Measles cases in Brighton and Hove are still on the rise (From The Argus)

Shame it would probably breach human rights if schools refused to allow non-vaccinated children in - same for universities as well.

Selfish parents; relying on other parents vaccinating their kids to stop an epidemic. when there too many selfish parents you get an epidemic

what? If your children are vaccinated what do you're so afraid. I'm glad the human rights exist, but will it be enough to stop the force medication of our water?, and what would be the panicking excuses to force us to be microchipped from birth?

"If your children are vaccinated what do you're so afraid"

speak ye english
you dont make sense

you trying to say if your vacinated why are you so afraid?

thing is some people still believe that jabs are dangerous or cause side affects
when there child is in hspital with complications then we can we told you so

unfortunately common sense doesnt come into it just the threat of the word autism to stop a person innoculating there child

Txa wrote:
what? If your children are vaccinated what do you're so afraid. I'm glad the human rights exist, but will it be enough to stop the force medication of our water?, and what would be the panicking excuses to force us to be microchipped from birth?

My child has only had the first jab for MMR and will not, therefore, have full immunity until he is old enough. In the past, what would have protected him in this interim stage is herd immunity - the result of a mass programme of immunisation. If you choose not to vaccinate you're child it isn't just them that's at risk - it also threatens many infants who do not yet have immunity despite their parent's intentions to do what is patently the right thing and immunise thier children.
Just as you feel that it is your right to refuse the MMR jab on your child's behalf (even though it is clearly not in their interest), I feel it is my right to be protected from the offspring of MMR refusniks who may be carrying measles.

It's well demonstrated that mass panicking is very effective on govt. campaigns when the public aren't listening.

I assure you that if you have a child with the devastating effects (sometime for life)of some the vaccines, then you will think differently. Why if the vaccines are so safe, there are not a back-up with a compensation scheme.

If you want to be protect from your imaginary public contact threat I advise you to live in isolation. The whole life is a risk.

People have very short memories - vaccinations had virtually eliminated many serious diseases. Now superstitious ill-informed mothers are helping re-introduce diseases by refusing the MMR vaccine, even tho its detractors have been thoroughly discredited! They are selfish because their hysteria is putting innocent children at risk! It makes my blood boil!

Same for freddo, wear your mouth mask and gloves, get some for your children as well. ; )

Txa wrote:
what? If your children are vaccinated what do you're so afraid. I'm glad the human rights exist, but will it be enough to stop the force medication of our water?, and what would be the panicking excuses to force us to be microchipped from birth?

Do you drink out of puddles then?

Txa wrote:
It's well demonstrated that mass panicking is very effective on govt. campaigns when the public aren't listening.

I assure you that if you have a child with the devastating effects (sometime for life)of some the vaccines, then you will think differently. Why if the vaccines are so safe, there are not a back-up with a compensation scheme.

If you want to be protect from your imaginary public contact threat I advise you to live in isolation. The whole life is a risk.

wtf are you talking about txa? Perhaps you could talk me through these 'devastating effects' - apart from autism of course, which has been thoroughly discounted. My children have both had the mmr jab becuase I am more worried about the effects of them contracting measles or mumps which is of course easy to contract...

Well, some of us are more worry about the effects of the vaccines (One of my children has already experimented that), and now I prefer take the risks for them to have the decease. Do you know, if your kids had any of the deceases of the MMR, still you have to vaccine them from the full combined vaccine? It doesn't make sense, the govt. don't want to listen and the attitude is totally wrong. We don't trust them anymore. Cocktail of chemicals inject into our children's body, without being tested long enough.
M,M,R are not life threatening deceases, get that.

stan bailey wrote:

Txa wrote: what? If your children are vaccinated what do you're so afraid. I'm glad the human rights exist, but will it be enough to stop the force medication of our water?, and what would be the panicking excuses to force us to be microchipped from birth?

Do you drink out of puddles then?

How did you guess that?, and so many times from puddles in wild streams and springs every time I've got that wonderful opportunity. I've never forgot to drink, bathing in the wild streams, lakes trekking on the Alpes, Himalayas etc, difficult to resist, I assure you!

Txa wrote:

stan bailey wrote:

Txa wrote: what? If your children are vaccinated what do you're so afraid. I'm glad the human rights exist, but will it be enough to stop the force medication of our water?, and what would be the panicking excuses to force us to be microchipped from birth?

Do you drink out of puddles then?

