Grime and punishment - Brighton police use CCTV to catch messy officers

Grime and punishment

Grime and punishment

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Police are installing a CCTV camera in their station kitchen to catch colleagues who do not wash up.

Officers in Brighton have been told to clean up their act by the city police’s top brass in a campaign dubbed Grimewatch by station wags.

The fourth floor kitchen at the police station in John Street has been plagued by rubbish, litter, spilled food and dirty crockery since a recent refurbishment.

Police rank and file were told on Tuesday about the plan for a camera to keep the facilities under surveillance - but the decision instantly sparked opposition from some officers.

Brighton’s new police commander, Chief Superintendent Graham Bartlett, said the camera should be a deterrent to stop people leaving a mess.

Ch Supt Bartlett said: “Eight hundred divisional police officers and staff have access to a new kitchen and rest room facility at Brighton police station.

”Unfortunately a small minority of people have been misusing the facilities which were provided by public money.

“I have therefore had to reluctantly take the decision that, in order to protect these facilities, we will use an overt camera to disuade people from spoiling the facility for others.”

Des Turner, MP for Brighton Kemptown, said: “Maybe it’ll encourage the police to mend their ways in the kitchen.

“This gives a new meaning to the phrase, the Filth.”

The Argus was tipped off by an anonymous text message which read: “What a waste of public money.

"Tough on crime, tougher on causers of grime.”

Ch Supt Bartlett said damage to the kitchen would waste money meant for policing.

He said: “I'd much rather be spending our police budget on neighbourhood policing than on any repairs which may arise in the future.

"No additional money was spent on the camera as it was already owned by Sussex Police."

Brian Stockham, chairman of Sussex Police Federation, which acts as the officers’ union, said representatives have raised the issue and plan to confront managers.

He said: “We have had representations made to us that this is happening. It will be dealt with with local management by our local representatives.

“At first sight it seems somewhat excessive.

“The mind boggles as to what abuses of facilities could be monitored by the service in future.”

He said management instead of surveillance should be used to bring officers into line.

He said: “Any abuse of facilities needs to be addressed by local supervision and management getting to grips with whatever the problem may be.

“To use CCTV as a way of addressing a problems seems to me excessive.

“It is a time-consuming device which at first sight appears a modern solution but does involve time and effort to use.”

David Lepper, MP for Brighton Pavilion, said: “It seems a bit over the top to me.

“CCTV plays a valuable role in deterring and catching criminals.

“I’m not sure they need to go as far as CCTV cameras.

“I would think the public conscience of each police officer should be enough.

“Surely they could draw up a rota?”

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11:51pm Wed 18 Feb 09

Charlie C says...

Maybe they should dish out £80 fixed penalties.
Maybe they should dish out £80 fixed penalties. Charlie C
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12:05am Thu 19 Feb 09

NoWaySeriously says...

waste
of
money
waste of money NoWaySeriously
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12:12am Thu 19 Feb 09

RAS Putin says...

The surveillance state comes home to roost.
The surveillance state comes home to roost. RAS Putin
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12:40am Thu 19 Feb 09

MoreMikey says...

"...the decision instantly sparked opposition from some officers."

Ah. They can dish it out (groan) but they can't take it?
"...the decision instantly sparked opposition from some officers." Ah. They can dish it out (groan) but they can't take it? MoreMikey
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1:18am Thu 19 Feb 09

rhinofish says...

“To use CCTV as a way of addressing a problems seems to me excessive.

“It is a time-consuming device which at first sight appears a modern solution but does involve time and effort to use.”

Nice one Bartlett!

Is it ok to use that in defence in court now?

“To use CCTV as a way of addressing a problems seems to me excessive."

Cool!
“To use CCTV as a way of addressing a problems seems to me excessive. “It is a time-consuming device which at first sight appears a modern solution but does involve time and effort to use.” Nice one Bartlett! Is it ok to use that in defence in court now? “To use CCTV as a way of addressing a problems seems to me excessive." Cool! rhinofish
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6:54am Thu 19 Feb 09

The Garden Slug says...

