Preston Park toilets are to be refurbished following petition

Café worker Mary Lemon with the petition and, inset, a sign saying the toilets belong to the council, not the café

Café worker Mary Lemon with the petition and, inset, a sign saying the toilets belong to the council, not the café

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An ‘atrocious’ set of park toilets in Brighton are set to be refurbished thanks to a petition signed by more than 1,000 people.

Francis Incorvaja, operator of Rotunda Café, started a petition five weeks ago to refurbish the public toilets at Preston Park.

Mr Incorvaja claims he had complained to the council about the condition of the toilets near Preston Park for more than ten years without response.

He said: “For over a decade, me, my customers and visitors to the park have complained about the terrible condition of the public toilets.

“It reflects badly on my business. I’ve spent a lot of money on the inside of the café but the outside looks atrocious because the toilets reflect on my café.”

Mr Incorvaja also said that the upkeep of the toilets is very poor and the inside of the cubicles are visible to people outside the toilets.

“I’ve been here for 13 years and there’s never been any money spent on them. For a park this size, it’s embarrassing.”

Preston Park Ward candidates from the Conservative Party have joined Mr Incorvaja’s cause, stating that parents would rather take their children home than use the toilets and that mothers are refusing to change babies there for fear of infection and disease.

Lee Wares, Preston Park Conservative candidate, presented the petition at last Thursday’s full council meeting, which convinced all attending councillors that the toilets needed to be refurbished.

He said: “The bottom line is: this is not a political issue, it involves local residents and businesses.

“I’ve seen the toilets myself and my opinion is the same as the residents. It is in a state of disrepair.

“I appreciate the unanimous support of councillors who recognised that this type of regeneration is not only vital for the city but essential for the thousands of visitors to the park.

A city council spokesperson said that a report with costed options and a timetable for the refurbishment of Preston Park toilets would be put to the Environment, Transport and Sustainability Committee on October 7.

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7:56am Wed 23 Jul 14

chrismilo says...

Another way for the council to 1st waste Money then rip the public off charging 50p to use them.
Whoever takes over from the Greens the kitty will be empty !
Another way for the council to 1st waste Money then rip the public off charging 50p to use them. Whoever takes over from the Greens the kitty will be empty ! chrismilo
  • Score: 1

8:03am Wed 23 Jul 14

rogerthefish says...

I wonder if the seafront collapse will take 10 years to repair...this council is just useless.
I wonder if the seafront collapse will take 10 years to repair...this council is just useless. rogerthefish
  • Score: 24

8:21am Wed 23 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made. Quiterie
  • Score: 9

8:47am Wed 23 Jul 14

chrismilo says...

Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled. chrismilo
  • Score: 6

9:02am Wed 23 Jul 14

runnergirl says...

chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Actually I doubt the correspondent is breaking the law - how does one 'prove' one is or is not disabled (you aren't required to wear a badge, such as you'd display on your car)?

By the way - and don't hate me for this - it's 'your're', not 'your', in this context. Grammar correction.
[quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Actually I doubt the correspondent is breaking the law - how does one 'prove' one is or is not disabled (you aren't required to wear a badge, such as you'd display on your car)? By the way - and don't hate me for this - it's 'your're', not 'your', in this context. Grammar correction. runnergirl
  • Score: 17

9:19am Wed 23 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Incorrect. It's not against the law for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet. It should however be against the law to not know the difference between "your" and "you're".
[quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Incorrect. It's not against the law for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet. It should however be against the law to not know the difference between "your" and "you're". Quiterie
  • Score: 21

9:22am Wed 23 Jul 14

Max Ripple says...

If the current Green council are still in charge in ten years time I can guarantee that we will have no seafront or promenade as it will have fallen into the sea at the expense of more of their vanity projects. Did you know that they have £8 million set aside for their new fancy Valley Gardens regeneration road/cycle lane project (which is just a nice but non-essential gimmick) but they refuse to re-prioritise that money to be used on starting to repair and rebuild the seafront which is collapsing before our very eyes?

Attractive pleasant toilets are nowhere near the top of their agenda. They would rather all residents use composting toilets or some such other really 'Green' alternative.
If the current Green council are still in charge in ten years time I can guarantee that we will have no seafront or promenade as it will have fallen into the sea at the expense of more of their vanity projects. Did you know that they have £8 million set aside for their new fancy Valley Gardens regeneration road/cycle lane project (which is just a nice but non-essential gimmick) but they refuse to re-prioritise that money to be used on starting to repair and rebuild the seafront which is collapsing before our very eyes? Attractive pleasant toilets are nowhere near the top of their agenda. They would rather all residents use composting toilets or some such other really 'Green' alternative. Max Ripple
  • Score: 24

9:37am Wed 23 Jul 14

Pitviper says...

Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
But you are not disabled!!!
These keys are meant for disabled people not just so you can have a more respectable toilet!
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]But you are not disabled!!! These keys are meant for disabled people not just so you can have a more respectable toilet! Pitviper
  • Score: -1

9:38am Wed 23 Jul 14

Pitviper says...

Quiterie wrote:
chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Incorrect. It's not against the law for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet. It should however be against the law to not know the difference between "your" and "you're".
No you're right it's not but it is morally wrong1
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Incorrect. It's not against the law for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet. It should however be against the law to not know the difference between "your" and "you're".[/p][/quote]No you're right it's not but it is morally wrong1 Pitviper
  • Score: -3

9:59am Wed 23 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

chrismilo wrote:
Another way for the council to 1st waste Money then rip the public off charging 50p to use them. Whoever takes over from the Greens the kitty will be empty !
The 'Kitty' is nearly gone in both senses.
[quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: Another way for the council to 1st waste Money then rip the public off charging 50p to use them. Whoever takes over from the Greens the kitty will be empty ![/p][/quote]The 'Kitty' is nearly gone in both senses. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 10

10:29am Wed 23 Jul 14

ICantThinkOfAName says...

Am I mistaken in thinking that restaurants and cafes are required to have toilet facilities?
Am I mistaken in thinking that restaurants and cafes are required to have toilet facilities? ICantThinkOfAName
  • Score: 14

10:32am Wed 23 Jul 14

ThinkBrighton says...

chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Very very petty, you can't expect a child to suffer what adults have to
because of the councils shortfalls
[quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Very very petty, you can't expect a child to suffer what adults have to because of the councils shortfalls ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 7

10:44am Wed 23 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

It's taken him 13 years to think about having the toilets looked at ???
It's taken him 13 years to think about having the toilets looked at ??? stevo!!
  • Score: -6

10:50am Wed 23 Jul 14

runnergirl says...

ICantThinkOfAName wrote:
Am I mistaken in thinking that restaurants and cafes are required to have toilet facilities?
That is a good point and one that occurred to me, because my first thought was, if it's so important to the restaurant why don't they provide their own loos, in accordance with required legislation? But there must be some exception to the law if they are sited in a public park - I haven't got time to check out the regulations on this. Maybe someone else could advise?
[quote][p][bold]ICantThinkOfAName[/bold] wrote: Am I mistaken in thinking that restaurants and cafes are required to have toilet facilities?[/p][/quote]That is a good point and one that occurred to me, because my first thought was, if it's so important to the restaurant why don't they provide their own loos, in accordance with required legislation? But there must be some exception to the law if they are sited in a public park - I haven't got time to check out the regulations on this. Maybe someone else could advise? runnergirl
  • Score: 4

11:16am Wed 23 Jul 14

clarkebrighton says...

I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in
mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are
about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users
injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a
legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut
or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty
of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we .
Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.
I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we . Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes. clarkebrighton
  • Score: 10

11:34am Wed 23 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Pitviper wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Incorrect. It's not against the law for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet. It should however be against the law to not know the difference between "your" and "you're".
No you're right it's not but it is morally wrong1
I knew I'd ruffle a few feather with this! Do you think it's morally correct then to risk exposing my 5 year old daughter to walking in on two (or more) men having sex in the mens toilet? (which I'm sure we all know goes on in some Brighton toilets).
[quote][p][bold]Pitviper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Incorrect. It's not against the law for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet. It should however be against the law to not know the difference between "your" and "you're".[/p][/quote]No you're right it's not but it is morally wrong1[/p][/quote]I knew I'd ruffle a few feather with this! Do you think it's morally correct then to risk exposing my 5 year old daughter to walking in on two (or more) men having sex in the mens toilet? (which I'm sure we all know goes on in some Brighton toilets). Quiterie
  • Score: 3

11:39am Wed 23 Jul 14

tweety72 says...

council owned toilets are dire,how the ones in hangleton road got loo of the year beggers belief.
for months the ceiling was covered in someones blood spray (painted over for now).
bring back attendents that used to sit in a little cupboard glaring at you for daring to pollute there clean toilet haha.
council owned toilets are dire,how the ones in hangleton road got loo of the year beggers belief. for months the ceiling was covered in someones blood spray (painted over for now). bring back attendents that used to sit in a little cupboard glaring at you for daring to pollute there clean toilet haha. tweety72
  • Score: 8

12:05pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Nosfaratu says...

chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Limp a bit !
[quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Limp a bit ! Nosfaratu
  • Score: 3

12:18pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Nosfaratu says...

