Girl gang arrested for violent attacks (From The Argus)

bet they was from meadowview,

Why were these children out at night by themselves. Their parents need to take responsibility. Shameful.

We mustn't be nasty about these alleged attackers, they've probably had difficult lives and we ought to club together to send them on a nice little trip somewhere. Maybe like getting them to shadow our fabulous MP in the Commons for a day.

juleshove wrote:
Why were these children out at night by themselves. Their parents need to take responsibility. Shameful.

No doubt we pay the parents a small futune in credits and benefits to parent badly

NickBrt wrote:
We mustn't be nasty about these alleged attackers, they've probably had difficult lives and we ought to club together to send them on a nice little trip somewhere. Maybe like getting them to shadow our fabulous MP in the Commons for a day.

Have you considered becoming a Magistrate? ;-)

Drop the little scrubbers off the pier with some concrete arm bands.

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Drop the little scrubbers off the pier with some concrete arm bands.

Like your style

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Drop the little scrubbers off the pier with some concrete arm bands.

Yes, hanging is too good for these people, a good kick up the backside is what they need! LMAO at the voice of reason.

Maxwell's Ghost...I think you need a taste of your own medicine. what a door handle you are.

george smith wrote:

juleshove wrote:
Why were these children out at night by themselves. Their parents need to take responsibility. Shameful.

No doubt we pay the parents a small futune in credits and benefits to parent badly

As a parent of one of these girls, I would like to add that I am mortified. My daughter has always been brought up to know right from wrong. I have sat up nights not knowing where she is, reported her to the police as missing on several occasions. The police can only do so much. We have grounded her, taken her phone away, stopped her friends coming round, banned her from the using the pc. My husband works all the hours god sends, we pay a mortgage, we pay council tax at band D rate. We do not sponge off of the state in any shape or form. We let her out when her grounding is finished. She does not come home, we are back to square one. As parents we speak to her and try our best to bring her up rather than drag her up. I am disgusted with her behaviour and sincerely apologise to the victims involved. That does not and never will make it right. I wish that my daughter and her cronies could be made to see the damage and psychological distress that they have caused to each of their victims. Believe me I will not be defending her actions.

ann-amos wrote:

george smith wrote:

juleshove wrote:
Why were these children out at night by themselves. Their parents need to take responsibility. Shameful.

No doubt we pay the parents a small futune in credits and benefits to parent badly

As a parent of one of these girls, I would like to add that I am mortified. My daughter has always been brought up to know right from wrong. I have sat up nights not knowing where she is, reported her to the police as missing on several occasions. The police can only do so much. We have grounded her, taken her phone away, stopped her friends coming round, banned her from the using the pc. My husband works all the hours god sends, we pay a mortgage, we pay council tax at band D rate. We do not sponge off of the state in any shape or form. We let her out when her grounding is finished. She does not come home, we are back to square one. As parents we speak to her and try our best to bring her up rather than drag her up. I am disgusted with her behaviour and sincerely apologise to the victims involved. That does not and never will make it right. I wish that my daughter and her cronies could be made to see the damage and psychological distress that they have caused to each of their victims. Believe me I will not be defending her actions.

Thank you for writing this - it's obviously from the heart.

You have my sympathy. I don't know if the police in Btn & Hove do this - but I know it's worked elsewhere - talk to your daughter, try and get her to realise what she's done but if she seems indifferent or uncaring then ask her if she'd be willing to meet any of the victims? This has had a really good effect - that I've read about - when people face their attacker they open up and tell them what they think of them and ask them why they did it and tell them all the effects it's had on them - often tears are shed on both sides and it has a really good effect on the person who's committed the crime.

If the police don't do it - see if you can arrange it anyway - just to get her to apologise

I wish you all the luck in the world with this.

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:

ann-amos wrote:

george smith wrote:

juleshove wrote:
Why were these children out at night by themselves. Their parents need to take responsibility. Shameful.

No doubt we pay the parents a small futune in credits and benefits to parent badly

As a parent of one of these girls, I would like to add that I am mortified. My daughter has always been brought up to know right from wrong. I have sat up nights not knowing where she is, reported her to the police as missing on several occasions. The police can only do so much. We have grounded her, taken her phone away, stopped her friends coming round, banned her from the using the pc. My husband works all the hours god sends, we pay a mortgage, we pay council tax at band D rate. We do not sponge off of the state in any shape or form. We let her out when her grounding is finished. She does not come home, we are back to square one. As parents we speak to her and try our best to bring her up rather than drag her up. I am disgusted with her behaviour and sincerely apologise to the victims involved. That does not and never will make it right. I wish that my daughter and her cronies could be made to see the damage and psychological distress that they have caused to each of their victims. Believe me I will not be defending her actions.

