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Vicente a step closer to return
5:00pm Wednesday 9th January 2013 in Sport By Andy Naylor
Vicente trains with Albion's first team yesterday. Picture courtesy of Paul Hazlewood
Vicente has moved a stage closer to his Albion comeback.
The Spanish playmaker resumed training with the first team squad yesterday.
Depending on how he reacts he could be in contention for a place on the bench against Derby County at The Amex on Saturday.
Manager Gus Poyet revealed to The Argus: “He trained with us for the first time after training all last week with the development squad.
“He looked all right, normal. I don’t know how his body is going to react. As you can imagine, the intensity of training with the kids is totally different to the intensity with us.
“Tuesday is usually a very hard day so we changed it slightly because of him. The first part was nice and steady, the last part quite hard, so he is going to feel it for sure. We’ll see how he reacts.”
Thigh trouble has restricted Vicente to one brief Championship appearance as a substitute so far this season, against Cardiff back in August.
Comments(62)
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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5:14pm Wed 9 Jan 13
graham w
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5:14pm Wed 9 Jan 13
OzzieGull
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5:24pm Wed 9 Jan 13
saraman
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5:28pm Wed 9 Jan 13
OzzieGull wrote:Aint that the truth.
The expression "deja vu" really should be Spanish ....
golddene
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5:38pm Wed 9 Jan 13
northstand4
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5:39pm Wed 9 Jan 13
jockithenoo
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5:40pm Wed 9 Jan 13
I really want to see this star perform and make a charge to the premier league.
Ooops ! ! ! I'm a dreamer.
northstand4
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5:40pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Hovite
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5:44pm Wed 9 Jan 13
wiltshire seagull
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5:44pm Wed 9 Jan 13
UTA (with or without Vicente).
mikeygit
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5:50pm Wed 9 Jan 13
comments---would be good IF he made it back to the 1st Team---but for how long.
On a more positive note- just read on Sky Sports that Hughton does not envisage much movement at Norwich this January---so maybe he will leave our players alone??
VegasSeagull
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5:51pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Hovite wrote:Do you think he still has his boots, just a thought.
Gus was the typical big target man and he knows exactly what he needs. If the right one isn't available we can wait.
Good news about Vicente, let's hope he can remain fit and well for the rest of the season. I just hope that he does not become the target of some big hairy butt defender.
Ringmer Rich
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5:58pm Wed 9 Jan 13
golddene wrote:and so say all of us!!
Great news for the club and Viccy. I really hope any reaction to the intense training is short lived and he can resume his playing career with us, deep thigh injuries can be very difficult to heal so fingers crossed that we have back before too long the finest footballer that i have ever seen in the stripes.
namgo49
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6:02pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Alfie T
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6:03pm Wed 9 Jan 13
MHubbs
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6:10pm Wed 9 Jan 13
His injury is non specific as are his whereabouts for the last four months, as is his progress, or lack of.
Like many, I am sure, I doubt that his absence has been due to injury at all?
This, his inclusion is academic to the team IMO. His desire to play is not evident and so to lay any hope of his lifting the team to new heights is both unfounded and unwarranted as far as I can see.
If he does return, great, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. We have heard all this before. We have other more reading needs in the team than our so called play makers return!
Alan G Skinner
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6:14pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Far gull
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6:17pm Wed 9 Jan 13
I have no idea what striker we may or may not get in but gus track record indicates either a surprise or no one.
Vicente back would beat most signings unless Drogba and that not likely and he is the best lone striker i have ever seen in fact about the only one i have seen make it truely work.
VegasSeagull
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6:20pm Wed 9 Jan 13
MHubbs wrote:'His injury has been non-specific,' really?
The plain truth is that we have been fed a whole load of chicken feed on this story. His injury is non specific as are his whereabouts for the last four months, as is his progress, or lack of. Like many, I am sure, I doubt that his absence has been due to injury at all? This, his inclusion is academic to the team IMO. His desire to play is not evident and so to lay any hope of his lifting the team to new heights is both unfounded and unwarranted as far as I can see. If he does return, great, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. We have heard all this before. We have other more reading needs in the team than our so called play makers return!
