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Parts of Brighton and Hove 'forgotten' by bin crews

The Argus: Anger as bin crews ‘forget key parts of our city’ Anger as bin crews ‘forget key parts of our city’

“Forgotten” suburbs of Brighton and Hove are bearing the brunt of the missed bin collections during last week’s strike.

Streets in Hangleton, Mile Oak, Portslade and elsewhere were still left with bins piled high with rubbish and recycling yesterday, with bags spilling onto the pavement.

Familiar It is a familiar scene for those living in the city – subjected to mounds of rubbish and divided over whether to blame the Government for its cuts or Brighton and Hove City Council for its management of the Cityclean service.

George Mower, 67, of Hardwick Road in Hangleton, says it’s the “same old story”.

He said: “We always get forgotten – we are the forgotten area.

“They should just disband Cityclean and we should dump our rubbish in the street.”

“I can’t understand why they strike.”

Mr Mower said changes need to be made so that bin bags are not piled high on the pavement when collections stop.

“Someone needs to get a handle on it,” he added.

Paul Bridges, of Poplar Avenue in Hangleton, said his bins had not been collected since the strike: “It’s disgusting considering what we pay,” he said on Twitter.

Dawn Barnett, the Conservative ward councillor for Hangleton and Knoll, said the service was normally fine.

“The bin men are usually very good,” she said.

“The strike has inconvenienced people but you have to have sympathy with Cityclean.

“The majority of our residents comment on what a good refuse crew we have up here.”

Portslade has also been affected by the strike, with recent hot weather adding to the problem.

Harry Miles, of Valley Road, in Portslade, said: “One is now overwhelmed by the stench of festering household waste walking through Drove Crescent and surrounding streets in North Portslade because many residents simply leave rubbish piling up in the street.

“Common sense should now dictate that the rubbish be kept off the street out of the sun until the next usual collection date.”

The overspill appears mainly contained to the west of the city, with Whitehawk and Bevendean in good order and Woodingdean not having the same problem yesterday.

Freshfield Road in Brighton, the long incline linking Eastern Road to the top of Elm Grove, did not have the same level of rubbish either despite having a section with a Thursday collection.

One resident, who did not want to be named, said the council picks up her rubbish “as and when they want to”.

She said: “Two weeks is no good for any of us. These bins are too small for us and if the bags are left out the seagulls rip them open.”

Elsewhere Hollingdean, which is on a Thursday bin round, others were waiting for a collection.

A spokesman for Brighton and Hove City Council said every suburb gets the same standard of service and “that standard should be high”.

He added: “There are likely to be other areas with a backlog caused by the strike, which we’ll be clearing as soon as possible.”

‘Don’t hold your breath’ The “forgotten” streets are due a collection today.

The GMB union has said that because of the double amount of rubbish to be collected today, it is unlikely it will all get picked up.

And this could have a knock-on effect for other areas with collections tomorrow as the slack is taken up.

Mark Turner, branch secretary of the GMB union in Brighton and Hove, said there had been no discussions before the strike as to how the work missed on the day of industrial action would be covered.

He said: “In the past crews would be asked to pick up the work the following day.

“This time the council has not had that discussion with us.

“We are surprised, one week on, that the council has not called us into a meeting to discuss how we recover this work.”

Mr Turner was not confident that all of today’s outstanding refuse would be collected.

“I wouldn’t hold your breath,” he added.

And he said the problems could get even worse if there are breakdowns or a shortage of crews.

“Our members will do a normal day’s work. They will not be doing two days’ work,” he added.

He said recycling would be in an even worse state as it was collected fortnightly.

Anyone due a recycling collection last Thursday is not now due to get it collected until next Thursday, July 24, meaning no collection for a month.

The council confirmed that last Thursday’s national strike meant rubbish and recycling collections were missed, causing a backlog.

A spokesman said there would be extra rubbish collections today and extra recycling collections next Thursday to compensate.

Anita Cacchioli, head of city infrastructure, said: “We would ask residents to put out their rubbish and recycling for collection as normal and we apologise for any inconvenience caused.”

NOT every backlog is being linked to the effects of last week’s strike.
Lynne Jackson, 58, of Links Close in Portslade, appeared in The Argus on January 7 when her road was filled with rubbish but says the mess is worse this time, having built up over six weeks.

 

She said: “People are flytipping here now, thinking it is a tip.
“There is muck from split bags. I have tried to get hold of Cityclean but no one is doing anything. I am fed up with it.”

 

Like Mr Mower, of Hangleton, Miss Jackson felt Portslade was also a
“forgotten” area for refuse collection.