Thank you for writing this - it's obviously from the heart.

You have my sympathy. I don't know if the police in Btn & Hove do this - but I know it's worked elsewhere - talk to your daughter, try and get her to realise what she's done but if she seems indifferent or uncaring then ask her if she'd be willing to meet any of the victims? This has had a really good effect - that I've read about - when people face their attacker they open up and tell them what they think of them and ask them why they did it and tell them all the effects it's had on them - often tears are shed on both sides and it has a really good effect on the person who's committed the crime.

If the police don't do it - see if you can arrange it anyway - just to get her to apologise

I wish you all the luck in the world with this.

I completely blame the parents,when this kind of thing happens.

I and many other unfortunate adults had the displeasure of traveling on a train from Brighton to Eastbourne yesterday lunchtime, when 2 of the fattest incompetent mothers and their multiple misbehaved offspring turned the journey into an absolute nightmare for all concerned.

I don't have kids yet but know how my parents engagement and approach with me helped to shape my behaviour.

Outrageous. Lock the parents up as well as their offspring.

Surely Not! the mother above obviously needs help so why don't you offer to help her with her daughter.
You clearly are an expert and as you are so pious why not offer your expertise to all the other parents who reproduce faulty humans.
These little bastards make everyone's lives a misery, including their own families.

Sorry, calmed down a little now from my last post, however what I am seeing more and more of is this new breed of fat women, who seem to do nothing to support the development of their multiple and obnoxious offspring.

The consequence is obvious, the number of unruly kids who demonstrate anti social behaviour is growing and as each generation of these multiplies and breeds the next out turn of nasty little kids, the problem will get larger and larger as no doubt will the fat women.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Reflect on your post wrote:
Sorry, calmed down a little now from my last post, however what I am seeing more and more of is this new breed of fat women, who seem to do nothing to support the development of their multiple and obnoxious offspring.

The consequence is obvious, the number of unruly kids who demonstrate anti social behaviour is growing and as each generation of these multiplies and breeds the next out turn of nasty little kids, the problem will get larger and larger as no doubt will the fat women.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I am not sure who your quote is directed at? If is me as one of the parent's - then perhaps we should meet - you will see that I am neither fat or overweight - so your point is???

Been reflecting now for a few minutes and have to acknowledge the point raised by Maxwell re 'faulty kids'.

Had the pleasure today of driving circa 50 miles along the coast from Brighton to Eastbourne (based on yesterday's experience will never travel by train again) and was amazed by the number of obese women pushing prams. Additionally upon closer inspection (only where safe when driving conditions allowed - i.e. traffic lights when paused) it was obvious that based on their looks, many of these could only have conceived through immaculate conception.

Extending this thinking, my hypothesis is that this is probably the huge welt of single parent, benefit grabbing miscreants that go on to procreate and introduce the very 'faulty' next generation that further spawn and draw on the assets of the fit.

I don't have the answer, however believe I may have created the 'problem statement'.

Reflect on your post wrote:
Been reflecting now for a few minutes and have to acknowledge the point raised by Maxwell re 'faulty kids'.

Had the pleasure today of driving circa 50 miles along the coast from Brighton to Eastbourne (based on yesterday's experience will never travel by train again) and was amazed by the number of obese women pushing prams. Additionally upon closer inspection (only where safe when driving conditions allowed - i.e. traffic lights when paused) it was obvious that based on their looks, many of these could only have conceived through immaculate conception.

Extending this thinking, my hypothesis is that this is probably the huge welt of single parent, benefit grabbing miscreants that go on to procreate and introduce the very 'faulty' next generation that further spawn and draw on the assets of the fit.

I don't have the answer, however believe I may have created the 'problem statement'.

Hmmm! My Mother was overweight and so were many of her generation! So are many now - obesity is not some one chooses,(no one chooses to be obese or fat as you put it, it happens over time but crime is! If you have nothing sensible to say then go status on your facebook! However as a parent of one of the girls above I am ashamed, she is grounded again and under curfew and is on bail. I will not defend her1

ann-amos wrote:

Reflect on your post wrote:
Sorry, calmed down a little now from my last post, however what I am seeing more and more of is this new breed of fat women, who seem to do nothing to support the development of their multiple and obnoxious offspring.

