Labour slates ‘white, 50-plus male Tories’ fighting general election seats in Brighton and Hove

Councillor Warren Morgan,

Councillor Warren Morgan,

First published in News

LABOUR has hit out at the selection of three “white, fifty-something males” as Conservative candidates to contest Parliamentary seats in Brighton and Hove next May.

Former police chief and current Brighton and Hove city councillor Graham Cox was selected by the Conservatives as their candidate for Hove on Wednesday night, joining counterpart Clarence Mitchell for Brighton Pavilion along with Simon Kirby defending his Brighton Kemptown seat.

Warren Morgan, the Labour and Co-operative leader on Brighton and Hove City Council, said: “The selection of three straight, white, fifty-something males as Tory parliamentary candidates in the city contrasts with Labour’s choice of Purna Sen, Nancy Platts and Peter Kyle, who will better represent our diverse and modern city in the House of Commons.”

Coun Cox said: “I was a little bit disappointed at Labour’s response but that’s politics.”

He said Labour did not undertand that diversity was not just about gender, race and sexuality but also about class.

“We increasingly hear from working class residents who no longer feel represented in Brighton and Hove,” he said.

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10:17am Sun 3 Aug 14

Quiterie says...

This argument might carry a bit more weight if it wasn't a "white, fifty-something male" saying it........
This argument might carry a bit more weight if it wasn't a "white, fifty-something male" saying it........ Quiterie
  • Score: 50

10:19am Sun 3 Aug 14

Reporter1 says...

It does not matter what gender, age or any persuasion they are. Isn't that what Brighton is about/
It does not matter what gender, age or any persuasion they are. Isn't that what Brighton is about/ Reporter1
  • Score: 36

10:33am Sun 3 Aug 14

BURIRAM says...

Would you prefer a seventy-somthing Thai Ladyboy who is a vegetarian who rides a bike,
Would you prefer a seventy-somthing Thai Ladyboy who is a vegetarian who rides a bike, BURIRAM
  • Score: 43

10:36am Sun 3 Aug 14

maxiboy_ says...

Considering this country is a white Anglo Saxon nation I see no reason to argue this.
Considering this country is a white Anglo Saxon nation I see no reason to argue this. maxiboy_
  • Score: 39

10:53am Sun 3 Aug 14

Phani Tikkala says...

Oh the irony. What next, Warren Morgan to complain about Tories being fat?
Oh the irony. What next, Warren Morgan to complain about Tories being fat? Phani Tikkala
  • Score: 46

11:22am Sun 3 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

BURIRAM wrote:
Would you prefer a seventy-somthing Thai Ladyboy who is a vegetarian who rides a bike,
Ooooooh..... just what I'm looking for - have you got his number?!!!
[quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Would you prefer a seventy-somthing Thai Ladyboy who is a vegetarian who rides a bike,[/p][/quote]Ooooooh..... just what I'm looking for - have you got his number?!!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -3

11:26am Sun 3 Aug 14

straightasadye says...

Not the Conservatives fault if the three Labour candidates mentioned are the best Labour can muster. Enter the tranfer market Warren before the window of opportunity closes.
Not the Conservatives fault if the three Labour candidates mentioned are the best Labour can muster. Enter the tranfer market Warren before the window of opportunity closes. straightasadye
  • Score: 17

11:38am Sun 3 Aug 14

Number Six says...

Oh, the irony! It's a good job Mr Morgan is good at cheap politics. Otherwise what would he be good at?
Oh, the irony! It's a good job Mr Morgan is good at cheap politics. Otherwise what would he be good at? Number Six
  • Score: 22

12:07pm Sun 3 Aug 14

peebee9 says...

Maybe they were the 3 best qualified persons for the position.
Maybe they were the 3 best qualified persons for the position. peebee9
  • Score: 17

12:24pm Sun 3 Aug 14

stevo!! says...

Once again, it's perfectly fine to be racist towards whites and sexist towards males.

I'm sure he'll telll us how many black women have led the Labour party, because I'm damned if I know of one. Oddly enough, the Tories were once led by a female.....

