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Calderon relieved to be back in defence

The Argus: Inigo Calderon made his comeback against Derby Inigo Calderon made his comeback against Derby

INIGO Calderon is relieved to be back in the Albion team after a cruel injury.

A knee problem for the Seagulls’ second choice right-back coincided with Achilles trouble for first choice Bruno.

Fellow Spaniard David filled in but was pushed back into midfield as Calderon made his comeback and helped set up both goals in the 2-1 home win against Derby County.

He said: “It was a pity. I couldn’t play because of the knee injury when I knew I had a chance to play.

“It wasn’t the best time to be injured but you can’t do anything about it and just have to wait for your chance.’”

Albion are now eighth, within a win of the play-offs with a game in hand over most of their rivals.

Six teams are split by five points in a congested race led by Watford, currently occupying the final play-off spot.

Calderon said: “Everybody can beat everybody. I think it is one of the most competitive divisions in Europe.

“In the Premier League and La Liga there are are two, three or four teams always winning, but not in the Championship.”

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12:39pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Alfie T says...

Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.
Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost. Alfie T
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12:42pm Mon 14 Jan 13

mark by the sea says...

Alfie T wrote:
Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.
Think he went in noticed Saturday, involved time and again going forward, will be interesting with ulloa wanting crosses , will calde or Bruno be the best delivery? How lucky we are after so many average players were on the name sheet week in week out only a few years ago,
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.[/p][/quote]Think he went in noticed Saturday, involved time and again going forward, will be interesting with ulloa wanting crosses , will calde or Bruno be the best delivery? How lucky we are after so many average players were on the name sheet week in week out only a few years ago, mark by the sea
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1:19pm Mon 14 Jan 13

wiseman of hove says...

Alfie T wrote:
Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.
Entirely agree.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.[/p][/quote]Entirely agree. wiseman of hove
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1:22pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Bish May Turn says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Alfie T wrote: Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.
Think he went in noticed Saturday, involved time and again going forward, will be interesting with ulloa wanting crosses , will calde or Bruno be the best delivery? How lucky we are after so many average players were on the name sheet week in week out only a few years ago,
Agree with Alfie on this, love watching Bruno,but his last few performances were poor, perhaps not fully fit, Calde is very reliable and a top professional. And yes Mark we are very lucky to have a developing squad with talent in all areas.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.[/p][/quote]Think he went in noticed Saturday, involved time and again going forward, will be interesting with ulloa wanting crosses , will calde or Bruno be the best delivery? How lucky we are after so many average players were on the name sheet week in week out only a few years ago,[/p][/quote]Agree with Alfie on this, love watching Bruno,but his last few performances were poor, perhaps not fully fit, Calde is very reliable and a top professional. And yes Mark we are very lucky to have a developing squad with talent in all areas. Bish May Turn
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1:29pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Bob! says...

Bish May Turn wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Alfie T wrote: Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.
Think he went in noticed Saturday, involved time and again going forward, will be interesting with ulloa wanting crosses , will calde or Bruno be the best delivery? How lucky we are after so many average players were on the name sheet week in week out only a few years ago,
Agree with Alfie on this, love watching Bruno,but his last few performances were poor, perhaps not fully fit, Calde is very reliable and a top professional. And yes Mark we are very lucky to have a developing squad with talent in all areas.
Calde is the better crosser of the 2, However, Bruno works so much better with Buckley.
...and Buckley running at sides adds a different dimension to our play.
[quote][p][bold]Bish May Turn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.[/p][/quote]Think he went in noticed Saturday, involved time and again going forward, will be interesting with ulloa wanting crosses , will calde or Bruno be the best delivery? How lucky we are after so many average players were on the name sheet week in week out only a few years ago,[/p][/quote]Agree with Alfie on this, love watching Bruno,but his last few performances were poor, perhaps not fully fit, Calde is very reliable and a top professional. And yes Mark we are very lucky to have a developing squad with talent in all areas.[/p][/quote]Calde is the better crosser of the 2, However, Bruno works so much better with Buckley. ...and Buckley running at sides adds a different dimension to our play. Bob!
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1:37pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Poplar Seagull says...

Agree with the posts on here, thought Calderon was great on Saturday, and was as ever fully committed. There was a point in the 2nd half where Lopez under-hit a pass to Calderon, but just as a Derby player was closing in Calde flung himself at the ball to get his head on to it to clear. It was very brave and was typical Calde – I’m not sure Bruno would have been as committed.

I know Bruno gets a lot of praise for his forward play, but we mustn’t forget that Calderon is just as good at getting forward and he is a better goal scorer.
Agree with the posts on here, thought Calderon was great on Saturday, and was as ever fully committed. There was a point in the 2nd half where Lopez under-hit a pass to Calderon, but just as a Derby player was closing in Calde flung himself at the ball to get his head on to it to clear. It was very brave and was typical Calde – I’m not sure Bruno would have been as committed. I know Bruno gets a lot of praise for his forward play, but we mustn’t forget that Calderon is just as good at getting forward and he is a better goal scorer. Poplar Seagull
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2:08pm Mon 14 Jan 13

IKnowNowt says...