The consequence is obvious, the number of unruly kids who demonstrate anti social behaviour is growing and as each generation of these multiplies and breeds the next out turn of nasty little kids, the problem will get larger and larger as no doubt will the fat women.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I am not sure who your quote is directed at? If is me as one of the parent's - then perhaps we should meet - you will see that I am neither fat or overweight - so your point is???

I really have no desire to meet up with you (see earlier post re train journey) and would suggest your time is perhaps better spent addressing the many issues that are now on your agenda.

Please do, see my previous post though and let me have your views?

Oh yes, the fact the girl's father is never there may have something to do with it. If you feel I can help in any way then please do let me know.

Reflect on your post wrote:

ann-amos wrote:

Reflect on your post wrote:
Sorry, calmed down a little now from my last post, however what I am seeing more and more of is this new breed of fat women, who seem to do nothing to support the development of their multiple and obnoxious offspring.

The consequence is obvious, the number of unruly kids who demonstrate anti social behaviour is growing and as each generation of these multiplies and breeds the next out turn of nasty little kids, the problem will get larger and larger as no doubt will the fat women.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I am not sure who your quote is directed at? If is me as one of the parent's - then perhaps we should meet - you will see that I am neither fat or overweight - so your point is???

I really have no desire to meet up with you (see earlier post re train journey) and would suggest your time is perhaps better spent addressing the many issues that are now on your agenda.

Please do, see my previous post though and let me have your views?

Oh yes, the fact the girl's father is never there may have something to do with it. If you feel I can help in any way then please do let me know.

Do you know what - ignorance is bliss! I will let you revel in it! ;)

ann-amos wrote:

Reflect on your post wrote:

ann-amos wrote:

Reflect on your post wrote:
Sorry, calmed down a little now from my last post, however what I am seeing more and more of is this new breed of fat women, who seem to do nothing to support the development of their multiple and obnoxious offspring.

The consequence is obvious, the number of unruly kids who demonstrate anti social behaviour is growing and as each generation of these multiplies and breeds the next out turn of nasty little kids, the problem will get larger and larger as no doubt will the fat women.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I am not sure who your quote is directed at? If is me as one of the parent's - then perhaps we should meet - you will see that I am neither fat or overweight - so your point is???

I really have no desire to meet up with you (see earlier post re train journey) and would suggest your time is perhaps better spent addressing the many issues that are now on your agenda.

Please do, see my previous post though and let me have your views?

Oh yes, the fact the girl's father is never there may have something to do with it. If you feel I can help in any way then please do let me know.

Do you know what - ignorance is bliss! I will let you revel in it! ;)

I suspect ignorance is probably the root cause of this unsatisfactory episode and if parents made themselves interested and accountable these situations wouldn't happen so often.

It is not for me to judge you and yours and I don't want to add further burdens to your current predicament, so please don't feel the need to respond. However, my offer to help was a genuine one and well meant.

Finally, please be assured I am reveling in nothing; just having to put up with all the anti social nonsense and costs that the miscreant minority creates.

Reflect on your post wrote:

ann-amos wrote:

Reflect on your post wrote:

ann-amos wrote:

Reflect on your post wrote:
Sorry, calmed down a little now from my last post, however what I am seeing more and more of is this new breed of fat women, who seem to do nothing to support the development of their multiple and obnoxious offspring.

The consequence is obvious, the number of unruly kids who demonstrate anti social behaviour is growing and as each generation of these multiplies and breeds the next out turn of nasty little kids, the problem will get larger and larger as no doubt will the fat women.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I am not sure who your quote is directed at? If is me as one of the parent's - then perhaps we should meet - you will see that I am neither fat or overweight - so your point is???

I really have no desire to meet up with you (see earlier post re train journey) and would suggest your time is perhaps better spent addressing the many issues that are now on your agenda.

Please do, see my previous post though and let me have your views?

Oh yes, the fact the girl's father is never there may have something to do with it. If you feel I can help in any way then please do let me know.

Do you know what - ignorance is bliss! I will let you revel in it! ;)

I suspect ignorance is probably the root cause of this unsatisfactory episode and if parents made themselves interested and accountable these situations wouldn't happen so often.

It is not for me to judge you and yours and I don't want to add further burdens to your current predicament, so please don't feel the need to respond. However, my offer to help was a genuine one and well meant.

