A cannabis factory "in every street", dealer tells Argus

A cannabis factory "in every street" A cannabis factory "in every street"

Police have discovered rising numbers of hidden cannabis farms set up by criminals in rented homes across Sussex.

One dealer told The Argus he believed there was now a drug factory on every major street in Brighton and Hove.

Instead of risking discovery by growing cannabis in industrial quantities themselves, gangs are using an army of small-time dealers to grow super-strength “skunk” in residential homes across the county.

Earlier this month Sussex Police launched a handbook to help oblivious landlords spot the clues that their properties are being used to grow and sell drugs.

Police have also found evidence of landlords colluding with dealers to skim off drug profits for themselves.

So far this year officers have found 46 cannabis farms in residential properties in Sussex – already more than the whole of last year.

Argus reporter Bill Gardner was welcomed into one residential drug factory to lift the lid on a hidden network of drug dealers spreading out across the county.

 

 

I don't know what I was expecting exactly – but it certainly wasn’t this.

I thought drug dealers lived in filthy dens in grotty little side streets, perhaps with a posse of prostitutes, heavies and Rottweilers.

But instead I was standing at the door of a neat Regency town house on a pretty Hove street, waiting patiently for a criminal to let me inside.

Behind me, a mother pushed her pram down the tree-lined pavement and two schoolgirls wandered home along a row of parked cars.

Soon the door opened to reveal a respectable-looking young man dressed in shirt and jeans.

“Come in mate,” he said politely, ushering me into the house and through to a side-door to his basement flat.

Inside was a tiny hallway with three closed doors and a joss stick burning slowly on a table.

The dealer shut the door behind me and grinned.

“I call this my airlock,” he said. “You can’t smell anything bad can you?”

I shook my head.

“Good,” he said, kicking away a rolled up towel from the base of the left hand door before beckoning me quickly inside.

A sweet, almost sickly smell hit me right away. The room was darkened, with a black cloth covering over the single window.

On the ceiling, a giant silver pipe snaked between a set of piercing white lights and out of sight into an alcove.

The cannabis plants seemed huge. They were ranged in black pots in three rows of ten, with clumps of the drug hanging heavily from every branch.

“Pretty sweet, eh? They’re almost ready,” the drug dealer said, smirking proudly.

“So how much do you make off this?” I asked, trying to sound relaxed.

“Only about 14 grand a year profit including rent,” he said. “But I’m pretty small time compared to most of the growers around here.

“The thing is, it’s so easy. Landlords in Brighton are so stupid and most of them never bother coming to check what’s going on.

“As long as you keep the rent coming in, they don’t care. None of the neighbours have a clue either.”

He told me his expensive equipment had been rented from a so-called ‘head’ shop in downtown Brighton.

“That part’s all completely legal and they’ll take it back off you after you’ve finished. They know exactly what’s going on.

“They’ll even show you a scrapbook of seeds to buy before you start growing.”

The dealer told me many of the city dealers he knew chose not to live alongside their drug factories.

Instead, many employ “gardeners” to go round the rented flats to look after the precious plants.

“They go there about twice a week to make it look like someone’s living there – and sometimes the dealers put timers on the lights otherwise it might look suspicious,” he said.

“Usually there’s no way for the police or the neighbours to know what’s going on. I would say there is someone doing this on every street in Brighton now.”

According to Dean, cannabis production in Sussex is no longer directly in the hands of big time criminals.

After a police crackdown on skunk supply lines, the major players instead use small time dealers to grow cannabis for them in houses all over the city.

Each grower sends some of their crop to their money man, and they sell the rest in small “baggies” at premium prices to local smokers.

Dean said: “The problem is you lose money when you sell it in big bits so most people like to shift some of it themselves.

“It’s a hassle having people come round all the time though because people get suspicious. But it’s putting money back into the local economy so I think it’s a good thing for the city.”

Although the drug gangs make less money than when they grew the drug themselves in huge industrial operations, they have reduced their risk of serious punishment by spreading out production using small-time dealers.

Dean said: “There’s a huge hidden network of people in Brighton that has grown massively over the last few years.