Maybe the Tories value merit rather than race or gender? If you fill quotas, you ignore talent.
Once again, it's perfectly fine to be racist towards whites and sexist towards males. I'm sure he'll telll us how many black women have led the Labour party, because I'm damned if I know of one. Oddly enough, the Tories were once led by a female..... Maybe the Tories value merit rather than race or gender? If you fill quotas, you ignore talent. stevo!!
  • Score: 28

12:33pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Bob_The_Ferret says...

What?! Are labour worried that their candidates selected on diversity rather than merit aren't going to be a match for the white, 50+, male Tories? I bet they will be even more scared of the UKIP candidates!
What?! Are labour worried that their candidates selected on diversity rather than merit aren't going to be a match for the white, 50+, male Tories? I bet they will be even more scared of the UKIP candidates! Bob_The_Ferret
  • Score: 20

12:40pm Sun 3 Aug 14

ourcoalition says...

maxiboy_ wrote:
Considering this country is a white Anglo Saxon nation I see no reason to argue this.
Which it isn't and never has been.

The clue is in the names Angles and Saxons - and trace it back further and they also originated in the south-east of Europe. And to go one step further, they came from Africa.

Lets adopt the title "citizens of the world" and get away from all this nationalism, which along with religion is one of the two biggest sources of war through the centuries.
[quote][p][bold]maxiboy_[/bold] wrote: Considering this country is a white Anglo Saxon nation I see no reason to argue this.[/p][/quote]Which it isn't and never has been. The clue is in the names Angles and Saxons - and trace it back further and they also originated in the south-east of Europe. And to go one step further, they came from Africa. Lets adopt the title "citizens of the world" and get away from all this nationalism, which along with religion is one of the two biggest sources of war through the centuries. ourcoalition
  • Score: -24

1:20pm Sun 3 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
BURIRAM wrote:
Would you prefer a seventy-somthing Thai Ladyboy who is a vegetarian who rides a bike,
Ooooooh..... just what I'm looking for - have you got his number?!!!
Well I thought it was funny - what a miserable lot those 7 who gave me a thumbs down must be!!
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BURIRAM[/bold] wrote: Would you prefer a seventy-somthing Thai Ladyboy who is a vegetarian who rides a bike,[/p][/quote]Ooooooh..... just what I'm looking for - have you got his number?!!![/p][/quote]Well I thought it was funny - what a miserable lot those 7 who gave me a thumbs down must be!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 11

1:35pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

Well I'm a white fifty-plus male so I'm slightly irritated at the ageist and racist sneering, but I'll get over it. Also I'm a tribal Labour voter so I suppose I'm a 'good' white fifty-plus male! However as Mr Morgan has made an issue of it, maybe I should vote for someone who is the same gender, age, race and sexual orientation as me? Is it really that important?
Well I'm a white fifty-plus male so I'm slightly irritated at the ageist and racist sneering, but I'll get over it. Also I'm a tribal Labour voter so I suppose I'm a 'good' white fifty-plus male! However as Mr Morgan has made an issue of it, maybe I should vote for someone who is the same gender, age, race and sexual orientation as me? Is it really that important? Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
  • Score: 15

1:39pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

Bob_The_Ferret wrote:
What?! Are labour worried that their candidates selected on diversity rather than merit aren't going to be a match for the white, 50+, male Tories? I bet they will be even more scared of the UKIP candidates!
It's a good point. In Brighton Pavilion at the last election I 'had' to vote for an insipid parachuted-in Londoner, (picked by a racist selection procedure), who was chosen simply because they ticked a few boxes.
[quote][p][bold]Bob_The_Ferret[/bold] wrote: What?! Are labour worried that their candidates selected on diversity rather than merit aren't going to be a match for the white, 50+, male Tories? I bet they will be even more scared of the UKIP candidates![/p][/quote]It's a good point. In Brighton Pavilion at the last election I 'had' to vote for an insipid parachuted-in Londoner, (picked by a racist selection procedure), who was chosen simply because they ticked a few boxes. Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
  • Score: 11

1:41pm Sun 3 Aug 14

stir up says...