 

More centrally, Alan Donald, of New England Road in Brighton, said wheelie bins in his street had not been emptied for three weeks, despite him contacting the council every day.
On the point of missed collections and extended delays, a spokesman for Brighton and Hove City Council said: “Reports of missed collections are being passed to managers for investigation.”

 

Last Thursday’s strike in Brighton and Hove saw one of the biggest gatherings of picketing workers in the country.
 

More than a million workers nationwide downed tools in the largest one-day strike over pay by public sector employees since 2010.
 

Conservative councillors in Brighton were critical of the strike, questioning its mandate and raising
concerns about the impact on residents.

 

Group leader Geoffrey Theobald said the low turnout for the march reflected the lack of
mandate for the action.
And he said the missed bin collections will have a knock-on effect.

 

Brighton Pavilion MP Caroline Lucas said the coalition’s austerity policy was to blame.
She said it is “simply unacceptable” that workers continue to suffer pay cuts and freezes and promised to continue to lobby the
government to increase public sector pay.

 

The rubbish and recycling problems have been compounded by new rounds introduced last October.
 

Unions repeatedly warned the council that the changes, which saw a number of vehicles taken off the road to save money, have left workers with too much to do.
While the threat of strike action in this case, lifted on April 25 this year, was down to issues with Cityclean, the recent national strike over pay and pensions had the same impact on local
services.

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11:13am Thu 17 Jul 14

theargusissoinformative says...

Is there an absence of Polish labour at Cityclean? The sooner they get their wings clipped, the better.
Is there an absence of Polish labour at Cityclean? The sooner they get their wings clipped, the better. theargusissoinformative
  • Score: -5

11:23am Thu 17 Jul 14

Tom V says...

This is normal in many areas and it's up to the residents to report missed collections whenever they happen, either by phone or online. Those dealing with the calls even recognised my voice thanks to (polite) weekly calls for missed rubbish and fortnightly for missed recycling. If I didn't ring, they'd reprimand me as they can't take action unless they're aware of problems. It's still hit and miss but regular reporting – after 18 months – finally made a difference.
This is normal in many areas and it's up to the residents to report missed collections whenever they happen, either by phone or online. Those dealing with the calls even recognised my voice thanks to (polite) weekly calls for missed rubbish and fortnightly for missed recycling. If I didn't ring, they'd reprimand me as they can't take action unless they're aware of problems. It's still hit and miss but regular reporting – after 18 months – finally made a difference. Tom V
  • Score: -5

11:27am Thu 17 Jul 14

theargusissoinformative says...

Tom V wrote:
This is normal in many areas and it's up to the residents to report missed collections whenever they happen, either by phone or online. Those dealing with the calls even recognised my voice thanks to (polite) weekly calls for missed rubbish and fortnightly for missed recycling. If I didn't ring, they'd reprimand me as they can't take action unless they're aware of problems. It's still hit and miss but regular reporting – after 18 months – finally made a difference.
You really shouldn't have to do this. This is an issue in itself, because you must have better things to do with your time.
[quote][p][bold]Tom V[/bold] wrote: This is normal in many areas and it's up to the residents to report missed collections whenever they happen, either by phone or online. Those dealing with the calls even recognised my voice thanks to (polite) weekly calls for missed rubbish and fortnightly for missed recycling. If I didn't ring, they'd reprimand me as they can't take action unless they're aware of problems. It's still hit and miss but regular reporting – after 18 months – finally made a difference.[/p][/quote]You really shouldn't have to do this. This is an issue in itself, because you must have better things to do with your time. theargusissoinformative
  • Score: 13

11:29am Thu 17 Jul 14

Fight_Back says...

I'm sure I'll get tonnes of thumbs down but the service in Hangleton is usually excellent. One week has been missed due to the strikes and I'm sure they will pick up today. Total non-story by the Argus.

If you can't fit two weeks rubbish in your wheelie bin then you're being far too wasteful.
I'm sure I'll get tonnes of thumbs down but the service in Hangleton is usually excellent. One week has been missed due to the strikes and I'm sure they will pick up today. Total non-story by the Argus. If you can't fit two weeks rubbish in your wheelie bin then you're being far too wasteful. Fight_Back
  • Score: -8

11:33am Thu 17 Jul 14

Martha Gunn says...

Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015! Martha Gunn
  • Score: 17

11:36am Thu 17 Jul 14

s&k says...

Can someone clarify - is Cityclean a separate company working to a contract with B&HCC or is actually part of B&HCC?
Can someone clarify - is Cityclean a separate company working to a contract with B&HCC or is actually part of B&HCC? s&k
  • Score: 2

11:40am Thu 17 Jul 14

Fight_Back says...

s&k wrote:
Can someone clarify - is Cityclean a separate company working to a contract with B&HCC or is actually part of B&HCC?
Part of the council.
[quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: Can someone clarify - is Cityclean a separate company working to a contract with B&HCC or is actually part of B&HCC?[/p][/quote]Part of the council. Fight_Back
  • Score: 7

11:47am Thu 17 Jul 14

Just trying to earn a crust says...