Finally, please be assured I am reveling in nothing; just having to put up with all the anti social nonsense and costs that the miscreant minority creates.

I am sorry I took what you wrote in the wrong context. I appreciate your offer of help. My daughter is at a very vulnerable stage in her life, and I don't condone her actions in the least. However I know her and know that she is not the girl she has become - I am so ashamed and disappointed! All the same she is my daughter and her behaviour reflects on us. I am sorry for what she has done and I will make sure she realises that it was wrong and she is currently grounded again and on bail. Like I said earlier I will not defend her, but I will be her Mum!

ann-amos I found your comments refreshing. All to often stories like this unearth some dispicable relative spouting drivel about how it is societies fault and the press being unfair. Your comments indicate you are a responsible parent and if this is the case, one of a dying breed.

The coment by getthecoalition out looks sensible, I think the police/courts in Sussex do something along those lines I vaguely remember reading something on here about it

Either way I wish you well

TwoBob wrote:

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Drop the little scrubbers off the pier with some concrete arm bands.

Like your style

Top stuff. The best way of dealing with this.

Stop being friends with your daughter. I have spent 30 years covering courts all over the UK and one common factor in many juvenile cases is that there is no division between the role of patent and child.
Therefore, no respect for adults or othe human beings.
If this respect is not developed at an early age, by teenage years your children who are becoming more independent, are in trouble in the real world.
Also behaving in a criminal way can lead to these un developed children being battered by adults who take offence at feral youths.
To the mum above, small children are like puppies, let them know who the pack leader is and train them young. Fail to do that early and you get a nasty little wild creature who thinks its top dog.

it dont matter if your fat or thin black or white how much money you earn and how much money you have got if a child wants to misbehave they will have'nt you forgotten when you were a teenager how you used to rebell now whilst i agree this is not acceptable behavior and they will be punished one way or another i cant help to be annoyed at some of the comments on here. Ann no-one know your problems at home the mere fact that you have taken the time to try and explain your situation is a credit to you bringing up children isnt easy and when some people who have'nt even had kids try and say blame the parents we all know you have to let the lead go sometimes and hope they are sensible when they are out but you cant be there when they do something wrong so does that make you a bad parent no of course not also we hear on here that fat people are to blame and fat people should be locked up great shall we bring hitler back to live and all have blonde kids and kill the rest no i didnt think so either..... All i hope for is that your daughter gets some help to try and make her a better person and that you your family and your daughter can move on after her punishment whatever it be

bus nut wrote:
it dont matter if your fat or thin black or white how much money you earn and how much money you have got if a child wants to misbehave they will have'nt you forgotten when you were a teenager how you used to rebell now whilst i agree this is not acceptable behavior and they will be punished one way or another i cant help to be annoyed at some of the comments on here. Ann no-one know your problems at home the mere fact that you have taken the time to try and explain your situation is a credit to you bringing up children isnt easy and when some people who have'nt even had kids try and say blame the parents we all know you have to let the lead go sometimes and hope they are sensible when they are out but you cant be there when they do something wrong so does that make you a bad parent no of course not also we hear on here that fat people are to blame and fat people should be locked up great shall we bring hitler back to live and all have blonde kids and kill the rest no i didnt think so either..... All i hope for is that your daughter gets some help to try and make her a better person and that you your family and your daughter can move on after her punishment whatever it be

Are you overweight by any chance?

Reflect on your post wrote:

bus nut wrote:
it dont matter if your fat or thin black or white how much money you earn and how much money you have got if a child wants to misbehave they will have'nt you forgotten when you were a teenager how you used to rebell now whilst i agree this is not acceptable behavior and they will be punished one way or another i cant help to be annoyed at some of the comments on here. Ann no-one know your problems at home the mere fact that you have taken the time to try and explain your situation is a credit to you bringing up children isnt easy and when some people who have'nt even had kids try and say blame the parents we all know you have to let the lead go sometimes and hope they are sensible when they are out but you cant be there when they do something wrong so does that make you a bad parent no of course not also we hear on here that fat people are to blame and fat people should be locked up great shall we bring hitler back to live and all have blonde kids and kill the rest no i didnt think so either..... All i hope for is that your daughter gets some help to try and make her a better person and that you your family and your daughter can move on after her punishment whatever it be

Are you overweight by any chance?

Reflect on your post - Are you a troll by any chance?!