“If the police find someone growing 300 plants, they’ll be in a lot of trouble. But if they find someone growing 30 plants, not much will happen.

“I know a guy who was found with a pretty major grow in his house and he got off with a caution.

“The reward is definitely worth the risk now.”

We sat chatting in the drug den for a few more minutes before it was time to go.

“Someone’ll be coming in a minute so you’d better shoot off,” he said.

As we said our goodbyes on his doorstep, a twenty-something man in a suit came up the stairs, looking nervous.

“Come in mate,” said the dealer, without a look at me, and I walked off quickly down the street.

Comments(55)

Camel54 says...
1:24pm Mon 22 Oct 12

I thought we wanted to encourage small enterprises?

Brightonite says...
1:37pm Mon 22 Oct 12

With no worry of discovery by distilling alcohol in industrial quantities themselves, breweries are using an army of small-time corner shops to sell super-strength beer to residents of homes across the county.

There is a distinct moral hypocrisy here. Which does more harm and is yet legal and acceptable?

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...
1:45pm Mon 22 Oct 12

And this weeks 'Hysterically Over-reacting Sub-Editor' award goes to ....

It's worth pointing out that he says 'every MAJOR street', and I think the printed version says there could be a factory 'in any street' - which is true. But kudos to the Argus subbie, he/she's obviously got a job application in with the Daily Mail and wants to be able to show them an example of their work.

NickBrt says...
1:54pm Mon 22 Oct 12

But isn't this exactly what Saint Caroline wants people to?

sussexram40 says...
1:57pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Small fry stuff. Legalise it and let's concentrate on real crime.

Tom Speed says...
2:00pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Could we please dispense with the 'super strength skunk' scaremongering?

There are probably as many strains of Cannabis as there are Wines, and one only needs to frequent one of the hundreds of 'grow forums' and read one of the many 'grow diaries' to see how utterly passionate people are about their Cannabis, they're as much connoisseurs of Cannabis, as are the wine drinking Judges who would sentence them for doing what they do!

Users of Cannabis enjoy the many strains available for a few reasons, recreational, medicinal & spiritual mainly, and as an ex-grower myself, to hear people marginalizing Cannabis as only being 'Skunk' is very annoying and also shows their ignorance on the subject.

Using alcohol as an analogy (all analogies are ultimately bad, but hey...), it would be like the Police, Government, and everyone else assuming that people *only* brewed some kind of potent Whiskey, when the truth is people actually enjoy brewing *all* manner of alcohol.

Government are deliberately dragging their feet with regard to Cannabis, they simply won't let go of Prohibition, even worse they continue to use the result *of* Prohibition (an unregulated market with products of unknown quantities), to reinforce the very same failed Policy!

Was it Einstein who said the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over & over and expecting a different result?

Cash Bull says...
2:03pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Tom Speed wrote:
Could we please dispense with the 'super strength skunk' scaremongering?

There are probably as many strains of Cannabis as there are Wines, and one only needs to frequent one of the hundreds of 'grow forums' and read one of the many 'grow diaries' to see how utterly passionate people are about their Cannabis, they're as much connoisseurs of Cannabis, as are the wine drinking Judges who would sentence them for doing what they do!

Users of Cannabis enjoy the many strains available for a few reasons, recreational, medicinal & spiritual mainly, and as an ex-grower myself, to hear people marginalizing Cannabis as only being 'Skunk' is very annoying and also shows their ignorance on the subject.

Using alcohol as an analogy (all analogies are ultimately bad, but hey...), it would be like the Police, Government, and everyone else assuming that people *only* brewed some kind of potent Whiskey, when the truth is people actually enjoy brewing *all* manner of alcohol.

Government are deliberately dragging their feet with regard to Cannabis, they simply won't let go of Prohibition, even worse they continue to use the result *of* Prohibition (an unregulated market with products of unknown quantities), to reinforce the very same failed Policy!

Was it Einstein who said the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over & over and expecting a different result?
I dunno the Einstein dude, and if he did say something deep, I guess I missed it.

baron Von Skidmark says...
2:08pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Better this than a 'Starbucks' ?? ...or Tesco Metro..?

