Football thugs go on rampage in Brighton

Up to 100 football hooligans took part in an organised street fight as Brighton and Hove Albion played a pre-season match.

Groups descended on the city to take part in the pre-arranged stand-off.

Residents and publicans locked their doors as two gangs clashed in Grove Hill, Brighton.

A team of 20 police officers stormed the scene and the group scattered in different directions.

Eleven people were arrested on suspicion of violent disorder.

The clash took place at about 4.30pm on Saturday.

The people in custody were expected to be released on bail late last night.

Anyone with information is asked call Sussex Police on 0845 6070999 quoting Operation Muswell.

Read the full story in today's Argus.

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10:34am Mon 2 Aug 10

Everest says...

How long before the football haters start their whining?
How long before the football haters start their whining? Everest

10:39am Mon 2 Aug 10

sdthetruth says...

Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.
Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free. sdthetruth

10:43am Mon 2 Aug 10

Whitedot says...

What a bunch of slack-jawed knuckle draggers.
What a bunch of slack-jawed knuckle draggers. Whitedot

10:45am Mon 2 Aug 10

Lord Tilford says...

sdthetruth wrote:
Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.
Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?
[quote][p][bold]sdthetruth[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.[/p][/quote]Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place? Lord Tilford

10:47am Mon 2 Aug 10

ICantThinkOfAName says...

The match didn't finish until 4.55pm.

How were they football hooligans?
The match didn't finish until 4.55pm. How were they football hooligans? ICantThinkOfAName

10:48am Mon 2 Aug 10

Hovesage says...

looking at various forums, it seems a large number of Albion fans are also members of the EDF...trouble just waiting to happen under guise of football...
looking at various forums, it seems a large number of Albion fans are also members of the EDF...trouble just waiting to happen under guise of football... Hovesage

10:57am Mon 2 Aug 10

lmspike says...

Lord Tilford wrote:
sdthetruth wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.
Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?
Trouble 25 mins before the end of the match and 3 miles away. How does that make it footballs responsibility Lord TITford !!!

So if I reverse in to someones car, because I am a football fan should the headline be Soccer Thug car smashing frenzy ?
[quote][p][bold]Lord Tilford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sdthetruth[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.[/p][/quote]Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?[/p][/quote]Trouble 25 mins before the end of the match and 3 miles away. How does that make it footballs responsibility Lord TITford !!! So if I reverse in to someones car, because I am a football fan should the headline be Soccer Thug car smashing frenzy ? lmspike

10:58am Mon 2 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

Of course it has something to do with football, any one who goes to football matches knows that behaviour and insults that would be completely unacceptable in the street or anywhere else are routine amongst many, if not most, football fans in the stands. This attracts the violent and stupid. The attraction of football to 'hooligans' is not a coincidence.

Or maybe they are all pumped up from listening to Beethovens 9th!
Of course it has something to do with football, any one who goes to football matches knows that behaviour and insults that would be completely unacceptable in the street or anywhere else are routine amongst many, if not most, football fans in the stands. This attracts the violent and stupid. The attraction of football to 'hooligans' is not a coincidence. Or maybe they are all pumped up from listening to Beethovens 9th! Surely not!

11:10am Mon 2 Aug 10

HJarrs says...

I think you will find that they were upset at finding the Spread Eagle closed down. Maybe it was the old crowd that drank there that came back for old times sake!
I think you will find that they were upset at finding the Spread Eagle closed down. Maybe it was the old crowd that drank there that came back for old times sake! HJarrs

11:13am Mon 2 Aug 10

fascinator says...

I've always found the Aberdeen fans to be on their best behaviour, and the report doesn't say where the miscreants came frae.
Pitordrie is full of witty banter on home match days - for example, if the ref makes a poor decision, several of the kilted crew will offer to lend him their specsavers glasses!
Must have been Brighton fellows,
I've always found the Aberdeen fans to be on their best behaviour, and the report doesn't say where the miscreants came frae. Pitordrie is full of witty banter on home match days - for example, if the ref makes a poor decision, several of the kilted crew will offer to lend him their specsavers glasses! Must have been Brighton fellows, fascinator

11:20am Mon 2 Aug 10

current scoffer says...

Oh yes... the new season is almost here - the thugs on their soccer forums will boasting about their drunkeness - a minority of vile, crude, people let loose again on communities - frankly, I think a spell out in Afghanistan would sort them out - but don't get me blooming started on that one eh!! rofl!!
Oh yes... the new season is almost here - the thugs on their soccer forums will boasting about their drunkeness - a minority of vile, crude, people let loose again on communities - frankly, I think a spell out in Afghanistan would sort them out - but don't get me blooming started on that one eh!! rofl!! current scoffer

11:28am Mon 2 Aug 10

Gubbins says...

Just thugs using football as a means to an end. Problem is, football culture is such that it has been allowed to become a magnet for these morons. I'm by means a football hater but have no wish to be associated with violent and often drunken / drugged yobs. I'm also not sure why the ordinary taxpayer should be paying for police attendance either ? Start billing the clubs with the real costs and the problem will disappear.
Just thugs using football as a means to an end. Problem is, football culture is such that it has been allowed to become a magnet for these morons. I'm by means a football hater but have no wish to be associated with violent and often drunken / drugged yobs. I'm also not sure why the ordinary taxpayer should be paying for police attendance either ? Start billing the clubs with the real costs and the problem will disappear. Gubbins

11:34am Mon 2 Aug 10

Burgess901 says...

Does anyone know what other sport attracts hooliganism?
Tennis, rugby, maybe chess perhaps:)
Does anyone know what other sport attracts hooliganism? Tennis, rugby, maybe chess perhaps:) Burgess901

11:43am Mon 2 Aug 10

Sweatshop Tachinardi says...

About 20 - 30 Aberdeen and Spurs fans left Withdean after about ten minutes.

More than enough time to get back into town for the trouble.
About 20 - 30 Aberdeen and Spurs fans left Withdean after about ten minutes. More than enough time to get back into town for the trouble. Sweatshop Tachinardi

11:43am Mon 2 Aug 10

Mr Tom Gimpe says...

