Calderon on standby for Albion (From The Argus)

I wonder if Greer will pass to him, or, like v Ipswich, if he'll go the whole game without using Calderon as an outlet. At least he used him twice in the Birmingham match...

Inigo Calderon,good guy and a excellent professional.
An example to all the younger players at the Amex.
Doesn't throw his toys out of the pram if he does not play. If he is on the bench,he is constantly 'warming up' with exercises and running, encouraging his teamates who are on the pitch.
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He was looking good on Saturday when he came on, bombing down the right wing

Calderon to get one against Forest if he gets the nod, and a good win for the Seagulls...

Funny how we see players in a different light, Calderon was the best thing since sliced bread a year or so, now we see him slightly as a weak link when playing! Great player to have in a squad, no silly transfer requests,
Any news on Vicente? Will he make the,ayers Xmas party? Lol

I see Forster caskey can't make the starting 11 for Oxford, funny how every time we lose a game, the clamour for his returns comes out on here,
Will he make it at this level? Not sure, looking at the players who have come through, Robinson, Fraser, and ELphick all struggling once away from here.

mark by the sea wrote:
I see Forster caskey can't make the starting 11 for Oxford, funny how every time we lose a game, the clamour for his returns comes out on here,
Will he make it at this level? Not sure, looking at the players who have come through, Robinson, Fraser, and ELphick all struggling once away from here.

I think we should get him back, I wouldn't be surprised that Oxford are not using him but will try and buy him in January. Wasn't it 3 games he played for us last season and and didn't he score a couple and get man of the match in two of the games? :)

Gee Jay wrote:
Inigo Calderon,good guy and a excellent professional.
An example to all the younger players at the Amex.
Doesn't throw his toys out of the pram if he does not play. If he is on the bench,he is constantly 'warming up' with exercises and running, encouraging his teamates who are on the pitch.
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Perfect summary of Calde's contribution to the Albion cause. Despite the fact that he is less involved these days he must go down as one of Gus's best signings.

mark by the sea wrote:
I see Forster caskey can't make the starting 11 for Oxford, funny how every time we lose a game, the clamour for his returns comes out on here,
Will he make it at this level? Not sure, looking at the players who have come through, Robinson, Fraser, and ELphick all struggling once away from here.

Waste of time judging JFC by how other players have managed. He is not them!

Dr Baldhead wrote:

Gee Jay wrote:
Inigo Calderon,good guy and a excellent professional.
An example to all the younger players at the Amex.
Doesn't throw his toys out of the pram if he does not play. If he is on the bench,he is constantly 'warming up' with exercises and running, encouraging his teamates who are on the pitch.
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Perfect summary of Calde's contribution to the Albion cause. Despite the fact that he is less involved these days he must go down as one of Gus's best signings.

Totally agree with these two posts. For me Calde is the model pro. If he does play Saturday I have no concerns about it weakening the side at all. In actual fact I dont feel Bruno has been quite on his game of late, which is very likely to be down to the niggles he has. One thing I have noticed with Bruno lately especially on several occasions at Charlton was how he seems to pull out of seriously challenging for headers. He turns his back half the time and appears to hope the other player misses it. Any thoughts?

Rib problems could be the cause for the turning of his back when jumping, offers protection to that area.

Calde, as other have rightly said, a perfect pro.

JFC, probably needs to come home to continue his education, maybe, with all due respect to Oxford, it was a step too low for him. The lad can only play the system that Oxford adopt and if that is a tad route one then he will not progress.

Off topic I know.

I wonder how many of you know that Tony Bloom is a highly respected poker player. Tony has locked heads with some of the best players in the world and beat them.

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VegasSeagull wrote:
Off topic I know. I wonder how many of you know that Tony Bloom is a highly respected poker player. Tony has locked heads with some of the best players in the world and beat them. .

Tony's earnings from poker currently sit at $2.6 million.

I think most fans know Bloom is a poker player.

Grendel wrote:
I think most fans know Bloom is a poker player.

it's 5.35am here and I am bored, just a little titbit I posted.

Most gamblers are losers,nothing to brage about, its an addiction?the only tning i would gamble on is BHA to finnesh mid table,but would not put money on it,false life?

VegasSeagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Off topic I know. I wonder how many of you know that Tony Bloom is a highly respected poker player. Tony has locked heads with some of the best players in the world and beat them. .

Tony's earnings from poker currently sit at $2.6 million.

This is why we should have have unconditional faith in the club, he is no fool and everything is a calculated.

It would be hard to give the guy advice or tell him where he has got things wrong.

VegasSeagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Off topic I know. I wonder how many of you know that Tony Bloom is a highly respected poker player. Tony has locked heads with some of the best players in the world and beat them. .

Tony's earnings from poker currently sit at $2.6 million.

Played against him in 2006 twice in Melbourne,and in 2009 but not on the same table.Plays mainly OZ or UK.VG player knows his cards,does not get involved in anything that he cannot control.Is a VERY ASTUTE business man.I underline ASTUTE. Clever ,cunning,shrewd

IFi was you Vegas i would get some sleep or sort your misses out,or your partner,just a little titbit?that might be the problem but with the money you have won in VEGAS you must have enough dosh to sort out that plastice stuff?si,no,adios,pe
ople ike you really get up my nose,talk in wads but got Fall

Hovite wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Off topic I know. I wonder how many of you know that Tony Bloom is a highly respected poker player. Tony has locked heads with some of the best players in the world and beat them. .

Tony's earnings from poker currently sit at $2.6 million.

This is why we should have have unconditional faith in the club, he is no fool and everything is a calculated. It would be hard to give the guy advice or tell him where he has got things wrong.

Yep I have to agree, the guy knows the percentages, poker or running our club, it's all about risk assesment.

campotolox wrote:
IFi was you Vegas i would get some sleep or sort your misses out,or your partner,just a little titbit?that might be the problem but with the money you have won in VEGAS you must have enough dosh to sort out that plastice stuff?si,no,adios,pe ople ike you really get up my nose,talk in wads but got Fall

Not sure I understand this posting.

I, 'talk in wads,,' if I knew what that meant I guess I would reply but sadly I don't.

Campo it's now 5.55am, I have had my sleep.

There is only one person that wins in gambling and its not the punter?

VegasSeagull wrote:
Off topic I know.

I wonder how many of you know that Tony Bloom is a highly respected poker player. Tony has locked heads with some of the best players in the world and beat them.

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Known as The Lizard.

pappaK wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Off topic I know. I wonder how many of you know that Tony Bloom is a highly respected poker player. Tony has locked heads with some of the best players in the world and beat them. .

Tony's earnings from poker currently sit at $2.6 million.

Played against him in 2006 twice in Melbourne,and in 2009 but not on the same table.Plays mainly OZ or UK.VG player knows his cards,does not get involved in anything that he cannot control.Is a VERY ASTUTE business man.I underline ASTUTE. Clever ,cunning,shrewd

I would love to sit down at his table, yes because he would be playing but also because of those that would also be at the table.
I don't see tournament poker as gambling, as I am sure you don't either, it's all about the odds for each hand. It takes a special kind of person to get to final table, probabaly needs the same attributes to chair a sucsessful football club.

Nice try with the compliment PappaK, complete BS about playing against the Lizard.

mark by the sea wrote:
Funny how we see players in a different light, Calderon was the best thing since sliced bread a year or so, now we see him slightly as a weak link when playing! Great player to have in a squad, no silly transfer requests, Any news on Vicente? Will he make the,ayers Xmas party? Lol

Your right MBS that some fans do see Calde as a weak link sometimes which I think is very unfair. In all honesty, as much as I think Bruno is great, i'm not convinced that he is better than Calde. Calde can get forward ( ok not as good as Bruno) and he is a much better defender. All regulars on this site will note my imense dislike for our lack of aerial ability, and Calde is one of the better ones in the air. I for one am a big Calde fan as I know he always does a great job for us... if not better than Bruno.

