Huge step for Brighton's i360 as first ground is broken

The ground breaking of the i360 on Brighton Seafront. Picture: Tony Wood (TW290714B2)

The ground breaking of the i360 on Brighton Seafront. Picture: Tony Wood (TW290714B2)

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A MOMENTOUS occasion was hailed with the unveiling of a multimillion-pound seafront regeneration project and the ground-breaking of the i360.

The Brighton i360 – a £40 million “vertical pier” - is set to transform the west end of the seafront.

Jason Kitcat, leader of Brighton and Hove City Council, promised the tower, with the world’s first vertical cable car, would help the area flourish.

He said: “This world’s first is going to have huge impact in Brighton and Hove. It will put us on the map to a whole new level.

“Every other tourist destination in the world is innovating. We cannot stand still.

“It felt like a bold and risky thing to do, but sometimes you have just got to go forward if it’s the right thing.”

Architect David Marks, who designed the London Eye, said the tower would pay tribute to the 150-year-old West Pier by reusing original features such as the toll booths.

Visitors will be able to be one-and-half times higher than Sussex Heights and see large swathes of the South Downs National Park and 20 to 30 miles along the coast.

The innovative structure will be shipped to shore and built in sections by engineers such as JT Mackley, based in Small Dole, and Hemsley Orrell Partnership, based in Hove.

Mr Marks said: “All of Brighton and Hove will be at your feet.

“Once complete, a piece of Brighton and Hove heritage will be brought back to life.”

The £40 million project has been paid for with a £36 million council bid to the government’s public works loan board, which is loaned to Brighton i360 Ltd.

The remaining £4 million was loaned by Coast to Capital Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP).

Meanwhile the new award-winning seafront arches, which replaced the crumbling Victorian originals, feature a new creative quarter, which will house eight independent units and studios.

Councillor Ian Davey, lead member for transport, told how the regeneration project began more than two years ago after fears were raised over the deteriorating arches’ capacity to support the promenade and A259.

The new bridge structure can support up to 40 tons and has a brick facade, a reproduction of the original.

The 26 arches now house ten units and studios, including The Lollipop Shoppe, hair studio Banana Louis and The Hat Hut.

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7:45am Wed 30 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

The city continues to move forward.

Over to the moanerati.
The city continues to move forward. Over to the moanerati. HJarrs
  • Score: -53

8:05am Wed 30 Jul 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

I'm all for it!
People are entirely uninterested in the beauty of the South Downs; the simple beauty of the ocean nor the thrill of the quaint shops in The Laines.

Therefore, this quick-fix of excitement should cater nicely to the hoardes as well as bringing in lots of revenue.

(However, if I hear another i360 exponent enthusing about how this will put Brighton and Hove 'on the map', I shall surely scream.)
I'm all for it! People are entirely uninterested in the beauty of the South Downs; the simple beauty of the ocean nor the thrill of the quaint shops in The Laines. Therefore, this quick-fix of excitement should cater nicely to the hoardes as well as bringing in lots of revenue. (However, if I hear another i360 exponent enthusing about how this will put Brighton and Hove 'on the map', I shall surely scream.) Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -7

8:06am Wed 30 Jul 14

john newman says...

The will of the people seems to mean nothing. The majority of people do not want this structure because we have other issues more pressing to the city and the population of Brighton and Hove. We need an integrated transport system that includes a regenerated Pool Valley and other things not a wild gamble on a project like this. Why not an ice rink we can all use and other such amenties.
The will of the people seems to mean nothing. The majority of people do not want this structure because we have other issues more pressing to the city and the population of Brighton and Hove. We need an integrated transport system that includes a regenerated Pool Valley and other things not a wild gamble on a project like this. Why not an ice rink we can all use and other such amenties. john newman
  • Score: 68

8:09am Wed 30 Jul 14

rogerthefish says...

"Jason Kitcat, leader of Brighton and Hove City Council, promised the tower, with the world’s first vertical cable car, would help the area flourish."

We do not need it, beach/hotels are full already, traffic is grid locked (you finally made it) the seafront needs maintenance, when are you going to attend to the collapsed Kings road...open your eyes
"Jason Kitcat, leader of Brighton and Hove City Council, promised the tower, with the world’s first vertical cable car, would help the area flourish." We do not need it, beach/hotels are full already, traffic is grid locked (you finally made it) the seafront needs maintenance, when are you going to attend to the collapsed Kings road...open your eyes rogerthefish
  • Score: 83

8:10am Wed 30 Jul 14

ThinkBrighton says...

HJarrs wrote:
The city continues to move forward.

Over to the moanerati.
Only the greens would call a fairground ride a major regeneration project
As for moving forward hj you 've still got your head up your green 4rse
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: The city continues to move forward. Over to the moanerati.[/p][/quote]Only the greens would call a fairground ride a major regeneration project As for moving forward hj you 've still got your head up your green 4rse ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 68

8:13am Wed 30 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

rogerthefish wrote:
"Jason Kitcat, leader of Brighton and Hove City Council, promised the tower, with the world’s first vertical cable car, would help the area flourish."

We do not need it, beach/hotels are full already, traffic is grid locked (you finally made it) the seafront needs maintenance, when are you going to attend to the collapsed Kings road...open your eyes
It seems that a number of arches have been maintained, as you suggest. Even better, they are now lettable spaces that will now generate revenue.
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: "Jason Kitcat, leader of Brighton and Hove City Council, promised the tower, with the world’s first vertical cable car, would help the area flourish." We do not need it, beach/hotels are full already, traffic is grid locked (you finally made it) the seafront needs maintenance, when are you going to attend to the collapsed Kings road...open your eyes[/p][/quote]It seems that a number of arches have been maintained, as you suggest. Even better, they are now lettable spaces that will now generate revenue. HJarrs
  • Score: -52

8:29am Wed 30 Jul 14

Nivag1 says...