I agree with Gubbins, any old excuse and these anti social morons come out of the woodwork fuelled by excessive drinking , drug taking , the moronic singing of hooligan related songs ... where old favourite sing-along innocent tunes are replaced with violent , moronic words designed to stir up and antagonize their opponents into mass disorder on our streets ... it starts off with minor anti-social stuff like shoplifting , vandalism , riding of cycles on pavements , spitting , shouting and swearing , then channels into organised gangs looking for a punch-up under the guise of "football" ... stiffer prison sentences would help , but , oh , the prisons are full up ain't they?????
I agree with Gubbins, any old excuse and these anti social morons come out of the woodwork fuelled by excessive drinking , drug taking , the moronic singing of hooligan related songs ... where old favourite sing-along innocent tunes are replaced with violent , moronic words designed to stir up and antagonize their opponents into mass disorder on our streets ... it starts off with minor anti-social stuff like shoplifting , vandalism , riding of cycles on pavements , spitting , shouting and swearing , then channels into organised gangs looking for a punch-up under the guise of "football" ... stiffer prison sentences would help , but , oh , the prisons are full up ain't they????? Mr Tom Gimpe

11:44am Mon 2 Aug 10

Charismatic Andrew says...

Hovesage wrote:
looking at various forums, it seems a large number of Albion fans are also members of the EDF...trouble just waiting to happen under guise of football...
That's just ridiculous. None of the football hooligans I know use EDF as their energy suppliers. They tend to go with British Gas.
[quote][p][bold]Hovesage[/bold] wrote: looking at various forums, it seems a large number of Albion fans are also members of the EDF...trouble just waiting to happen under guise of football...[/p][/quote]That's just ridiculous. None of the football hooligans I know use EDF as their energy suppliers. They tend to go with British Gas. Charismatic Andrew

11:47am Mon 2 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

Mr Tom Gimpe wrote:
I agree with Gubbins, any old excuse and these anti social morons come out of the woodwork fuelled by excessive drinking , drug taking , the moronic singing of hooligan related songs ... where old favourite sing-along innocent tunes are replaced with violent , moronic words designed to stir up and antagonize their opponents into mass disorder on our streets ... it starts off with minor anti-social stuff like shoplifting , vandalism , riding of cycles on pavements , spitting , shouting and swearing , then channels into organised gangs looking for a punch-up under the guise of "football" ... stiffer prison sentences would help , but , oh , the prisons are full up ain't they?????
I thought this might be satirical...

but then I saw that you lived in Durrington!
[quote][p][bold]Mr Tom Gimpe[/bold] wrote: I agree with Gubbins, any old excuse and these anti social morons come out of the woodwork fuelled by excessive drinking , drug taking , the moronic singing of hooligan related songs ... where old favourite sing-along innocent tunes are replaced with violent , moronic words designed to stir up and antagonize their opponents into mass disorder on our streets ... it starts off with minor anti-social stuff like shoplifting , vandalism , riding of cycles on pavements , spitting , shouting and swearing , then channels into organised gangs looking for a punch-up under the guise of "football" ... stiffer prison sentences would help , but , oh , the prisons are full up ain't they?????[/p][/quote]I thought this might be satirical... but then I saw that you lived in Durrington! Surely not!

11:49am Mon 2 Aug 10

colz says...

Lord Tilford wrote:
sdthetruth wrote:
Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.
Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?
so it wouldn't happen if there was no football then ?, think you a bit short sighted lord Tilford
[quote][p][bold]Lord Tilford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sdthetruth[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.[/p][/quote]Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?[/p][/quote]so it wouldn't happen if there was no football then ?, think you a bit short sighted lord Tilford colz

11:51am Mon 2 Aug 10

Stripes says...

Gubbins wrote:
Just thugs using football as a means to an end. Problem is, football culture is such that it has been allowed to become a magnet for these morons. I'm by means a football hater but have no wish to be associated with violent and often drunken / drugged yobs. I'm also not sure why the ordinary taxpayer should be paying for police attendance either ? Start billing the clubs with the real costs and the problem will disappear.
Clubs do pay for policing already.

As a Brighton fan it is an embarassment that there are groups of grown men who support the club intent on having 'organised fights'. What a sad, vile, pathetic group of people they are.
[quote][p][bold]Gubbins[/bold] wrote: Just thugs using football as a means to an end. Problem is, football culture is such that it has been allowed to become a magnet for these morons. I'm by means a football hater but have no wish to be associated with violent and often drunken / drugged yobs. I'm also not sure why the ordinary taxpayer should be paying for police attendance either ? Start billing the clubs with the real costs and the problem will disappear.[/p][/quote]Clubs do pay for policing already. As a Brighton fan it is an embarassment that there are groups of grown men who support the club intent on having 'organised fights'. What a sad, vile, pathetic group of people they are. Stripes

11:54am Mon 2 Aug 10

Colin Houlson says...

Burgess901 wrote:
Does anyone know what other sport attracts hooliganism?
Tennis, rugby, maybe chess perhaps:)
In rugby, the thugs are on the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]Burgess901[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know what other sport attracts hooliganism? Tennis, rugby, maybe chess perhaps:)[/p][/quote]In rugby, the thugs are on the pitch. Colin Houlson

12:06pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Sweatshop Tachinardi says...

Tennis and basketball attract similar problems in Eastern Europe.
Tennis and basketball attract similar problems in Eastern Europe. Sweatshop Tachinardi

12:09pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Lord Tilford says...

colz wrote:
Lord Tilford wrote:
sdthetruth wrote:
Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.
Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?
so it wouldn't happen if there was no football then ?, think you a bit short sighted lord Tilford
I'm sure you don't believe that an organised fight between a group of men from Aberdeen and a group from Brighton would have occurred if there hadn't been a football match on.
[quote][p][bold]colz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Tilford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sdthetruth[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.[/p][/quote]Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?[/p][/quote]so it wouldn't happen if there was no football then ?, think you a bit short sighted lord Tilford[/p][/quote]I'm sure you don't believe that an organised fight between a group of men from Aberdeen and a group from Brighton would have occurred if there hadn't been a football match on. Lord Tilford

12:17pm Mon 2 Aug 10

censored says...

