Hundreds of jobs at risk after supermarket chain pulls out of Newhaven development

Artist's impression of the proposed Asda at Newhaven Eastside

Artist's impression of the proposed Asda at Newhaven Eastside

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HUNDREDS of jobs are at risk as a supermarket chain has pulled out of a development scheme.

Newhaven Developments LLP announced this morning that Asda has withdrawn from the Newhaven Eastside Development which promised to bring a new superstore alongside 190 homes.

The plans had been to build a 40,000 sq ft Asda store in Newhaven which the developer estimated would generate around 350 jobs.

The proposal, in conjunction with Asda and Barrett Homes, would also include a hotel, 14 business units and 280 homes on the unused Eastside site in the town.

In a statement issued previously, a spokesman for Asda said: “Our investment is guaranteed”.

The developer confirmed today they have issued High Court proceedings against the supermarket and promised “we are not going to take this lying down and we are going to fight them”.

The High Court proceedings have not yet been served and the developer has confirmed there are going to be 28 days worth of discussions between Newhaven Developments and Asda before the matter is taken further.

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12:53pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Nikski says...

Hundreds of jobs are not at risk as they were never there in the first place, and would mostly have been part-time and low paid, so come on Argus stop trying to sensationalise!
This was always an iffy plan and I don't think many people in Newhaven really believed Asda would go ahead.....there are already three supermarkets in what is a small town so absolutely no need for another one. I never wanted it and nor did most people in the town either, according to a survey which showed a majority preferred the other plan for Railway Quay.
The sad thing is that there were other better proposed developments which were turned down in favour of this one. But at least we have the go-ahead for the UTC, new transport hub and windfarm which wil be built at Newhaven. Now they just need to actually happen!
Well done those idiot councillors who voted for it; another scheme that fails to materialise in Newhaven.
Hundreds of jobs are not at risk as they were never there in the first place, and would mostly have been part-time and low paid, so come on Argus stop trying to sensationalise! This was always an iffy plan and I don't think many people in Newhaven really believed Asda would go ahead.....there are already three supermarkets in what is a small town so absolutely no need for another one. I never wanted it and nor did most people in the town either, according to a survey which showed a majority preferred the other plan for Railway Quay. The sad thing is that there were other better proposed developments which were turned down in favour of this one. But at least we have the go-ahead for the UTC, new transport hub and windfarm which wil be built at Newhaven. Now they just need to actually happen! Well done those idiot councillors who voted for it; another scheme that fails to materialise in Newhaven. Nikski
  • Score: 49

12:53pm Thu 24 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Why was ASDA's presence so important to the development?
Why was ASDA's presence so important to the development? stevo!!
  • Score: 5

12:56pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Nikski says...

stevo!! wrote:
Why was ASDA's presence so important to the development?
Because they promised to part fund the new port road to the tune of £10 million, even though the port didn't actually want that road......it's all very dubious.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Why was ASDA's presence so important to the development?[/p][/quote]Because they promised to part fund the new port road to the tune of £10 million, even though the port didn't actually want that road......it's all very dubious. Nikski
  • Score: 35

1:15pm Thu 24 Jul 14

rogerthefish says...

Is that west beach open yet...that's the failure in newhaven...absolutel
y disgusting
Is that west beach open yet...that's the failure in newhaven...absolutel y disgusting rogerthefish
  • Score: 20

1:15pm Thu 24 Jul 14

rogerthefish says...

Is that west beach open yet...that's the failure in newhaven...absolutel
y disgusting
Is that west beach open yet...that's the failure in newhaven...absolutel y disgusting rogerthefish
  • Score: 11

1:31pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Newhavenles says...

This town will always be what it ,somewhere we live but go somewhere else if we want to do just about any thing in the way of shopping or entertainment. There is no point trying to build up the ferry terminal as the French company don't want to spend any of their own money and always seem to be on the verge of pulling out. The last bank closes shortly and what ever the council is building in the town also seems to have been put on hold.
This town will always be what it ,somewhere we live but go somewhere else if we want to do just about any thing in the way of shopping or entertainment. There is no point trying to build up the ferry terminal as the French company don't want to spend any of their own money and always seem to be on the verge of pulling out. The last bank closes shortly and what ever the council is building in the town also seems to have been put on hold. Newhavenles
  • Score: 18

2:41pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Cave Johnson says...

Bit o a one-sided story Argus. You haven't even asked Asda for a comment.
Bit o a one-sided story Argus. You haven't even asked Asda for a comment. Cave Johnson
  • Score: 6

3:11pm Thu 24 Jul 14

keeshond8 says...

