New road layout ‘too narrow for most cars’

Pictured (L to R) at the new road width restriction layout are Mel White, Angus Willson and Paul Cooper

Another view of the road

Is the road wide enough?

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A road restriction which took nearly two years to put in place is causing chaos for drivers and cyclists.

Willbury Villas was reopened with a new width restriction on August 1 by Brighton and Hove City Council.

The new measures have been put in place to stop vehicles wider than two metres from entering the area after large lorries damaged the Hove bridge.

But within ten minutes of opening two cars had already hit it and The Argus witnessed a mini doing a U-turn to avoid negotiating the junction.

Melanie White, business manager of the Dock cafe on neighbouring Lorna Road, said: “Within ten minutes of opening two people hit it, you can see all the black tyre marks on the side.

“It’s stopping the wrong kind of people. It isn’t stopping delivery drivers and white van men who take it at 30 or 40 miles an hour straight through.

“The restriction was supposed to make things better for the cafe but it really hasn’t.”

Two of the UK’s most popular cars, the Nissan Qashqai and the BMW 3 series, are both wider than two metres so would not fit through the restriction.

But a transit van, at 1.7m wide, is still able to use the road.

Resident Andy Wooler, 58, said: “I understand there’s a weight limit on the bridge but this is bad for anyone who drives anything bigger than a mini.

“The design is just ridiculous, this council can’t spend money quick enough, how much are we spending on this?”

The road was previously forced to close when the bridge was damaged by heavy goods vehicles, up to six times bigger than the bridge’s three tonne vehicle capacity limit.

A spokesman for Brighton and Hove City Council said: “It’s tight but easily negotiated by cars with care at low speed.

“There’s a weight limit on this bridge – HGVs are not allowed on it.

“The narrowing will help ensure the weight limit is obeyed, that HGVs stay off the bridge, preventing it getting damaged, closing again and causing much worse long-term inconvenience for all drivers.”

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11:41am Fri 8 Aug 14

s&k says...

Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.
Glad to see British comedy is alive and well. s&k
  • Score: 69

12:07pm Fri 8 Aug 14

mackeson says...

Typical!! "Chelsea tractor" drivers don't know the width of their own vehicles!!
Typical!! "Chelsea tractor" drivers don't know the width of their own vehicles!! mackeson
  • Score: 7

12:08pm Fri 8 Aug 14

charlie smirke says...

s&k wrote:
Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.
Yes, it's called the green party.
[quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.[/p][/quote]Yes, it's called the green party. charlie smirke
  • Score: 105

12:40pm Fri 8 Aug 14

comanche762 says...

ha ha ha ha well thats another fine mess you've gotten us into
muppets
ha ha ha ha well thats another fine mess you've gotten us into muppets comanche762
  • Score: 71

12:41pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

s&k wrote:
Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.
Brilliant
[quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.[/p][/quote]Brilliant Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 37

1:03pm Fri 8 Aug 14

RootyRoo says...

Yet another £&@£ up the council has wasted the taxpayers of B & H's money on.
Yet another £&@£ up the council has wasted the taxpayers of B & H's money on. RootyRoo
  • Score: 61

1:04pm Fri 8 Aug 14

batfink12 says...

No wonder its narrow - there are 3 people standing in the way
No wonder its narrow - there are 3 people standing in the way batfink12
  • Score: 25

1:25pm Fri 8 Aug 14

RAS Putin says...

"Two of the UK’s most popular cars, the Nissan Qashqai and the BMW 3 series, are both wider than two metres so would not fit through the restriction."

A BMW 3 series is 1.811 metres wide.
The Nissan Qashqai, 1.785.

If you can't negotiate your vehicle within those tolerances, you shoudn't be on the road
"Two of the UK’s most popular cars, the Nissan Qashqai and the BMW 3 series, are both wider than two metres so would not fit through the restriction." A BMW 3 series is 1.811 metres wide. The Nissan Qashqai, 1.785. If you can't negotiate your vehicle within those tolerances, you shoudn't be on the road RAS Putin
  • Score: 45

1:26pm Fri 8 Aug 14

RAS Putin says...

Meh. *shouldn't
Meh. *shouldn't RAS Putin
  • Score: 4

1:33pm Fri 8 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

RootyRoo wrote:
Yet another £&@£ up the council has wasted the taxpayers of B & H's money on.
Can't be that much chaos there if these three muppets have time to stand in the middle of this road - why on earth would you ring the Argus because two cars alledegdly hit this restriction?! Get a life ffs! It's strange that a transit can get through but a mini can't - that says something about the driver of the mini rather than the junction!
[quote][p][bold]RootyRoo[/bold] wrote: Yet another £&@£ up the council has wasted the taxpayers of B & H's money on.[/p][/quote]Can't be that much chaos there if these three muppets have time to stand in the middle of this road - why on earth would you ring the Argus because two cars alledegdly hit this restriction?! Get a life ffs! It's strange that a transit can get through but a mini can't - that says something about the driver of the mini rather than the junction! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 11

1:34pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Mark63 says...

green muppets strike again - wasting OUR money yet again!
green muppets strike again - wasting OUR money yet again! Mark63
  • Score: 35

1:36pm Fri 8 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

... allegedly....
... allegedly.... brighton bluenose
  • Score: -30

1:59pm Fri 8 Aug 14

NickBrt says...

