Cyclists attacked with eggs in Brighton and Hove (From The Argus)
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Cyclists attacked with eggs in Brighton and Hove
11:10am Thursday 15th September 2011 in News By James Wallin
A spate of attacks against cyclists has seen them pelted with eggs by angry drivers.
Riders claim the pranks could go badly wrong and have urged other victims to report any attacks to the police.
Denise Blanks, from Mile Oak in Portslade, was hit on the back by an egg flung from a white van while cycling in Upper Beeding on Tuesday afternoon.
The 49-year-old was quick to capture the registration plate of the bad egg and police are now investigating.
But it is the second time she has been attacked while cycling.
She said: “I don’t understand why anyone would want to do it but it has happened to me twice and I’m sure other people have had the same experience.
Adrian Imms, 27, from Patcham, was attacked last month while riding along London Road in Brighton.
He said: “This is people going out specifically to chuck eggs at cyclists. That’s quite a sad way to spend your Friday night."
A Sussex Police spokeswoman said: “We take any reports of assaults on cyclists very seriously.”
Comments(98)
Andy R
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11:17am Thu 15 Sep 11
I thought
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11:19am Thu 15 Sep 11
Hove Central wrote:Its about time people like you found something better to do with your time, instead of posting ridiculous comments on sites like this. Do people throw eggs at thugs, at criminals generally at cars speeding, at people not paying their fines etc etc.
It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
Grow up, get real and get a life
Hove Central
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11:20am Thu 15 Sep 11
Andy R wrote:Fair comment - why is this Argus?
Why does this report say that the motorists are "angry"? "Reckless", "criminal" and "hooligan" would seem to be more appropriate descriptions
Andy R
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11:20am Thu 15 Sep 11
Hove Central wrote:What a load of self-justifying nonsense. It's ok to pelt other road-users because of some perceived bias in traffic enforcement??? Engage brain before keyboard!
It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
Brightonscouse2
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11:20am Thu 15 Sep 11
Hove Central wrote:I was just about to say how long will it take for the comments about cyclists start, before I read your comment.
It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
This has nothing to do with cyclists not adhering to the rules of the road.
We've had stories about motorists attacking a cyclists with a hammer, and now eggs. In comparison the only adverse story about cyclists is then riding on Hove prom when they're told not to.
I thought
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11:21am Thu 15 Sep 11
Andy R wrote:Another worthless set of comments. Get real
Why does this report say that the motorists are "angry"? "Reckless", "criminal" and "hooligan" would seem to be more appropriate descriptions
Maxwell's Ghost
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11:22am Thu 15 Sep 11
Sadly for them I caught up with them in traffic, spotted where they parked and I let all four tyres down.
The car had foreign plates on so I had no confidence that Sussex Police's Operation Crackdown where you can report online traffic incidents, would deal with these louts.
Hove Central
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11:25am Thu 15 Sep 11
Andy R wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it? Read post before engaging keyboard.
Hove Central wrote:What a load of self-justifying nonsense. It's ok to pelt other road-users because of some perceived bias in traffic enforcement??? Engage brain before keyboard!
It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
I thought
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11:26am Thu 15 Sep 11
Hove Central wrote:Your comment is ridiculous, get real
Andy R wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it? Read post before engaging keyboard.
Hove Central wrote:What a load of self-justifying nonsense. It's ok to pelt other road-users because of some perceived bias in traffic enforcement??? Engage brain before keyboard!
It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
Hove Central
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11:28am Thu 15 Sep 11
I thought wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it?
Hove Central wrote:Your comment is ridiculous, get real
Andy R wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it? Read post before engaging keyboard.
Hove Central wrote:What a load of self-justifying nonsense. It's ok to pelt other road-users because of some perceived bias in traffic enforcement??? Engage brain before keyboard!
It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
I thought
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11:31am Thu 15 Sep 11
Hove Central wrote:Read my previous comment and then reflect.
I thought wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it?
Hove Central wrote:Your comment is ridiculous, get real
Andy R wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it? Read post before engaging keyboard.
Hove Central wrote:What a load of self-justifying nonsense. It's ok to pelt other road-users because of some perceived bias in traffic enforcement??? Engage brain before keyboard!
It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
I suggest you stop posting comments for a few days until you can make a point that is relevant!
Thoughts?
Hove Central
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11:37am Thu 15 Sep 11
I thought wrote:My original comment makes no excuse for such behaviour. There are though a minority of car drivers who feel hard done by in terms of traffic enforcement. This is reflected in the media over the past months and years, as well as this forum. I don't think they're right to behave like this but until they observe a cyclist being pinched going through a red light or similar, some of them wil not be happy. Please point me to where I said it was okay to throw eggs at cyclists.
Hove Central wrote:Read my previous comment and then reflect.
I thought wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it?
Hove Central wrote:Your comment is ridiculous, get real
Andy R wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it? Read post before engaging keyboard.
Hove Central wrote:What a load of self-justifying nonsense. It's ok to pelt other road-users because of some perceived bias in traffic enforcement??? Engage brain before keyboard!
It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
I suggest you stop posting comments for a few days until you can make a point that is relevant!
Thoughts?
Pitviper
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11:41am Thu 15 Sep 11
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:do you not think your behaviour was as bad as theirs?
I am a responsible cyclist and car driver. When on my bike I am courteous to drivers, wear all the kit and observe the highway code. This did not stop a group of men driving past me in a Peugeot 205 and spittig at me. Sadly for them I caught up with them in traffic, spotted where they parked and I let all four tyres down. The car had foreign plates on so I had no confidence that Sussex Police's Operation Crackdown where you can report online traffic incidents, would deal with these louts.
As for operation crackdown, biggest waste of money ever!
lfcrule1972
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11:53am Thu 15 Sep 11
No one should do this....
Maxwell's Ghost
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11:59am Thu 15 Sep 11
However, when you have had two men gobbing phlegm into your face and laughing and then giving you a mastburbation sign for no reason and you know the UK law will not help you, letting down four tyres and causing them an inconvenience may teach them a lesson not to pick on people smaller and more vulnerable than them.
Think of that biblical tale David and Goliath.
Brighton_Belle
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12:01pm Thu 15 Sep 11
I thought wrote:Dude! You've posted some right crud on here - thoughts I would like to put forward are : pot, kettle, black. ;)
Hove Central wrote:Read my previous comment and then reflect. I suggest you stop posting comments for a few days until you can make a point that is relevant! Thoughts?I thought wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it?Hove Central wrote:Your comment is ridiculous, get realAndy R wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it? Read post before engaging keyboard.Hove Central wrote: It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.What a load of self-justifying nonsense. It's ok to pelt other road-users because of some perceived bias in traffic enforcement??? Engage brain before keyboard!