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6:31pm Sat 11 Aug 12

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bus nut wrote:
it dont matter if your fat or thin black or white how much money you earn and how much money you have got if a child wants to misbehave they will have'nt you forgotten when you were a teenager how you used to rebell now whilst i agree this is not acceptable behavior and they will be punished one way or another i cant help to be annoyed at some of the comments on here. Ann no-one know your problems at home the mere fact that you have taken the time to try and explain your situation is a credit to you bringing up children isnt easy and when some people who have'nt even had kids try and say blame the parents we all know you have to let the lead go sometimes and hope they are sensible when they are out but you cant be there when they do something wrong so does that make you a bad parent no of course not also we hear on here that fat people are to blame and fat people should be locked up great shall we bring hitler back to live and all have blonde kids and kill the rest no i didnt think so either..... All i hope for is that your daughter gets some help to try and make her a better person and that you your family and your daughter can move on after her punishment whatever it be
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11:11pm Sat 11 Aug 12

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bus nut wrote:
it dont matter if your fat or thin black or white how much money you earn and how much money you have got if a child wants to misbehave they will have'nt you forgotten when you were a teenager how you used to rebell now whilst i agree this is not acceptable behavior and they will be punished one way or another i cant help to be annoyed at some of the comments on here. Ann no-one know your problems at home the mere fact that you have taken the time to try and explain your situation is a credit to you bringing up children isnt easy and when some people who have'nt even had kids try and say blame the parents we all know you have to let the lead go sometimes and hope they are sensible when they are out but you cant be there when they do something wrong so does that make you a bad parent no of course not also we hear on here that fat people are to blame and fat people should be locked up great shall we bring hitler back to live and all have blonde kids and kill the rest no i didnt think so either..... All i hope for is that your daughter gets some help to try and make her a better person and that you your family and your daughter can move on after her punishment whatever it be
Are you overweight by any chance?Reflect on your post - Are you a troll by any chance?!” no im not overweight nor am i a troll you obviously dont live in the real world as by your admission you are not a parent so why do you think it it is easy bringing up kids in this world ????? when you have kids of your own the by all means comment as you will have first hand knowledge of what it is like to bring up children yes i am a parent and if you was on a train with my two kids you wouldnt even know they were there but getting back to your question would it matter if i was overwieght prehaps i could be black then you could use the n word to make your point ... really you make me sick trying to comment when you dont know jack s*@t what it is really like in the real world to bring up children sure you can read books on the subject and all of a sudden your the best parent in the world try putting that into practice in the real world you may find it to be a bit different to what the books have told you so stop slagging off overweight people and stop trying tio tell parents how to bring up there kids as until you know what you are dealing with yourself as a parent you obviously have no idea what the hell you are talking about and if anyone is a troll i think its you .....Now on the other hand Ann i dont think anybody on here can say to you face to face you are a bad parent i know i wont the question i would be asking is what can i do to help you not are you fat or are you a bad parent what is a good parent anyway someone please enlighten me we all bring our children up to know right from wrong but its down to the child weather they listen reflect on your post has no idea what he/she is talking about ignor them typicle jack of all trades master of non lol

bus nut wrote:
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bus nut wrote:
it dont matter if your fat or thin black or white how much money you earn and how much money you have got if a child wants to misbehave they will have'nt you forgotten when you were a teenager how you used to rebell now whilst i agree this is not acceptable behavior and they will be punished one way or another i cant help to be annoyed at some of the comments on here. Ann no-one know your problems at home the mere fact that you have taken the time to try and explain your situation is a credit to you bringing up children isnt easy and when some people who have'nt even had kids try and say blame the parents we all know you have to let the lead go sometimes and hope they are sensible when they are out but you cant be there when they do something wrong so does that make you a bad parent no of course not also we hear on here that fat people are to blame and fat people should be locked up great shall we bring hitler back to live and all have blonde kids and kill the rest no i didnt think so either..... All i hope for is that your daughter gets some help to try and make her a better person and that you your family and your daughter can move on after her punishment whatever it be
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11:11pm Sat 11 Aug 12

