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10:23am Friday 11th June 2010 in
Peacehaven's seagulls are dive-bombing and attacking humans after a spate of bird shootings.
Conservation experts say the birds have become “abnormally aggressive” in reaction to poor treatment by people in Peacehaven.
In scenes reminiscent of Alfred Hitchcock’s film The Birds, gulls have been flying at people and pecking at their pets.
The National Gull Rescue And Protection group said there had been dozens of calls about birds injured by people in the town in the past couple of weeks.
It said the gulls had been attacking residents after roofs were cleared of nests, eggs smashed and birds shot.
Tim McKenzie, from the charity, said: “We are getting more crimes against gulls in Peacehaven than the rest of the towns along the South Coast put together.
“Part of the problem is the birds have become abnormally aggressive there but it is a defensive action.”
Mr McKenzie said he had heard of at least ten cases of gulls being shot with BB guns in Peacehaven in the past couple of weeks.
Shooting a seagull is a criminal offence, with a maximum sentence of six months in jail or a £20,000 fine.
Last month the charity said there had been a spate of gulls being shot across Sussex, with more than 50 cases of deliberately wounded birds in Brighton, Hove, Eastbourne and Seaford.
Seagulls can often become aggressive if they feel their nests or young are under threat.
Rosemary Howat, of Livingstone Road, Hove, said a pair of birds had started attacking her after building a nest in her garden, even though she has been taking care of them.
Ms Howat said: “It’s got to the point where I can’t go outside in case they come at me.
“I need to get a hard hat to protect my head when I hang out my washing.
My cat is scared to go outside because they keep trying to attack it, but I know they are just trying to protect their chicks.”
Comments(61)
Lady Smith
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10:44am Fri 11 Jun 10
censored
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10:49am Fri 11 Jun 10
Big Nasty
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10:51am Fri 11 Jun 10
hoveboy
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11:05am Fri 11 Jun 10
Big Nasty wrote::-O
The answer is shoot more of them, preferably with a .25 that usually kills them stone dead or poison the horrible things, flying rats, that being said though I think the reason seagulls (herring gulls) are actually becoming more aggressive is more to do with the chav junk food that is left lying everywhere,think about all the chemicals and rubbish in that so called food, animals were not made to eat artificial junk that must effect the hormone balance, look at the behaviour of the people or animals/birds that eat lots of junk food, the behaviour pattens are very similar.
Brian J Sewers
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11:28am Fri 11 Jun 10
fretlessbass
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11:32am Fri 11 Jun 10
Big Nasty
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11:35am Fri 11 Jun 10
fretlessbass wrote:All I can say is the ones that were living on my chimney are no more!!!.
Big Nasty; you're an idiot. What goes around comes around. All power to the birds. I just hope they know where Big Nasty lives and make a pre-emptive strike.
RottingdeanRant
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12:11pm Fri 11 Jun 10
needtosay
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12:28pm Fri 11 Jun 10
pun master
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12:57pm Fri 11 Jun 10
RottingdeanRant
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1:05pm Fri 11 Jun 10
needtosay
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1:19pm Fri 11 Jun 10
RottingdeanRant wrote:Fair enough Rottingdean rant ,but how are you going to explain to the seagulls that you want them to stay on the cliffs to nest ?..shooting them is not the answer .
Needtosay - Most of Peacehaven (and Rottingdean) are not 'buy the sea' there are simply close to the sea. If the Herring Gulls kept o their natural habitat - that is the sea cliffs - then there would not be a problem.
Saker-Clive
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1:23pm Fri 11 Jun 10
gmgc81
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1:32pm Fri 11 Jun 10
VoodooGangbanger
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1:47pm Fri 11 Jun 10
gmgc81 wrote:Difference is the birds can do as they please with no recourse, we are both animals at the core of it and dawinism dictates we rid undesirables from our living area, and that includes seagulls.
Shooting any creature no matter whether they are vermin or not is cruel. I don't blame the seagulls for acting on defensive instinct. If someone attacked you you'd be likely inclined to retaliate in a defensive manner.
