Anger as M&S stock Fat Girl Slim products branded ‘sad’ and ‘exploitative’

Anger at ‘sexist’ beauty range on sale at M&S

Anger at ‘sexist’ beauty range on sale at M&S

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A WOMAN is calling on a high street retailer to re-consider its decision to stock a “sexist” beauty range called Fat Girl Slim.

Frances Joseph, 41, from Brighton, said the selection of female beauty products at Marks and Spencer in Western Road, Brighton, was “exploitative, dangerous and sad”.

The range includes anti-cellulite cream, arm moisturiser called ‘arm candy’ and a stomach-toning gel called ‘sixpack’.

Ms Joseph, who has started an online petition against the range, which is manufactured by beauty firm Bliss, said: “Sign the petition to work towards feminism and to prevent Bliss and other beauty product companies making sexist products like this.

“It's not okay to have a collection called ‘Fat Girl Slim’ that targets girls and young women.”

Ms Joseph said the manager of the store claimed it was “out of his hands” – so she took her complaint to social networking site Twitter.

Gill Ditch, from Brighton, commented: “Is this real? No - it must be a spoof”.

Clare Rogers from Brighton said: “ I'm not seeing the joke here.”

Marks and Spencer responded to the Tweet suggesting the products played on the name of Brighton DJ Fatboy Slim and “did not intend to cause offence”.

Ms Joseph said: “Many of us, agree that this is deeply inappropriate branding for a cosmetics range. I'm pretty shocked and disappointed that M&S of all people would choose to stock this brand.

“There's a clear implication that tummy cream will help to give you a six-pack, another product will give you toned arms and so on.

“They are overtly targeting insecure young women.

“It's really exploitative, dangerous and sad.”

A spokeswoman from Marks and Spencer said: “This product range is part of independent beauty brand Bliss and is not intended to cause offence to our customers.”

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6:22am Sat 26 Jul 14

ohhumanity says...

"Lets work towards feminism". I'm a woman, and I say... no thanks.

People only find offence in these sort of products when they actively try and seek offence. This woman has too much time on her hands. As a larger woman myself, I don't see anything offensive about these products. Actually, when I read the name was "Fat girl slim" I immediately thought of Fat boy slim. Does that mean he should change his name as it causes offence to males?

Arm and stomach toning gel has been around for a while now. The name "sixpack" may be misleading but they're just names of products. I don't think lynx chocolate is actually spraying chocolate on you.

People get offended over the stupidest thing nowdays because the internet gives them the free will to contact a large amount of people. If this woman put her efforts into a campaign to help the homeless, disabled children or vulnerable elders, she could do great work. Instead she's doing it for media coverage, knowing that the argus would write a news article for anyone woman who starts crying that something's not fair.

I also do find it funny that she seems to be speaking for all young girls who this product range is targeted at. Maybe we should listen to the young girls opinion on whether or not this product range is offensive to them, instead of listening to a woman who seems to think everyone shares her opinion.
"Lets work towards feminism". I'm a woman, and I say... no thanks. People only find offence in these sort of products when they actively try and seek offence. This woman has too much time on her hands. As a larger woman myself, I don't see anything offensive about these products. Actually, when I read the name was "Fat girl slim" I immediately thought of Fat boy slim. Does that mean he should change his name as it causes offence to males? Arm and stomach toning gel has been around for a while now. The name "sixpack" may be misleading but they're just names of products. I don't think lynx chocolate is actually spraying chocolate on you. People get offended over the stupidest thing nowdays because the internet gives them the free will to contact a large amount of people. If this woman put her efforts into a campaign to help the homeless, disabled children or vulnerable elders, she could do great work. Instead she's doing it for media coverage, knowing that the argus would write a news article for anyone woman who starts crying that something's not fair. I also do find it funny that she seems to be speaking for all young girls who this product range is targeted at. Maybe we should listen to the young girls opinion on whether or not this product range is offensive to them, instead of listening to a woman who seems to think everyone shares her opinion. ohhumanity
  • Score: 124

6:37am Sat 26 Jul 14

Mart says...

On behalf of all wimmin everywhere I am OUTRAGED by this OUTRAGE, and to anybody that hasn't yet experienced this exploitative OUTRAGE I am also extremely OUTRAGED but on their behalf.