Useless greens.
Useless greens. NickBrt
  • Score: 24

2:08pm Fri 8 Aug 14

sglenister says...

Maybe a height restriction would have been a better idea? Local authorities not really known for 'better' ideas though.
Maybe a height restriction would have been a better idea? Local authorities not really known for 'better' ideas though. sglenister
  • Score: 28

2:14pm Fri 8 Aug 14

s&k says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
s&k wrote: Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.
Brilliant
Thanks! I'm striving to be the wittiest poster on The Argus' comments threads.
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.[/p][/quote]Brilliant[/p][/quote]Thanks! I'm striving to be the wittiest poster on The Argus' comments threads. s&k
  • Score: 2

2:45pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Stig Thundercock says...

RAS Putin wrote:
"Two of the UK’s most popular cars, the Nissan Qashqai and the BMW 3 series, are both wider than two metres so would not fit through the restriction."

A BMW 3 series is 1.811 metres wide.
The Nissan Qashqai, 1.785.

If you can't negotiate your vehicle within those tolerances, you shoudn't be on the road
Exactly.

As a local resident who goes through it three or four times a day and drives something larger than a mini, I can get through it with no problem.

What the restrictions have done is reduce the traffic on what is a rat run quite significantly, particularly the heavy vehicles who always used to ignore the weight restriction sign.
[quote][p][bold]RAS Putin[/bold] wrote: "Two of the UK’s most popular cars, the Nissan Qashqai and the BMW 3 series, are both wider than two metres so would not fit through the restriction." A BMW 3 series is 1.811 metres wide. The Nissan Qashqai, 1.785. If you can't negotiate your vehicle within those tolerances, you shoudn't be on the road[/p][/quote]Exactly. As a local resident who goes through it three or four times a day and drives something larger than a mini, I can get through it with no problem. What the restrictions have done is reduce the traffic on what is a rat run quite significantly, particularly the heavy vehicles who always used to ignore the weight restriction sign. Stig Thundercock
  • Score: 37

3:27pm Fri 8 Aug 14

theargusissoinformative says...

RootyRoo wrote:
Yet another £&@£ up the council has wasted the taxpayers of B & H's money on.
Albert Bridge over the Thames has exactly the same width restriction, as do a lot of places round London.
[quote][p][bold]RootyRoo[/bold] wrote: Yet another £&@£ up the council has wasted the taxpayers of B & H's money on.[/p][/quote]Albert Bridge over the Thames has exactly the same width restriction, as do a lot of places round London. theargusissoinformative
  • Score: -58

3:32pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Levent says...

Why not just have cctv and fine hgv's going over it rather than taking two years to build this thing?
Why not just have cctv and fine hgv's going over it rather than taking two years to build this thing? Levent
  • Score: 6

3:58pm Fri 8 Aug 14

road_rager says...

The Nissan Qashqai has to be one of the ugliest cars ever
The Nissan Qashqai has to be one of the ugliest cars ever road_rager
  • Score: 18

4:21pm Fri 8 Aug 14

yatman says...

road_rager wrote:
The Nissan Qashqai has to be one of the ugliest cars ever
Chav tastic.
[quote][p][bold]road_rager[/bold] wrote: The Nissan Qashqai has to be one of the ugliest cars ever[/p][/quote]Chav tastic. yatman
  • Score: 24

4:24pm Fri 8 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

s&k wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
s&k wrote: Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.
Brilliant
Thanks! I'm striving to be the wittiest poster on The Argus' comments threads.
As my old school reports used to say - MUST TRY HARDER!!
[quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.[/p][/quote]Brilliant[/p][/quote]Thanks! I'm striving to be the wittiest poster on The Argus' comments threads.[/p][/quote]As my old school reports used to say - MUST TRY HARDER!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

4:24pm Fri 8 Aug 14

RootyRoo says...

theargusissoinformat
ive
wrote:
RootyRoo wrote:
Yet another £&@£ up the council has wasted the taxpayers of B & H's money on.
Albert Bridge over the Thames has exactly the same width restriction, as do a lot of places round London.
I still think it's a waste of our money though.
[quote][p][bold]theargusissoinformat ive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RootyRoo[/bold] wrote: Yet another £&@£ up the council has wasted the taxpayers of B & H's money on.[/p][/quote]Albert Bridge over the Thames has exactly the same width restriction, as do a lot of places round London.[/p][/quote]I still think it's a waste of our money though. RootyRoo
  • Score: 11

4:26pm Fri 8 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Btw how on earth is it causing chaos for cyclists?
You couldn't make half of this rubbish up - but of course the Argus has made it up!!
Btw how on earth is it causing chaos for cyclists? You couldn't make half of this rubbish up - but of course the Argus has made it up!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 17

4:28pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Stig Thundercock says...

