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Police criminals keep their jobs (From The Argus)
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Sussex's police criminals keep their jobs
10:30pm Wednesday 11th March 2009 in News By Andy Tate and Samuel Underwood
A policeman convicted of assault twice has been allowed to stay on the beat in Sussex.
Police bosses revealed that the shamed Sergeant was allowed to keep his job - despite having committed a pair of assaults.
The unnamed officer, who was handed two 180-hour community punishment orders for his crimes, was sacked by the force after his conviction but then reinstated by the Home Office after an appeal.
Sussex Police also admitted a further eight officers were still on duty despite being convicted of nine offences between them, including assault, careless or reckless driving, driving without due care or attention, failing to report an incident and speeding.
The shocking figures, published by the Liberal Democrats, who obtained the information from police forces across the country under the Freedom of Information Act, revealed that one PC had been convicted of having sex with a child under 16.
After his court case he was given a conditional discharge for three years, made to pay costs of £55 and placed on the sex offenders’ register for seven years.
A disciplinary tribunal was arranged but the officer resigned before the hearing.
A Chief Inspector from Sussex was jailed for three years for theft, forgery and deception but also quit the Force before his disciplinary hearing.
Over the last eight years another three officers have been dismissed after being convicted of drink driving.
Across the country more than 1,000 serving police officers were shown to have criminal convictions.
Lionel Barnard, the chairman of Sussex Police Authority, said: “These figures need to be kept in perspective.
“We are not talking about vast numbers of officers but just an average of about one a year.
“These officers would have been through the proper disciplinary procedure and like the rest of us can have a spent conviction and keep their jobs.”
A spokeswoman for Sussex Police said: “Sussex Police prides itself on the professionalism of its officers and treats any convictions received by them extremely seriously.
“There are currently in excess of 3,000 serving officers and in the past eight years only eight officers have remained serving following any convictions.
“The numbers are therefore very small and, in each case, the individual circumstances have been the subject of careful consideration beforehand.”
Comments(23)
bibble
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11:46pm Wed 11 Mar 09
kkj
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1:30am Thu 12 Mar 09
Did our friends the Liberal Democrats find out the nature of the assaults? Has anyone from our esteemed local paper asked? (BTW I thought ben parsons was the crime reporter??)
As for the other offences - the only one I can possibly see as warranting losing one's job for is failing to report an incident - but then again, we don't know what 'incident' do we?
Finbar 1
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5:28am Thu 12 Mar 09
D360 wrote:I wonder what job you do... Night shift!
feline1 wrote:You, like anyone else that makes sweeping generalisations, are an idiot. Very few have tasers and very few can authorise the use of "special anti-terrorism powers"
Well, there's a few good apples in the barrel, but let's face it, they're a tiny minority. Most police are bigoted thugs, armed with tasers and special "Anti-Terrorism Powers". Send them to Northern Ireland to deliver a few pizzas.
As KKJ has said above there is little detail about the offenses and most of them seem to be what people like bibble are always telling us aren't real offences anyway, ie speeding
Make sure you clean the kitchen,
after all it is under video surveillance.
D360
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6:28am Thu 12 Mar 09
Finbar 1 wrote:nope, just in a different time zone
D360 wrote:I wonder what job you do... Night shift! Make sure you clean the kitchen, after all it is under video surveillance.feline1 wrote: Well, there's a few good apples in the barrel, but let's face it, they're a tiny minority. Most police are bigoted thugs, armed with tasers and special "Anti-Terrorism Powers". Send them to Northern Ireland to deliver a few pizzas.You, like anyone else that makes sweeping generalisations, are an idiot. Very few have tasers and very few can authorise the use of "special anti-terrorism powers" As KKJ has said above there is little detail about the offenses and most of them seem to be what people like bibble are always telling us aren't real offences anyway, ie speeding
Cooldude
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8:42am Thu 12 Mar 09
The Garden Slug
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8:56am Thu 12 Mar 09
The Police really should be beyond reproach, instead they are a backward bunch of little Hitlers who think they know more than the average joe. They dont
tonyinbrighton
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9:19am Thu 12 Mar 09
bibble
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9:45am Thu 12 Mar 09
kkj wrote:These are criminal convictions. As such, even the usually complicit judges have found their mates in the police guilty.