If I were organising a gang street-fight, I definitely wouldn't do it 200 feet away from the city's main police station...
If I were organising a gang street-fight, I definitely wouldn't do it 200 feet away from the city's main police station... censored

12:17pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Rougvie Legend says...

Burgess901 wrote:
Does anyone know what other sport attracts hooliganism? Tennis, rugby, maybe chess perhaps:)
Yer look through the argus archives around two weeks ago there was trouble at the Cricket , which was labeled as football hooliganism , any trouble gets labeled as football hooliganism , these people will cause trouble any where they go , they are the same people who get into fights every weekend in our towns and cities .
[quote][p][bold]Burgess901[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know what other sport attracts hooliganism? Tennis, rugby, maybe chess perhaps:)[/p][/quote]Yer look through the argus archives around two weeks ago there was trouble at the Cricket , which was labeled as football hooliganism , any trouble gets labeled as football hooliganism , these people will cause trouble any where they go , they are the same people who get into fights every weekend in our towns and cities . Rougvie Legend

12:31pm Mon 2 Aug 10

shockedandappalled says...

This is quite unacceptable. I get my electricity from EDF and this is just not on.

I will be writing a very strongly worded letter to the Times immediatly
This is quite unacceptable. I get my electricity from EDF and this is just not on. I will be writing a very strongly worded letter to the Times immediatly shockedandappalled

12:35pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Gubbins says...

Stripes, Brighton .......I should have qualified my comment more fully. I would like to see the clubs billed for the whole legal process. By that I mean not just police attendance at matches for security and traffic etc.. but also full costs for police time and administration. Additionally, subject to legal process, also billed for detention costs, solicitors fees and witness attendance costs. If ordinary Britain's are to suffer budget cuts, lets recover some of it from sloppy football club manages.
Stripes, Brighton .......I should have qualified my comment more fully. I would like to see the clubs billed for the whole legal process. By that I mean not just police attendance at matches for security and traffic etc.. but also full costs for police time and administration. Additionally, subject to legal process, also billed for detention costs, solicitors fees and witness attendance costs. If ordinary Britain's are to suffer budget cuts, lets recover some of it from sloppy football club manages. Gubbins

12:38pm Mon 2 Aug 10

shegull says...

As a real football fan, female and in my late fifties, passionate about the game, I do not understand why the club does not come out and distance themselves from these thugs. Also where anyone is identified as a BHAFC 'fan' that individual receives a life ban from all football matches home and abroad plus a hefty fine and a criminal record. English Defense League were at most league grounds last season and their sole purpose is to cause trouble, nothing whatsoever to do with the football.
As a real football fan, female and in my late fifties, passionate about the game, I do not understand why the club does not come out and distance themselves from these thugs. Also where anyone is identified as a BHAFC 'fan' that individual receives a life ban from all football matches home and abroad plus a hefty fine and a criminal record. English Defense League were at most league grounds last season and their sole purpose is to cause trouble, nothing whatsoever to do with the football. shegull

12:44pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Burgess901 says...

Hooligans at the cricket, whatever next? I blame the fact you can now whoop, scream and cheer at cricket where you used to be only able to reservedly clap.
Getting over-excited is just not cricket.
I agree that these people will go anywhere and use any reason for a fight.
Hooligans at the cricket, whatever next? I blame the fact you can now whoop, scream and cheer at cricket where you used to be only able to reservedly clap. Getting over-excited is just not cricket. I agree that these people will go anywhere and use any reason for a fight. Burgess901

12:50pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Gubbins says...

shegull, Brighton .....correct the clubs refuse to distance themselves from these morons. That's why they should be billed for every penny they cost tax-payers. Heavy billing would also make ordinary supporters pay more attention to the people who are appointed to manage these clubs.
shegull, Brighton .....correct the clubs refuse to distance themselves from these morons. That's why they should be billed for every penny they cost tax-payers. Heavy billing would also make ordinary supporters pay more attention to the people who are appointed to manage these clubs. Gubbins

12:50pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Alan G Skinner says...

I fail to see the problem with this, whether they make associations to the football club or not is irrelivent. It was an organised brawl, totally authorised, no innocents got caught up in it. You cannot stop this kind or thing and quite frankly why would you need to? As long as it's nowhere near the ground so the respective clubs cannot be critised, and no innoccents get caught up in it, does anyone really care? There are far more important issues to be focusing on, like the Ecomomy, Crime that has victims, dealing with immigration, education and health.
I fail to see the problem with this, whether they make associations to the football club or not is irrelivent. It was an organised brawl, totally authorised, no innocents got caught up in it. You cannot stop this kind or thing and quite frankly why would you need to? As long as it's nowhere near the ground so the respective clubs cannot be critised, and no innoccents get caught up in it, does anyone really care? There are far more important issues to be focusing on, like the Ecomomy, Crime that has victims, dealing with immigration, education and health. Alan G Skinner

12:51pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Sweatshop Tachinardi says...

Why bill the club? It has no say whatsoever over who decides to be a Brighton fan and who does not.

If trouble happens away from the ground like this, it is through no fault whatsoever of the club.

If the club did get given the legal bill, it would be handed in turn to fans through increased ticket prices etc.
Why bill the club? It has no say whatsoever over who decides to be a Brighton fan and who does not. If trouble happens away from the ground like this, it is through no fault whatsoever of the club. If the club did get given the legal bill, it would be handed in turn to fans through increased ticket prices etc. Sweatshop Tachinardi

12:52pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Wiggsy says...

lmspike wrote:
Lord Tilford wrote:
sdthetruth wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.
Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?
Trouble 25 mins before the end of the match and 3 miles away. How does that make it footballs responsibility Lord TITford !!! So if I reverse in to someones car, because I am a football fan should the headline be Soccer Thug car smashing frenzy ?
I should have thought the Neanderthals were using the element of surprise by heading out early for the tear up and with it being no where near the stadium.............
.it's not like its the first time violence has erupted between fans nowhere near a clubs ground
[quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Tilford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sdthetruth[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.[/p][/quote]Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?[/p][/quote]Trouble 25 mins before the end of the match and 3 miles away. How does that make it footballs responsibility Lord TITford !!! So if I reverse in to someones car, because I am a football fan should the headline be Soccer Thug car smashing frenzy ?[/p][/quote]I should have thought the Neanderthals were using the element of surprise by heading out early for the tear up and with it being no where near the stadium............. .it's not like its the first time violence has erupted between fans nowhere near a clubs ground Wiggsy

12:53pm Mon 2 Aug 10

van hoos farted says...