Outraged of Muesli Mountain.
On behalf of all wimmin everywhere I am OUTRAGED by this OUTRAGE, and to anybody that hasn't yet experienced this exploitative OUTRAGE I am also extremely OUTRAGED but on their behalf. Outraged of Muesli Mountain. Mart
  • Score: 48

6:43am Sat 26 Jul 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

This woman needs to get a grip!

Is it my fault that she can't get a boyfriend?
This woman needs to get a grip! Is it my fault that she can't get a boyfriend? Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: 51

7:12am Sat 26 Jul 14

matlock says...

Perhaps she should ask M&S to stop selling padded bras because they target insecure women? ...Perhaps banish all bras as they are blatantly sexist. Come to think of it, get rid of the Ladies section entirely.
Perhaps she should ask M&S to stop selling padded bras because they target insecure women? ...Perhaps banish all bras as they are blatantly sexist. Come to think of it, get rid of the Ladies section entirely. matlock
  • Score: 73

7:43am Sat 26 Jul 14

ohhumanity says...

matlock wrote:
Perhaps she should ask M&S to stop selling padded bras because they target insecure women? ...Perhaps banish all bras as they are blatantly sexist. Come to think of it, get rid of the Ladies section entirely.
Sanitary towels and tampons are sexist too. Women should be able to bleed freely!
[quote][p][bold]matlock[/bold] wrote: Perhaps she should ask M&S to stop selling padded bras because they target insecure women? ...Perhaps banish all bras as they are blatantly sexist. Come to think of it, get rid of the Ladies section entirely.[/p][/quote]Sanitary towels and tampons are sexist too. Women should be able to bleed freely! ohhumanity
  • Score: 33

8:01am Sat 26 Jul 14

college says...

Aha, Facebook and it's amazing guaranteed 15 minutes of fame.
Perfect platform for the axe grinders and PC brigade with all their petty gripes and whinges.
Aha, Facebook and it's amazing guaranteed 15 minutes of fame. Perfect platform for the axe grinders and PC brigade with all their petty gripes and whinges. college
  • Score: 28

8:03am Sat 26 Jul 14

hoveguyactually says...

Most advertising is aimed at human insecurity, especially beauty products. Many of us look at pictures of cars, homes, clothes, holidays, which we would love to be able to afford, but we don't go around asking for them to be banned because they make us feel insecure.

Does this stupid woman, with her cockeyed feminist ideas, plan to ban all advertisements? Fat girls are fat, and there are plenty of those around Brighton and Hove. Just walk along Western Road at any time of day. Slim is what most of us would like to be. It is up to the purchaser to decide whether or no the product is worth buying, and more importantly, if the advertisement honest.

And incidentally, has the Argus not got more important news that it has to give prominence to this nonsense?
Most advertising is aimed at human insecurity, especially beauty products. Many of us look at pictures of cars, homes, clothes, holidays, which we would love to be able to afford, but we don't go around asking for them to be banned because they make us feel insecure. Does this stupid woman, with her cockeyed feminist ideas, plan to ban all advertisements? Fat girls are fat, and there are plenty of those around Brighton and Hove. Just walk along Western Road at any time of day. Slim is what most of us would like to be. It is up to the purchaser to decide whether or no the product is worth buying, and more importantly, if the advertisement honest. And incidentally, has the Argus not got more important news that it has to give prominence to this nonsense? hoveguyactually
  • Score: 32

8:27am Sat 26 Jul 14

NathanAdler says...

I imagine Francis Joseph is a munter, and that is why she has got the hump over this.
I imagine Francis Joseph is a munter, and that is why she has got the hump over this. NathanAdler
  • Score: 2

8:40am Sat 26 Jul 14

lindaf says...

This woman seriously needs to get over herself, I bet she spends all her time just looking for things like this...sad.
This woman seriously needs to get over herself, I bet she spends all her time just looking for things like this...sad. lindaf
  • Score: 33

8:40am Sat 26 Jul 14

Bill in Hanover says...