Bob! wrote:
Bish May Turn wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Alfie T wrote: Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.
Think he went in noticed Saturday, involved time and again going forward, will be interesting with ulloa wanting crosses , will calde or Bruno be the best delivery? How lucky we are after so many average players were on the name sheet week in week out only a few years ago,
Agree with Alfie on this, love watching Bruno,but his last few performances were poor, perhaps not fully fit, Calde is very reliable and a top professional. And yes Mark we are very lucky to have a developing squad with talent in all areas.
Calde is the better crosser of the 2, However, Bruno works so much better with Buckley.
...and Buckley running at sides adds a different dimension to our play.
I think we are lucky to have both reliable right backs in our armoury. They each bring different things to the party and I enjoy watching them both, I am really glad IC has stepped up especially considering the game time he missed last season due to Jara Reyes.
I think BS has better skill with the ball at his feet and slightly more pace to make up for his less committed defending but both players are capable of the killer cross.
[quote][p][bold]Bob![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bish May Turn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.[/p][/quote]Think he went in noticed Saturday, involved time and again going forward, will be interesting with ulloa wanting crosses , will calde or Bruno be the best delivery? How lucky we are after so many average players were on the name sheet week in week out only a few years ago,[/p][/quote]Agree with Alfie on this, love watching Bruno,but his last few performances were poor, perhaps not fully fit, Calde is very reliable and a top professional. And yes Mark we are very lucky to have a developing squad with talent in all areas.[/p][/quote]Calde is the better crosser of the 2, However, Bruno works so much better with Buckley. ...and Buckley running at sides adds a different dimension to our play.[/p][/quote]I think we are lucky to have both reliable right backs in our armoury. They each bring different things to the party and I enjoy watching them both, I am really glad IC has stepped up especially considering the game time he missed last season due to Jara Reyes. I think BS has better skill with the ball at his feet and slightly more pace to make up for his less committed defending but both players are capable of the killer cross. IKnowNowt
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3:02pm Mon 14 Jan 13

fratsomrover says...

Agree with everything said, Inigo is a great asset and I love watching him play. Great at stopping crosses, flings his body in the way of shots, delivers great crosses and passes to the forwards and of course, scores goals (can still see that drive bending around David James into the top corner) Hard to justify leaving him out really !!
Agree with everything said, Inigo is a great asset and I love watching him play. Great at stopping crosses, flings his body in the way of shots, delivers great crosses and passes to the forwards and of course, scores goals (can still see that drive bending around David James into the top corner) Hard to justify leaving him out really !! fratsomrover
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3:06pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Perseus says...

When one of the near post headers goes in ..... I wonder of he scores in training?
When one of the near post headers goes in ..... I wonder of he scores in training? Perseus
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3:23pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Howie2 says...

I think we will need Inigo for quite some time and hope we can keep him fit. Achilles injuries are notoriously slow to fully heal. Just like the hamstring if you come back too soon, as Bruno did you go out again for longer.
I think we will need Inigo for quite some time and hope we can keep him fit. Achilles injuries are notoriously slow to fully heal. Just like the hamstring if you come back too soon, as Bruno did you go out again for longer. Howie2
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3:35pm Mon 14 Jan 13

wiseman of hove says...

Poplar Seagull wrote:
Agree with the posts on here, thought Calderon was great on Saturday, and was as ever fully committed. There was a point in the 2nd half where Lopez under-hit a pass to Calderon, but just as a Derby player was closing in Calde flung himself at the ball to get his head on to it to clear. It was very brave and was typical Calde – I’m not sure Bruno would have been as committed.

I know Bruno gets a lot of praise for his forward play, but we mustn’t forget that Calderon is just as good at getting forward and he is a better goal scorer.
I was in line with that headed intervention you have highlighted. It was one of the bravest headers I have seen and spoke volumes for his commitment to this club.
[quote][p][bold]Poplar Seagull[/bold] wrote: Agree with the posts on here, thought Calderon was great on Saturday, and was as ever fully committed. There was a point in the 2nd half where Lopez under-hit a pass to Calderon, but just as a Derby player was closing in Calde flung himself at the ball to get his head on to it to clear. It was very brave and was typical Calde – I’m not sure Bruno would have been as committed. I know Bruno gets a lot of praise for his forward play, but we mustn’t forget that Calderon is just as good at getting forward and he is a better goal scorer.[/p][/quote]I was in line with that headed intervention you have highlighted. It was one of the bravest headers I have seen and spoke volumes for his commitment to this club. wiseman of hove
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3:57pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Seagull83 says...

Calde must be first choice on merit at the moment.
Calde must be first choice on merit at the moment. Seagull83
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4:04pm Mon 14 Jan 13

bruce beckett says...

Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa.

But one thing is puzzling me.

Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level.

Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us?

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.
Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa. But one thing is puzzling me. Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level. Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us? I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been. bruce beckett
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4:15pm Mon 14 Jan 13

mark by the sea says...

bruce beckett wrote:
Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa.

But one thing is puzzling me.

Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level.

Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us?

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.
No tricks missed, woods is probably on 25k a week, they and Cardiff are buying promotion.. Or they think it can be done. Brighton won't pay him that on a three year deal, perhaps Gus can see a premiership player in ulloa? Lets hope so, 1.5 million plus extras on performances, and a sell on clause.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa. But one thing is puzzling me. Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level. Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us? I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.[/p][/quote]No tricks missed, woods is probably on 25k a week, they and Cardiff are buying promotion.. Or they think it can be done. Brighton won't pay him that on a three year deal, perhaps Gus can see a premiership player in ulloa? Lets hope so, 1.5 million plus extras on performances, and a sell on clause. mark by the sea
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4:17pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Alfie T says...

bruce beckett wrote:
Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa.

But one thing is puzzling me.

Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level.

Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us?

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.
Good point Bruce, Wood went for 1.5 mill? Has gone some way to repaying that already. Ulloa must be very highly rated but untested, will be interesting.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa. But one thing is puzzling me. Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level. Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us? I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.[/p][/quote]Good point Bruce, Wood went for 1.5 mill? Has gone some way to repaying that already. Ulloa must be very highly rated but untested, will be interesting. Alfie T
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4:19pm Mon 14 Jan 13

WestStander17 says...

Agree with all comments about our 2 great right-backs. It is because of Calderon's loyalty and commitment we are able to be in that position though. Others would have complained about not playing and been disruptive. Calde just gets on with it and waits for his chance like a true pro. This shows why he is chosen to fill in as captain too with Greer is unavailable.
Although he missed the target with his header on Saturday, Calderon has an amazing knack of getting free from his marker at attacking set pieces. He always seems to get free so always worth an outside bet for 1st goal scorer when he plays!
Agree with all comments about our 2 great right-backs. It is because of Calderon's loyalty and commitment we are able to be in that position though. Others would have complained about not playing and been disruptive. Calde just gets on with it and waits for his chance like a true pro. This shows why he is chosen to fill in as captain too with Greer is unavailable. Although he missed the target with his header on Saturday, Calderon has an amazing knack of getting free from his marker at attacking set pieces. He always seems to get free so always worth an outside bet for 1st goal scorer when he plays! WestStander17
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4:21pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Far gull says...

bruce beckett wrote:
Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa.