Big Nasty
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2:01pm Fri 11 Jun 10
PeteBrighton
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2:03pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Andre Spooner
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2:04pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Murgatroyd
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2:08pm Fri 11 Jun 10
VoodooGangbanger wrote:I'm not sure who this Dawin is you refer to but he talks rubbish.
gmgc81 wrote:Difference is the birds can do as they please with no recourse, we are both animals at the core of it and dawinism dictates we rid undesirables from our living area, and that includes seagulls.
Shooting any creature no matter whether they are vermin or not is cruel. I don't blame the seagulls for acting on defensive instinct. If someone attacked you you'd be likely inclined to retaliate in a defensive manner.
from a dawinistic aproach they should probally die, they have just become scavenger vermin like pigeons and are constantly tearing up refuse bags across brighton.
really who would miss a loud violent messy bird that scavenges and likely carries disease .
Big Nasty
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2:10pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Andre Spooner
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2:18pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Big Nasty wrote:I bet you wouldn't adapt well to being attacked by a Mighty Horse! I can just see the headlines:
Doesn't adapt to well to a .25 slug though.......
Stripes
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2:31pm Fri 11 Jun 10
RottingdeanRant wrote:What on merlin's beard are you talking about?! Most of Rottingdean and Peacehaven aren't 'buy the sea' (sic)??!!
Needtosay - Most of Peacehaven (and Rottingdean) are not 'buy the sea' there are simply close to the sea. If the Herring Gulls kept o their natural habitat - that is the sea cliffs - then there would not be a problem.
Lady Smith
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2:56pm Fri 11 Jun 10
VoodooGangbanger wrote:Nice logic. Lots of human beings are loud, messy and violent, scavenge, and carry far more diseases than seagulls. Shall we shoot them too?
gmgc81 wrote: Shooting any creature no matter whether they are vermin or not is cruel. I don't blame the seagulls for acting on defensive instinct. If someone attacked you you'd be likely inclined to retaliate in a defensive manner.Difference is the birds can do as they please with no recourse, we are both animals at the core of it and dawinism dictates we rid undesirables from our living area, and that includes seagulls. from a dawinistic aproach they should probally die, they have just become scavenger vermin like pigeons and are constantly tearing up refuse bags across brighton. really who would miss a loud violent messy bird that scavenges and likely carries disease .
dixie normous
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4:05pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Mike D P
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4:30pm Fri 11 Jun 10
John Steed
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5:26pm Fri 11 Jun 10
RottingdeanRant wrote:the whole area is by the sea, its that wet stuff that is found all along the southern side of peacehaven and rottingdean, or are you spending all your time looking at flying rats in the air to notice. south heighton is close to the sea but not by it and if you lived in surrey all of the south coast is by the sea, Durrington station states durrington on sea, yet Goring happens to be in between, however the article is not about apparent lack of geographical knowlege and terminology of rottingdenerant its about nuisance gulls. the problem with gulls is the explosion of food waste to be found on our streets, and the lack of food to be found at sea, they are breeding like wildfire and contribute noise and filth in return, If i was aware of any one shooting them I would happily pay for a tin of pellets.
Needtosay - Most of Peacehaven (and Rottingdean) are not 'buy the sea' there are simply close to the sea. If the Herring Gulls kept o their natural habitat - that is the sea cliffs - then there would not be a problem.
UglyAmerican
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5:29pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Lady Smith wrote:Yes.
VoodooGangbanger wrote:Nice logic. Lots of human beings are loud, messy and violent, scavenge, and carry far more diseases than seagulls. Shall we shoot them too?
gmgc81 wrote: Shooting any creature no matter whether they are vermin or not is cruel. I don't blame the seagulls for acting on defensive instinct. If someone attacked you you'd be likely inclined to retaliate in a defensive manner.Difference is the birds can do as they please with no recourse, we are both animals at the core of it and dawinism dictates we rid undesirables from our living area, and that includes seagulls. from a dawinistic aproach they should probally die, they have just become scavenger vermin like pigeons and are constantly tearing up refuse bags across brighton. really who would miss a loud violent messy bird that scavenges and likely carries disease .