Considering the fact that most cosmetics aimed at women come in girly colours and wrappings and those targeted at men attempt give a 'macho' image I'd say that the whole industry is 'sexist', Does she want the whole marketing strategy overhauled simply because she objects to something..
Considering the fact that most cosmetics aimed at women come in girly colours and wrappings and those targeted at men attempt give a 'macho' image I'd say that the whole industry is 'sexist', Does she want the whole marketing strategy overhauled simply because she objects to something.. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 33

9:07am Sat 26 Jul 14

Jeff Leppard says...

"Bingo-wings-a-go-go
" instead?
"Bingo-wings-a-go-go " instead? Jeff Leppard
  • Score: 15

9:17am Sat 26 Jul 14

Morpheus says...

She should object to them being called beauty products because they don't seem to be working.
She should object to them being called beauty products because they don't seem to be working. Morpheus
  • Score: 16

9:57am Sat 26 Jul 14

Max Ripple says...

NathanAdler wrote:
I imagine Francis Joseph is a munter, and that is why she has got the hump over this.
Oo what is a munter? New tag on me, this one.
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: I imagine Francis Joseph is a munter, and that is why she has got the hump over this.[/p][/quote]Oo what is a munter? New tag on me, this one. Max Ripple
  • Score: -4

10:02am Sat 26 Jul 14

Binnybanny says...

Ms Joseph, can you smell something?

Neither can I, get the dinner on.
Ms Joseph, can you smell something? Neither can I, get the dinner on. Binnybanny
  • Score: 15

10:08am Sat 26 Jul 14

Patsyr says...

NathanAdler wrote:
I imagine Francis Joseph is a munter, and that is why she has got the hump over this.
Sorry, what is a munter?
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: I imagine Francis Joseph is a munter, and that is why she has got the hump over this.[/p][/quote]Sorry, what is a munter? Patsyr
  • Score: 1

10:57am Sat 26 Jul 14

Binnybanny says...

Patsyr wrote:
NathanAdler wrote:
I imagine Francis Joseph is a munter, and that is why she has got the hump over this.
Sorry, what is a munter?
Next step up from a minger.
[quote][p][bold]Patsyr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: I imagine Francis Joseph is a munter, and that is why she has got the hump over this.[/p][/quote]Sorry, what is a munter?[/p][/quote]Next step up from a minger. Binnybanny
  • Score: 12

11:12am Sat 26 Jul 14

Jo-AnneBrighton says...

I am surprised my the comments on this page. Perhaps you are not aware that the NHS is currently overwhelmed by the increasing number of cases of bullemia and eating disorders in young people. That fact alone should make you rethink what the constant barrage of sexist media and advertising is doing to the mental health of our youngster.
I am surprised my the comments on this page. Perhaps you are not aware that the NHS is currently overwhelmed by the increasing number of cases of bullemia and eating disorders in young people. That fact alone should make you rethink what the constant barrage of sexist media and advertising is doing to the mental health of our youngster. Jo-AnneBrighton
  • Score: -24

11:25am Sat 26 Jul 14

leedsnowfan says...

Im still shocked and stunned at "I cant believe its not butter". Basically saying people are foolish and cant tell the difference. SO UPSETTING! Oh if only theyd taken my advice with "Shut up thats peanut butter"
Im still shocked and stunned at "I cant believe its not butter". Basically saying people are foolish and cant tell the difference. SO UPSETTING! Oh if only theyd taken my advice with "Shut up thats peanut butter" leedsnowfan
  • Score: 3

11:36am Sat 26 Jul 14

Bluebeef says...

Jo-AnneBrighton wrote:
I am surprised my the comments on this page. Perhaps you are not aware that the NHS is currently overwhelmed by the increasing number of cases of bullemia and eating disorders in young people. That fact alone should make you rethink what the constant barrage of sexist media and advertising is doing to the mental health of our youngster.
Very surprisingly indeed, I find myself rather in agreement with this post.
There seems little doubt that the subliminal and more overt messages to vulnerable teenagers that "you can only be attractive if you're slim" are at least a partial cause of the alarming increase in eating disorders. If you have ever seen someone close to you suffer in this tragic way you too might take a step back.
[quote][p][bold]Jo-AnneBrighton[/bold] wrote: I am surprised my the comments on this page. Perhaps you are not aware that the NHS is currently overwhelmed by the increasing number of cases of bullemia and eating disorders in young people. That fact alone should make you rethink what the constant barrage of sexist media and advertising is doing to the mental health of our youngster.[/p][/quote]Very surprisingly indeed, I find myself rather in agreement with this post. There seems little doubt that the subliminal and more overt messages to vulnerable teenagers that "you can only be attractive if you're slim" are at least a partial cause of the alarming increase in eating disorders. If you have ever seen someone close to you suffer in this tragic way you too might take a step back. Bluebeef
  • Score: -8