Can the remarks be seen as possible racist perhaps and should the people mentioned take him to task
Can the remarks be seen as possible racist perhaps and should the people mentioned take him to task stir up
  • Score: 19

1:42pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Nosfaratu says...

ourcoalition wrote:
maxiboy_ wrote:
Considering this country is a white Anglo Saxon nation I see no reason to argue this.
Which it isn't and never has been.

The clue is in the names Angles and Saxons - and trace it back further and they also originated in the south-east of Europe. And to go one step further, they came from Africa.

Lets adopt the title "citizens of the world" and get away from all this nationalism, which along with religion is one of the two biggest sources of war through the centuries.
I am an Alien, would I be able to stand for election ?

Obviously 'ourcoalition' has never been to Brixton or Leicester, Bradford or Leeds, does he not know that there are at least 7000 Coptic Christians in Brighton alone. Its a bit like 'Meet the Ancestors'.

Personally I would prefer to vote for the 'Frak in my Garden' party, but someone needs to form it.
[quote][p][bold]ourcoalition[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maxiboy_[/bold] wrote: Considering this country is a white Anglo Saxon nation I see no reason to argue this.[/p][/quote]Which it isn't and never has been. The clue is in the names Angles and Saxons - and trace it back further and they also originated in the south-east of Europe. And to go one step further, they came from Africa. Lets adopt the title "citizens of the world" and get away from all this nationalism, which along with religion is one of the two biggest sources of war through the centuries.[/p][/quote]I am an Alien, would I be able to stand for election ? Obviously 'ourcoalition' has never been to Brixton or Leicester, Bradford or Leeds, does he not know that there are at least 7000 Coptic Christians in Brighton alone. Its a bit like 'Meet the Ancestors'. Personally I would prefer to vote for the 'Frak in my Garden' party, but someone needs to form it. Nosfaratu
  • Score: -2

1:48pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Nosfaratu says...

Never mind, 'Warren Morgan' is a bit on the 'Cardiac Arrest' size, probably needs to take it a bit easy nowdays. His mum still needs to do his tie up.
Never mind, 'Warren Morgan' is a bit on the 'Cardiac Arrest' size, probably needs to take it a bit easy nowdays. His mum still needs to do his tie up. Nosfaratu
  • Score: 13

2:20pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Alison Smith says...

Warren Morgan does make ridiculous comments. Is he worried about the result?
Warren Morgan does make ridiculous comments. Is he worried about the result? Alison Smith
  • Score: 11

2:30pm Sun 3 Aug 14

dingdong2 says...

Just shows how desperate the Labour party currently are if they can't find anything policy related to attack the tories on and have to stoop to something as ridiculous and offensive as this.

Frankly there are more white 50 something people in Brighton and Hove than any other demographic so not sure what they are complaining about.
Just shows how desperate the Labour party currently are if they can't find anything policy related to attack the tories on and have to stoop to something as ridiculous and offensive as this. Frankly there are more white 50 something people in Brighton and Hove than any other demographic so not sure what they are complaining about. dingdong2
  • Score: 21

4:00pm Sun 3 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

Notice that Warren never discusses Labour Policies.

Cox made a good point about class. I am not a fan of the simplistic class descriptions bandied about, but ALL political parties struggle to engage people across the social spectrum.
Notice that Warren never discusses Labour Policies. Cox made a good point about class. I am not a fan of the simplistic class descriptions bandied about, but ALL political parties struggle to engage people across the social spectrum. HJarrs
  • Score: 4

4:15pm Sun 3 Aug 14

rayellerton says...

I would rather a candidate with life and business experience than young people with no work/business experience any day. Labour like to put up candidates based on Union/Academic/Polit
ical research parameters who can be ideologically moulded to their preferences. I like candidates who want the best for their country not who are best for their sponsors....
I would rather a candidate with life and business experience than young people with no work/business experience any day. Labour like to put up candidates based on Union/Academic/Polit ical research parameters who can be ideologically moulded to their preferences. I like candidates who want the best for their country not who are best for their sponsors.... rayellerton
  • Score: 16

5:05pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Bill in Hanover says...