Unfortunately this country, with the exception of London City is rapidly becoming a 3rd World one.

Social facilities that should be taken for granted just don't exist anymore. Over the last 30 years I have seen the beginnings of total social breakdown.
What we need is a Govt that will lead us in the re-building of this once Icon of social Idealism.
Unfortunately this country, with the exception of London City is rapidly becoming a 3rd World one. Social facilities that should be taken for granted just don't exist anymore. Over the last 30 years I have seen the beginnings of total social breakdown. What we need is a Govt that will lead us in the re-building of this once Icon of social Idealism. Nosfaratu
  • Score: 6

1:21pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Bob George says...

Any excuse to bash the council! What part of "complaining for over 10 yrs" did you lot not understand?
Any excuse to bash the council! What part of "complaining for over 10 yrs" did you lot not understand? Bob George
  • Score: -1

1:58pm Wed 23 Jul 14

qm says...

Nosfaratu wrote:
chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Limp a bit !
Note to self: eBay - 1 radar key, 1 walking stick ;)
[quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Limp a bit ![/p][/quote]Note to self: eBay - 1 radar key, 1 walking stick ;) qm
  • Score: 6

2:33pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Hoarder12345444 says...

Pitviper wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
But you are not disabled!!!
These keys are meant for disabled people not just so you can have a more respectable toilet!
I agree, quite right there. It's like those ignorant mugs that use disabled bays in supermarkets. They really annoy me a lot. It's just pure ignorance, nothing more.

As for the cafe, I never go there, it's massively over priced and the owner ran that petition to have paid for parking in the park, so I never go there. The service in there is usually abysmal anyway. It's a nice location yes, but everything is very overpriced. The Cafe in the centre of the park is better, the woman there is very friendly.
[quote][p][bold]Pitviper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]But you are not disabled!!! These keys are meant for disabled people not just so you can have a more respectable toilet![/p][/quote]I agree, quite right there. It's like those ignorant mugs that use disabled bays in supermarkets. They really annoy me a lot. It's just pure ignorance, nothing more. As for the cafe, I never go there, it's massively over priced and the owner ran that petition to have paid for parking in the park, so I never go there. The service in there is usually abysmal anyway. It's a nice location yes, but everything is very overpriced. The Cafe in the centre of the park is better, the woman there is very friendly. Hoarder12345444
  • Score: 5

2:35pm Wed 23 Jul 14

SexualHarassmentPanda says...

I can't see any reason why these toilets can't be sorted out.

That cafe right in the centre of Preston Park had some fairly passable toilets last time I was there recently ('passable' in as much as they didn't stink, the cubicles had doors and there was no giant puddle of stale wee to wade through). I presume they're council run as well.
I can't see any reason why these toilets can't be sorted out. That cafe right in the centre of Preston Park had some fairly passable toilets last time I was there recently ('passable' in as much as they didn't stink, the cubicles had doors and there was no giant puddle of stale wee to wade through). I presume they're council run as well. SexualHarassmentPanda
  • Score: 5

2:38pm Wed 23 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

clarkebrighton wrote:
I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in
mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are
about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users
injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a
legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut
or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty
of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we .
Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.
Public toilets were being closed down before the Greens got into power you knob-head - but as ever facts don't sit well with your brain-dead posts!!
[quote][p][bold]clarkebrighton[/bold] wrote: I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we . Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.[/p][/quote]Public toilets were being closed down before the Greens got into power you knob-head - but as ever facts don't sit well with your brain-dead posts!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -5

3:11pm Wed 23 Jul 14

clarkebrighton says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
clarkebrighton wrote:
I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in
mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are
about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users
injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a
legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut
or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty
of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we .
Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.
Public toilets were being closed down before the Greens got into power you knob-head - but as ever facts don't sit well with your brain-dead posts!!
Well brighton bluenose after reading your remarks and your Language
if anybody is a "Knob-head with Brain Dead Post" its you.

