Sussex MP's warning on new 'severe' terror alert

MP's warning on new 'severe' terror alert

MP's warning on new 'severe' terror alert

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A Home Office minister and Sussex MP has advised residents to carry on as normal despite the Government announcing that the UK’s terror rating had been increased to “severe”.

Norman Baker said residents altering their behaviour would be a “victory” for terrorists.

The Lewes MP was speaking to The Argus after the Home Office raised the terrorism risk rating to its second highest level suggesting that a terrorist attack was “highly likely”.

Home Secretary Theresa May said the increase was in response to developments in Syria and Iraq and she warned that terrorist plots were likely to involve fighters who have travelled to the Middle East from the UK and Europe.

In addition, Prime Minister David Cameron announced new laws to crack down on terror suspects with legislation set to make it easier to seize jihadists’ passports.

The Home Office yesterday told residents to be alert and to look out for any suspicious bags on public transport.

The Association of Chief Police Officers said there would be an increase in visible patrols and other security measures in response to raised terror alert.

Mr Baker said: “Residents should carry on as normal.

“If we alter our behaviour it is a victory for those who seek to destroy our liberty.

“I can’t predict where things are going. The world is in an unstable place at the moment, possibly more so now than in a long time, and it is right that the Government takes proper precautions and right that people carry on as normal.”

Inspector Pete Dommett from the Prevent team for Sussex Police said: “We are working hard to actively detect and disrupt any terrorist threats and urge people to be vigilant.

“We have serious concerns that anyone travelling to Syria and Iraq for humanitarian or other reasons may be targeted by terrorist groups who want to recruit them.” Police said officers at Gatwick were working to keep the public safe.

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8:11am Sat 30 Aug 14

Nosfaratu says...

Anybody likely to take any notice of 'Norman' ....................
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Thought not.
Anybody likely to take any notice of 'Norman' .................... ........ Thought not. Nosfaratu
  • Score: -26

8:56am Sat 30 Aug 14

Valentinian says...

Phew glad the Bank Holiday is over..with a third less Plod on duty we were vulnerable...now that Sussex Police are back to full strength we should have nothing to worry about......... Still nice to know the Gatwick Police are working hard to keep us safe! ....
Ps **** spell checker! Sorry I spelt your name wrong earlier Nelly!
...I knew it was Vowles .......BTW is Rachel as game on as Leo hints?
Phew glad the Bank Holiday is over..with a third less Plod on duty we were vulnerable...now that Sussex Police are back to full strength we should have nothing to worry about......... Still nice to know the Gatwick Police are working hard to keep us safe! .... Ps **** spell checker! Sorry I spelt your name wrong earlier Nelly! ...I knew it was Vowles .......BTW is Rachel as game on as Leo hints? Valentinian
  • Score: -88

9:22am Sat 30 Aug 14

Metro Reader says...

Strange how a conservative MP defects to UKIP, who in turn get massive press coverage, the suddenly for no real reason, as in their is no immediate change, the terror threat level is raise and all eyes and press coverage is back on the government.

election time and the panto starts now.
Strange how a conservative MP defects to UKIP, who in turn get massive press coverage, the suddenly for no real reason, as in their is no immediate change, the terror threat level is raise and all eyes and press coverage is back on the government. election time and the panto starts now. Metro Reader
  • Score: 36

9:29am Sat 30 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Why on earth would we seek powers to seize jihadists passports - that means we are lumbered with them in the UK where they are able to commit acts of violence if so inclined?!! Surely the obvious solution is to cancel the passports when they're out of the country then the b*****d's can't come back!!
Why on earth would we seek powers to seize jihadists passports - that means we are lumbered with them in the UK where they are able to commit acts of violence if so inclined?!! Surely the obvious solution is to cancel the passports when they're out of the country then the b*****d's can't come back!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 52

9:36am Sat 30 Aug 14

Morpheus says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Why on earth would we seek powers to seize jihadists passports - that means we are lumbered with them in the UK where they are able to commit acts of violence if so inclined?!! Surely the obvious solution is to cancel the passports when they're out of the country then the b*****d's can't come back!!
If every country did the same we would be left with a number of foreign criminals and undesirables in this country that we do not want. Your proposal gets us nowhere.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: Why on earth would we seek powers to seize jihadists passports - that means we are lumbered with them in the UK where they are able to commit acts of violence if so inclined?!! Surely the obvious solution is to cancel the passports when they're out of the country then the b*****d's can't come back!![/p][/quote]If every country did the same we would be left with a number of foreign criminals and undesirables in this country that we do not want. Your proposal gets us nowhere. Morpheus
  • Score: 0

10:06am Sat 30 Aug 14

IratusFurcifer says...

Let them stay in the country they are willing to die for, do not allow them back!
Let them stay in the country they are willing to die for, do not allow them back! IratusFurcifer
  • Score: 38

10:11am Sat 30 Aug 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

That's ok for a chap to say when he lives a cosy country life.
We've seen the tube bombings, 9/11, we've seen our taxes paying for hook armed hate preachers and their families to live in massive prime site London council properties and courts telling us we cannot extradite them to the US for trials for horrific crimes because of their human rights, we've seen the cuts to the MoD budget and the police thanks to you Norman getting into bed with the Tories.
Norman, you and the others from many parties, who have been in politics for a long time have created a fertile bed for civil unrest in the UK and you have helped make the UK a dangerous place and your time is up.
A constant stream of press releases to show your electorate you working for them may fool the people of Lewes, but it doesn't fool anyone else.
That's ok for a chap to say when he lives a cosy country life. We've seen the tube bombings, 9/11, we've seen our taxes paying for hook armed hate preachers and their families to live in massive prime site London council properties and courts telling us we cannot extradite them to the US for trials for horrific crimes because of their human rights, we've seen the cuts to the MoD budget and the police thanks to you Norman getting into bed with the Tories. Norman, you and the others from many parties, who have been in politics for a long time have created a fertile bed for civil unrest in the UK and you have helped make the UK a dangerous place and your time is up. A constant stream of press releases to show your electorate you working for them may fool the people of Lewes, but it doesn't fool anyone else. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 23

10:11am Sat 30 Aug 14

Bluebeef says...

Consider making it a criminal offence to join a terrorist group abroad as well as in the UK? I suppose this might have stopped the heroes who fought in Spain?

discuss
Consider making it a criminal offence to join a terrorist group abroad as well as in the UK? I suppose this might have stopped the heroes who fought in Spain? discuss Bluebeef
  • Score: 2

10:21am Sat 30 Aug 14

Farawaynow says...

Will this mean that UK Jews who volunteer for duty in the IDS also be classed as terrorists or ex SAS/SBS who work as contract killers for the multi- national corporations - thought not.
Will this mean that UK Jews who volunteer for duty in the IDS also be classed as terrorists or ex SAS/SBS who work as contract killers for the multi- national corporations - thought not. Farawaynow
  • Score: -13

10:34am Sat 30 Aug 14

Goldenwight says...

As a matter of interest, doe anyone know what the 'Terror' alert level was during previous well known terrorist attacks?

Because I, for one, do not recall any increased threat warning issued to the public before the London tube bombings, the Brighton Grand Hotel bombing, Guildford pub bombing or any others. Yet all of these represented a major threat to the public, an innocents died in all of them who might have been saved with due warning.