"the world's first vertical cable car..."

Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...
"the world's first vertical cable car..." Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying... Nivag1
  • Score: 48

8:30am Wed 30 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

Great. So even Jason Kitcat is now calling it a "risky thing to do". Too right it's risky Jason. Have you seen the widly optimistic visitor projections? And how come everyone else's hats fit them, but you've been given a child's 'Bob the Builder' hat?
Great. So even Jason Kitcat is now calling it a "risky thing to do". Too right it's risky Jason. Have you seen the widly optimistic visitor projections? And how come everyone else's hats fit them, but you've been given a child's 'Bob the Builder' hat? Quiterie
  • Score: 36

8:57am Wed 30 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

I do hope Jason and Geoff leave a forwarding address so we can send them the bill when it all goes wrong. i360, epitaph not legacy.
I do hope Jason and Geoff leave a forwarding address so we can send them the bill when it all goes wrong. i360, epitaph not legacy. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 58

8:58am Wed 30 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

HJarrs wrote:
The city continues to move forward.

Over to the moanerati.
Can you explain to me please the logic of the Greens voting against improving the road infrastructure near the city - i.e. the recent vote on improving the diabolical A27 at Worthing, Chichester, Arundel etc.... when the Council are expecting 66% of visitors to the i360 to arrive by car? Some joined up thinking wouldn't go amiss.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: The city continues to move forward. Over to the moanerati.[/p][/quote]Can you explain to me please the logic of the Greens voting against improving the road infrastructure near the city - i.e. the recent vote on improving the diabolical A27 at Worthing, Chichester, Arundel etc.... when the Council are expecting 66% of visitors to the i360 to arrive by car? Some joined up thinking wouldn't go amiss. Quiterie
  • Score: 59

9:04am Wed 30 Jul 14

monkeymoo says...

Nivag1 wrote:
"the world's first vertical cable car..."

Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...
Great point, well made.

Why is this monstrosity costing £40m?
The one (almost identical) in Weymouth was built for a fraction of the cost just a couple of years ago.

tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk
[quote][p][bold]Nivag1[/bold] wrote: "the world's first vertical cable car..." Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...[/p][/quote]Great point, well made. Why is this monstrosity costing £40m? The one (almost identical) in Weymouth was built for a fraction of the cost just a couple of years ago. tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk monkeymoo
  • Score: 42

9:25am Wed 30 Jul 14

Morpheus says...

"a piece of Brighton and Hove heritage will be brought back to life"- What on earth are they talking about?
"a piece of Brighton and Hove heritage will be brought back to life"- What on earth are they talking about? Morpheus
  • Score: 40

9:30am Wed 30 Jul 14

worthingite says...

The FRONT page picture said 'STORY ON PAGE 5' it was in fact on PAGE 7 LOL, International subbing mistake again....
The FRONT page picture said 'STORY ON PAGE 5' it was in fact on PAGE 7 LOL, International subbing mistake again.... worthingite
  • Score: 2

10:25am Wed 30 Jul 14

Saltdean Resident says...

Nivag1 wrote:
"the world's first vertical cable car..."

Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...
Ive never been a fan of this project but its here now so we've either got to get on with it and see what it can provide the city or conatantly let it be the monkey on your back. From what i can see none of the money came from the council, all from central government funds. And to compare it to Weymouth is a bit of a dis-service, the one in Weymouth is 174ft high this one is 600ft high, also the one in Weymouth has nothing much around it where at least the decrepit old arches that no one used have been rebuilt and will put businesses and jobs in that area. Got to try and see the positives how ever much we disagreed with it, no going back now.
[quote][p][bold]Nivag1[/bold] wrote: "the world's first vertical cable car..." Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...[/p][/quote]Ive never been a fan of this project but its here now so we've either got to get on with it and see what it can provide the city or conatantly let it be the monkey on your back. From what i can see none of the money came from the council, all from central government funds. And to compare it to Weymouth is a bit of a dis-service, the one in Weymouth is 174ft high this one is 600ft high, also the one in Weymouth has nothing much around it where at least the decrepit old arches that no one used have been rebuilt and will put businesses and jobs in that area. Got to try and see the positives how ever much we disagreed with it, no going back now. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: -6

10:50am Wed 30 Jul 14

rolivan says...

I see the cost has changed again it was £46.2m So where has the reduction in costs come from ? Is it a coincidence that the reduction in costs is the same amount that Marks Barfield were putting in and now the loan has been approved that was just some creative accounting measure that was put in place to make it look like they were putting in £6m but didn't really do so?
I see the cost has changed again it was £46.2m So where has the reduction in costs come from ? Is it a coincidence that the reduction in costs is the same amount that Marks Barfield were putting in and now the loan has been approved that was just some creative accounting measure that was put in place to make it look like they were putting in £6m but didn't really do so? rolivan
  • Score: 9

11:05am Wed 30 Jul 14

Joshiman says...

Paint the West pier Gold .Would look stunning .Well they waste money on other useless schemes.
Paint the West pier Gold .Would look stunning .Well they waste money on other useless schemes. Joshiman
  • Score: 12

11:06am Wed 30 Jul 14

Daisyb2uk says...

And meanwhile the rusting railings will continue to rust for lack of maintenance and a coat of paint. Well done Greens!!
And meanwhile the rusting railings will continue to rust for lack of maintenance and a coat of paint. Well done Greens!! Daisyb2uk
  • Score: 12

11:10am Wed 30 Jul 14

Bugzy84 says...

