Hoskins spot-on for Albion

Will Hoskins (right), scored from the spot for Albion

Will Hoskins (right), scored from the spot for Albion

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

  Albion's penalty woes could be over.


  They have scored from the spot again after Stephen Dobbie's late success from 12 yards at Wolves earlier this month.


  This time it was Will Hoskins in a 1-1 friendly draw against his old club Watford this afternoon.


  Hoskins accepted the responsibility of equalising in the second half of the run-out at Watford's London Colney training ground, even though Dobbie was also in the side.

  Dobbie's conversion at Wolves ended a sequence of four saved penalties out of 11 for Albion, the latest Craig Mackail-Smith's second spot-kick against Leeds at The Amex.


  The Seagulls' line-up against Watford, watched by boss Gus Poyet, also included Inigo Calderon at centre half and midfielders Gary Dicker, Ryan Harley, Matt Sparrow and David.


  The Watford team contained players potentially available for loan as well before Thursday's deadline. Clubs represented by scouts included Brentford and AFC Wimbledon.


  Watford's first half goalscorer was Geoffrey Mujangi Bia, on loan from Belgian club Standard Liege.

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4:39pm Tue 20 Nov 12

VegasSeagull says...

So other than opening a loan shop window what was the point of this match?
So other than opening a loan shop window what was the point of this match? VegasSeagull
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4:48pm Tue 20 Nov 12

JoeBlow says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
So other than opening a loan shop window what was the point of this match?
Good grief. Wrong side of the bed this morning?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So other than opening a loan shop window what was the point of this match?[/p][/quote]Good grief. Wrong side of the bed this morning? JoeBlow
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4:48pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Ringmer Rich says...

To try players in different positions, To give some players some extra match fitness in a competitive game, etc etc
To try players in different positions, To give some players some extra match fitness in a competitive game, etc etc Ringmer Rich
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4:49pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Ringmer Rich says...

To try players in different positions, To give some players some extra match fitness in a competitive game, etc etc
To try players in different positions, To give some players some extra match fitness in a competitive game, etc etc Ringmer Rich
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5:01pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Jonathan Mouette says...

As I can not believe for one minute that Stephen Dobbie has been put in the loan window I am going to hope against hope that Will Hoskins is in the same position of getting or maintaining match fitness. To send him out on loan now would be tantamount to madness... shooting yourself in the foot... and a thousand and one other idioms. Hopefully Gus will understand at least one of them and get Will running alongside CMS in what could be a deadly partnership. Fingers crossed!!!
As I can not believe for one minute that Stephen Dobbie has been put in the loan window I am going to hope against hope that Will Hoskins is in the same position of getting or maintaining match fitness. To send him out on loan now would be tantamount to madness... shooting yourself in the foot... and a thousand and one other idioms. Hopefully Gus will understand at least one of them and get Will running alongside CMS in what could be a deadly partnership. Fingers crossed!!! Jonathan Mouette
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5:03pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Jonathan Mouette says...

And don't forget - where there's a will there's a way. With Buckers and Hoskins in the same team (at last) there will be more than way to open up those all too common negative defences...!
And don't forget - where there's a will there's a way. With Buckers and Hoskins in the same team (at last) there will be more than way to open up those all too common negative defences...! Jonathan Mouette
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5:08pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Gee Jay says...

These players all need as much match fitness as they can get. You can spend hours on a training ground, but you can't beat a bit of inter-club competition.
Step up Will Hoskins! The Amex crowd are 'willing' you to make your mark and establish yourself in the first team squad.

Maximum noise for these next two home games! UTA
These players all need as much match fitness as they can get. You can spend hours on a training ground, but you can't beat a bit of inter-club competition. Step up Will Hoskins! The Amex crowd are 'willing' you to make your mark and establish yourself in the first team squad. Maximum noise for these next two home games! UTA Gee Jay
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6:21pm Tue 20 Nov 12

ShorehamBeachcomber says...

Poor call not giving the more likely first teamer Dobbie more practice & Andrew, my old friend, 4 out of 11 ain't a sequence & it ain't ended
Poor call not giving the more likely first teamer Dobbie more practice & Andrew, my old friend, 4 out of 11 ain't a sequence & it ain't ended ShorehamBeachcomber
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6:30pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Freeloaders says...