This appears to be nothing more than a meaningless scare tactic. And, as 'Metro Reader' says, it does deflect press attention away from other issues which UKGOV would like to overlook.
As a matter of interest, doe anyone know what the 'Terror' alert level was during previous well known terrorist attacks? Because I, for one, do not recall any increased threat warning issued to the public before the London tube bombings, the Brighton Grand Hotel bombing, Guildford pub bombing or any others. Yet all of these represented a major threat to the public, an innocents died in all of them who might have been saved with due warning. This appears to be nothing more than a meaningless scare tactic. And, as 'Metro Reader' says, it does deflect press attention away from other issues which UKGOV would like to overlook. Goldenwight
  • Score: -49

10:37am Sat 30 Aug 14

From beer to uncertainty says...

I hope the government have got a plan - from past performance I wonder if it plans to privatise the armed forces and border control agency, and donate £250 to the Women's Institute - asking them to suspend all jam making activities and tackle the nutters raising foreign flags across the UK?
I hope the government have got a plan - from past performance I wonder if it plans to privatise the armed forces and border control agency, and donate £250 to the Women's Institute - asking them to suspend all jam making activities and tackle the nutters raising foreign flags across the UK? From beer to uncertainty
  • Score: 6

10:42am Sat 30 Aug 14

Goldenwight says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
That's ok for a chap to say when he lives a cosy country life.
We've seen the tube bombings, 9/11, we've seen our taxes paying for hook armed hate preachers and their families to live in massive prime site London council properties and courts telling us we cannot extradite them to the US for trials for horrific crimes because of their human rights, we've seen the cuts to the MoD budget and the police thanks to you Norman getting into bed with the Tories.
Norman, you and the others from many parties, who have been in politics for a long time have created a fertile bed for civil unrest in the UK and you have helped make the UK a dangerous place and your time is up.
A constant stream of press releases to show your electorate you working for them may fool the people of Lewes, but it doesn't fool anyone else.
We have also seen HUGE numbers of skin-headed, pit-bull owning fascists who regularly abuse those of a different skin tone/religion/fashio
n sense/ political bent being housed in Council properties nationwide. These people have, I will agree with you, "created a fertile bed for civil unrest in the UK." And we also house a number of evil 'Christians' who would try to pervert their religion and force unwelcome and unlawful views on others- such as harassing those who visit birth control clinics. Perhaps YOU agree with victimising unfortunate young women who have been abused and find themselves pregnant against their will, Maxwell's Ghost, but I don't. And I think you will find that you are in a VERY small minority.

But I fail utterly to see what point you are trying to make here. Are you suggesting that we should deport all the UK born racist scum and other social undesireables? Whilst it might do wonders for LA housing waiting lists, where exactly do you think we should send them? And why do you think they are likely to be accepted?
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: That's ok for a chap to say when he lives a cosy country life. We've seen the tube bombings, 9/11, we've seen our taxes paying for hook armed hate preachers and their families to live in massive prime site London council properties and courts telling us we cannot extradite them to the US for trials for horrific crimes because of their human rights, we've seen the cuts to the MoD budget and the police thanks to you Norman getting into bed with the Tories. Norman, you and the others from many parties, who have been in politics for a long time have created a fertile bed for civil unrest in the UK and you have helped make the UK a dangerous place and your time is up. A constant stream of press releases to show your electorate you working for them may fool the people of Lewes, but it doesn't fool anyone else.[/p][/quote]We have also seen HUGE numbers of skin-headed, pit-bull owning fascists who regularly abuse those of a different skin tone/religion/fashio n sense/ political bent being housed in Council properties nationwide. These people have, I will agree with you, "created a fertile bed for civil unrest in the UK." And we also house a number of evil 'Christians' who would try to pervert their religion and force unwelcome and unlawful views on others- such as harassing those who visit birth control clinics. Perhaps YOU agree with victimising unfortunate young women who have been abused and find themselves pregnant against their will, Maxwell's Ghost, but I don't. And I think you will find that you are in a VERY small minority. But I fail utterly to see what point you are trying to make here. Are you suggesting that we should deport all the UK born racist scum and other social undesireables? Whilst it might do wonders for LA housing waiting lists, where exactly do you think we should send them? And why do you think they are likely to be accepted? Goldenwight
  • Score: -69

10:55am Sat 30 Aug 14

boo2005 says...

immediate response, totally secure our borders until we know more about this situation, if not, shoot on sight!
immediate response, totally secure our borders until we know more about this situation, if not, shoot on sight! boo2005
  • Score: 2

11:03am Sat 30 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.
We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state. HJarrs
  • Score: -5

11:07am Sat 30 Aug 14

homewood says...

I guess with an ever increasing Muslim population across Europe, the risk is a small but significant number can turn violent at any time once radicalised.
I guess with an ever increasing Muslim population across Europe, the risk is a small but significant number can turn violent at any time once radicalised. homewood
  • Score: 3

11:07am Sat 30 Aug 14

boo2005 says...

Bluebeef wrote:
Consider making it a criminal offence to join a terrorist group abroad as well as in the UK? I suppose this might have stopped the heroes who fought in Spain?

discuss
well, the word is descriminative, we must have the means for christ's sake, we still have one of the best security organisations in the world, what's the hold-up with stopping all of this nonsense!....deal most severely with the problem in THIS country, initially, that's what we should be bothered with!.....what's happening with the people we voted for, to act on our behalf, as a nation?.....tighted up and clamp down on this evil portion of life, an absolute sub-species if ever there was one!
[quote][p][bold]Bluebeef[/bold] wrote: Consider making it a criminal offence to join a terrorist group abroad as well as in the UK? I suppose this might have stopped the heroes who fought in Spain? discuss[/p][/quote]well, the word is descriminative, we must have the means for christ's sake, we still have one of the best security organisations in the world, what's the hold-up with stopping all of this nonsense!....deal most severely with the problem in THIS country, initially, that's what we should be bothered with!.....what's happening with the people we voted for, to act on our behalf, as a nation?.....tighted up and clamp down on this evil portion of life, an absolute sub-species if ever there was one! boo2005
  • Score: 0

11:08am Sat 30 Aug 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Racist scum flourish when governments, the judiciary and the police fail to manage terrorism of any kind. If you continue to fail to manage it as the public expects, maniac racist scum gain numbers.
This has been shown throughout history and particularly in the post First World War years in Europe and the run up to the Second World War.
The Govt's failure to manage the threat of terror in the UK gives these people the fuel to gather more fans and maniacs and everyone becomes at risk.
And Goodenwight, the fact that members of the public are now taking action themselves to manage traveller encampments is a good example of how failure ya the authorities to use laws to manage an issue leads to people doing it their own way which can only end in tragedy at some point.
That's the point I'm making and a point which can be seen throughout history yet all we learn from history is that we learn nothing.
If you disempower the public from doing the right thing, they do it themselves. That is the danger.
Racist scum flourish when governments, the judiciary and the police fail to manage terrorism of any kind. If you continue to fail to manage it as the public expects, maniac racist scum gain numbers. This has been shown throughout history and particularly in the post First World War years in Europe and the run up to the Second World War. The Govt's failure to manage the threat of terror in the UK gives these people the fuel to gather more fans and maniacs and everyone becomes at risk. And Goodenwight, the fact that members of the public are now taking action themselves to manage traveller encampments is a good example of how failure ya the authorities to use laws to manage an issue leads to people doing it their own way which can only end in tragedy at some point. That's the point I'm making and a point which can be seen throughout history yet all we learn from history is that we learn nothing. If you disempower the public from doing the right thing, they do it themselves. That is the danger. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 3

11:18am Sat 30 Aug 14

boo2005 says...