But one thing is puzzling me.

Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level.

Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us?

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.
Yes have to agree ref ,wood . Does seem odd perhaps he was approached but did not want to come to us for any number of reasons. Especially in light of Gus's comments praising Wood's on sky sports show on sunday morning.
Lets hope we are saying hello ,ulloa soon and he is comparable to that comedy hit which was a blinding success.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa. But one thing is puzzling me. Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level. Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us? I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.[/p][/quote]Yes have to agree ref ,wood . Does seem odd perhaps he was approached but did not want to come to us for any number of reasons. Especially in light of Gus's comments praising Wood's on sky sports show on sunday morning. Lets hope we are saying hello ,ulloa soon and he is comparable to that comedy hit which was a blinding success. Far gull
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4:26pm Mon 14 Jan 13

IKnowNowt says...

bruce beckett wrote:
Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa.

But one thing is puzzling me.

Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level.

Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us?

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.
I know CW is on fire and scoring for fun at the moment but if WBA were confident of him making the step up to the prem, he would be starting for them. Maybe Ulloa has been sourced with an eye to the future, especially as the vast majority of players we have bought in, and those borrowed on loan have struggled to fit into our system of play.
I think CW will have the chance in top tier soon, but I'm not sure he would have suited us.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa. But one thing is puzzling me. Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level. Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us? I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.[/p][/quote]I know CW is on fire and scoring for fun at the moment but if WBA were confident of him making the step up to the prem, he would be starting for them. Maybe Ulloa has been sourced with an eye to the future, especially as the vast majority of players we have bought in, and those borrowed on loan have struggled to fit into our system of play. I think CW will have the chance in top tier soon, but I'm not sure he would have suited us. IKnowNowt
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4:30pm Mon 14 Jan 13

bruce beckett says...

No tricks missed, woods is probably on 25k a week.

Can't imagine Ulloa will be coming here from Spain for much less, Mark. Isn't that the same amount that Murray wanted?
No tricks missed, woods is probably on 25k a week. Can't imagine Ulloa will be coming here from Spain for much less, Mark. Isn't that the same amount that Murray wanted? bruce beckett
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4:38pm Mon 14 Jan 13

mark by the sea says...

bruce beckett wrote:
No tricks missed, woods is probably on 25k a week.

Can't imagine Ulloa will be coming here from Spain for much less, Mark. Isn't that the same amount that Murray wanted?
Don't Murray wanted 11 grand a week. Settled for 9 at palace. Would have stayed here for that. I don't think wood is ever going to be a premiership player, who knows with ulloa? Lets hope he settles in or Gus will have some egg on his face.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: No tricks missed, woods is probably on 25k a week. Can't imagine Ulloa will be coming here from Spain for much less, Mark. Isn't that the same amount that Murray wanted?[/p][/quote]Don't Murray wanted 11 grand a week. Settled for 9 at palace. Would have stayed here for that. I don't think wood is ever going to be a premiership player, who knows with ulloa? Lets hope he settles in or Gus will have some egg on his face. mark by the sea
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4:48pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Far gull wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa.

But one thing is puzzling me.

Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level.

Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us?

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.
Yes have to agree ref ,wood . Does seem odd perhaps he was approached but did not want to come to us for any number of reasons. Especially in light of Gus's comments praising Wood's on sky sports show on sunday morning.
Lets hope we are saying hello ,ulloa soon and he is comparable to that comedy hit which was a blinding success.
Wood's loan to us was part of his WBA apprenticeship and training etc. Keeping him wasn’t an option, it was just for his benefit to gain work experience with different clubs. He wasn’t one that got away.

He turned out great though, and you have got to give WBA a lot of credit for looking after him and placing him with the right clubs.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa. But one thing is puzzling me. Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level. Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us? I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.[/p][/quote]Yes have to agree ref ,wood . Does seem odd perhaps he was approached but did not want to come to us for any number of reasons. Especially in light of Gus's comments praising Wood's on sky sports show on sunday morning. Lets hope we are saying hello ,ulloa soon and he is comparable to that comedy hit which was a blinding success.[/p][/quote]Wood's loan to us was part of his WBA apprenticeship and training etc. Keeping him wasn’t an option, it was just for his benefit to gain work experience with different clubs. He wasn’t one that got away. He turned out great though, and you have got to give WBA a lot of credit for looking after him and placing him with the right clubs. Hovite
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5:01pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Hovite says...

bruce beckett wrote:
No tricks missed, woods is probably on 25k a week.

Can't imagine Ulloa will be coming here from Spain for much less, Mark. Isn't that the same amount that Murray wanted?
CP offered Murray £11k a week and we offered £7k, but Murray would have taken £9k to stay.

The club would have rather Murray earn an extra £100k than earn less with us even if we gave him the £9k. It was in his best interest to let him go.

His jump of earnings went from £4k to £11k, which was a lot of money for a player from league one.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: No tricks missed, woods is probably on 25k a week. Can't imagine Ulloa will be coming here from Spain for much less, Mark. Isn't that the same amount that Murray wanted?[/p][/quote]CP offered Murray £11k a week and we offered £7k, but Murray would have taken £9k to stay. The club would have rather Murray earn an extra £100k than earn less with us even if we gave him the £9k. It was in his best interest to let him go. His jump of earnings went from £4k to £11k, which was a lot of money for a player from league one. Hovite
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5:17pm Mon 14 Jan 13

tug509 says...

Love Inigo`s work rate,his skill at the back when under pressure,he`s good eye for a pass or a cross,he`s all round professionalism,but more than anything,the way he shows he`s commitment and love for our great club. UTA
Love Inigo`s work rate,his skill at the back when under pressure,he`s good eye for a pass or a cross,he`s all round professionalism,but more than anything,the way he shows he`s commitment and love for our great club. UTA tug509
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5:23pm Mon 14 Jan 13

dave from bexill says...