I see Hove Central's point. There are people out there who feel hard done by when it comes to cyclists and until this perception changes then this may continue.
Or of course it could just be idiots and trouble makers, without speaking to them personally their motivation will not be known.
Pitviper
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12:19pm Thu 15 Sep 11
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:still means you descended to their level what ever way you look at it
Ptiviper...yes. However, when you have had two men gobbing phlegm into your face and laughing and then giving you a mastburbation sign for no reason and you know the UK law will not help you, letting down four tyres and causing them an inconvenience may teach them a lesson not to pick on people smaller and more vulnerable than them. Think of that biblical tale David and Goliath.
kerryfee
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12:21pm Thu 15 Sep 11
Brightonscouse2 wrote:The only adverse story about cyclists is riding on Hove prom ?
Hove Central wrote: It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.I was just about to say how long will it take for the comments about cyclists start, before I read your comment. This has nothing to do with cyclists not adhering to the rules of the road. We've had stories about motorists attacking a cyclists with a hammer, and now eggs. In comparison the only adverse story about cyclists is then riding on Hove prom when they're told not to.
I seem to remember that it was a cyclist who recently murdered a green grocer in Portslade !!
I thought
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12:24pm Thu 15 Sep 11
Brighton_Belle wrote:What !!!!!!
I thought wrote:Dude! You've posted some right crud on here - thoughts I would like to put forward are : pot, kettle, black. ;)
Hove Central wrote:Read my previous comment and then reflect. I suggest you stop posting comments for a few days until you can make a point that is relevant! Thoughts?I thought wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it?Hove Central wrote:Your comment is ridiculous, get realAndy R wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it? Read post before engaging keyboard.Hove Central wrote: It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.What a load of self-justifying nonsense. It's ok to pelt other road-users because of some perceived bias in traffic enforcement??? Engage brain before keyboard!
I see Hove Central's point. There are people out there who feel hard done by when it comes to cyclists and until this perception changes then this may continue.
Or of course it could just be idiots and trouble makers, without speaking to them personally their motivation will not be known.
Brighton Belle and Hove Central are clearly one and the same and can't string one useful sentence together.
Andre Spooner
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12:26pm Thu 15 Sep 11
My poor horse is a wary character at the best of times, and when we discovered we were under attack from some fruit-hurling hooligan he became even more distressed. I can assure you, brute melon thrower, that it took me a full twenty minutes of brushing the salty tears from the cheeks of my dear Mighty Horse before he was in any condition to continue our promenade.
But I ask you, what sort of society is this that allows fiends to hurl fresh produce at passers by, whatever their means of transport. If the watermelon had not been fatally damaged by its brief passage through the air, I would have enjoyed a free melony breakfast. As it was, me and my Horse had to eat a substandard omelette scraped from the back of an unfortunate cyclist who had been splattered with albumen during another of these attacks.
Something must be done, or I warn you, the good people of Brighton and Hove will rise up! I am already fitting a siege catapult to the back of my Mighty Horse, and am quite prepared to hurl Spooner-Vegetable-Da
rts (they are like a normal dart, but the prong is a sharpened carrot, and instead of feathers on the end there are flattened bits of brocolli) at any vengeful food throwing motorists. I warn you, denziens of the road, that I, Spooner, shall ride in glory upon the burnt-out wreckage of your vehicles if you dare attack other road users with groceries. Beware! Beware! Spooner rides again!
LB
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12:32pm Thu 15 Sep 11
but he wasn't on a bike when he did it so it was a pedestrian that killed Tony, surely?
No one deserves to be assaulted by someone else just because of their choice of transport?
GIVE UP
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12:33pm Thu 15 Sep 11
Brighton_Belle
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12:43pm Thu 15 Sep 11
I thought wrote:Thanks for the feedback. Can't say I found it useful. I guess useful is in the eye of the reader in this case ;)
Brighton_Belle wrote:What !!!!!! Brighton Belle and Hove Central are clearly one and the same and can't string one useful sentence together.I thought wrote:Dude! You've posted some right crud on here - thoughts I would like to put forward are : pot, kettle, black. ;) I see Hove Central's point. There are people out there who feel hard done by when it comes to cyclists and until this perception changes then this may continue. Or of course it could just be idiots and trouble makers, without speaking to them personally their motivation will not be known.Hove Central wrote:Read my previous comment and then reflect. I suggest you stop posting comments for a few days until you can make a point that is relevant! Thoughts?I thought wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it?Hove Central wrote:Your comment is ridiculous, get realAndy R wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it? Read post before engaging keyboard.Hove Central wrote: It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.What a load of self-justifying nonsense. It's ok to pelt other road-users because of some perceived bias in traffic enforcement??? Engage brain before keyboard!
I find you quite funny in an odd way, you crack on with whatever makes you happy - even if that is being a total hypocrite and self-appointed-forum police :)
Serenus Zeitblom
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12:47pm Thu 15 Sep 11
How about actually condemning these assaults? Have you actually considered what would happen if a cyclist hit by an egg swerved into traffic? No, didn't think so, because to do so would require imagination, empathy and brains.
If you go out in Brighton on a bike you are routinely abused by people shouting, carving you up, parking in your cycle lanes. How many cyclists' brains spattered across the road will it take before pig-ignorant comments like Hove Central's will cease?
ecw
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12:48pm Thu 15 Sep 11
GIVE UP wrote:Leave him (or her) alone - they deserved everything they got. I can't believe there are people who think someone shouldn't react when they get spat upon for no reason. Maxwell's Ghost is my hero for the day.
Maxwell's Ghost..l don't belief for one minute that you let down all four tyres on this car which happened to have foreign number plates would've taken to long and if your going start taking Quotes from the bible and start by acting like a CHRISTIAN
ecw
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12:58pm Thu 15 Sep 11
Serenus Zeitblom wrote:Hear Hear! I second that - well said You.
How typical. Cyclists are victims of violent and dangerous assaults and the usual gang of knuckle-draggers and morons are out making excuses.
How about actually condemning these assaults? Have you actually considered what would happen if a cyclist hit by an egg swerved into traffic? No, didn't think so, because to do so would require imagination, empathy and brains.
If you go out in Brighton on a bike you are routinely abused by people shouting, carving you up, parking in your cycle lanes. How many cyclists' brains spattered across the road will it take before pig-ignorant comments like Hove Central's will cease?
Brightonscouse2
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1:13pm Thu 15 Sep 11
kerryfee wrote:I meant to say recently.