Seems I touched a Nerve mate, No doubt your one of the Scumbags who use Public Toilets to Inject your next Fix.

Those of us who Actually Pay Council Tax know just how much has
been wasted by the Green Party since they got in, and also know
they will be long gone come Next May thank God.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clarkebrighton[/bold] wrote: I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we . Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.[/p][/quote]Public toilets were being closed down before the Greens got into power you knob-head - but as ever facts don't sit well with your brain-dead posts!![/p][/quote]Well brighton bluenose after reading your remarks and your Language if anybody is a "Knob-head with Brain Dead Post" its you. Seems I touched a Nerve mate, No doubt your one of the Scumbags who use Public Toilets to Inject your next Fix. Those of us who Actually Pay Council Tax know just how much has been wasted by the Green Party since they got in, and also know they will be long gone come Next May thank God. clarkebrighton
  • Score: 6

3:17pm Wed 23 Jul 14

sussexram40 says...

Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
That's wrong and immoral. It equates to non-disabled people parking in disabled person car spaces so they don't have to walk so far - with the result a genuinely disabled person may not be able to park.

I think using a card that is issued and intended for use by a disabled or sick person, when you aren't, is pretty low.

Some say what goes around comes around.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]That's wrong and immoral. It equates to non-disabled people parking in disabled person car spaces so they don't have to walk so far - with the result a genuinely disabled person may not be able to park. I think using a card that is issued and intended for use by a disabled or sick person, when you aren't, is pretty low. Some say what goes around comes around. sussexram40
  • Score: 2

3:17pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
clarkebrighton wrote:
I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in
mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are
about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users
injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a
legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut
or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty
of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we .
Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.
Public toilets were being closed down before the Greens got into power you knob-head - but as ever facts don't sit well with your brain-dead posts!!
You portray the green party in an impeccable image, well done you.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clarkebrighton[/bold] wrote: I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we . Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.[/p][/quote]Public toilets were being closed down before the Greens got into power you knob-head - but as ever facts don't sit well with your brain-dead posts!![/p][/quote]You portray the green party in an impeccable image, well done you. Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 2

3:47pm Wed 23 Jul 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

chrismilo wrote:
Another way for the council to 1st waste Money then rip the public off charging 50p to use them.
Whoever takes over from the Greens the kitty will be empty !
How long have the Greens been in power? I think you'll find this article states these toilets have been in disrepair for over 10 years - so shut up. It was the previous councils fault too.

The continuous complaining over the Greens gets really boring. I'm not fan of them either.
[quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: Another way for the council to 1st waste Money then rip the public off charging 50p to use them. Whoever takes over from the Greens the kitty will be empty ![/p][/quote]How long have the Greens been in power? I think you'll find this article states these toilets have been in disrepair for over 10 years - so shut up. It was the previous councils fault too. The continuous complaining over the Greens gets really boring. I'm not fan of them either. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: -1

4:11pm Wed 23 Jul 14

clarkebrighton says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
clarkebrighton wrote:
I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in
mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are
about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users
injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a
legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut
or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty
of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we .
Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.
Public toilets were being closed down before the Greens got into power you knob-head - but as ever facts don't sit well with your brain-dead posts!!
What's the difference between brighton bluenose and the Sacked Councillor Ben Duncan NOTHING !!
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clarkebrighton[/bold] wrote: I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we . Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.[/p][/quote]Public toilets were being closed down before the Greens got into power you knob-head - but as ever facts don't sit well with your brain-dead posts!![/p][/quote]What's the difference between brighton bluenose and the Sacked Councillor Ben Duncan NOTHING !! clarkebrighton
  • Score: 4

4:56pm Wed 23 Jul 14

chrismilo says...

ThinkBrighton wrote:
chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Very very petty, you can't expect a child to suffer what adults have to
because of the councils shortfalls
so sh-tty nappies in a disbled toilet where no facilities to dispose of them is fine ???????? MORON
[quote][p][bold]ThinkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Very very petty, you can't expect a child to suffer what adults have to because of the councils shortfalls[/p][/quote]so sh-tty nappies in a disbled toilet where no facilities to dispose of them is fine ???????? MORON chrismilo
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Wed 23 Jul 14

chrismilo says...