Tommy11 wrote:

mark by the sea wrote: Funny how we see players in a different light, Calderon was the best thing since sliced bread a year or so, now we see him slightly as a weak link when playing! Great player to have in a squad, no silly transfer requests, Any news on Vicente? Will he make the,ayers Xmas party? Lol

Your right MBS that some fans do see Calde as a weak link sometimes which I think is very unfair. In all honesty, as much as I think Bruno is great, i'm not convinced that he is better than Calde. Calde can get forward ( ok not as good as Bruno) and he is a much better defender. All regulars on this site will note my imense dislike for our lack of aerial ability, and Calde is one of the better ones in the air. I for one am a big Calde fan as I know he always does a great job for us... if not better than Bruno.

Tough one to call IMHO, Bruno or Calde as far as who is better. In all honesty I think we are blessed with two players of equal quality but each of them has strong points to their game.
Our lack of arial ability is very true and worrying to some degree. Defensive heading is one thing, a defender usualy wins out but it's when we look for goals from set pieces I get so frustrated.

i THINK YOU MISS HOME VEGAS AND YOU USE THIS SITE TO GET LOADS OFF STUFF OUT OF YOUR HEAD,WE OR OTHER PEOPLE DONT WANT TO KNOW IF YOU GAMBLE,WADS,MONEY NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN YOU,THINK YOU ARE A SAD PERSON,BET YOUR KIDS ARE NOT PROUD OF YOU BECAUSE YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON THIS SITE WHEN YOU SHOULD BE PUTTING THAT INTO YOUR FAMILY,THERE YOU GO,HAVE SOME WADS OF THAT!!!

Hovite, you have long standing as a Brighton supporter so tell me this, what would you say is the paramount need for the club with regard to our squad.

Some would say that we MUST get a striker, others want a striker/hold up player. There is also the center back issue. Should we strengthen at the back to stop goals conceded or should we go the other way and try to score more?

Does a 1-0 win not mean the same as a 2-1 win, it's three points. I am torn on this one.

campotolox wrote:
i THINK YOU MISS HOME VEGAS AND YOU USE THIS SITE TO GET LOADS OFF STUFF OUT OF YOUR HEAD,WE OR OTHER PEOPLE DONT WANT TO KNOW IF YOU GAMBLE,WADS,MONEY NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN YOU,THINK YOU ARE A SAD PERSON,BET YOUR KIDS ARE NOT PROUD OF YOU BECAUSE YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON THIS SITE WHEN YOU SHOULD BE PUTTING THAT INTO YOUR FAMILY,THERE YOU GO,HAVE SOME WADS OF THAT!!!

Campo I really don't understand you at all, I have tried but it just dosen't happen.

Of course I miss home, I love to chat with fellow Brits about Brighton but my life is here now. As far as my kids are concerned, yes they are proud of me and what I do here, but then you don't know what I do here, do you.

Gamble wads of money, I have never said that and I don't, unless you think that $100 is a, WAD OF MONEY.

You are a sad person Campo but just like anyone else, you can post what ever you want, and thta includes me.



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How do i know you went to the Knoll,you get it all back to front in your spelling,not a problem ,you might be dili,whatever,cant spell that , but what really gets up my nose all the manegers on this site know more than Gus,4,3,3,1,22,i was going BHA when you where a twinkle in your dads eye,used to do all the reserves but for me its gone out of the window now because its got out of hand,its a sport,you dont throw things at people,it is so wrong and it will kill the game!!

Bet you went to the Knoll Vegas because you get everthing back to front?

Campo what you seem to not understand is that people offering opinions and thoughts about the team, is exactly what this site is all about.

Yes we play at being managers, it's fun to see if your ideas are the same as the club's or the real manager's ideas.
If we didn't offer our thoughts what would be the point in visiting the site, oh yeah, we offer our thoughts ont he team just as you do.

I am glad to hear that you have been a Brighton supporter for many years, I am sure that during those years you have had many thoguhts and opinions, why don't you just join in rather than write in the way you do.

No I didn't go to Knoll school but I am sure that some very fine people did.

Hovite wrote:
Nice try with the compliment PappaK, complete BS about playing against the Lizard.

Read up on the concept of running a Poker Comp mate.It might enlighten you

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite, you have long standing as a Brighton supporter so tell me this, what would you say is the paramount need for the club with regard to our squad.