I'll agree that the arches on the western side have tidied up that area (the mini light show is quite nice too) and hopefully the same result will happen with the eastern side once it is finished, I'm astounded they can call it a world first, Weymouth is just a miniature version and an identical 300ft observation tower was designed for the Weston-super-Mare Pier after it burned down and is under construction.
I'll agree that the arches on the western side have tidied up that area (the mini light show is quite nice too) and hopefully the same result will happen with the eastern side once it is finished, I'm astounded they can call it a world first, Weymouth is just a miniature version and an identical 300ft observation tower was designed for the Weston-super-Mare Pier after it burned down and is under construction. Bugzy84
  • Score: 3

11:14am Wed 30 Jul 14

cazza25 says...

i360 doesn't seem like a very imaginative or tourist-friendly title for our latest seafront accessory. Maybe we should have a competition to select a more attractive name.

If I may start the ball rolling I suggest, on a holiday town theme, the Ice (I See) Lolly.

Alternatively, if London can have The Shard then maybe we can have The Doughnut on a Stick.
i360 doesn't seem like a very imaginative or tourist-friendly title for our latest seafront accessory. Maybe we should have a competition to select a more attractive name. If I may start the ball rolling I suggest, on a holiday town theme, the Ice (I See) Lolly. Alternatively, if London can have The Shard then maybe we can have The Doughnut on a Stick. cazza25
  • Score: 4

11:16am Wed 30 Jul 14

anniem8 says...

I think Brighton has enough going for it without this ridiculous structure. It will be a rusty eyesore a few years time. At least the West Pier was beautiful before it was left to deteriorate. If visitors want to look to the horizon of Brighton they can go on the big wheel beside the Brighton Pier. Half of the view will be sea. Not very interesting.
What a waste of money!
I think Brighton has enough going for it without this ridiculous structure. It will be a rusty eyesore a few years time. At least the West Pier was beautiful before it was left to deteriorate. If visitors want to look to the horizon of Brighton they can go on the big wheel beside the Brighton Pier. Half of the view will be sea. Not very interesting. What a waste of money! anniem8
  • Score: 12

11:31am Wed 30 Jul 14

Fairfax Aches says...

This is a grate idea im lookin forward too it. Hopefuly we will b able to see as far as worthign an deatbourne peers, that woud be quality! Just an idea can residends of brighton get a discount like the pavilon?
This is a grate idea im lookin forward too it. Hopefuly we will b able to see as far as worthign an deatbourne peers, that woud be quality! Just an idea can residends of brighton get a discount like the pavilon? Fairfax Aches
  • Score: -10

11:48am Wed 30 Jul 14

PracticeNotTheories says...

Great to have a big lightning conductor, so we won't have problems on the trains in storms! At least will be useful in that regard!
Great to have a big lightning conductor, so we won't have problems on the trains in storms! At least will be useful in that regard! PracticeNotTheories
  • Score: 4

11:57am Wed 30 Jul 14

Andy R says...

john newman wrote:
The will of the people seems to mean nothing. The majority of people do not want this structure because we have other issues more pressing to the city and the population of Brighton and Hove. We need an integrated transport system that includes a regenerated Pool Valley and other things not a wild gamble on a project like this. Why not an ice rink we can all use and other such amenties.
What's your basis for the claim that "the majority of people don't want this structure...."? Genuine question.
[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: The will of the people seems to mean nothing. The majority of people do not want this structure because we have other issues more pressing to the city and the population of Brighton and Hove. We need an integrated transport system that includes a regenerated Pool Valley and other things not a wild gamble on a project like this. Why not an ice rink we can all use and other such amenties.[/p][/quote]What's your basis for the claim that "the majority of people don't want this structure...."? Genuine question. Andy R
  • Score: -9

12:00pm Wed 30 Jul 14

KarenT says...

I wish there was some mention of when it's all due to be finished?
I wish there was some mention of when it's all due to be finished? KarenT
  • Score: -4

12:01pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Bugzy84 says...

Fairfax Aches wrote:
This is a grate idea im lookin forward too it. Hopefuly we will b able to see as far as worthign an deatbourne peers, that woud be quality! Just an idea can residends of brighton get a discount like the pavilon?
No discounts, but here is a voucher for a free dictionary.
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: This is a grate idea im lookin forward too it. Hopefuly we will b able to see as far as worthign an deatbourne peers, that woud be quality! Just an idea can residends of brighton get a discount like the pavilon?[/p][/quote]No discounts, but here is a voucher for a free dictionary. Bugzy84
  • Score: 12

12:02pm Wed 30 Jul 14

KarenT says...

KarenT wrote:
I wish there was some mention of when it's all due to be finished?
Just checked the i360 website - summer 2016. Wish it was next summer, but I guess that's a bit ambitious.
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I wish there was some mention of when it's all due to be finished?[/p][/quote]Just checked the i360 website - summer 2016. Wish it was next summer, but I guess that's a bit ambitious. KarenT
  • Score: -2

12:04pm Wed 30 Jul 14

speakerscorner says...

What is it with you lot!! Its called pro-active progress to improve an area which is need of regeneration. Don't you want more people to come and see the wonderful city that we all live in? It will bring money in, jobs, tourists, all good for the local economy.

None of you has come up with a better solution. Less moaning a more positivity PLEASE.
What is it with you lot!! Its called pro-active progress to improve an area which is need of regeneration. Don't you want more people to come and see the wonderful city that we all live in? It will bring money in, jobs, tourists, all good for the local economy. None of you has come up with a better solution. Less moaning a more positivity PLEASE. speakerscorner
  • Score: -14

12:09pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) says...

The incompetent and incapable 'snot' Green Council will no-doubt still find a way to b*gger this up.

What a wonderful testament to the wretched and spiteful Green Council; a 600 foot-tall butt-plug...
The incompetent and incapable 'snot' Green Council will no-doubt still find a way to b*gger this up. What a wonderful testament to the wretched and spiteful Green Council; a 600 foot-tall butt-plug... Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)
  • Score: 5

12:12pm Wed 30 Jul 14

whatevernext2013 says...