RootyRoo wrote:
theargusissoinformat

ive
wrote:
RootyRoo wrote:
Yet another £&@£ up the council has wasted the taxpayers of B & H's money on.
Albert Bridge over the Thames has exactly the same width restriction, as do a lot of places round London.
I still think it's a waste of our money though.
I don't think it's waste, and this change affects me far more than others.
[quote][p][bold]RootyRoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]theargusissoinformat ive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RootyRoo[/bold] wrote: Yet another £&@£ up the council has wasted the taxpayers of B & H's money on.[/p][/quote]Albert Bridge over the Thames has exactly the same width restriction, as do a lot of places round London.[/p][/quote]I still think it's a waste of our money though.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's waste, and this change affects me far more than others. Stig Thundercock
  • Score: 7

5:30pm Fri 8 Aug 14

lindaf says...

In the video it looks like they are driving up onto the pavement...learn to drive!!!
In the video it looks like they are driving up onto the pavement...learn to drive!!! lindaf
  • Score: 7

7:51pm Fri 8 Aug 14

stevo!! says...

Causing problems for bicycles?

How, exactly?
Causing problems for bicycles? How, exactly? stevo!!
  • Score: -36

7:57pm Fri 8 Aug 14

tekniko says...

One word, already said - TYPICAL!
One word, already said - TYPICAL! tekniko
  • Score: 7

8:28pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Gribbet says...

As someone else has pointed out, hard to imagine what sort of chaos this would cause to cyclists.

Also, why are the people in the photo smiling? I thought he Argus only printed pictures of people looking into the camera with a contrived look of mild disgust on their faces. A look that conveys how they've been deeply wronged and let down by the world.
As someone else has pointed out, hard to imagine what sort of chaos this would cause to cyclists. Also, why are the people in the photo smiling? I thought he Argus only printed pictures of people looking into the camera with a contrived look of mild disgust on their faces. A look that conveys how they've been deeply wronged and let down by the world. Gribbet
  • Score: 21

8:59pm Fri 8 Aug 14

asterixobelix says...

RAS Putin wrote:
"Two of the UK’s most popular cars, the Nissan Qashqai and the BMW 3 series, are both wider than two metres so would not fit through the restriction."

A BMW 3 series is 1.811 metres wide.
The Nissan Qashqai, 1.785.

If you can't negotiate your vehicle within those tolerances, you shoudn't be on the road
Some qashqais are 1785 but other ones are 2120 so would not fit through a 2 metre gap. Again if you check Parkers guide you will see that a bmw 3 series had a width of 2031mm. Again wider than the gap. Please check your facts before you accuse people of being bad drivers.
[quote][p][bold]RAS Putin[/bold] wrote: "Two of the UK’s most popular cars, the Nissan Qashqai and the BMW 3 series, are both wider than two metres so would not fit through the restriction." A BMW 3 series is 1.811 metres wide. The Nissan Qashqai, 1.785. If you can't negotiate your vehicle within those tolerances, you shoudn't be on the road[/p][/quote]Some qashqais are 1785 but other ones are 2120 so would not fit through a 2 metre gap. Again if you check Parkers guide you will see that a bmw 3 series had a width of 2031mm. Again wider than the gap. Please check your facts before you accuse people of being bad drivers. asterixobelix
  • Score: 21

9:24pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Gribbet says...

asterixobelix wrote:
RAS Putin wrote:
"Two of the UK’s most popular cars, the Nissan Qashqai and the BMW 3 series, are both wider than two metres so would not fit through the restriction."

A BMW 3 series is 1.811 metres wide.
The Nissan Qashqai, 1.785.

If you can't negotiate your vehicle within those tolerances, you shoudn't be on the road
Some qashqais are 1785 but other ones are 2120 so would not fit through a 2 metre gap. Again if you check Parkers guide you will see that a bmw 3 series had a width of 2031mm. Again wider than the gap. Please check your facts before you accuse people of being bad drivers.
ok, too geeky.

back to the Top Gear forum with you
[quote][p][bold]asterixobelix[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RAS Putin[/bold] wrote: "Two of the UK’s most popular cars, the Nissan Qashqai and the BMW 3 series, are both wider than two metres so would not fit through the restriction." A BMW 3 series is 1.811 metres wide. The Nissan Qashqai, 1.785. If you can't negotiate your vehicle within those tolerances, you shoudn't be on the road[/p][/quote]Some qashqais are 1785 but other ones are 2120 so would not fit through a 2 metre gap. Again if you check Parkers guide you will see that a bmw 3 series had a width of 2031mm. Again wider than the gap. Please check your facts before you accuse people of being bad drivers.[/p][/quote]ok, too geeky. back to the Top Gear forum with you Gribbet
  • Score: 13

10:17pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Mr Popkins Doughnuts says...

