she had an accident and hurt someone..stupid thoughtless woman....
Being somebody who has been convicted of drink driving back in 1990, this woman got off quite lightly in my opinion, and to say "i know my limits" well she is as thick as her dopey daughter.. nobody knows their limits you think you do.. but you don't... it's only a matter of time before you are caught, and hopefully before an accident.....I DRINK IS ONE TO MANY TO DRIVE... this woman probably has been getting away with drink driving for a long time....takes the p*ss when she says its caused her stress and sleepless nights...what about if she had an accident and hurt someone..stupid thoughtless woman.... paul6391
  • Score: 39

9:13am Mon 14 Jul 14

Hooitness says...

Why do all old people believe the law doesn't apply to them?
Why do all old people believe the law doesn't apply to them? Hooitness
  • Score: 30

9:15am Mon 14 Jul 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

So the grandson has drunk too much and needs a lift home and when granny gets him home the family offer her a drink before she drives home.
Maybe a family session about drink driving is in order but if granny cannot understand what she has done wrong, it may be time to remove her licence permanently.
So the grandson has drunk too much and needs a lift home and when granny gets him home the family offer her a drink before she drives home. Maybe a family session about drink driving is in order but if granny cannot understand what she has done wrong, it may be time to remove her licence permanently. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 56

9:25am Mon 14 Jul 14

TIMBURRY says...

How much does she want for the car?
How much does she want for the car? TIMBURRY
  • Score: 33

9:36am Mon 14 Jul 14

paul6391 says...

TIMBURRY wrote:
How much does she want for the car?
Ok i admit it this made me laugh out loud.....
[quote][p][bold]TIMBURRY[/bold] wrote: How much does she want for the car?[/p][/quote]Ok i admit it this made me laugh out loud..... paul6391
  • Score: 23

9:55am Mon 14 Jul 14

Caute3 says...

Cory and Trevor wrote:
I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time.

I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.
I agree. And I also think it is quite feasible she had just one small drink and did not know she was over the limit, since, Supt Derrick clearly does not know the law which is, there is NO ban on drinking and driving, the ban is, as many have said, being over the legal limit. Now we might not like the law but that's how it is; for another person, someone a bit more weighty, she probably could have drank the same as Betty and not been over the limit - 20ml is really not very much, lets me honest; as for having no lights on, I wouldn't believe a word Sussex Police say. As a bereaved next of kin to a road death in Sussex, Supt Derricks team monitored by social media including my twitter account - check it out @caute3 - to which, I need add the Argus newspaper also happily complied.
[quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time. I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.[/p][/quote]I agree. And I also think it is quite feasible she had just one small drink and did not know she was over the limit, since, Supt Derrick clearly does not know the law which is, there is NO ban on drinking and driving, the ban is, as many have said, being over the legal limit. Now we might not like the law but that's how it is; for another person, someone a bit more weighty, she probably could have drank the same as Betty and not been over the limit - 20ml is really not very much, lets me honest; as for having no lights on, I wouldn't believe a word Sussex Police say. As a bereaved next of kin to a road death in Sussex, Supt Derricks team monitored by social media including my twitter account - check it out @caute3 - to which, I need add the Argus newspaper also happily complied. Caute3
  • Score: -39

10:07am Mon 14 Jul 14

Strawberryshake says...

Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity
Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity Strawberryshake
  • Score: 31

10:22am Mon 14 Jul 14

calro75 says...

Something all older people should be aware of, as you get older alcohol takes longer to metabolize in the body. Also there is a lower amount of water in the body, so once upon a time that 'one drink' may have still left you under the limit. Not suggesting anyone drink and drive but it should be something we are all aware of. Measures of alcohol at home are also risky as they often tend to be larger than those in pubs. If I'm driving, I. Stick to the rule of zero alcohol is the safest.
Something all older people should be aware of, as you get older alcohol takes longer to metabolize in the body. Also there is a lower amount of water in the body, so once upon a time that 'one drink' may have still left you under the limit. Not suggesting anyone drink and drive but it should be something we are all aware of. Measures of alcohol at home are also risky as they often tend to be larger than those in pubs. If I'm driving, I. Stick to the rule of zero alcohol is the safest. calro75
  • Score: 23

10:38am Mon 14 Jul 14

stir up says...

It is perfectly correct to say if you have a low fluid level in your body the alcohol will kick in even from one drink. Many years ago I played a round of golf in very hot weather and before going home had half a pint of larger, then started to drive home, I suddenly realised that I was not really in complete control so stopped and fortunately had some water in the car and downed a full 2 pints and sat in the car for a while before going on felling much more with it. So that one drink was enough to go over the limit.
The police were very much in order on this one.
It is perfectly correct to say if you have a low fluid level in your body the alcohol will kick in even from one drink. Many years ago I played a round of golf in very hot weather and before going home had half a pint of larger, then started to drive home, I suddenly realised that I was not really in complete control so stopped and fortunately had some water in the car and downed a full 2 pints and sat in the car for a while before going on felling much more with it. So that one drink was enough to go over the limit. The police were very much in order on this one. stir up
  • Score: 18

11:19am Mon 14 Jul 14

martyt says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
So the grandson has drunk too much and needs a lift home and when granny gets him home the family offer her a drink before she drives home.
Maybe a family session about drink driving is in order but if granny cannot understand what she has done wrong, it may be time to remove her licence permanently.
on a plus side she has a free travel pass ,she could use it and save some money
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: So the grandson has drunk too much and needs a lift home and when granny gets him home the family offer her a drink before she drives home. Maybe a family session about drink driving is in order but if granny cannot understand what she has done wrong, it may be time to remove her licence permanently.[/p][/quote]on a plus side she has a free travel pass ,she could use it and save some money martyt
  • Score: 14

11:19am Mon 14 Jul 14

Cory and Trevor says...

A lot of commenters on here are more ready to write a response than to read properly what they’re responding to first.
The original story was only newsworthy because of the woman’s age. This additional story is the result of an opportunist reporter latching on to a comment she made that she feels she did nothing wrong as she didn’t feel drunk. Obviously, that’s wrong and driving over the legal limit is indefensable and she’s rightfully been banned. Good. But to make a headline and article with the narrative angle that she is defiant of drink driving laws based on that one comment of hers, is cheap, opportunist journalism, and rather cruel considering her age.
A lot of commenters on here are more ready to write a response than to read properly what they’re responding to first. The original story was only newsworthy because of the woman’s age. This additional story is the result of an opportunist reporter latching on to a comment she made that she feels she did nothing wrong as she didn’t feel drunk. Obviously, that’s wrong and driving over the legal limit is indefensable and she’s rightfully been banned. Good. But to make a headline and article with the narrative angle that she is defiant of drink driving laws based on that one comment of hers, is cheap, opportunist journalism, and rather cruel considering her age. Cory and Trevor
  • Score: -13

11:21am Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

"AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong. "

She has a point.