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) wrote:
The incompetent and incapable 'snot' Green Council will no-doubt still find a way to b*gger this up.

What a wonderful testament to the wretched and spiteful Green Council; a 600 foot-tall butt-plug...
fits in well with pride
[quote][p][bold]Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)[/bold] wrote: The incompetent and incapable 'snot' Green Council will no-doubt still find a way to b*gger this up. What a wonderful testament to the wretched and spiteful Green Council; a 600 foot-tall butt-plug...[/p][/quote]fits in well with pride whatevernext2013
  • Score: 4

12:17pm Wed 30 Jul 14

whatevernext2013 says...

speakerscorner wrote:
What is it with you lot!! Its called pro-active progress to improve an area which is need of regeneration. Don't you want more people to come and see the wonderful city that we all live in? It will bring money in, jobs, tourists, all good for the local economy.

None of you has come up with a better solution. Less moaning a more positivity PLEASE.
more people in to the city and were will they park ? the city is full of homeless people sleeping in doorways ,on a sunny day its one big traffic jam from pyecombe ,and the jobs will all be at the bottom end of the market so people will still be able to claim benefits ,so tells us were is the upside from all this
[quote][p][bold]speakerscorner[/bold] wrote: What is it with you lot!! Its called pro-active progress to improve an area which is need of regeneration. Don't you want more people to come and see the wonderful city that we all live in? It will bring money in, jobs, tourists, all good for the local economy. None of you has come up with a better solution. Less moaning a more positivity PLEASE.[/p][/quote]more people in to the city and were will they park ? the city is full of homeless people sleeping in doorways ,on a sunny day its one big traffic jam from pyecombe ,and the jobs will all be at the bottom end of the market so people will still be able to claim benefits ,so tells us were is the upside from all this whatevernext2013
  • Score: 13

12:17pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Lady Smith says...

Morpheus wrote:
"a piece of Brighton and Hove heritage will be brought back to life"- What on earth are they talking about?
Yes, I was wondering about that statement too. Does the poor deluded man believe that, by building a 'vertical pier', it's bringing the West Pier back?
[quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: "a piece of Brighton and Hove heritage will be brought back to life"- What on earth are they talking about?[/p][/quote]Yes, I was wondering about that statement too. Does the poor deluded man believe that, by building a 'vertical pier', it's bringing the West Pier back? Lady Smith
  • Score: 8

12:18pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Lady Smith says...

cazza25 wrote:
i360 doesn't seem like a very imaginative or tourist-friendly title for our latest seafront accessory. Maybe we should have a competition to select a more attractive name.

If I may start the ball rolling I suggest, on a holiday town theme, the Ice (I See) Lolly.

Alternatively, if London can have The Shard then maybe we can have The Doughnut on a Stick.
How about iSore?
[quote][p][bold]cazza25[/bold] wrote: i360 doesn't seem like a very imaginative or tourist-friendly title for our latest seafront accessory. Maybe we should have a competition to select a more attractive name. If I may start the ball rolling I suggest, on a holiday town theme, the Ice (I See) Lolly. Alternatively, if London can have The Shard then maybe we can have The Doughnut on a Stick.[/p][/quote]How about iSore? Lady Smith
  • Score: 9

12:20pm Wed 30 Jul 14

whatevernext2013 says...

anniem8 wrote:
I think Brighton has enough going for it without this ridiculous structure. It will be a rusty eyesore a few years time. At least the West Pier was beautiful before it was left to deteriorate. If visitors want to look to the horizon of Brighton they can go on the big wheel beside the Brighton Pier. Half of the view will be sea. Not very interesting.
What a waste of money!
have you ever seen the big wheel full
[quote][p][bold]anniem8[/bold] wrote: I think Brighton has enough going for it without this ridiculous structure. It will be a rusty eyesore a few years time. At least the West Pier was beautiful before it was left to deteriorate. If visitors want to look to the horizon of Brighton they can go on the big wheel beside the Brighton Pier. Half of the view will be sea. Not very interesting. What a waste of money![/p][/quote]have you ever seen the big wheel full whatevernext2013
  • Score: 10

12:34pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Man of steel says...

When did the iSore get renamed as the vertical pier.
Is that so that we forget how much money the west pier trust (no capitals for them any more) wasted on meetings, plans, solicitors etc.
When did the iSore get renamed as the vertical pier. Is that so that we forget how much money the west pier trust (no capitals for them any more) wasted on meetings, plans, solicitors etc. Man of steel
  • Score: 5

1:27pm Wed 30 Jul 14

rolivan says...

Man of steel wrote:
When did the iSore get renamed as the vertical pier.
Is that so that we forget how much money the west pier trust (no capitals for them any more) wasted on meetings, plans, solicitors etc.
It has taken me ages to find out however it would seem that The West Pier Trust will receive at Least £100,000 a year in rent once the i360 is built . The next question is what will they do with these funds and the rest that they have collected over the years .It was reported that it would be too costly to remove the piles of the existing Pier as they were built to a certain specification and yet the ones that were taken out recently seem to have been excavated with ease . As there is only £12,000 a year being paid to Rachel Clark I wonder where the other £90,000 a year will be Spent?
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: When did the iSore get renamed as the vertical pier. Is that so that we forget how much money the west pier trust (no capitals for them any more) wasted on meetings, plans, solicitors etc.[/p][/quote]It has taken me ages to find out however it would seem that The West Pier Trust will receive at Least £100,000 a year in rent once the i360 is built . The next question is what will they do with these funds and the rest that they have collected over the years .It was reported that it would be too costly to remove the piles of the existing Pier as they were built to a certain specification and yet the ones that were taken out recently seem to have been excavated with ease . As there is only £12,000 a year being paid to Rachel Clark I wonder where the other £90,000 a year will be Spent? rolivan
  • Score: 10

2:05pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Legal1974 says...