More Green madness! How any roads are they going to ruin? Edward Street must be the longest road works in the history of mankind and for what? 2 bikes an hour to go up and down! Then there's the total botch up of the seafront that's also taking months causing loads of pollution, not very green like I must say madam.
More Green madness! How any roads are they going to ruin? Edward Street must be the longest road works in the history of mankind and for what? 2 bikes an hour to go up and down! Then there's the total botch up of the seafront that's also taking months causing loads of pollution, not very green like I must say madam. Mr Popkins Doughnuts
  • Score: 9

10:28pm Fri 8 Aug 14

davenachfan says...

road_rager wrote:
The Nissan Qashqai has to be one of the ugliest cars ever
How can we have a word with a Q without a U?
[quote][p][bold]road_rager[/bold] wrote: The Nissan Qashqai has to be one of the ugliest cars ever[/p][/quote]How can we have a word with a Q without a U? davenachfan
  • Score: 4

10:59pm Fri 8 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Mr Popkins Doughnuts wrote:
More Green madness! How any roads are they going to ruin? Edward Street must be the longest road works in the history of mankind and for what? 2 bikes an hour to go up and down! Then there's the total botch up of the seafront that's also taking months causing loads of pollution, not very green like I must say madam.
Ae youreally such a moron not to unerstand that the bridge was knackered after decades of being used by HGVs and the like - this scheme will protect that bridge so perhaps you can tell us how anything has been ruined?!
[quote][p][bold]Mr Popkins Doughnuts[/bold] wrote: More Green madness! How any roads are they going to ruin? Edward Street must be the longest road works in the history of mankind and for what? 2 bikes an hour to go up and down! Then there's the total botch up of the seafront that's also taking months causing loads of pollution, not very green like I must say madam.[/p][/quote]Ae youreally such a moron not to unerstand that the bridge was knackered after decades of being used by HGVs and the like - this scheme will protect that bridge so perhaps you can tell us how anything has been ruined?! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 6

11:20pm Fri 8 Aug 14

MasonStorm says...

Two years for this monstrosity?!! Would love to know how much has that cost the council tax payers.
Two years for this monstrosity?!! Would love to know how much has that cost the council tax payers. MasonStorm
  • Score: 4

11:32pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Mr Popkins Doughnuts says...

Just ban them from there, don't make the road small enough so only Del Boy can get through, know what I mean ?
Just ban them from there, don't make the road small enough so only Del Boy can get through, know what I mean ? Mr Popkins Doughnuts
  • Score: -3

11:49pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Stig Thundercock says...

MasonStorm wrote:
Two years for this monstrosity?!! Would love to know how much has that cost the council tax payers.
Do some research.

Bridge is owned by Network Rail who took the decision to close it, they were the ones who repaired it - often done at night and when engineering works were scheduled on the line, they were the ones who stipulated that the traffic calming had to be rigorously enforced. The council spent a couple of weeks replacing the pavement that had been dug up and installing the new measures. Opening was delayed due to a street party organised by the owner of The Hub.

As someone who has lived on this street for nearly 20 years I applaud it, it does exactly what it is supposed to do, reduce size and volume of traffic using it and causing structural damage again, but allowing access for local residents. It stops the road from being used as a short cut.

I drive through it everyday and have yet to encounter a problem or hit the kerb, it is designed to go through at walking pace. Those who go too fast or lack spatial awareness or don't know the width of their vehicles are going to cause themselves problems.
[quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: Two years for this monstrosity?!! Would love to know how much has that cost the council tax payers.[/p][/quote]Do some research. Bridge is owned by Network Rail who took the decision to close it, they were the ones who repaired it - often done at night and when engineering works were scheduled on the line, they were the ones who stipulated that the traffic calming had to be rigorously enforced. The council spent a couple of weeks replacing the pavement that had been dug up and installing the new measures. Opening was delayed due to a street party organised by the owner of The Hub. As someone who has lived on this street for nearly 20 years I applaud it, it does exactly what it is supposed to do, reduce size and volume of traffic using it and causing structural damage again, but allowing access for local residents. It stops the road from being used as a short cut. I drive through it everyday and have yet to encounter a problem or hit the kerb, it is designed to go through at walking pace. Those who go too fast or lack spatial awareness or don't know the width of their vehicles are going to cause themselves problems. Stig Thundercock
  • Score: 5

11:57pm Fri 8 Aug 14

FatherTed11 says...