11:38am Sat 26 Jul 14

woodie49 says...

ohhumanity wrote:
"Lets work towards feminism". I'm a woman, and I say... no thanks.

People only find offence in these sort of products when they actively try and seek offence. This woman has too much time on her hands. As a larger woman myself, I don't see anything offensive about these products. Actually, when I read the name was "Fat girl slim" I immediately thought of Fat boy slim. Does that mean he should change his name as it causes offence to males?

Arm and stomach toning gel has been around for a while now. The name "sixpack" may be misleading but they're just names of products. I don't think lynx chocolate is actually spraying chocolate on you.

People get offended over the stupidest thing nowdays because the internet gives them the free will to contact a large amount of people. If this woman put her efforts into a campaign to help the homeless, disabled children or vulnerable elders, she could do great work. Instead she's doing it for media coverage, knowing that the argus would write a news article for anyone woman who starts crying that something's not fair.

I also do find it funny that she seems to be speaking for all young girls who this product range is targeted at. Maybe we should listen to the young girls opinion on whether or not this product range is offensive to them, instead of listening to a woman who seems to think everyone shares her opinion.
I totally agree with everything you have commented on here, Frances Joseph must be one sad 41 year old.
[quote][p][bold]ohhumanity[/bold] wrote: "Lets work towards feminism". I'm a woman, and I say... no thanks. People only find offence in these sort of products when they actively try and seek offence. This woman has too much time on her hands. As a larger woman myself, I don't see anything offensive about these products. Actually, when I read the name was "Fat girl slim" I immediately thought of Fat boy slim. Does that mean he should change his name as it causes offence to males? Arm and stomach toning gel has been around for a while now. The name "sixpack" may be misleading but they're just names of products. I don't think lynx chocolate is actually spraying chocolate on you. People get offended over the stupidest thing nowdays because the internet gives them the free will to contact a large amount of people. If this woman put her efforts into a campaign to help the homeless, disabled children or vulnerable elders, she could do great work. Instead she's doing it for media coverage, knowing that the argus would write a news article for anyone woman who starts crying that something's not fair. I also do find it funny that she seems to be speaking for all young girls who this product range is targeted at. Maybe we should listen to the young girls opinion on whether or not this product range is offensive to them, instead of listening to a woman who seems to think everyone shares her opinion.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with everything you have commented on here, Frances Joseph must be one sad 41 year old. woodie49
  • Score: 17

11:41am Sat 26 Jul 14

woodie49 says...

Mart wrote:
On behalf of all wimmin everywhere I am OUTRAGED by this OUTRAGE, and to anybody that hasn't yet experienced this exploitative OUTRAGE I am also extremely OUTRAGED but on their behalf.

Outraged of Muesli Mountain.
Outrageous !!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mart[/bold] wrote: On behalf of all wimmin everywhere I am OUTRAGED by this OUTRAGE, and to anybody that hasn't yet experienced this exploitative OUTRAGE I am also extremely OUTRAGED but on their behalf. Outraged of Muesli Mountain.[/p][/quote]Outrageous !!!!!!!!!!! woodie49
  • Score: 4

11:50am Sat 26 Jul 14

fiddlewithmysticks says...

Yeah, if you could just stop the whole blue & pink thing...
Yeah, if you could just stop the whole blue & pink thing... fiddlewithmysticks
  • Score: 2

12:19pm Sat 26 Jul 14

JeevesMcMontague says...

Hello. I'm calling on a high street retailer to NOT re-consider its decision to stock a “sexist” beauty range called Fat Girl Slim.

Hopefully The Argus will publish my story later today.
Hello. I'm calling on a high street retailer to NOT re-consider its decision to stock a “sexist” beauty range called Fat Girl Slim. Hopefully The Argus will publish my story later today. JeevesMcMontague
  • Score: 5

12:40pm Sat 26 Jul 14

speakerscorner says...