Saltdean Resident wrote:
Nivag1 wrote: "the world's first vertical cable car..." Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...
Ive never been a fan of this project but its here now so we've either got to get on with it and see what it can provide the city or conatantly let it be the monkey on your back. From what i can see none of the money came from the council, all from central government funds. And to compare it to Weymouth is a bit of a dis-service, the one in Weymouth is 174ft high this one is 600ft high, also the one in Weymouth has nothing much around it where at least the decrepit old arches that no one used have been rebuilt and will put businesses and jobs in that area. Got to try and see the positives how ever much we disagreed with it, no going back now.
I'm guessing you didn't read the article properly - ALL the money is a loan. The clue is in the word 'loaned' use twice...

"The £40 million project has been paid for with a £36 million council bid to the government’s public works loan board, which is loaned to Brighton i360 Ltd.

The remaining £4 million was loaned by Coast to Capital Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP). "
[quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nivag1[/bold] wrote: "the world's first vertical cable car..." Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...[/p][/quote]Ive never been a fan of this project but its here now so we've either got to get on with it and see what it can provide the city or conatantly let it be the monkey on your back. From what i can see none of the money came from the council, all from central government funds. And to compare it to Weymouth is a bit of a dis-service, the one in Weymouth is 174ft high this one is 600ft high, also the one in Weymouth has nothing much around it where at least the decrepit old arches that no one used have been rebuilt and will put businesses and jobs in that area. Got to try and see the positives how ever much we disagreed with it, no going back now.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing you didn't read the article properly - ALL the money is a loan. The clue is in the word 'loaned' use twice... "The £40 million project has been paid for with a £36 million council bid to the government’s public works loan board, which is loaned to Brighton i360 Ltd. The remaining £4 million was loaned by Coast to Capital Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP). " Legal1974
  • Score: 3

2:09pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Saltdean Resident says...

Legal1974 wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
Nivag1 wrote: "the world's first vertical cable car..." Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...
Ive never been a fan of this project but its here now so we've either got to get on with it and see what it can provide the city or conatantly let it be the monkey on your back. From what i can see none of the money came from the council, all from central government funds. And to compare it to Weymouth is a bit of a dis-service, the one in Weymouth is 174ft high this one is 600ft high, also the one in Weymouth has nothing much around it where at least the decrepit old arches that no one used have been rebuilt and will put businesses and jobs in that area. Got to try and see the positives how ever much we disagreed with it, no going back now.
I'm guessing you didn't read the article properly - ALL the money is a loan. The clue is in the word 'loaned' use twice...

"The £40 million project has been paid for with a £36 million council bid to the government’s public works loan board, which is loaned to Brighton i360 Ltd.

The remaining £4 million was loaned by Coast to Capital Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP). "
I didnt say it wasn't. Chill.
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nivag1[/bold] wrote: "the world's first vertical cable car..." Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...[/p][/quote]Ive never been a fan of this project but its here now so we've either got to get on with it and see what it can provide the city or conatantly let it be the monkey on your back. From what i can see none of the money came from the council, all from central government funds. And to compare it to Weymouth is a bit of a dis-service, the one in Weymouth is 174ft high this one is 600ft high, also the one in Weymouth has nothing much around it where at least the decrepit old arches that no one used have been rebuilt and will put businesses and jobs in that area. Got to try and see the positives how ever much we disagreed with it, no going back now.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing you didn't read the article properly - ALL the money is a loan. The clue is in the word 'loaned' use twice... "The £40 million project has been paid for with a £36 million council bid to the government’s public works loan board, which is loaned to Brighton i360 Ltd. The remaining £4 million was loaned by Coast to Capital Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP). "[/p][/quote]I didnt say it wasn't. Chill. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 2

2:29pm Wed 30 Jul 14

jo_brown says...

Think its brilliant! Cities need to evolve and change in order to flourish. I bet all the moaners on here are the same people who fought against the West Pier renovation and are currently trying to thwart the Hippodrome's planning consent. Onwards and upwards..literally!!
Think its brilliant! Cities need to evolve and change in order to flourish. I bet all the moaners on here are the same people who fought against the West Pier renovation and are currently trying to thwart the Hippodrome's planning consent. Onwards and upwards..literally!! jo_brown
  • Score: -7

3:10pm Wed 30 Jul 14

speakerscorner says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
speakerscorner wrote:
What is it with you lot!! Its called pro-active progress to improve an area which is need of regeneration. Don't you want more people to come and see the wonderful city that we all live in? It will bring money in, jobs, tourists, all good for the local economy.

None of you has come up with a better solution. Less moaning a more positivity PLEASE.
more people in to the city and were will they park ? the city is full of homeless people sleeping in doorways ,on a sunny day its one big traffic jam from pyecombe ,and the jobs will all be at the bottom end of the market so people will still be able to claim benefits ,so tells us were is the upside from all this
When you see a life go by - grap it
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speakerscorner[/bold] wrote: What is it with you lot!! Its called pro-active progress to improve an area which is need of regeneration. Don't you want more people to come and see the wonderful city that we all live in? It will bring money in, jobs, tourists, all good for the local economy. None of you has come up with a better solution. Less moaning a more positivity PLEASE.[/p][/quote]more people in to the city and were will they park ? the city is full of homeless people sleeping in doorways ,on a sunny day its one big traffic jam from pyecombe ,and the jobs will all be at the bottom end of the market so people will still be able to claim benefits ,so tells us were is the upside from all this[/p][/quote]When you see a life go by - grap it speakerscorner
  • Score: 1

3:28pm Wed 30 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

Legal1974 wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
Nivag1 wrote: "the world's first vertical cable car..." Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...
Ive never been a fan of this project but its here now so we've either got to get on with it and see what it can provide the city or conatantly let it be the monkey on your back. From what i can see none of the money came from the council, all from central government funds. And to compare it to Weymouth is a bit of a dis-service, the one in Weymouth is 174ft high this one is 600ft high, also the one in Weymouth has nothing much around it where at least the decrepit old arches that no one used have been rebuilt and will put businesses and jobs in that area. Got to try and see the positives how ever much we disagreed with it, no going back now.
I'm guessing you didn't read the article properly - ALL the money is a loan. The clue is in the word 'loaned' use twice...