Reporter1 wrote:
It does not matter what gender, age or any persuasion they are. Isn't that what Brighton is about/
Not if you represent Labour, you have to fit into the correct gender and racial profile to be selected, whether or not you are the right person with the right qualifications is irrelevant
[quote][p][bold]Reporter1[/bold] wrote: It does not matter what gender, age or any persuasion they are. Isn't that what Brighton is about/[/p][/quote]Not if you represent Labour, you have to fit into the correct gender and racial profile to be selected, whether or not you are the right person with the right qualifications is irrelevant Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 8

5:13pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Rostrum says...

Also does he mean the "“white, fifty-something males" who have been fighting hard to sort out the criminal financial mess left by Labour ?

The saying "It's the economy, stupid" seems not to have sunk in does it..
Also does he mean the "“white, fifty-something males" who have been fighting hard to sort out the criminal financial mess left by Labour ? The saying "It's the economy, stupid" seems not to have sunk in does it.. Rostrum
  • Score: 7

5:35pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Nobleox says...

Doesn't matter who Labour put forward as candidates because history shows all Labour governments leave the country bankrupt regardless of who sits on the front bench.
Doesn't matter who Labour put forward as candidates because history shows all Labour governments leave the country bankrupt regardless of who sits on the front bench. Nobleox
  • Score: 15

6:14pm Sun 3 Aug 14

ourcoalition says...

Rostrum wrote:
Also does he mean the "“white, fifty-something males" who have been fighting hard to sort out the criminal financial mess left by Labour ?

The saying "It's the economy, stupid" seems not to have sunk in does it..
Wrong word - substitute "Bankers" instead of Labour and you have it right.

Or has everyone in the country swallowed the fairy story of Cameron and Clegg?
[quote][p][bold]Rostrum[/bold] wrote: Also does he mean the "“white, fifty-something males" who have been fighting hard to sort out the criminal financial mess left by Labour ? The saying "It's the economy, stupid" seems not to have sunk in does it..[/p][/quote]Wrong word - substitute "Bankers" instead of Labour and you have it right. Or has everyone in the country swallowed the fairy story of Cameron and Clegg? ourcoalition
  • Score: -9

6:19pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Zeta Function says...

Gay Tories were in the House of Commons long before socialists and Labour gays.

But the Gay Tory man is unconcerned when it comes to the political exclusion of women and is happy for class to organise society and divide people.
Gay Tories were in the House of Commons long before socialists and Labour gays. But the Gay Tory man is unconcerned when it comes to the political exclusion of women and is happy for class to organise society and divide people. Zeta Function
  • Score: -4

6:54pm Sun 3 Aug 14

WooahWooah says...

Mr Morgan, I'm far more concerned that the candidates represent my views on society than I am about whether their personal characteristics match up to mine. And as I'm a a left-leaning, 60 something straight white male, you should be glad of that. No Conservative has ever matched my expectations and I don't vote for people because they look like me.
Mr Morgan, I'm far more concerned that the candidates represent my views on society than I am about whether their personal characteristics match up to mine. And as I'm a a left-leaning, 60 something straight white male, you should be glad of that. No Conservative has ever matched my expectations and I don't vote for people because they look like me. WooahWooah
  • Score: 4

7:03pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Rostrum says...

ourcoalition wrote:
Rostrum wrote:
Also does he mean the "“white, fifty-something males" who have been fighting hard to sort out the criminal financial mess left by Labour ?

The saying "It's the economy, stupid" seems not to have sunk in does it..
Wrong word - substitute "Bankers" instead of Labour and you have it right.

Or has everyone in the country swallowed the fairy story of Cameron and Clegg?
The Banks do have a case to answer but they were not the Government.

Banks did not increase the Government debt year-on-year knowing it was the wrong thing to do.

Labour left the public finances in such a state I still do not understand why they were not arrested for such a vase fraud and misuse of public funds.

You cannot trust Labour with public money.