You don't have to buy it or shop in that shop. Just like a TV it has an on/off. Please when you next see a life go by........grab it.
You don't have to buy it or shop in that shop. Just like a TV it has an on/off. Please when you next see a life go by........grab it. speakerscorner
  • Score: 19

1:15pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Bob_The_Ferret says...

Is the complainant also upset at HMV and other record stores selling Fatboy Slim records?
Is the complainant also upset at HMV and other record stores selling Fatboy Slim records? Bob_The_Ferret
  • Score: 13

1:15pm Sat 26 Jul 14

David523 says...

People just deliberately confuse something being wrong, with something being sexist, cos it suits their narrow paranoid world view. This product is wrong, yes, but if you think it is sexist, you are literally out of your mind. Thats why only 1 such crazy complained, and why no one else agrees with her. She should get some help, or get a life.
People just deliberately confuse something being wrong, with something being sexist, cos it suits their narrow paranoid world view. This product is wrong, yes, but if you think it is sexist, you are literally out of your mind. Thats why only 1 such crazy complained, and why no one else agrees with her. She should get some help, or get a life. David523
  • Score: 6

1:37pm Sat 26 Jul 14

sussexram40 says...

How pathetic. There are people dying, there are terrible atrocities going on in the world. Perhaps one day this woman will have some real problems in life.
Beyond silly. The Argus shouldn't give nutters like this any column space.
How pathetic. There are people dying, there are terrible atrocities going on in the world. Perhaps one day this woman will have some real problems in life. Beyond silly. The Argus shouldn't give nutters like this any column space. sussexram40
  • Score: 14

3:01pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Goldenwight says...

We might do better to look at the actual contents of the cosmetics themselves. Usually, these are (pretty much) completely harmless goop, but those little plastic derma-abrasion beads can have a devastating effect on marine life, for example. And some cosmetics contain hormones & similar which, although they have little or no effect when applied topically to the human body, have ecological effects such as turning male fish female.

With respect to this outraged lady (and the other commenters here who share her understandable views), she might do better spending her time trying to bring attention to facts like this.
We might do better to look at the actual contents of the cosmetics themselves. Usually, these are (pretty much) completely harmless goop, but those little plastic derma-abrasion beads can have a devastating effect on marine life, for example. And some cosmetics contain hormones & similar which, although they have little or no effect when applied topically to the human body, have ecological effects such as turning male fish female. With respect to this outraged lady (and the other commenters here who share her understandable views), she might do better spending her time trying to bring attention to facts like this. Goldenwight
  • Score: 4

3:12pm Sat 26 Jul 14

bikerjimbo says...

I thought it was a good play on words and has certainly helped advertise the product but all the hype over something so trivial, really? I agree with some of the posters on here she needs to get a life or just shut up. But there is nothing wrong with bad publicity and free to Bliss
.
I thought it was a good play on words and has certainly helped advertise the product but all the hype over something so trivial, really? I agree with some of the posters on here she needs to get a life or just shut up. But there is nothing wrong with bad publicity and free to Bliss . bikerjimbo
  • Score: 4

3:50pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Binnybanny says...

Perhaps Ms Joseph should go Ann Summers shop to try the battery operated "Bored Girl Moan" range?
It might be right up her street and give her something to moan on, instead of moaning about!
Perhaps Ms Joseph should go Ann Summers shop to try the battery operated "Bored Girl Moan" range? It might be right up her street and give her something to moan on, instead of moaning about! Binnybanny
  • Score: 9

7:58pm Sat 26 Jul 14

puddingandpi says...

*ALL* beauty ranges are sexist! That's the whole point!
Please find something more important to campaign about & leave this stuff to them as wants it.
*ALL* beauty ranges are sexist! That's the whole point! Please find something more important to campaign about & leave this stuff to them as wants it. puddingandpi
  • Score: 8

8:52pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Matt@onbeach says...