"The £40 million project has been paid for with a £36 million council bid to the government’s public works loan board, which is loaned to Brighton i360 Ltd.

The remaining £4 million was loaned by Coast to Capital Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP). "
The same Coast to Capital that Jason Kitcat is a director of? Conflict of interest methinks and one that will come back to haunt him.
[quote][p][bold]Legal1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nivag1[/bold] wrote: "the world's first vertical cable car..." Hmmm, so the one in Weymouth - tinyurl.com/mr8aqpk - is nothing like the i360? Interestingly, that only cost £3.5 million to build as well and that was only a couple of years ago. Just saying...[/p][/quote]Ive never been a fan of this project but its here now so we've either got to get on with it and see what it can provide the city or conatantly let it be the monkey on your back. From what i can see none of the money came from the council, all from central government funds. And to compare it to Weymouth is a bit of a dis-service, the one in Weymouth is 174ft high this one is 600ft high, also the one in Weymouth has nothing much around it where at least the decrepit old arches that no one used have been rebuilt and will put businesses and jobs in that area. Got to try and see the positives how ever much we disagreed with it, no going back now.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing you didn't read the article properly - ALL the money is a loan. The clue is in the word 'loaned' use twice... "The £40 million project has been paid for with a £36 million council bid to the government’s public works loan board, which is loaned to Brighton i360 Ltd. The remaining £4 million was loaned by Coast to Capital Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP). "[/p][/quote]The same Coast to Capital that Jason Kitcat is a director of? Conflict of interest methinks and one that will come back to haunt him. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 4

3:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Hoarder12345444 says...

I genuinely don't get the negativity around this. I think it will be great. Yes, ok so the seafront needs sorting out too, but surely this will be good for Brighton and Hove.
I genuinely don't get the negativity around this. I think it will be great. Yes, ok so the seafront needs sorting out too, but surely this will be good for Brighton and Hove. Hoarder12345444
  • Score: -7

4:10pm Wed 30 Jul 14

PracticeNotTheories says...

I think it will be great to see the crop of new windmills that will be sprouting up on the horizon.
From the shoreline, a person of 6" would be able to see 'around' 3 miles, and at the road level (5m higher) around 6 miles. With the wind farm being 8-15miles off the coast, you would only see the blades on the horizon.

However, with a 162m high tower (550 feet), you should be able to see 28.7miles, which means you should see the bases quite well.

So it's actually a Green Project viewing platform?
I think it will be great to see the crop of new windmills that will be sprouting up on the horizon. From the shoreline, a person of 6" would be able to see 'around' 3 miles, and at the road level (5m higher) around 6 miles. With the wind farm being 8-15miles off the coast, you would only see the blades on the horizon. However, with a 162m high tower (550 feet), you should be able to see 28.7miles, which means you should see the bases quite well. So it's actually a Green Project viewing platform? PracticeNotTheories
  • Score: 1

4:32pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Bill in Hanover says...

HJarrs wrote:
The city continues to move forward.

Over to the moanerati.
I quite like the Brighton eye, although I've never been on it, but the i360 appears to serve no purpose and has all the makings of a white elephant. Who is going to pay good money to be whisked 600 feet above gtround so that they can look at the sea on one side and a City on the other.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: The city continues to move forward. Over to the moanerati.[/p][/quote]I quite like the Brighton eye, although I've never been on it, but the i360 appears to serve no purpose and has all the makings of a white elephant. Who is going to pay good money to be whisked 600 feet above gtround so that they can look at the sea on one side and a City on the other. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 2

8:32pm Wed 30 Jul 14

JasonShitCat says...

Great news. This will transform Hove to be the greenest city in the universe. Don't forget - the i stands for 'impressive'.
Great news. This will transform Hove to be the greenest city in the universe. Don't forget - the i stands for 'impressive'. JasonShitCat
  • Score: 2

8:53pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Mike Ockslong says...

Anyone fancy a pint?
Anyone fancy a pint? Mike Ockslong
  • Score: 3

9:06pm Wed 30 Jul 14

The Real Curious George says...

HJarrs wrote:
The city continues to move forward.

Over to the moanerati.
Right folks, it's quite easy... someone out there cut 'n' paste all of this idiot's continued comments regarding this project.... then in a couple of years time, when the sh1t hits the fan, publish it all in this paper, seek him out and kick his 4rse when all his comments telling us how wonderful it will be all turns to crap.

Ok, I guess it would just be easier just to ignore this sockpuppet but it would be great to see what he has to say when it all goes tits up... like the Brighton Eye, which is barely (if at all) making a profit.

yawn
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: The city continues to move forward. Over to the moanerati.[/p][/quote]Right folks, it's quite easy... someone out there cut 'n' paste all of this idiot's continued comments regarding this project.... then in a couple of years time, when the sh1t hits the fan, publish it all in this paper, seek him out and kick his 4rse when all his comments telling us how wonderful it will be all turns to crap. Ok, I guess it would just be easier just to ignore this sockpuppet but it would be great to see what he has to say when it all goes tits up... like the Brighton Eye, which is barely (if at all) making a profit. yawn The Real Curious George
  • Score: 1

9:22pm Wed 30 Jul 14

driverchris53 says...

