Lift used by the elderly ‘too expensive to repair’

Richard Selby, David Thomas, Janet Johnson and John Float

Richard Selby, David Thomas, Janet Johnson and John Float

First published in News by

A LIFT used by elderly and disabled tenants will remain closed as council chiefs say it is too expensive to repair.

Residents in Mayflower Square, Brighton, feel they are being denied easy access to nearby shops after the lift broke down in May.

It was being repaired by a council-hired contractor but has been closed after Brighton and Hove City Council said it was “not cost-effective” to keep repairing it because of the age of the machinery.

The lift outside the flats runs from the ground floor, down through a car park to Providence Place, behind the London Road shopping precinct.

Janet Johnson, 64, has lived in the block for ten years and has become a campaigner for fellow residents.

She said: “We have people in the block who have heart conditions and breathing problems. They can’t walk around the long way.

“They moved here for medical reasons because they were told when the flat was advertised that it had a lift.”

There are 53 flats in the block, which has a main entrance opening out on to New England Street.

Mrs Johnson said residents do not like using the stairs because of drinkers and drug-users.

Mrs Johnson said: “It doesn’t feel safe here. A lot of residents don’t want to use the staircase because of what is going on. They are too scared.”

A council spokeswoman said the work required to get the lift up and running again was not covered by the maintenance repair contract and it is therefore not going to be fixed.

Geoff Raw, executive director of Brighton and Hove City Council, said: “We are very sorry for the inconvenience to residents of Mayflower Square and London Road car park users.

“The lift in London Road car park is beyond economic repair and unfortunately will remain closed.

“Street-level access for residents of Mayflower Square is from the main entrance of the building. The ground-floor properties are accessible for wheelchair users.”

Residents who have mobility needs can get advice from council staff by calling 01273 293030.

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6:36am Wed 13 Aug 14

rogerthefish says...

This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ?

Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then
This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ? Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then rogerthefish
  • Score: 44

6:54am Wed 13 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

rogerthefish wrote:
This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ?

Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then
When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!!
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ? Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then[/p][/quote]When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -43

6:54am Wed 13 Aug 14

Fight_Back says...

Has our council not heard of the Equality Act ? I think the residents might want to get legal representation as I'm pretty sure the council are under a legal obligation to provide suitable access for disabled people.
Has our council not heard of the Equality Act ? I think the residents might want to get legal representation as I'm pretty sure the council are under a legal obligation to provide suitable access for disabled people. Fight_Back
  • Score: 44

6:55am Wed 13 Aug 14

Fight_Back says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ?

Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then
When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!!
It will do when the developer goes bust and the tax payer has to pay the loan.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ? Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then[/p][/quote]When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!![/p][/quote]It will do when the developer goes bust and the tax payer has to pay the loan. Fight_Back
  • Score: 32

7:22am Wed 13 Aug 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Perhaps if every council employee stopped taking the 15 days sick they take annually there would be money in the pot. I have never heard anything like it.
Central government cuts. Rubbish. This council fritters money away on vanity projects including a light up bus time table for the rich of Preston Park and a party in the park to celebrate the re painting of a cycle lane and then tries to tell those of us paying council tax these old folk can't have their lift.
And we are yet to hear the outcome of the investigation investigation into the housing department. And don't even start on the i360. This council can't even operate a bowling green.
The council is rotten to the core.
Perhaps if every council employee stopped taking the 15 days sick they take annually there would be money in the pot. I have never heard anything like it. Central government cuts. Rubbish. This council fritters money away on vanity projects including a light up bus time table for the rich of Preston Park and a party in the park to celebrate the re painting of a cycle lane and then tries to tell those of us paying council tax these old folk can't have their lift. And we are yet to hear the outcome of the investigation investigation into the housing department. And don't even start on the i360. This council can't even operate a bowling green. The council is rotten to the core. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 37

7:50am Wed 13 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs... Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -42

8:21am Wed 13 Aug 14

hoveguyactually says...