It will be traffic plod - odds on
It will be traffic plod - odds on The Garden Slug
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6:59am Thu 19 Feb 09

stan bailey says...

What happened to police canteens? Why are the police wasting time cooking and cleaning?
What happened to police canteens? Why are the police wasting time cooking and cleaning? stan bailey
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8:33am Thu 19 Feb 09

Carl Bugenhagen says...

We can come and stake out the kitchen and photograph them ourselves. We will then arrest anyone copper who tries to photograph us in return. What a bunch of idiots plod are, they get all they deserve.
We can come and stake out the kitchen and photograph them ourselves. We will then arrest anyone copper who tries to photograph us in return. What a bunch of idiots plod are, they get all they deserve. Carl Bugenhagen
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8:45am Thu 19 Feb 09

Osama bin there says...

But who is paying for it? The poor old taxpayer yet again. Waste of money. If they aren't bothered if their kitchen is sh1t, let them be pigs in sh1t. Why should the taxpayer pay for totally unnecessary cameras?
But who is paying for it? The poor old taxpayer yet again. Waste of money. If they aren't bothered if their kitchen is sh1t, let them be pigs in sh1t. Why should the taxpayer pay for totally unnecessary cameras? Osama bin there
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9:32am Thu 19 Feb 09

Dribbler says...

A job for the PCSO's at last! They could be useful... as cleaners to allow the 800, (are there that many police in the area) who have access to the kitchen to find out where the streets are and get out and do the job they are paid for. Any spare cash should be spent on getting them house trained too.
A job for the PCSO's at last! They could be useful... as cleaners to allow the 800, (are there that many police in the area) who have access to the kitchen to find out where the streets are and get out and do the job they are paid for. Any spare cash should be spent on getting them house trained too. Dribbler
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11:20am Thu 19 Feb 09

Ming says...

pigs like mess :0)







pigs like mess :0) Ming
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11:43am Thu 19 Feb 09

Dave From Fishersgate says...

If fresh straw is put in their house (which it should be) they keep their house very clean, they do not urinate or defecate in their house. So straw in their house will last quite a while. In fact, pigs prefer to sleep on clean dry straw at night.

I get upset when I see people putting pigs in dirty muddy houses, Pigs DO NOT like this.
If fresh straw is put in their house (which it should be) they keep their house very clean, they do not urinate or defecate in their house. So straw in their house will last quite a while. In fact, pigs prefer to sleep on clean dry straw at night. I get upset when I see people putting pigs in dirty muddy houses, Pigs DO NOT like this. Dave From Fishersgate
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11:50am Thu 19 Feb 09

Pontop Pike says...

Ming wrote:
pigs like mess :0)
Very clever Ming! ( me thinks not )
[quote][p][bold]Ming[/bold] wrote: pigs like mess :0) [/p][/quote]Very clever Ming! ( me thinks not ) Pontop Pike
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11:51am Thu 19 Feb 09

sussex2 says...

What a bunch of idiots to even think about such a thing.
Goes to show how these people place such reliance on spying....what a sad day!
What a bunch of idiots to even think about such a thing. Goes to show how these people place such reliance on spying....what a sad day! sussex2
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11:57am Thu 19 Feb 09

bibble says...

Oooh. CCTV "is a time-consuming device which at first sight appears a modern solution but does involve time and effort to use.”

So who is spending all the time to monitor all the public-watching CCTV cameras that are everywhere.


And “The mind boggles as to what abuses of facilities could be monitored by the service in future.” Well, it was reported yesterday that the police want to FORCE pubs to video every customer, and make that available on demand.