Slight change of subject, but hopefully of interest to all. Another piece by Paul Barber on the BBC sports page regarding Financial Fair Play Mr Barber is certainly trying to educate the fans about the situation and puts things into perspective I think
Slight change of subject, but hopefully of interest to all. Another piece by Paul Barber on the BBC sports page regarding Financial Fair Play Mr Barber is certainly trying to educate the fans about the situation and puts things into perspective I think dave from bexill
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5:30pm Mon 14 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

So good to see our players recovering from injury, I can't wait for the day to come when we have them all back fit and well.

I have been looking at our top 18 or so players and I am wondering how Gus might line them up if we ever went to starting with two out and out strikers.

This might sound crazy but I think having two strikers start the match would weaken us.

With a match fit Vicente available one would have to think he would start in midfield. Bridcutt is nailed on to start. I would also have to think Orlandi and Buckley would also start. To my way of thinking that would leave us weak in terms of defensive play but very strong going forward, could we get away with that?

I suppose it might work if CMS was one of the two strikers due to the fact that he is so quick to get back and help out.

Any thoughts?
So good to see our players recovering from injury, I can't wait for the day to come when we have them all back fit and well. I have been looking at our top 18 or so players and I am wondering how Gus might line them up if we ever went to starting with two out and out strikers. This might sound crazy but I think having two strikers start the match would weaken us. With a match fit Vicente available one would have to think he would start in midfield. Bridcutt is nailed on to start. I would also have to think Orlandi and Buckley would also start. To my way of thinking that would leave us weak in terms of defensive play but very strong going forward, could we get away with that? I suppose it might work if CMS was one of the two strikers due to the fact that he is so quick to get back and help out. Any thoughts? VegasSeagull
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5:43pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Not crazy, what you add in attack you can lose in defense.

The options Gus now has is fascinating, start with CMS, finish with Leo and Hoskins?
Not crazy, what you add in attack you can lose in defense. The options Gus now has is fascinating, start with CMS, finish with Leo and Hoskins? Hovite
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5:55pm Mon 14 Jan 13

dave from bexill says...

I agree Vegas. Even with an extra striker coming in, there is no suggestion that Gus would want to play 442. Doesn't seem to fit the modern game even in the Uk anymore.It's so much a squad game now that Someone coming on after an hour or so is as important as the actual starting eleven and I guess players are educated to understand this. Of course there are always players who will be seen as 'a shoe in' eg Bridcutt and Kuszack but Gus and his team must spend so much time studying the oppositions style, strengths and weaknesses so as to select certain players depending on each situation. Having a fully fit squad is going to be really interesting and no doubtthe subject of much discourse and argument on here Brilliant times
I agree Vegas. Even with an extra striker coming in, there is no suggestion that Gus would want to play 442. Doesn't seem to fit the modern game even in the Uk anymore.It's so much a squad game now that Someone coming on after an hour or so is as important as the actual starting eleven and I guess players are educated to understand this. Of course there are always players who will be seen as 'a shoe in' eg Bridcutt and Kuszack but Gus and his team must spend so much time studying the oppositions style, strengths and weaknesses so as to select certain players depending on each situation. Having a fully fit squad is going to be really interesting and no doubtthe subject of much discourse and argument on here Brilliant times dave from bexill
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5:58pm Mon 14 Jan 13

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
So good to see our players recovering from injury, I can't wait for the day to come when we have them all back fit and well.

I have been looking at our top 18 or so players and I am wondering how Gus might line them up if we ever went to starting with two out and out strikers.

This might sound crazy but I think having two strikers start the match would weaken us.

With a match fit Vicente available one would have to think he would start in midfield. Bridcutt is nailed on to start. I would also have to think Orlandi and Buckley would also start. To my way of thinking that would leave us weak in terms of defensive play but very strong going forward, could we get away with that?

I suppose it might work if CMS was one of the two strikers due to the fact that he is so quick to get back and help out.

Any thoughts?
I fancy cms to play behind ulloa, or in Barnes spot, sort of inside left , but joining the attacks from space between the forwards and midfield. I dare say Gus will tinker and get it right.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So good to see our players recovering from injury, I can't wait for the day to come when we have them all back fit and well. I have been looking at our top 18 or so players and I am wondering how Gus might line them up if we ever went to starting with two out and out strikers. This might sound crazy but I think having two strikers start the match would weaken us. With a match fit Vicente available one would have to think he would start in midfield. Bridcutt is nailed on to start. I would also have to think Orlandi and Buckley would also start. To my way of thinking that would leave us weak in terms of defensive play but very strong going forward, could we get away with that? I suppose it might work if CMS was one of the two strikers due to the fact that he is so quick to get back and help out. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]I fancy cms to play behind ulloa, or in Barnes spot, sort of inside left , but joining the attacks from space between the forwards and midfield. I dare say Gus will tinker and get it right. mark by the sea
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6:43pm Mon 14 Jan 13

IKnowNowt says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
So good to see our players recovering from injury, I can't wait for the day to come when we have them all back fit and well.

I have been looking at our top 18 or so players and I am wondering how Gus might line them up if we ever went to starting with two out and out strikers.

This might sound crazy but I think having two strikers start the match would weaken us.

With a match fit Vicente available one would have to think he would start in midfield. Bridcutt is nailed on to start. I would also have to think Orlandi and Buckley would also start. To my way of thinking that would leave us weak in terms of defensive play but very strong going forward, could we get away with that?

I suppose it might work if CMS was one of the two strikers due to the fact that he is so quick to get back and help out.