I don't know how many artists's impressions of schemes on display in Newhaven have remained just that. It was fairly obvious to all but a few stubborn Town & District councillors on the Planning Committee that an alternative proposal , preferred by the vast majority of residents, would have better lead to the swift regeneration of Railway Quay ahead of the UTC harbourside plans for next year.
These new plans are supported by, among others, the French Port Authorities whose offer to open the West Beach for a peppercorn rent was so vociferously opposed by Town councillors - none more so than by the two 'Save Newhaven Beach' campaigners who most strongly backed the ASDA proposal.
Meanwhile, there is a danger now that Newhaven is in the sights of one or two private developers who want to concrete over large parts of the town with large scale housing without contributing anything towards the costs of the infrastructure necessary to support it. Yes, there are good things on the horizon, but we've been here before too many times.
I don't know how many artists's impressions of schemes on display in Newhaven have remained just that. It was fairly obvious to all but a few stubborn Town & District councillors on the Planning Committee that an alternative proposal , preferred by the vast majority of residents, would have better lead to the swift regeneration of Railway Quay ahead of the UTC harbourside plans for next year. These new plans are supported by, among others, the French Port Authorities whose offer to open the West Beach for a peppercorn rent was so vociferously opposed by Town councillors - none more so than by the two 'Save Newhaven Beach' campaigners who most strongly backed the ASDA proposal. Meanwhile, there is a danger now that Newhaven is in the sights of one or two private developers who want to concrete over large parts of the town with large scale housing without contributing anything towards the costs of the infrastructure necessary to support it. Yes, there are good things on the horizon, but we've been here before too many times. keeshond8
  • Score: 9

3:33pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Sir Prised says...

These claims of additional retail jobs, never take account of the businesses which close as a result. There is only a finite amount of money in shopper's pockets !
These claims of additional retail jobs, never take account of the businesses which close as a result. There is only a finite amount of money in shopper's pockets ! Sir Prised
  • Score: 19

3:52pm Thu 24 Jul 14

sussexram40 says...

It was never viable anyway.
Newhaven is a small, run down town. But it has a big Sainsburys, a big Co-Op and a big Lidl. It could never have supported a big Asda as well!
Seaford just along the coast has only 1 proper supermarket - a Morrisons.
Fact is, Newhaven is a dump. It's a dumping ground - look at the new incinerator pumping out smoke.
Take a walk down Newhaven High Street (hidden away by the ring road) and play spot the open shop!
It was never viable anyway. Newhaven is a small, run down town. But it has a big Sainsburys, a big Co-Op and a big Lidl. It could never have supported a big Asda as well! Seaford just along the coast has only 1 proper supermarket - a Morrisons. Fact is, Newhaven is a dump. It's a dumping ground - look at the new incinerator pumping out smoke. Take a walk down Newhaven High Street (hidden away by the ring road) and play spot the open shop! sussexram40
  • Score: 20

4:23pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Nikski says...

Sir Prised wrote:
These claims of additional retail jobs, never take account of the businesses which close as a result. There is only a finite amount of money in shopper's pockets !
You are right - Asda would have sucked the life out of what remains of the town centre and badly affected the independent shops in Seaford too. This proposal was never about regeneration of anything it was out of town and would have created a load more traffic!
[quote][p][bold]Sir Prised[/bold] wrote: These claims of additional retail jobs, never take account of the businesses which close as a result. There is only a finite amount of money in shopper's pockets ![/p][/quote]You are right - Asda would have sucked the life out of what remains of the town centre and badly affected the independent shops in Seaford too. This proposal was never about regeneration of anything it was out of town and would have created a load more traffic! Nikski
  • Score: 16

4:30pm Thu 24 Jul 14

tykemison says...

sussexram40 wrote:
It was never viable anyway.
Newhaven is a small, run down town. But it has a big Sainsburys, a big Co-Op and a big Lidl. It could never have supported a big Asda as well!
Seaford just along the coast has only 1 proper supermarket - a Morrisons.
Fact is, Newhaven is a dump. It's a dumping ground - look at the new incinerator pumping out smoke.
Take a walk down Newhaven High Street (hidden away by the ring road) and play spot the open shop!
Bit disrespectful to the good people of newhaven! Not their fault they have had that incinerator monstrosity placed upon them, I find the locals a great bunch when on the odd occasion I visit.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: It was never viable anyway. Newhaven is a small, run down town. But it has a big Sainsburys, a big Co-Op and a big Lidl. It could never have supported a big Asda as well! Seaford just along the coast has only 1 proper supermarket - a Morrisons. Fact is, Newhaven is a dump. It's a dumping ground - look at the new incinerator pumping out smoke. Take a walk down Newhaven High Street (hidden away by the ring road) and play spot the open shop![/p][/quote]Bit disrespectful to the good people of newhaven! Not their fault they have had that incinerator monstrosity placed upon them, I find the locals a great bunch when on the odd occasion I visit. tykemison
  • Score: 7

4:33pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Nikski says...