'His whereabouts for the last four months have not been specific, really?
You doubt that he has really been injured, really?
'His inclusion back into the team is academic,really?
'Any hope of him lifting the team is unfounded, really?
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VegasSeagull
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6:28pm Wed 9 Jan 13
MHubbs wrote:The words of a truly devoted Brighton supporter.
The plain truth is that we have been fed a whole load of chicken feed on this story. His injury is non specific as are his whereabouts for the last four months, as is his progress, or lack of. Like many, I am sure, I doubt that his absence has been due to injury at all? This, his inclusion is academic to the team IMO. His desire to play is not evident and so to lay any hope of his lifting the team to new heights is both unfounded and unwarranted as far as I can see. If he does return, great, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. We have heard all this before. We have other more reading needs in the team than our so called play makers return!
Far gull
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6:28pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Alfie T
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6:30pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Grendel
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6:42pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Bucket feet Duffy
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6:47pm Wed 9 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:And so say all of us ! Well me anyway
MHubbs wrote:'His injury has been non-specific,' really?
The plain truth is that we have been fed a whole load of chicken feed on this story. His injury is non specific as are his whereabouts for the last four months, as is his progress, or lack of. Like many, I am sure, I doubt that his absence has been due to injury at all? This, his inclusion is academic to the team IMO. His desire to play is not evident and so to lay any hope of his lifting the team to new heights is both unfounded and unwarranted as far as I can see. If he does return, great, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. We have heard all this before. We have other more reading needs in the team than our so called play makers return!
'His whereabouts for the last four months have not been specific, really?
You doubt that he has really been injured, really?
'His inclusion back into the team is academic,really?
'Any hope of him lifting the team is unfounded, really?
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Bucket feet Duffy
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6:49pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Alfie T wrote:On past evidence I would say the latter is correct
Amusing picture, it looks as if Hammond, Hoskins and co are to scared to tackle him in case he gets injured again, or perhaps they just can't get near him.
albionfan33
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6:51pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Far gull wrote:he dont care hes a troll hes just happy you responded
agree fully with vegas. Disagree with you mhubbs, perhaps you have no been keeping up to speed. Believe me if v does come back the lift to the team will be huge ,prepare to eat humble pie.
Hovite
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7:08pm Wed 9 Jan 13
We shall see and I am sure the truth will prevail.
Claude Back
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7:24pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Ringmer Rich wrote:Not quite.
golddene wrote:and so say all of us!!
Great news for the club and Viccy. I really hope any reaction to the intense training is short lived and he can resume his playing career with us, deep thigh injuries can be very difficult to heal so fingers crossed that we have back before too long the finest footballer that i have ever seen in the stripes.
He is good but not the best I've seen over a long time watching.
VegasSeagull
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7:39pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Alfie T
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7:43pm Wed 9 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Lawrenson?
Claude there is something missing from your reply.
golddene
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7:50pm Wed 9 Jan 13
MHubbs wrote:I have often seen Mr Vicente in the players enclosure attending home matches, have'nt you?
The plain truth is that we have been fed a whole load of chicken feed on this story.
His injury is non specific as are his whereabouts for the last four months, as is his progress, or lack of.
Like many, I am sure, I doubt that his absence has been due to injury at all?
This, his inclusion is academic to the team IMO. His desire to play is not evident and so to lay any hope of his lifting the team to new heights is both unfounded and unwarranted as far as I can see.
If he does return, great, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. We have heard all this before. We have other more reading needs in the team than our so called play makers return!
LeKevo
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7:58pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Perhaps pie in the sky but football is a simple game and i believe we are very, very close to achieving our dream.
hannover seagull
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8:02pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Gus has always stated he is injured with a thigh strain and stated often he is in re-hab.
The nature of his injury is a strain to the quadriceps muscle which is the big one on top of your thigh which regulates the extention of the knee
However, this muscle group(as the name suggests) is split into four, tears in muscle fibre range in severity from minor to full rupture and rest and no sport activity along with cold presses is the long way back to recovery.