Any thoughts?
I fancy cms to play behind ulloa, or in Barnes spot, sort of inside left , but joining the attacks from space between the forwards and midfield. I dare say Gus will tinker and get it right.
I'm sure he will too, I suspect he has learned his lesson with changing too many things at one time, he certainly corrected his mistake quickly in our game against Millwall.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: So good to see our players recovering from injury, I can't wait for the day to come when we have them all back fit and well. I have been looking at our top 18 or so players and I am wondering how Gus might line them up if we ever went to starting with two out and out strikers. This might sound crazy but I think having two strikers start the match would weaken us. With a match fit Vicente available one would have to think he would start in midfield. Bridcutt is nailed on to start. I would also have to think Orlandi and Buckley would also start. To my way of thinking that would leave us weak in terms of defensive play but very strong going forward, could we get away with that? I suppose it might work if CMS was one of the two strikers due to the fact that he is so quick to get back and help out. Any thoughts?[/p][/quote]I fancy cms to play behind ulloa, or in Barnes spot, sort of inside left , but joining the attacks from space between the forwards and midfield. I dare say Gus will tinker and get it right.[/p][/quote]I'm sure he will too, I suspect he has learned his lesson with changing too many things at one time, he certainly corrected his mistake quickly in our game against Millwall. IKnowNowt
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6:56pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Falmer Wizard says...

The TV showings of our recent games will possibly result in Bridcutt and our goalkeeper moving on add to this the fact that Bridges is on loan and we could not afford the £90,000 a week salary means we must get into the market briskly in the summer to keep a top half of the table position next season..
The TV showings of our recent games will possibly result in Bridcutt and our goalkeeper moving on add to this the fact that Bridges is on loan and we could not afford the £90,000 a week salary means we must get into the market briskly in the summer to keep a top half of the table position next season.. Falmer Wizard
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7:01pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Bridge isn't goin to be on £90k a week ever again in his life and will have to settle for under £30k where ever he ends up.
Bridge isn't goin to be on £90k a week ever again in his life and will have to settle for under £30k where ever he ends up. Hovite
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7:05pm Mon 14 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Falmer Wizard wrote:
The TV showings of our recent games will possibly result in Bridcutt and our goalkeeper moving on add to this the fact that Bridges is on loan and we could not afford the £90,000 a week salary means we must get into the market briskly in the summer to keep a top half of the table position next season..
Top half of the table next season, you think we can get that high in our first year in the prem?
[quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: The TV showings of our recent games will possibly result in Bridcutt and our goalkeeper moving on add to this the fact that Bridges is on loan and we could not afford the £90,000 a week salary means we must get into the market briskly in the summer to keep a top half of the table position next season..[/p][/quote]Top half of the table next season, you think we can get that high in our first year in the prem? VegasSeagull
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7:21pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

Hovite wrote:
Bridge isn't goin to be on £90k a week ever again in his life and will have to settle for under £30k where ever he ends up.
Beat me to it. Silly wages but you can't blame him for getting it!

Re earlier comment from Vegas, I can't see Vicente and Orlandi starting the same game - t be one or the other (the former, assuming fitness). I see Orlandi as the Dagger's apprentice, and he's coming along nicely!
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Bridge isn't goin to be on £90k a week ever again in his life and will have to settle for under £30k where ever he ends up.[/p][/quote]Beat me to it. Silly wages but you can't blame him for getting it! Re earlier comment from Vegas, I can't see Vicente and Orlandi starting the same game - t be one or the other (the former, assuming fitness). I see Orlandi as the Dagger's apprentice, and he's coming along nicely! Old Scrote of the Amex
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7:45pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Hovite says...

I wouldn't rule out them starting together, though I suspect Vicente will be used from the bench for many games, but we will probably start with Orlandi and V in the FA Cup.
I wouldn't rule out them starting together, though I suspect Vicente will be used from the bench for many games, but we will probably start with Orlandi and V in the FA Cup. Hovite
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8:16pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Vince says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
Alfie T wrote: Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.
Entirely agree.
There isn't much to choose between them, but agree Calderon is a better defender, and less prone to making mistakes than Bruno - who has cost us a few points this season - with some dreadful passes - one of which I recall directly led to the winning goal for the opposition (Middlesborough or Birmingham/?). In the game against Leeds he gave away a needless penalty when we were 3-2 up.

Calde is a more potent threat as a goalscorer, but I can't believe he was so bad at getting into position for a free header and an almost certain third goal against Derby. I lose count of the number of times professional footballers fail to jump above the ball and head it downwards these days. Most (CMS included) seem to get underneath it and head it over the bar. Glenn Murray is one player who DOES know how to head a ball. It seems a lost art these days - the ability to hang in the air and put head to ball rather than the other way round.

I agree with other posters who think that Hoskins should have replaced Barnes after half time. At 2-0 up, Hoskins would have been fresh and raring to go. His superior control of the ball would have counted as Derby pushed up and left gaps at the back. Barnes played well, but his control let him down at the crucial moment when we had 2 on 1 situations. Again, when Gus introduced Dicker and Crofts as late substitutes, we were totally imbalanced, so that as we defended deeper and deeper, every clearance out of defence came straight back. Hoskins up front would have given us more shape, and would have enabled us to push up out of our own penalty area. Crofts was just another body in an already overcrowded penalty area! No wonder Brighton have conceded so many late goals with these tactics. I blame the over-cautiousness of the manager not the players! It tends to breed panic.
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Love Calde as a player and a professional, no showboating with him, just does his job. Bruno is great to watch getting forward, my preference is Calde, a defender first and foremost.[/p][/quote]Entirely agree.[/p][/quote]There isn't much to choose between them, but agree Calderon is a better defender, and less prone to making mistakes than Bruno - who has cost us a few points this season - with some dreadful passes - one of which I recall directly led to the winning goal for the opposition (Middlesborough or Birmingham/?). In the game against Leeds he gave away a needless penalty when we were 3-2 up. Calde is a more potent threat as a goalscorer, but I can't believe he was so bad at getting into position for a free header and an almost certain third goal against Derby. I lose count of the number of times professional footballers fail to jump above the ball and head it downwards these days. Most (CMS included) seem to get underneath it and head it over the bar. Glenn Murray is one player who DOES know how to head a ball. It seems a lost art these days - the ability to hang in the air and put head to ball rather than the other way round. I agree with other posters who think that Hoskins should have replaced Barnes after half time. At 2-0 up, Hoskins would have been fresh and raring to go. His superior control of the ball would have counted as Derby pushed up and left gaps at the back. Barnes played well, but his control let him down at the crucial moment when we had 2 on 1 situations. Again, when Gus introduced Dicker and Crofts as late substitutes, we were totally imbalanced, so that as we defended deeper and deeper, every clearance out of defence came straight back. Hoskins up front would have given us more shape, and would have enabled us to push up out of our own penalty area. Crofts was just another body in an already overcrowded penalty area! No wonder Brighton have conceded so many late goals with these tactics. I blame the over-cautiousness of the manager not the players! It tends to breed panic. Vince
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8:23pm Mon 14 Jan 13

tonytowner1 says...