The official guidelines state that a unit of alcohol is perfectly acceptable prior to driving.

To have done something 'wrong' (morally rather than illegally) she would have to have knowingly consumed more than the guidelines.
"AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong. " She has a point. The official guidelines state that a unit of alcohol is perfectly acceptable prior to driving. To have done something 'wrong' (morally rather than illegally) she would have to have knowingly consumed more than the guidelines. stevo!!
  • Score: -25

11:29am Mon 14 Jul 14

clarkebrighton says...

This Silly Lady !! Was Driving down the A27 with NO Lights on, and she
was OVER THE LEGAL LIMIT.
I expect People's Remarks would be a little different if because of this
she had caused an Accident in which People were Killed or Maimed she
does NOT seem to have any Remorse, And she thinks she has done Nothing wrong without doubt she should be ashamed of herself.
This Silly Lady !! Was Driving down the A27 with NO Lights on, and she was OVER THE LEGAL LIMIT. I expect People's Remarks would be a little different if because of this she had caused an Accident in which People were Killed or Maimed she does NOT seem to have any Remorse, And she thinks she has done Nothing wrong without doubt she should be ashamed of herself. clarkebrighton
  • Score: 20

11:31am Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

clarkebrighton wrote:
This Silly Lady !! Was Driving down the A27 with NO Lights on, and she
was OVER THE LEGAL LIMIT.
I expect People's Remarks would be a little different if because of this
she had caused an Accident in which People were Killed or Maimed she
does NOT seem to have any Remorse, And she thinks she has done Nothing wrong without doubt she should be ashamed of herself.
Has anyone actually stated or implied that they believed she shouldn't have been prosecuted?
[quote][p][bold]clarkebrighton[/bold] wrote: This Silly Lady !! Was Driving down the A27 with NO Lights on, and she was OVER THE LEGAL LIMIT. I expect People's Remarks would be a little different if because of this she had caused an Accident in which People were Killed or Maimed she does NOT seem to have any Remorse, And she thinks she has done Nothing wrong without doubt she should be ashamed of herself.[/p][/quote]Has anyone actually stated or implied that they believed she shouldn't have been prosecuted? stevo!!
  • Score: -9

11:42am Mon 14 Jul 14

Patsyr says...

stir up wrote:
It is perfectly correct to say if you have a low fluid level in your body the alcohol will kick in even from one drink. Many years ago I played a round of golf in very hot weather and before going home had half a pint of larger, then started to drive home, I suddenly realised that I was not really in complete control so stopped and fortunately had some water in the car and downed a full 2 pints and sat in the car for a while before going on felling much more with it. So that one drink was enough to go over the limit.
The police were very much in order on this one.
That one drink was enough to make you feel different but you don't know if you were over the limit or not. Only a breath test can tell that.

That is the problem with our current law as nobody knows what is the "safe" amount you can drink and still be OK to drive.

Zero alcohol would be much better then there could be no confusion.
[quote][p][bold]stir up[/bold] wrote: It is perfectly correct to say if you have a low fluid level in your body the alcohol will kick in even from one drink. Many years ago I played a round of golf in very hot weather and before going home had half a pint of larger, then started to drive home, I suddenly realised that I was not really in complete control so stopped and fortunately had some water in the car and downed a full 2 pints and sat in the car for a while before going on felling much more with it. So that one drink was enough to go over the limit. The police were very much in order on this one.[/p][/quote]That one drink was enough to make you feel different but you don't know if you were over the limit or not. Only a breath test can tell that. That is the problem with our current law as nobody knows what is the "safe" amount you can drink and still be OK to drive. Zero alcohol would be much better then there could be no confusion. Patsyr
  • Score: 8

11:47am Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

stir up wrote:
It is perfectly correct to say if you have a low fluid level in your body the alcohol will kick in even from one drink. Many years ago I played a round of golf in very hot weather and before going home had half a pint of larger, then started to drive home, I suddenly realised that I was not really in complete control so stopped and fortunately had some water in the car and downed a full 2 pints and sat in the car for a while before going on felling much more with it. So that one drink was enough to go over the limit.
The police were very much in order on this one.
There is no proof that half-a-pint of lager put you over the limit, and if it had, those two pints of water allied to a rest wouldn't have removed the alcohol from your bloodstream, so you drove on with the same amount as when you'd pulled over.

You experienced an alcohol rush, pure and simple.
[quote][p][bold]stir up[/bold] wrote: It is perfectly correct to say if you have a low fluid level in your body the alcohol will kick in even from one drink. Many years ago I played a round of golf in very hot weather and before going home had half a pint of larger, then started to drive home, I suddenly realised that I was not really in complete control so stopped and fortunately had some water in the car and downed a full 2 pints and sat in the car for a while before going on felling much more with it. So that one drink was enough to go over the limit. The police were very much in order on this one.[/p][/quote]There is no proof that half-a-pint of lager put you over the limit, and if it had, those two pints of water allied to a rest wouldn't have removed the alcohol from your bloodstream, so you drove on with the same amount as when you'd pulled over. You experienced an alcohol rush, pure and simple. stevo!!
  • Score: -5

11:55am Mon 14 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Quiterie wrote:
Cory and Trevor wrote:
I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time.

I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.
I don't think we should ridicule her - I agree.

By the way she bears an uncanny resemblance to the Doctor from 'Back to the Future'.
Back to the Future quip - that did make me laugh. You're right - a very close resemblance.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: I think the Argus is out of order here. That Betty Teague made the news for being caught over the limit was purely because of her age, not the crime itself. Now they are milking it with this sensationalist headline, as if the woman implies that drink/driving is ok/, which clearly she isn't. She's just not yet come to terms with what she's done because she's apparently lived an upstanding life for a very long time. I think the Argus is inviting ridicule on her by portraying her as defiant of the law, and should remove this article at once.[/p][/quote]I don't think we should ridicule her - I agree. By the way she bears an uncanny resemblance to the Doctor from 'Back to the Future'.[/p][/quote]Back to the Future quip - that did make me laugh. You're right - a very close resemblance. Withdean-er
  • Score: 4

11:58am Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Strawberryshake wrote:
Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity
Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out.

She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol.

And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.
[quote][p][bold]Strawberryshake[/bold] wrote: Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity[/p][/quote]Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out. She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol. And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over. stevo!!
  • Score: -18

12:33pm Mon 14 Jul 14

firemanste says...

stevo!! wrote:
"AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong. "

She has a point.

The official guidelines state that a unit of alcohol is perfectly acceptable prior to driving.

