Huge hike in London to Brighton rail fares

Train tickets from Brighton to London will rise by as much as 10.8% in January.

A Brighton to London season ticket on Southern rises 7.76% in January, going up from £3,556 to £3,832, while an Eastbourne to London season ticket increases 7.77% to £3,940.

Some off-peak Brighton to London day returns will rise 10.18% to £24.90 in January.

A weekly First Capital Connect season ticket from Brighton to London will rise from £77.60 to £80, and an annual ticket from £3,104 to £3,200 (3.1%).

A spokesman said: "First Capital Connect will continue to offer the cheapest prices for travel in and and out of London."

The Association of Train Operating Companies (Atoc) says nationally, fares will rise by an average of 6.2%.

Campaign for Better Transport's public transport campaigner Alexandra Woodsworth said: "These astronomical fare rises make a mockery of the Government's commitment to fair pricing for rail travel.

"Season tickets will cost hundreds of pounds more in the new year, and thousands of pounds more by the time of the next election.”

Gerry Doherty, leader of the TSSA rail union, said the rise was "simply outrageous".

Under the current annual price cap formula, fares can only increase each January by the previous July's RPI inflation rate plus 1%.

This means that in January 2011, regulated fares will rise by an average of 5.8%.

But this year, the Government has reintroduced the flexibility rule, which gives operators a 5% leeway on this, as long as overall the average rise nationally adheres to the cap.

And further misery will await passengers in January 2012 when the annual price rise formula changes to RPI plus 3% across the network.

Atoc chief executive Michael Roberts said today: "We know times are tough for many people but next year's fare increases will ensure that Britain can continue investing in its railways.”

He added that taxpayers still contributed to half the cost of running the railways.

Earlier this week, an objection from First Capital Connect led to the rail regulator scrapping plans for better Southern services between London and Brighton.

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1:56pm Tue 23 Nov 10

kraftwerker says...

I sense deja-vu!!! I remember commenting on last years' pay hike, and slandering the hopelessness of all those fat cats who've monopolised an essential part of the vast majority of those who have to use the railways to get to work. Shame on you for yet again lining your own pockets. You can't excuse such an increase at a time when we're bailing out Ireland, and having to stump up for an impending Royal Wedding in the Spring. Wrong wrong wrong...
I sense deja-vu!!! I remember commenting on last years' pay hike, and slandering the hopelessness of all those fat cats who've monopolised an essential part of the vast majority of those who have to use the railways to get to work. Shame on you for yet again lining your own pockets. You can't excuse such an increase at a time when we're bailing out Ireland, and having to stump up for an impending Royal Wedding in the Spring. Wrong wrong wrong... kraftwerker

1:59pm Tue 23 Nov 10

creativebloke says...

Don't you dare FCC try and match Southern's bare faced thievery don't you bl##dy dare. And don't give us the mewling, 'but we didn't raise fares' last year'. No you didn't because your service last year was incompetent and it was the least you could do

And don't think I haven't noticed your new site design makes claiming delay repayment 100% more irritating as your 'new' website refuses to save your details like your old one did.

I hate you First Capital Connect, I really hate you!
Nand I h
Don't you dare FCC try and match Southern's bare faced thievery don't you bl##dy dare. And don't give us the mewling, 'but we didn't raise fares' last year'. No you didn't because your service last year was incompetent and it was the least you could do And don't think I haven't noticed your new site design makes claiming delay repayment 100% more irritating as your 'new' website refuses to save your details like your old one did. I hate you First Capital Connect, I really hate you! Nand I h creativebloke

2:40pm Tue 23 Nov 10

Fercri Sakes says...

As long as we can keep Ireland's railway system running, that's all that matters ;)
As long as we can keep Ireland's railway system running, that's all that matters ;) Fercri Sakes

3:03pm Tue 23 Nov 10

Paul47 says...

Interesting figures from another news website to show where the money from fares actually goes.