More proof, if any was needed, that Brighton and Hove have a council that is unable to do the job required of them
More proof, if any was needed, that Brighton and Hove have a council that is unable to do the job required of them Just trying to earn a crust
  • Score: 22

11:53am Thu 17 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

I understand that during the last bin strike, certain councilors kindly offered to store our waste at their own propertes. I wonder if they would offer the same service again?
I understand that during the last bin strike, certain councilors kindly offered to store our waste at their own propertes. I wonder if they would offer the same service again? We love Red Billy
  • Score: 9

12:02pm Thu 17 Jul 14

jyan says...

Tom V wrote:
This is normal in many areas and it's up to the residents to report missed collections whenever they happen, either by phone or online. Those dealing with the calls even recognised my voice thanks to (polite) weekly calls for missed rubbish and fortnightly for missed recycling. If I didn't ring, they'd reprimand me as they can't take action unless they're aware of problems. It's still hit and miss but regular reporting – after 18 months – finally made a difference.
The council said on their website last Thursday they will not be back to collect any missed collections due to the strike and the next collections will be following Thursday (today). Reporting it to the council would be pointless then unless you want to fill up their in boxes with complaints (which is an idea for some). However, it may have been useful for the council to make it clear to residents on Wednesday last week (or earlier) that there would be no collections on Thursday and they would not be back until following Thursday as there may have been less left out in the meantime.
[quote][p][bold]Tom V[/bold] wrote: This is normal in many areas and it's up to the residents to report missed collections whenever they happen, either by phone or online. Those dealing with the calls even recognised my voice thanks to (polite) weekly calls for missed rubbish and fortnightly for missed recycling. If I didn't ring, they'd reprimand me as they can't take action unless they're aware of problems. It's still hit and miss but regular reporting – after 18 months – finally made a difference.[/p][/quote]The council said on their website last Thursday they will not be back to collect any missed collections due to the strike and the next collections will be following Thursday (today). Reporting it to the council would be pointless then unless you want to fill up their in boxes with complaints (which is an idea for some). However, it may have been useful for the council to make it clear to residents on Wednesday last week (or earlier) that there would be no collections on Thursday and they would not be back until following Thursday as there may have been less left out in the meantime. jyan
  • Score: 12

12:06pm Thu 17 Jul 14

6519dl says...

So the advice from the Council last week was that the re-cycling would be collected on the next date.So believing the blurb I didnt put it out....only for the re-cycling to be collected on Tuesday !!.....I despair !
So the advice from the Council last week was that the re-cycling would be collected on the next date.So believing the blurb I didnt put it out....only for the re-cycling to be collected on Tuesday !!.....I despair ! 6519dl
  • Score: 3

12:17pm Thu 17 Jul 14

spa301 says...

Fortunately moved out of Brighton's clutches and into Lewes's in Jan and can only say their services are superb. Even bank holidays don't alter their schedule as Mondays are picked up on the Tuesday.
Fortunately moved out of Brighton's clutches and into Lewes's in Jan and can only say their services are superb. Even bank holidays don't alter their schedule as Mondays are picked up on the Tuesday. spa301
  • Score: 6

12:33pm Thu 17 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

Martha Gunn wrote:
Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!!
[quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015![/p][/quote]As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -13

12:40pm Thu 17 Jul 14

spa301 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Martha Gunn wrote:
Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!!
So how does Lewes council manage?
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015![/p][/quote]As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]So how does Lewes council manage? spa301
  • Score: 4

12:40pm Thu 17 Jul 14

spa301 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Martha Gunn wrote:
Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!!
So how does Lewes council manage?
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015![/p][/quote]As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]So how does Lewes council manage? spa301
  • Score: 4

12:40pm Thu 17 Jul 14

spa301 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Martha Gunn wrote:
Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!!
So how does Lewes council manage?
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015![/p][/quote]As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]So how does Lewes council manage? spa301
  • Score: 3

12:41pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Littll3Mojo says...

My partner's had a number of occasions where the bin men couldn't be bothered to take the bin away.

He's disabled and last year couldn't get outside in his wheelchair to put the bin out. He contacted the council many times, to arrange a special pick up, i.e. they get the bin from the bottom of the driveway rather than the pavement, which proved too much for the bin men to take and they refused to pick up the rubbish. Resulting in maggott infestation and a month on uncollected rubbish.