We are truly blessed to have two superb right backs - especially with the injury rates we have at BHA

Last season, in 3 - 4 matches, Calde seemed slow and even a little tired - he was easily beaten by pace - yet this does not seem to have been an issue at all this year - he's hardly put a foot wrong and brings so much to the team - I reckon he must have worked on this - anyone else notice this slowness last season?

Ulloa is going to be great - it may take a little while of course (by which,. for those who are impatient, I mean more than 2 - 3 matches!!) - though it may well spark straight away - how exciting will that be!! Great for CMS too to pick up the lose balls assuming he gets himself properly and often enough in to the box
We are truly blessed to have two superb right backs - especially with the injury rates we have at BHA Last season, in 3 - 4 matches, Calde seemed slow and even a little tired - he was easily beaten by pace - yet this does not seem to have been an issue at all this year - he's hardly put a foot wrong and brings so much to the team - I reckon he must have worked on this - anyone else notice this slowness last season? Ulloa is going to be great - it may take a little while of course (by which,. for those who are impatient, I mean more than 2 - 3 matches!!) - though it may well spark straight away - how exciting will that be!! Great for CMS too to pick up the lose balls assuming he gets himself properly and often enough in to the box tonytowner1
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8:52pm Mon 14 Jan 13

the taffster says...

Alfie T wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa.

But one thing is puzzling me.

Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level.

Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us?

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.
Good point Bruce, Wood went for 1.5 mill? Has gone some way to repaying that already. Ulloa must be very highly rated but untested, will be interesting.
you havnt missed a trick.gus doesnt know what hes doing.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Delighted with the club's ambition - especially given last season's 8 mill loss - and excited by the signing of Ulloa. But one thing is puzzling me. Gus stated we were being priced out of the market in England yet if the reports are to be believed, Ulloa is costing as much as Chris Wood cost Leicester. And Wood has proven he can score goals at Championship level. Did we miss a trick here because, presumably, we could have got Wood for considerably less than 2 mill if we had struck a deal with WBA after his loan spell with us? I know hindsight is a wonderful thing - and that Gus believes Wood has improved considerably during the past year - but it strikes me that Ulloa is much more of a gamble than Wood would have been.[/p][/quote]Good point Bruce, Wood went for 1.5 mill? Has gone some way to repaying that already. Ulloa must be very highly rated but untested, will be interesting.[/p][/quote]you havnt missed a trick.gus doesnt know what hes doing. the taffster
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9:04pm Mon 14 Jan 13

mark by the sea says...

Just been thinking about the good old days at the withdean. , ! Lol
Can anyone name the last Albion 11 at the withdean?
Just been thinking about the good old days at the withdean. , ! Lol Can anyone name the last Albion 11 at the withdean? mark by the sea
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9:26pm Mon 14 Jan 13

tug509 says...

How about,

Kuszcack

Greer
El abd
Bridge
Calderon/Bruno

Bridcutt (higher than a sweeper)

Buckley
Orlandi
Lua Lua

CMS
Barnes/Ulloa/Hoskins (2 from 4)

Apart from naff off,any thoughts. UTA
How about, Kuszcack Greer El abd Bridge Calderon/Bruno Bridcutt (higher than a sweeper) Buckley Orlandi Lua Lua CMS Barnes/Ulloa/Hoskins (2 from 4) Apart from naff off,any thoughts. UTA tug509
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9:42pm Mon 14 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Hi Tug.
I am guessing that your team option is with all players being fit which begs the question, is there no place for Vicente?

I could go with it if you started Vicente and then swapped him out for Lua Lua, maybe at 60 minutes. Depending how the game was going I would also consider taking CMS out and putting Hoskins in, also at 60 minutes.

Are you thinking of playing two up front with your team selection?

Proud of myself today, I have got 6 hours work done and it's only 1.45pm.




,
Hi Tug. I am guessing that your team option is with all players being fit which begs the question, is there no place for Vicente? I could go with it if you started Vicente and then swapped him out for Lua Lua, maybe at 60 minutes. Depending how the game was going I would also consider taking CMS out and putting Hoskins in, also at 60 minutes. Are you thinking of playing two up front with your team selection? Proud of myself today, I have got 6 hours work done and it's only 1.45pm. , VegasSeagull
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10:15pm Mon 14 Jan 13

tug509 says...

Hello Vegas mate,now you slow down,dont let the heat get to you. Thanks for your kind words,i dont fall to the flu often,but when i do it sticks. Great 3 points,do ya know ,i thought that was our 6-0,we let it slip.

Your right of course,i didn`t take Vicente in count,but to be honest we havn`t seen him,if he comes out to play,and sets up the Spanish connection,we could take teams apart.

I thought a mainly British solid back 4,imho we are the best you can get. The rest of course depends on who you have got?.

I love the way Gus has us playing,but i am a meat and potatoes bloke,if the other side come to mess our game up and disrupt our passing tactics,then take avoiding actions,if they crowd the midfield,then we bypass it,if they sit deep,we put the crosses in and take as many shots as possible and hope for something anything.