'Tighten' DOH!
'Tighten' DOH! boo2005
  • Score: -3

11:36am Sat 30 Aug 14

ourcoalition says...

We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza.

Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target.

And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK".

Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.
We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza. Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target. And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK". Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell. ourcoalition
  • Score: 10

11:43am Sat 30 Aug 14

RootyRoo says...

Morpheus wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Why on earth would we seek powers to seize jihadists passports - that means we are lumbered with them in the UK where they are able to commit acts of violence if so inclined?!! Surely the obvious solution is to cancel the passports when they're out of the country then the b*****d's can't come back!!
If every country did the same we would be left with a number of foreign criminals and undesirables in this country that we do not want. Your proposal gets us nowhere.
Our country is full of foreign criminals. We need to get them out ASAP. We also have plenty of native criminals but unfortunately we're stuck with them.
[quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: Why on earth would we seek powers to seize jihadists passports - that means we are lumbered with them in the UK where they are able to commit acts of violence if so inclined?!! Surely the obvious solution is to cancel the passports when they're out of the country then the b*****d's can't come back!![/p][/quote]If every country did the same we would be left with a number of foreign criminals and undesirables in this country that we do not want. Your proposal gets us nowhere.[/p][/quote]Our country is full of foreign criminals. We need to get them out ASAP. We also have plenty of native criminals but unfortunately we're stuck with them. RootyRoo
  • Score: 9

11:50am Sat 30 Aug 14

fredaj says...

Terrorist alerts are about keeping the people frightened so they can be more easily controlled.

Politics 101 and they take us all for fools - it is just a shame some people are.
Terrorist alerts are about keeping the people frightened so they can be more easily controlled. Politics 101 and they take us all for fools - it is just a shame some people are. fredaj
  • Score: 6

12:07pm Sat 30 Aug 14

We love Red Billy says...

HJarrs wrote:
We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.
But at least PIRA had the good manners to phone up before they let a bomb off. This lot are most unsportsman like.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.[/p][/quote]But at least PIRA had the good manners to phone up before they let a bomb off. This lot are most unsportsman like. We love Red Billy
  • Score: -6

12:27pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

If you walk into many public buildings including the city's courts there are official signs stating the level of terror alert. The signage has the state crown on the top of it. You probably never really look as it's just signage. You will also see it outside military bases and ports.
My wife is an ITU and A&E trained nurse and she is part of the emergency escalation process in the UK and she is alerted weekly of the terror alert level via her employer. Some of her friends are in psychiatric health teams and they have all been trained to identify mental health patients who may be being groomed and indoctrinated to carry out terror attacks due to their vulnerability.
The alert level is publicised openly, it's perhaps not that important to most peoples daily lives unless you work in an agency which may be affected in some way.
If you walk into many public buildings including the city's courts there are official signs stating the level of terror alert. The signage has the state crown on the top of it. You probably never really look as it's just signage. You will also see it outside military bases and ports. My wife is an ITU and A&E trained nurse and she is part of the emergency escalation process in the UK and she is alerted weekly of the terror alert level via her employer. Some of her friends are in psychiatric health teams and they have all been trained to identify mental health patients who may be being groomed and indoctrinated to carry out terror attacks due to their vulnerability. The alert level is publicised openly, it's perhaps not that important to most peoples daily lives unless you work in an agency which may be affected in some way. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 2

12:45pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

In the Omagh bombing 29 people died and more than 200 injured. The IRA gave a telephone warning with incorrect information and people were lead into the bomb area.
This was the highest loss of life in such an attack and lead to the general public no matter what their politics or religion pushing harder for an end to the terror.
In the Omagh bombing 29 people died and more than 200 injured. The IRA gave a telephone warning with incorrect information and people were lead into the bomb area. This was the highest loss of life in such an attack and lead to the general public no matter what their politics or religion pushing harder for an end to the terror. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 6

1:23pm Sat 30 Aug 14

fredaj says...

HJarrs wrote:
We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.
No, you are wrong - not even close in fact!

They are about controlling the masses, not protecting the elite.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.[/p][/quote]No, you are wrong - not even close in fact! They are about controlling the masses, not protecting the elite. fredaj
  • Score: -7

1:31pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

"new 'severe' terror alert"

Another triumph for multiculturalism.

If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.
"new 'severe' terror alert" Another triumph for multiculturalism. If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is. ok,jared
  • Score: -52

2:29pm Sat 30 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

fredaj wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.
No, you are wrong - not even close in fact!

They are about controlling the masses, not protecting the elite.
I would agree that terrorism has been a pretext for the mass spying on the British population. It is this mindset that lead to well known terrorist Angela Merkal having her phone tapped by the Americans.
[quote][p][bold]fredaj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.[/p][/quote]No, you are wrong - not even close in fact! They are about controlling the masses, not protecting the elite.[/p][/quote]I would agree that terrorism has been a pretext for the mass spying on the British population. It is this mindset that lead to well known terrorist Angela Merkal having her phone tapped by the Americans. HJarrs
  • Score: 4

2:31pm Sat 30 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

We love Red Billy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.
But at least PIRA had the good manners to phone up before they let a bomb off. This lot are most unsportsman like.
Sometimes.
[quote][p][bold]We love Red Billy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.[/p][/quote]But at least PIRA had the good manners to phone up before they let a bomb off. This lot are most unsportsman like.[/p][/quote]Sometimes. HJarrs
  • Score: 0

2:38pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Roundbill says...

ok,jared wrote:
"new 'severe' terror alert"

Another triumph for multiculturalism.

If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.
Hi Stevo - love the new name.
[quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: "new 'severe' terror alert" Another triumph for multiculturalism. If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.[/p][/quote]Hi Stevo - love the new name. Roundbill
  • Score: 64

3:32pm Sat 30 Aug 14

We love Red Billy says...

HJarrs wrote:
We love Red Billy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.
But at least PIRA had the good manners to phone up before they let a bomb off. This lot are most unsportsman like.
Sometimes.
PIRA didn't always phone or ISIS are sometimes unsportsmanlike? Which did you mean Steve?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]We love Red Billy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.[/p][/quote]But at least PIRA had the good manners to phone up before they let a bomb off. This lot are most unsportsman like.[/p][/quote]Sometimes.[/p][/quote]PIRA didn't always phone or ISIS are sometimes unsportsmanlike? Which did you mean Steve? We love Red Billy
  • Score: 0

3:44pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

ourcoalition wrote:
We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza.

Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target.

And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK".

Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.
Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.
[quote][p][bold]ourcoalition[/bold] wrote: We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza. Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target. And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK". Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.[/p][/quote]Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939. Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: -28

4:22pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

Roundbill wrote:
ok,jared wrote:
"new 'severe' terror alert"

Another triumph for multiculturalism.