Newhavenles wrote:
This town will always be what it ,somewhere we live but go somewhere else if we want to do just about any thing in the way of shopping or entertainment. There is no point trying to build up the ferry terminal as the French company don't want to spend any of their own money and always seem to be on the verge of pulling out. The last bank closes shortly and what ever the council is building in the town also seems to have been put on hold.
The French have subsidised the ferry to the tune of millions over the last few years, it's our side that hasn't spent any money. The other plan for the 'Railway Quarter' development which was rejected in favour of Asda, included a new ferry terminal which would have been a start. Doubt that will happen now...
[quote][p][bold]Newhavenles[/bold] wrote: This town will always be what it ,somewhere we live but go somewhere else if we want to do just about any thing in the way of shopping or entertainment. There is no point trying to build up the ferry terminal as the French company don't want to spend any of their own money and always seem to be on the verge of pulling out. The last bank closes shortly and what ever the council is building in the town also seems to have been put on hold.[/p][/quote]The French have subsidised the ferry to the tune of millions over the last few years, it's our side that hasn't spent any money. The other plan for the 'Railway Quarter' development which was rejected in favour of Asda, included a new ferry terminal which would have been a start. Doubt that will happen now... Nikski
  • Score: 10

5:15pm Thu 24 Jul 14

argchat says...

Nikski wrote:
Newhavenles wrote:
This town will always be what it ,somewhere we live but go somewhere else if we want to do just about any thing in the way of shopping or entertainment. There is no point trying to build up the ferry terminal as the French company don't want to spend any of their own money and always seem to be on the verge of pulling out. The last bank closes shortly and what ever the council is building in the town also seems to have been put on hold.
The French have subsidised the ferry to the tune of millions over the last few years, it's our side that hasn't spent any money. The other plan for the 'Railway Quarter' development which was rejected in favour of Asda, included a new ferry terminal which would have been a start. Doubt that will happen now...
What fool decided to reject the re-generation of the port and the railway station in favour of ASDA. Re-generation of the port, railway station would have been fantastic, and probably led to the creation of a proper marina with shops and cafes which holds more value, and more reasons for the ferry to stay in the long run. I don't blame the French, and I will not blame them if they eventually pull out. Nobody wants another supermarket or houses anway.
[quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newhavenles[/bold] wrote: This town will always be what it ,somewhere we live but go somewhere else if we want to do just about any thing in the way of shopping or entertainment. There is no point trying to build up the ferry terminal as the French company don't want to spend any of their own money and always seem to be on the verge of pulling out. The last bank closes shortly and what ever the council is building in the town also seems to have been put on hold.[/p][/quote]The French have subsidised the ferry to the tune of millions over the last few years, it's our side that hasn't spent any money. The other plan for the 'Railway Quarter' development which was rejected in favour of Asda, included a new ferry terminal which would have been a start. Doubt that will happen now...[/p][/quote]What fool decided to reject the re-generation of the port and the railway station in favour of ASDA. Re-generation of the port, railway station would have been fantastic, and probably led to the creation of a proper marina with shops and cafes which holds more value, and more reasons for the ferry to stay in the long run. I don't blame the French, and I will not blame them if they eventually pull out. Nobody wants another supermarket or houses anway. argchat
  • Score: 14

5:41pm Thu 24 Jul 14

shining star says...

such a shame, I remember Newhaven High Street in the 60's when it was through traffic, it was a bustling place, full of all types of shops and a Saturday was bursting with local people from all around Newhaven catching up with each other and young and old always up and down the busy town centre. I know the traffic flow was getting too much and caused the ring road to be built, but, I think that was the death of the town. Such a shame. I don't live in Newhaven but there are plenty of nice families still living there whose generations go way back. Very few towns left like it now.
such a shame, I remember Newhaven High Street in the 60's when it was through traffic, it was a bustling place, full of all types of shops and a Saturday was bursting with local people from all around Newhaven catching up with each other and young and old always up and down the busy town centre. I know the traffic flow was getting too much and caused the ring road to be built, but, I think that was the death of the town. Such a shame. I don't live in Newhaven but there are plenty of nice families still living there whose generations go way back. Very few towns left like it now. shining star
  • Score: 11

5:52pm Thu 24 Jul 14

websterlufc says...

Well done Newhaven council,not. At the meeting there were 2 possible choices possibly both. Tesco on waterfront and Asda. Those present clearly thought Tesco better bet. Asda said unless they had a decision that night and only them in Newhaven they would pull out. Councillors panicked as they thought what if we end up with nothing. Blow me 2 years later what does Newhaven get, nothing. Brilliant game played by Newhaven councillors. They should be ashamed.
Well done Newhaven council,not. At the meeting there were 2 possible choices possibly both. Tesco on waterfront and Asda. Those present clearly thought Tesco better bet. Asda said unless they had a decision that night and only them in Newhaven they would pull out. Councillors panicked as they thought what if we end up with nothing. Blow me 2 years later what does Newhaven get, nothing. Brilliant game played by Newhaven councillors. They should be ashamed. websterlufc
  • Score: 13