Cash Bull says...
2:28pm Mon 22 Oct 12

baron Von Skidmark wrote:
Better this than a 'Starbucks' ?? ...or Tesco Metro..?
SMOKIN' Comment I agree 100 percent on that!

lorrie1 says...
2:39pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Tom Speed wrote:
Could we please dispense with the 'super strength skunk' scaremongering? There are probably as many strains of Cannabis as there are Wines, and one only needs to frequent one of the hundreds of 'grow forums' and read one of the many 'grow diaries' to see how utterly passionate people are about their Cannabis, they're as much connoisseurs of Cannabis, as are the wine drinking Judges who would sentence them for doing what they do! Users of Cannabis enjoy the many strains available for a few reasons, recreational, medicinal & spiritual mainly, and as an ex-grower myself, to hear people marginalizing Cannabis as only being 'Skunk' is very annoying and also shows their ignorance on the subject. Using alcohol as an analogy (all analogies are ultimately bad, but hey...), it would be like the Police, Government, and everyone else assuming that people *only* brewed some kind of potent Whiskey, when the truth is people actually enjoy brewing *all* manner of alcohol. Government are deliberately dragging their feet with regard to Cannabis, they simply won't let go of Prohibition, even worse they continue to use the result *of* Prohibition (an unregulated market with products of unknown quantities), to reinforce the very same failed Policy! Was it Einstein who said the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over & over and expecting a different result?
Einstien was definetly around when cannabis was legal! I cant see why not he didnt try it, Easy as m=2"????? cant remember, What were we talking about? Oh yeah LEGALIZE WEED!!!!

sosparty says...
2:41pm Mon 22 Oct 12

lets grow Hemp, turn it into Oil and cure Cancer.....

nemenator says...
2:44pm Mon 22 Oct 12

In and around Brixton there is a network of people who open grew a crop in their houses which was turned into alcohol and openly sold in local pubs. That was 3 weeks ago and it was very successful. This article shows the same enterprising spirit that made Brixton Beer is here in Brighton and could easily make a truly local Brighton tipple.

Toulous Le Plot says...
2:54pm Mon 22 Oct 12

I know that at the last 'LEGALISE DOPE' March over 2 million people meant to show up."

Crystal Ball says...
3:03pm Mon 22 Oct 12

"...in every street" - what an amazing claim and I am sure this person's sources are just as reliable and trustworthy as he is.

platelet says...
3:26pm Mon 22 Oct 12

I have for a long time wondered what the seemingly respectable old couple at no.44 were cultivating in their abode. I might just have a closer look.

sussexram40 says...
3:41pm Mon 22 Oct 12

The country is mad. Let's take alcohol and cannabis. Which one causes so many problems in society and costs the NHS, Police etc a huge amount of money and which one has virtually no adverse impact on society at all. Then consider which of those drugs is legal and which is illegal. Nuff said.

cvs says...
3:42pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Toulous Le Plot wrote:
I know that at the last 'LEGALISE DOPE' March over 2 million people meant to show up."
I know that old joke. They couldn't remember what they were doing that day.

A_Smith says...
3:48pm Mon 22 Oct 12

I can get a popular drug from almost every street corner in Brighton... alcohol, i don't drink myself but when I'm out i like to walk over the rivers of wee outside pubs whilst trying to avoid the violence and abuse, kills more people than any other drug combined each year but i can still be arrested for smoking a joint... legalize it, take the money from the 'gangs' let us decide, let us choose, control the strength/potency - have restrictions on purchase, tax it and guess what? no more cuts, no more hypocrisy... the reason why some skunk is strong is because of the chemicals used to make it grow faster for a faster sale, alternatively you could buy some really weak weed... but the dealers always take the money... lets not waste that 12Billion per year estimated profits from the legalization of cannabis... it's not a bad 'drug' doesn't kill anybody and if we could make a choice of brand/strength in a store then problem solved.