To have done something 'wrong' (morally rather than illegally) she would have to have knowingly consumed more than the guidelines.
you try telling that to the family of some innocent person who has been unfortunate enough to meet a drink driver on the road and ended up in hospital or dead through no fault of their own.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong. " She has a point. The official guidelines state that a unit of alcohol is perfectly acceptable prior to driving. To have done something 'wrong' (morally rather than illegally) she would have to have knowingly consumed more than the guidelines.[/p][/quote]you try telling that to the family of some innocent person who has been unfortunate enough to meet a drink driver on the road and ended up in hospital or dead through no fault of their own. firemanste
  • Score: 16

12:55pm Mon 14 Jul 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

This arrogant woman needs a kick up her rear end.

Her whole family sound disgraceful to me.

They seem to have no knowledge of what is safe to drink and when it is safe to drink.

Maybe the whole lot of them should think about giving up alcohol as the grandson is too young to be getting so drunk he can't get himself home - his mother seems to think it's fine for her 21 year old to do this - no it is not, these types are costing the NHS a small fortune and taking up valuable A&E places when they get ill.

The idiot daughter also thinks it a good idea to give her mum an alcoholic drink when she knows she is about to drive home. Why would anyone give their mum a big alcoholic drink? She doesn't even know what is a safe amount to put in her glasses - mother and daughter obviously think a large amount of alcohol is a small drink - showing they are both deluded and possible killers.

Very luckily this stupid, arrogant woman didn't cause an accident but she was driving without her lights on and slowly. She shows no remorse for doing this. She should be banned for life and she should get a lot of comments made to her by the public who are as disgusted with her attitude as I am.
This arrogant woman needs a kick up her rear end. Her whole family sound disgraceful to me. They seem to have no knowledge of what is safe to drink and when it is safe to drink. Maybe the whole lot of them should think about giving up alcohol as the grandson is too young to be getting so drunk he can't get himself home - his mother seems to think it's fine for her 21 year old to do this - no it is not, these types are costing the NHS a small fortune and taking up valuable A&E places when they get ill. The idiot daughter also thinks it a good idea to give her mum an alcoholic drink when she knows she is about to drive home. Why would anyone give their mum a big alcoholic drink? She doesn't even know what is a safe amount to put in her glasses - mother and daughter obviously think a large amount of alcohol is a small drink - showing they are both deluded and possible killers. Very luckily this stupid, arrogant woman didn't cause an accident but she was driving without her lights on and slowly. She shows no remorse for doing this. She should be banned for life and she should get a lot of comments made to her by the public who are as disgusted with her attitude as I am. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 25

12:57pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

stevo!! wrote:
Strawberryshake wrote:
Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity
Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out.

She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol.

And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.
Pleased guilty because:
The facts were indisputable, and
That can result in softer punishments.

"One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strawberryshake[/bold] wrote: Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity[/p][/quote]Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out. She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol. And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.[/p][/quote]Pleased guilty because: The facts were indisputable, and That can result in softer punishments. "One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables. Withdean-er
  • Score: 9

1:06pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Itakeyourgoods says...

Well Betty apart from the drink side what about the fact that you were driving down the A27 at night with no lights on. Any feeling's about the accident you may have caused or was this another one of those I now my limits on being able to drive at night with no light or consideration for other road users.
Well Betty apart from the drink side what about the fact that you were driving down the A27 at night with no lights on. Any feeling's about the accident you may have caused or was this another one of those I now my limits on being able to drive at night with no light or consideration for other road users. Itakeyourgoods
  • Score: 10

1:11pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

firemanste wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
"AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong. "

She has a point.

The official guidelines state that a unit of alcohol is perfectly acceptable prior to driving.

To have done something 'wrong' (morally rather than illegally) she would have to have knowingly consumed more than the guidelines.
you try telling that to the family of some innocent person who has been unfortunate enough to meet a drink driver on the road and ended up in hospital or dead through no fault of their own.
And that somehow alters the facts?

Having a drink before driving is a perfectly legal act.
[quote][p][bold]firemanste[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong. " She has a point. The official guidelines state that a unit of alcohol is perfectly acceptable prior to driving. To have done something 'wrong' (morally rather than illegally) she would have to have knowingly consumed more than the guidelines.[/p][/quote]you try telling that to the family of some innocent person who has been unfortunate enough to meet a drink driver on the road and ended up in hospital or dead through no fault of their own.[/p][/quote]And that somehow alters the facts? Having a drink before driving is a perfectly legal act. stevo!!
  • Score: -20

1:12pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Patsyr says...

Withdean-er wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Strawberryshake wrote:
Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity
Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out.

She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol.

And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.
Pleased guilty because:
The facts were indisputable, and
That can result in softer punishments.

"One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.
This lady had one "small" drink apparently at her daughters house but how many before? She might have just topped up and may have been lucky for years not being stopped.

Having been banned from driving standing beside her car in her shocking, shocking pink outfit does no show the lady in a very good light. It seems as if she is not at all concerned not does she appreciate that she now has a criminal record.
Does she expect sympathy when she says that the stress has made er feel ill. Good. I hope she feels very guilty too and relieved that she did get stopped before something much worse happened.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strawberryshake[/bold] wrote: Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity[/p][/quote]Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out. She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol. And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.[/p][/quote]Pleased guilty because: The facts were indisputable, and That can result in softer punishments. "One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.[/p][/quote]This lady had one "small" drink apparently at her daughters house but how many before? She might have just topped up and may have been lucky for years not being stopped. Having been banned from driving standing beside her car in her shocking, shocking pink outfit does no show the lady in a very good light. It seems as if she is not at all concerned not does she appreciate that she now has a criminal record. Does she expect sympathy when she says that the stress has made er feel ill. Good. I hope she feels very guilty too and relieved that she did get stopped before something much worse happened. Patsyr
  • Score: 15

1:17pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Withdean-er wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Strawberryshake wrote:
Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity
Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out.

She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol.

And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.
Pleased guilty because:
The facts were indisputable, and
That can result in softer punishments.

"One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.
Doesn't that only apply to custodial sentences?

The fact is that she acknowledged that she was over the limit, and nowhere does she complain that she wasn't.

She simply stated that she was surprised one drink (poured by another person) had taken her over. She said that she didn't think she was over the limit when she was stopped.

She's pleased guilty, she's accepting her punishment, and that really is that.