Like the prostitute said "It isn't the work. It's the stairs".
Like the prostitute said "It isn't the work. It's the stairs". hoveguyactually
  • Score: 1

8:38am Wed 13 Aug 14

ThinkBrighton says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ?

Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then
When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!!
Tory cuts, Tory cuts, there is a lot of dog sh1t in Hove Park is that a result of Tory cuts!
The i360 has a lot to do with the councils poor management of cash.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ? Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then[/p][/quote]When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!![/p][/quote]Tory cuts, Tory cuts, there is a lot of dog sh1t in Hove Park is that a result of Tory cuts! The i360 has a lot to do with the councils poor management of cash. ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 16

9:17am Wed 13 Aug 14

Morpheus says...

I am not surprised. The high rise buildings have been thrown up with enthusiasm particularly by councils and as people get older they become trapped in their flats and have difficulty in other places. It will be just the same for families with young children. I left a private flat 10 years ago because of problems with lifts. They have a limited life and need to be replaced at great cost and with long outages which cause severe problems for residents.

All we hear about from councils and government is the need for new infrastructure but they cannot even maintain the existing infrastructure and lifts are just one area of neglect. This country is going downhill because we live on debt and have continued to do this even during the supposed austerity period. It can only get worse. What will we do then?
I am not surprised. The high rise buildings have been thrown up with enthusiasm particularly by councils and as people get older they become trapped in their flats and have difficulty in other places. It will be just the same for families with young children. I left a private flat 10 years ago because of problems with lifts. They have a limited life and need to be replaced at great cost and with long outages which cause severe problems for residents. All we hear about from councils and government is the need for new infrastructure but they cannot even maintain the existing infrastructure and lifts are just one area of neglect. This country is going downhill because we live on debt and have continued to do this even during the supposed austerity period. It can only get worse. What will we do then? Morpheus
  • Score: 13

10:36am Wed 13 Aug 14

harbourguy says...

Morpheus wrote:
I am not surprised. The high rise buildings have been thrown up with enthusiasm particularly by councils and as people get older they become trapped in their flats and have difficulty in other places. It will be just the same for families with young children. I left a private flat 10 years ago because of problems with lifts. They have a limited life and need to be replaced at great cost and with long outages which cause severe problems for residents.

All we hear about from councils and government is the need for new infrastructure but they cannot even maintain the existing infrastructure and lifts are just one area of neglect. This country is going downhill because we live on debt and have continued to do this even during the supposed austerity period. It can only get worse. What will we do then?
These high rise blocks? Mayflower Square is 3 stories high.
[quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: I am not surprised. The high rise buildings have been thrown up with enthusiasm particularly by councils and as people get older they become trapped in their flats and have difficulty in other places. It will be just the same for families with young children. I left a private flat 10 years ago because of problems with lifts. They have a limited life and need to be replaced at great cost and with long outages which cause severe problems for residents. All we hear about from councils and government is the need for new infrastructure but they cannot even maintain the existing infrastructure and lifts are just one area of neglect. This country is going downhill because we live on debt and have continued to do this even during the supposed austerity period. It can only get worse. What will we do then?[/p][/quote]These high rise blocks? Mayflower Square is 3 stories high. harbourguy
  • Score: 2

1:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Bugzy84 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now. Bugzy84
  • Score: 6

2:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Worriedofbrighton says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ?

Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then
When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!!
The council's lack of cash may have something to do with all the students they encourage, who don't put anything in, just take out, but the greens need there vote. We all know what's going on. The sooner they go the better. Stop defending the undefensible it's a lost cause. Poor people work hard all there lives and get treated like crap by this bunch of loonies.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ? Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then[/p][/quote]When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!![/p][/quote]The council's lack of cash may have something to do with all the students they encourage, who don't put anything in, just take out, but the greens need there vote. We all know what's going on. The sooner they go the better. Stop defending the undefensible it's a lost cause. Poor people work hard all there lives and get treated like crap by this bunch of loonies. Worriedofbrighton
  • Score: 8

2:24pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Worriedofbrighton says...

