Albion duo doubts for Gunners clash

The Argus: Andrew Crofts, could be hamstrung for Arsenal's visit. Andrew Crofts, could be hamstrung for Arsenal's visit.

  Albion have doubts over Bruno and Andrew Crofts for Arsenal's FA Cup visit on Saturday.


  Bruno has missed seven of the last eight matches with an Achilles problem.


  Boss Gus Poyet has also revealed that Crofts' absence from the squad for the draws at Birmingham and Blackburn was due to injury.


  Poyet told The Argus: "On Thursday (last) he felt his hamstring here at The Amex. We thought it was nothing but then on Friday he couldn't train, so we left him behind."


  Albion had no pitch to train on this morning, reducing the chances of Bruno and Crofts proving their fitness to play a part against the Gunners.


  Vicente came through his first league start of the season at Blackburn. The Spaniard, sidelined since August by thigh trouble, lasted 55 minutes at Ewood Park before he was substituted.


  Poyet said: "He is tired and tight but allright, so he is available again."


  The Seagulls are still waiting for international clearance for new signing Leonardo Ulloa.


  Poyet, confirming there had been no developments on the Argentinian's red tape issue, said: "I can't say too much, because I think I have been quite clear about the situation. I was expecting him to play against Birmingham and I still don't understand why."


  Albion have yet to make a fresh bid for giant Dutch centre half Virgil van Dijk after their original offer was rejected by his club Groningen.


  The transfer window shuts at 11pm next Thursday and Poyet said: "At the moment it's very quiet. We have got a big squad with practically everybody fit and I don't like bringing players just for the sake of using the transfer window.


  "If something happened the other way (players leaving) then we are ready, just in case."

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11:26am Thu 24 Jan 13

Clean Sheet says...

We wont miss Crofts, but Bruno is a strong part of our team, even though Calde and David are good replacements.

Interesting that Ulloa is not yet cleared to play, but i'm not sure he would go straight into the team for Saturday.
We wont miss Crofts, but Bruno is a strong part of our team, even though Calde and David are good replacements. Interesting that Ulloa is not yet cleared to play, but i'm not sure he would go straight into the team for Saturday. Clean Sheet

11:39am Thu 24 Jan 13

WestStander17 says...

Thankfully, we have Calderon to play right-back which limits the loss of Bruno. Will be good when he is back though.

No need to risk Crofts either with everyone else fit. Would think that will mean Hammond and/or Dicker will join Bridcutt in midfield. Someone will need to get close to Wilshere if he plays!
Thankfully, we have Calderon to play right-back which limits the loss of Bruno. Will be good when he is back though. No need to risk Crofts either with everyone else fit. Would think that will mean Hammond and/or Dicker will join Bridcutt in midfield. Someone will need to get close to Wilshere if he plays! WestStander17

11:40am Thu 24 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

I agree, I think Ulloa's debut will be from the bench. At least he's been training with us for a short while so he will be more up to speed with our methods than if he'd played in either of the last two games.

I'm really waiting for Crofts to show the form he had with Norwich in the Championship. He's a good player, but maybe he needs a run in the team to get his rhythm?
I agree, I think Ulloa's debut will be from the bench. At least he's been training with us for a short while so he will be more up to speed with our methods than if he'd played in either of the last two games. I'm really waiting for Crofts to show the form he had with Norwich in the Championship. He's a good player, but maybe he needs a run in the team to get his rhythm? Old Scrote of the Amex

11:44am Thu 24 Jan 13

saraman says...

Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.
Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know. saraman

11:44am Thu 24 Jan 13

Gee Jay says...

Agree, Clean Sheets, Andrew Crofts does not appear to be the player that we sold to Norwich.
David Lopez impressed at right back, and much as we all love Calde, I wonder if he has the pace for Saturday's game.
Great if 'Big Len' get's clearance to play.
Good chance for the Albion to put last season's Liverpool nightmare to rest with a good display for the (hopefully) full Amex crowd.
Agree, Clean Sheets, Andrew Crofts does not appear to be the player that we sold to Norwich. David Lopez impressed at right back, and much as we all love Calde, I wonder if he has the pace for Saturday's game. Great if 'Big Len' get's clearance to play. Good chance for the Albion to put last season's Liverpool nightmare to rest with a good display for the (hopefully) full Amex crowd. Gee Jay

12:13pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Alan G Skinner says...

Great news regarding Vicente, his quality in midfield, will help us retain possession against Arsenal, which will be so important. The Ulloa situation is rapidly decending into farce, is this down to some sought of third party ownership issue?
Great news regarding Vicente, his quality in midfield, will help us retain possession against Arsenal, which will be so important. The Ulloa situation is rapidly decending into farce, is this down to some sought of third party ownership issue? Alan G Skinner

12:23pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Albion23 says...

Seems Leo,s paperwork keeps getting put at the bottom of the pile. I would suggest. What other good reason could thiere be.?
Seems Leo,s paperwork keeps getting put at the bottom of the pile. I would suggest. What other good reason could thiere be.? Albion23

12:26pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Tommy11 says...

Sorry to be blunt, but we won't miss Crofts.