IMHO we are playing at a level that worries our opponents enough to take one of these steps,not forgetting the parking the bus bit, and sometimes we just have to roll our sleeves up and slum it.

It looks like Gus wants a continental Albion (yes its looked that way for a while) but it could end up with us emulating Arsenal,not all together a bad thing i guess. Personally i think Gus and Tony are the best thing to happen to our great club for 40 years,and am more than happy to trust our Great club to Gus ,who one day we will ultimately lose because of his skills,so lets enjoy what he does for us,and be grateful. UTA
Hello Vegas mate,now you slow down,dont let the heat get to you. Thanks for your kind words,i dont fall to the flu often,but when i do it sticks. Great 3 points,do ya know ,i thought that was our 6-0,we let it slip. Your right of course,i didn`t take Vicente in count,but to be honest we havn`t seen him,if he comes out to play,and sets up the Spanish connection,we could take teams apart. I thought a mainly British solid back 4,imho we are the best you can get. The rest of course depends on who you have got?. I love the way Gus has us playing,but i am a meat and potatoes bloke,if the other side come to mess our game up and disrupt our passing tactics,then take avoiding actions,if they crowd the midfield,then we bypass it,if they sit deep,we put the crosses in and take as many shots as possible and hope for something anything. IMHO we are playing at a level that worries our opponents enough to take one of these steps,not forgetting the parking the bus bit, and sometimes we just have to roll our sleeves up and slum it. It looks like Gus wants a continental Albion (yes its looked that way for a while) but it could end up with us emulating Arsenal,not all together a bad thing i guess. Personally i think Gus and Tony are the best thing to happen to our great club for 40 years,and am more than happy to trust our Great club to Gus ,who one day we will ultimately lose because of his skills,so lets enjoy what he does for us,and be grateful. UTA tug509
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10:24pm Mon 14 Jan 13

tonytowner1 says...

tug509 wrote:
How about,

Kuszcack

Greer
El abd
Bridge
Calderon/Bruno

Bridcutt (higher than a sweeper)

Buckley
Orlandi
Lua Lua

CMS
Barnes/Ulloa/Hoskins (2 from 4)

Apart from naff off,any thoughts. UTA
All good - apart from, sad as it is, Barnes, workhorse as he is too, is not a player to get us too the Premiership ultimately, sorry

Glad to see no Hammond in your team as he's not either

The thing about Hoskins of course, apart from unproven and needs time, is very simply his pace

Similarly, we still have no idea re CMS with the right partner

Greer I occasionally wonder about?

We have some great players though - that's for sure - shame there's no Lopez showing in your list - again, often inspirational in the past few matches (and of course, Vicente, already mentioned by Vegas - hopefully he'll be match fit for the first 70 minutes in 2 - 3 weeks time)

+ of course our next, soon to be announced new star purchase!!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: How about, Kuszcack Greer El abd Bridge Calderon/Bruno Bridcutt (higher than a sweeper) Buckley Orlandi Lua Lua CMS Barnes/Ulloa/Hoskins (2 from 4) Apart from naff off,any thoughts. UTA[/p][/quote]All good - apart from, sad as it is, Barnes, workhorse as he is too, is not a player to get us too the Premiership ultimately, sorry Glad to see no Hammond in your team as he's not either The thing about Hoskins of course, apart from unproven and needs time, is very simply his pace Similarly, we still have no idea re CMS with the right partner Greer I occasionally wonder about? We have some great players though - that's for sure - shame there's no Lopez showing in your list - again, often inspirational in the past few matches (and of course, Vicente, already mentioned by Vegas - hopefully he'll be match fit for the first 70 minutes in 2 - 3 weeks time) + of course our next, soon to be announced new star purchase!! tonytowner1
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10:59pm Mon 14 Jan 13

lonegull says...

Like the line up Tug509 but would tweak as follows:

Kuszcack

Greer
El abd
Bridge
Bruno

Bridcutt

CMS - attacking right midfield
Hammond - Centre mid
Dicker - Centre mid
Vincente - attacking left midfield (as at Valencia)

Ulloa

The bench would still have players that would have been the stars of our team just a couple of years ago. How far we've come.
Like the line up Tug509 but would tweak as follows: Kuszcack Greer El abd Bridge Bruno Bridcutt CMS - attacking right midfield Hammond - Centre mid Dicker - Centre mid Vincente - attacking left midfield (as at Valencia) Ulloa The bench would still have players that would have been the stars of our team just a couple of years ago. How far we've come. lonegull
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11:04pm Mon 14 Jan 13

tug509 says...

Thanks a lot tonytowner1,

I like Barnes a lot,i think the guy gives his all for the cause,and is never missing from action. To answer your thought on a partner for CMS,its tough because we all know the boss plays one up front (at the moment) .

I think GG is the right sort of character to take charge at the back,all the best defenders of the 70s were Scotts,and imo the best place to have your captain.

I didn`t want to put (this player /that player) for every position,that wouldn`t have been a team,it would be a squad!. But with the uncertainty of our possible forwards,i had no options.?

Lopez and and Vicente are both superb lads,Vicente we have not been able to rely on,so very hard to consider in any set-up,Lopez,has proved how brilliant and adaptable he is,so he would have qualified in multiple positions in my first effort of picking a team.

Whichever way you cut it we are looking very good mate. UTA
Thanks a lot tonytowner1, I like Barnes a lot,i think the guy gives his all for the cause,and is never missing from action. To answer your thought on a partner for CMS,its tough because we all know the boss plays one up front (at the moment) . I think GG is the right sort of character to take charge at the back,all the best defenders of the 70s were Scotts,and imo the best place to have your captain. I didn`t want to put (this player /that player) for every position,that wouldn`t have been a team,it would be a squad!. But with the uncertainty of our possible forwards,i had no options.? Lopez and and Vicente are both superb lads,Vicente we have not been able to rely on,so very hard to consider in any set-up,Lopez,has proved how brilliant and adaptable he is,so he would have qualified in multiple positions in my first effort of picking a team. Whichever way you cut it we are looking very good mate. UTA tug509
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12:09am Tue 15 Jan 13

WestStander17 says...