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bus nut wrote:
it dont matter if your fat or thin black or white how much money you earn and how much money you have got if a child wants to misbehave they will have'nt you forgotten when you were a teenager how you used to rebell now whilst i agree this is not acceptable behavior and they will be punished one way or another i cant help to be annoyed at some of the comments on here. Ann no-one know your problems at home the mere fact that you have taken the time to try and explain your situation is a credit to you bringing up children isnt easy and when some people who have'nt even had kids try and say blame the parents we all know you have to let the lead go sometimes and hope they are sensible when they are out but you cant be there when they do something wrong so does that make you a bad parent no of course not also we hear on here that fat people are to blame and fat people should be locked up great shall we bring hitler back to live and all have blonde kids and kill the rest no i didnt think so either..... All i hope for is that your daughter gets some help to try and make her a better person and that you your family and your daughter can move on after her punishment whatever it be
Are you overweight by any chance?Reflect on your post - Are you a troll by any chance?!” no im not overweight nor am i a troll you obviously dont live in the real world as by your admission you are not a parent so why do you think it it is easy bringing up kids in this world ????? when you have kids of your own the by all means comment as you will have first hand knowledge of what it is like to bring up children yes i am a parent and if you was on a train with my two kids you wouldnt even know they were there but getting back to your question would it matter if i was overwieght prehaps i could be black then you could use the n word to make your point ... really you make me sick trying to comment when you dont know jack s*@t what it is really like in the real world to bring up children sure you can read books on the subject and all of a sudden your the best parent in the world try putting that into practice in the real world you may find it to be a bit different to what the books have told you so stop slagging off overweight people and stop trying tio tell parents how to bring up there kids as until you know what you are dealing with yourself as a parent you obviously have no idea what the hell you are talking about and if anyone is a troll i think its you .....Now on the other hand Ann i dont think anybody on here can say to you face to face you are a bad parent i know i wont the question i would be asking is what can i do to help you not are you fat or are you a bad parent what is a good parent anyway someone please enlighten me we all bring our children up to know right from wrong but its down to the child weather they listen reflect on your post has no idea what he/she is talking about ignor them typicle jack of all trades master of non lol

Au contraire!

Few points of note...

1). I am probably not quite old enough to have children - well not in a balanced sustainable relationship with enough longevity and income to give them the upbringing they deserve.

2). As only just finished being a child my experience is bang up to date, unlike many others, such as you

3). As frequently exposed to the actions of the offspring of others I can share first hand what I have noticed and believe a lot of these problem families have in common; read on......

*Single parent/partner not present

*Large number of unruly offspring

*Obese mother (puts energy into smoking and feeding herself)

*Children not engaged by mother

*Children shouted at by mother for even the most basic thing

*Children ignore shouts from parent as no prioritisation - shouts are standard communication

*Mother has no obvious awareness of impacts her offspring creates for others and therefore no respect

*Based on above, mother is probably unintelligent, maybe has difficulty in constructing clear communication, perhaps can't spell either

I am confident this list is not exhaustive, however wanted to address bus nut's outburst

Finally, there are many great families with well brought up, fun loving, respectful children out there and well done to those people (including my parents) who put the time in and energy and love to make it work. Obese mothers in benefit claiming problem families please note!

Well now a serious criminal act has been committed, the State will become this child's parent by sticking her in a youth detention centre or a home for children with psychological issues.
As for the victims, try and claim restitution from the child's family for your injuries.

ann-amos wrote:

george smith wrote:

juleshove wrote: Why were these children out at night by themselves. Their parents need to take responsibility. Shameful.

No doubt we pay the parents a small futune in credits and benefits to parent badly

As a parent of one of these girls, I would like to add that I am mortified. My daughter has always been brought up to know right from wrong. I have sat up nights not knowing where she is, reported her to the police as missing on several occasions. The police can only do so much. We have grounded her, taken her phone away, stopped her friends coming round, banned her from the using the pc. My husband works all the hours god sends, we pay a mortgage, we pay council tax at band D rate. We do not sponge off of the state in any shape or form. We let her out when her grounding is finished. She does not come home, we are back to square one. As parents we speak to her and try our best to bring her up rather than drag her up. I am disgusted with her behaviour and sincerely apologise to the victims involved. That does not and never will make it right. I wish that my daughter and her cronies could be made to see the damage and psychological distress that they have caused to each of their victims. Believe me I will not be defending her actions.

So no tax credits or child benefit paid for by tax payers? To be honest, by your own admission she is out of control, having committed gang violent muggings, I am surprised she is out on bail rather than somewhere more secure

Unbelievable - Went down to the beach today with my beloved and we sat watching the waves, enjoying the sun etc, until the families from hell arrived!

Guess what they were?