Oh, and it was The Argus that sought her out, not vice versa.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strawberryshake[/bold] wrote: Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity[/p][/quote]Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out. She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol. And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.[/p][/quote]Pleased guilty because: The facts were indisputable, and That can result in softer punishments. "One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.[/p][/quote]Doesn't that only apply to custodial sentences? The fact is that she acknowledged that she was over the limit, and nowhere does she complain that she wasn't. She simply stated that she was surprised one drink (poured by another person) had taken her over. She said that she didn't think she was over the limit when she was stopped. She's pleased guilty, she's accepting her punishment, and that really is that. Oh, and it was The Argus that sought her out, not vice versa. stevo!!
  • Score: -6

1:24pm Mon 14 Jul 14

firemanste says...

stevo!! wrote:
firemanste wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
"AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong. "

She has a point.

The official guidelines state that a unit of alcohol is perfectly acceptable prior to driving.

To have done something 'wrong' (morally rather than illegally) she would have to have knowingly consumed more than the guidelines.
you try telling that to the family of some innocent person who has been unfortunate enough to meet a drink driver on the road and ended up in hospital or dead through no fault of their own.
And that somehow alters the facts?

Having a drink before driving is a perfectly legal act.
it doesnt alter the facts stevo.but if more people never had a drop then concequences would be different.someone said about the heat,nothing to eat already.all contributing factors and when you suffer tragedy and heartache through drink drive accidents then you will have a different point of view.then again do you have a heart
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]firemanste[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong. " She has a point. The official guidelines state that a unit of alcohol is perfectly acceptable prior to driving. To have done something 'wrong' (morally rather than illegally) she would have to have knowingly consumed more than the guidelines.[/p][/quote]you try telling that to the family of some innocent person who has been unfortunate enough to meet a drink driver on the road and ended up in hospital or dead through no fault of their own.[/p][/quote]And that somehow alters the facts? Having a drink before driving is a perfectly legal act.[/p][/quote]it doesnt alter the facts stevo.but if more people never had a drop then concequences would be different.someone said about the heat,nothing to eat already.all contributing factors and when you suffer tragedy and heartache through drink drive accidents then you will have a different point of view.then again do you have a heart firemanste
  • Score: 6

1:36pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

firemanste wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
firemanste wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
"AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong. "

She has a point.

The official guidelines state that a unit of alcohol is perfectly acceptable prior to driving.

To have done something 'wrong' (morally rather than illegally) she would have to have knowingly consumed more than the guidelines.
you try telling that to the family of some innocent person who has been unfortunate enough to meet a drink driver on the road and ended up in hospital or dead through no fault of their own.
And that somehow alters the facts?

Having a drink before driving is a perfectly legal act.
it doesnt alter the facts stevo.but if more people never had a drop then concequences would be different.someone said about the heat,nothing to eat already.all contributing factors and when you suffer tragedy and heartache through drink drive accidents then you will have a different point of view.then again do you have a heart
So let's ban cars, eh?

That would make sure no-one was ever killed by one again.

Of course 'things' could be different in every collision. Walking alongside a road is a dangerous thing to do, with the dangers reduced by everyone paying attention to what they are doing.

My anger at this woman had she injured anyone would not have decreased had she tested negative following an accident unless it was proven that she were blameless, of course.

Oh, and I'm yet to learn of the family of an RTA fatality showing relief at the news that the driver responsible was sober.
[quote][p][bold]firemanste[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]firemanste[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "AN 85-YEAR-old pensioner believed to be the oldest female drink driver has insisted she feels she has done nothing wrong. " She has a point. The official guidelines state that a unit of alcohol is perfectly acceptable prior to driving. To have done something 'wrong' (morally rather than illegally) she would have to have knowingly consumed more than the guidelines.[/p][/quote]you try telling that to the family of some innocent person who has been unfortunate enough to meet a drink driver on the road and ended up in hospital or dead through no fault of their own.[/p][/quote]And that somehow alters the facts? Having a drink before driving is a perfectly legal act.[/p][/quote]it doesnt alter the facts stevo.but if more people never had a drop then concequences would be different.someone said about the heat,nothing to eat already.all contributing factors and when you suffer tragedy and heartache through drink drive accidents then you will have a different point of view.then again do you have a heart[/p][/quote]So let's ban cars, eh? That would make sure no-one was ever killed by one again. Of course 'things' could be different in every collision. Walking alongside a road is a dangerous thing to do, with the dangers reduced by everyone paying attention to what they are doing. My anger at this woman had she injured anyone would not have decreased had she tested negative following an accident unless it was proven that she were blameless, of course. Oh, and I'm yet to learn of the family of an RTA fatality showing relief at the news that the driver responsible was sober. stevo!!
  • Score: -9

2:09pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Strawberryshake says...

It was in The Sun on Sunday page 35 yesterday, that she had one small vodka and coke with her meal in a pub? So which is it then? Daughter, Pub, or maybe she just drinks
It was in The Sun on Sunday page 35 yesterday, that she had one small vodka and coke with her meal in a pub? So which is it then? Daughter, Pub, or maybe she just drinks Strawberryshake
  • Score: 13

2:37pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Hove Ex-Pat says...

So she had one drink, I don't think so, more than one to get that reading.
Driving normally? Slowly, with no lights, at night. I think not. She should surrender her licence permanently, sell the car & get a mobility scooter, but the pavement kind only.
So she had one drink, I don't think so, more than one to get that reading. Driving normally? Slowly, with no lights, at night. I think not. She should surrender her licence permanently, sell the car & get a mobility scooter, but the pavement kind only. Hove Ex-Pat
  • Score: 7

2:58pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

stevo!! wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Strawberryshake wrote:
Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity
Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out.

She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol.

And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.
Pleased guilty because:
The facts were indisputable, and
That can result in softer punishments.

"One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.
Doesn't that only apply to custodial sentences?

The fact is that she acknowledged that she was over the limit, and nowhere does she complain that she wasn't.

She simply stated that she was surprised one drink (poured by another person) had taken her over. She said that she didn't think she was over the limit when she was stopped.

She's pleased guilty, she's accepting her punishment, and that really is that.

Oh, and it was The Argus that sought her out, not vice versa.
According to legal websites covering drink driving, the combination of a guilty plea combined with a plea of mitigation can really make a difference to the length of driving ban for drink driving.
Mrs.Teague was therefore shrewd and will be back on our roads in no time at all.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strawberryshake[/bold] wrote: Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity[/p][/quote]Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out. She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol. And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.[/p][/quote]Pleased guilty because: The facts were indisputable, and That can result in softer punishments. "One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.[/p][/quote]Doesn't that only apply to custodial sentences? The fact is that she acknowledged that she was over the limit, and nowhere does she complain that she wasn't. She simply stated that she was surprised one drink (poured by another person) had taken her over. She said that she didn't think she was over the limit when she was stopped. She's pleased guilty, she's accepting her punishment, and that really is that. Oh, and it was The Argus that sought her out, not vice versa.[/p][/quote]According to legal websites covering drink driving, the combination of a guilty plea combined with a plea of mitigation can really make a difference to the length of driving ban for drink driving. Mrs.Teague was therefore shrewd and will be back on our roads in no time at all. Withdean-er
  • Score: 1

3:06pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Withdean-er wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Strawberryshake wrote:
Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity
Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out.