Just found her facebook page, hardly kicking a storm.
Typically her job is described as " local government " so basically she is another left wing loonie pen pusher, who wears sandals to work, reads the Guardian all day. And achieves sod all , all paid for by us.
Just found her facebook page, hardly kicking a storm. Typically her job is described as " local government " so basically she is another left wing loonie pen pusher, who wears sandals to work, reads the Guardian all day. And achieves sod all , all paid for by us. Matt@onbeach
  • Score: 6

11:39pm Sat 26 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

Goldenwight wrote:
We might do better to look at the actual contents of the cosmetics themselves. Usually, these are (pretty much) completely harmless goop, but those little plastic derma-abrasion beads can have a devastating effect on marine life, for example. And some cosmetics contain hormones & similar which, although they have little or no effect when applied topically to the human body, have ecological effects such as turning male fish female.

With respect to this outraged lady (and the other commenters here who share her understandable views), she might do better spending her time trying to bring attention to facts like this.
I think there is a fair point that this is typical advertising of a useless product by exploiting insecurity.

But you bring up a very interesting subject that is currently playing very big with our German brothers and sisters. How many people know that their toothpaste and other products contain plastic abrasive micro beads? Not only does this source of plastic add to our heavy pollution footprint, but a proportion passes through our bodies. There is no benefit to this product.
[quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: We might do better to look at the actual contents of the cosmetics themselves. Usually, these are (pretty much) completely harmless goop, but those little plastic derma-abrasion beads can have a devastating effect on marine life, for example. And some cosmetics contain hormones & similar which, although they have little or no effect when applied topically to the human body, have ecological effects such as turning male fish female. With respect to this outraged lady (and the other commenters here who share her understandable views), she might do better spending her time trying to bring attention to facts like this.[/p][/quote]I think there is a fair point that this is typical advertising of a useless product by exploiting insecurity. But you bring up a very interesting subject that is currently playing very big with our German brothers and sisters. How many people know that their toothpaste and other products contain plastic abrasive micro beads? Not only does this source of plastic add to our heavy pollution footprint, but a proportion passes through our bodies. There is no benefit to this product. HJarrs
  • Score: -3

12:41am Sun 27 Jul 14

cynic_the says...

Jo-AnneBrighton wrote:
I am surprised my the comments on this page. Perhaps you are not aware that the NHS is currently overwhelmed by the increasing number of cases of bullemia and eating disorders in young people. That fact alone should make you rethink what the constant barrage of sexist media and advertising is doing to the mental health of our youngster.
you'd think that someone so passionate about bulimia would be able to spell it....?
[quote][p][bold]Jo-AnneBrighton[/bold] wrote: I am surprised my the comments on this page. Perhaps you are not aware that the NHS is currently overwhelmed by the increasing number of cases of bullemia and eating disorders in young people. That fact alone should make you rethink what the constant barrage of sexist media and advertising is doing to the mental health of our youngster.[/p][/quote]you'd think that someone so passionate about bulimia would be able to spell it....? cynic_the
  • Score: 7

7:45am Sun 27 Jul 14

hoveguyactually says...

Maybe all these people who complain about these products should see a psychiatrist to learn what it is that is making get so worked up about it.
Maybe all these people who complain about these products should see a psychiatrist to learn what it is that is making get so worked up about it. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 5

8:26am Sun 27 Jul 14

Old Ale Man says...

I'm betting she's another candidate for the list of loony green councillors.
I wonder if loony Lucas is supporting this whinger?
I'm betting she's another candidate for the list of loony green councillors. I wonder if loony Lucas is supporting this whinger? Old Ale Man
  • Score: 3

11:10am Sun 27 Jul 14

ohhumanity says...

Jo-AnneBrighton wrote:
I am surprised my the comments on this page. Perhaps you are not aware that the NHS is currently overwhelmed by the increasing number of cases of bullemia and eating disorders in young people. That fact alone should make you rethink what the constant barrage of sexist media and advertising is doing to the mental health of our youngster.
I am surprised by your comment on this page. Perhaps you are not aware that the NHS is currently overwhelmed by the increasing number of obesity cases and other obesity triggered illnesses and diseases. We are having to pay for extra large ambulances and medical equipment to help those who let themselves get that big, causing a massive strain on the staff and resources who work to try and keep people alive who have let themselves go.