Perhaps an organised fight could be made between....

football fans, travellers at waterhall, the council approving 100k for moving the bus shelter, that bent copper, the lewes road garden community crustie's, that rubbish tatooist in Lewes, the girl who had the rubbish tattoo in Lewes and finally the guy who ties a yellow ribbon around his nob takes a photo and pins it to a streetlight.....That would be worth watching,maybe Caroline Lucas could referee...
Perhaps an organised fight could be made between.... football fans, travellers at waterhall, the council approving 100k for moving the bus shelter, that bent copper, the lewes road garden community crustie's, that rubbish tatooist in Lewes, the girl who had the rubbish tattoo in Lewes and finally the guy who ties a yellow ribbon around his nob takes a photo and pins it to a streetlight.....That would be worth watching,maybe Caroline Lucas could referee... van hoos farted

12:53pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Gubbins says...

Alan G Skinner ......full marks for a highly skilled attempt at diverting attention away from the problem !!!
Alan G Skinner ......full marks for a highly skilled attempt at diverting attention away from the problem !!! Gubbins

12:57pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

Good point by Rougvie, above. There's a fight at a cricket match - and it's 'football hooligans'. There's a fight in Brighton whilst a pre-season friendly is being played - and it's 'football hooligans'. I'm surprised any violence at the EDO protests isn't blamed on 'football hooligans.
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This was a fight between two gangs miles from any football ground. It happens in seaside resorts, the gang members may well like football but that's irrelevant. I'm sure older Brighton residents remember the old Mods v Rockers fights; or as they'd probably say today: Mod football hooligans v Rocker football hooligans
Good point by Rougvie, above. There's a fight at a cricket match - and it's 'football hooligans'. There's a fight in Brighton whilst a pre-season friendly is being played - and it's 'football hooligans'. I'm surprised any violence at the EDO protests isn't blamed on 'football hooligans. . This was a fight between two gangs miles from any football ground. It happens in seaside resorts, the gang members may well like football but that's irrelevant. I'm sure older Brighton residents remember the old Mods v Rockers fights; or as they'd probably say today: Mod football hooligans v Rocker football hooligans Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit

1:03pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Granny says...

Thugs are thugs are thugs full stop. If there is a football match on, they are labelled as football thugs, if there is cricket, they are cricket thugs. G*D help us when we have the marbles championships! These individuals, I hesitate to call them people, will use any excuse to cause disruption and have a punch up.
Thugs are thugs are thugs full stop. If there is a football match on, they are labelled as football thugs, if there is cricket, they are cricket thugs. G*D help us when we have the marbles championships! These individuals, I hesitate to call them people, will use any excuse to cause disruption and have a punch up. Granny

1:05pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

Gubbins wrote:
shegull, Brighton .....correct the clubs refuse to distance themselves from these morons. That's why they should be billed for every penny they cost tax-payers. Heavy billing would also make ordinary supporters pay more attention to the people who are appointed to manage these clubs.
Utter rubbish. All football clubs go out of their way to distance themselves from the morons and banning orders are enforced to stop offenders from attending games or even travelling to them. This policy has been VERY successful and hooliganism at both club and country level has been reduced to probably the lowest level it has ever been.
[quote][p][bold]Gubbins[/bold] wrote: shegull, Brighton .....correct the clubs refuse to distance themselves from these morons. That's why they should be billed for every penny they cost tax-payers. Heavy billing would also make ordinary supporters pay more attention to the people who are appointed to manage these clubs.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish. All football clubs go out of their way to distance themselves from the morons and banning orders are enforced to stop offenders from attending games or even travelling to them. This policy has been VERY successful and hooliganism at both club and country level has been reduced to probably the lowest level it has ever been. Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit

1:27pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote:
Gubbins wrote:
shegull, Brighton .....correct the clubs refuse to distance themselves from these morons. That's why they should be billed for every penny they cost tax-payers. Heavy billing would also make ordinary supporters pay more attention to the people who are appointed to manage these clubs.
Utter rubbish. All football clubs go out of their way to distance themselves from the morons and banning orders are enforced to stop offenders from attending games or even travelling to them. This policy has been VERY successful and hooliganism at both club and country level has been reduced to probably the lowest level it has ever been.
and yet there is still violence attached to football.This is because the culture of football fans' often incites it, or perhaps you go to different matches to me?

The only other explanation is that you regard moronic verbal abuse and threatening behaviour as 'normal', which often seems to be the case with football supporters.
[quote][p][bold]Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gubbins[/bold] wrote: shegull, Brighton .....correct the clubs refuse to distance themselves from these morons. That's why they should be billed for every penny they cost tax-payers. Heavy billing would also make ordinary supporters pay more attention to the people who are appointed to manage these clubs.[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish. All football clubs go out of their way to distance themselves from the morons and banning orders are enforced to stop offenders from attending games or even travelling to them. This policy has been VERY successful and hooliganism at both club and country level has been reduced to probably the lowest level it has ever been.[/p][/quote]and yet there is still violence attached to football.This is because the culture of football fans' often incites it, or perhaps you go to different matches to me? The only other explanation is that you regard moronic verbal abuse and threatening behaviour as 'normal', which often seems to be the case with football supporters. Surely not!

1:29pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Gubbins says...