She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol.

And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.
Pleased guilty because:
The facts were indisputable, and
That can result in softer punishments.

"One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.
Doesn't that only apply to custodial sentences?

The fact is that she acknowledged that she was over the limit, and nowhere does she complain that she wasn't.

She simply stated that she was surprised one drink (poured by another person) had taken her over. She said that she didn't think she was over the limit when she was stopped.

She's pleased guilty, she's accepting her punishment, and that really is that.

Oh, and it was The Argus that sought her out, not vice versa.
According to legal websites covering drink driving, the combination of a guilty plea combined with a plea of mitigation can really make a difference to the length of driving ban for drink driving.
Mrs.Teague was therefore shrewd and will be back on our roads in no time at all.
Thanks for that.

Various factors will be taken into consideration with regard to fines, etc.

She's got a year's ban, so that isn't 'no time at all', especially in view of her age.....it could be permanent.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strawberryshake[/bold] wrote: Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity[/p][/quote]Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out. She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol. And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.[/p][/quote]Pleased guilty because: The facts were indisputable, and That can result in softer punishments. "One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.[/p][/quote]Doesn't that only apply to custodial sentences? The fact is that she acknowledged that she was over the limit, and nowhere does she complain that she wasn't. She simply stated that she was surprised one drink (poured by another person) had taken her over. She said that she didn't think she was over the limit when she was stopped. She's pleased guilty, she's accepting her punishment, and that really is that. Oh, and it was The Argus that sought her out, not vice versa.[/p][/quote]According to legal websites covering drink driving, the combination of a guilty plea combined with a plea of mitigation can really make a difference to the length of driving ban for drink driving. Mrs.Teague was therefore shrewd and will be back on our roads in no time at all.[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. Various factors will be taken into consideration with regard to fines, etc. She's got a year's ban, so that isn't 'no time at all', especially in view of her age.....it could be permanent. stevo!!
  • Score: -3

3:07pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Hove Ex-Pat wrote:
So she had one drink, I don't think so, more than one to get that reading.
Driving normally? Slowly, with no lights, at night. I think not. She should surrender her licence permanently, sell the car & get a mobility scooter, but the pavement kind only.
Oh, great.

So you'd place all drunken drivers on the pavement where they can career into pedestrians all day long?
[quote][p][bold]Hove Ex-Pat[/bold] wrote: So she had one drink, I don't think so, more than one to get that reading. Driving normally? Slowly, with no lights, at night. I think not. She should surrender her licence permanently, sell the car & get a mobility scooter, but the pavement kind only.[/p][/quote]Oh, great. So you'd place all drunken drivers on the pavement where they can career into pedestrians all day long? stevo!!
  • Score: -6

3:22pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Ground Sky Ground Sky says...

I thought she looked like Madge from Benidorm than again she is missing the mobility scooter
I thought she looked like Madge from Benidorm than again she is missing the mobility scooter Ground Sky Ground Sky
  • Score: 0

3:23pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Strawberryshake wrote:
It was in The Sun on Sunday page 35 yesterday, that she had one small vodka and coke with her meal in a pub? So which is it then? Daughter, Pub, or maybe she just drinks
One word: Argus
[quote][p][bold]Strawberryshake[/bold] wrote: It was in The Sun on Sunday page 35 yesterday, that she had one small vodka and coke with her meal in a pub? So which is it then? Daughter, Pub, or maybe she just drinks[/p][/quote]One word: Argus stevo!!
  • Score: 0

3:23pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Ground Sky Ground Sky says...

Bet she sells the car with one careful owner on it ????????
Bet she sells the car with one careful owner on it ???????? Ground Sky Ground Sky
  • Score: 2

4:13pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Patsyr says...

Withdean-er wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Strawberryshake wrote:
Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity
Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out.

She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol.

And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.
Pleased guilty because:
The facts were indisputable, and
That can result in softer punishments.

"One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.
Doesn't that only apply to custodial sentences?

The fact is that she acknowledged that she was over the limit, and nowhere does she complain that she wasn't.

She simply stated that she was surprised one drink (poured by another person) had taken her over. She said that she didn't think she was over the limit when she was stopped.

She's pleased guilty, she's accepting her punishment, and that really is that.

Oh, and it was The Argus that sought her out, not vice versa.
According to legal websites covering drink driving, the combination of a guilty plea combined with a plea of mitigation can really make a difference to the length of driving ban for drink driving.
Mrs.Teague was therefore shrewd and will be back on our roads in no time at all.
What could the mitigation for driving too slowly, with no lights and over the limit, and being 85 when reactions must be slower than a younger persons
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strawberryshake[/bold] wrote: Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity[/p][/quote]Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out. She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol. And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.[/p][/quote]Pleased guilty because: The facts were indisputable, and That can result in softer punishments. "One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.[/p][/quote]Doesn't that only apply to custodial sentences? The fact is that she acknowledged that she was over the limit, and nowhere does she complain that she wasn't. She simply stated that she was surprised one drink (poured by another person) had taken her over. She said that she didn't think she was over the limit when she was stopped. She's pleased guilty, she's accepting her punishment, and that really is that. Oh, and it was The Argus that sought her out, not vice versa.[/p][/quote]According to legal websites covering drink driving, the combination of a guilty plea combined with a plea of mitigation can really make a difference to the length of driving ban for drink driving. Mrs.Teague was therefore shrewd and will be back on our roads in no time at all.[/p][/quote]What could the mitigation for driving too slowly, with no lights and over the limit, and being 85 when reactions must be slower than a younger persons Patsyr
  • Score: 2

4:14pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Ground Sky Ground Sky wrote:
Bet she sells the car with one careful owner on it ????????
At least the battery should have good life in it, with energy saved from not using car lights in the dark.
[quote][p][bold]Ground Sky Ground Sky[/bold] wrote: Bet she sells the car with one careful owner on it ????????[/p][/quote]At least the battery should have good life in it, with energy saved from not using car lights in the dark. Withdean-er
  • Score: 2

4:18pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Patsyr wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Strawberryshake wrote:
Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity
Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out.

She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol.

And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.
Pleased guilty because:
The facts were indisputable, and
That can result in softer punishments.

"One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.
Doesn't that only apply to custodial sentences?

The fact is that she acknowledged that she was over the limit, and nowhere does she complain that she wasn't.

She simply stated that she was surprised one drink (poured by another person) had taken her over. She said that she didn't think she was over the limit when she was stopped.

