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Plans to close Brighton History Centre

A history centre described as a “unique one stop shop for information” is set to close.

Brighton and Hove City Council has put forward proposals to shut Brighton History Centre as part of a bid to save almost £8 million from its overall budget in the next year.

But its users claim the closure, which will save the council £62,000, will be a devastating blow.

A city council spokeswoman said: “A range of efficiency savings have been proposed across council services in the draft budget for next financial year.

“Many involve the reorganisation of services to offer better value for money while maintaining quality.

“These are still under discussion and will have to be considered by a meeting of the full council in the new year.”

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2:42pm Tue 15 Dec 09

kizmiaz says...

How can the council possibly claim that quality will be maintained with the closure of the History Centre?
It is not just the facilities themselves which will be lost, but the staff there who will lose their jobs who are as helpful and knowledgeable as it is possible to be, and it will be much to the detriment of all if they go. The plan to move some of the resources to the Jubilee Library will inevitably be a poor compromise, with most of the documents, books, and documents locked up never to be seen again.
How can the council possibly claim that quality will be maintained with the closure of the History Centre? It is not just the facilities themselves which will be lost, but the staff there who will lose their jobs who are as helpful and knowledgeable as it is possible to be, and it will be much to the detriment of all if they go. The plan to move some of the resources to the Jubilee Library will inevitably be a poor compromise, with most of the documents, books, and documents locked up never to be seen again. kizmiaz
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3:00pm Tue 15 Dec 09

quedula says...

In the big scheme of things £62,000 seems a paltry amount and the only way they can save it is to lose the staff who have accumulated years of expert knowledge in the local and family history fields. The books, documents etc. can be kept anywhere but the local history centre IS the staff.
In the big scheme of things £62,000 seems a paltry amount and the only way they can save it is to lose the staff who have accumulated years of expert knowledge in the local and family history fields. The books, documents etc. can be kept anywhere but the local history centre IS the staff. quedula
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3:13pm Tue 15 Dec 09

Totally Provincial says...

The know-nothing knuckle-dragging pseudo-accountants at the Council have decided to bludgeon a cultural resource to save a pawltry £62k. I can think of a lot of council waste, but the valuable resource that is the History Centre isn't in that category. Save the History Centre, and sack which ever numbskull came up with this idea... sacking them should save some evidently wasted money!
The know-nothing knuckle-dragging pseudo-accountants at the Council have decided to bludgeon a cultural resource to save a pawltry £62k. I can think of a lot of council waste, but the valuable resource that is the History Centre isn't in that category. Save the History Centre, and sack which ever numbskull came up with this idea... sacking them should save some evidently wasted money! Totally Provincial
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4:05pm Tue 15 Dec 09

puddingandpi says...

I didn't even know we had one!

Where is it? Is it free?

If I'd known I would've paid a visit.

If they'd marketed it properly, they might not have to close. Have they got a donations box by the front door? I used to work in a small, free museum & people will often give a donation if there's a means available.
I didn't even know we had one! Where is it? Is it free? If I'd known I would've paid a visit. If they'd marketed it properly, they might not have to close. Have they got a donations box by the front door? I used to work in a small, free museum & people will often give a donation if there's a means available. puddingandpi
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4:12pm Tue 15 Dec 09

kizmiaz says...

puddingandpi wrote:
I didn't even know we had one! Where is it? Is it free? If I'd known I would've paid a visit. If they'd marketed it properly, they might not have to close. Have they got a donations box by the front door? I used to work in a small, free museum & people will often give a donation if there's a means available.
The History Centre is on the top floor of the Brighton Museum in Royal Pavilion Gardens, just along the corridor from the cafe.
It's free to browse any of the records (a charge is made for printing and photocopying as is usual), and there is a small selection of books to buy. It has all the Brighton parish records on microfilm, all the town censuses, Argus archives, trade directories, more books about the area than you can possibly read in a lifetime and lots more.
Its an oasis of calm and tranquility in the centre of Brighton, and should not be lost.
[quote][p][bold]puddingandpi[/bold] wrote: I didn't even know we had one! Where is it? Is it free? If I'd known I would've paid a visit. If they'd marketed it properly, they might not have to close. Have they got a donations box by the front door? I used to work in a small, free museum & people will often give a donation if there's a means available.[/p][/quote]The History Centre is on the top floor of the Brighton Museum in Royal Pavilion Gardens, just along the corridor from the cafe. It's free to browse any of the records (a charge is made for printing and photocopying as is usual), and there is a small selection of books to buy. It has all the Brighton parish records on microfilm, all the town censuses, Argus archives, trade directories, more books about the area than you can possibly read in a lifetime and lots more. Its an oasis of calm and tranquility in the centre of Brighton, and should not be lost. kizmiaz
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5:36pm Tue 15 Dec 09

Gentleman Jim says...

