Brighton nightclub jobs at risk (From The Argus)

Everything is against the clubs,cheap drinks in super markets so people drink at home first,smoking ban,pubs open later,government wants clubs to contribute to policing,it is difficult to even break even.The government cutbacks are hitting the young unfairly ,if these clubs close the knock on effect with hotels etc will be bad although this would delight some recidents who live near these venues i cant understand why they chose to live in the centre of the city what do they expect. ROB BRIGHTON.

Good riddance. Might make the town centre a bit less unpleasant for the rest of us in the evenings.
It would be much better in any case to have a local economy based on real jobs, than to be so dependent on this so-called 'night-time economy'.

Use us or lose us? With debts of £85m that is a lot of clubbers they need!

Rob its not just city centre residents who suffer the noise generated from people returning home from these clubs in the early hours. Its almost everybody living on a fairly busy road within a couple of miles.

The clubs in West Street have thrived for so long on stag and hen nights and young drinkers, they have done nothing to encourage other people living in the surrounding areas to go there. In fact I don't know anybody who has actually been in Oceana because it is so well-known for trouble, yet we have all contributed to the policing costs connected with it. Now people can't afford to travel to Brighton or go out so often they are showing the 'use it or lose it' card.... As far as I can see, it was never there for the majority to use for a safe and fun night out.

There will still be plenty of other clubs and these have a chavvy reputation anyway.

Rob Brighton, how does a night club closure lead you to slag off people living in the town centre ...? As the article says, unemployed kids don't have the money and you yourself give a solid list of the reasons that clubs have a hard time.

Iggytwig wrote:
The clubs in West Street have thrived for so long on stag and hen nights and young drinkers, they have done nothing to encourage other people living in the surrounding areas to go there. In fact I don't know anybody who has actually been in Oceana because it is so well-known for trouble, yet we have all contributed to the policing costs connected with it. Now people can't afford to travel to Brighton or go out so often they are showing the 'use it or lose it' card.... As far as I can see, it was never there for the majority to use for a safe and fun night out.

Oceana did not issue a 'Use us or Lose us' policy - I believe that is just a journalists sensationalism.

Oceana is a extremely popular club with an 'over 23's' dance room on Friday's and Saturdays. A special night for over 30's was trialled a year ago - but almost everyone deserted the allocated 2 'over 30's rooms' and headed for the main 2 large Oceana dance rooms and 5 themed bars. Oceana does cater for the older generation (over aged 60 sometimes!) and through all the age group ranges down to 18 (restricted to over 20 at weekends). The under 18 - no alcohol - evenings are also very popular.

And Oceana is NOT known for trouble, with the ever increasing number of Gay and Lesbian punters as very positive proof/evidence!

It is only the occasional few that cause any problem and they are swiftly removed so that the 2,500 + can continue to enjoy their trouble free night of enjoyment.

Oceana IS here for the majority to use for a fun and safe night - and the majority demonstrates that with their continual returns to Oceana.

There are a number of ugly buildings on the seafront but I think this is no.1.

Rita Snatch wrote:

wietraurig wrote:
Good riddance. Might make the town centre a bit less unpleasant for the rest of us in the evenings.
It would be much better in any case to have a local economy based on real jobs, than to be so dependent on this so-called 'night-time economy'.

Stop being such an ill-informed plonker. Just where do you 'go' in the town centre in the evening? The bushes?

Don't know about "ill-informed", but my own experience suggests that West St and its environs are fairly horrible and sometimes intimidating places, especially on weekday evenings, and the concentration of clubs in the area does, I think, contribute to this. Just my personal opinion, of course, although I know many others who share it. The main point I was making, though, was that Brighton is too dependent on low-paid service sector jobs in these kinds of establishments, and these will always be vulnerable to recessions etc. The Council and others would do far better to encourage investment in high-paying, high value-added jobs in manufacturing, high-tech and the knowledge-based sectors, rather than the 'night-time economy'.
Haven't noticed many bushes in that part of town, I confess, so don't really know what you're on about there.