Brightonscouse2 wrote:The only adverse story about cyclists is riding on Hove prom ?
Hove Central wrote: It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.I was just about to say how long will it take for the comments about cyclists start, before I read your comment. This has nothing to do with cyclists not adhering to the rules of the road. We've had stories about motorists attacking a cyclists with a hammer, and now eggs. In comparison the only adverse story about cyclists is then riding on Hove prom when they're told not to.
I seem to remember that it was a cyclist who recently murdered a green grocer in Portslade !!
Brightonscouse2
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1:13pm Thu 15 Sep 11
StvSeagulls
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1:16pm Thu 15 Sep 11
twosugars
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1:17pm Thu 15 Sep 11
Andre Spooner wrote:It sounds like you and your mighty steed were the victims of a drive by fruiting.
This is shocking! I cannot believe that people would carry out such dangerous attacks! I was riding atop my Mighty Horse on our morning gallop from Hove Lagoon to the Marina the other day, accompaned with great fanfare from the Powerful Trumpet of Spooner (it is an ordinary trumpet but much louder and it makes a sound a bit like a charging deer) when some rogue in a pick up truck hurled what can only have been a watermelon at me! The watermelon hit me in the side of the head and caused me to drop my Powerful Trumpet and very nearly fall from the back of my Mighty Horse. My poor horse is a wary character at the best of times, and when we discovered we were under attack from some fruit-hurling hooligan he became even more distressed. I can assure you, brute melon thrower, that it took me a full twenty minutes of brushing the salty tears from the cheeks of my dear Mighty Horse before he was in any condition to continue our promenade. But I ask you, what sort of society is this that allows fiends to hurl fresh produce at passers by, whatever their means of transport. If the watermelon had not been fatally damaged by its brief passage through the air, I would have enjoyed a free melony breakfast. As it was, me and my Horse had to eat a substandard omelette scraped from the back of an unfortunate cyclist who had been splattered with albumen during another of these attacks. Something must be done, or I warn you, the good people of Brighton and Hove will rise up! I am already fitting a siege catapult to the back of my Mighty Horse, and am quite prepared to hurl Spooner-Vegetable-Da rts (they are like a normal dart, but the prong is a sharpened carrot, and instead of feathers on the end there are flattened bits of brocolli) at any vengeful food throwing motorists. I warn you, denziens of the road, that I, Spooner, shall ride in glory upon the burnt-out wreckage of your vehicles if you dare attack other road users with groceries. Beware! Beware! Spooner rides again!
A ballista would also be handy for discouraging traffic wardens. dont fit a trebuchet, they affect roadholding terribly and can damage low bridges.
sassy2929
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1:22pm Thu 15 Sep 11
StvSeagulls
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1:44pm Thu 15 Sep 11
StvSeagulls
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1:45pm Thu 15 Sep 11
sassy2929
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1:51pm Thu 15 Sep 11
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:I would have done the same thing. Good on you!
Ptiviper...yes.
However, when you have had two men gobbing phlegm into your face and laughing and then giving you a mastburbation sign for no reason and you know the UK law will not help you, letting down four tyres and causing them an inconvenience may teach them a lesson not to pick on people smaller and more vulnerable than them.
Think of that biblical tale David and Goliath.
Lady Smith
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1:59pm Thu 15 Sep 11
fascinator
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2:00pm Thu 15 Sep 11
StvSeagulls wrote:far from it - we should be eggstending it.
Time for me to eggs-it this thread! ;0)
Let's not send it to an old yolk's home yet
Andy R
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2:07pm Thu 15 Sep 11
Hove Central wrote:"Did I say it was OK to do it?"
I thought wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it?Hove Central wrote:Your comment is ridiculous, get realAndy R wrote:Did I say it was okay to do it? Read post before engaging keyboard.Hove Central wrote: It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.What a load of self-justifying nonsense. It's ok to pelt other road-users because of some perceived bias in traffic enforcement??? Engage brain before keyboard!
Well...yes....pretty much...you did. If that was not your intention then I'm glad to hear it.
Incidentally, while he can claim some provocation, Maxwell's Ghost's actions were also wrong.
I thought
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2:33pm Thu 15 Sep 11
People have no thoughts for the welfare of small entrepreneurs trying to turn an honest bob.
I thought
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3:01pm Thu 15 Sep 11
As you know it is always about ADDED VALUE with me.
I shall be selling 20 minute HARD BOILED Eggs at £3.00 a dozen (£3.85 for Organic Free Range)
Hove Lagoon near the Grazing Steed, 4.00 pm till Dusk..
sassy2929
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3:52pm Thu 15 Sep 11
I thought wrote:That's rather Egg-spensive!!!
OKAY!
As you know it is always about ADDED VALUE with me.
I shall be selling 20 minute HARD BOILED Eggs at £3.00 a dozen (£3.85 for Organic Free Range)
Hove Lagoon near the Grazing Steed, 4.00 pm till Dusk..
Maxwell's Ghost
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4:07pm Thu 15 Sep 11
And pitviper do you really think these people care about anyone.
I thought
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4:20pm Thu 15 Sep 11
sassy2929 wrote:Egg-S-actly
I thought wrote:That's rather Egg-spensive!!!
OKAY!
As you know it is always about ADDED VALUE with me.
I shall be selling 20 minute HARD BOILED Eggs at £3.00 a dozen (£3.85 for Organic Free Range)
Hove Lagoon near the Grazing Steed, 4.00 pm till Dusk..
davyboy
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10:33pm Thu 15 Sep 11
Stinkhorn
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10:48pm Thu 15 Sep 11
Ivanna Goodhump
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12:06am Fri 16 Sep 11
Hove Central wrote:Here here. Poor ickle cyclist got egged. Did it stain your poofey lycra diddums. - God, get a life - it's hardly crime of the century.
It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
Bryan555
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12:08am Fri 16 Sep 11
On a serious note, I hope no one gets injured. Nobody should be assaulted, no matter what their mode of transport.
Bryan555
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12:18am Fri 16 Sep 11
Ivanna Goodhump wrote:The police enforce the law in fairly good proportion to the threat IMHO. I don't want the police wasting time on idiots that are really only a danger to themselves. I would rather they went after those that cause the most harm.
Hove Central wrote:Here here. Poor ickle cyclist got egged. Did it stain your poofey lycra diddums. - God, get a life - it's hardly crime of the century.
It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against cyclists as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to do this. Of course it may just be some chavs out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
Ivanna, are you gay?
Bryan555
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12:18am Fri 16 Sep 11
Ivanna, are you gay?