She's pleased guilty, she's accepting her punishment, and that really is that.

Oh, and it was The Argus that sought her out, not vice versa.
According to legal websites covering drink driving, the combination of a guilty plea combined with a plea of mitigation can really make a difference to the length of driving ban for drink driving.
Mrs.Teague was therefore shrewd and will be back on our roads in no time at all.
What could the mitigation for driving too slowly, with no lights and over the limit, and being 85 when reactions must be slower than a younger persons
Saga and AgeUK would argue that their lower insurance premiums proves they are the safest drivers on the road.

I have doubts about that, and assume that that stat is obviously skewed by a lack of miles driven (per driver, per annum) by that age group.
[quote][p][bold]Patsyr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strawberryshake[/bold] wrote: Well, judging by that pose by the car she obviously regrets it, er NOT.. Honestly love, your old, stop it, take responsibility and stop blaming others like your daughter and grandson. You was caught thats it, and I bet you have been driving over the limit for years....you are a criminal NOT a celebrity[/p][/quote]Her daughter gave her the drink. She would hardly have deliberately put too much vodka in the coke, but it's plain that she did. It isn't playing the blame game to point that out. She stated that she didn't feel drunk - who are we to disagree? The law allows us to drive after having consumed alcohol. And, she pleaded guilty, because she knew she had broken the law. All she has done is express surprise that one drink took her over.[/p][/quote]Pleased guilty because: The facts were indisputable, and That can result in softer punishments. "One drink". Is based on one person's word, what size of drink. what strength was the liquor? Too much subjectivity and too many variables.[/p][/quote]Doesn't that only apply to custodial sentences? The fact is that she acknowledged that she was over the limit, and nowhere does she complain that she wasn't. She simply stated that she was surprised one drink (poured by another person) had taken her over. She said that she didn't think she was over the limit when she was stopped. She's pleased guilty, she's accepting her punishment, and that really is that. Oh, and it was The Argus that sought her out, not vice versa.[/p][/quote]According to legal websites covering drink driving, the combination of a guilty plea combined with a plea of mitigation can really make a difference to the length of driving ban for drink driving. Mrs.Teague was therefore shrewd and will be back on our roads in no time at all.[/p][/quote]What could the mitigation for driving too slowly, with no lights and over the limit, and being 85 when reactions must be slower than a younger persons[/p][/quote]Saga and AgeUK would argue that their lower insurance premiums proves they are the safest drivers on the road. I have doubts about that, and assume that that stat is obviously skewed by a lack of miles driven (per driver, per annum) by that age group. Withdean-er
  • Score: 6

5:10pm Mon 14 Jul 14

michael505 says...

john newman wrote:
Sorry but the Police are right here. Not sure the long ban is necessary though, perhaps some discretion is needed in this area if it is a first offence.
12 months is the minimum. No discretion there
[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: Sorry but the Police are right here. Not sure the long ban is necessary though, perhaps some discretion is needed in this area if it is a first offence.[/p][/quote]12 months is the minimum. No discretion there michael505
  • Score: 1

5:13pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Zeta Function says...

The sooner they roll out computer driven car services in cities the better. Especially for seniors.
The sooner they roll out computer driven car services in cities the better. Especially for seniors. Zeta Function
  • Score: -2

5:14pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Jules boy says...

Drink aside, I work in a petrol station and I see far too many elderly people driving when clearly their reflexes are not sharp enough and take 10 mins to find a means of payment.

It should become compulsory to retake the driving test at 70 years old - I'd be more than happy to do it if I should reach that milestone and know it's time to stop if I were to fail.
Drink aside, I work in a petrol station and I see far too many elderly people driving when clearly their reflexes are not sharp enough and take 10 mins to find a means of payment. It should become compulsory to retake the driving test at 70 years old - I'd be more than happy to do it if I should reach that milestone and know it's time to stop if I were to fail. Jules boy
  • Score: 10

5:15pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

michael505 wrote:
john newman wrote:
Sorry but the Police are right here. Not sure the long ban is necessary though, perhaps some discretion is needed in this area if it is a first offence.
12 months is the minimum. No discretion there
Actually, a ban isn't mandatory.

From https://www.gov.uk/d
rink-driving-penalti
es

"Driving or attempting to drive while above the legal limit or unfit through drink

You may get:

6 months’ imprisonment
up to £5,000 fine
a driving ban for at least 1 year (3 years if convicted twice in 10 years)"

The crucial word being 'may' - Expressing possibility.
[quote][p][bold]michael505[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: Sorry but the Police are right here. Not sure the long ban is necessary though, perhaps some discretion is needed in this area if it is a first offence.[/p][/quote]12 months is the minimum. No discretion there[/p][/quote]Actually, a ban isn't mandatory. From https://www.gov.uk/d rink-driving-penalti es "Driving or attempting to drive while above the legal limit or unfit through drink You may get: 6 months’ imprisonment up to £5,000 fine a driving ban for at least 1 year (3 years if convicted twice in 10 years)" The crucial word being 'may' - Expressing possibility. stevo!!
  • Score: -7

6:03pm Mon 14 Jul 14

NathanAdler says...

Silly old bag can not see the wood through the trees. Let's hope her benefits-loading family never get killed or maimed by a reckless drunk driver!
Silly old bag can not see the wood through the trees. Let's hope her benefits-loading family never get killed or maimed by a reckless drunk driver! NathanAdler
  • Score: -6

6:40pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

NathanAdler wrote:
Silly old bag can not see the wood through the trees. Let's hope her benefits-loading family never get killed or maimed by a reckless drunk driver!
Are they really on benefits?
I thought folk on benefits found it near impossible to put bread on the table, but these can afford vodka, court fines, running a car, and she's wearing a really expensive looking necklace.
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: Silly old bag can not see the wood through the trees. Let's hope her benefits-loading family never get killed or maimed by a reckless drunk driver![/p][/quote]Are they really on benefits? I thought folk on benefits found it near impossible to put bread on the table, but these can afford vodka, court fines, running a car, and she's wearing a really expensive looking necklace. Withdean-er
  • Score: 3

6:57pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Tom V says...

john newman wrote:
Sorry but the Police are right here. Not sure the long ban is necessary though, perhaps some discretion is needed in this area if it is a first offence.
I don't know if the drink-driver who crushed me with his car was a first-time offender or not. It doesn't matter as the result is the same and I'll never be able to walk properly again.