The way a short discussion brings up so many different options proves Gus has already built a strong squad. Very difficult to name what would be a regular strongest 11.
The addition of Ulloa could be a crossroads. From what I've seen, Gus shows no real sign of changing the shape of the team. Ulloa sounds like he is a big, target man type meaning he could only play as the main striker. Without a change of shape, that moves CMS to a wider position or to the bench.
The keeper, 3 of the back 4 and Bridcutt pick themselves. Bruno and Calderon offer different options at RB. Ulloa up top, that leaves the remaining 4 positions to play about with depending on oppo and game situation.
IMHO, if Vicente is fit, he should play. In a normal situation, that probably rules out a 2nd out-and-out striker. With Ulloa wanting crosses, Buckley should play wide right. Orlandi or Lopez tucking in from the left to allow Bridge to overlap down the left.
That leaves 1 slot for what would need to be an all-action Crofts or Hammond mainly to support Bridcutt but also make bursting runs forward. Sorted! Hehe!
Leaving CMS, Barnes, Hoskins, Lua Lua etc to provide variation and cover for injuries.
Phew! Think I'll leave it with Gus!!!
The way a short discussion brings up so many different options proves Gus has already built a strong squad. Very difficult to name what would be a regular strongest 11. The addition of Ulloa could be a crossroads. From what I've seen, Gus shows no real sign of changing the shape of the team. Ulloa sounds like he is a big, target man type meaning he could only play as the main striker. Without a change of shape, that moves CMS to a wider position or to the bench. The keeper, 3 of the back 4 and Bridcutt pick themselves. Bruno and Calderon offer different options at RB. Ulloa up top, that leaves the remaining 4 positions to play about with depending on oppo and game situation. IMHO, if Vicente is fit, he should play. In a normal situation, that probably rules out a 2nd out-and-out striker. With Ulloa wanting crosses, Buckley should play wide right. Orlandi or Lopez tucking in from the left to allow Bridge to overlap down the left. That leaves 1 slot for what would need to be an all-action Crofts or Hammond mainly to support Bridcutt but also make bursting runs forward. Sorted! Hehe! Leaving CMS, Barnes, Hoskins, Lua Lua etc to provide variation and cover for injuries. Phew! Think I'll leave it with Gus!!! WestStander17
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12:33am Tue 15 Jan 13

tug509 says...

Sorry cant see Crofts (MASSIVE disappointment) or Hammond ( who looks like he has been sent by Saints to scupper us,...yes rubbish i know ..or) doing a lot for us. Hammond as a local lad pees me off,he was great with us,ok at a lower level,but,i honestly bought into the ,he will do for us ,what he did for them attitude. The Hammond i remember took no prisoners and worked hard. Hopefully there`s something to come,i hope so. The old Hammond was a fighter. UTA
Sorry cant see Crofts (MASSIVE disappointment) or Hammond ( who looks like he has been sent by Saints to scupper us,...yes rubbish i know ..or) doing a lot for us. Hammond as a local lad pees me off,he was great with us,ok at a lower level,but,i honestly bought into the ,he will do for us ,what he did for them attitude. The Hammond i remember took no prisoners and worked hard. Hopefully there`s something to come,i hope so. The old Hammond was a fighter. UTA tug509
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12:52am Tue 15 Jan 13

pablobrowno says...

When and why did football fans start regularly discussing the wages of our players! Let's be honest it is not as simple and transparent as that! There are wages, transfer fees, signing on fees, agents fees, even sponsorship deals all in the mix when players make decisions.

Let's not pretend we actually know what's going on behind the scenes (unless anyone actually does have access to ALL the info, which if so I'm sure they wouldn't post on an internet forum!).
When and why did football fans start regularly discussing the wages of our players! Let's be honest it is not as simple and transparent as that! There are wages, transfer fees, signing on fees, agents fees, even sponsorship deals all in the mix when players make decisions. Let's not pretend we actually know what's going on behind the scenes (unless anyone actually does have access to ALL the info, which if so I'm sure they wouldn't post on an internet forum!). pablobrowno
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7:05am Tue 15 Jan 13

albionfan33 says...

tug509 wrote:
How about,

Kuszcack

Greer
El abd
Bridge
Calderon/Bruno

Bridcutt (higher than a sweeper)

Buckley
Orlandi
Lua Lua

CMS
Barnes/Ulloa/Hoskins (2 from 4)

Apart from naff off,any thoughts. UTA
if only gp was brave enough to play that way. i can only assume he sees our lack of pace at the back as a major hinderance in plaaying more attacking (that team would sweep all before them inho)
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: How about, Kuszcack Greer El abd Bridge Calderon/Bruno Bridcutt (higher than a sweeper) Buckley Orlandi Lua Lua CMS Barnes/Ulloa/Hoskins (2 from 4) Apart from naff off,any thoughts. UTA[/p][/quote]if only gp was brave enough to play that way. i can only assume he sees our lack of pace at the back as a major hinderance in plaaying more attacking (that team would sweep all before them inho) albionfan33
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1:56pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Eddy B says...

Great to have 2 good right backs (and a third if you include Lopez). Also remember we have just bought the Latvian lad for left back cover - it would appear central defence is a bit lacking with Dunk having lost a bit of form this season. Really like Calde, and would like to fit him in the team but as he is very adaptable (can play right back, left back, or midfield) expect he will be a nailed on sub each game.
Great to have 2 good right backs (and a third if you include Lopez). Also remember we have just bought the Latvian lad for left back cover - it would appear central defence is a bit lacking with Dunk having lost a bit of form this season. Really like Calde, and would like to fit him in the team but as he is very adaptable (can play right back, left back, or midfield) expect he will be a nailed on sub each game. Eddy B
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1:11pm Wed 16 Jan 13

tug509 says...

Thanks very much for your comments,lonegull,al
bionfan33. UTA
Thanks very much for your comments,lonegull,al bionfan33. UTA tug509
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