48p in every £1 goes to Network Rail, which charges operators to access tracks and other infrastructure costs
17p on staff
17p on miscellaneous costs including train maintenance, administration, contractors
11p on leasing trains
4p on fuel/energy
3p to train company profit

So, the government owned Network Rail actually takes 15 times as much from fares in comparison to the profit for the train company actually running the service. Interesting...
Interesting figures from another news website to show where the money from fares actually goes. 48p in every £1 goes to Network Rail, which charges operators to access tracks and other infrastructure costs 17p on staff 17p on miscellaneous costs including train maintenance, administration, contractors 11p on leasing trains 4p on fuel/energy 3p to train company profit So, the government owned Network Rail actually takes 15 times as much from fares in comparison to the profit for the train company actually running the service. Interesting... Paul47

3:26pm Tue 23 Nov 10

Nick Brighton says...

That's fine. It's Tesco, Sainsburys and ASDA that'll lose out, as I'll have to reduce my weekly shop spend, to accommodate the hike in my season ticket. I'm a bit overweight anyway, so I can afford to go without. I'll just shift the money from one pot to another.
That's fine. It's Tesco, Sainsburys and ASDA that'll lose out, as I'll have to reduce my weekly shop spend, to accommodate the hike in my season ticket. I'm a bit overweight anyway, so I can afford to go without. I'll just shift the money from one pot to another. Nick Brighton

4:39pm Tue 23 Nov 10

tim_actually says...

Bleeding us dry...will the service get better with extra "revenue"? Will we have express trains? Will Go-Ahead directors have pay freezes on their massive salaries? No, No, No... Travelling by train in this country is going to be pointless soon for most average waged commuters..
Bleeding us dry...will the service get better with extra "revenue"? Will we have express trains? Will Go-Ahead directors have pay freezes on their massive salaries? No, No, No... Travelling by train in this country is going to be pointless soon for most average waged commuters.. tim_actually

4:44pm Tue 23 Nov 10

Colin Houlson says...

FCC? Scum.
FCC? Scum. Colin Houlson

5:23pm Tue 23 Nov 10

kkj says...

Paul47 wrote:
Interesting figures from another news website to show where the money from fares actually goes. 48p in every £1 goes to Network Rail, which charges operators to access tracks and other infrastructure costs 17p on staff 17p on miscellaneous costs including train maintenance, administration, contractors 11p on leasing trains 4p on fuel/energy 3p to train company profit So, the government owned Network Rail actually takes 15 times as much from fares in comparison to the profit for the train company actually running the service. Interesting...
Or to put it another way, 48p goes to Network Rail and 52p goes to the train company, of which 3p is profit. If you can show that Network Rail takes a greater profit than the operating company then that might be interesting...
[quote][p][bold]Paul47[/bold] wrote: Interesting figures from another news website to show where the money from fares actually goes. 48p in every £1 goes to Network Rail, which charges operators to access tracks and other infrastructure costs 17p on staff 17p on miscellaneous costs including train maintenance, administration, contractors 11p on leasing trains 4p on fuel/energy 3p to train company profit So, the government owned Network Rail actually takes 15 times as much from fares in comparison to the profit for the train company actually running the service. Interesting...[/p][/quote]Or to put it another way, 48p goes to Network Rail and 52p goes to the train company, of which 3p is profit. If you can show that Network Rail takes a greater profit than the operating company then that might be interesting... kkj

5:43pm Tue 23 Nov 10

chipmunk77 says...

£3832 a year, still quite a bit cheaper than running a car to travel that sort of distance though!

Costs me more than that to run a car in insurance, fuel, road tax, repairs, and depreciation for my 80 mile round trip!

Mind you, at least I have a seat unlike a lot on the trains these days, and nobody sat with a can of Special Brew in the next seat!
£3832 a year, still quite a bit cheaper than running a car to travel that sort of distance though! Costs me more than that to run a car in insurance, fuel, road tax, repairs, and depreciation for my 80 mile round trip! Mind you, at least I have a seat unlike a lot on the trains these days, and nobody sat with a can of Special Brew in the next seat! chipmunk77

6:20pm Tue 23 Nov 10

youpayme says...

security word muppet if you go to london to work! my neighbour does lol...and I have an extra beddroom and nicer telly and he and most of my neigbouhrs pay me lol lol lol..security words idiots get up in the moning working for nothing...thank you
security word muppet if you go to london to work! my neighbour does lol...and I have an extra beddroom and nicer telly and he and most of my neigbouhrs pay me lol lol lol..security words idiots get up in the moning working for nothing...thank you youpayme

6:40pm Tue 23 Nov 10

Angryoldman says...