Stig Thundercock wrote:
MasonStorm wrote:
Two years for this monstrosity?!! Would love to know how much has that cost the council tax payers.
Do some research.

Bridge is owned by Network Rail who took the decision to close it, they were the ones who repaired it - often done at night and when engineering works were scheduled on the line, they were the ones who stipulated that the traffic calming had to be rigorously enforced. The council spent a couple of weeks replacing the pavement that had been dug up and installing the new measures. Opening was delayed due to a street party organised by the owner of The Hub.

As someone who has lived on this street for nearly 20 years I applaud it, it does exactly what it is supposed to do, reduce size and volume of traffic using it and causing structural damage again, but allowing access for local residents. It stops the road from being used as a short cut.

I drive through it everyday and have yet to encounter a problem or hit the kerb, it is designed to go through at walking pace. Those who go too fast or lack spatial awareness or don't know the width of their vehicles are going to cause themselves problems.
And why should people be stopped from using your precious road as a 'short cut' ?
[quote][p][bold]Stig Thundercock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: Two years for this monstrosity?!! Would love to know how much has that cost the council tax payers.[/p][/quote]Do some research. Bridge is owned by Network Rail who took the decision to close it, they were the ones who repaired it - often done at night and when engineering works were scheduled on the line, they were the ones who stipulated that the traffic calming had to be rigorously enforced. The council spent a couple of weeks replacing the pavement that had been dug up and installing the new measures. Opening was delayed due to a street party organised by the owner of The Hub. As someone who has lived on this street for nearly 20 years I applaud it, it does exactly what it is supposed to do, reduce size and volume of traffic using it and causing structural damage again, but allowing access for local residents. It stops the road from being used as a short cut. I drive through it everyday and have yet to encounter a problem or hit the kerb, it is designed to go through at walking pace. Those who go too fast or lack spatial awareness or don't know the width of their vehicles are going to cause themselves problems.[/p][/quote]And why should people be stopped from using your precious road as a 'short cut' ? FatherTed11
  • Score: 0

1:06am Sat 9 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

FatherTed11 wrote:
Stig Thundercock wrote:
MasonStorm wrote:
Two years for this monstrosity?!! Would love to know how much has that cost the council tax payers.
Do some research.

Bridge is owned by Network Rail who took the decision to close it, they were the ones who repaired it - often done at night and when engineering works were scheduled on the line, they were the ones who stipulated that the traffic calming had to be rigorously enforced. The council spent a couple of weeks replacing the pavement that had been dug up and installing the new measures. Opening was delayed due to a street party organised by the owner of The Hub.

As someone who has lived on this street for nearly 20 years I applaud it, it does exactly what it is supposed to do, reduce size and volume of traffic using it and causing structural damage again, but allowing access for local residents. It stops the road from being used as a short cut.

I drive through it everyday and have yet to encounter a problem or hit the kerb, it is designed to go through at walking pace. Those who go too fast or lack spatial awareness or don't know the width of their vehicles are going to cause themselves problems.
And why should people be stopped from using your precious road as a 'short cut' ?
Why don't you read the article and a few of the comments to find out rather than just spouting sh!te?!!
[quote][p][bold]FatherTed11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stig Thundercock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: Two years for this monstrosity?!! Would love to know how much has that cost the council tax payers.[/p][/quote]Do some research. Bridge is owned by Network Rail who took the decision to close it, they were the ones who repaired it - often done at night and when engineering works were scheduled on the line, they were the ones who stipulated that the traffic calming had to be rigorously enforced. The council spent a couple of weeks replacing the pavement that had been dug up and installing the new measures. Opening was delayed due to a street party organised by the owner of The Hub. As someone who has lived on this street for nearly 20 years I applaud it, it does exactly what it is supposed to do, reduce size and volume of traffic using it and causing structural damage again, but allowing access for local residents. It stops the road from being used as a short cut. I drive through it everyday and have yet to encounter a problem or hit the kerb, it is designed to go through at walking pace. Those who go too fast or lack spatial awareness or don't know the width of their vehicles are going to cause themselves problems.[/p][/quote]And why should people be stopped from using your precious road as a 'short cut' ?[/p][/quote]Why don't you read the article and a few of the comments to find out rather than just spouting sh!te?!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

1:08am Sat 9 Aug 14

Zeta Function says...

Big Cars are: So previous.
Big Cars are: So previous. Zeta Function
  • Score: -1

2:02am Sat 9 Aug 14

lonegull says...

1 height barrier fitted in half a day for a fraction of the cost would have been more effective and left money to purchase another cycle counter.
1 height barrier fitted in half a day for a fraction of the cost would have been more effective and left money to purchase another cycle counter. lonegull
  • Score: 5

6:45am Sat 9 Aug 14

Nosfaratu says...