Worriedofbrighton wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ?

Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then
When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!!
The council's lack of cash may have something to do with all the students they encourage, who don't put anything in, just take out, but the greens need there vote. We all know what's going on. The sooner they go the better. Stop defending the undefensible it's a lost cause. Poor people work hard all there lives and get treated like crap by this bunch of loonies.
Sorry indefensible
[quote][p][bold]Worriedofbrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ? Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then[/p][/quote]When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!![/p][/quote]The council's lack of cash may have something to do with all the students they encourage, who don't put anything in, just take out, but the greens need there vote. We all know what's going on. The sooner they go the better. Stop defending the undefensible it's a lost cause. Poor people work hard all there lives and get treated like crap by this bunch of loonies.[/p][/quote]Sorry indefensible Worriedofbrighton
  • Score: 3

2:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...
[quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.[/p][/quote]I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised... Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -5

3:24pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Bugzy84 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...
You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon.
Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs.
But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.[/p][/quote]I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...[/p][/quote]You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon. Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs. But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol. Bugzy84
  • Score: 7

3:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

stevo!! says...

Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...
You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon.
Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs.
But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.
You reported her post?

For what??
[quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.[/p][/quote]I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...[/p][/quote]You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon. Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs. But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.[/p][/quote]You reported her post? For what?? stevo!!
  • Score: 0

4:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Bugzy84 says...

stevo!! wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...
You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon.
Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs.
But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.
You reported her post?

For what??
Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad.

FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.[/p][/quote]I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...[/p][/quote]You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon. Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs. But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.[/p][/quote]You reported her post? For what??[/p][/quote]Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad. FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles. Bugzy84
  • Score: 5

4:18pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Bugzy84 wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...
You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon.
Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs.
But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.
You reported her post?

For what??
Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad.

FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.
Oh, lord - the dreariness of the lower-middle classes: latching on mindlessly to hand-me-down morals without ever stopping to think that life, ideas, ethics are fluid and complex.
[quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.[/p][/quote]I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...[/p][/quote]You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon. Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs. But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.[/p][/quote]You reported her post? For what??[/p][/quote]Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad. FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.[/p][/quote]Oh, lord - the dreariness of the lower-middle classes: latching on mindlessly to hand-me-down morals without ever stopping to think that life, ideas, ethics are fluid and complex. Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -3

4:35pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Bugzy84 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...
You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon.
Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs.
But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.
You reported her post?

For what??
Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad.

FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.
Oh, lord - the dreariness of the lower-middle classes: latching on mindlessly to hand-me-down morals without ever stopping to think that life, ideas, ethics are fluid and complex.
HA!!!
Did you have to use a thesaurus to come up with that sentence?
To question my morals for what you have said in the past it laughable, you are the poorest excuse for a human being.
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.[/p][/quote]I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...[/p][/quote]You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon. Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs. But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.[/p][/quote]You reported her post? For what??[/p][/quote]Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad. FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.[/p][/quote]Oh, lord - the dreariness of the lower-middle classes: latching on mindlessly to hand-me-down morals without ever stopping to think that life, ideas, ethics are fluid and complex.[/p][/quote]HA!!! Did you have to use a thesaurus to come up with that sentence? To question my morals for what you have said in the past it laughable, you are the poorest excuse for a human being. Bugzy84
  • Score: 4

4:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...
You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon.
Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs.
But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.
You reported her post?

For what??
Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad.

FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.
Oh, lord - the dreariness of the lower-middle classes: latching on mindlessly to hand-me-down morals without ever stopping to think that life, ideas, ethics are fluid and complex.
Oh god, not another leftie intellectual, or is saggyjugs just Saint Caroline in disguise ?
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.[/p][/quote]I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...[/p][/quote]You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon. Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs. But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.[/p][/quote]You reported her post? For what??[/p][/quote]Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad. FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.[/p][/quote]Oh, lord - the dreariness of the lower-middle classes: latching on mindlessly to hand-me-down morals without ever stopping to think that life, ideas, ethics are fluid and complex.[/p][/quote]Oh god, not another leftie intellectual, or is saggyjugs just Saint Caroline in disguise ? Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 3

4:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ?

Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then
When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!!
When will people like you understand that

a) We have a coalition government and
b) Leftie idiots, in this case labour, practically bankrupted the country and caused the need for remedial action and
c) more Leftie idiots, in the shape of our numpty Green council are incapable of prioritising their spending on the services they should be providing and hence come up with little gems like this.

I suspect you are another of these leftie nitwits who believes everybody who actually does something positive, like working for a living, should pay for everyone who can't be bothered to get off their backsides. Try getting real for once or buzz off to Russia, China or North Korea and enjoy the kind of Society you seem to long for.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ? Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then[/p][/quote]When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!![/p][/quote]When will people like you understand that a) We have a coalition government and b) Leftie idiots, in this case labour, practically bankrupted the country and caused the need for remedial action and c) more Leftie idiots, in the shape of our numpty Green council are incapable of prioritising their spending on the services they should be providing and hence come up with little gems like this. I suspect you are another of these leftie nitwits who believes everybody who actually does something positive, like working for a living, should pay for everyone who can't be bothered to get off their backsides. Try getting real for once or buzz off to Russia, China or North Korea and enjoy the kind of Society you seem to long for. Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 2

5:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

jay316 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ?

Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then
When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!!
Cuts due to the open cheque book policy of the previous government.

Needless to say Brighton Council is a hung council so all are involved..
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: This is absolutely disgusting and shows the council have got there priorities wrong, they spend £40million on an ego maniac seafront lift that no one wants and yet they can't maintain this one...and when you going to bother to fix the seafront roadworks ? Suggest all of you phone up Mr Raw everyday at Brighton council on 290000-it will be done then[/p][/quote]When will people like you realise this is a DIRECT RESULT of Tory cuts that Labour consistently back?! And don't give me the rubbish about the i360 - the financing of that has nothing to do with the council's lack of cash!![/p][/quote]Cuts due to the open cheque book policy of the previous government. Needless to say Brighton Council is a hung council so all are involved.. jay316
  • Score: 1

5:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

stevo!! says...

Bugzy84 wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...
You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon.
Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs.
But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.
You reported her post?

For what??
Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad.

FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.
" I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles."

No, you weren't, so don't lie.

You stated:

" I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can "
Which means that every time you see a post of hers, you'll report it, including the one that you'd just quoted.

You're welcome.
[quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.[/p][/quote]I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...[/p][/quote]You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon. Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs. But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.[/p][/quote]You reported her post? For what??[/p][/quote]Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad. FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.[/p][/quote]" I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles." No, you weren't, so don't lie. You stated: " I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can " Which means that every time you see a post of hers, you'll report it, including the one that you'd just quoted. You're welcome. stevo!!
  • Score: -1

5:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...
You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon.
Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs.
But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.
You reported her post?

For what??
Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad.

FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.
Oh, lord - the dreariness of the lower-middle classes: latching on mindlessly to hand-me-down morals without ever stopping to think that life, ideas, ethics are fluid and complex.
HA!!!
Did you have to use a thesaurus to come up with that sentence?
To question my morals for what you have said in the past it laughable, you are the poorest excuse for a human being.
Thesaurus? No. Did you have to use a dictionary to understand it? (Presumably, yes - if you possibly think I was writing in some kind of advanced style.)

Actually, your paltry response entirely reinforces what I was trying to explain in my original comment.