What's the saying "Socialism: A great idea until you run out of other people's money"
[quote][p][bold]ourcoalition[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rostrum[/bold] wrote: Also does he mean the "“white, fifty-something males" who have been fighting hard to sort out the criminal financial mess left by Labour ? The saying "It's the economy, stupid" seems not to have sunk in does it..[/p][/quote]Wrong word - substitute "Bankers" instead of Labour and you have it right. Or has everyone in the country swallowed the fairy story of Cameron and Clegg?[/p][/quote]The Banks do have a case to answer but they were not the Government. Banks did not increase the Government debt year-on-year knowing it was the wrong thing to do. Labour left the public finances in such a state I still do not understand why they were not arrested for such a vase fraud and misuse of public funds. You cannot trust Labour with public money. What's the saying "Socialism: A great idea until you run out of other people's money" Rostrum
  • Score: 15

8:05pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Sussex jim says...

As Citizen Smith said- "Someone else will pay on the Glorious day."
The Labour Party should be dead and buried.
As Citizen Smith said- "Someone else will pay on the Glorious day." The Labour Party should be dead and buried. Sussex jim
  • Score: 5

8:32pm Sun 3 Aug 14

rolivan says...

Normally Warren Morgan would be on here making some sort of comment I guess by his absence he realises he has well and truly put his foot in it.
Normally Warren Morgan would be on here making some sort of comment I guess by his absence he realises he has well and truly put his foot in it. rolivan
  • Score: 5

9:00pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Warren Morgan says...

I'm happy to come on here under my own name and not a pseudonym like the rest of you and totally stand by my comments. There is a reason the Tory benches are predominantly "male, pale and stale", that Cameron's Cabinet has a tiny proportion of women in it, and the Conservatives have a real problem attracting support amongst women voters, younger people and minority ethnic communities. If they want to perpetuate that by choosing more candidates who don't reflect those groups then that's fine. Are members of those groups "less able"? No, they are just less likely to join the Tories. And leaving the childish abuse aside, for the record I'm not over 50, and I'm not running for Parliament - we have three excellent candidates who are.
I'm happy to come on here under my own name and not a pseudonym like the rest of you and totally stand by my comments. There is a reason the Tory benches are predominantly "male, pale and stale", that Cameron's Cabinet has a tiny proportion of women in it, and the Conservatives have a real problem attracting support amongst women voters, younger people and minority ethnic communities. If they want to perpetuate that by choosing more candidates who don't reflect those groups then that's fine. Are members of those groups "less able"? No, they are just less likely to join the Tories. And leaving the childish abuse aside, for the record I'm not over 50, and I'm not running for Parliament - we have three excellent candidates who are. Warren Morgan
  • Score: -12

9:34pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Nobleox says...

Warren Morgan wrote:
I'm happy to come on here under my own name and not a pseudonym like the rest of you and totally stand by my comments. There is a reason the Tory benches are predominantly "male, pale and stale", that Cameron's Cabinet has a tiny proportion of women in it, and the Conservatives have a real problem attracting support amongst women voters, younger people and minority ethnic communities. If they want to perpetuate that by choosing more candidates who don't reflect those groups then that's fine. Are members of those groups "less able"? No, they are just less likely to join the Tories. And leaving the childish abuse aside, for the record I'm not over 50, and I'm not running for Parliament - we have three excellent candidates who are.
Just remember Warren who started the "sledging".
[quote][p][bold]Warren Morgan[/bold] wrote: I'm happy to come on here under my own name and not a pseudonym like the rest of you and totally stand by my comments. There is a reason the Tory benches are predominantly "male, pale and stale", that Cameron's Cabinet has a tiny proportion of women in it, and the Conservatives have a real problem attracting support amongst women voters, younger people and minority ethnic communities. If they want to perpetuate that by choosing more candidates who don't reflect those groups then that's fine. Are members of those groups "less able"? No, they are just less likely to join the Tories. And leaving the childish abuse aside, for the record I'm not over 50, and I'm not running for Parliament - we have three excellent candidates who are.[/p][/quote]Just remember Warren who started the "sledging". Nobleox
  • Score: 12

10:48pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Reporter1 says...