And I talk from personal experience here, my Dad died two years ago. He weighed 40 stone due to a thyroid problem and generally overeating. He collapsed a few months before he died and had to call an ambulance. They needed to send out a specialist vehicle and use equipment to lift him into the ambulance, as ambulance staff were unable to lift him. When he died (heart attack at home) they again needed this equipment. Not all obesity cases are as serious as this, but they still cause a dramatic impact on money allocation, with this equipment costing thousands of pounds to buy and maintain.

I am so sick of people saying we shouldn't be "promoting skinniness" to young people. There is nothing wrong with being skinny so long as you are healthy. We should teach our children to be fit and healthy, to exercise and keep themselves within a healthy BMI.

My point is, I see nothing offensive about these products. If you choose to see it as 'offensive' don't buy it. No one is forcing you to. Kids ARE very impressionable, but so were we when we were that age. You live, you learn, you find yourself. Trying to ban anything that YOU personally do not like, is stopping other people from learning. Who knows, kids may look at these products and think they're shocking, they might look at them and think "what's the point in buying it, it probably wont work" some kids might think it's a good idea.

We all made mistakes when we were younger, some may be worse than others (I was a self harmer, I learned from my mistakes and haven't harmed myself in almost 10 years) but it is character building, it is teaching your children to make their own decisions. I'm sorry for the long rant, but even as a woman, I find feminism is the most offensive thing to women. They make sexists look like reasonable people.
[quote][p][bold]Jo-AnneBrighton[/bold] wrote: I am surprised my the comments on this page. Perhaps you are not aware that the NHS is currently overwhelmed by the increasing number of cases of bullemia and eating disorders in young people. That fact alone should make you rethink what the constant barrage of sexist media and advertising is doing to the mental health of our youngster.[/p][/quote]I am surprised by your comment on this page. Perhaps you are not aware that the NHS is currently overwhelmed by the increasing number of obesity cases and other obesity triggered illnesses and diseases. We are having to pay for extra large ambulances and medical equipment to help those who let themselves get that big, causing a massive strain on the staff and resources who work to try and keep people alive who have let themselves go. And I talk from personal experience here, my Dad died two years ago. He weighed 40 stone due to a thyroid problem and generally overeating. He collapsed a few months before he died and had to call an ambulance. They needed to send out a specialist vehicle and use equipment to lift him into the ambulance, as ambulance staff were unable to lift him. When he died (heart attack at home) they again needed this equipment. Not all obesity cases are as serious as this, but they still cause a dramatic impact on money allocation, with this equipment costing thousands of pounds to buy and maintain. I am so sick of people saying we shouldn't be "promoting skinniness" to young people. There is nothing wrong with being skinny so long as you are healthy. We should teach our children to be fit and healthy, to exercise and keep themselves within a healthy BMI. My point is, I see nothing offensive about these products. If you choose to see it as 'offensive' don't buy it. No one is forcing you to. Kids ARE very impressionable, but so were we when we were that age. You live, you learn, you find yourself. Trying to ban anything that YOU personally do not like, is stopping other people from learning. Who knows, kids may look at these products and think they're shocking, they might look at them and think "what's the point in buying it, it probably wont work" some kids might think it's a good idea. We all made mistakes when we were younger, some may be worse than others (I was a self harmer, I learned from my mistakes and haven't harmed myself in almost 10 years) but it is character building, it is teaching your children to make their own decisions. I'm sorry for the long rant, but even as a woman, I find feminism is the most offensive thing to women. They make sexists look like reasonable people. ohhumanity
  • Score: 9

12:08am Mon 28 Jul 14

mark mellor says...

A great advert for M&S - word has it since Hannah started her ridiculous campaign that the products are flying off the shelves. M&S are selling the range for less than most other stores who sell this range. It's also stocked in John Lewis but you don't get the free gift in John Lewis that you get from M&S with a purchase from this range. Also if you read the product reviews you woman are rating this product very highly.
A great advert for M&S - word has it since Hannah started her ridiculous campaign that the products are flying off the shelves. M&S are selling the range for less than most other stores who sell this range. It's also stocked in John Lewis but you don't get the free gift in John Lewis that you get from M&S with a purchase from this range. Also if you read the product reviews you woman are rating this product very highly. mark mellor
  • Score: 1

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