It just takes one time to maim or kill someone. Her refusal to accept what she did was wrong is worrying as it suggests she hasn't learnt and could drink-drive again.
[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: Sorry but the Police are right here. Not sure the long ban is necessary though, perhaps some discretion is needed in this area if it is a first offence.[/p][/quote]I don't know if the drink-driver who crushed me with his car was a first-time offender or not. It doesn't matter as the result is the same and I'll never be able to walk properly again. It just takes one time to maim or kill someone. Her refusal to accept what she did was wrong is worrying as it suggests she hasn't learnt and could drink-drive again. Tom V
  • Score: 12

7:02pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

" Her refusal to accept what she did was wrong is worrying as it suggests she hasn't learnt and could drink-drive again."

She hasn't refused to do anything. She accepts that she was over the limit and that the limit exists.
" Her refusal to accept what she did was wrong is worrying as it suggests she hasn't learnt and could drink-drive again." She hasn't refused to do anything. She accepts that she was over the limit and that the limit exists. stevo!!
  • Score: -7

8:34pm Mon 14 Jul 14

NathanAdler says...

Withdean-er wrote:
NathanAdler wrote:
Silly old bag can not see the wood through the trees. Let's hope her benefits-loading family never get killed or maimed by a reckless drunk driver!
Are they really on benefits?
I thought folk on benefits found it near impossible to put bread on the table, but these can afford vodka, court fines, running a car, and she's wearing a really expensive looking necklace.
Of course they're on benefits!!

The whole family sound like scum.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: Silly old bag can not see the wood through the trees. Let's hope her benefits-loading family never get killed or maimed by a reckless drunk driver![/p][/quote]Are they really on benefits? I thought folk on benefits found it near impossible to put bread on the table, but these can afford vodka, court fines, running a car, and she's wearing a really expensive looking necklace.[/p][/quote]Of course they're on benefits!! The whole family sound like scum. NathanAdler
  • Score: -3

8:54pm Mon 14 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Perhaps you should consider you could have KILLED a young family ,but hey you did nothing wrong !!!!!!. At 85 im amazed you have learnt NOTHING .
Perhaps you should consider you could have KILLED a young family ,but hey you did nothing wrong !!!!!!. At 85 im amazed you have learnt NOTHING . tug509
  • Score: 6

8:58pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

tug509 wrote:
Perhaps you should consider you could have KILLED a young family ,but hey you did nothing wrong !!!!!!. At 85 im amazed you have learnt NOTHING .
She knew to drive slowly along the A27.

I'm amazed at the number of drivers who seem unaware of that.

She could have killed the population of Jersey, too......but she didn't.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Perhaps you should consider you could have KILLED a young family ,but hey you did nothing wrong !!!!!!. At 85 im amazed you have learnt NOTHING .[/p][/quote]She knew to drive slowly along the A27. I'm amazed at the number of drivers who seem unaware of that. She could have killed the population of Jersey, too......but she didn't. stevo!!
  • Score: -8

9:11pm Mon 14 Jul 14

wippasnapper says...

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again it should be 0 limit i.e. you want to drink you dote drive simple as that and you’d think an 82 year old would have more comment sense now I wonder if the police explained to hear that she will have to retake her test before being allowed back on the roads after loosing her license?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again it should be 0 limit i.e. you want to drink you dote drive simple as that and you’d think an 82 year old would have more comment sense now I wonder if the police explained to hear that she will have to retake her test before being allowed back on the roads after loosing her license? wippasnapper
  • Score: 4

9:55pm Mon 14 Jul 14

sussexram40 says...

NO excuses. She drank and then drove a car. And clearly was affected by the alcohol - or does she always drive slowly on the A27 without lights on at night?
Should be a lifetime bvan in my view.
If you drink, you don't drive. Simple.
NO excuses. She drank and then drove a car. And clearly was affected by the alcohol - or does she always drive slowly on the A27 without lights on at night? Should be a lifetime bvan in my view. If you drink, you don't drive. Simple. sussexram40
  • Score: 8

10:10pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

sussexram40 wrote:
NO excuses. She drank and then drove a car. And clearly was affected by the alcohol - or does she always drive slowly on the A27 without lights on at night?
Should be a lifetime bvan in my view.
If you drink, you don't drive. Simple.
She stated she wasn't affected by the drink, so you cannot claim otherwise.

The police who pulled her didn't do so for her lack of control. She was driving without lights, which is something I see quite a lot around twilight.

The law allows us to drive after alcohol.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: NO excuses. She drank and then drove a car. And clearly was affected by the alcohol - or does she always drive slowly on the A27 without lights on at night? Should be a lifetime bvan in my view. If you drink, you don't drive. Simple.[/p][/quote]She stated she wasn't affected by the drink, so you cannot claim otherwise. The police who pulled her didn't do so for her lack of control. She was driving without lights, which is something I see quite a lot around twilight. The law allows us to drive after alcohol. stevo!!
  • Score: -14

11:21pm Mon 14 Jul 14

greeg3 says...

We need to make a total example of this OAP,who probably hasn't got a lot of time remaining on this planet.I suggest selling her car and using the proceeds to demolish her house and throw her on the street.Then,rope her to a horse and drag her through Brighton town centre.That'll deter the rest of us,after all,it is drink driving !
We need to make a total example of this OAP,who probably hasn't got a lot of time remaining on this planet.I suggest selling her car and using the proceeds to demolish her house and throw her on the street.Then,rope her to a horse and drag her through Brighton town centre.That'll deter the rest of us,after all,it is drink driving ! greeg3
  • Score: -1

1:43am Tue 15 Jul 14

vogon1 says...

" i did nothing wrong "
Oh really? Tell that to the family of paul novak. Stupid, selfish, arrogant woman
" i did nothing wrong " Oh really? Tell that to the family of paul novak. Stupid, selfish, arrogant woman vogon1
  • Score: 6

8:21am Tue 15 Jul 14

Nosfaratu says...

OOps, sorry I'm late, is this thread about dress sense for the over Eighties?
OOps, sorry I'm late, is this thread about dress sense for the over Eighties? Nosfaratu
  • Score: 5

8:22am Tue 15 Jul 14

Old Ladys Gin says...

Perhaps it is time the Teague family sat down and had a frank discussion about their attitude to and possibly problems with drink.
Perhaps it is time the Teague family sat down and had a frank discussion about their attitude to and possibly problems with drink. Old Ladys Gin
  • Score: 11

8:26am Tue 15 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

stevo!! wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
NO excuses. She drank and then drove a car. And clearly was affected by the alcohol - or does she always drive slowly on the A27 without lights on at night?
Should be a lifetime bvan in my view.
If you drink, you don't drive. Simple.
She stated she wasn't affected by the drink, so you cannot claim otherwise.

The police who pulled her didn't do so for her lack of control. She was driving without lights, which is something I see quite a lot around twilight.