A_Smith says...
3:51pm Mon 22 Oct 12

and btw.. Carl Sagan used to smoke cannabis... if he can.. we all can, maybe learn something in the process.

Jetsamandflotsam says...
3:58pm Mon 22 Oct 12

So is this official " Green"Party Policy now?

Jetsamandflotsam says...
3:58pm Mon 22 Oct 12

So is this official " Green"Party Policy now?

Perseus says...
4:07pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Not recommended. It is a gigantic confidence trick.

MarkBrighton says...
4:07pm Mon 22 Oct 12

it's a victimless crime and as such shouldnt really be a crime at all.

People should really be allowed to eat drink or smoke whatever they want.. its their bodies.. their minds.. why do law makers think they have the right to dictate to people what they do with their own bodies.. when it harms no one.. where is the crime exactly?

lorrie1 says...
4:12pm Mon 22 Oct 12

If we are supposed to be in the E.U then surley we should go by there laws, In Brussels its tolerated in small amounts, Just across the border!
Then as we all know Holland, now spain, portugal,(Where ALL drugs are LEGAL in pesonal ammounts) greese, gemany and pretty much every other country in europe also supports this but whey dont they tolerate it here?
The goverment has no b@@s!

SeeYouJimmy says...
4:35pm Mon 22 Oct 12

how can a plant be illegal?

its a joke - the hypocracy of the government is unbelievable.
even when the is public support for legalisation they still think they know better.
even when the ACMD supports legalisation, the politicians know best.

they need to remember who they work for! what makes them specialists in the field of cannabis? they are actively reducing the number of scientists on the ACMD because they disagree with what they have to say.

screw you government

mr punch says...
4:52pm Mon 22 Oct 12

"Dean" sounds like a bit of a cabbage if you ask me, going round shooting his mouth off to reporters. people make loads of money smuggling fags and baccy and what is the govt's anwer? Put the prices up (derrrrrrrrrrr). So ppl choose to grow weed? So what? The old booze v dope arguement will go on forever and yes, booze is 50 times more lethal than dope.
I particlarly like the line........... "I thought drug dealers lived in filthy dens in grotty little side streets, perhaps with a posse of prostitutes, heavies and Rottweilers." Me thinks the argus should get some more modern reporters cos this geezer is either in a time warp.. or off his head!

Fairfax Sakes says...
4:52pm Mon 22 Oct 12

I knew it! Mind you, I had my suspicions about that neighbour already; Constant Dominoes deliveries, Bob Marley on loop, constantly calling me "duuude"...

Flippin Burghers says...
5:10pm Mon 22 Oct 12

baron Von Skidmark wrote:
Better this than a 'Starbucks' ?? ...or Tesco Metro..?
...and the boy gets a cigar!

Babs Stanley says...
6:33pm Mon 22 Oct 12

We need to stop this stupid and unwinnable war against cannabis. It is causing far more harm to our communities than it prevents. If we had a properly regulated system of production and supply we'd have no more illegal cannabis farms, instead we'd have thousands of new jobs. We'd have no more dealers on the streets. Cannabis would be available to adults only through licensed outlets and we'd have some control over the THC and CBD content.

Doctors would be able to prescribe one of the most effective medicines that has no serious side effects at all. At the moment the government has given GW Pharmaceuticals an illegal monopoly on cannabis so they make millions out of a medicine that you can grow in your greenhouse for virtually nothing.

If we introduced a legally regulated system we would solve nearly all the problems around cannabis. Science proves how much safer it is than tobacco, alcohol, prescription medicines and all other recreational drugs. If anyone does have a problem with it they could get help without having to confess to a crime.

CLEAR published independent, expert research last year which shows that a tax and regulate policy on cannabis would produce a net gain to the UK economy of up to £9.3 billion per annum.

It is a scandal that our government, our judges, our courts, our police and our newspapers keep misleading us about cannabis. Find out the truth for yourself and wake up to the lies you have been told.