Some would say that we MUST get a striker, others want a striker/hold up player. There is also the center back issue. Should we strengthen at the back to stop goals conceded or should we go the other way and try to score more?

Does a 1-0 win not mean the same as a 2-1 win, it's three points. I am torn on this one.

We do need a strong hold up player. I've been really impressed with Fellaini this season.

He says his best position is midfield but David Moyes like to use him as a CF. Either way, strong and adaptable. Van Percie would have an impact in this team not that this is on the cards, but it is an example how one fantastic player can make all the difference.

I think we are doing well with the cards TB has been dealt, but to carry on playing the way we are and get better at it is key. Every game is a lesson for the players and it is more about the team learning from their mistakes and making the right decisions. There has been a massive improvement from last season although it doesn’t show it in the table.

If we do get one or two players in Jan, they have to be the right ones, but I think we can make the top six with what we have got if we improve as a team and take our chances in front of goal.

Vicente is listed as "doubtful" for the players' Christmas party due to a slight right elbow strain.

saltdeanres wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
I see Forster caskey can't make the starting 11 for Oxford, funny how every time we lose a game, the clamour for his returns comes out on here,
Will he make it at this level? Not sure, looking at the players who have come through, Robinson, Fraser, and ELphick all struggling once away from here.

I think we should get him back, I wouldn't be surprised that Oxford are not using him but will try and buy him in January. Wasn't it 3 games he played for us last season and and didn't he score a couple and get man of the match in two of the games? :)

Consistency, consistency, consistency.

The footballing world is littered with ex-pro's who make great impacts and play outstanding football, and should have gone onto great things, but could only muster that quality in patches (normally when they're trying to get a new contract). Not saying JFC is like that, he's young, but its the consistency that makes great players.

campotolox wrote:
i THINK YOU MISS HOME VEGAS AND YOU USE THIS SITE TO GET LOADS OFF STUFF OUT OF YOUR HEAD,WE OR OTHER PEOPLE DONT WANT TO KNOW IF YOU GAMBLE,WADS,MONEY NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN YOU,THINK YOU ARE A SAD PERSON,BET YOUR KIDS ARE NOT PROUD OF YOU BECAUSE YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON THIS SITE WHEN YOU SHOULD BE PUTTING THAT INTO YOUR FAMILY,THERE YOU GO,HAVE SOME WADS OF THAT!!!

If vegas is sad, then you are the biggest loser on this site. What a complete memberhead.

mark by the sea wrote:
Funny how we see players in a different light, Calderon was the best thing since sliced bread a year or so, now we see him slightly as a weak link when playing! Great player to have in a squad, no silly transfer requests,
Any news on Vicente? Will he make the,ayers Xmas party? Lol

Good post, MBTS. I certainly smiled at the Xmas party reference.

Talking of Christmas parties, I suspect Campotolox has already started his...

Hovite wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite, you have long standing as a Brighton supporter so tell me this, what would you say is the paramount need for the club with regard to our squad.

Some would say that we MUST get a striker, others want a striker/hold up player. There is also the center back issue. Should we strengthen at the back to stop goals conceded or should we go the other way and try to score more?

Does a 1-0 win not mean the same as a 2-1 win, it's three points. I am torn on this one.

We do need a strong hold up player. I've been really impressed with Fellaini this season.

He says his best position is midfield but David Moyes like to use him as a CF. Either way, strong and adaptable. Van Percie would have an impact in this team not that this is on the cards, but it is an example how one fantastic player can make all the difference.

I think we are doing well with the cards TB has been dealt, but to carry on playing the way we are and get better at it is key. Every game is a lesson for the players and it is more about the team learning from their mistakes and making the right decisions. There has been a massive improvement from last season although it doesn’t show it in the table.

If we do get one or two players in Jan, they have to be the right ones, but I think we can make the top six with what we have got if we improve as a team and take our chances in front of goal.

Great post

Hovite wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Hovite, you have long standing as a Brighton supporter so tell me this, what would you say is the paramount need for the club with regard to our squad. Some would say that we MUST get a striker, others want a striker/hold up player. There is also the center back issue. Should we strengthen at the back to stop goals conceded or should we go the other way and try to score more? Does a 1-0 win not mean the same as a 2-1 win, it's three points. I am torn on this one.