Baldseagull
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2:32am Fri 16 Sep 11
Andre Spooner wrote:It is sad that these things should be happening but until the police enforce the law as rigourously against equestrian trumpeters as they do car drivers on the road, people may continue to pelt horse riding musicians with fruit. Of course it may just be some greengrocers out on a Friday night 'having a laugh'.
This is shocking! I cannot believe that people would carry out such dangerous attacks! I was riding atop my Mighty Horse on our morning gallop from Hove Lagoon to the Marina the other day, accompaned with great fanfare from the Powerful Trumpet of Spooner (it is an ordinary trumpet but much louder and it makes a sound a bit like a charging deer) when some rogue in a pick up truck hurled what can only have been a watermelon at me! The watermelon hit me in the side of the head and caused me to drop my Powerful Trumpet and very nearly fall from the back of my Mighty Horse.
My poor horse is a wary character at the best of times, and when we discovered we were under attack from some fruit-hurling hooligan he became even more distressed. I can assure you, brute melon thrower, that it took me a full twenty minutes of brushing the salty tears from the cheeks of my dear Mighty Horse before he was in any condition to continue our promenade.
But I ask you, what sort of society is this that allows fiends to hurl fresh produce at passers by, whatever their means of transport. If the watermelon had not been fatally damaged by its brief passage through the air, I would have enjoyed a free melony breakfast. As it was, me and my Horse had to eat a substandard omelette scraped from the back of an unfortunate cyclist who had been splattered with albumen during another of these attacks.
Something must be done, or I warn you, the good people of Brighton and Hove will rise up! I am already fitting a siege catapult to the back of my Mighty Horse, and am quite prepared to hurl Spooner-Vegetable-Da
rts (they are like a normal dart, but the prong is a sharpened carrot, and instead of feathers on the end there are flattened bits of brocolli) at any vengeful food throwing motorists. I warn you, denziens of the road, that I, Spooner, shall ride in glory upon the burnt-out wreckage of your vehicles if you dare attack other road users with groceries. Beware! Beware! Spooner rides again!
I thought
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5:59am Fri 16 Sep 11
Stinkhorn wrote:Oh hark you telling others what to do. Please refrain!
OK, I'm going to briefly join the loopy, self-serving, deconstructive, irrelevant scrum here. 'I thought' - over time you've been countless other posters on here haven't you? In one of your many posts in this thread you encouraged feedback by way of 'thoughts'. I have one, and it's this: get up from your desk, go outside and get *yourself* a life for once. Can you take a dose of the medicine you so arbitrarily offer others? It's a mark of good character to be able to say 'yes'.
Bryan555
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9:01am Fri 16 Sep 11
monkeymoo wrote:I understand your anger and frustration, but don't let a few numptys bring you down to their level mate.
If off out on my bike today...Im taking some brake fluid and paint stripper with me.
Any motorist i see that is on a mobile phone, or driving above the speed limit, i will cover their car with pre-mentioned fluids. This will cost them £100's in a respray.....YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
As people before have commented, its ok to be violent against cyclists, then i deem it ok to do what i like to motorists. If anyone feels brave enough to comment on this "hiding" behind a computer, Then just look out for me.....I'll be on a grey and white mountain bike, black helmet. Cycling up and down Brighton seafront and side roads all day.
Much love to all.xx
The best response to motorist anger is to smile and wave and wish them a safe journey. They are then left in their car feeling fat and angry all day, whilst you cycle off knowing you are the better person.
Attacking anyone or their property is not ok, no matter how badly they behave wether it be eggs, hammers or baseball bats.
Tale it easy, and have a safe journey.
I thought
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9:16am Fri 16 Sep 11
monkeymoo wrote:Gosh, reminds me of that film where the guy loses the plot.
If off out on my bike today...Im taking some brake fluid and paint stripper with me.
Any motorist i see that is on a mobile phone, or driving above the speed limit, i will cover their car with pre-mentioned fluids. This will cost them £100's in a respray.....YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
As people before have commented, its ok to be violent against cyclists, then i deem it ok to do what i like to motorists. If anyone feels brave enough to comment on this "hiding" behind a computer, Then just look out for me.....I'll be on a grey and white mountain bike, black helmet. Cycling up and down Brighton seafront and side roads all day.
Much love to all.xx
Could be quite a confusing day for naughty motorists as I too will be out on my bike this afternoon, also a grey and white mountain bike, however I won't have paint stripper or brake fluid, just a large smile and a tanned and toned body.
Hopefully unsuspecting motorists will enjoy the carrot as well as the stick.
ps not sure what the etiquette on threatening online is, seems poor show to me and smacks of desperation.
brighton69
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10:15am Fri 16 Sep 11
I thought
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11:24am Fri 16 Sep 11
Bryan555
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11:25am Fri 16 Sep 11
brighton69 wrote:I suppose that would depend on your perspective. Being assaulted is, I would imagine, is more annoying than ill thought through and under-used cycle lanes.
Well, whilst I agree it’s not very nice I have to say it can’t be as annoying as seeing those cycle lanes on the sea front and down The Drive that cost £100,000 + empty while cyclist clog up the roads! What a waste of money!
The suggestion that cyclists 'are clogging up the roads' is, however, rather inaccurate to be polite.
Cyclists have the right to cycle on the roads, and in using them they are not, in fact clogging them up, they are simply using them.
The only thing that appears to fit your description of 'clogging up the roads' is traffic jams. Increased cycle use is an effective way to reduce the number of cars on the roads. less clogging.
brighton69
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12:06pm Fri 16 Sep 11
25standard
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12:42pm Fri 16 Sep 11
brighton69 wrote:Let's be completely honest cycle lanes are amazing! I can't think of one bad point...
I see where your coming from but come on........ You have to agree there is nothing more annoying than an empty cycle lane and next to it people in silly tight tops taking up a whole lane on the seafront?
Codeword massive lips
voiceofthescoombe
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1:00pm Fri 16 Sep 11
Would you drive on a road where you were expected to brake every 10 yards?
That's why cyclists don't use cycle lanes the council may have provided said lane but unless its use is faster than cycling on the road its not going to be used.
Bryan555
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1:03pm Fri 16 Sep 11
brighton69 wrote:Not really. As there are two lanes on the seafront I find it easy to pass any cyclist who chooses not to use the lane.
I see where your coming from but come on........ You have to agree there is nothing more annoying than an empty cycle lane and next to it people in silly tight tops taking up a whole lane on the seafront?
Perhaps I am not fashion conscious enough, but other folk's choice of attire does not tend to irritate me. OK, perhaps skinny jeans on fat people are a bit unnerving. But I rarely see a fat cyclist.
I have to say that although law breaking cyclists are a pain, wayward motorists worry me more.