Little wonder he has not been seen training.
I trust the medical staff we have to give him back to us in good shape when the time is right and it looks like soon.
UTA.................
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golddene
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8:06pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Claude Back wrote:Sorry Claud B, I have only been going since 1972 so a bit of a "Johnny come lately" I respect you're opinion, but i only offered mine and I did Qualify that with "that I have seen" but he is very good is'nt he SEAGULLS.
Ringmer Rich wrote:Not quite.
golddene wrote:and so say all of us!!
Great news for the club and Viccy. I really hope any reaction to the intense training is short lived and he can resume his playing career with us, deep thigh injuries can be very difficult to heal so fingers crossed that we have back before too long the finest footballer that i have ever seen in the stripes.
He is good but not the best I've seen over a long time watching.
pjwilk
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8:29pm Wed 9 Jan 13
oksouthstander
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8:31pm Wed 9 Jan 13
Best inside forward I have seen in 50 years. Totally different player to Lawro..or Barry Rees...and Peter Ward..Although Bobby Zamora would be handy right NOW alongside CMS.
tonytowner1
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8:33pm Wed 9 Jan 13
The whole "Vicente situation" has broadly from a fans and PR angle been handled poorly of course - he'll still be massively cheered by 90%+ of the home crowd of course who just look to see us win and play great football!!
Vicente, Bruno (on form), Orlandi and Lopez based on his last 2 - 3 performances - if they all played, pretty attractive for BHA fans and frightening options for the opponents
VegasSeagull
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8:41pm Wed 9 Jan 13
When the return does not happen, as quickly as we think it should, well then our superior brains get to work.
I KNEW, he didn't want to play. I KNEW, that he was angry at Brighton activating on his contract clause. I KNEW that he was in Spain getting some sun on his back. I KNEW, that we should cut him loose, get rid of the dead wood. I knew so much I am surprised my head didn't hurt, and then I started to really think about it.
Once I started to engauge my brain, before I let my fingers near my keyboard, I realised I was being dumb.
Today with brain safely in gear I look forward to his return and I can't wait to see what he brings to our team.
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Far gull
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9:20pm Wed 9 Jan 13
LeKevo wrote:Suarez good and will agree when he has done it over 10 yrs.
You know, we are all wondering about this 'target' man Gus is seeking though someone mentioned Drogba being the best lone striker he seen. Suarez does the same for Liverpool and is a 1 man scoring machine at a mere 5'10''. CMS is probably faster with less technical ability so if and when our lost Spaniard returns then lets hope he can pull the strings and punish with our superiority. Our strength is football, we have pacey technically gifted wide men who perhaps need to lift their heads and pick the ball as opposed to hitting the 6yd box and of course more bodies hitting the areas these balls enter.
Perhaps pie in the sky but football is a simple game and i believe we are very, very close to achieving our dream.
Alfie T
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10:16pm Wed 9 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Hope it's not a false dawn, he needs to be 100% fit and up for it, this side has done well without him so far. He's a class act and I just hope when I get to the Amex on Saturday I see him on that pitch.
Very few on here have kicked off against Vicente as much as I have in the past. We the experts, and of course we are experts, we all know that when a guy gets injured he misses a few games and then comes back.
When the return does not happen, as quickly as we think it should, well then our superior brains get to work.
I KNEW, he didn't want to play. I KNEW, that he was angry at Brighton activating on his contract clause. I KNEW that he was in Spain getting some sun on his back. I KNEW, that we should cut him loose, get rid of the dead wood. I knew so much I am surprised my head didn't hurt, and then I started to really think about it.
Once I started to engauge my brain, before I let my fingers near my keyboard, I realised I was being dumb.
Today with brain safely in gear I look forward to his return and I can't wait to see what he brings to our team.
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WisdomSpeaks
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11:02pm Wed 9 Jan 13
I think Vicente will link well. With his compatriots as he might find he's more in tune with Orlandi's thinking.