Nitrous_McBread says...
6:48pm Mon 22 Oct 12

What pees me off most about all this is the missed opportunities: if weed was legalised and taxed, money would flood in to the nation's coffers which is currently going into the pockets of the criminal gangs - and there would be absolutely no need for the cuts we're witnessing to the benefits and services for the most vulnerable members of our community.

Plus, of course, quality could be controlled; people with a whole range of conditions could have easy, non-criminalising access to effective pain-relief; proper research could be implemented to develop a method of delivery which wasn't so harmful to the lungs; and the police would finally be free from having to fight the unwinnable, never-ending war against private citizens who, instead of going out, drinking and starting fights, prefer to sit at home, get mellow and listen to Zion Train LPs.

Maxwell's Ghost says...
6:55pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Joss sticks burning in the hallway.
Why is it that pot smokers stink of old ladies' bungalows, patchouli oil and damp hessian.
I don't care what they grow or smoke as long as they keep the windows shut because they stink of pi**.

jway87 says...
7:01pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Paranoid old men
keep marijuana illegal and
make children LESS safe.

hubby says...
8:44pm Mon 22 Oct 12

No wonder everybody is so fcuked up.

Flippin Burghers says...
9:25pm Mon 22 Oct 12

I for one will be keeping a close eye on Mr Gardner's work in future, looking for signs that he's gone off the rails and is partaking of the erb.

NattyFido says...
10:16pm Mon 22 Oct 12

So much wrong with this article
The bad journalism shouts from the page, I smell a future Daily Mail reporter-in-training
!
The reason 'skunk' is 'stronger' than other strains of weed is because it has been bred that way, just like shire horses have been bred to be stronger than your average horse.
The government (or anybody else) have NO right to tell me what I can and cannot put into my body. Why is it possible for a person to drink themselves to death for less than a weeks JSA, but illegal to smoke or eat a beneficial plant?
The tories want to cut spending on crime, decriminalise cannabis! Stop sending peaceful users of a plant to prison!
It is our duty as citizens to challenge bad laws, even if it means going to prison, they can't lock all of us up, we are legion!
Normalise now!

emma barnes says...
11:54pm Mon 22 Oct 12

I wont comment on the article. I am simply pleased that a reporter has actually gone out and about rather than cut n paste articles from Sussex Police press release or FOI replies. Well done for once.

JKW says...
6:37am Tue 23 Oct 12

think every street is going a tad far

Dr Pork says...
7:28am Tue 23 Oct 12

NattyFido wrote:
So much wrong with this article
The bad journalism shouts from the page, I smell a future Daily Mail reporter-in-training

!
The reason 'skunk' is 'stronger' than other strains of weed is because it has been bred that way, just like shire horses have been bred to be stronger than your average horse.
The government (or anybody else) have NO right to tell me what I can and cannot put into my body. Why is it possible for a person to drink themselves to death for less than a weeks JSA, but illegal to smoke or eat a beneficial plant?
The tories want to cut spending on crime, decriminalise cannabis! Stop sending peaceful users of a plant to prison!
It is our duty as citizens to challenge bad laws, even if it means going to prison, they can't lock all of us up, we are legion!
Normalise now!
I take it you've tried smoking a shire horse then?
I once vowed I'd never do anything stronger than a Shetland pony but they're little more than a gateway breed and dealers know this.

Skidrow says...
8:18am Tue 23 Oct 12

So when your blow is on sale in Boots, will you go there and buy it or would you prefer "organic" skunk, free from all those nasty chemicals the farmers would use to to cultivate them? Available from a bloke down the road, just as it is now.
Once it is legalised, will there be a queue at the red leb shelf or the moroccan black one? No, because no one will buy legalised blow. It will be far too dear. There will be import duty, VAT, Skunk tax, Punk tax and anyone else who knows me tax as well as a large profit for whichever supermarket sells it, so again, it will be better to buy it from the bloke who does the organic, down the road.

BiggerH says...
8:34am Tue 23 Oct 12

I'd get mine from Boots every time - I need the Advantage points

Nosfaratu says...
8:48am Tue 23 Oct 12

Has anybody who has commented actually 'NOT' smoked the stuff, as you all seem pretty clued up.