Warren Morgan wrote:
I'm happy to come on here under my own name and not a pseudonym like the rest of you and totally stand by my comments. There is a reason the Tory benches are predominantly "male, pale and stale", that Cameron's Cabinet has a tiny proportion of women in it, and the Conservatives have a real problem attracting support amongst women voters, younger people and minority ethnic communities. If they want to perpetuate that by choosing more candidates who don't reflect those groups then that's fine. Are members of those groups "less able"? No, they are just less likely to join the Tories. And leaving the childish abuse aside, for the record I'm not over 50, and I'm not running for Parliament - we have three excellent candidates who are.
Sexist, ageist and racist comments Warren. Nothing wrong with being straight, white and fifty-something.
[quote][p][bold]Warren Morgan[/bold] wrote: I'm happy to come on here under my own name and not a pseudonym like the rest of you and totally stand by my comments. There is a reason the Tory benches are predominantly "male, pale and stale", that Cameron's Cabinet has a tiny proportion of women in it, and the Conservatives have a real problem attracting support amongst women voters, younger people and minority ethnic communities. If they want to perpetuate that by choosing more candidates who don't reflect those groups then that's fine. Are members of those groups "less able"? No, they are just less likely to join the Tories. And leaving the childish abuse aside, for the record I'm not over 50, and I'm not running for Parliament - we have three excellent candidates who are.[/p][/quote]Sexist, ageist and racist comments Warren. Nothing wrong with being straight, white and fifty-something. Reporter1
  • Score: 11

11:00pm Sun 3 Aug 14

dingdong2 says...

Frankly the most qualified person should get a job regardless of their sex, age, ethnicity or sexual preferences. The sooner all parties realise that the better. Last time I checked positive discrimination was still illegal in this country.
Frankly the most qualified person should get a job regardless of their sex, age, ethnicity or sexual preferences. The sooner all parties realise that the better. Last time I checked positive discrimination was still illegal in this country. dingdong2
  • Score: 10

1:37am Mon 4 Aug 14

Poem58 says...

Correct me if I'm wrong - but is Clarence Mitchell the same slick PR man who has been attempting to put a good spin on some of the parents of Madeleine Mccann's more dubious activities over the last few years?

The one who a Portuguese police officer said "lies with as many teeth as he has in his head"...?
Correct me if I'm wrong - but is Clarence Mitchell the same slick PR man who has been attempting to put a good spin on some of the parents of Madeleine Mccann's more dubious activities over the last few years? The one who a Portuguese police officer said "lies with as many teeth as he has in his head"...? Poem58
  • Score: 4

6:09am Mon 4 Aug 14

Brighton90 says...

I have to say as a young woman I always find comments like this laughable. Yes the conservatives may have candidates who fit that profile but at least they allowed women to challenge them for candidacy. The whole concept of having an all women shortlist just baffles me. Who decides that these women are not good enough to run against men and beat them for selection? I can hazard a guess at it not being other women...
I have to say as a young woman I always find comments like this laughable. Yes the conservatives may have candidates who fit that profile but at least they allowed women to challenge them for candidacy. The whole concept of having an all women shortlist just baffles me. Who decides that these women are not good enough to run against men and beat them for selection? I can hazard a guess at it not being other women... Brighton90
  • Score: 7

8:14am Mon 4 Aug 14

Anna Phylactic says...

Outrageous racism, sexism and heterophobia from Labour.

This horrible man should be arrested and charged.
Outrageous racism, sexism and heterophobia from Labour. This horrible man should be arrested and charged. Anna Phylactic
  • Score: 10

10:19am Mon 4 Aug 14

stevo!! says...

Warren Morgan wrote:
I'm happy to come on here under my own name and not a pseudonym like the rest of you and totally stand by my comments. There is a reason the Tory benches are predominantly "male, pale and stale", that Cameron's Cabinet has a tiny proportion of women in it, and the Conservatives have a real problem attracting support amongst women voters, younger people and minority ethnic communities. If they want to perpetuate that by choosing more candidates who don't reflect those groups then that's fine. Are members of those groups "less able"? No, they are just less likely to join the Tories. And leaving the childish abuse aside, for the record I'm not over 50, and I'm not running for Parliament - we have three excellent candidates who are.
You come across as being a silly little man, and here's why:

1) You seem to think that those of ethnic minorities will only vote for 'their own kind'. Get this - they don't. Some of them are able to spot talent in those of other races. I find it insulting of you to suggest that the ethnic minorities don't have the intelligence to base their voting preferences on things other than the skin-tone of the candidate.