When called back to pick up the ignored rubbish, the lovely bin men were verbally abusive to him. Luckily he now has carers that can help, so his pesonal bin strike (or should I say disability discrimination) has stopped.

Shame he has to pay twice (council and carers) for the priviledge of having his rubbish removed.
My partner's had a number of occasions where the bin men couldn't be bothered to take the bin away. He's disabled and last year couldn't get outside in his wheelchair to put the bin out. He contacted the council many times, to arrange a special pick up, i.e. they get the bin from the bottom of the driveway rather than the pavement, which proved too much for the bin men to take and they refused to pick up the rubbish. Resulting in maggott infestation and a month on uncollected rubbish. When called back to pick up the ignored rubbish, the lovely bin men were verbally abusive to him. Luckily he now has carers that can help, so his pesonal bin strike (or should I say disability discrimination) has stopped. Shame he has to pay twice (council and carers) for the priviledge of having his rubbish removed. Littll3Mojo
  • Score: 11

12:41pm Thu 17 Jul 14

spa301 says...

Apologies for the 3 posts. The Argus site can unresponsive at times and then leaps into action!
Apologies for the 3 posts. The Argus site can unresponsive at times and then leaps into action! spa301
  • Score: -2

12:42pm Thu 17 Jul 14

FatherTed11 says...

Thanks goodness for the 5.9% council tax increase. I'm sure this will all be a thing of the past after that.....
Thanks goodness for the 5.9% council tax increase. I'm sure this will all be a thing of the past after that..... FatherTed11
  • Score: 2

1:25pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Fight_Back says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Martha Gunn wrote:
Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!!
That's not really representing the facts though. The council decided a number of carts needed replacing roughly around the time of the round re-design. Instead of waiting for the new delivery before removing the old carts they went ahead at the same time as the re-organisation. The botched re-organisation along with some pretty poor project management resulted in many missed collections. Some blame can indeed be blamed on government cuts but other issues can be squarely laid at the feet of the council.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015![/p][/quote]As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]That's not really representing the facts though. The council decided a number of carts needed replacing roughly around the time of the round re-design. Instead of waiting for the new delivery before removing the old carts they went ahead at the same time as the re-organisation. The botched re-organisation along with some pretty poor project management resulted in many missed collections. Some blame can indeed be blamed on government cuts but other issues can be squarely laid at the feet of the council. Fight_Back
  • Score: 7

1:33pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Phani Tikkala says...

Around Preston Park station we haven't had a single recycling collection on the right day for 3 months or more. Sometimes the boxes get left for 3 weeks between collections. Nice!

Meanwhile instead of getting the basics right the green morons are still spending like it's going out of fashion on more useless cycle lanes/"improvements" (like, yeah) to road layouts (to slow traffic to a crawl) and the Kitkat Monument at the West Pier
Around Preston Park station we haven't had a single recycling collection on the right day for 3 months or more. Sometimes the boxes get left for 3 weeks between collections. Nice! Meanwhile instead of getting the basics right the green morons are still spending like it's going out of fashion on more useless cycle lanes/"improvements" (like, yeah) to road layouts (to slow traffic to a crawl) and the Kitkat Monument at the West Pier Phani Tikkala
  • Score: 12

1:37pm Thu 17 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

spa301 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Martha Gunn wrote:
Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!!
So how does Lewes council manage?
I can't say how Lewes manages but it is self-evident that serious cuts have had to be made to balance the books and the removal of a number of dustcarts in conjunction with revised rounds was deemed necessary - of course the situation has not been helped by the binmens industrial actions one of which was due to the removal of pay differentials that had long lingered under both previous Tory and Labour administrations with no resolution and the latest strike which was due to Tory/ Labour cuts!!
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015![/p][/quote]As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]So how does Lewes council manage?[/p][/quote]I can't say how Lewes manages but it is self-evident that serious cuts have had to be made to balance the books and the removal of a number of dustcarts in conjunction with revised rounds was deemed necessary - of course the situation has not been helped by the binmens industrial actions one of which was due to the removal of pay differentials that had long lingered under both previous Tory and Labour administrations with no resolution and the latest strike which was due to Tory/ Labour cuts!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -9

2:00pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
spa301 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Martha Gunn wrote:
Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!!
So how does Lewes council manage?
I can't say how Lewes manages but it is self-evident that serious cuts have had to be made to balance the books and the removal of a number of dustcarts in conjunction with revised rounds was deemed necessary - of course the situation has not been helped by the binmens industrial actions one of which was due to the removal of pay differentials that had long lingered under both previous Tory and Labour administrations with no resolution and the latest strike which was due to Tory/ Labour cuts!!
I don't generally comment on here but having read your posts on this subject I had to. Is it really any surprise the hatred felt towards the greens when representatives like you spew utter drivel, you accept zero responsibility, even the inability to get the bins emptied is now not our councils fault but Tory/lab of past, or the bin men themselves. You can't accept you are useless, Lewes copes because they have the right people in the right place doing their jobs effectively, without wasting money hand over fist, cutting essential services then blaming everyone else around them for their own incompetence.