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit .....token gestures only that have little or no effect.
Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit .....token gestures only that have little or no effect. Gubbins

1:47pm Mon 2 Aug 10

PeteBrighton says...

van hoos got it spot on, vote for him next time, unless he lives miles and miles away from the constituency like dear old you know who...!
van hoos got it spot on, vote for him next time, unless he lives miles and miles away from the constituency like dear old you know who...! PeteBrighton

1:48pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Stripes says...

Gubbins wrote:
Stripes, Brighton .......I should have qualified my comment more fully. I would like to see the clubs billed for the whole legal process. By that I mean not just police attendance at matches for security and traffic etc.. but also full costs for police time and administration. Additionally, subject to legal process, also billed for detention costs, solicitors fees and witness attendance costs. If ordinary Britain's are to suffer budget cuts, lets recover some of it from sloppy football club manages.
I see... So Brighton & Hove Albion should foot the legal bill for a group of violent fanatics who independently arranged a fight with Scottish fans probably via facebook or other forum to meet 3 miles away from Withdean Stadium DURING a match to have a fight?

If you ever do go to a football match (which I hope you will do one day) you will find 99% of fans extremely well behaved, enthusiastic and passionate about their team.

I have been going to Brighton games my whole life and I have never experienced any form of 'trouble' in or outside the ground, I've sat next to a few nutters and seen the odd person ejected for being drunk in my time but I've never been caught up in a running street battle that's for sure.
[quote][p][bold]Gubbins[/bold] wrote: Stripes, Brighton .......I should have qualified my comment more fully. I would like to see the clubs billed for the whole legal process. By that I mean not just police attendance at matches for security and traffic etc.. but also full costs for police time and administration. Additionally, subject to legal process, also billed for detention costs, solicitors fees and witness attendance costs. If ordinary Britain's are to suffer budget cuts, lets recover some of it from sloppy football club manages.[/p][/quote]I see... So Brighton & Hove Albion should foot the legal bill for a group of violent fanatics who independently arranged a fight with Scottish fans probably via facebook or other forum to meet 3 miles away from Withdean Stadium DURING a match to have a fight? If you ever do go to a football match (which I hope you will do one day) you will find 99% of fans extremely well behaved, enthusiastic and passionate about their team. I have been going to Brighton games my whole life and I have never experienced any form of 'trouble' in or outside the ground, I've sat next to a few nutters and seen the odd person ejected for being drunk in my time but I've never been caught up in a running street battle that's for sure. Stripes

2:07pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Surely not! says...

PeteBrighton always puts a smile on my face with his absurd comments.
PeteBrighton always puts a smile on my face with his absurd comments. Surely not!

2:10pm Mon 2 Aug 10

PeteBrighton says...

well surely not, van hoos can't possibly be less brighton orientated than dear dr live-miles-away
well surely not, van hoos can't possibly be less brighton orientated than dear dr live-miles-away PeteBrighton

3:16pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Gee Jay says...

Completely agree with 'Stripes' contribution, and, also after many years of attending both home and away matches, have not witnessed any trouble since the 1970's.
Does it not occur to some of your contributors on here that the trouble is not football, but excess testosterone and consumption of alcohol.
Good grief, it will only be a matter of time before someone posts on here that it was all due to smoking!
Completely agree with 'Stripes' contribution, and, also after many years of attending both home and away matches, have not witnessed any trouble since the 1970's. Does it not occur to some of your contributors on here that the trouble is not football, but excess testosterone and consumption of alcohol. Good grief, it will only be a matter of time before someone posts on here that it was all due to smoking! Gee Jay

3:32pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Ian B Brewers says...

Cant hold there beer like us real men yar ha ha
Cant hold there beer like us real men yar ha ha Ian B Brewers

3:53pm Mon 2 Aug 10

jay316 says...

Grove Hill, (albion hill) quite approriate..

Shouldn't have taken police long to get there its walking distance from the Police station.
Grove Hill, (albion hill) quite approriate.. Shouldn't have taken police long to get there its walking distance from the Police station. jay316

3:59pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Bluebeef says...

Public hanging that's the ticket
Public hanging that's the ticket Bluebeef

4:21pm Mon 2 Aug 10

ICantThinkOfAName says...

I blame the smoking culture.
I blame the smoking culture. ICantThinkOfAName

4:32pm Mon 2 Aug 10

current scoffer says...

Ian B Brewers wrote:
Cant hold there beer like us real men yar ha ha
That's a joke coming from you!! i've seen you rather unsteady on your feet after a few jars of southern peess... but at least you never break out into rowdy soccer chants - I find the whole thing of singing mindless, tribal, songs to be rather boring!! yawn!! perhaps these soccer 'stars' should ban themselves from drinking - then the these oiks might, just might, give up the ritual of drinking and causing problems for everyone else. We need to challenge these vile morons who promote drunkeness on various soccer forums everytime they spew out this crud... promoting this kind of garbage is totally unacceptable!!
[quote][p][bold]Ian B Brewers[/bold] wrote: Cant hold there beer like us real men yar ha ha[/p][/quote]That's a joke coming from you!! i've seen you rather unsteady on your feet after a few jars of southern peess... but at least you never break out into rowdy soccer chants - I find the whole thing of singing mindless, tribal, songs to be rather boring!! yawn!! perhaps these soccer 'stars' should ban themselves from drinking - then the these oiks might, just might, give up the ritual of drinking and causing problems for everyone else. We need to challenge these vile morons who promote drunkeness on various soccer forums everytime they spew out this crud... promoting this kind of garbage is totally unacceptable!! current scoffer

4:35pm Mon 2 Aug 10

just-a-person says...

of course it would help if the players behaved themselves too and set an example, there seems to be more of this in the news lately i think it is making a return. watch the new season and some of the fixtures going on there, guaranteed trouble.
of course it would help if the players behaved themselves too and set an example, there seems to be more of this in the news lately i think it is making a return. watch the new season and some of the fixtures going on there, guaranteed trouble. just-a-person

4:52pm Mon 2 Aug 10

censored says...

Is Alan G Skinner for real?!

No "innocents" got caught up in it?

Apart from it taking place on a busy Saturday afternoon in a residential street packed with cars, with people walking through to get home and a lot of young families and visitors out for the day, of course.