6:19pm Thu 24 Jul 14

argchat says...

websterlufc wrote:
Well done Newhaven council,not. At the meeting there were 2 possible choices possibly both. Tesco on waterfront and Asda. Those present clearly thought Tesco better bet. Asda said unless they had a decision that night and only them in Newhaven they would pull out. Councillors panicked as they thought what if we end up with nothing. Blow me 2 years later what does Newhaven get, nothing. Brilliant game played by Newhaven councillors. They should be ashamed.
I didn't know that Tesco wanted to build. As much as I don't want another supermarket that would have been the far better option. The port is what makes Newhaven and always has.
[quote][p][bold]websterlufc[/bold] wrote: Well done Newhaven council,not. At the meeting there were 2 possible choices possibly both. Tesco on waterfront and Asda. Those present clearly thought Tesco better bet. Asda said unless they had a decision that night and only them in Newhaven they would pull out. Councillors panicked as they thought what if we end up with nothing. Blow me 2 years later what does Newhaven get, nothing. Brilliant game played by Newhaven councillors. They should be ashamed.[/p][/quote]I didn't know that Tesco wanted to build. As much as I don't want another supermarket that would have been the far better option. The port is what makes Newhaven and always has. argchat
  • Score: 4

6:39pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Newhaven is a small town, and being on the coast only has half the economic sphere of influence of an inland town. Even if you add in say half the household of east Peacehaven and part of Seaford, this is tiny consumer area. In no way could could several large supermarkets operate within a few 100 metres of each other. As others have said, these so called new jobs, would eventually have simply replaced those in those older supermarkets that closed as a result of ASDA. Smoke and mirrors.

The jobs need to come in other ways.
Newhaven is a small town, and being on the coast only has half the economic sphere of influence of an inland town. Even if you add in say half the household of east Peacehaven and part of Seaford, this is tiny consumer area. In no way could could several large supermarkets operate within a few 100 metres of each other. As others have said, these so called new jobs, would eventually have simply replaced those in those older supermarkets that closed as a result of ASDA. Smoke and mirrors. The jobs need to come in other ways. Withdean-er
  • Score: 3

6:54pm Thu 24 Jul 14

sussexram40 says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Newhaven is a small town, and being on the coast only has half the economic sphere of influence of an inland town. Even if you add in say half the household of east Peacehaven and part of Seaford, this is tiny consumer area. In no way could could several large supermarkets operate within a few 100 metres of each other. As others have said, these so called new jobs, would eventually have simply replaced those in those older supermarkets that closed as a result of ASDA. Smoke and mirrors.

The jobs need to come in other ways.
Yes, I agree.
Regards
THE RAM
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Newhaven is a small town, and being on the coast only has half the economic sphere of influence of an inland town. Even if you add in say half the household of east Peacehaven and part of Seaford, this is tiny consumer area. In no way could could several large supermarkets operate within a few 100 metres of each other. As others have said, these so called new jobs, would eventually have simply replaced those in those older supermarkets that closed as a result of ASDA. Smoke and mirrors. The jobs need to come in other ways.[/p][/quote]Yes, I agree. Regards THE RAM sussexram40
  • Score: -3

7:12pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Nikski says...

sussexram40 wrote:
It was never viable anyway.
Newhaven is a small, run down town. But it has a big Sainsburys, a big Co-Op and a big Lidl. It could never have supported a big Asda as well!
Seaford just along the coast has only 1 proper supermarket - a Morrisons.
Fact is, Newhaven is a dump. It's a dumping ground - look at the new incinerator pumping out smoke.
Take a walk down Newhaven High Street (hidden away by the ring road) and play spot the open shop!
The usual negative garbage from people who don't really know or live in Newhaven.....it's not a dump.
! It is true it has been neglected and the town centre isn't very inspiring, but there is a sense of community with lot of good people living here who care about the place and are proud to live here. It is very close to the Downs and the East Beach is lovely - much better than Brighton beach! It also has a lot of hidden treasures you wouldn't know about. Unfortunately it does have more than it's share of numpty councillors (Steve Saunders excepted) hence this stupid decision against the wishes of most people here & certainly not in the best interests of the town.
Hopefully with all the promises of big money being invested in Newhaven it can improve in the right ways. Even more housing would be a positive thing as it would bring people into the area with money to spend which could mean more businesses and some new shops and eating places in the town? As I said before these things just need to happen now, but even if it stayed the same many of us would still love it and defend it against undeserved slurs!
As for the incinerator again there was massive opposition to it but it went ahead (surprise, surprise) and now it has been here for a while I think most people have got used to it and don'e even notice it - it certainly doesn't belch out smoke as you suggest; the air quality around here is probably a lot better than in Brighton....which is where most of the rubbish it burns comes from anyway. 'Nuff said.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: It was never viable anyway. Newhaven is a small, run down town. But it has a big Sainsburys, a big Co-Op and a big Lidl. It could never have supported a big Asda as well! Seaford just along the coast has only 1 proper supermarket - a Morrisons. Fact is, Newhaven is a dump. It's a dumping ground - look at the new incinerator pumping out smoke. Take a walk down Newhaven High Street (hidden away by the ring road) and play spot the open shop![/p][/quote]The usual negative garbage from people who don't really know or live in Newhaven.....it's not a dump. ! It is true it has been neglected and the town centre isn't very inspiring, but there is a sense of community with lot of good people living here who care about the place and are proud to live here. It is very close to the Downs and the East Beach is lovely - much better than Brighton beach! It also has a lot of hidden treasures you wouldn't know about. Unfortunately it does have more than it's share of numpty councillors (Steve Saunders excepted) hence this stupid decision against the wishes of most people here & certainly not in the best interests of the town. Hopefully with all the promises of big money being invested in Newhaven it can improve in the right ways. Even more housing would be a positive thing as it would bring people into the area with money to spend which could mean more businesses and some new shops and eating places in the town? As I said before these things just need to happen now, but even if it stayed the same many of us would still love it and defend it against undeserved slurs! As for the incinerator again there was massive opposition to it but it went ahead (surprise, surprise) and now it has been here for a while I think most people have got used to it and don'e even notice it - it certainly doesn't belch out smoke as you suggest; the air quality around here is probably a lot better than in Brighton....which is where most of the rubbish it burns comes from anyway. 'Nuff said. Nikski
  • Score: 11