2) The same goes for women and younger people, who you also insulted.

3) If a party is 'stale' then the voters will have the chance to elect someone else.

4) Having a vagina should never be a job requirement, not should a lack of one prevent anyone from progressing in life.

5) The same goes for being a vagina.

6) You will never explain how having a darker skin-tone makes one a better candidate, despite your claim that it does.



You're welcome.
[quote][p][bold]Warren Morgan[/bold] wrote: I'm happy to come on here under my own name and not a pseudonym like the rest of you and totally stand by my comments. There is a reason the Tory benches are predominantly "male, pale and stale", that Cameron's Cabinet has a tiny proportion of women in it, and the Conservatives have a real problem attracting support amongst women voters, younger people and minority ethnic communities. If they want to perpetuate that by choosing more candidates who don't reflect those groups then that's fine. Are members of those groups "less able"? No, they are just less likely to join the Tories. And leaving the childish abuse aside, for the record I'm not over 50, and I'm not running for Parliament - we have three excellent candidates who are.[/p][/quote]You come across as being a silly little man, and here's why: 1) You seem to think that those of ethnic minorities will only vote for 'their own kind'. Get this - they don't. Some of them are able to spot talent in those of other races. I find it insulting of you to suggest that the ethnic minorities don't have the intelligence to base their voting preferences on things other than the skin-tone of the candidate. 2) The same goes for women and younger people, who you also insulted. 3) If a party is 'stale' then the voters will have the chance to elect someone else. 4) Having a vagina should never be a job requirement, not should a lack of one prevent anyone from progressing in life. 5) The same goes for being a vagina. 6) You will never explain how having a darker skin-tone makes one a better candidate, despite your claim that it does. You're welcome. stevo!!
  • Score: -3

11:47am Mon 4 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

Warren Morgan wrote:
I'm happy to come on here under my own name and not a pseudonym like the rest of you and totally stand by my comments. There is a reason the Tory benches are predominantly "male, pale and stale", that Cameron's Cabinet has a tiny proportion of women in it, and the Conservatives have a real problem attracting support amongst women voters, younger people and minority ethnic communities. If they want to perpetuate that by choosing more candidates who don't reflect those groups then that's fine. Are members of those groups "less able"? No, they are just less likely to join the Tories. And leaving the childish abuse aside, for the record I'm not over 50, and I'm not running for Parliament - we have three excellent candidates who are.
I don't even think pale, male and stale gets to the root of the issue for the heart of power in the Conservative party. It is ruled and run by and for a small group of incredibly wealthy individuals from very privileged backgrounds. It is a return to the ruling class.

The Labour Party has far wider representation, but did little to make fundamental change when in power, instead becoming a pale blue managerialist party. I am yet to see a change under Milliband.
[quote][p][bold]Warren Morgan[/bold] wrote: I'm happy to come on here under my own name and not a pseudonym like the rest of you and totally stand by my comments. There is a reason the Tory benches are predominantly "male, pale and stale", that Cameron's Cabinet has a tiny proportion of women in it, and the Conservatives have a real problem attracting support amongst women voters, younger people and minority ethnic communities. If they want to perpetuate that by choosing more candidates who don't reflect those groups then that's fine. Are members of those groups "less able"? No, they are just less likely to join the Tories. And leaving the childish abuse aside, for the record I'm not over 50, and I'm not running for Parliament - we have three excellent candidates who are.[/p][/quote]I don't even think pale, male and stale gets to the root of the issue for the heart of power in the Conservative party. It is ruled and run by and for a small group of incredibly wealthy individuals from very privileged backgrounds. It is a return to the ruling class. The Labour Party has far wider representation, but did little to make fundamental change when in power, instead becoming a pale blue managerialist party. I am yet to see a change under Milliband. HJarrs
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