And what is everyone going to do about it?
Nothing! thats what.
And what is everyone going to do about it? Nothing! thats what. Angryoldman

7:37pm Tue 23 Nov 10

SirLancelot says...

Nick-more like you. If we were all a bit thinner we might be able to get in a carriage.
Nick-more like you. If we were all a bit thinner we might be able to get in a carriage. SirLancelot

8:36pm Tue 23 Nov 10

ghost bus driver says...

That's not the worst of it. Ludeman recently awarded himself a huge pay hike, then announced his retirement (on final salary pension, naturally). I can't say I'm surprised though. Moir Lockhead, Chief executive of First is also retiring on, you guessed it, final salary pension. All I can say to him is good riddance and I hope we never see your like again.
That's not the worst of it. Ludeman recently awarded himself a huge pay hike, then announced his retirement (on final salary pension, naturally). I can't say I'm surprised though. Moir Lockhead, Chief executive of First is also retiring on, you guessed it, final salary pension. All I can say to him is good riddance and I hope we never see your like again. ghost bus driver

9:04pm Tue 23 Nov 10

Bristol VR says...

I's amazing that there is all this fuss about a 10% hike in train fares but no one has contested all the privately owned energy companies who put their prices up by an average of 43% two years ago and only brought them down by a mere 7-10% since when the wholesale price of gas & electricity has halved in that time... The railways putting tjeir fares up by about 10% on;y affects a small percentage of the populus yet we all accept a 43% increase without a murmur??? double standards!
I's amazing that there is all this fuss about a 10% hike in train fares but no one has contested all the privately owned energy companies who put their prices up by an average of 43% two years ago and only brought them down by a mere 7-10% since when the wholesale price of gas & electricity has halved in that time... The railways putting tjeir fares up by about 10% on;y affects a small percentage of the populus yet we all accept a 43% increase without a murmur??? double standards! Bristol VR

9:42pm Tue 23 Nov 10

TheInsider says...

Britain sold off everything it every owned under Thatcher and this current lot of Tories are now borrowing money to lend to the Irish.
You can't blame foreign owners of UK energy companies from ripping off the British. We were mugs.
We've even taken to selling off our football clubs and a beach in Newhaven.
How much for the Royal family? I hear fergie has a price.
Britain sold off everything it every owned under Thatcher and this current lot of Tories are now borrowing money to lend to the Irish. You can't blame foreign owners of UK energy companies from ripping off the British. We were mugs. We've even taken to selling off our football clubs and a beach in Newhaven. How much for the Royal family? I hear fergie has a price. TheInsider

10:02pm Tue 23 Nov 10

deve says...

So looks like we may get more cars on the roads due to the rise in train fares. Lets hope Brighton council open their eyes and see that they need to make lcars a priority and not treat cars as a cash cow. Remove some of the bus lanes, increase parking places and decrease parking costs. Do something positive and encourage people into Brighton - give something back to people who support and use Brighton.
So looks like we may get more cars on the roads due to the rise in train fares. Lets hope Brighton council open their eyes and see that they need to make lcars a priority and not treat cars as a cash cow. Remove some of the bus lanes, increase parking places and decrease parking costs. Do something positive and encourage people into Brighton - give something back to people who support and use Brighton. deve

10:18pm Tue 23 Nov 10

Bristol VR says...

Cars do nothing but clog our towns & cities with vehicles. One person in each car taking up loads of spaces is far less economical than 50 odd people on a bus. Brighton is not and never will be suitable for cars in large numbers and the sooner some people get that around their "i'm alright jack" minds the better we will all be!
To have public transport, you have to pay for it. If you don't like tax rises then accept a train fare rise instead!
Cars do nothing but clog our towns & cities with vehicles. One person in each car taking up loads of spaces is far less economical than 50 odd people on a bus. Brighton is not and never will be suitable for cars in large numbers and the sooner some people get that around their "i'm alright jack" minds the better we will all be! To have public transport, you have to pay for it. If you don't like tax rises then accept a train fare rise instead! Bristol VR

11:10pm Tue 23 Nov 10

Metro Reader says...