Well you can now all see i was 100% right about LuaLua a few weeks back.Like i said thats why know other clubs wanted to sign him.They all did their home work.Even NUFC with all their millions wanted a freeloaer off their wage bill.Very odd we can not post on the story.
Well you can now all see i was 100% right about LuaLua a few weeks back.Like i said thats why know other clubs wanted to sign him.They all did their home work.Even NUFC with all their millions wanted a freeloaer off their wage bill.Very odd we can not post on the story. Freeloaders
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6:35pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Freeloaders says...

Who works on the clubs madical team Doctor fox.Do they ever get the time limit for a injury on a player right.With Hoskins at first it was between 4 & 5 weeks,but it turned into half a season.Now we get the same with Bridge lol.
Who works on the clubs madical team Doctor fox.Do they ever get the time limit for a injury on a player right.With Hoskins at first it was between 4 & 5 weeks,but it turned into half a season.Now we get the same with Bridge lol. Freeloaders
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6:35pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Freeloaders says...

Who works on the clubs madical team Doctor fox.Do they ever get the time limit for a injury on a player right.With Hoskins at first it was between 4 & 5 weeks,but it turned into half a season.Now we get the same with Bridge lol.
Who works on the clubs madical team Doctor fox.Do they ever get the time limit for a injury on a player right.With Hoskins at first it was between 4 & 5 weeks,but it turned into half a season.Now we get the same with Bridge lol. Freeloaders
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6:42pm Tue 20 Nov 12

wiseman of hove says...

Ringmer Rich wrote:
To try players in different positions, To give some players some extra match fitness in a competitive game, etc etc
Nothing pointless about this match. Eminently sensible. We can't keep wrapping up players in cotton wool in the hope they do not get injured. Clearly Hoskins and Dobbie have been given an opportunity to sharpen fitness ready for Saturday. Calderon, David and Dicker have had varying limited playing times recently so useful for them. The manager was clearly there to watch the aforesaid, not run the rule over two loan situations - Sparrow and Harley. Surely?
[quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: To try players in different positions, To give some players some extra match fitness in a competitive game, etc etc[/p][/quote]Nothing pointless about this match. Eminently sensible. We can't keep wrapping up players in cotton wool in the hope they do not get injured. Clearly Hoskins and Dobbie have been given an opportunity to sharpen fitness ready for Saturday. Calderon, David and Dicker have had varying limited playing times recently so useful for them. The manager was clearly there to watch the aforesaid, not run the rule over two loan situations - Sparrow and Harley. Surely? wiseman of hove
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6:46pm Tue 20 Nov 12

wiseman of hove says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
To try players in different positions, To give some players some extra match fitness in a competitive game, etc etc
Nothing pointless about this match. Eminently sensible. We can't keep wrapping up players in cotton wool in the hope they do not get injured. Clearly Hoskins and Dobbie have been given an opportunity to sharpen fitness ready for Saturday. Calderon, David and Dicker have had varying limited playing times recently so useful for them. The manager was clearly there to watch the aforesaid, not run the rule over two loan situations - Sparrow and Harley. Surely?
Just to clarify - agreeing with Ringer Rich comments!
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: To try players in different positions, To give some players some extra match fitness in a competitive game, etc etc[/p][/quote]Nothing pointless about this match. Eminently sensible. We can't keep wrapping up players in cotton wool in the hope they do not get injured. Clearly Hoskins and Dobbie have been given an opportunity to sharpen fitness ready for Saturday. Calderon, David and Dicker have had varying limited playing times recently so useful for them. The manager was clearly there to watch the aforesaid, not run the rule over two loan situations - Sparrow and Harley. Surely?[/p][/quote]Just to clarify - agreeing with Ringer Rich comments! wiseman of hove
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6:59pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Jonathan Mouette says...

Come to think of it wouldn't this have been an ideal game to give our Senor Vicente a run...? Not too cold, not to wet, not too heavy, decent(ish) opposition and not too many cloggers... so where was/is the lad...? Still nursing a sore thigh...? I've known serious breaks heal quicker than this. Shame he couldn't make it, some unsuspecting club may have taken him on loan.
Come to think of it wouldn't this have been an ideal game to give our Senor Vicente a run...? Not too cold, not to wet, not too heavy, decent(ish) opposition and not too many cloggers... so where was/is the lad...? Still nursing a sore thigh...? I've known serious breaks heal quicker than this. Shame he couldn't make it, some unsuspecting club may have taken him on loan. Jonathan Mouette
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7:54pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Come to think of it wouldn't this have been an ideal game to give our Senor Vicente a run...? Not too cold, not to wet, not too heavy, decent(ish) opposition and not too many cloggers... so where was/is the lad...? Still nursing a sore thigh...? I've known serious breaks heal quicker than this. Shame he couldn't make it, some unsuspecting club may have taken him on loan.
Breaks, at least simple ones, are relatively straightforward to heal. Deep-seated groin problems can take months (and often do, as I found out to my cost earlier in the year).
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Come to think of it wouldn't this have been an ideal game to give our Senor Vicente a run...? Not too cold, not to wet, not too heavy, decent(ish) opposition and not too many cloggers... so where was/is the lad...? Still nursing a sore thigh...? I've known serious breaks heal quicker than this. Shame he couldn't make it, some unsuspecting club may have taken him on loan.[/p][/quote]Breaks, at least simple ones, are relatively straightforward to heal. Deep-seated groin problems can take months (and often do, as I found out to my cost earlier in the year). Old Scrote of the Amex
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8:18pm Tue 20 Nov 12