How did you guess that?, and so many times from puddles in wild streams and springs every time I've got that wonderful opportunity. I've never forgot to drink, bathing in the wild streams, lakes trekking on the Alpes, Himalayas etc, difficult to resist, I assure you!

well it is sunny today, so its the rain butt then is it?

I've had to take a week off work covered in spots and feeling lousy because someone didn't care if their child passed on their spotty infection.

I've spent the weekend in bed because I feel so ill and won't go out until all the spots have gone as I do not want to risk passing this on to anyone else.

It's hand, foot and mouth disease (seriously!) which has killed 36 children in China this month (it can lead to meningitis and encephalitis) and can cause pregnant women to miscarry. I'm not going to risk that happening to anyone so am staying at home.

If only parents who have children with measles were as responsible.

stan bailey wrote:

Txa wrote:

stan bailey wrote:

Txa wrote: what? If your children are vaccinated what do you're so afraid. I'm glad the human rights exist, but will it be enough to stop the force medication of our water?, and what would be the panicking excuses to force us to be microchipped from birth?

Do you drink out of puddles then?

How did you guess that?, and so many times from puddles in wild streams and springs every time I've got that wonderful opportunity. I've never forgot to drink, bathing in the wild streams, lakes trekking on the Alpes, Himalayas etc, difficult to resist, I assure you!

well it is sunny today, so its the rain butt then is it?

; )

Jim BB wrote:
I've had to take a week off work covered in spots and feeling lousy because someone didn't care if their child passed on their spotty infection. I've spent the weekend in bed because I feel so ill and won't go out until all the spots have gone as I do not want to risk passing this on to anyone else. It's hand, foot and mouth disease (seriously!) which has killed 36 children in China this month (it can lead to meningitis and encephalitis) and can cause pregnant women to miscarry. I'm not going to risk that happening to anyone so am staying at home. If only parents who have children with measles were as responsible.

How selfish! if you're so concerned why you didn't thought to get vaccinated yourself before it happens, nobody fault but your. I know the risk it takes not to vaccine, but I won't blame anyone else, apart of the govt. for not provide the vaccines separately, of course.

Txa wrote:

Jim BB wrote: I've had to take a week off work covered in spots and feeling lousy because someone didn't care if their child passed on their spotty infection. I've spent the weekend in bed because I feel so ill and won't go out until all the spots have gone as I do not want to risk passing this on to anyone else. It's hand, foot and mouth disease (seriously!) which has killed 36 children in China this month (it can lead to meningitis and encephalitis) and can cause pregnant women to miscarry. I'm not going to risk that happening to anyone so am staying at home. If only parents who have children with measles were as responsible.

How selfish! if you're so concerned why you didn't thought to get vaccinated yourself before it happens, nobody fault but your. I know the risk it takes not to vaccine, but I won't blame anyone else, apart of the govt. for not provide the vaccines separately, of course.

If pregnant women are concerned, make sure you're vaccinated before your pregnancy. I think it's German measles which is the risk for the fetus. And then again if your teen has already had mumps,measles or rubella, they still are not providing the only individual vaccine needed.

(excuse for my grammar mistakes): )

Txa, read what I wrote before accusing me of being selfish. I don't have measles but another infectious spotty disease for which there is no vaccine (hand, foot and mouth disease).

Because it is potentially deadly in very serious cases (but just annoying in most cases) and can cause pregnant women to have a miscarriage, I've been at home since I caught it precisely so I don't give it to anyone else.

I also rang my doctor before going to the surgery to ask if I would be allowed in as I'm covered in spots and didn't want to risk anyone else's health.

I only wish the little darling who gave it to me had taken such care themselves.

Jim BB wrote:
Txa, read what I wrote before accusing me of being selfish. I don't have measles but another infectious spotty disease for which there is no vaccine (hand, foot and mouth disease). Because it is potentially deadly in very serious cases (but just annoying in most cases) and can cause pregnant women to have a miscarriage, I've been at home since I caught it precisely so I don't give it to anyone else. I also rang my doctor before going to the surgery to ask if I would be allowed in as I'm covered in spots and didn't want to risk anyone else's health. I only wish the little darling who gave it to me had taken such care themselves.

O.K. I understand your situation, and you had to follow doctor guidelines or your own sensible intuitions. But why to accuse children of your own/others immune system weakness. If people are so worry should vaccine themselves and their children without delay,simple!It's the inconvenience to be human and live in collectivity. And count yourself lucky, that you have make it.
BTW I wish you well!