Bryan555
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1:05pm Fri 16 Sep 11
voiceofthescoombe wrote:Makes sense. Noone seems to know who has right of way on the cycle path junctions. Poor planning.
A lot of cycle lanes are only really much use if you fancy cycling along at no more than walking speed the seafront one especially sort of defeats the object.
Would you drive on a road where you were expected to brake every 10 yards?
That's why cyclists don't use cycle lanes the council may have provided said lane but unless its use is faster than cycling on the road its not going to be used.
25standard
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1:29pm Fri 16 Sep 11
brighton69 wrote:What planet ARE you on Brighton69?
I see where your coming from but come on........ You have to agree there is nothing more annoying than an empty cycle lane and next to it people in silly tight tops taking up a whole lane on the seafront?
No doubt a pot noodle eater who hates cyclists and anyone who wants to lower the carbon footprint. Shame on you!
25standard
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1:29pm Fri 16 Sep 11
No doubt a pot noodle eater who hates cyclists and anyone who wants to lower the carbon footprint. Shame on you!
mustaphaLeeko
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3:04pm Fri 16 Sep 11
Maybe the Argus can get some earth shattering quotes from angry Hens who are eggasperated at this diabolical turn of events!
I'd have thrown them a bar of soap personally! lol!
I thought
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4:17pm Fri 16 Sep 11
I thought wrote:It is the pavements they are clogging up, hence the increase in the Sale of Hammers and Eggs...
Clogging up the roads, which planet are you on?
StyleCop
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6:57pm Fri 16 Sep 11
brighton69 wrote:Regarding cycle lanes;
I see where your coming from but come on........ You have to agree there is nothing more annoying than an empty cycle lane and next to it people in silly tight tops taking up a whole lane on the seafront?
A cycle Track, means a way constiuting or comprised in a highway being a way over which the public have the following, but no other rights of way on pedal cycles with or without a right of way on foot. (cycle Tracks act 1984)
Poorly signed and often poorly routed cycle tracks often create situations that ambiguous or impractical for cyclists.
Cyclists have no right to cycle on a footpath/footway but only commit an offence where local by laws or traffic regulation orders create such an offence.
A law came into being in 1999 allowing fixed penalty notices to be served on anyone who is guilty of cycling on a footway - however Home office Guidance stipulates that these should only apply to where a cyclist is riding in a manner that may endanger others - in other words, it doesn't apply to cyclists who feel obliged to use a pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Therefore sensitivity and care must be used by those in power to enforce this.
As a responsible cyclist, I use pavements on occasion... but always responsibly as I care about the image we have.
Getting in the way of cars?
So, shoud we use the cycle lane or not? - it's a hot topic - and a great debate.
In 2006 a cyclist was was fined in Telford (that's up in the midlands, near to birmingham) for using a road when there was a nearby cycle track - less direct, slower and covered in detritus... he opted to use the road - Part of his defence was due to his speed - and as a result despite being fined, a new ruling came into being that stipulates that if a cyclist is travelling at least 18 MPH or faster, SHOULD USE ROADS NOT CYCLE PATHS!
This piece of information is pretty specific. I for one can maintain a steady 19.5 MPH on my roadbike - hence why I would use the road.
So. when you talk about lycra clad people in silly tops, chances are you're referring to sports/road bike riders - these guys (and bikes) are quite capable of reaching speeds in excess of 18MPH.
BTW - As you may have gathered I drive, cycle and walk, which makes me a driver, and cyclist and a pedestrian - I suspect most people are at least one these at some point in their lives?
Sometimes I make mistakes or take risks whilst driving, switching lanes early, or jumping a light, likewise on bike I may skip through a light, or get on the pavement briefly - but predominantly I'm law abiding. Similarly, whilst on foot I may bump into someone or obstruct their progress - it doesn't make me a bad person, or rider, or driver... just human.
Once we all accept that fact that we're all fallible, and no one is perfect... the better society will be.
Oh, and for all of you that ridicule cyclists fo being in the way or being foolhardy or stupid or whatever... the best piece of advice is this...
Get a bike. Go for a ride... you may find that inner child and learn to love life again.
I thought
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7:58pm Fri 16 Sep 11
StyleCop wrote:Windbag....an oeuf is an oeuf.
brighton69 wrote:Regarding cycle lanes;
I see where your coming from but come on........ You have to agree there is nothing more annoying than an empty cycle lane and next to it people in silly tight tops taking up a whole lane on the seafront?
A cycle Track, means a way constiuting or comprised in a highway being a way over which the public have the following, but no other rights of way on pedal cycles with or without a right of way on foot. (cycle Tracks act 1984)
Poorly signed and often poorly routed cycle tracks often create situations that ambiguous or impractical for cyclists.
Cyclists have no right to cycle on a footpath/footway but only commit an offence where local by laws or traffic regulation orders create such an offence.
A law came into being in 1999 allowing fixed penalty notices to be served on anyone who is guilty of cycling on a footway - however Home office Guidance stipulates that these should only apply to where a cyclist is riding in a manner that may endanger others - in other words, it doesn't apply to cyclists who feel obliged to use a pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Therefore sensitivity and care must be used by those in power to enforce this.
As a responsible cyclist, I use pavements on occasion... but always responsibly as I care about the image we have.
Getting in the way of cars?
So, shoud we use the cycle lane or not? - it's a hot topic - and a great debate.
In 2006 a cyclist was was fined in Telford (that's up in the midlands, near to birmingham) for using a road when there was a nearby cycle track - less direct, slower and covered in detritus... he opted to use the road - Part of his defence was due to his speed - and as a result despite being fined, a new ruling came into being that stipulates that if a cyclist is travelling at least 18 MPH or faster, SHOULD USE ROADS NOT CYCLE PATHS!
This piece of information is pretty specific. I for one can maintain a steady 19.5 MPH on my roadbike - hence why I would use the road.
So. when you talk about lycra clad people in silly tops, chances are you're referring to sports/road bike riders - these guys (and bikes) are quite capable of reaching speeds in excess of 18MPH.
BTW - As you may have gathered I drive, cycle and walk, which makes me a driver, and cyclist and a pedestrian - I suspect most people are at least one these at some point in their lives?
Sometimes I make mistakes or take risks whilst driving, switching lanes early, or jumping a light, likewise on bike I may skip through a light, or get on the pavement briefly - but predominantly I'm law abiding. Similarly, whilst on foot I may bump into someone or obstruct their progress - it doesn't make me a bad person, or rider, or driver... just human.
Once we all accept that fact that we're all fallible, and no one is perfect... the better society will be.