The law allows us to drive after alcohol.
Baloney.
The law is based on science, not the ramblings of a convicted drink driver. Driving without lights on gave the Police the opportunity to check for other offences, and they found it with further law breaking by driving whilst under the influence of alcohol over the legal limits.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: NO excuses. She drank and then drove a car. And clearly was affected by the alcohol - or does she always drive slowly on the A27 without lights on at night? Should be a lifetime bvan in my view. If you drink, you don't drive. Simple.[/p][/quote]She stated she wasn't affected by the drink, so you cannot claim otherwise. The police who pulled her didn't do so for her lack of control. She was driving without lights, which is something I see quite a lot around twilight. The law allows us to drive after alcohol.[/p][/quote]Baloney. The law is based on science, not the ramblings of a convicted drink driver. Driving without lights on gave the Police the opportunity to check for other offences, and they found it with further law breaking by driving whilst under the influence of alcohol over the legal limits. Withdean-er
  • Score: 14

8:49am Tue 15 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

"Baloney.
The law is based on science, not the ramblings of a convicted drink driver. Driving without lights on gave the Police the opportunity to check for other offences, and they found it with further law breaking by driving whilst under the influence of alcohol over the legal limits."

You've repeated what I said on the matter.

Are you accusing yourself of posting ' baloney'?

I'd seek help with that.
"Baloney. The law is based on science, not the ramblings of a convicted drink driver. Driving without lights on gave the Police the opportunity to check for other offences, and they found it with further law breaking by driving whilst under the influence of alcohol over the legal limits." You've repeated what I said on the matter. Are you accusing yourself of posting ' baloney'? I'd seek help with that. stevo!!
  • Score: -11

8:50am Tue 15 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

vogon1 wrote:
" i did nothing wrong "
Oh really? Tell that to the family of paul novak. Stupid, selfish, arrogant woman
How was Paul Novak involved in this?
[quote][p][bold]vogon1[/bold] wrote: " i did nothing wrong " Oh really? Tell that to the family of paul novak. Stupid, selfish, arrogant woman[/p][/quote]How was Paul Novak involved in this? stevo!!
  • Score: -10

8:52am Tue 15 Jul 14

hoveguyactually says...

Growing old disgracefully!
Growing old disgracefully! hoveguyactually
  • Score: 7

2:12pm Tue 15 Jul 14

truescouser says...

there should be a zero limit on alcohol before driving - I don't understand why you are allowed to drink at all, because people metabolise at different rates. one size does not fit all. as regards the woman in the story - what an obnoxious cretin. if a drink driver is ever responsible for the death/injury of any of my family they would be marked men/women. these people make me so angry.
there should be a zero limit on alcohol before driving - I don't understand why you are allowed to drink at all, because people metabolise at different rates. one size does not fit all. as regards the woman in the story - what an obnoxious cretin. if a drink driver is ever responsible for the death/injury of any of my family they would be marked men/women. these people make me so angry. truescouser
  • Score: 1

5:56pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Patsyr says...

If I had just been banned for drink driving I would be keeping my head down and feeling very ashamed. This lady seems to see it as "her 5 minutes of fame" and enjoying the attention , almost a local minor celebrity.

Pity she didn't have time to dress up for the camera.
If I had just been banned for drink driving I would be keeping my head down and feeling very ashamed. This lady seems to see it as "her 5 minutes of fame" and enjoying the attention , almost a local minor celebrity. Pity she didn't have time to dress up for the camera. Patsyr
  • Score: 8

6:52pm Tue 15 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Patsyr wrote:
If I had just been banned for drink driving I would be keeping my head down and feeling very ashamed. This lady seems to see it as "her 5 minutes of fame" and enjoying the attention , almost a local minor celebrity.

Pity she didn't have time to dress up for the camera.
What have her clothes got to do with any of this?

Perhaps she is taking the opportunity to explain the circumstances of her offence. Most people who feel hard done by will want to explain their actions.
[quote][p][bold]Patsyr[/bold] wrote: If I had just been banned for drink driving I would be keeping my head down and feeling very ashamed. This lady seems to see it as "her 5 minutes of fame" and enjoying the attention , almost a local minor celebrity. Pity she didn't have time to dress up for the camera.[/p][/quote]What have her clothes got to do with any of this? Perhaps she is taking the opportunity to explain the circumstances of her offence. Most people who feel hard done by will want to explain their actions. stevo!!
  • Score: -7

10:20pm Tue 15 Jul 14

NickBrt says...

Daft old bat.
Daft old bat. NickBrt
  • Score: 6

10:09am Fri 18 Jul 14

Joe Riddle says...

Where's Upper Sompting?
Where's Upper Sompting? Joe Riddle
  • Score: 1

12:37am Sun 20 Jul 14

The Real Justin Case says...

Joe Riddle wrote:
Where's Upper Sompting?
Why do you ask? Are you a vodka salesman? You could do better in Shoreham. Betty Teague has nothing to do for a year now so she could neck a few cases while she is feeling so down.
[quote][p][bold]Joe Riddle[/bold] wrote: Where's Upper Sompting?[/p][/quote]Why do you ask? Are you a vodka salesman? You could do better in Shoreham. Betty Teague has nothing to do for a year now so she could neck a few cases while she is feeling so down. The Real Justin Case
  • Score: 1

12:38am Sun 20 Jul 14

The Real Justin Case says...

Joe Riddle wrote:
Where's Upper Sompting?
Why do you ask? Are you a vodka salesman? You could do better in Shoreham. Betty Teague has nothing to do for a year now so she could neck a few cases while she is feeling so down.
[quote][p][bold]Joe Riddle[/bold] wrote: Where's Upper Sompting?[/p][/quote]Why do you ask? Are you a vodka salesman? You could do better in Shoreham. Betty Teague has nothing to do for a year now so she could neck a few cases while she is feeling so down. The Real Justin Case
  • Score: 0

7:17am Sun 20 Jul 14

tug509 says...

The Real Justin Case wrote:
Joe Riddle wrote:
Where's Upper Sompting?
Why do you ask? Are you a vodka salesman? You could do better in Shoreham. Betty Teague has nothing to do for a year now so she could neck a few cases while she is feeling so down.
Arrogant people like her who believe they can do no wrong don't listen or adhere to the law ,that's just for the rest of us , I`d bet good money she drives anyway .
[quote][p][bold]The Real Justin Case[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Riddle[/bold] wrote: Where's Upper Sompting?[/p][/quote]Why do you ask? Are you a vodka salesman? You could do better in Shoreham. Betty Teague has nothing to do for a year now so she could neck a few cases while she is feeling so down.[/p][/quote]Arrogant people like her who believe they can do no wrong don't listen or adhere to the law ,that's just for the rest of us , I`d bet good money she drives anyway . tug509
  • Score: 0
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