Txa, thanks.

I don't have measles but another spotty infectious disease which can't be vaccinated against, unfortunately.

But I do hope that measles vaccinations are increased as it's such a preventable disease with potentially tragic consequences if caught and spread, especially to pregnant women.

Jim BB said "I've had to take a week off covered in spots and feeling lousy because someone didn't care if their children pass on their spotty infection".
Are you not implying that you've been infected by children?Never mind.

Clarification: MMR

M measle, highly infectious, not so common in adult; most of us already had it as children. Non a life threatening.

M Mumps (risk of infertility in males only)

R Rubella(German measle) Risk for pregnant women if infected. Advise: all women should get vaccinated before getting pregnant.

Txa wrote:
Jim BB said "I've had to take a week off covered in spots and feeling lousy because someone didn't care if their children pass on their spotty infection". Are you not implying that you've been infected by children?Never mind. Clarification: MMR M measle, highly infectious, not so common in adult; most of us already had it as children. Non a life threatening. M Mumps (risk of infertility in males only) R Rubella(German measle) Risk for pregnant women if infected. Advise: all women should get vaccinated before getting pregnant.

Correction: MEASLES

useless-spellcheck

txa, I think you should know that these vaccinations have been subject to independent clinical trials and have been found, time and again to be completely safe. Some people, such as those with allergies and small babies, cannot have the vaccination. These people are now vulnerable because anti-social people who have chosen not vaccinate their children have contributed to a huge rise in measles, which, unlike the MMR jab, has actually been demonstrated to be life threatening, (albeit relatively rarely). Incidentally, if, as you say, the whole of life is a risk, why are you so concerned about the MMR jab?

Txa wrote:
Well, some of us are more worry about the effects of the vaccines (One of my children has already experimented that), and now I prefer take the risks for them to have the decease. Do you know, if your kids had any of the deceases of the MMR, still you have to vaccine them from the full combined vaccine? It doesn't make sense, the govt. don't want to listen and the attitude is totally wrong. We don't trust them anymore. Cocktail of chemicals inject into our children's body, without being tested long enough.
M,M,R are not life threatening deceases, get that.

there are no side effects to the MMR vaccine, other than as has been stated if you have an already established potential allergic reaction.

and "deciding to take the risk with your child" do you also take risks like alowing them to smoke because they might not get cancer. in the same way that your child might not get for example brain swelling and then perminent brain damage from contracting a measles virus that has been alowed to spread and grow strongerand stronger killing babies and other vunerables along the way. the MMR has had over 15 years of use and has had no side affects whatsoever outside of that already stated. yours is the wrong and frankly idiotic attitude. you and all the outher anti vaccination parents really are a bunch of idiots who are putting your own and others lives at risk

Thank god I had the jabs.

Do all of these parents think they're doctors? How do they KNOW this jab is so dangerous? Have they supervised clinical trials, read the reports, met the specialists? I doubt it. Everyone considers themselves a home doctor these days without good reason.

I personally can't believe that there are parents out there stupid and selfish enough to risk their own child's life and that of others by refusing this jab. If there were cold hard proof that this had ill effects, I would have more sympathy. There doesn't appear to be, unless someone can correct me?

Seems to me it's a case of parents saying "baaaaaaa" and following the crowd rather than putting any kind of independent thought or intelligence into the decision making process.

Security word once-well lol...

Txa, B&H:

If you can't spell disease then why are you even thinking about giving any advice?

bob123 wrote:
Txa, B&H: If you can't spell disease then why are you even thinking about giving any advice?

Advise; pity still not available a SCD vaccine(spelling compulsory disorder) against the net parasite trolls.

PepperB wrote:
txa, I think you should know that these vaccinations have been subject to independent clinical trials and have been found, time and again to be completely safe. Some people, such as those with allergies and small babies, cannot have the vaccination. These people are now vulnerable because anti-social people who have chosen not vaccinate their children have contributed to a huge rise in measles, which, unlike the MMR jab, has actually been demonstrated to be life threatening, (albeit relatively rarely). Incidentally, if, as you say, the whole of life is a risk, why are you so concerned about the MMR jab?

Vaccines are not a black/white issue that they want us to believe. There are vast pharmaceutical interests, cutting cost overloading them, the effectiveness doubts and the risks involve. There are not interest to record properly the vaccinations effects.
And I would like individual vaccines would be provided, like so many other parents. And, yes, I maintain that life is risky.