Oh argus one wishes you would actually just for once give meaning to your sensational headlines. When you give figures, please explain them. I get the train to Victoria each working day, that’s Monday to Friday for the argus hacks, which costs £3200 and a few pounds PA.
The figures quoted are for London Terminals, such as Victoria, AND London Bridge etc etc. But the Argus hacks do not care about reporting anything either accurate or meaningful.
For the record, I object to paying even more to get to the office and get a decent wage, but I want it reported correctly and without any over the top rubbish reporting, which takes away the scandalous cost of getting to and from work.
Oh argus one wishes you would actually just for once give meaning to your sensational headlines. When you give figures, please explain them. I get the train to Victoria each working day, that’s Monday to Friday for the argus hacks, which costs £3200 and a few pounds PA. The figures quoted are for London Terminals, such as Victoria, AND London Bridge etc etc. But the Argus hacks do not care about reporting anything either accurate or meaningful. For the record, I object to paying even more to get to the office and get a decent wage, but I want it reported correctly and without any over the top rubbish reporting, which takes away the scandalous cost of getting to and from work. Metro Reader

7:42am Wed 24 Nov 10

pun master says...

Metro Reader wrote:
Oh argus one wishes you would actually just for once give meaning to your sensational headlines. When you give figures, please explain them. I get the train to Victoria each working day, that’s Monday to Friday for the argus hacks, which costs £3200 and a few pounds PA. The figures quoted are for London Terminals, such as Victoria, AND London Bridge etc etc. But the Argus hacks do not care about reporting anything either accurate or meaningful. For the record, I object to paying even more to get to the office and get a decent wage, but I want it reported correctly and without any over the top rubbish reporting, which takes away the scandalous cost of getting to and from work.
Get a life, get a job nearer to where you live, and stop moaning about rail fares. You've had it subsidised for too long by the rest of us, so it's payback time...
[quote][p][bold]Metro Reader[/bold] wrote: Oh argus one wishes you would actually just for once give meaning to your sensational headlines. When you give figures, please explain them. I get the train to Victoria each working day, that’s Monday to Friday for the argus hacks, which costs £3200 and a few pounds PA. The figures quoted are for London Terminals, such as Victoria, AND London Bridge etc etc. But the Argus hacks do not care about reporting anything either accurate or meaningful. For the record, I object to paying even more to get to the office and get a decent wage, but I want it reported correctly and without any over the top rubbish reporting, which takes away the scandalous cost of getting to and from work.[/p][/quote]Get a life, get a job nearer to where you live, and stop moaning about rail fares. You've had it subsidised for too long by the rest of us, so it's payback time... pun master

10:54am Wed 24 Nov 10

David523 says...

this is the fault of the CONSERVATIVE and Lib Dem government who changed rules to allow this.




Time to show how you feel




STRIKE AND PROTEST!!!!
this is the fault of the CONSERVATIVE and Lib Dem government who changed rules to allow this. Time to show how you feel STRIKE AND PROTEST!!!! David523

1:43pm Wed 24 Nov 10

ultiali says...

David523 wrote:
this is the fault of the CONSERVATIVE and Lib Dem government who changed rules to allow this. Time to show how you feel STRIKE AND PROTEST!!!!
Wrong!!! Those new rules don't come in until 2012. The high rises are due to the high RPI figure in July last year, caused by the Labour Government
[quote][p][bold]David523[/bold] wrote: this is the fault of the CONSERVATIVE and Lib Dem government who changed rules to allow this. Time to show how you feel STRIKE AND PROTEST!!!![/p][/quote]Wrong!!! Those new rules don't come in until 2012. The high rises are due to the high RPI figure in July last year, caused by the Labour Government ultiali

4:37pm Wed 24 Nov 10

David523 says...

To 'ultiali'...

Aha ha ha, a ha haa ha!! You actually believe that load of Tory spin! Takes all sorts I suppose...
To 'ultiali'... Aha ha ha, a ha haa ha!! You actually believe that load of Tory spin! Takes all sorts I suppose... David523

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