7:15pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Nikski says...

stevo!! wrote:
Why was ASDA's presence so important to the development?
Why are people scoring stevo down; he only asked a perfectly reasonable question? Never thought I'd defend him, now there's a thing, I must be mellowing haha!
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Why was ASDA's presence so important to the development?[/p][/quote]Why are people scoring stevo down; he only asked a perfectly reasonable question? Never thought I'd defend him, now there's a thing, I must be mellowing haha! Nikski
  • Score: 4

7:16pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Nikski says...

stevo!! wrote:
Why was ASDA's presence so important to the development?
Why are people scoring stevo down; he only asked a perfectly reasonable question? Never thought I'd defend him, now there's a thing, I must be mellowing haha!
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Why was ASDA's presence so important to the development?[/p][/quote]Why are people scoring stevo down; he only asked a perfectly reasonable question? Never thought I'd defend him, now there's a thing, I must be mellowing haha! Nikski
  • Score: 1

7:23pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Robertostarlight says...

In the Lewes District Newhaven has always been the 'poor relation' when it came to the Council ,{ the Lewes District Council}, investing. Lewes and Seaford have always seemingly had the preference. It is no good blaming the Town Council, which is only a jumped up Parish Council, for the lack of investment or even good judgement. 'Small town politics' exist in such little towns where small people have large egos.

Years ago, despite some of the comments, Newhaven was a thriving 'mini-industrial' town with a busy working port, big businesses, (e.g. Parker Pen, Charringtons, Fishers etc). The people of Newhaven were blessed with relatively high paid jobs, (Parkers used to 'bus' people in from Brighton and surrounding areas to work because the wages were better there than where they lived and Newhaven could not supply the labour. I suppose that the powers that be in Lewes thought that it could manage o.k. without there help.

Now it is a bit of a ghost town with the High Street cut of from the town, (hooray for planners!!!),and the supermarkets seemingly among the big employers, (excluding SBFI and Concord)., paying minimum wages, or very near

The redevelopment of the harbour area, Newhaven's reason for being there at all really, is the most ignored and valuble future. It does not take a genius, and I am not one, to see where others have succeeded in making such an available facility a financial and aesthetic benefit to their towns.

By the way Newhaveners are amongst the best in Sussex to live amongst. They do not deserve their town to be allowed to detriorate anymore because of amatuer politicians making crass decisions..
In the Lewes District Newhaven has always been the 'poor relation' when it came to the Council ,{ the Lewes District Council}, investing. Lewes and Seaford have always seemingly had the preference. It is no good blaming the Town Council, which is only a jumped up Parish Council, for the lack of investment or even good judgement. 'Small town politics' exist in such little towns where small people have large egos. Years ago, despite some of the comments, Newhaven was a thriving 'mini-industrial' town with a busy working port, big businesses, (e.g. Parker Pen, Charringtons, Fishers etc). The people of Newhaven were blessed with relatively high paid jobs, (Parkers used to 'bus' people in from Brighton and surrounding areas to work because the wages were better there than where they lived and Newhaven could not supply the labour. I suppose that the powers that be in Lewes thought that it could manage o.k. without there help. Now it is a bit of a ghost town with the High Street cut of from the town, (hooray for planners!!!),and the supermarkets seemingly among the big employers, (excluding SBFI and Concord)., paying minimum wages, or very near The redevelopment of the harbour area, Newhaven's reason for being there at all really, is the most ignored and valuble future. It does not take a genius, and I am not one, to see where others have succeeded in making such an available facility a financial and aesthetic benefit to their towns. By the way Newhaveners are amongst the best in Sussex to live amongst. They do not deserve their town to be allowed to detriorate anymore because of amatuer politicians making crass decisions.. Robertostarlight
  • Score: 8

7:26pm Thu 24 Jul 14

her professional says...