Morning everyone ! You are correct in saying a height barrier would have been more effective and much cheaper but how long before some idiot hit it. My worry is the weight of the extra crap on top of a weak bridge.
Morning everyone ! You are correct in saying a height barrier would have been more effective and much cheaper but how long before some idiot hit it. My worry is the weight of the extra crap on top of a weak bridge. Nosfaratu
  • Score: 0

7:13am Sat 9 Aug 14

twonk says...

Most of the HGV's that used this bridge were owned by Lynx Transport but they are no longer in Cambridge Grove. Why not just close the bridge as we all know that the railway never repair bridges as they don't want to eat into shareholder profits.
Most of the HGV's that used this bridge were owned by Lynx Transport but they are no longer in Cambridge Grove. Why not just close the bridge as we all know that the railway never repair bridges as they don't want to eat into shareholder profits. twonk
  • Score: -5

7:33am Sat 9 Aug 14

hoveguyactually says...

Why worry about the cyclists? They use the pavements anyway.
Why worry about the cyclists? They use the pavements anyway. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 12

7:58am Sat 9 Aug 14

Seagull John says...

In a similr vein, i.e. Road related, the greens have this week plastered 20 mph road signs at the entrance to little roads off Carden Avenue where you would really struggle to reach 20mph and a speed related road accident is inconceivable. Utterly pointless and additional unwelcome street furniture.
In a similr vein, i.e. Road related, the greens have this week plastered 20 mph road signs at the entrance to little roads off Carden Avenue where you would really struggle to reach 20mph and a speed related road accident is inconceivable. Utterly pointless and additional unwelcome street furniture. Seagull John
  • Score: 22

9:10am Sat 9 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

twonk wrote:
Most of the HGV's that used this bridge were owned by Lynx Transport but they are no longer in Cambridge Grove. Why not just close the bridge as we all know that the railway never repair bridges as they don't want to eat into shareholder profits.
But they HAVE just repaired it you cretin! !
Your post really shows just how social media can be de-valued when morons are given a voice!
[quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote: Most of the HGV's that used this bridge were owned by Lynx Transport but they are no longer in Cambridge Grove. Why not just close the bridge as we all know that the railway never repair bridges as they don't want to eat into shareholder profits.[/p][/quote]But they HAVE just repaired it you cretin! ! Your post really shows just how social media can be de-valued when morons are given a voice! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -5

9:28am Sat 9 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Nosfaratu wrote:
Morning everyone ! You are correct in saying a height barrier would have been more effective and much cheaper but how long before some idiot hit it. My worry is the weight of the extra crap on top of a weak bridge.
Christ - they're all out today! They've STRENGTHENED the **** bridge you fool!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: Morning everyone ! You are correct in saying a height barrier would have been more effective and much cheaper but how long before some idiot hit it. My worry is the weight of the extra crap on top of a weak bridge.[/p][/quote]Christ - they're all out today! They've STRENGTHENED the **** bridge you fool!!!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -8

9:29am Sat 9 Aug 14

Stig Thundercock says...

FatherTed11 wrote:
Stig Thundercock wrote:
MasonStorm wrote:
Two years for this monstrosity?!! Would love to know how much has that cost the council tax payers.
Do some research.

Bridge is owned by Network Rail who took the decision to close it, they were the ones who repaired it - often done at night and when engineering works were scheduled on the line, they were the ones who stipulated that the traffic calming had to be rigorously enforced. The council spent a couple of weeks replacing the pavement that had been dug up and installing the new measures. Opening was delayed due to a street party organised by the owner of The Hub.

As someone who has lived on this street for nearly 20 years I applaud it, it does exactly what it is supposed to do, reduce size and volume of traffic using it and causing structural damage again, but allowing access for local residents. It stops the road from being used as a short cut.

I drive through it everyday and have yet to encounter a problem or hit the kerb, it is designed to go through at walking pace. Those who go too fast or lack spatial awareness or don't know the width of their vehicles are going to cause themselves problems.
And why should people be stopped from using your precious road as a 'short cut' ?
Try reading a) the article and b) my post and perhaps you'll get the answer.

The road was closed because the bridge was too weak to carry the amount traffic and despite having a weight restriction, many lorries ignored it. The new works have put a stop to this and as a by-product reduced the volume of traffic. People can still use the road but the chicane means travelling down it is very slow, prone to cause queues in rush hour and thus negate any advantage using the road as a short cut to avoid the Cromwell Road/Drive traffic lights.