For me one of the most encouraging changes recently is Gus' change of attitude. To hear him saying 'YES we can at LEAST make the playoffs' sounds so much better than 'this team is not good enough for The Premier League' and I'm sure we'll see his change of attitude reflected back to him by the players.
That's what all our genuine supporters want isn't it? It really feels as though there's been a positive shift and I'm looking forward to Saturday and hopefully back to a near full house.
VegasSeagull
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11:03pm Wed 9 Jan 13
It is my hope that he comes on when we have the game won or we are at least are winning. By the time we play our next FA Cup match he should be ready to start and finish a game, or nearly finish.
Like Lua Lua has been a very good impact sub, maybe when Vicente is fully fit he will be an impact starter, and there lies his future. With his talent he might well play a part in getting us one goal up where as Kzenga normaly finds him self fighting for a draw or trying to end a stalemate.
Baldseagull
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11:15pm Wed 9 Jan 13
My hope is that he not only stays fit to the end of the season but that he might fancy extending his stay for another season or two.
pablobrowno
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11:39pm Wed 9 Jan 13
championshipgull
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12:53am Thu 10 Jan 13
pablobrowno wrote:http://www.twtd.co.u
We are in for Jason Scotland then allegedly. On loan.
k/ipswich-town-news/
22228/wolves-and-bri
ghton-eyeing-scotlan
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Just to help out with a source.
Hovite
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1:40am Thu 10 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Fair play to you Vegas, sometimes things said can be food for the trolls, and it's hard enough on here at the best of times ;o)
Very few on here have kicked off against Vicente as much as I have in the past. We the experts, and of course we are experts, we all know that when a guy gets injured he misses a few games and then comes back.
When the return does not happen, as quickly as we think it should, well then our superior brains get to work.
I KNEW, he didn't want to play. I KNEW, that he was angry at Brighton activating on his contract clause. I KNEW that he was in Spain getting some sun on his back. I KNEW, that we should cut him loose, get rid of the dead wood. I knew so much I am surprised my head didn't hurt, and then I started to really think about it.
Once I started to engauge my brain, before I let my fingers near my keyboard, I realised I was being dumb.
Today with brain safely in gear I look forward to his return and I can't wait to see what he brings to our team.
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Anyway moving on buddy, KLL and Vicente linked up really well last year and I am looking forward to see what his return brings to the team.
Interesting times ahead whatever the outcome.
VegasSeagull
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2:03am Thu 10 Jan 13
CMS spotted at Elland Road, deal to be completed soon.
Rarely are these rumours anything more than just made up garbage but you never know.
OzzieGull
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3:52am Thu 10 Jan 13
VegasSeagull
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4:29am Thu 10 Jan 13
pablobrowno wrote:If this report is accurate I would have to wonder about it.
We are in for Jason Scotland then allegedly. On loan.
Maybe I read his stats wrong but he isn't exactly a ball of fire is he.
MHubbs
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6:22am Thu 10 Jan 13
It's easy to put hope ahead of reason, which seems predominant on this story.
Jonathan Mouette
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8:05am Thu 10 Jan 13
Jonathan Mouette
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8:10am Thu 10 Jan 13
Alfie T
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8:14am Thu 10 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Yes probably the last 20 minutes or so, he is a very different impact player to Kaz. As Baldseagul says with the ball at his feet he is poetry in motion,great balance and ball retention, and his ability to play the reverse pass is too good for most and that includes our players.
Alfie I guess you would agree that if he takes to the field on saturday it is very unlikely that he will do 45 minutes and no chance of 90, that said now he will and make me look a bigger fool than I am.
It is my hope that he comes on when we have the game won or we are at least are winning. By the time we play our next FA Cup match he should be ready to start and finish a game, or nearly finish.