The sad thing is, the basics are there to make Newhaven viable once again. Two train stations, a high frequency bus service to/from Brighton and Eastbourne, and the ferry (just). Support for small businesses in the High Street together with development of the harbourside, coupled with the completion of the Egrets Way cycle route between Newhaven and Lewes along the river, and you have the beginnings of regeneration. Too late to do much about the 259 roaring round the centre, but at least this leaves the High St as a potentially pleasant pedestrian area, maybe something of a North Laine vibe could emerge, after all, not so long ago the North Laine area was a run down slummy and neglected part of Brighton, blighted by loony road proposals and rescued by local initiative.
So let's have some imaginative business proposals, and support for independent entrepreneurs who are prepared to give it a go. Hastings seems to always be on the receiving end of millions of Government/European money, so Come on East Sussex, Lewes and Newhaven councils, start shouting a bit louder.
The sad thing is, the basics are there to make Newhaven viable once again. Two train stations, a high frequency bus service to/from Brighton and Eastbourne, and the ferry (just). Support for small businesses in the High Street together with development of the harbourside, coupled with the completion of the Egrets Way cycle route between Newhaven and Lewes along the river, and you have the beginnings of regeneration. Too late to do much about the 259 roaring round the centre, but at least this leaves the High St as a potentially pleasant pedestrian area, maybe something of a North Laine vibe could emerge, after all, not so long ago the North Laine area was a run down slummy and neglected part of Brighton, blighted by loony road proposals and rescued by local initiative. So let's have some imaginative business proposals, and support for independent entrepreneurs who are prepared to give it a go. Hastings seems to always be on the receiving end of millions of Government/European money, so Come on East Sussex, Lewes and Newhaven councils, start shouting a bit louder. her professional
  • Score: 5

7:30pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Nikski says...

Robertostarlight wrote:
In the Lewes District Newhaven has always been the 'poor relation' when it came to the Council ,{ the Lewes District Council}, investing. Lewes and Seaford have always seemingly had the preference. It is no good blaming the Town Council, which is only a jumped up Parish Council, for the lack of investment or even good judgement. 'Small town politics' exist in such little towns where small people have large egos.

Years ago, despite some of the comments, Newhaven was a thriving 'mini-industrial' town with a busy working port, big businesses, (e.g. Parker Pen, Charringtons, Fishers etc). The people of Newhaven were blessed with relatively high paid jobs, (Parkers used to 'bus' people in from Brighton and surrounding areas to work because the wages were better there than where they lived and Newhaven could not supply the labour. I suppose that the powers that be in Lewes thought that it could manage o.k. without there help.

Now it is a bit of a ghost town with the High Street cut of from the town, (hooray for planners!!!),and the supermarkets seemingly among the big employers, (excluding SBFI and Concord)., paying minimum wages, or very near

The redevelopment of the harbour area, Newhaven's reason for being there at all really, is the most ignored and valuble future. It does not take a genius, and I am not one, to see where others have succeeded in making such an available facility a financial and aesthetic benefit to their towns.

By the way Newhaveners are amongst the best in Sussex to live amongst. They do not deserve their town to be allowed to detriorate anymore because of amatuer politicians making crass decisions..
You are right Roberto it was LDC who approved this plan, with the backing of ESCC - mostly Tories (and guess what Barratts who are/were building the houses are big Tory donors). Nothing fishy about that then.
However, some of the Town councillors were vociferous in their support for the Asda plan; they know who they are! Hope they are feeling pleased with themselves now, won't be getting my vote again.
[quote][p][bold]Robertostarlight[/bold] wrote: In the Lewes District Newhaven has always been the 'poor relation' when it came to the Council ,{ the Lewes District Council}, investing. Lewes and Seaford have always seemingly had the preference. It is no good blaming the Town Council, which is only a jumped up Parish Council, for the lack of investment or even good judgement. 'Small town politics' exist in such little towns where small people have large egos. Years ago, despite some of the comments, Newhaven was a thriving 'mini-industrial' town with a busy working port, big businesses, (e.g. Parker Pen, Charringtons, Fishers etc). The people of Newhaven were blessed with relatively high paid jobs, (Parkers used to 'bus' people in from Brighton and surrounding areas to work because the wages were better there than where they lived and Newhaven could not supply the labour. I suppose that the powers that be in Lewes thought that it could manage o.k. without there help. Now it is a bit of a ghost town with the High Street cut of from the town, (hooray for planners!!!),and the supermarkets seemingly among the big employers, (excluding SBFI and Concord)., paying minimum wages, or very near The redevelopment of the harbour area, Newhaven's reason for being there at all really, is the most ignored and valuble future. It does not take a genius, and I am not one, to see where others have succeeded in making such an available facility a financial and aesthetic benefit to their towns. By the way Newhaveners are amongst the best in Sussex to live amongst. They do not deserve their town to be allowed to detriorate anymore because of amatuer politicians making crass decisions..[/p][/quote]You are right Roberto it was LDC who approved this plan, with the backing of ESCC - mostly Tories (and guess what Barratts who are/were building the houses are big Tory donors). Nothing fishy about that then. However, some of the Town councillors were vociferous in their support for the Asda plan; they know who they are! Hope they are feeling pleased with themselves now, won't be getting my vote again. Nikski
  • Score: 6