And your little strap line of 'you couldn't make it up' well we're not, this city is a mess, and run by a council who have zero idea how to run a city effectively, and they blame everyone else instead of pulling their heads out of their green ar**s and doing the job their electorate expect and deserve. You should do the right thing and Hand power over to a party that can maybe take responsibility for their actions and start clearing up your mess.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015![/p][/quote]As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]So how does Lewes council manage?[/p][/quote]I can't say how Lewes manages but it is self-evident that serious cuts have had to be made to balance the books and the removal of a number of dustcarts in conjunction with revised rounds was deemed necessary - of course the situation has not been helped by the binmens industrial actions one of which was due to the removal of pay differentials that had long lingered under both previous Tory and Labour administrations with no resolution and the latest strike which was due to Tory/ Labour cuts!![/p][/quote]I don't generally comment on here but having read your posts on this subject I had to. Is it really any surprise the hatred felt towards the greens when representatives like you spew utter drivel, you accept zero responsibility, even the inability to get the bins emptied is now not our councils fault but Tory/lab of past, or the bin men themselves. You can't accept you are useless, Lewes copes because they have the right people in the right place doing their jobs effectively, without wasting money hand over fist, cutting essential services then blaming everyone else around them for their own incompetence. And your little strap line of 'you couldn't make it up' well we're not, this city is a mess, and run by a council who have zero idea how to run a city effectively, and they blame everyone else instead of pulling their heads out of their green ar**s and doing the job their electorate expect and deserve. You should do the right thing and Hand power over to a party that can maybe take responsibility for their actions and start clearing up your mess. Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 10

2:14pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Goldenwight says...

“The strike has inconvenienced people but you have to have sympathy with Cityclean."

Why, exactly, should I feel sympathy for them? They are failing to provide a service. If my MP failed to turn up to a single days debate at Westminster, did nothing whatever for his constituents and concentrated on enriching himself at public expense should I also feel sorry for them?
“The strike has inconvenienced people but you have to have sympathy with Cityclean." Why, exactly, should I feel sympathy for them? They are failing to provide a service. If my MP failed to turn up to a single days debate at Westminster, did nothing whatever for his constituents and concentrated on enriching himself at public expense should I also feel sorry for them? Goldenwight
  • Score: 0

2:16pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
spa301 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Martha Gunn wrote:
Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!!
So how does Lewes council manage?
I can't say how Lewes manages but it is self-evident that serious cuts have had to be made to balance the books and the removal of a number of dustcarts in conjunction with revised rounds was deemed necessary - of course the situation has not been helped by the binmens industrial actions one of which was due to the removal of pay differentials that had long lingered under both previous Tory and Labour administrations with no resolution and the latest strike which was due to Tory/ Labour cuts!!
Amazing how my comment is immediately removed? Argus please do let me know how that could be deemed at all offensive???? Let me ask you again 'Bluenose', is Brighton council capable of accepting responsibility for anything rather than constantly blaming past Tory/labour? Lewes Council operate effectively due to having the right people in the right place doing their jobs effectively. If austerity cuts are to blame then Lewes council would be facing the same issues with rubbish as would entire uk as austerity effects all councils. The truth is the green led council is incompetent, and should stand down so someone else can start cleaning up the mess you have made of Brighton and hove.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015![/p][/quote]As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]So how does Lewes council manage?[/p][/quote]I can't say how Lewes manages but it is self-evident that serious cuts have had to be made to balance the books and the removal of a number of dustcarts in conjunction with revised rounds was deemed necessary - of course the situation has not been helped by the binmens industrial actions one of which was due to the removal of pay differentials that had long lingered under both previous Tory and Labour administrations with no resolution and the latest strike which was due to Tory/ Labour cuts!![/p][/quote]Amazing how my comment is immediately removed? Argus please do let me know how that could be deemed at all offensive???? Let me ask you again 'Bluenose', is Brighton council capable of accepting responsibility for anything rather than constantly blaming past Tory/labour? Lewes Council operate effectively due to having the right people in the right place doing their jobs effectively. If austerity cuts are to blame then Lewes council would be facing the same issues with rubbish as would entire uk as austerity effects all councils. The truth is the green led council is incompetent, and should stand down so someone else can start cleaning up the mess you have made of Brighton and hove. Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 5