Oh, and for all of you that ridicule cyclists fo being in the way or being foolhardy or stupid or whatever... the best piece of advice is this...
Get a bike. Go for a ride... you may find that inner child and learn to love life again.
sdhgfhfuyt
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9:12pm Fri 16 Sep 11
I thought
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10:07pm Fri 16 Sep 11
sdhgfhfuyt wrote:That is what I say!
it's happened to me on numerous occasions - in fact twice by same the spikey haired / diamond earring clad occupants of a green Saxo around the K-town area, but f''k it, just kids having a laugh
A) it is what kids have done since I were a lad,
2) no real harm done
Iii) it is only cyclists aft all,
FFS if they are that sensitive they should not ride bikes on the pavement.
I thought
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10:08pm Fri 16 Sep 11
A) it is what kids have done since I were a lad,
2) no real harm done
Iii) it is only cyclists aft all,
FFS if they are that sensitive they should not ride bikes on the pavement.
I thought
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11:05pm Fri 16 Sep 11
I thought wrote:Sort, I am...prone to these statements when having a 'lapse'
Andy R wrote:Another worthless set of comments. Get real
Why does this report say that the motorists are "angry"? "Reckless", "criminal" and "hooligan" would seem to be more appropriate descriptions
downfader
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4:29pm Sat 17 Sep 11
I thought wrote:Egg shell can cut the skin. Get yoke in the eyes or end up flinching and you might very well crash.
sdhgfhfuyt wrote: it's happened to me on numerous occasions - in fact twice by same the spikey haired / diamond earring clad occupants of a green Saxo around the K-town area, but f''k it, just kids having a laughThat is what I say! A) it is what kids have done since I were a lad, 2) no real harm done Iii) it is only cyclists aft all, FFS if they are that sensitive they should not ride bikes on the pavement.
Its not kids "having a laugh". They were riding in the road - where cyclists are supposed to be.
Muppet of a comment from someone who HASN'T thought.
stuhuggett
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7:34pm Sat 17 Sep 11
ghost bus driver
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9:45pm Sat 17 Sep 11
Lets face it that's pretty much any road in Brighton.
Arronsmum
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10:41am Sun 18 Sep 11
downfader
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11:30am Sun 18 Sep 11
Arronsmum wrote:I'm sorry but your views are misplaced.
i will ALWAYS cycle on the path/cycle path ,albeit slowly,get off cycle+walk if have to give priority to pedestrians.I find it v strange how cyclists are willing to risk their lives on the busy roads when there is a path right nr them.having been knocked off bike myself,+knowing how many others have been killed ,injured over the years makes me realise how vulnerable cyclists are.
The more of us who cycle on the road, the safer it becomes!
We can already infer this from the stats: As I said earlier there is an estimated 13 million UK cyclists, and ONLY around 120 deaths a year.
This by all reason makes road cycling very safe. If there are issues with safety we can sort that out with:
- voluntary training (National Standards, Bikeability and IAM training)
- reading the training literature (highway code, Better Cycling by the IAM, and Cyclecraft)
- reporting bad road use to campaigns like stopSMIDSY
- reporting it to the Police where abuse and danger occur.
We have to be proactive rather than sculk away on to pavements.
I thought
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4:36pm Sun 18 Sep 11
downfader wrote:I would not bother reasoning with him, he is a cyclist. He said "He will ALWAYS cycle on the pavement" Scoff law and well deserving of a traditional egging.
Arronsmum wrote:I'm sorry but your views are misplaced.
i will ALWAYS cycle on the path/cycle path ,albeit slowly,get off cycle+walk if have to give priority to pedestrians.I find it v strange how cyclists are willing to risk their lives on the busy roads when there is a path right nr them.having been knocked off bike myself,+knowing how many others have been killed ,injured over the years makes me realise how vulnerable cyclists are.
The more of us who cycle on the road, the safer it becomes!
We can already infer this from the stats: As I said earlier there is an estimated 13 million UK cyclists, and ONLY around 120 deaths a year.
This by all reason makes road cycling very safe. If there are issues with safety we can sort that out with:
- voluntary training (National Standards, Bikeability and IAM training)
- reading the training literature (highway code, Better Cycling by the IAM, and Cyclecraft)
- reporting bad road use to campaigns like stopSMIDSY
- reporting it to the Police where abuse and danger occur.
We have to be proactive rather than sculk away on to pavements.
voiceofthescoombe
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5:05pm Sun 18 Sep 11
A decent cycle lane that's wide enough to avoid walkers fine I'll use it.
I'll use the pavement on mouslecomb way hill because its empty I'm usually moving slower than walking pace :)
so I'm not holding any car up.
in town get off and push people who try to ride through crowds are idiots.
voiceofthescoombe
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5:05pm Sun 18 Sep 11
A decent cycle lane that's wide enough to avoid walkers fine I'll use it.
I'll use the pavement on mouslecomb way hill because its empty I'm usually moving slower than walking pace :)
so I'm not holding any car up.
in town get off and push people who try to ride through crowds are idiots.
downfader
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5:19pm Sun 18 Sep 11
I thought wrote:And I am a cyclist. So was Einstein. And JFK, and Lance Armstrong..
downfader wrote:I would not bother reasoning with him, he is a cyclist. He said "He will ALWAYS cycle on the pavement" Scoff law and well deserving of a traditional egging.Arronsmum wrote: i will ALWAYS cycle on the path/cycle path ,albeit slowly,get off cycle+walk if have to give priority to pedestrians.I find it v strange how cyclists are willing to risk their lives on the busy roads when there is a path right nr them.having been knocked off bike myself,+knowing how many others have been killed ,injured over the years makes me realise how vulnerable cyclists are.I'm sorry but your views are misplaced. The more of us who cycle on the road, the safer it becomes! We can already infer this from the stats: As I said earlier there is an estimated 13 million UK cyclists, and ONLY around 120 deaths a year. This by all reason makes road cycling very safe. If there are issues with safety we can sort that out with: - voluntary training (National Standards, Bikeability and IAM training) - reading the training literature (highway code, Better Cycling by the IAM, and Cyclecraft) - reporting bad road use to campaigns like stopSMIDSY - reporting it to the Police where abuse and danger occur. We have to be proactive rather than sculk away on to pavements.
..you make no valid point. He, I presume, is a she (hence the "mum" bit) and needs reassurance not childish trolling.
Max_Normal
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1:22am Mon 19 Sep 11
monkeymoo wrote:Surely you'd be better off with a frying pan and some toast soldiers?
If off out on my bike today...Im taking some brake fluid and paint stripper with me.