Nice bit of scaremongering from the rgus here. I'd like a bit more information on the Sergeant's two assauklts tghough - anyone can claim "assault" for the merest thing - i threaten to break your legs - thats assault. I put my hand on your shoulder - thats assault. I give you a clip round the ear - thats assault.
Did our friends the Liberal Democrats find out the nature of the assaults? Has anyone from our esteemed local paper asked? (BTW I thought ben parsons was the crime reporter??)
As for the other offences - the only one I can possibly see as warranting losing one's job for is failing to report an incident - but then again, we don't know what 'incident' do we?
bibble
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9:48am Thu 12 Mar 09
geewhizz
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11:17am Thu 12 Mar 09
Cooldude wrote:great idea!
To solve the problem of prison overcrowding, why not make those convicted of serious offences serve in the Police Force. That would keep them off the streets.
and there'd be no fear of any of them escaping as their hands would be forever tied with red tape..
Ronald
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11:43am Thu 12 Mar 09
bibble
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11:53am Thu 12 Mar 09
Ronald wrote:All those police officers in "your day" who assaulted people in the cells are cowards and thugs. They should all have been arrested, charged, held in custody until their trial, and if found guilty should have received long prison sentances.
What a lot of pussyfooting pc. It makes criminals laugh! In my day (1960s) the ungodly regularly got a battering in police cells if they deserved it. All covered by the magic phrase "Resisted arrest Your Honour!" Knowing smile from The Beak, and an extra six months on the sentence! Those were the good days! We now have 'tissue' police.
And you rightly mention the collusion between the police and the judges, and that continues to this day. The judges, and particularly the magistracy, are in the pocket of the police. That is not justice. And it is a reason why there are still amny cases of wrongful conviction.
There are a lot of people in prison because of policemen who lie or are incompetent. One such man may be released next week after 27 years in prison.
If you think that the police should assault people and give a nod and a wink to a judge, why don't you move to Zimbabwe? You would feel right at home.
Ronald
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12:36pm Thu 12 Mar 09
kumquat
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1:31pm Thu 12 Mar 09
Finbar 1
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2:26pm Thu 12 Mar 09
Ronald wrote:Friend of mine was beaten up in a cell in Hove, he was 14 at the time this was in the 70s, it was a big fat bullying plod,
What a lot of pussyfooting pc. It makes criminals laugh! In my day (1960s) the ungodly regularly got a battering in police cells if they deserved it. All covered by the magic phrase "Resisted arrest Your Honour!" Knowing smile from The Beak, and an extra six months on the sentence! Those were the good days! We now have 'tissue' police.
I wonder what he's doing now,should be sent to the Hague for due sentence!
Ronald
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3:12pm Thu 12 Mar 09
bibble
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3:13pm Thu 12 Mar 09
Ronald wrote:If you are aware of the police assaulting people you should go and report it. That is if you believe in the rule of law.
Oh Bibble, Bibble you poor looney lefty. You're just the sort we loved!
From your comments it is apparent that you think the police are entitlted to beat people up. That doesn't surprise me. A lot of police and their friends do.
Ronald
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3:19pm Thu 12 Mar 09
bibble
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3:34pm Thu 12 Mar 09
Ronald wrote:I read your approval of police beatings. Please move to Zimbabwe where you will feel right at home.
Read the above Bibble, and get a (proper) life.
You obviously have no sense of right and wrong.
GreenGiant
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5:15pm Thu 12 Mar 09
kumquat wrote:There is already CCTV in police cells! But they never work or there not turned on!!
They should put CCTV in the cells. That woudl catch them. CCTV is great.
alfieconnection
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5:33pm Thu 12 Mar 09
Ronald wrote:so its ok for the police to beat people up, thats fine, but let me tell you, when they do get convicted and are banged up, its so funny how they try to to keep it a secret that they are not old bill, it doesnt take long for them to get sussed, and what a lovely surprise awaits them, its called payback time.
Oh Bibble, Bibble you poor looney lefty. You're just the sort we loved!
feline1
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6:10pm Thu 12 Mar 09
Dave At Home says...
11:12pm Wed 11 Mar 09