Babs Stanley says...
9:06am Tue 23 Oct 12

Skidrow wrote:
So when your blow is on sale in Boots, will you go there and buy it or would you prefer "organic" skunk, free from all those nasty chemicals the farmers would use to to cultivate them? Available from a bloke down the road, just as it is now.
Once it is legalised, will there be a queue at the red leb shelf or the moroccan black one? No, because no one will buy legalised blow. It will be far too dear. There will be import duty, VAT, Skunk tax, Punk tax and anyone else who knows me tax as well as a large profit for whichever supermarket sells it, so again, it will be better to buy it from the bloke who does the organic, down the road.
Nonsense, once it becomes legally available, growing your own will become a niche hobby for eccentrics. A wide variety of high quality products will be available with a choice of cannabinoid ratios.

It'll become a consumer market like any other.

Dr Pork says...
9:24am Tue 23 Oct 12

Nosfaratu wrote:
Has anybody who has commented actually 'NOT' smoked the stuff, as you all seem pretty clued up.
I never inhaled

SmileyD says...
9:43am Tue 23 Oct 12

Nitrous_McBread wrote:
What pees me off most about all this is the missed opportunities: if weed was legalised and taxed, money would flood in to the nation's coffers which is currently going into the pockets of the criminal gangs - and there would be absolutely no need for the cuts we're witnessing to the benefits and services for the most vulnerable members of our community.

Plus, of course, quality could be controlled; people with a whole range of conditions could have easy, non-criminalising access to effective pain-relief; proper research could be implemented to develop a method of delivery which wasn't so harmful to the lungs; and the police would finally be free from having to fight the unwinnable, never-ending war against private citizens who, instead of going out, drinking and starting fights, prefer to sit at home, get mellow and listen to Zion Train LPs.
Blimey - you mean people actually listen to Zion Train LP's? I thought they just used them to skin up on!

Tom Speed says...
9:49am Tue 23 Oct 12

Again, there isn't only 'Skunk' available, and also, 'Skunk' as a name for Cannabis can be traced back in popular culture to 1986 at least.

In an episode of Cheers, one of the show's main characters, Diane (the blonde barmaid) comments on a painting, and she says (words to the effect of): "looks like the artist was on 'skunk weed' when he painted that picture." (Hey I'm a fan of the show.... shoot me! :) )

As for GW Pharma... well well now...the very company that has filed 35 or so Cannabis related Patents in the last 10 years!
(Source European Patent Office): http://i.imgur.com/v
lu12.jpg

Everything from Cancer to 'breathlessness' (part of their C.O.P.D Patent)

http://worldwide.esp
acenet.com/searchRes
ults?compact=false&S
T=quick&DB=EPODOC&pa
ge=1&locale=en_EP&IA
=gw+pharma&sortField
=ud&ascending=true

The truth is out there! :)

Skidrow says...
10:53am Tue 23 Oct 12

Babs Stanley says...
9:06am Tue 23 Oct 12

Skidrow wrote:
So when your blow is on sale in Boots, will you go there and buy it or would you prefer "organic" skunk, free from all those nasty chemicals the farmers would use to to cultivate them? Available from a bloke down the road, just as it is now.
Once it is legalised, will there be a queue at the red leb shelf or the moroccan black one? No, because no one will buy legalised blow. It will be far too dear. There will be import duty, VAT, Skunk tax, Punk tax and anyone else who knows me tax as well as a large profit for whichever supermarket sells it, so again, it will be better to buy it from the bloke who does the organic, down the road.

Nonsense, once it becomes legally available, growing your own will become a niche hobby for eccentrics. A wide variety of high quality products will be available with a choice of cannabinoid ratios.

It'll become a consumer market like any other.

Er, no it won't because it will never happen! Even if it did, in a consumer market, price is king. It isn't a case of growing your own, it is a case of growing to supply a local market.