If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.
Hi Stevo - love the new name.
Believe it or not, more than one person in this area holds that view I expressed.
[quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: "new 'severe' terror alert" Another triumph for multiculturalism. If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.[/p][/quote]Hi Stevo - love the new name.[/p][/quote]Believe it or not, more than one person in this area holds that view I expressed. ok,jared
  • Score: -46

4:31pm Sat 30 Aug 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

boo2005 wrote:
Bluebeef wrote:
Consider making it a criminal offence to join a terrorist group abroad as well as in the UK? I suppose this might have stopped the heroes who fought in Spain?

discuss
well, the word is descriminative, we must have the means for christ's sake, we still have one of the best security organisations in the world, what's the hold-up with stopping all of this nonsense!....deal most severely with the problem in THIS country, initially, that's what we should be bothered with!.....what's happening with the people we voted for, to act on our behalf, as a nation?.....tighted up and clamp down on this evil portion of life, an absolute sub-species if ever there was one!
And that is exactly what those in power and the media want you to believe.

Fear no one. The only terrorists to fight against are those in Parliament, in the USA government and the Israelli government.

The guy with a hook was a paid CIA employee - it's all part of their plan.
[quote][p][bold]boo2005[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bluebeef[/bold] wrote: Consider making it a criminal offence to join a terrorist group abroad as well as in the UK? I suppose this might have stopped the heroes who fought in Spain? discuss[/p][/quote]well, the word is descriminative, we must have the means for christ's sake, we still have one of the best security organisations in the world, what's the hold-up with stopping all of this nonsense!....deal most severely with the problem in THIS country, initially, that's what we should be bothered with!.....what's happening with the people we voted for, to act on our behalf, as a nation?.....tighted up and clamp down on this evil portion of life, an absolute sub-species if ever there was one![/p][/quote]And that is exactly what those in power and the media want you to believe. Fear no one. The only terrorists to fight against are those in Parliament, in the USA government and the Israelli government. The guy with a hook was a paid CIA employee - it's all part of their plan. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 0

6:13pm Sat 30 Aug 14

NickBrt says...

Has Norman been taking cannabis to arrive at his idea?
Has Norman been taking cannabis to arrive at his idea? NickBrt
  • Score: -3

6:19pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Bluebeef says...

Farawaynow wrote:
Will this mean that UK Jews who volunteer for duty in the IDS also be classed as terrorists or ex SAS/SBS who work as contract killers for the multi- national corporations - thought not.
Note the words terrorist group.
I suppose you might argue that that describes BP or the IDS.
I don't condone the approach of the IDS but they are the legit army of a state.
[quote][p][bold]Farawaynow[/bold] wrote: Will this mean that UK Jews who volunteer for duty in the IDS also be classed as terrorists or ex SAS/SBS who work as contract killers for the multi- national corporations - thought not.[/p][/quote]Note the words terrorist group. I suppose you might argue that that describes BP or the IDS. I don't condone the approach of the IDS but they are the legit army of a state. Bluebeef
  • Score: -1

6:33pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

Farawaynow wrote:
Will this mean that UK Jews who volunteer for duty in the IDS also be classed as terrorists or ex SAS/SBS who work as contract killers for the multi- national corporations - thought not.
^^^utterly stupid comment^^^^^

Why is it that those who support terror groups like Hamas and ISIS have the monopoly on stupidity and ignorance?
[quote][p][bold]Farawaynow[/bold] wrote: Will this mean that UK Jews who volunteer for duty in the IDS also be classed as terrorists or ex SAS/SBS who work as contract killers for the multi- national corporations - thought not.[/p][/quote]^^^utterly stupid comment^^^^^ Why is it that those who support terror groups like Hamas and ISIS have the monopoly on stupidity and ignorance? ok,jared
  • Score: -31

6:41pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Ambo Guy says...

Roundbill wrote:
ok,jared wrote:
"new 'severe' terror alert"

Another triumph for multiculturalism.

If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.
Hi Stevo - love the new name.
Which one? ok,jarad, Nosfaratu, theargusisinformativ
e, Valentinian or Tyndall'sArmy ??
[quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: "new 'severe' terror alert" Another triumph for multiculturalism. If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.[/p][/quote]Hi Stevo - love the new name.[/p][/quote]Which one? ok,jarad, Nosfaratu, theargusisinformativ e, Valentinian or Tyndall'sArmy ?? Ambo Guy
  • Score: 60

7:11pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

Ambo Guy wrote:
Roundbill wrote:
ok,jared wrote:
"new 'severe' terror alert"

Another triumph for multiculturalism.

If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.
Hi Stevo - love the new name.
Which one? ok,jarad, Nosfaratu, theargusisinformativ

e, Valentinian or Tyndall'sArmy ??
Why would I need more than one profile to make the stupid people on here look stupid?

One is all I have.....one is all I need.
[quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: "new 'severe' terror alert" Another triumph for multiculturalism. If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.[/p][/quote]Hi Stevo - love the new name.[/p][/quote]Which one? ok,jarad, Nosfaratu, theargusisinformativ e, Valentinian or Tyndall'sArmy ??[/p][/quote]Why would I need more than one profile to make the stupid people on here look stupid? One is all I have.....one is all I need. ok,jared
  • Score: -45

7:13pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

Amazing, isn't it, how Ambo Guy turns up and the minus scores go through the floor?

Amazing how quiet Ambo went on this particular topic, after being exposed as a fool yet again.

http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news/11430903.
Motorcyclist_killed_
after_A29_crash_near
_Bury_village/#comme
ntsList
Amazing, isn't it, how Ambo Guy turns up and the minus scores go through the floor? Amazing how quiet Ambo went on this particular topic, after being exposed as a fool yet again. http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11430903. Motorcyclist_killed_ after_A29_crash_near _Bury_village/#comme ntsList ok,jared
  • Score: -42

7:36pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

Amazing, too, how AmboGuy 'changed' his username to Ambo Guy, given that the Argus doesn't allow a change of username.

He's using a different one because he got banned from this site.

No wonder he's angry at those people - they are probably the ones who kept reporting his abuse.
Amazing, too, how AmboGuy 'changed' his username to Ambo Guy, given that the Argus doesn't allow a change of username. He's using a different one because he got banned from this site. No wonder he's angry at those people - they are probably the ones who kept reporting his abuse. ok,jared
  • Score: -43

7:45pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Ambo Guy says...

Oh dear 3 posts in a row - the troll is angry! I guess you don't like being shown for the sad little liar that you are.

For what it's worth Stevo, everyone knew those names were you all along so I didn't exactly drop a bombshell there.

Now would you like us to all pretend those usernames are different people again? It's a sad little game but hey whatever makes you happy.
Oh dear 3 posts in a row - the troll is angry! I guess you don't like being shown for the sad little liar that you are. For what it's worth Stevo, everyone knew those names were you all along so I didn't exactly drop a bombshell there. Now would you like us to all pretend those usernames are different people again? It's a sad little game but hey whatever makes you happy. Ambo Guy
  • Score: 44

7:47pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

Ambo Guy wrote:
Oh dear 3 posts in a row - the troll is angry! I guess you don't like being shown for the sad little liar that you are.

For what it's worth Stevo, everyone knew those names were you all along so I didn't exactly drop a bombshell there.

Now would you like us to all pretend those usernames are different people again? It's a sad little game but hey whatever makes you happy.
Thank you for admitting you were banned.