Any motorist i see that is on a mobile phone, or driving above the speed limit, i will cover their car with pre-mentioned fluids. This will cost them £100's in a respray.....YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
As people before have commented, its ok to be violent against cyclists, then i deem it ok to do what i like to motorists. If anyone feels brave enough to comment on this "hiding" behind a computer, Then just look out for me.....I'll be on a grey and white mountain bike, black helmet. Cycling up and down Brighton seafront and side roads all day.
Much love to all.xx
I thought
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8:02am Mon 19 Sep 11
downfader wrote:An adulterer, liar and drug addict, a liar and a drug cheat, a liar and an adulterer ...you are in great company..... It is pointless reporting Pavement Riding Cyclists, or Traffic Signal Ignoring Scoff Laws as Plod do nothing about it, hence the need for Egg Disciplining and Hammer Re education by some people.
I thought wrote:And I am a cyclist. So was Einstein. And JFK, and Lance Armstrong..
downfader wrote:I would not bother reasoning with him, he is a cyclist. He said "He will ALWAYS cycle on the pavement" Scoff law and well deserving of a traditional egging.Arronsmum wrote: i will ALWAYS cycle on the path/cycle path ,albeit slowly,get off cycle+walk if have to give priority to pedestrians.I find it v strange how cyclists are willing to risk their lives on the busy roads when there is a path right nr them.having been knocked off bike myself,+knowing how many others have been killed ,injured over the years makes me realise how vulnerable cyclists are.I'm sorry but your views are misplaced. The more of us who cycle on the road, the safer it becomes! We can already infer this from the stats: As I said earlier there is an estimated 13 million UK cyclists, and ONLY around 120 deaths a year. This by all reason makes road cycling very safe. If there are issues with safety we can sort that out with: - voluntary training (National Standards, Bikeability and IAM training) - reading the training literature (highway code, Better Cycling by the IAM, and Cyclecraft) - reporting bad road use to campaigns like stopSMIDSY - reporting it to the Police where abuse and danger occur. We have to be proactive rather than sculk away on to pavements.
..you make no valid point. He, I presume, is a she (hence the "mum" bit) and needs reassurance not childish trolling.
You cannot reason with these individuals, many have tried an failed, whilst not condoning the egg and hammer method, I would not condemn it, and a well times SHOVE works wonders as well. You want me to make a point? OK The majority of cyclists are selfish, law breaking, opinionated scoff laws and as their stock continues to fall with the general public and the Police fail to uphold the law of the land more people will attempt to rectify the situation. I for One.
I thought
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8:07am Mon 19 Sep 11
I thought wrote:You cycle on the Road and obey road signals...you have nothing tof ear...the others had better ... Get ready to learn the law of consequences
downfader wrote:An adulterer, liar and drug addict, a liar and a drug cheat, a liar and an adulterer ...you are in great company..... It is pointless reporting Pavement Riding Cyclists, or Traffic Signal Ignoring Scoff Laws as Plod do nothing about it, hence the need for Egg Disciplining and Hammer Re education by some people.
I thought wrote:And I am a cyclist. So was Einstein. And JFK, and Lance Armstrong..
downfader wrote:I would not bother reasoning with him, he is a cyclist. He said "He will ALWAYS cycle on the pavement" Scoff law and well deserving of a traditional egging.Arronsmum wrote: i will ALWAYS cycle on the path/cycle path ,albeit slowly,get off cycle+walk if have to give priority to pedestrians.I find it v strange how cyclists are willing to risk their lives on the busy roads when there is a path right nr them.having been knocked off bike myself,+knowing how many others have been killed ,injured over the years makes me realise how vulnerable cyclists are.I'm sorry but your views are misplaced. The more of us who cycle on the road, the safer it becomes! We can already infer this from the stats: As I said earlier there is an estimated 13 million UK cyclists, and ONLY around 120 deaths a year. This by all reason makes road cycling very safe. If there are issues with safety we can sort that out with: - voluntary training (National Standards, Bikeability and IAM training) - reading the training literature (highway code, Better Cycling by the IAM, and Cyclecraft) - reporting bad road use to campaigns like stopSMIDSY - reporting it to the Police where abuse and danger occur. We have to be proactive rather than sculk away on to pavements.
..you make no valid point. He, I presume, is a she (hence the "mum" bit) and needs reassurance not childish trolling.
You cannot reason with these individuals, many have tried an failed, whilst not condoning the egg and hammer method, I would not condemn it, and a well times SHOVE works wonders as well. You want me to make a point? OK The majority of cyclists are selfish, law breaking, opinionated scoff laws and as their stock continues to fall with the general public and the Police fail to uphold the law of the land more people will attempt to rectify the situation. I for One.
voiceofthescoombe
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11:09am Mon 19 Sep 11
neither the unfortunate attacked by the hammer or the cyclists that had eggs chucked at them had committed any offence.
You may have a right to self defence.
You have no right to enforce or punish traffic offences with violence.
Cycling is not a crime get used to the fact.
voiceofthescoombe
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11:11am Mon 19 Sep 11
neither the unfortunate attacked by the hammer or the cyclists that had eggs chucked at them had committed any offence.
You may have a right to self defence.
You have no right to enforce or punish traffic offences with violence.
Cycling is not a crime get used to the fact.
StyleCop
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2:30pm Mon 19 Sep 11
"OK The majority of cyclists are selfish, law breaking, opinionated scoff laws and as their stock continues to fall with the general public and the Police fail to uphold the law of the land more people will attempt to rectify the situation. I for One."
Though the same could be said of drivers and pedestrians.
Gordonmuppet
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5:19pm Mon 19 Sep 11
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:Good Man --revenge is a warm solution..ticks my box
I am a responsible cyclist and car driver. When on my bike I am courteous to drivers, wear all the kit and observe the highway code. This did not stop a group of men driving past me in a Peugeot 205 and spittig at me. Sadly for them I caught up with them in traffic, spotted where they parked and I let all four tyres down. The car had foreign plates on so I had no confidence that Sussex Police's Operation Crackdown where you can report online traffic incidents, would deal with these louts.
downfader
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6:45pm Mon 19 Sep 11
I thought wrote:Come on then? What law did these people break?