* 3 kids +

* Fat mother (in the main without partner)

* No control - kids chucking pebbles all over the place, mums busy smoking, drinking and eating

At noon our friends arrived (circa 20) and after 10 mins said the easy option was to move.

Welcome to the world of neglect, ignorance and disrespect.

Fortunately non of us were attacked on this occasion.

What the?

refelect on your post....well your parents obviously didn't do a good job of bringing you up if the derrogatory manor in which you speak about people is anything to go by! As stated by yourself, you are too young to have a family of your own, you have just left being a child, therefore I doubt you have the maturity to understand how relationships work, can have problems and somethings end. Being a single mum can happen in any walk of life to over weight or slim people. It is possible to change one's weight etc, but sadly it is not possible to change a person's totally stuck up view, especially when THEIR parent's have done a terrible job in bringing up such a spoilt and self righteous brat.

oh, and yes I have spelling mistakes as I am tired from doing a 12 hour night shift, as a nurse, slightly over weight and a single mum......you actually amuse me how you can think the way you do!!! pathetic. My child has daily contact with her father, and is a sweet child. Sometimes it's just peer pressure

george smith wrote:

ann-amos wrote:

george smith wrote:

juleshove wrote: Why were these children out at night by themselves. Their parents need to take responsibility. Shameful.

No doubt we pay the parents a small futune in credits and benefits to parent badly

As a parent of one of these girls, I would like to add that I am mortified. My daughter has always been brought up to know right from wrong. I have sat up nights not knowing where she is, reported her to the police as missing on several occasions. The police can only do so much. We have grounded her, taken her phone away, stopped her friends coming round, banned her from the using the pc. My husband works all the hours god sends, we pay a mortgage, we pay council tax at band D rate. We do not sponge off of the state in any shape or form. We let her out when her grounding is finished. She does not come home, we are back to square one. As parents we speak to her and try our best to bring her up rather than drag her up. I am disgusted with her behaviour and sincerely apologise to the victims involved. That does not and never will make it right. I wish that my daughter and her cronies could be made to see the damage and psychological distress that they have caused to each of their victims. Believe me I will not be defending her actions.

So no tax credits or child benefit paid for by tax payers? To be honest, by your own admission she is out of control, having committed gang violent muggings, I am surprised she is out on bail rather than somewhere more secure

@ George Smith.
Do you not understand the English language - be it The Queens English or English of any equation? My Husband works all the ours God sends to provide for our family! Therefore he is a tax payer, and probably pay a hell more in tax than you do on your broadband a month enabling your keyboard warrior skills! Also if is is so difficult for you to understand (not that is any of your business) We do not receive any state benefits in the way of credits. However I think you will find that if you were born after 1948 - EVERYONE in the Country was and is is entitled to child benefit - even the those that do not need it. I think you will find that your parents received it for you unless you are what you sound - A Dinosaur! Money does not equate to the fact that my Daughter was wrong! She will probably suffer for it - and I hope she does! But I hope it is her conscience that makes her suffer rather than hypocrites like yourself! Cast the first stone if you have never done a thing wrong in your life - but if you have (which I suspect you have as no one is perfect!) then speak your opinions by all means - but don't tar every one by the same brush! My Daughter was wrong! Their were children that were brought up during the war and had nothing! Their Father's were killed in action, their Mother's left as single parents - most of those children turned out well. So don't condemn something you know nothing about! I will not comment any more, each to their own, but some should look at themselves before condemning!

One more thing ( I expect the critics will condemn me for my spelling mistakes above - but I am not worried) My Daughter is not out of control. She did not commit the robberies or the attacks - but she was there. The Argus have failed to say that there were eight girls in total and the ones responsible ran away! They have since been caught! However that does not excuse the fact that my Daughter was present and continued to be present at the scenes! She is still grounded and will continue to be until this whole sorry epispde is over. But I doubt it will ever be over for the victims that were involved - and that is what matters!!!

Yes, two of those poor girls were my Spanish students on a study visit. First victims of the night.... I was on night duty walking down North Street after getting some students to get on their buses at Churchill square, I was walking down past poundland when they recognised my company jacket and came running up in floods of tears... such sweet girls, completely terrified of what had just happened. Took them to hospital as one was kicked and punched to the floor, I needed to make sure she had no internal injuries. Thankfully not, we then made a police report after hours (this was about 2am-ish) and by that time...they'd apparently arrested the girls that fitted my students description. The students are still here and have decided not to let this experience alter their opinion of Brighton.