That's something which has never happened to me.
[quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: Oh dear 3 posts in a row - the troll is angry! I guess you don't like being shown for the sad little liar that you are. For what it's worth Stevo, everyone knew those names were you all along so I didn't exactly drop a bombshell there. Now would you like us to all pretend those usernames are different people again? It's a sad little game but hey whatever makes you happy.[/p][/quote]Thank you for admitting you were banned. That's something which has never happened to me. ok,jared
  • Score: -35

7:49pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

So we have nearly 40 posts on this serious topic, then Ambo turns up to derail it.

Typical troll behaviour.
So we have nearly 40 posts on this serious topic, then Ambo turns up to derail it. Typical troll behaviour. ok,jared
  • Score: -40

8:27pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Ambo Guy says...

ok,jared wrote:
So we have nearly 40 posts on this serious topic, then Ambo turns up to derail it.

Typical troll behaviour.
You keep digging that hole for yourself Stevo.

Pmsl.
[quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: So we have nearly 40 posts on this serious topic, then Ambo turns up to derail it. Typical troll behaviour.[/p][/quote]You keep digging that hole for yourself Stevo. Pmsl. Ambo Guy
  • Score: 27

8:38pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

I cannot understand why these two need to be discussing the situation re terror measures.

http://www.standard.
co.uk/news/politics/
david-cameron-and-ni
ck-clegg-hold-talks-
to-discuss-counterte
rrorism-measures-as-
the-threat-of-an-att
ack-on-the-uk-become
s-highly-likely-9701
205.html

Clegg and his party should be being them 100%
I cannot understand why these two need to be discussing the situation re terror measures. http://www.standard. co.uk/news/politics/ david-cameron-and-ni ck-clegg-hold-talks- to-discuss-counterte rrorism-measures-as- the-threat-of-an-att ack-on-the-uk-become s-highly-likely-9701 205.html Clegg and his party should be being them 100% ok,jared
  • Score: -19

8:38pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

I cannot understand why these two need to be discussing the situation re terror measures.

http://www.standard.
co.uk/news/politics/
david-cameron-and-ni
ck-clegg-hold-talks-
to-discuss-counterte
rrorism-measures-as-
the-threat-of-an-att
ack-on-the-uk-become
s-highly-likely-9701
205.html

Clegg and his party should be behind them 100%
I cannot understand why these two need to be discussing the situation re terror measures. http://www.standard. co.uk/news/politics/ david-cameron-and-ni ck-clegg-hold-talks- to-discuss-counterte rrorism-measures-as- the-threat-of-an-att ack-on-the-uk-become s-highly-likely-9701 205.html Clegg and his party should be behind them 100% ok,jared
  • Score: -17

9:44pm Sat 30 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Ambo guy and Stevo **** - maybe a struggle to get any sense either way!!
Ambo guy and Stevo **** - maybe a struggle to get any sense either way!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -2

2:34am Sun 31 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Ambo guy and Stevo **** - maybe a struggle to get any sense either way!!
As if you ever post anything with bears a resemblance to reality.

You get a new one torn every time you post your pro-Hamas drivel.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: Ambo guy and Stevo **** - maybe a struggle to get any sense either way!![/p][/quote]As if you ever post anything with bears a resemblance to reality. You get a new one torn every time you post your pro-Hamas drivel. ok,jared
  • Score: -13

6:44am Sun 31 Aug 14

boo2005 says...

HJarrs wrote:
We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.
Nonsense!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: We have always faced terrorist attacks, be it Northern Ireland or other causes. But in recent years it feels as though the measures have been brought in to protect the ruling elite of an ever more centralised state.[/p][/quote]Nonsense! boo2005
  • Score: 3

7:07am Sun 31 Aug 14

boo2005 says...

boo2005 wrote:
'Tighten' DOH!
how could three idiots 'thumbs down' that, it was only a correction to my statement!......that is an absolute example of, in which direction this country is heading!.....glug, glug, glug!
[quote][p][bold]boo2005[/bold] wrote: 'Tighten' DOH![/p][/quote]how could three idiots 'thumbs down' that, it was only a correction to my statement!......that is an absolute example of, in which direction this country is heading!.....glug, glug, glug! boo2005
  • Score: -3

7:16am Sun 31 Aug 14

boo2005 says...

Farawaynow wrote:
Will this mean that UK Jews who volunteer for duty in the IDS also be classed as terrorists or ex SAS/SBS who work as contract killers for the multi- national corporations - thought not.
indeed it should, terrorism is just that, an empowering group of law-breakers, prepared to battle against the masses for their own beliefs, no matter what the cost in human life!......a scarily totally ignorant mentality from ant humaniod on the planet!.......it will survive where we wont!
[quote][p][bold]Farawaynow[/bold] wrote: Will this mean that UK Jews who volunteer for duty in the IDS also be classed as terrorists or ex SAS/SBS who work as contract killers for the multi- national corporations - thought not.[/p][/quote]indeed it should, terrorism is just that, an empowering group of law-breakers, prepared to battle against the masses for their own beliefs, no matter what the cost in human life!......a scarily totally ignorant mentality from ant humaniod on the planet!.......it will survive where we wont! boo2005
  • Score: -3

7:18am Sun 31 Aug 14

boo2005 says...

homewood wrote:
I guess with an ever increasing Muslim population across Europe, the risk is a small but significant number can turn violent at any time once radicalised.
'The risk is small?....I don't think so!....wake up, people!
[quote][p][bold]homewood[/bold] wrote: I guess with an ever increasing Muslim population across Europe, the risk is a small but significant number can turn violent at any time once radicalised.[/p][/quote]'The risk is small?....I don't think so!....wake up, people! boo2005
  • Score: 1

8:22am Sun 31 Aug 14

Valentinian says...

boo2005 wrote:
immediate response, totally secure our borders until we know more about this situation, if not, shoot on sight!
H a ha ha The voice of reason..... Where did you park that WHITE van...beside the old peoples Ambulance you and Ambo Guy ....lunatics both , hahaha
[quote][p][bold]boo2005[/bold] wrote: immediate response, totally secure our borders until we know more about this situation, if not, shoot on sight![/p][/quote]H a ha ha The voice of reason..... Where did you park that WHITE van...beside the old peoples Ambulance you and Ambo Guy ....lunatics both , hahaha Valentinian
  • Score: -10

8:29am Sun 31 Aug 14

Valentinian says...

ok,jared wrote:
Roundbill wrote:
ok,jared wrote:
"new 'severe' terror alert"

Another triumph for multiculturalism.

If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.
Hi Stevo - love the new name.
Believe it or not, more than one person in this area holds that view I expressed.
I for one..... Ambo Guy Bluenose and Boo 2005.... Ah what a trio!

I can smell the Uric Acid, BS, and cider Breath respectively from here....
[quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: "new 'severe' terror alert" Another triumph for multiculturalism. If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.[/p][/quote]Hi Stevo - love the new name.[/p][/quote]Believe it or not, more than one person in this area holds that view I expressed.[/p][/quote]I for one..... Ambo Guy Bluenose and Boo 2005.... Ah what a trio! I can smell the Uric Acid, BS, and cider Breath respectively from here.... Valentinian
  • Score: -14

11:00am Sun 31 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

NickBrt wrote:
Has Norman been taking cannabis to arrive at his idea?
More reasonable than Labour's surveillance state.