The venue will always be successful as it always draws in a crowd- Yes West Street has a questionable reputation, but Oceana does not add to that any more than any other venue. Most people that have had a bad experience on West Street seem to condemn all the venues without having tried all of them, and most people that have a singular problem with Oceana have been removed from the venue at one point or another (mostly for good reason)
What people seem to forget is that Oceana staff are made up mainly of 18-25 year olds (highest unemployment rate anyone?) so what people need to consider is that there are 50 odd people who are not on the dole, are working ridiculous hours just to make a living.
Oceana is a niche club- many of the customers are regulars just as you would have down the seafront, or in Kemptown- its as simple as this, if you hate chart, or R&B, or Disco just don't go!There are loads of brilliant clubs in brighton offering a huge range of music!
Oceana caters to the people that DO want this- there is a venue for everyone in Brighton! The club is well run, has a brilliant safety record and is employing young people, has a diverse crowd and is not personally in £85m worth of debt- do you really want to see it go? T

Rita Snatch wrote:

Iggytwig wrote:
The clubs in West Street have thrived for so long on stag and hen nights and young drinkers, they have done nothing to encourage other people living in the surrounding areas to go there. In fact I don't know anybody who has actually been in Oceana because it is so well-known for trouble, yet we have all contributed to the policing costs connected with it. Now people can't afford to travel to Brighton or go out so often they are showing the 'use it or lose it' card.... As far as I can see, it was never there for the majority to use for a safe and fun night out.

Oceana did not issue a 'Use us or Lose us' policy - I believe that is just a journalists sensationalism.

Oceana is a extremely popular club with an 'over 23's' dance room on Friday's and Saturdays. A special night for over 30's was trialled a year ago - but almost everyone deserted the allocated 2 'over 30's rooms' and headed for the main 2 large Oceana dance rooms and 5 themed bars. Oceana does cater for the older generation (over aged 60 sometimes!) and through all the age group ranges down to 18 (restricted to over 20 at weekends). The under 18 - no alcohol - evenings are also very popular.

And Oceana is NOT known for trouble, with the ever increasing number of Gay and Lesbian punters as very positive proof/evidence!

It is only the occasional few that cause any problem and they are swiftly removed so that the 2,500 + can continue to enjoy their trouble free night of enjoyment.

Oceana IS here for the majority to use for a fun and safe night - and the majority demonstrates that with their continual returns to Oceana.

If it's an "extremely popular" club, surely they have no need to worry about money right now?

When I last went about a month back, I remember being charged nearly £9 for a drink that costs only £3 elsewhere.

I agree that this is a nice venue, but one must question how successful a venue of this size can be when the vast majority of people can't afford regular nights out...

steve19btn wrote:

Rita Snatch wrote:

Iggytwig wrote:
The clubs in West Street have thrived for so long on stag and hen nights and young drinkers, they have done nothing to encourage other people living in the surrounding areas to go there. In fact I don't know anybody who has actually been in Oceana because it is so well-known for trouble, yet we have all contributed to the policing costs connected with it. Now people can't afford to travel to Brighton or go out so often they are showing the 'use it or lose it' card.... As far as I can see, it was never there for the majority to use for a safe and fun night out.

Oceana did not issue a 'Use us or Lose us' policy - I believe that is just a journalists sensationalism.

Oceana is a extremely popular club with an 'over 23's' dance room on Friday's and Saturdays. A special night for over 30's was trialled a year ago - but almost everyone deserted the allocated 2 'over 30's rooms' and headed for the main 2 large Oceana dance rooms and 5 themed bars. Oceana does cater for the older generation (over aged 60 sometimes!) and through all the age group ranges down to 18 (restricted to over 20 at weekends). The under 18 - no alcohol - evenings are also very popular.

And Oceana is NOT known for trouble, with the ever increasing number of Gay and Lesbian punters as very positive proof/evidence!

It is only the occasional few that cause any problem and they are swiftly removed so that the 2,500 + can continue to enjoy their trouble free night of enjoyment.

Oceana IS here for the majority to use for a fun and safe night - and the majority demonstrates that with their continual returns to Oceana.

If it's an "extremely popular" club, surely they have no need to worry about money right now?

When I last went about a month back, I remember being charged nearly £9 for a drink that costs only £3 elsewhere.

I agree that this is a nice venue, but one must question how successful a venue of this size can be when the vast majority of people can't afford regular nights out...

Given that Luminar clubs give people every opportunity to get free entry and have the some of the best drink deals around I'm not sure you were charged £9 for a drink!

There isn't a drink on the menu that costs £9. The pitchers are priced around £10, cocktails around £6 (and these are 241 Sun-Fri), bottles and other drinks regularly on offer.

I think you're over-exaggerating or you were drunk.

It would be a massive shame to see these clubs close, not only for the people employed by them but for the people that use them.

I don't think the locals stating that they wish these venues would shut so there were other places for them to go realise how much money these venues bring in, which would not be matched by a few locals going out for a quiet drink/meal instead LOL

leobrighton wrote:
There will still be plenty of other clubs and these have a chavvy reputation anyway.

There are lots of snobs in Brighton !

It's one of the prerequisites after a few years for locals & newcomers to criticise West Street, even though they probably rarely go clubbing anymore & don't spend any money in them.

Do you want these much smaller pokier clubs to pickup the overspill from the closure of the 2 big Wrest Street clubs ?