Metadadaist
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5:57pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Saker-Clive wrote:You are utter tosh because you don't even understand what you read! That applies to the Lesser Black-backed Gull NOT the Herring Gull. The owner of the land (or another authorised person listed under conditon 13) is allowed to move or destroy a Herring Gull nest but they can't touch the bird. So it turns out that Tim McKenzie is absolutely correct (although he should have clarified Herring Gull, but seeing as the whole story is about Herring Gulls then hardly necessary) in his statement and you're just thick.
Quote: Tim McKenzie:
Shooting a seagull is a criminal offence, with a maximum sentence of six months in jail or a £20,000 fine.
This is utto tosh; I think people need to read 'general licences'........
http://www.naturalen
gland.org.uk/Images/
genl07_tcm6-7671.pdf
Saker-Clive
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6:29pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Saker-Clive
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6:32pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Metro Reader
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9:50pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Metro Reader
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9:52pm Fri 11 Jun 10
cheezburger
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10:37pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Metro Reader wrote:So do drug users, the poor, etc etc. Should we kill them too? You know seagulls can live for 30 years? Who the hell are you to say they should be killed?
I must declare an interest here, I suffer from Orniphobia, and normally I am ok if I can keep at least 6 feet between myself and the bird. Question: We cull Rabbits, Foxes, Badgers, Deer, rats etc so why not birds? Yes B&H is by the sea, we kill foxes and deer in the county so it is no different. Virgin is vermin, and should be controlled, in as humane and cost effective way as possible. Seagulls (all varieties), pigeons, swallows, magpie, crow etc are all carry disease so numbers should be kept under control.
Stop Mithering
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10:53pm Fri 11 Jun 10
Baldseagull
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1:21am Sat 12 Jun 10
dixie normous wrote:Taste more like Peregrine Falcon in my opinion.
i dont mind that the people shoot them, they are there in abundance, but dont waste them, eat them, we eat all other kinds of birds, its no big deal. they are fine to eat, rather delicate flavour, taste a bit like swan.
Baldseagull
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1:30am Sat 12 Jun 10
Saker-Clive wrote:So, not allowed to shoot the parent birds then, as reported.
(ii) Authorised persons to take, damage or destroy the nests or to take or destroy their eggs of the species listed below:
Gull, Herring Larus argentatus
YOU GO AND RE-READ IT.
dcsussex
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6:09am Sat 12 Jun 10
Acheron
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7:48am Sat 12 Jun 10
needtosay wrote:I'm sorry, but it's absolute tosh that if we leave them alone they will do the same. I have watched them from my kitchen destroy parts of my garden, barging stuff off of walls, overturning pots etc. Now they are protected they aren't even bothered when you try to move them on. Add to that they are scaring off the garden birds as well. I'm sorry, but they are becoming a menace and the population is now growing at such a rate they are moving inland fast given I'm by the downs.
I live in north Peacehaven and have heard the gunshot , and the distress cries of the seagulls .
Whoever is doing this the answer is simple "dont live by the sea if you dont like seagulls ". .Leave them alone and they will leave you alone .
dcsussex
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9:27am Sat 12 Jun 10
Acheron wrote:Oh right, now we have massive bionic seagulls capable of destroying brick walls and upturning posts!!!
needtosay wrote: I live in north Peacehaven and have heard the gunshot , and the distress cries of the seagulls . Whoever is doing this the answer is simple "dont live by the sea if you dont like seagulls ". .Leave them alone and they will leave you alone .I'm sorry, but it's absolute tosh that if we leave them alone they will do the same. I have watched them from my kitchen destroy parts of my garden, barging stuff off of walls, overturning pots etc. Now they are protected they aren't even bothered when you try to move them on. Add to that they are scaring off the garden birds as well. I'm sorry, but they are becoming a menace and the population is now growing at such a rate they are moving inland fast given I'm by the downs.