If Labour had their way we would have to show an identity card everywhere we went, under Labour we explosion of CCTV and the collaboration with the USA to spy on its own citizens. Goodness only knows what Labour is planning now.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Has Norman been taking cannabis to arrive at his idea?[/p][/quote]More reasonable than Labour's surveillance state. If Labour had their way we would have to show an identity card everywhere we went, under Labour we explosion of CCTV and the collaboration with the USA to spy on its own citizens. Goodness only knows what Labour is planning now. HJarrs
  • Score: -1

11:10am Sun 31 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
ourcoalition wrote:
We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza.

Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target.

And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK".

Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.
Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.
WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point.

From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.
[quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ourcoalition[/bold] wrote: We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza. Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target. And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK". Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.[/p][/quote]Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.[/p][/quote]WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point. From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you. HJarrs
  • Score: -1

11:22am Sun 31 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

HJarse wrote of Cyril:

"From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator."

Another unfounded accusation.

Cyril's comment:

"Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies."

shows that he would be the exact opposite of a collaborator, but HJarse was so intent on attacking someone personally he chose to ignore the facts.
HJarse wrote of Cyril: "From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator." Another unfounded accusation. Cyril's comment: "Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies." shows that he would be the exact opposite of a collaborator, but HJarse was so intent on attacking someone personally he chose to ignore the facts. ok,jared
  • Score: -3

12:29pm Sun 31 Aug 14

boo2005 says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
boo2005 wrote:
Bluebeef wrote:
Consider making it a criminal offence to join a terrorist group abroad as well as in the UK? I suppose this might have stopped the heroes who fought in Spain?

discuss
well, the word is descriminative, we must have the means for christ's sake, we still have one of the best security organisations in the world, what's the hold-up with stopping all of this nonsense!....deal most severely with the problem in THIS country, initially, that's what we should be bothered with!.....what's happening with the people we voted for, to act on our behalf, as a nation?.....tighted up and clamp down on this evil portion of life, an absolute sub-species if ever there was one!
And that is exactly what those in power and the media want you to believe.

Fear no one. The only terrorists to fight against are those in Parliament, in the USA government and the Israelli government.

The guy with a hook was a paid CIA employee - it's all part of their plan.
Well I'm afraid that I disagree with you!.....there we are, thank bloody sweet jesus that we live a democratic state!
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boo2005[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bluebeef[/bold] wrote: Consider making it a criminal offence to join a terrorist group abroad as well as in the UK? I suppose this might have stopped the heroes who fought in Spain? discuss[/p][/quote]well, the word is descriminative, we must have the means for christ's sake, we still have one of the best security organisations in the world, what's the hold-up with stopping all of this nonsense!....deal most severely with the problem in THIS country, initially, that's what we should be bothered with!.....what's happening with the people we voted for, to act on our behalf, as a nation?.....tighted up and clamp down on this evil portion of life, an absolute sub-species if ever there was one![/p][/quote]And that is exactly what those in power and the media want you to believe. Fear no one. The only terrorists to fight against are those in Parliament, in the USA government and the Israelli government. The guy with a hook was a paid CIA employee - it's all part of their plan.[/p][/quote]Well I'm afraid that I disagree with you!.....there we are, thank bloody sweet jesus that we live a democratic state! boo2005
  • Score: 3

12:40pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Ambo Guy says...

Valentinian wrote:
ok,jared wrote:
Roundbill wrote:
ok,jared wrote:
"new 'severe' terror alert"

Another triumph for multiculturalism.

If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.
Hi Stevo - love the new name.
Believe it or not, more than one person in this area holds that view I expressed.
I for one..... Ambo Guy Bluenose and Boo 2005.... Ah what a trio!

I can smell the Uric Acid, BS, and cider Breath respectively from here....
Oh dear. Poor attempt Stevo.
I guess the reason I and so many others just don't like you because you're a racist, sexist ignorant homophobe. That speaks volumes about your family and upbringing.
You're welcome.
[quote][p][bold]Valentinian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: "new 'severe' terror alert" Another triumph for multiculturalism. If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.[/p][/quote]Hi Stevo - love the new name.[/p][/quote]Believe it or not, more than one person in this area holds that view I expressed.[/p][/quote]I for one..... Ambo Guy Bluenose and Boo 2005.... Ah what a trio! I can smell the Uric Acid, BS, and cider Breath respectively from here....[/p][/quote]Oh dear. Poor attempt Stevo. I guess the reason I and so many others just don't like you because you're a racist, sexist ignorant homophobe. That speaks volumes about your family and upbringing. You're welcome. Ambo Guy
  • Score: 16

12:48pm Sun 31 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

"I guess the reason I and so many others just don't like you because you're a racist, sexist ignorant homophobe. "

Ambo is conveniently forgetting his anger at being called AmboGay, anger which arose because he hates gays.

He's also forgetting his racism against the English, merely for celebrating their national saint's day.

It's all here:

https://www.google.c
o.uk/search?q=AmboGu
y+argus+&ie=utf-8&oe
=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.
mozilla:en-US:offici
al&client=firefox-a&
channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr
&ei=Kuz8U5ntH4Lx8APm
8YDwBg

Let's hope he takes his trolling elsewhere, like the blackberry report or something.
"I guess the reason I and so many others just don't like you because you're a racist, sexist ignorant homophobe. " Ambo is conveniently forgetting his anger at being called AmboGay, anger which arose because he hates gays. He's also forgetting his racism against the English, merely for celebrating their national saint's day. It's all here: https://www.google.c o.uk/search?q=AmboGu y+argus+&ie=utf-8&oe =utf-8&aq=t&rls=org. mozilla:en-US:offici al&client=firefox-a& channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr &ei=Kuz8U5ntH4Lx8APm 8YDwBg Let's hope he takes his trolling elsewhere, like the blackberry report or something. ok,jared
  • Score: -17

12:50pm Sun 31 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

Valentinian wrote:
ok,jared wrote:
Roundbill wrote:
ok,jared wrote:
"new 'severe' terror alert"

Another triumph for multiculturalism.

If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.
Hi Stevo - love the new name.
Believe it or not, more than one person in this area holds that view I expressed.
I for one..... Ambo Guy Bluenose and Boo 2005.... Ah what a trio!

I can smell the Uric Acid, BS, and cider Breath respectively from here....
You're being unfair on Boo.

At least they are defenders of this country.

The other two you named plainly hate it.
[quote][p][bold]Valentinian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ok,jared[/bold] wrote: "new 'severe' terror alert" Another triumph for multiculturalism. If you turn parts of the country into something resembling Islamabad, you should expect the people there to behave as though it is.[/p][/quote]Hi Stevo - love the new name.[/p][/quote]Believe it or not, more than one person in this area holds that view I expressed.[/p][/quote]I for one..... Ambo Guy Bluenose and Boo 2005.... Ah what a trio! I can smell the Uric Acid, BS, and cider Breath respectively from here....[/p][/quote]You're being unfair on Boo. At least they are defenders of this country. The other two you named plainly hate it. ok,jared
  • Score: -19

12:51pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
ourcoalition wrote:
We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza.

Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target.

And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK".

Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.
Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.
WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point.

From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.
Let me put your memory right. At the start of WWII the hard left ( the Greens of their day) took their orders from Stalin as they had done in Spain. Stalin had formed a socialist alliance with Hitler against the capitalist West and the UK left fell into line. I know which side you would have been on.
Oh and another little lesson - Mosley was an ex Labour Minister.