2:16pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
spa301 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Martha Gunn wrote:
Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!!
So how does Lewes council manage?
I can't say how Lewes manages but it is self-evident that serious cuts have had to be made to balance the books and the removal of a number of dustcarts in conjunction with revised rounds was deemed necessary - of course the situation has not been helped by the binmens industrial actions one of which was due to the removal of pay differentials that had long lingered under both previous Tory and Labour administrations with no resolution and the latest strike which was due to Tory/ Labour cuts!!
Amazing how my comment is immediately removed? Argus please do let me know how that could be deemed at all offensive???? Let me ask you again 'Bluenose', is Brighton council capable of accepting responsibility for anything rather than constantly blaming past Tory/labour? Lewes Council operate effectively due to having the right people in the right place doing their jobs effectively. If austerity cuts are to blame then Lewes council would be facing the same issues with rubbish as would entire uk as austerity effects all councils. The truth is the green led council is incompetent, and should stand down so someone else can start cleaning up the mess you have made of Brighton and hove.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015![/p][/quote]As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]So how does Lewes council manage?[/p][/quote]I can't say how Lewes manages but it is self-evident that serious cuts have had to be made to balance the books and the removal of a number of dustcarts in conjunction with revised rounds was deemed necessary - of course the situation has not been helped by the binmens industrial actions one of which was due to the removal of pay differentials that had long lingered under both previous Tory and Labour administrations with no resolution and the latest strike which was due to Tory/ Labour cuts!![/p][/quote]Amazing how my comment is immediately removed? Argus please do let me know how that could be deemed at all offensive???? Let me ask you again 'Bluenose', is Brighton council capable of accepting responsibility for anything rather than constantly blaming past Tory/labour? Lewes Council operate effectively due to having the right people in the right place doing their jobs effectively. If austerity cuts are to blame then Lewes council would be facing the same issues with rubbish as would entire uk as austerity effects all councils. The truth is the green led council is incompetent, and should stand down so someone else can start cleaning up the mess you have made of Brighton and hove. Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 3

2:34pm Thu 17 Jul 14

spa301 says...

Mr Brightside1 - I think you should comment more often.
As for the Argus, they share the same competence levels as the Greens.
Mr Brightside1 - I think you should comment more often. As for the Argus, they share the same competence levels as the Greens. spa301
  • Score: 3

2:36pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Martha Gunn says...

For a Bluenose (12.33pm) you do speak an awful lot of Greenspeak bilge.

Vehicles were not taken off the road 'due to government funding cuts' they were removed as a consequence of a conscious and deliberate decision by the Green Party council.

Westminster does not run our refuse and recycling 'service' (sic).
Rather it is being run into the ground by a Green (yes a supposedly environmentally conscious Green council) - scarcely believable!

Bluenose you will not befuddle us.
We will no longer be fobbed off with Greenspeak gobbledegook and Greenthink lies.
For a Bluenose (12.33pm) you do speak an awful lot of Greenspeak bilge. Vehicles were not taken off the road 'due to government funding cuts' they were removed as a consequence of a conscious and deliberate decision by the Green Party council. Westminster does not run our refuse and recycling 'service' (sic). Rather it is being run into the ground by a Green (yes a supposedly environmentally conscious Green council) - scarcely believable! Bluenose you will not befuddle us. We will no longer be fobbed off with Greenspeak gobbledegook and Greenthink lies. Martha Gunn
  • Score: 15

2:57pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Craig_Futurists says...

The way we handle such an important utility as waste and recycling is outdated and as evidence suggests the system no longer works.
Total modernisation to an efficient automated collection and disposal system is the only way we can have a cleaner city that will equally benefit every resident from the city centres to the suburbs.
The Brighton and Hove Futurists are proposing the introduction of vacuum waste disposal systems to be phased in around the city replacing the need for so many high polluting garbage truck collections.
The way we handle such an important utility as waste and recycling is outdated and as evidence suggests the system no longer works. Total modernisation to an efficient automated collection and disposal system is the only way we can have a cleaner city that will equally benefit every resident from the city centres to the suburbs. The Brighton and Hove Futurists are proposing the introduction of vacuum waste disposal systems to be phased in around the city replacing the need for so many high polluting garbage truck collections. Craig_Futurists
  • Score: -2

3:21pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Tom V says...