Quiterie wrote:
Pitviper wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Incorrect. It's not against the law for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet. It should however be against the law to not know the difference between "your" and "you're".
No you're right it's not but it is morally wrong1
I knew I'd ruffle a few feather with this! Do you think it's morally correct then to risk exposing my 5 year old daughter to walking in on two (or more) men having sex in the mens toilet? (which I'm sure we all know goes on in some Brighton toilets).
Take them in the ladies us Kids had to go with mum in ladies till we were 8 or 9 get into the real world
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pitviper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Incorrect. It's not against the law for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet. It should however be against the law to not know the difference between "your" and "you're".[/p][/quote]No you're right it's not but it is morally wrong1[/p][/quote]I knew I'd ruffle a few feather with this! Do you think it's morally correct then to risk exposing my 5 year old daughter to walking in on two (or more) men having sex in the mens toilet? (which I'm sure we all know goes on in some Brighton toilets).[/p][/quote]Take them in the ladies us Kids had to go with mum in ladies till we were 8 or 9 get into the real world chrismilo
  • Score: 1

7:01pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Bill in Hanover says...

chrismilo wrote:
Another way for the council to 1st waste Money then rip the public off charging 50p to use them.
Whoever takes over from the Greens the kitty will be empty !
I understand that Councils are not allowed to use automatic turnstiles that charge money on public toilets
[quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: Another way for the council to 1st waste Money then rip the public off charging 50p to use them. Whoever takes over from the Greens the kitty will be empty ![/p][/quote]I understand that Councils are not allowed to use automatic turnstiles that charge money on public toilets Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 1

7:40pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
That's wrong and immoral. It equates to non-disabled people parking in disabled person car spaces so they don't have to walk so far - with the result a genuinely disabled person may not be able to park.

I think using a card that is issued and intended for use by a disabled or sick person, when you aren't, is pretty low.

Some say what goes around comes around.
Not low or immoral at all. A sensible and practical solution to a very real problem. Some of the toilets in Brighton and particularly in London are grotesque and there's no way I would want to take my young children into them.

And it's not like parking in a disabled space at all. If you leave your car in a disabled space you have no way of knowing if you're depriving a disabled person of a space. Using a disabled toilet is completely different and not once in the 13 years I have used disabled toilets have I deprived a disabled person of using it. Many disabled toilets double up as baby change toilets anyway. My conscience is completely clear.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]That's wrong and immoral. It equates to non-disabled people parking in disabled person car spaces so they don't have to walk so far - with the result a genuinely disabled person may not be able to park. I think using a card that is issued and intended for use by a disabled or sick person, when you aren't, is pretty low. Some say what goes around comes around.[/p][/quote]Not low or immoral at all. A sensible and practical solution to a very real problem. Some of the toilets in Brighton and particularly in London are grotesque and there's no way I would want to take my young children into them. And it's not like parking in a disabled space at all. If you leave your car in a disabled space you have no way of knowing if you're depriving a disabled person of a space. Using a disabled toilet is completely different and not once in the 13 years I have used disabled toilets have I deprived a disabled person of using it. Many disabled toilets double up as baby change toilets anyway. My conscience is completely clear. Quiterie
  • Score: 5

8:12pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Max Ripple wrote:
If the current Green council are still in charge in ten years time I can guarantee that we will have no seafront or promenade as it will have fallen into the sea at the expense of more of their vanity projects. Did you know that they have £8 million set aside for their new fancy Valley Gardens regeneration road/cycle lane project (which is just a nice but non-essential gimmick) but they refuse to re-prioritise that money to be used on starting to repair and rebuild the seafront which is collapsing before our very eyes?

Attractive pleasant toilets are nowhere near the top of their agenda. They would rather all residents use composting toilets or some such other really 'Green' alternative.
Funny you should mention composting toilets, I had assumed that's what all the disused bowling greens had become already judging by the look of them - yet another example of how a pleasant facility can become an eyesore thanks to our pointless and useless council.
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: If the current Green council are still in charge in ten years time I can guarantee that we will have no seafront or promenade as it will have fallen into the sea at the expense of more of their vanity projects. Did you know that they have £8 million set aside for their new fancy Valley Gardens regeneration road/cycle lane project (which is just a nice but non-essential gimmick) but they refuse to re-prioritise that money to be used on starting to repair and rebuild the seafront which is collapsing before our very eyes? Attractive pleasant toilets are nowhere near the top of their agenda. They would rather all residents use composting toilets or some such other really 'Green' alternative.[/p][/quote]Funny you should mention composting toilets, I had assumed that's what all the disused bowling greens had become already judging by the look of them - yet another example of how a pleasant facility can become an eyesore thanks to our pointless and useless council. Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 5

8:12pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Max Ripple wrote:
If the current Green council are still in charge in ten years time I can guarantee that we will have no seafront or promenade as it will have fallen into the sea at the expense of more of their vanity projects. Did you know that they have £8 million set aside for their new fancy Valley Gardens regeneration road/cycle lane project (which is just a nice but non-essential gimmick) but they refuse to re-prioritise that money to be used on starting to repair and rebuild the seafront which is collapsing before our very eyes?