I am a patriot who always stand up for Britain against its enemies.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ourcoalition[/bold] wrote: We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza. Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target. And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK". Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.[/p][/quote]Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.[/p][/quote]WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point. From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.[/p][/quote]Let me put your memory right. At the start of WWII the hard left ( the Greens of their day) took their orders from Stalin as they had done in Spain. Stalin had formed a socialist alliance with Hitler against the capitalist West and the UK left fell into line. I know which side you would have been on. Oh and another little lesson - Mosley was an ex Labour Minister. I am a patriot who always stand up for Britain against its enemies. Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: -9

1:04pm Sun 31 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

A search for 'AmboGay argus' reveals this classic admission from Ambo to being a "lying, prejudiced bigoted, racist pr!ck. "

11:38pm Tue 12 Aug 14

http://m.theargus.co
.uk/news/11404010.Ma
n_slashed_across_his
_chest_with_a_knife_
in_Brighton/?ref=mac


No wonder he was mad at stevo, lol.
A search for 'AmboGay argus' reveals this classic admission from Ambo to being a "lying, prejudiced bigoted, racist pr!ck. " 11:38pm Tue 12 Aug 14 http://m.theargus.co .uk/news/11404010.Ma n_slashed_across_his _chest_with_a_knife_ in_Brighton/?ref=mac No wonder he was mad at stevo, lol. ok,jared
  • Score: -12

1:18pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Ambo Guy says...

The hole m's getting ever deeper Stevo/ok,Jared.

Being a MFE supporter you should
Know what I meant.
The hole m's getting ever deeper Stevo/ok,Jared. Being a MFE supporter you should Know what I meant. Ambo Guy
  • Score: 11

1:21pm Sun 31 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

Ambo Guy wrote:
The hole m's getting ever deeper Stevo/ok,Jared.

Being a MFE supporter you should
Know what I meant.
Ambo accepts that he has no answer to the proof that he is a homophobe and that he's racist.

I'll sit back and wait for him to fail produce a single 'sexist' comment from me, which will prove once again what a liar he is.
[quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: The hole m's getting ever deeper Stevo/ok,Jared. Being a MFE supporter you should Know what I meant.[/p][/quote]Ambo accepts that he has no answer to the proof that he is a homophobe and that he's racist. I'll sit back and wait for him to fail produce a single 'sexist' comment from me, which will prove once again what a liar he is. ok,jared
  • Score: -11

2:13pm Sun 31 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
ourcoalition wrote:
We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza.

Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target.

And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK".

Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.
Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.
WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point.

From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.
Let me put your memory right. At the start of WWII the hard left ( the Greens of their day) took their orders from Stalin as they had done in Spain. Stalin had formed a socialist alliance with Hitler against the capitalist West and the UK left fell into line. I know which side you would have been on.
Oh and another little lesson - Mosley was an ex Labour Minister.

I am a patriot who always stand up for Britain against its enemies.
Let me put you right, most of the people you label left wing in and around WW2 including fighting in Spain were anti communist as they are today, the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party and anarchist movements of the day did not take their orders from the despot Stalin. Nor would a communist find a happy home in the Green Party given that it is democratic.

You however would have been a collaborator as lots of "patriots" were.
[quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ourcoalition[/bold] wrote: We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza. Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target. And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK". Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.[/p][/quote]Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.[/p][/quote]WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point. From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.[/p][/quote]Let me put your memory right. At the start of WWII the hard left ( the Greens of their day) took their orders from Stalin as they had done in Spain. Stalin had formed a socialist alliance with Hitler against the capitalist West and the UK left fell into line. I know which side you would have been on. Oh and another little lesson - Mosley was an ex Labour Minister. I am a patriot who always stand up for Britain against its enemies.[/p][/quote]Let me put you right, most of the people you label left wing in and around WW2 including fighting in Spain were anti communist as they are today, the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party and anarchist movements of the day did not take their orders from the despot Stalin. Nor would a communist find a happy home in the Green Party given that it is democratic. You however would have been a collaborator as lots of "patriots" were. HJarrs
  • Score: -5

2:14pm Sun 31 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
ourcoalition wrote:
We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza.

Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target.

And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK".

Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.
Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.
WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point.

From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.
Let me put your memory right. At the start of WWII the hard left ( the Greens of their day) took their orders from Stalin as they had done in Spain. Stalin had formed a socialist alliance with Hitler against the capitalist West and the UK left fell into line. I know which side you would have been on.
Oh and another little lesson - Mosley was an ex Labour Minister.

I am a patriot who always stand up for Britain against its enemies.
Let me put you right, most of the people you label left wing in and around WW2 including fighting in Spain were anti communist as they are today, the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party and anarchist movements of the day did not take their orders from the despot Stalin. Nor would a communist find a happy home in the Green Party given that it is democratic.

You however would have been a collaborator as lots of "patriots" were.
HJarse, will you kindly stop making accusations about how another poster would have behaved in 1940?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ourcoalition[/bold] wrote: We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza. Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target. And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK". Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.[/p][/quote]Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.[/p][/quote]WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point. From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.[/p][/quote]Let me put your memory right. At the start of WWII the hard left ( the Greens of their day) took their orders from Stalin as they had done in Spain. Stalin had formed a socialist alliance with Hitler against the capitalist West and the UK left fell into line. I know which side you would have been on. Oh and another little lesson - Mosley was an ex Labour Minister. I am a patriot who always stand up for Britain against its enemies.[/p][/quote]Let me put you right, most of the people you label left wing in and around WW2 including fighting in Spain were anti communist as they are today, the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party and anarchist movements of the day did not take their orders from the despot Stalin. Nor would a communist find a happy home in the Green Party given that it is democratic. You however would have been a collaborator as lots of "patriots" were.[/p][/quote]HJarse, will you kindly stop making accusations about how another poster would have behaved in 1940? ok,jared
  • Score: -3

5:42pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
ourcoalition wrote:
We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza.

Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target.

And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK".

Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.
Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.
WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point.

From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.
Let me put your memory right. At the start of WWII the hard left ( the Greens of their day) took their orders from Stalin as they had done in Spain. Stalin had formed a socialist alliance with Hitler against the capitalist West and the UK left fell into line. I know which side you would have been on.
Oh and another little lesson - Mosley was an ex Labour Minister.

I am a patriot who always stand up for Britain against its enemies.
Let me put you right, most of the people you label left wing in and around WW2 including fighting in Spain were anti communist as they are today, the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party and anarchist movements of the day did not take their orders from the despot Stalin. Nor would a communist find a happy home in the Green Party given that it is democratic.

You however would have been a collaborator as lots of "patriots" were.
As we now know leading trade unionists who fought in Spain and were prominent members of the Labour Party were in the pay of Stalin. Leading lights of the left were spying for Stalin. The Labour Party and press loved "Uncle Joe". Denis Healey was in the communist party but moved to Labour.
A tiny number of British POWs (less than 100) collaborated with the Nazis unlike the left wing Sinn Fein/IRA who collaborated with them wholesale as did Muslim extremists including the Mufti of Jerusalem.
Why don't you learn some history?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ourcoalition[/bold] wrote: We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza. Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target. And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK". Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.[/p][/quote]Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.[/p][/quote]WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point. From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.[/p][/quote]Let me put your memory right. At the start of WWII the hard left ( the Greens of their day) took their orders from Stalin as they had done in Spain. Stalin had formed a socialist alliance with Hitler against the capitalist West and the UK left fell into line. I know which side you would have been on. Oh and another little lesson - Mosley was an ex Labour Minister. I am a patriot who always stand up for Britain against its enemies.[/p][/quote]Let me put you right, most of the people you label left wing in and around WW2 including fighting in Spain were anti communist as they are today, the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party and anarchist movements of the day did not take their orders from the despot Stalin. Nor would a communist find a happy home in the Green Party given that it is democratic. You however would have been a collaborator as lots of "patriots" were.[/p][/quote]As we now know leading trade unionists who fought in Spain and were prominent members of the Labour Party were in the pay of Stalin. Leading lights of the left were spying for Stalin. The Labour Party and press loved "Uncle Joe". Denis Healey was in the communist party but moved to Labour. A tiny number of British POWs (less than 100) collaborated with the Nazis unlike the left wing Sinn Fein/IRA who collaborated with them wholesale as did Muslim extremists including the Mufti of Jerusalem. Why don't you learn some history? Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: 6

9:55pm Sun 31 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
ourcoalition wrote:
We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza.

Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target.

And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK".

Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.
Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.
WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point.

From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.
Let me put your memory right. At the start of WWII the hard left ( the Greens of their day) took their orders from Stalin as they had done in Spain. Stalin had formed a socialist alliance with Hitler against the capitalist West and the UK left fell into line. I know which side you would have been on.
Oh and another little lesson - Mosley was an ex Labour Minister.

I am a patriot who always stand up for Britain against its enemies.
Let me put you right, most of the people you label left wing in and around WW2 including fighting in Spain were anti communist as they are today, the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party and anarchist movements of the day did not take their orders from the despot Stalin. Nor would a communist find a happy home in the Green Party given that it is democratic.

You however would have been a collaborator as lots of "patriots" were.
As we now know leading trade unionists who fought in Spain and were prominent members of the Labour Party were in the pay of Stalin. Leading lights of the left were spying for Stalin. The Labour Party and press loved "Uncle Joe". Denis Healey was in the communist party but moved to Labour.
A tiny number of British POWs (less than 100) collaborated with the Nazis unlike the left wing Sinn Fein/IRA who collaborated with them wholesale as did Muslim extremists including the Mufti of Jerusalem.
Why don't you learn some history?
Sure, some people were in the pay of communists, after all the USSR thoroughly penetrated the establishment, including the security services, not known for their left wing views. Your problem is you paint "lefties" as communists, when from the Balkans to Spain, decent "lefties" who had no truck with the communists (as they were as great a threat to their liberty as the Nazis) paid with their lives. These groups were often supressed by the communists in preference to fighting the occupiers. This was the case in Spain, where the communists gained the upper hand against other groups such as the Anarchists. Ultimately, it was British "lefties" that won the war given that Labour won a landslide victory on the basis of nationalising everything in site and creating great institutions such as the NHS and the welfare state.

Inconvenient, but true.
[quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ourcoalition[/bold] wrote: We bomb the Afghans, the Iraqi's, the Libyans - we fund and arm Al-Qaida, we do the same for Sadaam to attack the Iranians in the 1980's, we fund and arm ISIS in Syria. We tell the Israeli's they are "naughty boys" for the massacre in Gaza. Then we wonder why the nice old UK might be a terrorist target. And, as a post above said - strange how the alert appears now, just after the UKIP defection. And to quote Theresa May - "there is no specific threat to the UK". Am I a bit cynical.....time will tell.[/p][/quote]Of course you are not cynical - you are a "useful idiot". Like so many lefties you always blame all the world's problems on the West and always side with our enemies. I am sure that you would have denounced WWII as a "capitalist war" just like the lefties did in 1939.[/p][/quote]WW2? I seem to remember that your "lefties" fought against fascism in Spain and again in WW2. I also seem to remember the Daily Mail being pro fascist at one point. From your posts, you would most likely have been a Mosleyite and interned as a collaborator. There are quite a few others that post on here that would be with you.[/p][/quote]Let me put your memory right. At the start of WWII the hard left ( the Greens of their day) took their orders from Stalin as they had done in Spain. Stalin had formed a socialist alliance with Hitler against the capitalist West and the UK left fell into line. I know which side you would have been on. Oh and another little lesson - Mosley was an ex Labour Minister. I am a patriot who always stand up for Britain against its enemies.[/p][/quote]Let me put you right, most of the people you label left wing in and around WW2 including fighting in Spain were anti communist as they are today, the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party and anarchist movements of the day did not take their orders from the despot Stalin. Nor would a communist find a happy home in the Green Party given that it is democratic. You however would have been a collaborator as lots of "patriots" were.[/p][/quote]As we now know leading trade unionists who fought in Spain and were prominent members of the Labour Party were in the pay of Stalin. Leading lights of the left were spying for Stalin. The Labour Party and press loved "Uncle Joe". Denis Healey was in the communist party but moved to Labour. A tiny number of British POWs (less than 100) collaborated with the Nazis unlike the left wing Sinn Fein/IRA who collaborated with them wholesale as did Muslim extremists including the Mufti of Jerusalem. Why don't you learn some history?[/p][/quote]Sure, some people were in the pay of communists, after all the USSR thoroughly penetrated the establishment, including the security services, not known for their left wing views. Your problem is you paint "lefties" as communists, when from the Balkans to Spain, decent "lefties" who had no truck with the communists (as they were as great a threat to their liberty as the Nazis) paid with their lives. These groups were often supressed by the communists in preference to fighting the occupiers. This was the case in Spain, where the communists gained the upper hand against other groups such as the Anarchists. Ultimately, it was British "lefties" that won the war given that Labour won a landslide victory on the basis of nationalising everything in site and creating great institutions such as the NHS and the welfare state. Inconvenient, but true. HJarrs
  • Score: -1

10:04pm Sun 31 Aug 14

ok,jared says...

HJarse wrote:

"Ultimately, it was British "lefties" that won the war given that Labour won a landslide victory on the basis of nationalising everything in site and creating great institutions such as the NHS and the welfare state.

Inconvenient, but true."

Not that true at all, in fact.

The Welfare State in England can be traced back to the Tudors, and various Poor Laws continued and enhanced that process. The Liberal Party can claim to have created the modern Welfare State immediately prior to WWI.

The NHS isn't a great institution. It is ramshackle, riddled with incompetence, and over-managed. Many people who can afford to go private, and companies such as BUPA wouldn't need to exist if the NHS was any good.
HJarse wrote: "Ultimately, it was British "lefties" that won the war given that Labour won a landslide victory on the basis of nationalising everything in site and creating great institutions such as the NHS and the welfare state. Inconvenient, but true." Not that true at all, in fact. The Welfare State in England can be traced back to the Tudors, and various Poor Laws continued and enhanced that process. The Liberal Party can claim to have created the modern Welfare State immediately prior to WWI. The NHS isn't a great institution. It is ramshackle, riddled with incompetence, and over-managed. Many people who can afford to go private, and companies such as BUPA wouldn't need to exist if the NHS was any good. ok,jared
  • Score: -5

8:38pm Mon 1 Sep 14

hubby says...

IratusFurcifer wrote:
Let them stay in the country they are willing to die for, do not allow them back!
It won't happen though will it?
Britain has a major storm approaching.
[quote][p][bold]IratusFurcifer[/bold] wrote: Let them stay in the country they are willing to die for, do not allow them back![/p][/quote]It won't happen though will it? Britain has a major storm approaching. hubby
  • Score: 0

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