If they had just returned it to as it was, a bridge which was built for carrying farm traffic in the Victorian era, would in all likelihood be closed again in a few years to repair yet more structural faults.
[quote][p][bold]FatherTed11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stig Thundercock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: Two years for this monstrosity?!! Would love to know how much has that cost the council tax payers.[/p][/quote]Do some research. Bridge is owned by Network Rail who took the decision to close it, they were the ones who repaired it - often done at night and when engineering works were scheduled on the line, they were the ones who stipulated that the traffic calming had to be rigorously enforced. The council spent a couple of weeks replacing the pavement that had been dug up and installing the new measures. Opening was delayed due to a street party organised by the owner of The Hub. As someone who has lived on this street for nearly 20 years I applaud it, it does exactly what it is supposed to do, reduce size and volume of traffic using it and causing structural damage again, but allowing access for local residents. It stops the road from being used as a short cut. I drive through it everyday and have yet to encounter a problem or hit the kerb, it is designed to go through at walking pace. Those who go too fast or lack spatial awareness or don't know the width of their vehicles are going to cause themselves problems.[/p][/quote]And why should people be stopped from using your precious road as a 'short cut' ?[/p][/quote]Try reading a) the article and b) my post and perhaps you'll get the answer. The road was closed because the bridge was too weak to carry the amount traffic and despite having a weight restriction, many lorries ignored it. The new works have put a stop to this and as a by-product reduced the volume of traffic. People can still use the road but the chicane means travelling down it is very slow, prone to cause queues in rush hour and thus negate any advantage using the road as a short cut to avoid the Cromwell Road/Drive traffic lights. If they had just returned it to as it was, a bridge which was built for carrying farm traffic in the Victorian era, would in all likelihood be closed again in a few years to repair yet more structural faults. Stig Thundercock
  • Score: 9

9:44am Sat 9 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Nosfaratu wrote:
Morning everyone ! You are correct in saying a height barrier would have been more effective and much cheaper but how long before some idiot hit it. My worry is the weight of the extra crap on top of a weak bridge.
PS What 'extra crap'?! A few extra paving slabs and kerbs and an additional bit of signage - lots of extra weight there then!!! Here's a tip - THINK before you next post!!
[quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: Morning everyone ! You are correct in saying a height barrier would have been more effective and much cheaper but how long before some idiot hit it. My worry is the weight of the extra crap on top of a weak bridge.[/p][/quote]PS What 'extra crap'?! A few extra paving slabs and kerbs and an additional bit of signage - lots of extra weight there then!!! Here's a tip - THINK before you next post!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -10

9:45am Sat 9 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Nosfaratu wrote:
Morning everyone ! You are correct in saying a height barrier would have been more effective and much cheaper but how long before some idiot hit it. My worry is the weight of the extra crap on top of a weak bridge.
PS What 'extra crap'?! A few extra paving slabs and kerbs and an additional bit of signage - lots of extra weight there then!!! Here's a tip - THINK before you next post!!
[quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: Morning everyone ! You are correct in saying a height barrier would have been more effective and much cheaper but how long before some idiot hit it. My worry is the weight of the extra crap on top of a weak bridge.[/p][/quote]PS What 'extra crap'?! A few extra paving slabs and kerbs and an additional bit of signage - lots of extra weight there then!!! Here's a tip - THINK before you next post!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -9

10:35am Sat 9 Aug 14

paulforrest says...

“It’s stopping the wrong kind of people. It isn’t stopping delivery drivers and white van men who take it at 30 or 40 miles an hour straight through.

OK yes I see some van drivers out there who act recklessly, just as I see car drivers, bus drivers, pedestrians, cyclists, etc who really shouldn't be on the road...

BUT, one question - how does Melanie White receive the food and other supplies for her cafe?
“It’s stopping the wrong kind of people. It isn’t stopping delivery drivers and white van men who take it at 30 or 40 miles an hour straight through. OK yes I see some van drivers out there who act recklessly, just as I see car drivers, bus drivers, pedestrians, cyclists, etc who really shouldn't be on the road... BUT, one question - how does Melanie White receive the food and other supplies for her cafe? paulforrest
  • Score: 4

11:18am Sun 10 Aug 14

jackthekipper says...

moan,moan,moan
moan,moan,moan jackthekipper
  • Score: 5

5:04pm Mon 11 Aug 14

theargusissoinformative says...

What a lot of scroaty hot air. This width restriction seems to have come about from John Betjeman's work. Why not take a look at http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Albert_Brid
ge,_London

It has to be my favourite Thames crossing.
What a lot of scroaty hot air. This width restriction seems to have come about from John Betjeman's work. Why not take a look at http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Albert_Brid ge,_London It has to be my favourite Thames crossing. theargusissoinformative
  • Score: 4

8:21am Tue 12 Aug 14

Joshiman says...