I thought wrote:You cycle on the Road and obey road signals...you have nothing tof ear...the others had better ... Get ready to learn the law of consequencesdownfader wrote:An adulterer, liar and drug addict, a liar and a drug cheat, a liar and an adulterer ...you are in great company..... It is pointless reporting Pavement Riding Cyclists, or Traffic Signal Ignoring Scoff Laws as Plod do nothing about it, hence the need for Egg Disciplining and Hammer Re education by some people. You cannot reason with these individuals, many have tried an failed, whilst not condoning the egg and hammer method, I would not condemn it, and a well times SHOVE works wonders as well. You want me to make a point? OK The majority of cyclists are selfish, law breaking, opinionated scoff laws and as their stock continues to fall with the general public and the Police fail to uphold the law of the land more people will attempt to rectify the situation. I for One.I thought wrote:And I am a cyclist. So was Einstein. And JFK, and Lance Armstrong.. ..you make no valid point. He, I presume, is a she (hence the "mum" bit) and needs reassurance not childish trolling.downfader wrote:I would not bother reasoning with him, he is a cyclist. He said "He will ALWAYS cycle on the pavement" Scoff law and well deserving of a traditional egging.Arronsmum wrote: i will ALWAYS cycle on the path/cycle path ,albeit slowly,get off cycle+walk if have to give priority to pedestrians.I find it v strange how cyclists are willing to risk their lives on the busy roads when there is a path right nr them.having been knocked off bike myself,+knowing how many others have been killed ,injured over the years makes me realise how vulnerable cyclists are.I'm sorry but your views are misplaced. The more of us who cycle on the road, the safer it becomes! We can already infer this from the stats: As I said earlier there is an estimated 13 million UK cyclists, and ONLY around 120 deaths a year. This by all reason makes road cycling very safe. If there are issues with safety we can sort that out with: - voluntary training (National Standards, Bikeability and IAM training) - reading the training literature (highway code, Better Cycling by the IAM, and Cyclecraft) - reporting bad road use to campaigns like stopSMIDSY - reporting it to the Police where abuse and danger occur. We have to be proactive rather than sculk away on to pavements.
OPSI it if you have to, section and act. Otherwise it proves you're just a troll trying to spread the usual sad rubbish, mate.
Have you tried a girlfriend, boyfriend or parrot?
Cold cold ground
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11:42pm Mon 19 Sep 11
downfader wrote:He's a big fat Troll downfader. He's really really boring, trolling all over this site he is, yawn, I can only just keep my eyes open I'm so bored.....yawn. Not worth the...........zzzzzz
I thought wrote:Come on then? What law did these people break?
I thought wrote:You cycle on the Road and obey road signals...you have nothing tof ear...the others had better ... Get ready to learn the law of consequencesdownfader wrote:An adulterer, liar and drug addict, a liar and a drug cheat, a liar and an adulterer ...you are in great company..... It is pointless reporting Pavement Riding Cyclists, or Traffic Signal Ignoring Scoff Laws as Plod do nothing about it, hence the need for Egg Disciplining and Hammer Re education by some people. You cannot reason with these individuals, many have tried an failed, whilst not condoning the egg and hammer method, I would not condemn it, and a well times SHOVE works wonders as well. You want me to make a point? OK The majority of cyclists are selfish, law breaking, opinionated scoff laws and as their stock continues to fall with the general public and the Police fail to uphold the law of the land more people will attempt to rectify the situation. I for One.I thought wrote:And I am a cyclist. So was Einstein. And JFK, and Lance Armstrong.. ..you make no valid point. He, I presume, is a she (hence the "mum" bit) and needs reassurance not childish trolling.downfader wrote:I would not bother reasoning with him, he is a cyclist. He said "He will ALWAYS cycle on the pavement" Scoff law and well deserving of a traditional egging.Arronsmum wrote: i will ALWAYS cycle on the path/cycle path ,albeit slowly,get off cycle+walk if have to give priority to pedestrians.I find it v strange how cyclists are willing to risk their lives on the busy roads when there is a path right nr them.having been knocked off bike myself,+knowing how many others have been killed ,injured over the years makes me realise how vulnerable cyclists are.I'm sorry but your views are misplaced. The more of us who cycle on the road, the safer it becomes! We can already infer this from the stats: As I said earlier there is an estimated 13 million UK cyclists, and ONLY around 120 deaths a year. This by all reason makes road cycling very safe. If there are issues with safety we can sort that out with: - voluntary training (National Standards, Bikeability and IAM training) - reading the training literature (highway code, Better Cycling by the IAM, and Cyclecraft) - reporting bad road use to campaigns like stopSMIDSY - reporting it to the Police where abuse and danger occur. We have to be proactive rather than sculk away on to pavements.
OPSI it if you have to, section and act. Otherwise it proves you're just a troll trying to spread the usual sad rubbish, mate.
Have you tried a girlfriend, boyfriend or parrot?
zzzzz
voiceofthescoombe
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8:22am Tue 20 Sep 11
StyleCop
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11:26am Tue 20 Sep 11
voiceofthescoombe wrote:Leave it be Scoomber - best not to goad.
trit trot trit trot I'm big billy goat gruff
left UK
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7:50pm Tue 20 Sep 11
fretlessbass
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3:25pm Wed 21 Sep 11
Torquemada
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5:27pm Wed 21 Sep 11
fretlessbass wrote:You should have been taught that there is no such thing as 'road tax'- it's officially known as Vehicle Excise Duty. For the vehicle.
Put lights on your bike, pay road tax like the rest of us or get off the road and quit whinging.
If you have been paying 'road tax' to some scam artist, you've been done...
By the way, can you play 'Donna Lee'?
StyleCop
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6:56pm Wed 21 Sep 11
fretlessbass wrote:As the previous post says its vehicle excise duty you're no doubt referring to when mentioning road tax. the classic argument against cyclists using highways.
Put lights on your bike, pay road tax like the rest of us or get off the road and quit whinging.
it should be observed that local taxes go towards the upkeep and maintainance of the streets and roads and pavements; paid for out of council taxes, which we all should pay, cyclists, pedestrians and motorists alike. this means that said highways are not the sole right for motor vehicles and we all have access to them, regardless of mode of transport.
vehicle excise duty is a license to own a motor vehicle. money of which goes into central government.
I believe we have Winston Churchill to thank for this forward thinking policy as he was very much aware of the potential monopoly on the road infrastructures through rapid expansion of motorcar use
so there you go. bit of history for you.
as for putting lights on your bike... I couldn't agree more!
Bryan555
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7:29pm Fri 23 Sep 11
Cyclists must display lights at night. £30 spot fine for non compliance.
So no change to the law required.
People who lice in glass houses shouldn't throw eggs at cyclists.
Bryan555
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7:30pm Fri 23 Sep 11
Cyclists must display lights at night. £30 spot fine for non compliance.
So no change to the law required.
People who lice in glass houses shouldn't throw eggs at cyclists.
I thought
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11:30am Sat 24 Sep 11
Its not often I support some of the more controversial contributors on this site, but on this one I do!
Hove Central says...
11:16am Thu 15 Sep 11