8:53pm Thu 24 Jul 14

keeshond8 says...

"You are right Roberto it was LDC who approved this plan, with the backing of ESCC - mostly Tories (and guess what Barratts who are/were building the houses are big Tory donors). Nothing fishy about that then.
However, some of the Town councillors were vociferous in their support for the Asda plan; they know who they are! Hope they are feeling pleased with themselves now, won't be getting my vote again."

Why not name them? They're not the majority, but those councillors you allude to may have been taking fishy things in addition to misleading Newhaven's largely gullible residents for years.
"You are right Roberto it was LDC who approved this plan, with the backing of ESCC - mostly Tories (and guess what Barratts who are/were building the houses are big Tory donors). Nothing fishy about that then. However, some of the Town councillors were vociferous in their support for the Asda plan; they know who they are! Hope they are feeling pleased with themselves now, won't be getting my vote again." Why not name them? They're not the majority, but those councillors you allude to may have been taking fishy things in addition to misleading Newhaven's largely gullible residents for years. keeshond8
  • Score: 6

9:09pm Thu 24 Jul 14

DCCCCCC says...

tykemison wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
It was never viable anyway.
Newhaven is a small, run down town. But it has a big Sainsburys, a big Co-Op and a big Lidl. It could never have supported a big Asda as well!
Seaford just along the coast has only 1 proper supermarket - a Morrisons.
Fact is, Newhaven is a dump. It's a dumping ground - look at the new incinerator pumping out smoke.
Take a walk down Newhaven High Street (hidden away by the ring road) and play spot the open shop!
Bit disrespectful to the good people of newhaven! Not their fault they have had that incinerator monstrosity placed upon them, I find the locals a great bunch when on the odd occasion I visit.
I don't live in Newhaven but visit it frequently and have met some really lovely people there. Newhaven has so much potential. There are some lovely walks, a station, beaches, the river, ferry, leisure centre, supermarkets. I am no expert so cannot suggest what type of investments into the area would work but think it's such a a shame that nothing is/has been done to give this town a boost.
[quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: It was never viable anyway. Newhaven is a small, run down town. But it has a big Sainsburys, a big Co-Op and a big Lidl. It could never have supported a big Asda as well! Seaford just along the coast has only 1 proper supermarket - a Morrisons. Fact is, Newhaven is a dump. It's a dumping ground - look at the new incinerator pumping out smoke. Take a walk down Newhaven High Street (hidden away by the ring road) and play spot the open shop![/p][/quote]Bit disrespectful to the good people of newhaven! Not their fault they have had that incinerator monstrosity placed upon them, I find the locals a great bunch when on the odd occasion I visit.[/p][/quote]I don't live in Newhaven but visit it frequently and have met some really lovely people there. Newhaven has so much potential. There are some lovely walks, a station, beaches, the river, ferry, leisure centre, supermarkets. I am no expert so cannot suggest what type of investments into the area would work but think it's such a a shame that nothing is/has been done to give this town a boost. DCCCCCC
  • Score: 11

9:30am Fri 25 Jul 14

Juleyanne says...

What would go down a storm is an M & S in Newhaven. There is no M & S for miles to serve from East Saltdean, Peacehaven, Newhaven, Seaford, Lewes a huge area of high population. The nearest is Eastbourne or Brighton which is too far for many, particularly the elderly. A decent quality clothing and smalls outlet would fill a big gap of a much needed facility.
What would go down a storm is an M & S in Newhaven. There is no M & S for miles to serve from East Saltdean, Peacehaven, Newhaven, Seaford, Lewes a huge area of high population. The nearest is Eastbourne or Brighton which is too far for many, particularly the elderly. A decent quality clothing and smalls outlet would fill a big gap of a much needed facility. Juleyanne
  • Score: 4

11:30am Fri 25 Jul 14

Fairfax Aches says...

