Brighton street pastor to stand for Sussex Police commissioner role (From The Argus)
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Brighton street pastor to stand for Sussex Police commissioner role
5:30pm Tuesday 14th February 2012 in News
Ian Chisnall is bidding for the police commissioner role
A street pastor wants to stand for police and crime commissioner for Sussex.
Ian Chisnall is the first person to declare his interest in being an independent candidate for the role.
Elections are being held in November to decide who should take on the job, which will replace Sussex Police Authority in overseeing Sussex Police.
Mr Chisnall describes himself as a community activist and a “faith-based social entrepreneur”.
He warned that policing could become politicised if the traditional parties take control of individual forces.
He said: “It is so inappropriate for political parties to be attempting to control the police at this level. It feels so wrong.”
Mr Chisnall warned that dozens of police forces could be controlled by political parties whose policies contradicted those of the Government of the day.
The £85,000-a-year crime commissioner’s job will involve setting the police’s budget and priorities and holding the chief constable to account.
Mr Chisnall launched his election campaign at The Valley Social Centre, in Whitehawk Way, Brighton, yesterday (February 13).
He also spoke at events at The Source Youth Hub, in Civic Approach, Uckfield, and The Y Centre in Albion Way, Horsham.
The 51-year-old from Hollingdean co-ordinates Brighton Street Pastors, whose members help people in distress in the city centre on Friday and Saturday nights.
He is asking for donations to raise the £5,000 he needs for a deposit.
Comments(19)
leobrighton
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8:41pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Reporter1
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8:50pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Isaac Rinkfern
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9:35pm Tue 14 Feb 12
george smith
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10:20pm Tue 14 Feb 12
leobrighton wrote:and save 85k
This police commissioner business is a bad idea and should be abandoned.
caeos
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12:10am Wed 15 Feb 12
dogface666
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7:52am Wed 15 Feb 12
Bladesboy Returns
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9:15am Wed 15 Feb 12
Accordingly no need for this role.
Thanks
emma barnes
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10:31am Wed 15 Feb 12
ashfield
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11:07am Wed 15 Feb 12
It is sad how this comment section seems to be used mainly by those looking for quick laughs or to have a dig at things and people they know nothing about.
I have known Ian for a decade, and while we may not have common ground in terms of faith, I can say he is a man with great integrity who works very hard for the many organisations he is involved with.
To imply he is interested in this role because of the salary attached is very misguided (I wouldn't be surprised if he were to get the job that quite some proportion of the salary would be directed to voluntary organisations). I imagine Ian is asking for donations to secure a deposit because he is a man of modest means who isn't able to lay his hands on £5,000.
By all means debate the merits of the Police Commissioner role being up for public vote, and the benefits and disadvantages of political party-backed candidates versus independents. However, it would be great if people could restrain themselves from insults and personal slurs, especially directed towards a man, who if you had the chance to meet would impress you with his honesty, intelligence, determination and sincerity.
ashfield
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4:28pm Wed 15 Feb 12
Unless you have some first-hand experience of this, which I very much doubt, I suggest that you withdraw such a ridiculous and libelous statement.
Are you refering to the Street Pastors Scheme? If so, feel free to come to West Street at the weekends and see the good work they do keeping people safe in a sometimes scary environment. Or are you talking about FareShare, where vulnerable people benefit from the donation of close to sell by date food?
As for those who have a faith not being suitable to control budgets and make decisions, erm, that rules out many of the current and past leaders of the free world. Now whatever you may think to their skills and legacy, it is ridiculous to suggest they are not fit to lead. Why do you seem so anti-faith anyway? While faith is not the right choice for me, I refuse to be so short-sighted to suggest that those that do have a faith are unfit to have positions of responsibility. Certainly in our little corner of the world, those with faith are doing enormous things for the good of our communities.
davyboy
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4:55pm Wed 15 Feb 12
Bladesboy Returns
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8:12pm Wed 15 Feb 12
ashfield wrote:Ridiculous last sentence in the prior statement. You and your are doing nothing for me and mine.
'Preying on vulnerable people' Roundbill? Huh?
Unless you have some first-hand experience of this, which I very much doubt, I suggest that you withdraw such a ridiculous and libelous statement.
Are you refering to the Street Pastors Scheme? If so, feel free to come to West Street at the weekends and see the good work they do keeping people safe in a sometimes scary environment. Or are you talking about FareShare, where vulnerable people benefit from the donation of close to sell by date food?
As for those who have a faith not being suitable to control budgets and make decisions, erm, that rules out many of the current and past leaders of the free world. Now whatever you may think to their skills and legacy, it is ridiculous to suggest they are not fit to lead. Why do you seem so anti-faith anyway? While faith is not the right choice for me, I refuse to be so short-sighted to suggest that those that do have a faith are unfit to have positions of responsibility. Certainly in our little corner of the world, those with faith are doing enormous things for the good of our communities.
People wouldn't be facing death and the associated struggles leading up to saied, if there was a god.
So please don't take this the wrong way, however your comments are worthless!
dawind
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9:24pm Wed 15 Feb 12
This statement unfortunately renders your judgement spurious.
I challenge you to name one leader of 'the free world' since the end of the 39/45 war who, using the criteria laid down at the Nuremburg Trails, would NOT be condemned as a war criminal.
Bladesboy Returns
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9:34pm Wed 15 Feb 12
dawind wrote:wow you are taking this a tad seriously....David Cameron?
ashfield wrote "As for those who have a faith not being suitable to control budgets and make decisions, erm, that rules out many of the current and past leaders of the free world. Now whatever you may think to their skills and legacy, it is ridiculous to suggest they are not fit to lead."
This statement unfortunately renders your judgement spurious.
I challenge you to name one leader of 'the free world' since the end of the 39/45 war who, using the criteria laid down at the Nuremburg Trails, would NOT be condemned as a war criminal.
ashfield
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9:53pm Wed 15 Feb 12
ashfield
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10:03pm Wed 15 Feb 12
dawind
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11:05pm Wed 15 Feb 12
I do however take exception to terms such as 'free world' being bandied about and used in the context implied. As for "In terms of the Christian faith in the UK, it is certainly a force for good, not a detriment." Only if your willing to concede that a 'faith in belief' coupled with 'belief in faith' does not undermind
scientific enquiry, then yes.
dawind
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11:11pm Wed 15 Feb 12
Bladesboy Returns wrote:We're talking about the organ grinder not the monkey ;-)
dawind wrote:wow you are taking this a tad seriously....David Cameron?
ashfield wrote "As for those who have a faith not being suitable to control budgets and make decisions, erm, that rules out many of the current and past leaders of the free world. Now whatever you may think to their skills and legacy, it is ridiculous to suggest they are not fit to lead."
This statement unfortunately renders your judgement spurious.
I challenge you to name one leader of 'the free world' since the end of the 39/45 war who, using the criteria laid down at the Nuremburg Trails, would NOT be condemned as a war criminal.
oooohhhhh says...
7:34pm Tue 14 Feb 12