Like Lua Lua has been a very good impact sub, maybe when Vicente is fully fit he will be an impact starter, and there lies his future. With his talent he might well play a part in getting us one goal up where as Kzenga normaly finds him self fighting for a draw or trying to end a stalemate.
franckiep en france
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9:32am Thu 10 Jan 13
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dave from bexill
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9:35am Thu 10 Jan 13
wiltshire seagull
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11:48am Thu 10 Jan 13
dave from bexill wrote:A most welcome post, mate. I, as with many others above have grown tired of the Vicente saga. Your thoughts above accurately reflect what all genuine BHA fans want, of course. A fully fit (for now) Vicente is a long awaited bonus for the club. Bring it on Gus, ASAP...
Gosh, over the period I've been following this blog, I think no issue has caused as much division (apart from the stupid trolls etc) as that of Vicentes injuries. Mostly, it's clear that this is because of the frustration of having such a gifted player missing for most of the period he's been with us. I'm not one of those who's ever thought he's been pulling a fast one in order to get away, or even that he doesn't want to play for us. If he's that unhappy, and the problems that itself would cause in the dressing room etc, then I think Gus would have got rid. Gus isn't stupid and I believe him to be an honourable man who would not want to keep an unhappy player for whom he obviously has so much respect.I hope Vicente is close to a level of fitness which enables him to play an active part in our push to the playoffs, though I doubt he'll ever get fully fit at this stage of his career. However, as others have said, the thought of his appearing alongside the other technically gifted and exciting players we have at the club is truly mouth watering.Bring it on.
UTA
wiltshire seagull
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11:48am Thu 10 Jan 13
dave from bexill wrote:A most welcome post, mate. I, as with many others above have grown tired of the Vicente saga. Your thoughts above accurately reflect what all genuine BHA fans want, of course. A fully fit (for now) Vicente is a long awaited bonus for the club. Bring it on Gus, ASAP...
Gosh, over the period I've been following this blog, I think no issue has caused as much division (apart from the stupid trolls etc) as that of Vicentes injuries. Mostly, it's clear that this is because of the frustration of having such a gifted player missing for most of the period he's been with us. I'm not one of those who's ever thought he's been pulling a fast one in order to get away, or even that he doesn't want to play for us. If he's that unhappy, and the problems that itself would cause in the dressing room etc, then I think Gus would have got rid. Gus isn't stupid and I believe him to be an honourable man who would not want to keep an unhappy player for whom he obviously has so much respect.I hope Vicente is close to a level of fitness which enables him to play an active part in our push to the playoffs, though I doubt he'll ever get fully fit at this stage of his career. However, as others have said, the thought of his appearing alongside the other technically gifted and exciting players we have at the club is truly mouth watering.Bring it on.
UTA
Good Ol' Hemz by the Sea
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1:32pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Ringmer Rich wrote:I agree, for I have only been watching the Albion a mere 20 years (due to my age) he is certainly the most gifted player I've seen.
golddene wrote:and so say all of us!!
Great news for the club and Viccy. I really hope any reaction to the intense training is short lived and he can resume his playing career with us, deep thigh injuries can be very difficult to heal so fingers crossed that we have back before too long the finest footballer that i have ever seen in the stripes.
Still falls some way short in his status as a club hero behind Bobby though! Maybe if he a gave a us a full few seasons that would change...
tinker111
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5:42pm Thu 10 Jan 13
graham w wrote:Is that the oil (OLAY) he need rubbing in ????? for porely thingy.
ola, and olay..
Think Oatway should leave comments to Gus who can weave a fairy story of his own?? comments please
VegasSeagull
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7:06pm Thu 10 Jan 13
tinker111 wrote:I would comment but I am not sure what you are saying, explanation please.
graham w wrote: ola, and olay..Is that the oil (OLAY) he need rubbing in ????? for porely thingy. Think Oatway should leave comments to Gus who can weave a fairy story of his own?? comments please
golddene
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7:51pm Thu 10 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Another troll, please humour him/her
tinker111 wrote:I would comment but I am not sure what you are saying, explanation please.
graham w wrote: ola, and olay..Is that the oil (OLAY) he need rubbing in ????? for porely thingy. Think Oatway should leave comments to Gus who can weave a fairy story of his own?? comments please
saraman says...
5:09pm Wed 9 Jan 13