What a shame for all the bulgarian romanians immigrants whose jobs these would have been. Back to the jobcentre and benefits office for you now.
What a shame for all the bulgarian romanians immigrants whose jobs these would have been. Back to the jobcentre and benefits office for you now. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: -7

11:40am Fri 25 Jul 14

Nikski says...

Juleyanne wrote:
What would go down a storm is an M & S in Newhaven. There is no M & S for miles to serve from East Saltdean, Peacehaven, Newhaven, Seaford, Lewes a huge area of high population. The nearest is Eastbourne or Brighton which is too far for many, particularly the elderly. A decent quality clothing and smalls outlet would fill a big gap of a much needed facility.
What about an IKEA?
[quote][p][bold]Juleyanne[/bold] wrote: What would go down a storm is an M & S in Newhaven. There is no M & S for miles to serve from East Saltdean, Peacehaven, Newhaven, Seaford, Lewes a huge area of high population. The nearest is Eastbourne or Brighton which is too far for many, particularly the elderly. A decent quality clothing and smalls outlet would fill a big gap of a much needed facility.[/p][/quote]What about an IKEA? Nikski
  • Score: 2

1:52pm Fri 25 Jul 14

the old funker says...

Juleyanne wrote:
What would go down a storm is an M & S in Newhaven. There is no M & S for miles to serve from East Saltdean, Peacehaven, Newhaven, Seaford, Lewes a huge area of high population. The nearest is Eastbourne or Brighton which is too far for many, particularly the elderly. A decent quality clothing and smalls outlet would fill a big gap of a much needed facility.
. I like your thinking What do the people want and how to encourage new money into Newhaven . Lots of good comments from real people not the developers point of view.
[quote][p][bold]Juleyanne[/bold] wrote: What would go down a storm is an M & S in Newhaven. There is no M & S for miles to serve from East Saltdean, Peacehaven, Newhaven, Seaford, Lewes a huge area of high population. The nearest is Eastbourne or Brighton which is too far for many, particularly the elderly. A decent quality clothing and smalls outlet would fill a big gap of a much needed facility.[/p][/quote]. I like your thinking What do the people want and how to encourage new money into Newhaven . Lots of good comments from real people not the developers point of view. the old funker
  • Score: 1

7:28am Fri 1 Aug 14

argchat says...

All the plan for Sussex is homes, more homes and even more homes with absolutely no thoughts on where people are going to find work, no thoughts on the extra pressure it will place on our services, no thoughts on the congestion it will cause on existing roads. The governments see this as progression and somehow we have to be grateful for it. Its all a load of BS and just an excuse for letting too many people in to our country in the first place which has created a shifting of people and a need for more housing, when the truth is nobody is better off, jobs are harder to come by, and the space around us is getting smaller, anybody thought about their quality if life? Sussex is changing too quickly which leaves local people at a disadvantage.
All the plan for Sussex is homes, more homes and even more homes with absolutely no thoughts on where people are going to find work, no thoughts on the extra pressure it will place on our services, no thoughts on the congestion it will cause on existing roads. The governments see this as progression and somehow we have to be grateful for it. Its all a load of BS and just an excuse for letting too many people in to our country in the first place which has created a shifting of people and a need for more housing, when the truth is nobody is better off, jobs are harder to come by, and the space around us is getting smaller, anybody thought about their quality if life? Sussex is changing too quickly which leaves local people at a disadvantage. argchat
  • Score: 3

3:26am Sun 3 Aug 14

The Real Justin Case says...

sussexram40 wrote:
It was never viable anyway.
Newhaven is a small, run down town. But it has a big Sainsburys, a big Co-Op and a big Lidl. It could never have supported a big Asda as well!
Seaford just along the coast has only 1 proper supermarket - a Morrisons.
Fact is, Newhaven is a dump. It's a dumping ground - look at the new incinerator pumping out smoke.
Take a walk down Newhaven High Street (hidden away by the ring road) and play spot the open shop!
As under Thatcher so under Cameron. High Streets full of empty shops. The only major retailers still trading are food shops. Newhaven's High St is bettered by being bypassed and would be pleasant place to shop if only residents had enough disposable wealth to go shopping. As opposed to going on a penny stretching exercise to Lidl or the Co Op.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: It was never viable anyway. Newhaven is a small, run down town. But it has a big Sainsburys, a big Co-Op and a big Lidl. It could never have supported a big Asda as well! Seaford just along the coast has only 1 proper supermarket - a Morrisons. Fact is, Newhaven is a dump. It's a dumping ground - look at the new incinerator pumping out smoke. Take a walk down Newhaven High Street (hidden away by the ring road) and play spot the open shop![/p][/quote]As under Thatcher so under Cameron. High Streets full of empty shops. The only major retailers still trading are food shops. Newhaven's High St is bettered by being bypassed and would be pleasant place to shop if only residents had enough disposable wealth to go shopping. As opposed to going on a penny stretching exercise to Lidl or the Co Op. The Real Justin Case
  • Score: 3

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