They are wasting millions of £s on this ugly monstrosity when they wouldnt spend anything on saving the wonderful West Pier
They are wasting millions of £s on this ugly monstrosity when they wouldnt spend anything on saving the wonderful West Pier driverchris53
  • Score: 5

9:24pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Valerie Paynter says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
I'm all for it!
People are entirely uninterested in the beauty of the South Downs; the simple beauty of the ocean nor the thrill of the quaint shops in The Laines.

Therefore, this quick-fix of excitement should cater nicely to the hoardes as well as bringing in lots of revenue.

(However, if I hear another i360 exponent enthusing about how this will put Brighton and Hove 'on the map', I shall surely scream.)
You presumably understand the hoardes to be hen and stag do's, yes? We already know David Marks has said they plan to use the glass box for weddings....so advertising it for that will ensure they get the hens and stags.

Nice.
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: I'm all for it! People are entirely uninterested in the beauty of the South Downs; the simple beauty of the ocean nor the thrill of the quaint shops in The Laines. Therefore, this quick-fix of excitement should cater nicely to the hoardes as well as bringing in lots of revenue. (However, if I hear another i360 exponent enthusing about how this will put Brighton and Hove 'on the map', I shall surely scream.)[/p][/quote]You presumably understand the hoardes to be hen and stag do's, yes? We already know David Marks has said they plan to use the glass box for weddings....so advertising it for that will ensure they get the hens and stags. Nice. Valerie Paynter
  • Score: 0

9:35pm Wed 30 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

The Real Curious George wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
The city continues to move forward.

Over to the moanerati.
Right folks, it's quite easy... someone out there cut 'n' paste all of this idiot's continued comments regarding this project.... then in a couple of years time, when the sh1t hits the fan, publish it all in this paper, seek him out and kick his 4rse when all his comments telling us how wonderful it will be all turns to crap.

Ok, I guess it would just be easier just to ignore this sockpuppet but it would be great to see what he has to say when it all goes tits up... like the Brighton Eye, which is barely (if at all) making a profit.

yawn
Hmmm, boot would be on my foot first for all those that the city would be ruined and a ghost town for building a few cycle paths.
[quote][p][bold]The Real Curious George[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: The city continues to move forward. Over to the moanerati.[/p][/quote]Right folks, it's quite easy... someone out there cut 'n' paste all of this idiot's continued comments regarding this project.... then in a couple of years time, when the sh1t hits the fan, publish it all in this paper, seek him out and kick his 4rse when all his comments telling us how wonderful it will be all turns to crap. Ok, I guess it would just be easier just to ignore this sockpuppet but it would be great to see what he has to say when it all goes tits up... like the Brighton Eye, which is barely (if at all) making a profit. yawn[/p][/quote]Hmmm, boot would be on my foot first for all those that the city would be ruined and a ghost town for building a few cycle paths. HJarrs
  • Score: -8

9:40pm Wed 30 Jul 14

driverchris53 says...

This council have given no help to save another of Brighton's treasures The Hippodrome The seafront has been allowed to fall into disrepair for years and no money been spent on that I have lived in Brighton for 60 years and am ashamed of what it has become It is not the great place it once was
This council have given no help to save another of Brighton's treasures The Hippodrome The seafront has been allowed to fall into disrepair for years and no money been spent on that I have lived in Brighton for 60 years and am ashamed of what it has become It is not the great place it once was driverchris53
  • Score: 5

9:44pm Wed 30 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

driverchris53 wrote:
This council have given no help to save another of Brighton's treasures The Hippodrome The seafront has been allowed to fall into disrepair for years and no money been spent on that I have lived in Brighton for 60 years and am ashamed of what it has become It is not the great place it once was
It's been shut for donkeys years!
[quote][p][bold]driverchris53[/bold] wrote: This council have given no help to save another of Brighton's treasures The Hippodrome The seafront has been allowed to fall into disrepair for years and no money been spent on that I have lived in Brighton for 60 years and am ashamed of what it has become It is not the great place it once was[/p][/quote]It's been shut for donkeys years! HJarrs
  • Score: -5

9:53pm Wed 30 Jul 14

jo_brown says...

driverchris53 wrote:
This council have given no help to save another of Brighton's treasures The Hippodrome The seafront has been allowed to fall into disrepair for years and no money been spent on that I have lived in Brighton for 60 years and am ashamed of what it has become It is not the great place it once was
The council do not own the Hippodrome. The council have given planning consent to the owners for the Hippodrome to be restored and converted for cinema/restaurant use. This will save the building for the future rather than leave it to rot away like it has been for the past 10 years when no one gave a stuff! Those people signing the petition to "save" the Hippodrome are misguided as they are in danger of consigning the Building to the same fate as the West Pier. Simple.
[quote][p][bold]driverchris53[/bold] wrote: This council have given no help to save another of Brighton's treasures The Hippodrome The seafront has been allowed to fall into disrepair for years and no money been spent on that I have lived in Brighton for 60 years and am ashamed of what it has become It is not the great place it once was[/p][/quote]The council do not own the Hippodrome. The council have given planning consent to the owners for the Hippodrome to be restored and converted for cinema/restaurant use. This will save the building for the future rather than leave it to rot away like it has been for the past 10 years when no one gave a stuff! Those people signing the petition to "save" the Hippodrome are misguided as they are in danger of consigning the Building to the same fate as the West Pier. Simple. jo_brown
  • Score: -1

10:20pm Wed 30 Jul 14

KarenT says...

speakerscorner wrote:
What is it with you lot!! Its called pro-active progress to improve an area which is need of regeneration. Don't you want more people to come and see the wonderful city that we all live in? It will bring money in, jobs, tourists, all good for the local economy.