theargusissoinformat
ive
wrote:
Tom V wrote:
This is normal in many areas and it's up to the residents to report missed collections whenever they happen, either by phone or online. Those dealing with the calls even recognised my voice thanks to (polite) weekly calls for missed rubbish and fortnightly for missed recycling. If I didn't ring, they'd reprimand me as they can't take action unless they're aware of problems. It's still hit and miss but regular reporting – after 18 months – finally made a difference.
You really shouldn't have to do this. This is an issue in itself, because you must have better things to do with your time.
It takes a couple of minutes to report it on the phone or a minute online - worth doing to avoid rats and maggots. I would go without a bin collection for over a month if I didn't bother reporting the missed collections.
[quote][p][bold]theargusissoinformat ive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom V[/bold] wrote: This is normal in many areas and it's up to the residents to report missed collections whenever they happen, either by phone or online. Those dealing with the calls even recognised my voice thanks to (polite) weekly calls for missed rubbish and fortnightly for missed recycling. If I didn't ring, they'd reprimand me as they can't take action unless they're aware of problems. It's still hit and miss but regular reporting – after 18 months – finally made a difference.[/p][/quote]You really shouldn't have to do this. This is an issue in itself, because you must have better things to do with your time.[/p][/quote]It takes a couple of minutes to report it on the phone or a minute online - worth doing to avoid rats and maggots. I would go without a bin collection for over a month if I didn't bother reporting the missed collections. Tom V
  • Score: -7

3:24pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mrs Newcastle says...

Its Thursday 3.25pm, no rubbish collection for 2 weeks and no rubbish collection today as yet and the build up of the rubbish in the street is very smelly indeed.
Its Thursday 3.25pm, no rubbish collection for 2 weeks and no rubbish collection today as yet and the build up of the rubbish in the street is very smelly indeed. Mrs Newcastle
  • Score: 5

4:06pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Hoarder12345444 says...

spa301 wrote:
Fortunately moved out of Brighton's clutches and into Lewes's in Jan and can only say their services are superb. Even bank holidays don't alter their schedule as Mondays are picked up on the Tuesday.
Yep, the services in Burgess Hill are also most excellent. Never missed, always on time and having lived there for 7 years it's just great. I never have to complain about my collections ever. It's always at the same time every week too. So very consistent and happy to pay my council tax.

I lived in Brighton for 24 years and never had an issue.

This Green council is awful and at this rate I don't want to move back to Brighton!
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Fortunately moved out of Brighton's clutches and into Lewes's in Jan and can only say their services are superb. Even bank holidays don't alter their schedule as Mondays are picked up on the Tuesday.[/p][/quote]Yep, the services in Burgess Hill are also most excellent. Never missed, always on time and having lived there for 7 years it's just great. I never have to complain about my collections ever. It's always at the same time every week too. So very consistent and happy to pay my council tax. I lived in Brighton for 24 years and never had an issue. This Green council is awful and at this rate I don't want to move back to Brighton! Hoarder12345444
  • Score: 5

4:18pm Thu 17 Jul 14

NickBrt says...

Our MP forgets key chunks of her constituents why no headlines about that?
Our MP forgets key chunks of her constituents why no headlines about that? NickBrt
  • Score: 0

5:11pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Hove Actually says...

We are blessed as we live in a street with weekly collections and very near one of the sad ones with the black skips in.
I find all uncollected rubbish, garden waste, plastic, glass, paper and trade waste fits very easily into them
Sorted
We are blessed as we live in a street with weekly collections and very near one of the sad ones with the black skips in. I find all uncollected rubbish, garden waste, plastic, glass, paper and trade waste fits very easily into them Sorted Hove Actually
  • Score: 0

5:38pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Friends of GreenBox says...

There is a way to have a free weekly collection. Magpie offer our streets free sacks if enough , like 1 house in 10, has a Greenbox.
There is a way to have a free weekly collection. Magpie offer our streets free sacks if enough , like 1 house in 10, has a Greenbox. Friends of GreenBox
  • Score: -2

5:56pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Cityclean is an in house service with a strong union lead and it's about time they took the lead and told us how they can improve the service and if they can't it needs to be out out to tender.
The city must be one of the filthiest in the UK but residents also have to take some responsibility because some live like pigs and dump plastic bags of rubbish weekly onto streets and when it gets ripped open they just walk over the mess without cleaning it up.
Cityclean is an in house service with a strong union lead and it's about time they took the lead and told us how they can improve the service and if they can't it needs to be out out to tender. The city must be one of the filthiest in the UK but residents also have to take some responsibility because some live like pigs and dump plastic bags of rubbish weekly onto streets and when it gets ripped open they just walk over the mess without cleaning it up. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -2

7:02pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Martha Gunn says...

Things appear to have got even worse today.

It seems there has been no emptying of communal refuse bins over whole swathes of the city.

This is becoming a crisis.
The bins are beginning to stink.