Big Nasty
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11:01am Sat 12 Jun 10
dcsussex wrote:You may TRY to attack me but you wouldn't stand a chance mate! look at my user name!, I wouldn't the gun to deal with a internet warrior like you! IDIOT......
Big Natsy - if i ever see you with a gun shooting seagulls, i WILL attack you without a doubt. Fact.
When i am done i will report you to the police for having a firearm in public and pointing it at me.
There has just been a mass murder involving an aparrently normal man going on a rampage. BAN ALL GUNS NOW....
Metro Reader
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11:09am Sat 12 Jun 10
cheezburger wrote:........and you are who exactly, to speak to me like that?
Metro Reader wrote: I must declare an interest here, I suffer from Orniphobia, and normally I am ok if I can keep at least 6 feet between myself and the bird. Question: We cull Rabbits, Foxes, Badgers, Deer, rats etc so why not birds? Yes B&H is by the sea, we kill foxes and deer in the county so it is no different. Virgin is vermin, and should be controlled, in as humane and cost effective way as possible. Seagulls (all varieties), pigeons, swallows, magpie, crow etc are all carry disease so numbers should be kept under control.So do drug users, the poor, etc etc. Should we kill them too? You know seagulls can live for 30 years? Who the hell are you to say they should be killed?
heavenscentrose
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2:25pm Sat 12 Jun 10
Big Nasty wrote:We all know that, by your own admission, you break the law with impunity. Be careful what you post here as the authorities have access to what you write.
fretlessbass wrote: Big Nasty; you're an idiot. What goes around comes around. All power to the birds. I just hope they know where Big Nasty lives and make a pre-emptive strike.All I can say is the ones that were living on my chimney are no more!!!.
shopliftingadulteress
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4:14pm Sat 12 Jun 10
JohnDeHaura
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1:34am Sun 13 Jun 10
JohnDeHaura
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1:39am Sun 13 Jun 10
shopliftingadulteress
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2:08pm Sun 13 Jun 10
dixie normous
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4:41pm Sun 13 Jun 10
shopliftingadulteresah, what fun, personally i like the hot english mustard powder, wrapped in a bread pellet, the little buggers can fly really fast to the sea to get a drink, and the water then activates the mustard powder. the things you do whilst walking the beat, eh.
s wrote:
Bait Hooks with bread throw it up and you can play them in Silence whilst reeling them in....more of a Sport....and they taste a little like Fox Cub.
Big Nasty
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6:45pm Sun 13 Jun 10
shopliftingadulteress
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11:02pm Sun 13 Jun 10
ghonda
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10:46am Mon 14 Jun 10
shopliftingadulteress
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10:16am Wed 16 Jun 10
Lady Smith wrote:YES! Now you are talking!
VoodooGangbanger wrote:Nice logic. Lots of human beings are loud, messy and violent, scavenge, and carry far more diseases than seagulls. Shall we shoot them too?
gmgc81 wrote: Shooting any creature no matter whether they are vermin or not is cruel. I don't blame the seagulls for acting on defensive instinct. If someone attacked you you'd be likely inclined to retaliate in a defensive manner.Difference is the birds can do as they please with no recourse, we are both animals at the core of it and dawinism dictates we rid undesirables from our living area, and that includes seagulls. from a dawinistic aproach they should probally die, they have just become scavenger vermin like pigeons and are constantly tearing up refuse bags across brighton. really who would miss a loud violent messy bird that scavenges and likely carries disease .
JohnDeHaura
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12:54pm Wed 16 Jun 10
nicandy2
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7:42pm Wed 16 Jun 10
shopliftingadulteresyes please,i want a license to kill for my birthday.so if anybody stands in the middle of the pavement chatting it would be their last
s wrote:
Lady Smith wrote:YES! Now you are talking!VoodooGangbanger wrote:Nice logic. Lots of human beings are loud, messy and violent, scavenge, and carry far more diseases than seagulls. Shall we shoot them too?gmgc81 wrote: Shooting any creature no matter whether they are vermin or not is cruel. I don't blame the seagulls for acting on defensive instinct. If someone attacked you you'd be likely inclined to retaliate in a defensive manner.Difference is the birds can do as they please with no recourse, we are both animals at the core of it and dawinism dictates we rid undesirables from our living area, and that includes seagulls. from a dawinistic aproach they should probally die, they have just become scavenger vermin like pigeons and are constantly tearing up refuse bags across brighton. really who would miss a loud violent messy bird that scavenges and likely carries disease .
nicandy2
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7:47pm Wed 16 Jun 10
JohnDeHaura wrote:exactly,why live on the coast and moan about seagulls?.