Flippin Burghers says...
11:41am Tue 23 Oct 12

Folks let's get some cold water on the old face and do a reality check. The thrust of this article is: "rising numbers of hidden cannabis farms set up by criminals in rented homes across Sussex." And what evidence for that is presented? One grower's opinion plus police figures. Ah, those figures: "So far this year officers have found 46 cannabis farms in residential properties in Sussex – already more than the whole of last year." Er, hello, it's the end of October now, so that means more in the past 10 months than the preceding 12. Hmmm.

PorkBoat says...
12:44pm Tue 23 Oct 12

Dr Pork wrote:
Nosfaratu wrote:
Has anybody who has commented actually 'NOT' smoked the stuff, as you all seem pretty clued up.
I never inhaled
I inhaled but never exhaled.

Nosfaratu says...
1:39pm Tue 23 Oct 12

PorkBoat wrote:
Dr Pork wrote:
Nosfaratu wrote: Has anybody who has commented actually 'NOT' smoked the stuff, as you all seem pretty clued up.
I never inhaled
I inhaled but never exhaled.
I was right then, i am having an on-line conversation with junkies.

Why dont the Green Party create a 'Free Zone' where everybody can get their weed from the plants growing in the Councils flower beds. They could have 'Weed Wardens, fining anybody not smoking and creat another revenue pool.

Just though it may appeal to all the above.

Dr Pork says...
2:07pm Tue 23 Oct 12

Nosfaratu wrote:
PorkBoat wrote:
Dr Pork wrote:
Nosfaratu wrote: Has anybody who has commented actually 'NOT' smoked the stuff, as you all seem pretty clued up.
I never inhaled
I inhaled but never exhaled.
I was right then, i am having an on-line conversation with junkies.

Why dont the Green Party create a 'Free Zone' where everybody can get their weed from the plants growing in the Councils flower beds. They could have 'Weed Wardens, fining anybody not smoking and creat another revenue pool.

Just though it may appeal to all the above.
Great idea but don't hold your breath

PorkBoat says...
3:13pm Tue 23 Oct 12

Dr Pork wrote:
Nosfaratu wrote:
PorkBoat wrote:
Dr Pork wrote:
Nosfaratu wrote: Has anybody who has commented actually 'NOT' smoked the stuff, as you all seem pretty clued up.
I never inhaled
I inhaled but never exhaled.
I was right then, i am having an on-line conversation with junkies.

Why dont the Green Party create a 'Free Zone' where everybody can get their weed from the plants growing in the Councils flower beds. They could have 'Weed Wardens, fining anybody not smoking and creat another revenue pool.

Just though it may appeal to all the above.
Great idea but don't hold your breath
Wish someone had told me that before.

egym64 says...
9:22pm Tue 23 Oct 12

lorrie1 wrote:
If we are supposed to be in the E.U then surley we should go by there laws, In Brussels its tolerated in small amounts, Just across the border!
Then as we all know Holland, now spain, portugal,(Where ALL drugs are LEGAL in pesonal ammounts) greese, gemany and pretty much every other country in europe also supports this but whey dont they tolerate it here?
The goverment has no b@@s!
I'm sorry, but where is " Greese & Gemany"?? If you're going to join a debate then PLEASE use spell check!!

OldBrightonian says...
10:39pm Tue 23 Oct 12

NOTE the OLD brightonian! In my day Dope was 'natural' BUT it is now completely different. Super STRENGTH skunk etc which DOES have negative effects on some YOUNG smokers. I think that taking drug supply away from THUGS and the BIG BOYS is good - ideally it should be Government controlled, with subsidies paid - muck like tobacco production in Spain. I'm all for SMALL business enterprise - and it's tough times out there!! I say legalise EVERY drug - but make those addicts LIVE UNDER SUPERVISION/PRISON/G
OV'T HOSTELS etc - ie off the Streets where they end up preying on the GOOD citizens who CONTRIBUTE to society, and don't opt for the DROP OUT scenario.

portslade pete says...
12:34am Wed 24 Oct 12

Camel54 wrote:
I thought we wanted to encourage small enterprises?
Can he put them on google maps? After all, every pub is on there. Live and let live.....

grumpybumm says...
5:56pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Somebody once said it is only illegal because they have not got round to taxing it yet.

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