Attractive pleasant toilets are nowhere near the top of their agenda. They would rather all residents use composting toilets or some such other really 'Green' alternative.
Funny you should mention composting toilets, I had assumed that's what all the disused bowling greens had become already judging by the look of them - yet another example of how a pleasant facility can become an eyesore thanks to our pointless and useless council.
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: If the current Green council are still in charge in ten years time I can guarantee that we will have no seafront or promenade as it will have fallen into the sea at the expense of more of their vanity projects. Did you know that they have £8 million set aside for their new fancy Valley Gardens regeneration road/cycle lane project (which is just a nice but non-essential gimmick) but they refuse to re-prioritise that money to be used on starting to repair and rebuild the seafront which is collapsing before our very eyes? Attractive pleasant toilets are nowhere near the top of their agenda. They would rather all residents use composting toilets or some such other really 'Green' alternative.[/p][/quote]Funny you should mention composting toilets, I had assumed that's what all the disused bowling greens had become already judging by the look of them - yet another example of how a pleasant facility can become an eyesore thanks to our pointless and useless council. Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 3

9:43pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Bob George wrote:
Any excuse to bash the council! What part of "complaining for over 10 yrs" did you lot not understand?
We understand every word of it. That's why we're 'bashing the council'.... because they've had complaints for 10 years without doing anything! What point are you making exactly?
[quote][p][bold]Bob George[/bold] wrote: Any excuse to bash the council! What part of "complaining for over 10 yrs" did you lot not understand?[/p][/quote]We understand every word of it. That's why we're 'bashing the council'.... because they've had complaints for 10 years without doing anything! What point are you making exactly? Quiterie
  • Score: 2

9:43pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Bob George wrote:
Any excuse to bash the council! What part of "complaining for over 10 yrs" did you lot not understand?
We understand every word of it. That's why we're 'bashing the council'.... because they've had complaints for 10 years without doing anything! What point are you making exactly?
[quote][p][bold]Bob George[/bold] wrote: Any excuse to bash the council! What part of "complaining for over 10 yrs" did you lot not understand?[/p][/quote]We understand every word of it. That's why we're 'bashing the council'.... because they've had complaints for 10 years without doing anything! What point are you making exactly? Quiterie
  • Score: 1

9:43pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Bob George wrote:
Any excuse to bash the council! What part of "complaining for over 10 yrs" did you lot not understand?
We understand every word of it. That's why we're 'bashing the council'.... because they've had complaints for 10 years without doing anything! What point are you making exactly?
[quote][p][bold]Bob George[/bold] wrote: Any excuse to bash the council! What part of "complaining for over 10 yrs" did you lot not understand?[/p][/quote]We understand every word of it. That's why we're 'bashing the council'.... because they've had complaints for 10 years without doing anything! What point are you making exactly? Quiterie
  • Score: 1

9:43pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Bob George wrote:
Any excuse to bash the council! What part of "complaining for over 10 yrs" did you lot not understand?
We understand every word of it. That's why we're 'bashing the council'.... because they've had complaints for 10 years without doing anything! What point are you making exactly?
[quote][p][bold]Bob George[/bold] wrote: Any excuse to bash the council! What part of "complaining for over 10 yrs" did you lot not understand?[/p][/quote]We understand every word of it. That's why we're 'bashing the council'.... because they've had complaints for 10 years without doing anything! What point are you making exactly? Quiterie
  • Score: 1