As some of you may o may not know, the Hering Gull is in serious decline and is in red status according to the RSPB website. http://www.rspb.org. uk/wildlife/birdguid e/name/h/herringgull /index.aspx Can I please call for all fellow animal lovers to bring any waste scraps to a beach to feed these poor hungry animals, as it seems man has taken away all of their food from the sea through over-fishing and literally raping the sea so they can just stuff their faces with food they don't really actually need to eat. Please, lets feed these poor creatures and encourage them back to the seasides where they belong for ever. If anyone does not like them, then please clear on out of Brighton and Hove and move further north, as these creatures were here way before you even existed.
chipmunk77
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6:24pm Mon 21 Jun 10
JohnDeHaura wrote:Oh please! What utter rot!
As some of you may o may not know, the Hering Gull is in serious decline and is in red status according to the RSPB website. http://www.rspb.org. uk/wildlife/birdguid e/name/h/herringgull /index.aspx Can I please call for all fellow animal lovers to bring any waste scraps to a beach to feed these poor hungry animals, as it seems man has taken away all of their food from the sea through over-fishing and literally raping the sea so they can just stuff their faces with food they don't really actually need to eat. Please, lets feed these poor creatures and encourage them back to the seasides where they belong for ever. If anyone does not like them, then please clear on out of Brighton and Hove and move further north, as these creatures were here way before you even existed.
Tetsugaku-San
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2:11pm Fri 2 Jul 10
Big Nasty wrote:I hope someone shoots you you t w a t.
The answer is shoot more of them, preferably with a .25 that usually kills them stone dead or poison the horrible things, flying rats, that being said though I think the reason seagulls (herring gulls) are actually becoming more aggressive is more to do with the chav junk food that is left lying everywhere,think about all the chemicals and rubbish in that so called food, animals were not made to eat artificial junk that must effect the hormone balance, look at the behaviour of the people or animals/birds that eat lots of junk food, the behaviour pattens are very similar.
Saker-Clive
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5:33pm Sat 3 Jul 10
Mabel
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8:44am Mon 5 Jul 10
JamboBrighton
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2:51pm Tue 6 Jul 10
Andre Spooner wrote:Total and utter legend.
Bravo! Bravo! The seagulls are reclaiming what is rightfully theirs! My Mighty Horse attended the annual Animals Of Sussex Conference the other week, and he says that the seagulls are planning to invade coastal areas such as Rottingdean and convert them into seagull villages! This is a plan that I am 100% in favour of! I shall leap upon my Mighty Horse and we shall join the parade of seagulls, and even the crackle and pop of air rifles fired by the stupid shall not stop us! They shall crumble beneath the hooves of the Mighty Horse and the slashing beaks of the Herring Gulls, and their blood shall gush onto the floor, and their air guns shall rust beside them, and Rottingdean and Peacehaven shall truly become a home for these delightful birds! Beware! Beware! For I sing the Battle Hymn of the Seagulls! Beware! Beware! With Mighty Horse accompaniment! Beware! Beware! The shriek of the gulls approaches! Beware, Peacehaven! Beware, Rottingdean! Beware, the stupid with the air rifles! All shall flee! Those with rifles shall be slashed with the pointy beaks of the gulls! Slash! Slash! The gull will seize revenge! Peacehaven shall truly become a haven of peace... OF SEAGULL PEACE!! BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO! SPOONER RIDES AGAIN!!!
razmate
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5:19pm Thu 8 Jul 10
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