I have no objection if the thugs want to drive out to a field in the middle of the downs and kick crap out of each other, mind.
Is Alan G Skinner for real?! No "innocents" got caught up in it? Apart from it taking place on a busy Saturday afternoon in a residential street packed with cars, with people walking through to get home and a lot of young families and visitors out for the day, of course. I have no objection if the thugs want to drive out to a field in the middle of the downs and kick crap out of each other, mind. censored

6:11pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Gubbins says...

Any sociology student reading these postings has got enough material for a doctorate level degree. They say a lot about Britain today ! Anyone ever wonder why some countries refer to us as 'island-apes' ?
Any sociology student reading these postings has got enough material for a doctorate level degree. They say a lot about Britain today ! Anyone ever wonder why some countries refer to us as 'island-apes' ? Gubbins

6:20pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Craig S says...

God there are some stupid comments on here. Suggesting the club foots the bill for legal costs etc has to be stupidest.

These thugs merely use football as an excuse to behave like this.
God there are some stupid comments on here. Suggesting the club foots the bill for legal costs etc has to be stupidest. These thugs merely use football as an excuse to behave like this. Craig S

6:22pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Georgy Edgson says...

I live on Grove Hill, right in front of where the altercation took place on Saturday afternoon. I'd just like to point out to The Argus that there were, at best, 30 people involved, not 100. The police took twenty minutes to arrive, by which time all the people involved had disappeared, and there were two officers in evidence, in a van, parked at the other end of the road.

Is your reporter sure that they didn't get this mixed up with some other "rampage"?
I live on Grove Hill, right in front of where the altercation took place on Saturday afternoon. I'd just like to point out to The Argus that there were, at best, 30 people involved, not 100. The police took twenty minutes to arrive, by which time all the people involved had disappeared, and there were two officers in evidence, in a van, parked at the other end of the road. Is your reporter sure that they didn't get this mixed up with some other "rampage"? Georgy Edgson

6:23pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Georgy Edgson says...

Also, the people involved came out of The Albion pub - a bit difficult if the "doors were bolted".
Also, the people involved came out of The Albion pub - a bit difficult if the "doors were bolted". Georgy Edgson

8:47pm Mon 2 Aug 10

klemaniac says...

These "Football Hooligans get around, see headline

"A man has killed 11 people in China after going on an hour-long rampage in a tractor."
These "Football Hooligans get around, see headline "A man has killed 11 people in China after going on an hour-long rampage in a tractor." klemaniac

9:51pm Mon 2 Aug 10

saucy postcard says...

There is a long established history of 'lads' turning up at seaside resort for a bit of a 'tear-up' on a warm summers weekend. Mods and rockers anyone?

Or were they football fans as well?
There is a long established history of 'lads' turning up at seaside resort for a bit of a 'tear-up' on a warm summers weekend. Mods and rockers anyone? Or were they football fans as well? saucy postcard

9:53pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Billyboyarnold says...

Spurs fans at a Brighton v Aberdeen Friendly, "Get a life" your aving a larf. A coach load of lads on a day out had too much to drink, and it kicks off with the locals, what's wrong with that, it happens every week in every town in England, stop blowing up this incident into something it isn't.
Spurs fans at a Brighton v Aberdeen Friendly, "Get a life" your aving a larf. A coach load of lads on a day out had too much to drink, and it kicks off with the locals, what's wrong with that, it happens every week in every town in England, stop blowing up this incident into something it isn't. Billyboyarnold

10:16pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Everest says...

Burgess901 wrote:
Does anyone know what other sport attracts hooliganism? Tennis, rugby, maybe chess perhaps:)
Tennis and golf have had them for years
[quote][p][bold]Burgess901[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know what other sport attracts hooliganism? Tennis, rugby, maybe chess perhaps:)[/p][/quote]Tennis and golf have had them for years Everest

10:28pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Nigel99 says...

What a load of drivel!! The "morons" that caused the trouble are NOT football fans. The football fans are the people like myself, my wife & my son, who go to the ground to watch the match. The trouble occurred several miles away, whilst the match was in progress!
I object, as football fan, to be tarnished as having anything in common with these thugs.
What a load of drivel!! The "morons" that caused the trouble are NOT football fans. The football fans are the people like myself, my wife & my son, who go to the ground to watch the match. The trouble occurred several miles away, whilst the match was in progress! I object, as football fan, to be tarnished as having anything in common with these thugs. Nigel99

10:32pm Mon 2 Aug 10

McKenzie says...

Are you a Mail reader Gubbins?
Are you a Mail reader Gubbins? McKenzie

10:41pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Gubbins says...

McKenzie wrote:
Are you a Mail reader Gubbins?
Tut ..Tut ..definitely not. Telegraph only.
[quote][p][bold]McKenzie[/bold] wrote: Are you a Mail reader Gubbins?[/p][/quote]Tut ..Tut ..definitely not. Telegraph only. Gubbins

10:43pm Mon 2 Aug 10

sidsixty9 says...

I blame the footballers. They're on £100,000 a week you know!
I blame the footballers. They're on £100,000 a week you know! sidsixty9

12:04am Tue 3 Aug 10

greggory says...

fascinator wrote:
I've always found the Aberdeen fans to be on their best behaviour, and the report doesn't say where the miscreants came frae. Pitordrie is full of witty banter on home match days - for example, if the ref makes a poor decision, several of the kilted crew will offer to lend him their specsavers glasses! Must have been Brighton fellows,
More liable to be the sheep
sha ggers of Aberdeen.They haven't won a thing since the days of Alex Ferguson!
[quote][p][bold]fascinator[/bold] wrote: I've always found the Aberdeen fans to be on their best behaviour, and the report doesn't say where the miscreants came frae. Pitordrie is full of witty banter on home match days - for example, if the ref makes a poor decision, several of the kilted crew will offer to lend him their specsavers glasses! Must have been Brighton fellows,[/p][/quote]More liable to be the sheep sha ggers of Aberdeen.They haven't won a thing since the days of Alex Ferguson! greggory

2:30am Tue 3 Aug 10

mr lover lover says...

your all a load of ice cream uniteds))
your all a load of ice cream uniteds)) mr lover lover

2:43am Tue 3 Aug 10

Baldseagull says...