We do need a strong hold up player. I've been really impressed with Fellaini this season. He says his best position is midfield but David Moyes like to use him as a CF. Either way, strong and adaptable. Van Percie would have an impact in this team not that this is on the cards, but it is an example how one fantastic player can make all the difference. I think we are doing well with the cards TB has been dealt, but to carry on playing the way we are and get better at it is key. Every game is a lesson for the players and it is more about the team learning from their mistakes and making the right decisions. There has been a massive improvement from last season although it doesn’t show it in the table. If we do get one or two players in Jan, they have to be the right ones, but I think we can make the top six with what we have got if we improve as a team and take our chances in front of goal.

For the most part we are on the same page Hovite.

I would hope that we go for a hold up/striker rather than a all out striker. My thinking is that with a H UP striker he should be able to bring CMS into the game more, others too, where as a all out striker would, just as CMS does, rely on the service he gets.

So now I am down to a H UP striker or a center back, I am going for the H UP striker. We have a good back line, and in Calde we have a good replacement and when Dunk is on his game he too is respectable cover. Most teams can only manage to get one by us, rarely do we concede two or more, if would could only score one goal more per game other than we are right now, we would be champions.

Perfect world, one hold up striker, one center back and one younger all out striker. I like our squad for this year, I would replace some but only because they seem not to be able to force themselves into the team, competition for places increases the performance of the squad as a whole but you have to be good enough to take your chance.

Top six with what we have, maybe, if injuries don't take their toll and we get consitent with converting our chances.
Can our existing top 18 players take enough points off those above us now and those just behind us, a top six
placing would require us to do so. I'll stick with maybe.

mark by the sea wrote:
I see Forster caskey can't make the starting 11 for Oxford, funny how every time we lose a game, the clamour for his returns comes out on here,
Will he make it at this level? Not sure, looking at the players who have come through, Robinson, Fraser, and ELphick all struggling once away from here.

Thank you mark,the same thing i pointed out yesterday on the LuaLua post.Like im sure you know mark some men get payed to drive up & down the country & watch these players,and the word soon gets around.Sad Poyet can only go & watch his own son at Charlton all the time like he said on the radio sat night."Im there so much they think im part of the club."Sorry Gus we pay you.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Rib problems could be the cause for the turning of his back when jumping, offers protection to that area.

Calde, as other have rightly said, a perfect pro.

JFC, probably needs to come home to continue his education, maybe, with all due respect to Oxford, it was a step too low for him. The lad can only play the system that Oxford adopt and if that is a tad route one then he will not progress.

Plz Vegasseagull don't you go mad also.When JFC went to Oxford Poyet pointed out at the time he was going to Oxford because of the System they played.Thats on record.When Albion were playing away at Leicester back in Oct i went to the Crawley v MKD game.There was loads of guys there working for clubs.I pointed out more than once Lewis Dunk was not in our first team at the time,so why not take him on loan for a mth.His the same as that Elphick lad you had,little or know pace & can't control the ball.I think thats the same words Poyet used about him to the press after the palace game.Liverpool won't pay Anton Rodgers free money to keep his dad happy,so why do Brighton?We had a 38 man squad on the back of the palace programme,thats without Vicente & Rodgers for some reason.We don't need 40 players on the wage bill we are not MUFC or Chelsea.Its to much money to be paying guys that will never play for the first team.

FreeLoader.
I must be wrong but I thought JFC chose Oxford, didn't he have another option and Gus left it up to the lad to decide?

Yes thats correct my friend.But Gus thought Oxford played the better system for him at the time.He said they are good passing side,and play the way we like.

Ok got it now, thanks

A team such as Oxford may, 'try,' to play passing football but that doesn't mean that they have the players to pull it off.
To be honest I would be very surprised had Gus come out and said that the lad was aiming too low by going to Oxford.
The kid looked quite usefull when he got his chance with us, perhaps he needs better players around him to bring the best out of him. I only say this as I can't think that the lad has lost his skills in the few months he has been out on loan. Good players can be dragged down just as some not so good can improve when playing with better players.

Time will tell.

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