seagulls92 says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Come to think of it wouldn't this have been an ideal game to give our Senor Vicente a run...? Not too cold, not to wet, not too heavy, decent(ish) opposition and not too many cloggers... so where was/is the lad...? Still nursing a sore thigh...? I've known serious breaks heal quicker than this. Shame he couldn't make it, some unsuspecting club may have taken him on loan.
Seeing as it is reported as a thigh problem for vicente, i believe he could be suffering from tendonitis, which can become chronic, especially with older players. The correct way to treat this is roughly 6 months of rehabilitation. On this thread, i do rate hoskins as a very good player who can be a key player or us in the months ahead. g
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Come to think of it wouldn't this have been an ideal game to give our Senor Vicente a run...? Not too cold, not to wet, not too heavy, decent(ish) opposition and not too many cloggers... so where was/is the lad...? Still nursing a sore thigh...? I've known serious breaks heal quicker than this. Shame he couldn't make it, some unsuspecting club may have taken him on loan.[/p][/quote]Seeing as it is reported as a thigh problem for vicente, i believe he could be suffering from tendonitis, which can become chronic, especially with older players. The correct way to treat this is roughly 6 months of rehabilitation. On this thread, i do rate hoskins as a very good player who can be a key player or us in the months ahead. g seagulls92
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8:20pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Bucket feet Duffy says...

Muscle, ligament and tendon damage can be much more difficult to heal than a break ! That said if bridge is out for long it could hamper any push for one of the top spots, given that we don't let our best players go and bring in some more bench warmers think we've got enough players to fill those key positions, lol
Muscle, ligament and tendon damage can be much more difficult to heal than a break ! That said if bridge is out for long it could hamper any push for one of the top spots, given that we don't let our best players go and bring in some more bench warmers think we've got enough players to fill those key positions, lol Bucket feet Duffy
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11:50pm Tue 20 Nov 12

KeefyH44 says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Come to think of it wouldn't this have been an ideal game to give our Senor Vicente a run...? Not too cold, not to wet, not too heavy, decent(ish) opposition and not too many cloggers... so where was/is the lad...? Still nursing a sore thigh...? I've known serious breaks heal quicker than this. Shame he couldn't make it, some unsuspecting club may have taken him on loan.
He didn't (doesn't) want to be here, he made that clear. What better way to repay what he saw as betrayal than to feign illness and take the money. I feel that we should cut our losses and let him go.
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Come to think of it wouldn't this have been an ideal game to give our Senor Vicente a run...? Not too cold, not to wet, not too heavy, decent(ish) opposition and not too many cloggers... so where was/is the lad...? Still nursing a sore thigh...? I've known serious breaks heal quicker than this. Shame he couldn't make it, some unsuspecting club may have taken him on loan.[/p][/quote]He didn't (doesn't) want to be here, he made that clear. What better way to repay what he saw as betrayal than to feign illness and take the money. I feel that we should cut our losses and let him go. KeefyH44
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12:08am Wed 21 Nov 12

VegasSeagull says...

I have to think that the Bridge is no more than has been stated and that he will be back playing very soon. My reason for thinking this is simply that Gus has played this one down, and his comments would have come after the medical team have examined the injury.

I am pretty sure that the guy heading up the medical team has advised Gus with regards how long each player will be out when injured, I am not so sure that Gus is always being straight with the press, the opposition read the papers too.

The head of the midical team is very hight regarded in the field of sports medicine, his credentials are impecable, which brings me to Vicente.
I will not accept that the doctor doesn't know what is wrong with Vicente or that he dpesn't know how to treat him. Vicente has always been a slow healer, he once blamed a former clubs medical team for not getting him back playing sooner than they did.