PuddingandPi the Local History room has been in the press,radio and television and is of immense use to all who want to know about Sussex and in particular Brighton`s history,for those interested in Genealogy it is first rate providing information on Microfilm,microfiche and free use of the internet.The staff are very knowledgeable and most helpful.
I would imagine that the same amount could be saved by discontinuing that one day summer procession which causes wide spread disruption to the town.
PuddingandPi the Local History room has been in the press,radio and television and is of immense use to all who want to know about Sussex and in particular Brighton`s history,for those interested in Genealogy it is first rate providing information on Microfilm,microfiche and free use of the internet.The staff are very knowledgeable and most helpful. I would imagine that the same amount could be saved by discontinuing that one day summer procession which causes wide spread disruption to the town. Gentleman Jim
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5:47pm Tue 15 Dec 09

Mr Pickwick says...

Sounds like an officer-led diversion to me. Every time any department is told to look at its costs, the knee-jerk reaction is to propose a highly visible service costing not very much is axed, leading to public outrage and pressure on the politicians to give in.
Councillors should tell the officers to go back and come up with efficiency savings that involve back office people, not front line people, because that's where big savings can be made. At the same time, all staff may have to give a bit up to save their jobs. It's going to be a bumpy ride over the nest few years. Anyone who thinks they can protect their patch and keep on in the same old way is deluding themself. There will be big cuts - it's how they are made that is the question.
Sounds like an officer-led diversion to me. Every time any department is told to look at its costs, the knee-jerk reaction is to propose a highly visible service costing not very much is axed, leading to public outrage and pressure on the politicians to give in. Councillors should tell the officers to go back and come up with efficiency savings that involve back office people, not front line people, because that's where big savings can be made. At the same time, all staff may have to give a bit up to save their jobs. It's going to be a bumpy ride over the nest few years. Anyone who thinks they can protect their patch and keep on in the same old way is deluding themself. There will be big cuts - it's how they are made that is the question. Mr Pickwick
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6:06pm Tue 15 Dec 09

stan bailey says...

kizmiaz wrote:
puddingandpi wrote:
I didn't even know we had one! Where is it? Is it free? If I'd known I would've paid a visit. If they'd marketed it properly, they might not have to close. Have they got a donations box by the front door? I used to work in a small, free museum & people will often give a donation if there's a means available.
The History Centre is on the top floor of the Brighton Museum in Royal Pavilion Gardens, just along the corridor from the cafe.
It's free to browse any of the records (a charge is made for printing and photocopying as is usual), and there is a small selection of books to buy. It has all the Brighton parish records on microfilm, all the town censuses, Argus archives, trade directories, more books about the area than you can possibly read in a lifetime and lots more.
Its an oasis of calm and tranquility in the centre of Brighton, and should not be lost.
But it doesn't have knobs and buttons for brats to play with. It isn't particularly multi cultural and sexual orientation driven. Once just a few old working class folks, and few white well to do's lived here. Not PC anymore
[quote][p][bold]kizmiaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]puddingandpi[/bold] wrote: I didn't even know we had one! Where is it? Is it free? If I'd known I would've paid a visit. If they'd marketed it properly, they might not have to close. Have they got a donations box by the front door? I used to work in a small, free museum & people will often give a donation if there's a means available.[/p][/quote]The History Centre is on the top floor of the Brighton Museum in Royal Pavilion Gardens, just along the corridor from the cafe. It's free to browse any of the records (a charge is made for printing and photocopying as is usual), and there is a small selection of books to buy. It has all the Brighton parish records on microfilm, all the town censuses, Argus archives, trade directories, more books about the area than you can possibly read in a lifetime and lots more. Its an oasis of calm and tranquility in the centre of Brighton, and should not be lost.[/p][/quote]But it doesn't have knobs and buttons for brats to play with. It isn't particularly multi cultural and sexual orientation driven. Once just a few old working class folks, and few white well to do's lived here. Not PC anymore stan bailey
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6:32pm Tue 15 Dec 09

greenpaws says...