The report says there was a pre-arranged stand off.
Why was I not invited?
I'm well handy in a stand off, I can stand off for hours.
What a shame that their pre-arranged stand off was marred by violence when 20 uninvited guests stormed the scene.
The report says there was a pre-arranged stand off. Why was I not invited? I'm well handy in a stand off, I can stand off for hours. What a shame that their pre-arranged stand off was marred by violence when 20 uninvited guests stormed the scene. Baldseagull

3:12am Tue 3 Aug 10

bertnz says...

lmspike wrote:
Lord Tilford wrote:
sdthetruth wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.
Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?
Trouble 25 mins before the end of the match and 3 miles away. How does that make it footballs responsibility Lord TITford !!! So if I reverse in to someones car, because I am a football fan should the headline be Soccer Thug car smashing frenzy ?
Nope, it just means your a sh*t driver !
[quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Tilford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sdthetruth[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.[/p][/quote]Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?[/p][/quote]Trouble 25 mins before the end of the match and 3 miles away. How does that make it footballs responsibility Lord TITford !!! So if I reverse in to someones car, because I am a football fan should the headline be Soccer Thug car smashing frenzy ?[/p][/quote]Nope, it just means your a sh*t driver ! bertnz

3:12am Tue 3 Aug 10

bertnz says...

lmspike wrote:
Lord Tilford wrote:
sdthetruth wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.
Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?
Trouble 25 mins before the end of the match and 3 miles away. How does that make it footballs responsibility Lord TITford !!! So if I reverse in to someones car, because I am a football fan should the headline be Soccer Thug car smashing frenzy ?
Nope, it just means your a sh*t driver !
[quote][p][bold]lmspike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Tilford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sdthetruth[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.[/p][/quote]Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?[/p][/quote]Trouble 25 mins before the end of the match and 3 miles away. How does that make it footballs responsibility Lord TITford !!! So if I reverse in to someones car, because I am a football fan should the headline be Soccer Thug car smashing frenzy ?[/p][/quote]Nope, it just means your a sh*t driver ! bertnz

7:11am Tue 3 Aug 10

Ian B Brewers says...

Sounds just like a typical day in croydon without the guns and knives !
Sounds just like a typical day in croydon without the guns and knives ! Ian B Brewers

9:10am Tue 3 Aug 10

Le Chiffre says...

I like the use of the words 'up to' (100 football hooligans).
Is this the same use of the words we see in the blurb from ISPs -'up to 20 meg' when we actually get about 5.
Sloppy reporting, Argus.
I like the use of the words 'up to' (100 football hooligans). Is this the same use of the words we see in the blurb from ISPs -'up to 20 meg' when we actually get about 5. Sloppy reporting, Argus. Le Chiffre

10:09am Tue 3 Aug 10

Sweatshop Tachinardi says...

Billyboyarnold wrote:
Spurs fans at a Brighton v Aberdeen Friendly, "Get a life" your aving a larf. A coach load of lads on a day out had too much to drink, and it kicks off with the locals, what's wrong with that, it happens every week in every town in England, stop blowing up this incident into something it isn't.
Billyboyarnold.

Having been at the game I can confirm there WERE Spurs fans both at Withdean (left after about ten minutes) and in town.

I know this because they had a big banner with SPURS written on it...
[quote][p][bold]Billyboyarnold[/bold] wrote: Spurs fans at a Brighton v Aberdeen Friendly, "Get a life" your aving a larf. A coach load of lads on a day out had too much to drink, and it kicks off with the locals, what's wrong with that, it happens every week in every town in England, stop blowing up this incident into something it isn't.[/p][/quote]Billyboyarnold. Having been at the game I can confirm there WERE Spurs fans both at Withdean (left after about ten minutes) and in town. I know this because they had a big banner with SPURS written on it... Sweatshop Tachinardi

10:12am Tue 3 Aug 10

Captain Haddock says...

Some comically ignorant remarks from the anti-football brigade on here.

Good to see you embarrassing yourselves all over again.

This entire debate follows an article / appeal from The Argus, the paper who described a very minor disturbance at a recent cricket match in the city as 'football hooliganism'.

And now you make ill-founded judgement calls based on that.

We have no proof that there is any relationship between the friendly on Saturday and the 30 (THIRTY) thugs our eye-witness on here described (not up to 100 as reported in The ArseGas).

Were either of the groups anything to do with Scotland / Aberdeen? Nothing in the article suggests that.

Both gangs may also be from out of town as it was organised. If one group of thugs was prepared to travel for a fight, why not both?

As for the suggestion that clubs should foot the ENTIRE legal bill....oh dear oh dear! Where shall we draw the line? If a football fan refuses to pay his household bills, perhaps the club he supports should cough up for that too? Why on earth should my club (i.e the fans - via subsequent ticket price increases) pay for every Tom, Dick and Harry's anti-social behaviour.

As violence, even when it is related to football, is very much a SOCIAL problem, not a football problem (especially as football clubs have a strick and stringent policy on eradicating problems of this sort), perhaps we should all foot the bill (oh, we already do!!) and meantime hassle the people that should be accountable (apart from the knuckle-headed thugs themselves, of course)....the Government(s), who have been far too soft on crime for far too long.