If, as I have said in the past, Vicente is just stringing us all along then the medical team would know it. If this is the case and the medical team know it, then they would have to be engaged in a conspiracy with the clubs management, and now I have given this more thought I am not so sure about Vicente.

Is it plausable to think that a well respected doctor would soil his name just to save the club the embarassment of having to admit that Vicente has gone on strike, I think not.
I have come around to thinking that Vicente does have a genuine injury and that as I said, he is a slow healer. I still think that the guy should be cut loose, I don't see the value in keeping him with each game passing it is just one less game for him to play.
I am sure that all the players on Brighton's books have various clauses in their contracts, and I would bet that there is one in Vicente's that covers injury time outs.

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I have to think that the Bridge is no more than has been stated and that he will be back playing very soon. My reason for thinking this is simply that Gus has played this one down, and his comments would have come after the medical team have examined the injury. I am pretty sure that the guy heading up the medical team has advised Gus with regards how long each player will be out when injured, I am not so sure that Gus is always being straight with the press, the opposition read the papers too. The head of the midical team is very hight regarded in the field of sports medicine, his credentials are impecable, which brings me to Vicente. I will not accept that the doctor doesn't know what is wrong with Vicente or that he dpesn't know how to treat him. Vicente has always been a slow healer, he once blamed a former clubs medical team for not getting him back playing sooner than they did. If, as I have said in the past, Vicente is just stringing us all along then the medical team would know it. If this is the case and the medical team know it, then they would have to be engaged in a conspiracy with the clubs management, and now I have given this more thought I am not so sure about Vicente. Is it plausable to think that a well respected doctor would soil his name just to save the club the embarassment of having to admit that Vicente has gone on strike, I think not. I have come around to thinking that Vicente does have a genuine injury and that as I said, he is a slow healer. I still think that the guy should be cut loose, I don't see the value in keeping him with each game passing it is just one less game for him to play. I am sure that all the players on Brighton's books have various clauses in their contracts, and I would bet that there is one in Vicente's that covers injury time outs. . VegasSeagull
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1:56am Wed 21 Nov 12

Carter_Cooldancer says...

Does this make sense to you all?

The Argus report says "Dobbie's conversion at Wolves ended a sequence of four saved penalties out of 11 for Albion".

How is 4 saved penalties out of 11 a sequence? How does making it 5 out of 12 end a sequence that has no logical symmetry i.e. missed 2, scored two etc?

Just asking.

Surely
Does this make sense to you all? The Argus report says "Dobbie's conversion at Wolves ended a sequence of four saved penalties out of 11 for Albion". How is 4 saved penalties out of 11 a sequence? How does making it 5 out of 12 end a sequence that has no logical symmetry i.e. missed 2, scored two etc? Just asking. Surely Carter_Cooldancer
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7:19am Wed 21 Nov 12

born again seagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I have to think that the Bridge is no more than has been stated and that he will be back playing very soon. My reason for thinking this is simply that Gus has played this one down, and his comments would have come after the medical team have examined the injury.

I am pretty sure that the guy heading up the medical team has advised Gus with regards how long each player will be out when injured, I am not so sure that Gus is always being straight with the press, the opposition read the papers too.

The head of the midical team is very hight regarded in the field of sports medicine, his credentials are impecable, which brings me to Vicente.
I will not accept that the doctor doesn't know what is wrong with Vicente or that he dpesn't know how to treat him. Vicente has always been a slow healer, he once blamed a former clubs medical team for not getting him back playing sooner than they did.

If, as I have said in the past, Vicente is just stringing us all along then the medical team would know it. If this is the case and the medical team know it, then they would have to be engaged in a conspiracy with the clubs management, and now I have given this more thought I am not so sure about Vicente.

Is it plausable to think that a well respected doctor would soil his name just to save the club the embarassment of having to admit that Vicente has gone on strike, I think not.
I have come around to thinking that Vicente does have a genuine injury and that as I said, he is a slow healer. I still think that the guy should be cut loose, I don't see the value in keeping him with each game passing it is just one less game for him to play.
I am sure that all the players on Brighton's books have various clauses in their contracts, and I would bet that there is one in Vicente's that covers injury time outs.