If the police don't like being watched (cos they aren't doing anything wrong), then they should have a better understanding of how a lot of the public feel.
Oooh. CCTV "is a time-consuming device which at first sight appears a modern solution but does involve time and effort to use.” So who is spending all the time to monitor all the public-watching CCTV cameras that are everywhere. And “The mind boggles as to what abuses of facilities could be monitored by the service in future.” Well, it was reported yesterday that the police want to FORCE pubs to video every customer, and make that available on demand. If the police don't like being watched (cos they aren't doing anything wrong), then they should have a better understanding of how a lot of the public feel. bibble
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12:19pm Thu 19 Feb 09

Nic Brighton says...

What a joke and a total waste of money and time.
All the problem we have in this country, all those problems what police are supposed to deal with yet what the big bosses have been discussing is their messy kitchen???!!!

Get paid plenty to do that i bet!
What a joke and a total waste of money and time. All the problem we have in this country, all those problems what police are supposed to deal with yet what the big bosses have been discussing is their messy kitchen???!!! Get paid plenty to do that i bet! Nic Brighton
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12:30pm Thu 19 Feb 09

Dickens Cider says...

I see they already own the camera, so no extra expense there then. Yeah someone will have to look at it for the first few weeks but that's probably offset by the cost of man-hours that would have to be spent clearing up the kitchen.

I understand how annoying it is but wonder how they will pick people out of the 800, lol. We have the same problem in our kitchen at work, it's disgusting so I can understand why they want to do something about it!

It may be a public service but they are all people too, and I think they deserve a clean kitchen!
I see they already own the camera, so no extra expense there then. Yeah someone will have to look at it for the first few weeks but that's probably offset by the cost of man-hours that would have to be spent clearing up the kitchen. I understand how annoying it is but wonder how they will pick people out of the 800, lol. We have the same problem in our kitchen at work, it's disgusting so I can understand why they want to do something about it! It may be a public service but they are all people too, and I think they deserve a clean kitchen! Dickens Cider
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12:58pm Thu 19 Feb 09

John B2 says...

It's funny- They like watching US (didn't you know, we're ALL potential criminals just waiting to do something wrong if we're weren't watched 24/7?) but when they get a dose of their own medicine it's another story.
It's funny- They like watching US (didn't you know, we're ALL potential criminals just waiting to do something wrong if we're weren't watched 24/7?) but when they get a dose of their own medicine it's another story. John B2
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1:00pm Thu 19 Feb 09

Ming says...

Pontop Pike wrote:
Ming wrote: pigs like mess :0)
Very clever Ming! ( me thinks not )
its not a story worthy of intellect

such-help
[quote][p][bold]Pontop Pike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ming[/bold] wrote: pigs like mess :0) [/p][/quote]Very clever Ming! ( me thinks not )[/p][/quote]its not a story worthy of intellect such-help Ming
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1:06pm Thu 19 Feb 09

Granny says...

Can't Osama bin there read? It Says"No additional money was spent on the camera as it was already owned by the police"!
Can't Osama bin there read? It Says"No additional money was spent on the camera as it was already owned by the police"! Granny
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1:26pm Thu 19 Feb 09

gingerninja says...

As a member of staff at the station, I can honestly say that the state that some officers leave the kitchens in is shocking. However, as we have no canteen facilities and officers are often working ridiculously long hours and have minimal time to eat, I can almost understand it. We used to have a bar with some hot food and sandwiches provided but no-one really used it as the food was awful. If decent cooked food was provided at reasonable prices, the situation would greatly improve I've no doubt.
As a member of staff at the station, I can honestly say that the state that some officers leave the kitchens in is shocking. However, as we have no canteen facilities and officers are often working ridiculously long hours and have minimal time to eat, I can almost understand it. We used to have a bar with some hot food and sandwiches provided but no-one really used it as the food was awful. If decent cooked food was provided at reasonable prices, the situation would greatly improve I've no doubt. gingerninja
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2:09pm Thu 19 Feb 09

Carl Bugenhagen says...

Are you saying the Police can't be trusted to follow basic rules that are There For The Good Of Everyone, even of hygiene?