I feel drained...
[quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.[/p][/quote]I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...[/p][/quote]You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon. Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs. But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.[/p][/quote]You reported her post? For what??[/p][/quote]Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad. FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.[/p][/quote]Oh, lord - the dreariness of the lower-middle classes: latching on mindlessly to hand-me-down morals without ever stopping to think that life, ideas, ethics are fluid and complex.[/p][/quote]HA!!! Did you have to use a thesaurus to come up with that sentence? To question my morals for what you have said in the past it laughable, you are the poorest excuse for a human being.[/p][/quote]Thesaurus? No. Did you have to use a dictionary to understand it? (Presumably, yes - if you possibly think I was writing in some kind of advanced style.) Actually, your paltry response entirely reinforces what I was trying to explain in my original comment. I feel drained... Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -5

6:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

stevo!! says...

I must thank The Argus for confirming that posts that complain about the council funding gay events at the expense of the elderly are not permitted.

I shall see to it that I never make that complaint again.
I must thank The Argus for confirming that posts that complain about the council funding gay events at the expense of the elderly are not permitted. I shall see to it that I never make that complaint again. stevo!!
  • Score: 0

8:54pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...
Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.
I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...
You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon.
Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs.
But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.
You reported her post?

For what??
Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad.

FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.
Oh, lord - the dreariness of the lower-middle classes: latching on mindlessly to hand-me-down morals without ever stopping to think that life, ideas, ethics are fluid and complex.
HA!!!
Did you have to use a thesaurus to come up with that sentence?
To question my morals for what you have said in the past it laughable, you are the poorest excuse for a human being.
Thesaurus? No. Did you have to use a dictionary to understand it? (Presumably, yes - if you possibly think I was writing in some kind of advanced style.)

Actually, your paltry response entirely reinforces what I was trying to explain in my original comment.

I feel drained...
You feel drained

Definitely saggyjugs then !
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Good! This decision will actually HELP give old people their dignity back by getting them to rely upon their OWN resources and determination to get up and down the stairs...[/p][/quote]Wow your stupidity has no bounds saggyjugs troll, back under your bridge now.[/p][/quote]I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to digntise the elderly. You obviously want your old people to be passive and patronised...[/p][/quote]You obviously are too thick to understand not ever elderly person is from the film Cocoon. Dignity is not someone struggling to go up a flight of stairs because of a debilitating condition or illness, dignity is not becoming house bound and losing your independence because you're worried you might trip, slip and fall down the stairs. But as you're a troll I don't expect a compassionate response to other peoples misfortune, so I'll just keep on reporting and removing as many of your posts as I can lol.[/p][/quote]You reported her post? For what??[/p][/quote]Another idiot that can't read it seems, go join saggyjugs under that troll bridge because you're just as bad. FYI, I was referring to other hateful comments she has made on other articles.[/p][/quote]Oh, lord - the dreariness of the lower-middle classes: latching on mindlessly to hand-me-down morals without ever stopping to think that life, ideas, ethics are fluid and complex.[/p][/quote]HA!!! Did you have to use a thesaurus to come up with that sentence? To question my morals for what you have said in the past it laughable, you are the poorest excuse for a human being.[/p][/quote]Thesaurus? No. Did you have to use a dictionary to understand it? (Presumably, yes - if you possibly think I was writing in some kind of advanced style.) Actually, your paltry response entirely reinforces what I was trying to explain in my original comment. I feel drained...[/p][/quote]You feel drained Definitely saggyjugs then ! Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 1

12:51am Thu 14 Aug 14

Juliusinnit says...

If the lift was part of the original design of the block of flats then the council should repair or replace it. How much would it cost to repair or replace? Why is this deemed "uneconomic?" (sic)
If the lift was part of the original design of the block of flats then the council should repair or replace it. How much would it cost to repair or replace? Why is this deemed "uneconomic?" (sic) Juliusinnit
  • Score: 2

12:31pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Youłikemyjugs says...

I apologise for the offence I have caused on this article and other stories.
Many apologies.
I apologise for the offence I have caused on this article and other stories. Many apologies. Youłikemyjugs
  • Score: 0

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