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Great to see your change of mind re Vicente Vegas. I do wish others would do the same. Although I dont agree about cutting him loose,he would be a great player to see us through the final push later in the season and in any case we would have to pay off his contract, so whats the point in that.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I have to think that the Bridge is no more than has been stated and that he will be back playing very soon. My reason for thinking this is simply that Gus has played this one down, and his comments would have come after the medical team have examined the injury. I am pretty sure that the guy heading up the medical team has advised Gus with regards how long each player will be out when injured, I am not so sure that Gus is always being straight with the press, the opposition read the papers too. The head of the midical team is very hight regarded in the field of sports medicine, his credentials are impecable, which brings me to Vicente. I will not accept that the doctor doesn't know what is wrong with Vicente or that he dpesn't know how to treat him. Vicente has always been a slow healer, he once blamed a former clubs medical team for not getting him back playing sooner than they did. If, as I have said in the past, Vicente is just stringing us all along then the medical team would know it. If this is the case and the medical team know it, then they would have to be engaged in a conspiracy with the clubs management, and now I have given this more thought I am not so sure about Vicente. Is it plausable to think that a well respected doctor would soil his name just to save the club the embarassment of having to admit that Vicente has gone on strike, I think not. I have come around to thinking that Vicente does have a genuine injury and that as I said, he is a slow healer. I still think that the guy should be cut loose, I don't see the value in keeping him with each game passing it is just one less game for him to play. I am sure that all the players on Brighton's books have various clauses in their contracts, and I would bet that there is one in Vicente's that covers injury time outs. .[/p][/quote]Great to see your change of mind re Vicente Vegas. I do wish others would do the same. Although I dont agree about cutting him loose,he would be a great player to see us through the final push later in the season and in any case we would have to pay off his contract, so whats the point in that. born again seagull
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8:09am Wed 21 Nov 12

dave from bexill says...

Thought I was on the wrong thread and had to check I wasn't reading the Lancet, with all these medical experts giving their opinions.
Thought I was on the wrong thread and had to check I wasn't reading the Lancet, with all these medical experts giving their opinions. dave from bexill
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9:31am Wed 21 Nov 12

pappaK says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
As I can not believe for one minute that Stephen Dobbie has been put in the loan window I am going to hope against hope that Will Hoskins is in the same position of getting or maintaining match fitness. To send him out on loan now would be tantamount to madness... shooting yourself in the foot... and a thousand and one other idioms. Hopefully Gus will understand at least one of them and get Will running alongside CMS in what could be a deadly partnership. Fingers crossed!!!
I can see the rolling stone is not gathering any of your moss today Jonathan.Have you been reading up the book on Idiom`s.Don`t forget ,a SEAGULL in the hand is worth more than 2 from Shepards BUSH.Have a good one.Taking bets we won`t bother with a target man.
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: As I can not believe for one minute that Stephen Dobbie has been put in the loan window I am going to hope against hope that Will Hoskins is in the same position of getting or maintaining match fitness. To send him out on loan now would be tantamount to madness... shooting yourself in the foot... and a thousand and one other idioms. Hopefully Gus will understand at least one of them and get Will running alongside CMS in what could be a deadly partnership. Fingers crossed!!![/p][/quote]I can see the rolling stone is not gathering any of your moss today Jonathan.Have you been reading up the book on Idiom`s.Don`t forget ,a SEAGULL in the hand is worth more than 2 from Shepards BUSH.Have a good one.Taking bets we won`t bother with a target man. pappaK
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9:38am Wed 21 Nov 12

LACHANCE says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Thought I was on the wrong thread and had to check I wasn't reading the Lancet, with all these medical experts giving their opinions.
Good post.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Thought I was on the wrong thread and had to check I wasn't reading the Lancet, with all these medical experts giving their opinions.[/p][/quote]Good post. LACHANCE
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10:00am Wed 21 Nov 12

tug509 says...

It would be great to believe that Gus was checking out WH ahead of playing him in some capacity against Bolton,by all accounts he did well at Huddersfield,a packed Amex crowd behind him could work wonders.

In fact i would go as far as to predict a WH goal on saturday if he plays.Thanks for the chuckle JM,your on good form. UTA
It would be great to believe that Gus was checking out WH ahead of playing him in some capacity against Bolton,by all accounts he did well at Huddersfield,a packed Amex crowd behind him could work wonders. In fact i would go as far as to predict a WH goal on saturday if he plays.Thanks for the chuckle JM,your on good form. UTA tug509
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5:22pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Eddy B says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
So other than opening a loan shop window what was the point of this match?
...and What was the point of this article? :) .. apart from to get round to talking about Vicente again (I believe he took a penalty too in pre season but no idea where this came in the "sequence".)
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So other than opening a loan shop window what was the point of this match?[/p][/quote]...and What was the point of this article? :) .. apart from to get round to talking about Vicente again (I believe he took a penalty too in pre season but no idea where this came in the "sequence".) Eddy B
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