Clueless,Love to waste tax payers monies Brighton road planners have built a number of these around Brighton and Hove.Why?Because they are so anti car its criminal causing anger/frustration/hi
gh blood pressure etc.What with the games they play on the seafront with a ludicrous traffic light system all the way to Peacehaven.Why? cos they hate motorists and love pollution and must get a high inhaling co2 gasses.Unfortunately I have to reluctantly drive into this man made permanent traffic jam/gridlock city to work.Shoreham is free from Brighton traffic planners for which we are all grateful.
Clueless,Love to waste tax payers monies Brighton road planners have built a number of these around Brighton and Hove.Why?Because they are so anti car its criminal causing anger/frustration/hi gh blood pressure etc.What with the games they play on the seafront with a ludicrous traffic light system all the way to Peacehaven.Why? cos they hate motorists and love pollution and must get a high inhaling co2 gasses.Unfortunately I have to reluctantly drive into this man made permanent traffic jam/gridlock city to work.Shoreham is free from Brighton traffic planners for which we are all grateful. Joshiman
  • Score: -2

2:37am Wed 13 Aug 14

ruberducker says...

The bridge in olive rd,used to have a 6'6 width restriction,and a 7.5 ton weight limit.
then btn and hove busses,wanted a bus route and use double deckers,instead of minibus,,and hey presto no restrictions...
bus lane going up edward st...only 4 busses an hour on that route.
a lot of influence this private company has .
The bridge in olive rd,used to have a 6'6 width restriction,and a 7.5 ton weight limit. then btn and hove busses,wanted a bus route and use double deckers,instead of minibus,,and hey presto no restrictions... bus lane going up edward st...only 4 busses an hour on that route. a lot of influence this private company has . ruberducker
  • Score: 2

11:29am Wed 13 Aug 14

stevo!! says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
twonk wrote:
Most of the HGV's that used this bridge were owned by Lynx Transport but they are no longer in Cambridge Grove. Why not just close the bridge as we all know that the railway never repair bridges as they don't want to eat into shareholder profits.
But they HAVE just repaired it you cretin! !
Your post really shows just how social media can be de-valued when morons are given a voice!
The irony!
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote: Most of the HGV's that used this bridge were owned by Lynx Transport but they are no longer in Cambridge Grove. Why not just close the bridge as we all know that the railway never repair bridges as they don't want to eat into shareholder profits.[/p][/quote]But they HAVE just repaired it you cretin! ! Your post really shows just how social media can be de-valued when morons are given a voice![/p][/quote]The irony! stevo!!
  • Score: 1

5:48pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Poem58 says...

charlie smirke wrote:
s&k wrote:
Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.
Yes, it's called the green party.
OK then Einstein - how do YOU propose to stop HGVs and other large lorries entering the bridge and causing damage and potential accidents?

This is a council road traffic department decision that would have been taken regardless of whatever political party happens to be in office.

Readers of comments here are getting increasingly bored of party political point scoring on every Argus story... it's the Greens getting it currently, but we remember the flak previous administrations received on these pages - and I'm guessing that most of them came from disgruntled supporters of their rivals. Big yawn...
[quote][p][bold]charlie smirke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: Glad to see British comedy is alive and well.[/p][/quote]Yes, it's called the green party.[/p][/quote]OK then Einstein - how do YOU propose to stop HGVs and other large lorries entering the bridge and causing damage and potential accidents? This is a council road traffic department decision that would have been taken regardless of whatever political party happens to be in office. Readers of comments here are getting increasingly bored of party political point scoring on every Argus story... it's the Greens getting it currently, but we remember the flak previous administrations received on these pages - and I'm guessing that most of them came from disgruntled supporters of their rivals. Big yawn... Poem58
  • Score: 1

6:57pm Wed 27 Aug 14

SomeBlokeFrom says...

I'd love to know exactly how much tax payers money has been wasted on this. In comparison with what it would have cost to stick up a height restriction bar! Typical of the council, let's fix it in the most expensive, time consuming way to cause maximum upset and disruption!
I'd love to know exactly how much tax payers money has been wasted on this. In comparison with what it would have cost to stick up a height restriction bar! Typical of the council, let's fix it in the most expensive, time consuming way to cause maximum upset and disruption! SomeBlokeFrom
  • Score: 1

7:40am Thu 28 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

SomeBlokeFrom wrote:
I'd love to know exactly how much tax payers money has been wasted on this. In comparison with what it would have cost to stick up a height restriction bar! Typical of the council, let's fix it in the most expensive, time consuming way to cause maximum upset and disruption!
It's not the council you feckin moron - christ there are so many idiots who like to comment without having a clue what they are talking about! Embarrassing!!
[quote][p][bold]SomeBlokeFrom[/bold] wrote: I'd love to know exactly how much tax payers money has been wasted on this. In comparison with what it would have cost to stick up a height restriction bar! Typical of the council, let's fix it in the most expensive, time consuming way to cause maximum upset and disruption![/p][/quote]It's not the council you feckin moron - christ there are so many idiots who like to comment without having a clue what they are talking about! Embarrassing!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

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