You couldn't make this story up.
Are you saying the Police can't be trusted to follow basic rules that are There For The Good Of Everyone, even of hygiene? You couldn't make this story up. Carl Bugenhagen
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3:25pm Thu 19 Feb 09

pigletstrotters says...

gingerninja wrote:
As a member of staff at the station, I can honestly say that the state that some officers leave the kitchens in is shocking. However, as we have no canteen facilities and officers are often working ridiculously long hours and have minimal time to eat, I can almost understand it. We used to have a bar with some hot food and sandwiches provided but no-one really used it as the food was awful. If decent cooked food was provided at reasonable prices, the situation would greatly improve I've no doubt.
What ****...you coppers have dopey wives at home who do everything for you ,,so why would washing up be something you should do ,,l suspect its enough that you manage to throw your bowls in the sink ,
[quote][p][bold]gingerninja[/bold] wrote: As a member of staff at the station, I can honestly say that the state that some officers leave the kitchens in is shocking. However, as we have no canteen facilities and officers are often working ridiculously long hours and have minimal time to eat, I can almost understand it. We used to have a bar with some hot food and sandwiches provided but no-one really used it as the food was awful. If decent cooked food was provided at reasonable prices, the situation would greatly improve I've no doubt.[/p][/quote]What ****...you coppers have dopey wives at home who do everything for you ,,so why would washing up be something you should do ,,l suspect its enough that you manage to throw your bowls in the sink , pigletstrotters
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3:40pm Thu 19 Feb 09

Jonathon says...

This this really news?
This this really news? Jonathon
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3:42pm Thu 19 Feb 09

feline1 says...

I trust they will also be installing CCTV in the loos so they can check if officers are wiping their bums properly?
I trust they will also be installing CCTV in the loos so they can check if officers are wiping their bums properly? feline1
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4:35pm Thu 19 Feb 09

Carl Bugenhagen says...

It is news Jonathan, because we live in the number one surveillance society in the EU and one of the worst in the world - look at Policestate.co.uk - and here we have the Police who avail themselves of every opportunity to monitor us ('them', to use the Police technical term)complaining when the cameras are turned on them for once. This from the same force that were intimidating innocent visitors to the Cowley Club only last week. The hypocrisy is astounding.

And thanks to whoever is reporting all this is the national papers, please make the link to the Cowley Club event and put some pressure on Sussex Police.
It is news Jonathan, because we live in the number one surveillance society in the EU and one of the worst in the world - look at Policestate.co.uk - and here we have the Police who avail themselves of every opportunity to monitor us ('them', to use the Police technical term)complaining when the cameras are turned on them for once. This from the same force that were intimidating innocent visitors to the Cowley Club only last week. The hypocrisy is astounding. And thanks to whoever is reporting all this is the national papers, please make the link to the Cowley Club event and put some pressure on Sussex Police. Carl Bugenhagen
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5:58pm Thu 19 Feb 09

Jim BB says...

And that's why there are no police on the streets - too busy watching their dirty crockery. Too many crocks and all that.
And that's why there are no police on the streets - too busy watching their dirty crockery. Too many crocks and all that. Jim BB
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1:19am Fri 20 Feb 09

greeg says...

Great,the cops have found a new way of wasting tax payers money.Can we appear at the station and demand to mull over the footage to see the wrongdoers?
Great,the cops have found a new way of wasting tax payers money.Can we appear at the station and demand to mull over the footage to see the wrongdoers? greeg
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9:07am Fri 20 Feb 09

davyboy says...

The Garden Slug wrote:
It will be traffic plod - odds on
as usual slug has a dig at the traffic police. why should it be them all the time?? more likely the sit at their desks C.I.D.
[quote][p][bold]The Garden Slug[/bold] wrote: It will be traffic plod - odds on[/p][/quote]as usual slug has a dig at the traffic police. why should it be them all the time?? more likely the sit at their desks C.I.D. davyboy
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