None of you has come up with a better solution. Less moaning a more positivity PLEASE.
"Positivity"? You've got to be kidding. The Argus commentators are nothing but bored and unoccupied people whose sole purpose in life is to rubbish anything and everything, typing away whilst sat in their little bedsits. People who are busy with life have no time for such obsessions, so you are bound to have a skewed view. Whether it be seagulls or the i360 or cycle lanes or the colour of wheelie bins.... Let them moan, it makes them feel purposeful, they've not got much else to look forward to.
[quote][p][bold]speakerscorner[/bold] wrote: What is it with you lot!! Its called pro-active progress to improve an area which is need of regeneration. Don't you want more people to come and see the wonderful city that we all live in? It will bring money in, jobs, tourists, all good for the local economy. None of you has come up with a better solution. Less moaning a more positivity PLEASE.[/p][/quote]"Positivity"? You've got to be kidding. The Argus commentators are nothing but bored and unoccupied people whose sole purpose in life is to rubbish anything and everything, typing away whilst sat in their little bedsits. People who are busy with life have no time for such obsessions, so you are bound to have a skewed view. Whether it be seagulls or the i360 or cycle lanes or the colour of wheelie bins.... Let them moan, it makes them feel purposeful, they've not got much else to look forward to. KarenT
  • Score: -9

10:34pm Wed 30 Jul 14

MasonStorm says...

This is going to be a disaster for the city.
This is going to be a disaster for the city. MasonStorm
  • Score: 6

10:46pm Wed 30 Jul 14

KarenT says...

MasonStorm wrote:
This is going to be a disaster for the city.
Yep, I expect it will be hit by lightening, and then start a fire in all of Hove, and everything will be burnt to the ground, and then everyone will have to live underground in the sewers, and then a comet will hit, and rats will come, followed by a city-wide plague of death. Hold on to your seats everyone, it will be an unmitigated disaster.
[quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: This is going to be a disaster for the city.[/p][/quote]Yep, I expect it will be hit by lightening, and then start a fire in all of Hove, and everything will be burnt to the ground, and then everyone will have to live underground in the sewers, and then a comet will hit, and rats will come, followed by a city-wide plague of death. Hold on to your seats everyone, it will be an unmitigated disaster. KarenT
  • Score: -7

12:30am Thu 31 Jul 14

perfectseaviews says...

KarenT wrote:
I wish there was some mention of when it's all due to be finished?
Hmmmm.....Summer 2016
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: I wish there was some mention of when it's all due to be finished?[/p][/quote]Hmmmm.....Summer 2016 perfectseaviews
  • Score: -2

7:30am Thu 31 Jul 14

1styummymummy says...

What a waste of Brightonians hard earned money, £30 million should have been spent on the hosuing crisis in the City and not on another useless tourist attraction. We dont need this, Brighton is already heaving under the strain of tourists, which yes we need, but we dont need this. We already have a crappy wheel, which isnt ever that busy. I begrudge the fact that I'll be payong for this out of my Council Tax. Someone is clearly sitting in the pockets of 'someone' to have gotton it through to this point. Shame on Brighton Council and Jason Kitkat for allowing this and Caroline Lucas for not speaking up. Useless the pair of them.
What a waste of Brightonians hard earned money, £30 million should have been spent on the hosuing crisis in the City and not on another useless tourist attraction. We dont need this, Brighton is already heaving under the strain of tourists, which yes we need, but we dont need this. We already have a crappy wheel, which isnt ever that busy. I begrudge the fact that I'll be payong for this out of my Council Tax. Someone is clearly sitting in the pockets of 'someone' to have gotton it through to this point. Shame on Brighton Council and Jason Kitkat for allowing this and Caroline Lucas for not speaking up. Useless the pair of them. 1styummymummy
  • Score: 5

11:23am Thu 31 Jul 14

Man of steel says...

HJarrs wrote:
driverchris53 wrote:
This council have given no help to save another of Brighton's treasures The Hippodrome The seafront has been allowed to fall into disrepair for years and no money been spent on that I have lived in Brighton for 60 years and am ashamed of what it has become It is not the great place it once was
It's been shut for donkeys years!
For once I agree with Hjarrs, yes Brighton has been closed for years, ever since the greens took over.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]driverchris53[/bold] wrote: This council have given no help to save another of Brighton's treasures The Hippodrome The seafront has been allowed to fall into disrepair for years and no money been spent on that I have lived in Brighton for 60 years and am ashamed of what it has become It is not the great place it once was[/p][/quote]It's been shut for donkeys years![/p][/quote]For once I agree with Hjarrs, yes Brighton has been closed for years, ever since the greens took over. Man of steel
  • Score: 1

6:09pm Thu 31 Jul 14

1styummymummy says...

I do hope Jason Kitkat has bothered to read these comments and taken on board the over whelming negativity for this. Caroline Lucas also needs to take these views on board. It really is disgusting that the Council has been allowed to get away with this, and seems to clearly indicate some pay offs to get it through. I haven't been aware of a public consultation, and if I missed it then it was done very quietly. Miss Lucas stop fighting the Fracking and getting yourself arrested and do something positive for the City by stepping in and fighting this. I will not be paying out the cost on my Council Tax bill thank you and I suspect many other residents will be tempted to do too.
I do hope Jason Kitkat has bothered to read these comments and taken on board the over whelming negativity for this. Caroline Lucas also needs to take these views on board. It really is disgusting that the Council has been allowed to get away with this, and seems to clearly indicate some pay offs to get it through. I haven't been aware of a public consultation, and if I missed it then it was done very quietly. Miss Lucas stop fighting the Fracking and getting yourself arrested and do something positive for the City by stepping in and fighting this. I will not be paying out the cost on my Council Tax bill thank you and I suspect many other residents will be tempted to do too. 1styummymummy
  • Score: 1

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