9:50pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

chrismilo wrote:
ThinkBrighton wrote:
chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Very very petty, you can't expect a child to suffer what adults have to
because of the councils shortfalls
so sh-tty nappies in a disbled toilet where no facilities to dispose of them is fine ???????? MORON
You've obviously never been in a disabled toilet my friend. I can assure you it's far easier to dispose of a dirty nappy than in a regular toilet. As I mention above many of them double up as 'baby change' areas.
[quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThinkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Very very petty, you can't expect a child to suffer what adults have to because of the councils shortfalls[/p][/quote]so sh-tty nappies in a disbled toilet where no facilities to dispose of them is fine ???????? MORON[/p][/quote]You've obviously never been in a disabled toilet my friend. I can assure you it's far easier to dispose of a dirty nappy than in a regular toilet. As I mention above many of them double up as 'baby change' areas. Quiterie
  • Score: 2

10:01pm Wed 23 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
clarkebrighton wrote:
I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in
mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are
about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users
injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a
legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut
or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty
of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we .
Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.
Public toilets were being closed down before the Greens got into power you knob-head - but as ever facts don't sit well with your brain-dead posts!!
You portray the green party in an impeccable image, well done you.
I have nothing to do with the Green Party I'm just tired of d!ckheads who have no sense of the failures of previous administrations in our town/ city - with the principle point that the complainant in this matter first tried to bring it to the council's attention 10 YEARS ago yet the moanerati will try to lay this at the present councils door which, let's not forget because it is an important point, is a minority Green-led administration and where there have been failures the stasis is often due to Labour and Tory intransigence and politicking rather than their concern for the well-being of our city and residents!!
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clarkebrighton[/bold] wrote: I don't think there is enough Public Toilets in Brighton & Hove bearing in mind the amount of Visitors we get. And I must say the one's that are about are Disgusting, Smelly and Normally being used by drug users injecting themselves, I always thought that the local Authority had a legal Duty to Provide Public Toilets, but most of them seem to be shut or have been Sold off. When I visit Spain the Promenades have plenty of Public WC's and they are kept Clean. Why can't we . Oh Silly me ALL the council tax has been Spent on Bike Lanes, and New Potty Road Schemes.[/p][/quote]Public toilets were being closed down before the Greens got into power you knob-head - but as ever facts don't sit well with your brain-dead posts!![/p][/quote]You portray the green party in an impeccable image, well done you.[/p][/quote]I have nothing to do with the Green Party I'm just tired of d!ckheads who have no sense of the failures of previous administrations in our town/ city - with the principle point that the complainant in this matter first tried to bring it to the council's attention 10 YEARS ago yet the moanerati will try to lay this at the present councils door which, let's not forget because it is an important point, is a minority Green-led administration and where there have been failures the stasis is often due to Labour and Tory intransigence and politicking rather than their concern for the well-being of our city and residents!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -3

11:11pm Wed 23 Jul 14

spurious warnings says...

Quiterie wrote:
Pitviper wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
chrismilo wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.
You are breaking the law if your not disabled.
Incorrect. It's not against the law for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet. It should however be against the law to not know the difference between "your" and "you're".
No you're right it's not but it is morally wrong1
I knew I'd ruffle a few feather with this! Do you think it's morally correct then to risk exposing my 5 year old daughter to walking in on two (or more) men having sex in the mens toilet? (which I'm sure we all know goes on in some Brighton toilets).
Stevo!! ? is that you? Got a new name?
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pitviper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chrismilo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: I agree these toilets are disgusting. I bought a radar key on eBay so at least I can take my young children into the disabled toilet (which is at least a bit more respectable). Best purchase I ever made.[/p][/quote]You are breaking the law if your not disabled.[/p][/quote]Incorrect. It's not against the law for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet. It should however be against the law to not know the difference between "your" and "you're".[/p][/quote]No you're right it's not but it is morally wrong1[/p][/quote]I knew I'd ruffle a few feather with this! Do you think it's morally correct then to risk exposing my 5 year old daughter to walking in on two (or more) men having sex in the mens toilet? (which I'm sure we all know goes on in some Brighton toilets).[/p][/quote]Stevo!! ? is that you? Got a new name? spurious warnings
  • Score: 0

11:13am Thu 24 Jul 14

wippasnapper says...

Shame they couldn’t have put back the toilets they removed when they redeveloped the Open Market it’s amassing almost all the public toilets in B&H have ever been shut and bricked up and many will never be reused ever again but we all need to a number one or two but with no where to go
Shame they couldn’t have put back the toilets they removed when they redeveloped the Open Market it’s amassing almost all the public toilets in B&H have ever been shut and bricked up and many will never be reused ever again but we all need to a number one or two but with no where to go wippasnapper
  • Score: 2

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