Hooliganism is a very rare occurence at football nowadays, I and thousands of my fellow law-abiding footy fans, who actually know what we are talking about on the subject unlike the small-town Daily Mail (and Telegraph!!) ;0) readers on here, can vouch for that.
Some comically ignorant remarks from the anti-football brigade on here. Good to see you embarrassing yourselves all over again. This entire debate follows an article / appeal from The Argus, the paper who described a very minor disturbance at a recent cricket match in the city as 'football hooliganism'. And now you make ill-founded judgement calls based on that. We have no proof that there is any relationship between the friendly on Saturday and the 30 (THIRTY) thugs our eye-witness on here described (not up to 100 as reported in The ArseGas). Were either of the groups anything to do with Scotland / Aberdeen? Nothing in the article suggests that. Both gangs may also be from out of town as it was organised. If one group of thugs was prepared to travel for a fight, why not both? As for the suggestion that clubs should foot the ENTIRE legal bill....oh dear oh dear! Where shall we draw the line? If a football fan refuses to pay his household bills, perhaps the club he supports should cough up for that too? Why on earth should my club (i.e the fans - via subsequent ticket price increases) pay for every Tom, Dick and Harry's anti-social behaviour. As violence, even when it is related to football, is very much a SOCIAL problem, not a football problem (especially as football clubs have a strick and stringent policy on eradicating problems of this sort), perhaps we should all foot the bill (oh, we already do!!) and meantime hassle the people that should be accountable (apart from the knuckle-headed thugs themselves, of course)....the Government(s), who have been far too soft on crime for far too long. Hooliganism is a very rare occurence at football nowadays, I and thousands of my fellow law-abiding footy fans, who actually know what we are talking about on the subject unlike the small-town Daily Mail (and Telegraph!!) ;0) readers on here, can vouch for that. Captain Haddock

11:05am Tue 3 Aug 10

puddingandpi says...

I live right there & never noticed a thing!
I live right there & never noticed a thing! puddingandpi

12:29pm Tue 3 Aug 10

Ian B Brewers says...

I only get the sun mr hadock nothing wrong with that sunshine
I only get the sun mr hadock nothing wrong with that sunshine Ian B Brewers

12:32pm Tue 3 Aug 10

GermanSeagull says...

Lord Tilford wrote:
sdthetruth wrote:
Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.
Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?
And if not football they'll find an other reason, could even be cricket then.

They're not football related, they just use football as a cause.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Tilford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sdthetruth[/bold] wrote: Nothing to do with football. These thugs have always used a football match as an excuse to group up and look for trouble. The only way to stop it, like any crime, is to punish them severely. But as usual they get off scot free.[/p][/quote]Actually, it IS to do with football. If the match wasn't scheduled would the fight have taken place?[/p][/quote]And if not football they'll find an other reason, could even be cricket then. They're not football related, they just use football as a cause. GermanSeagull

12:46pm Tue 3 Aug 10

Captain Haddock says...

Ian B Brewers wrote:
I only get the sun mr hadock nothing wrong with that sunshine
You think??!! ;o)
[quote][p][bold]Ian B Brewers[/bold] wrote: I only get the sun mr hadock nothing wrong with that sunshine[/p][/quote]You think??!! ;o) Captain Haddock

12:57pm Tue 3 Aug 10

Uge says...

I love football but its losers like this that ruin the game for normal people like myself…

If you like fighting join a fight club of some sort…oh no sorry maybe your are not hard enough without your mates!!

Idiots!
I love football but its losers like this that ruin the game for normal people like myself… If you like fighting join a fight club of some sort…oh no sorry maybe your are not hard enough without your mates!! Idiots! Uge

1:15pm Tue 3 Aug 10

current scoffer says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Ian B Brewers wrote:
I only get the sun mr hadock nothing wrong with that sunshine
You think??!! ;o)
I thought you were an avid ten pence Daily Star reader Brian ? rofl!! I purchase the fifty pence Daily Mail - more for it's hard hitting, straight from the shoulder political views!! but not being a big soccer supporter I tend to steer clear of these kind of reports... perhaps someone can explain why Championship professional soccer players - arrive for 'training' at 8.30a.m. - 9a.m. and clear off at 1p.m. ? is there something in their contracts that stops them 'training' in the afternoons ??
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian B Brewers[/bold] wrote: I only get the sun mr hadock nothing wrong with that sunshine[/p][/quote]You think??!! ;o)[/p][/quote]I thought you were an avid ten pence Daily Star reader Brian ? rofl!! I purchase the fifty pence Daily Mail - more for it's hard hitting, straight from the shoulder political views!! but not being a big soccer supporter I tend to steer clear of these kind of reports... perhaps someone can explain why Championship professional soccer players - arrive for 'training' at 8.30a.m. - 9a.m. and clear off at 1p.m. ? is there something in their contracts that stops them 'training' in the afternoons ?? current scoffer

6:59am Wed 4 Aug 10

Ian B Brewers says...

Watch it scoff mate im a mon 2 sun man thru an thru
Dont know why footballers have to go early maybe they are going for a drink ha ha an excellent drink !
Watch it scoff mate im a mon 2 sun man thru an thru Dont know why footballers have to go early maybe they are going for a drink ha ha an excellent drink ! Ian B Brewers

11:12am Wed 4 Aug 10

ITK says...

aberdeen and spurs hooligans have close links with each other and often go to games together
aberdeen and spurs hooligans have close links with each other and often go to games together ITK

12:55pm Wed 4 Aug 10

current scoffer says...

Indeed Brewers... maybe they are all a tad thirsty and have to have a good session of ale ? it's well documented with certain soccer players who like(d) an excellent drink - Gazza was a real champion was he not ?? very much in the public domain he was... the 'dirty-thirty' hoolies from Crystal Palace became the 'dirty-twenty-someth
ing' when they got their collars felt after running amok on the transport network a couple of seasons ago... these oiks all need locking up where they can sing their tribal soccer songs to their hearts content!! rofl!! didn't what's-her-face used to start them off in the Arthur Daley stand ? #Ten green bottles... oh my sides!!
Indeed Brewers... maybe they are all a tad thirsty and have to have a good session of ale ? it's well documented with certain soccer players who like(d) an excellent drink - Gazza was a real champion was he not ?? very much in the public domain he was... the 'dirty-thirty' hoolies from Crystal Palace became the 'dirty-twenty-someth ing' when they got their collars felt after running amok on the transport network a couple of seasons ago... these oiks all need locking up where they can sing their tribal soccer songs to their hearts content!! rofl!! didn't what's-her-face used to start them off in the Arthur Daley stand ? #Ten green bottles... oh my sides!! current scoffer

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