Why is there no response or sense of urgency from the Council?
They offer Just the routine platitudes masquerading as explanations.
Things appear to have got even worse today. It seems there has been no emptying of communal refuse bins over whole swathes of the city. This is becoming a crisis. The bins are beginning to stink. Why is there no response or sense of urgency from the Council? They offer Just the routine platitudes masquerading as explanations. Martha Gunn
  • Score: 8

7:17am Fri 18 Jul 14

Sussex jim says...

spa301 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Martha Gunn wrote:
Same old story.

This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration.

And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small.

And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected.

What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015!
As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!!
So how does Lewes council manage?
Lewes does not have an idealistic politically blinkered council leadership like Brighton. But why should we be relying on government subsidies to run our local public services? I always understood that the rates/council tax were levied for this purpose.
The obvious answer,of course, is to stop sqandering the council tax receipts on fool projects like cycle lanes,etc. The public could also help, by not creating so much rubbish in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Same old story. This 'service' provided by the Green council has completely broken down and it is hard to see how it can ever be restored under this incompetent administration. And the new communal recycling bins are an object of ridicule. Far too few of them and they are far too small. And so the cycle of decline will continue. Less will be recycled - more will go in the general bins - more will overflow - less will be collected. What is needed is a new political administration and new management at Cityclean. Roll on 2015![/p][/quote]As ever you no doubt deliberately miss the point that a number of vehicles (five I believe) have been taken off the road due to govenment funding cuts and this combined with the problem of an aging dustcart fleet resulting in numerous breakdowns has contributed to many of these problems - yet you want more (and increased) Tory/ Labour austerity come next May!! You couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]So how does Lewes council manage?[/p][/quote]Lewes does not have an idealistic politically blinkered council leadership like Brighton. But why should we be relying on government subsidies to run our local public services? I always understood that the rates/council tax were levied for this purpose. The obvious answer,of course, is to stop sqandering the council tax receipts on fool projects like cycle lanes,etc. The public could also help, by not creating so much rubbish in the first place. Sussex jim
  • Score: 4

9:21am Fri 18 Jul 14

Bill in Hanover says...

Just trying to earn a crust wrote:
More proof, if any was needed, that Brighton and Hove have a council that is unable to do the job required of them
I think you are being harsh on our beloved Green party led Council, they do a wonderful job, after just a few complaints about not having decent cycle paths they spent millions installing wide cycle paths where cyclists are given priority over other road users, and no doubt the 20 odd cyclists who daily use the Old Shoreham Road (according to an official survey) are very grateful. The Council also earn huge amounts of money by increasing parking charges and charging residents to park near their own homes and if they use the money to pay out hundreds of thousands of pounds (£200,000 over budget so far) to make our City's urban areas welcoming to the travelling community and to pay 10 people to sit on a consultative body so they can introduse illegal 'shooting galleries' for our resident druggies it should be applauded.
[quote][p][bold]Just trying to earn a crust[/bold] wrote: More proof, if any was needed, that Brighton and Hove have a council that is unable to do the job required of them[/p][/quote]I think you are being harsh on our beloved Green party led Council, they do a wonderful job, after just a few complaints about not having decent cycle paths they spent millions installing wide cycle paths where cyclists are given priority over other road users, and no doubt the 20 odd cyclists who daily use the Old Shoreham Road (according to an official survey) are very grateful. The Council also earn huge amounts of money by increasing parking charges and charging residents to park near their own homes and if they use the money to pay out hundreds of thousands of pounds (£200,000 over budget so far) to make our City's urban areas welcoming to the travelling community and to pay 10 people to sit on a consultative body so they can introduse illegal 'shooting galleries' for our resident druggies it should be applauded. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 0

10:34pm Fri 18 Jul 14

The Real Curious George says...

I've just left the filthy **** city that was my beloved Brighton for a city the same size in the US. We don't have a fraction of the petty problems B&H have, especially the collection of rubbish. That, of course is done weekly and without politics or social trauma.
The present administration should be ashamed of themselves. I too have seen how this present administration left our city looking like a Mumbai slum last summer because they couldn't get their refuse act together and seems you are having it stuck up you all again.
Appalling. I'm glad I left the city to it's festering and fly-blown ordure.
I've just left the filthy **** city that was my beloved Brighton for a city the same size in the US. We don't have a fraction of the petty problems B&H have, especially the collection of rubbish. That, of course is done weekly and without politics or social trauma. The present administration should be ashamed of themselves. I too have seen how this present administration left our city looking like a Mumbai slum last summer because they couldn't get their refuse act together and seems you are having it stuck up you all again. Appalling. I'm glad I left the city to it's festering and fly-blown ordure. The Real Curious George
  • Score: 0
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