Kizmiaz, history is history and may encompass multi-cultural and sexual orientation issues.

I'm gay and I love history, especially, the development of towns and cities.

It would be appreciated if you kept your out-of-date prejudices out of the equation and you commented on the actual subject.
Kizmiaz, history is history and may encompass multi-cultural and sexual orientation issues. I'm gay and I love history, especially, the development of towns and cities. It would be appreciated if you kept your out-of-date prejudices out of the equation and you commented on the actual subject. greenpaws
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6:39pm Tue 15 Dec 09

Totally Provincial says...

greenpaws wrote:
Kizmiaz, history is history and may encompass multi-cultural and sexual orientation issues. I'm gay and I love history, especially, the development of towns and cities. It would be appreciated if you kept your out-of-date prejudices out of the equation and you commented on the actual subject.
Greenpaws, if you look again, you'll find it is Stan Bailey you have an issue with, NOT Kizmiaz, whose post was totally reasonable and balanced.
However, I agree with you: news flash to the terminally-blinkered and bigotted...gay people have ancestors and a personal history too, just like everybody else! Amazing, isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]greenpaws[/bold] wrote: Kizmiaz, history is history and may encompass multi-cultural and sexual orientation issues. I'm gay and I love history, especially, the development of towns and cities. It would be appreciated if you kept your out-of-date prejudices out of the equation and you commented on the actual subject.[/p][/quote]Greenpaws, if you look again, you'll find it is Stan Bailey you have an issue with, NOT Kizmiaz, whose post was totally reasonable and balanced. However, I agree with you: news flash to the terminally-blinkered and bigotted...gay people have ancestors and a personal history too, just like everybody else! Amazing, isn't it? Totally Provincial
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8:19pm Tue 15 Dec 09

prestonman says...

And how much are the council planning to spend on The Keep (to be built near the A27) to do a similar job??
And how much are the council planning to spend on The Keep (to be built near the A27) to do a similar job?? prestonman
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10:14pm Tue 15 Dec 09

kizmiaz says...

The Keep project is earmarked to cost approximately £19 million, of which B&H is to pay £5.3 million.
No planning application has even been submitted yet, and this won't take place until summer next year at the earliest!
Part of the planning process is to recruit consultants to draw up a business plan for the building. Whats the bet that these consultants will cost vastly more than the savings made from closing the History Centre?
The Keep project is earmarked to cost approximately £19 million, of which B&H is to pay £5.3 million. No planning application has even been submitted yet, and this won't take place until summer next year at the earliest! Part of the planning process is to recruit consultants to draw up a business plan for the building. Whats the bet that these consultants will cost vastly more than the savings made from closing the History Centre? kizmiaz
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9:42am Wed 16 Dec 09

Christophe Hawtree says...

This is but the latest instance of an outrageous proposal during Cllr David Smith's time in charge of "Culture". He is not up to the job. This proposal should never have got this far.
This is but the latest instance of an outrageous proposal during Cllr David Smith's time in charge of "Culture". He is not up to the job. This proposal should never have got this far. Christophe Hawtree
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8:59pm Wed 16 Dec 09

anne1483 says...

A saving of £62,000? And how many jobs does that costs? What happens to those people? Do they have to resort to benefits? If so, the saving is not anything like £62k. And how can the future have a solid foundation when the past, which forms that foundation, is forgotten, or at the very least put on a back burner? I like the old photos which the Argus publishes. I'm sure there are better ways to save money than by axing this valuable resource.
A saving of £62,000? And how many jobs does that costs? What happens to those people? Do they have to resort to benefits? If so, the saving is not anything like £62k. And how can the future have a solid foundation when the past, which forms that foundation, is forgotten, or at the very least put on a back burner? I like the old photos which the Argus publishes. I'm sure there are better ways to save money than by axing this valuable resource. anne1483
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