In all honesty, I never rated him when he was with us first time around. He was ok and he chipped in with some goals, but he does not do enough for me. I find him extreamly overrated and I bet he cost us in the region of £1m.. which was a total waste of money.

I think Calde is doing a great job as normal, so missing Bruno is ok. Bruno is class, but Calde is a much better defender and I feel will do a better job against the Gunners.
Sorry to be blunt, but we won't miss Crofts. In all honesty, I never rated him when he was with us first time around. He was ok and he chipped in with some goals, but he does not do enough for me. I find him extreamly overrated and I bet he cost us in the region of £1m.. which was a total waste of money. I think Calde is doing a great job as normal, so missing Bruno is ok. Bruno is class, but Calde is a much better defender and I feel will do a better job against the Gunners. Tommy11

12:35pm Thu 24 Jan 13

tinker111 says...

Croft no miss better than him available Bruno well LOPAS /Barnes combo is the best we have on right side so no worries
Croft no miss better than him available Bruno well LOPAS /Barnes combo is the best we have on right side so no worries tinker111

12:35pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

Tommy11 wrote:
Sorry to be blunt, but we won't miss Crofts.

In all honesty, I never rated him when he was with us first time around. He was ok and he chipped in with some goals, but he does not do enough for me. I find him extreamly overrated and I bet he cost us in the region of £1m.. which was a total waste of money.

I think Calde is doing a great job as normal, so missing Bruno is ok. Bruno is class, but Calde is a much better defender and I feel will do a better job against the Gunners.
I thought the rumour was Crofts cost £300k, which seems about right.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: Sorry to be blunt, but we won't miss Crofts. In all honesty, I never rated him when he was with us first time around. He was ok and he chipped in with some goals, but he does not do enough for me. I find him extreamly overrated and I bet he cost us in the region of £1m.. which was a total waste of money. I think Calde is doing a great job as normal, so missing Bruno is ok. Bruno is class, but Calde is a much better defender and I feel will do a better job against the Gunners.[/p][/quote]I thought the rumour was Crofts cost £300k, which seems about right. Old Scrote of the Amex

12:54pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Tommy11 says...

tinker111 wrote:
Croft no miss better than him available Bruno well LOPAS /Barnes combo is the best we have on right side so no worries
Barnes on right?? you must meen Buckley you nutcase.
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: Croft no miss better than him available Bruno well LOPAS /Barnes combo is the best we have on right side so no worries[/p][/quote]Barnes on right?? you must meen Buckley you nutcase. Tommy11

1:08pm Thu 24 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

On the van Dijk situation there is a report on talkSPORT (linked to Sunderland) that Groningen are wanting about £4 million for him which puts us out of the running if true. I really hope Poyet is still trying to bring in another CB even if it isn't van Dijk.
The Ulloa International clearance situation is becoming ridiculous. It's over a week since he signed and still we can't play him although presumably we are paying his wages and have paid whatever is due to his spanish club.
I think you may have hit the nail on the head Alan G Skinner re the 3rd party part ownership. Echoes of another Argentinian one Carlos Tevez perhaps ?
On the van Dijk situation there is a report on talkSPORT (linked to Sunderland) that Groningen are wanting about £4 million for him which puts us out of the running if true. I really hope Poyet is still trying to bring in another CB even if it isn't van Dijk. The Ulloa International clearance situation is becoming ridiculous. It's over a week since he signed and still we can't play him although presumably we are paying his wages and have paid whatever is due to his spanish club. I think you may have hit the nail on the head Alan G Skinner re the 3rd party part ownership. Echoes of another Argentinian one Carlos Tevez perhaps ? ballantrrae

1:15pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Claude Back says...

Gee Jay wrote:
Agree, Clean Sheets, Andrew Crofts does not appear to be the player that we sold to Norwich.
David Lopez impressed at right back, and much as we all love Calde, I wonder if he has the pace for Saturday's game.
Great if 'Big Len' get's clearance to play.
Good chance for the Albion to put last season's Liverpool nightmare to rest with a good display for the (hopefully) full Amex crowd.
Also, will Walcott cope with AEA's speed?
[quote][p][bold]Gee Jay[/bold] wrote: Agree, Clean Sheets, Andrew Crofts does not appear to be the player that we sold to Norwich. David Lopez impressed at right back, and much as we all love Calde, I wonder if he has the pace for Saturday's game. Great if 'Big Len' get's clearance to play. Good chance for the Albion to put last season's Liverpool nightmare to rest with a good display for the (hopefully) full Amex crowd.[/p][/quote]Also, will Walcott cope with AEA's speed? Claude Back

1:45pm Thu 24 Jan 13

WisdomSpeaks says...

saraman wrote:
Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.
I agree with you Saraman. It feels something strange here. The guy has been with us for 10 days now and still not our player. Gus' comments indicate he's not fully 'in the know'.

It would be nice if Paul Barber/David Burke or someone at the club would have the courage to come out and be honest as to the situation. Interesting no one from the media seems interested in asking clear precise questions regarding this situation.

Most supporters can take any news as long as it is given to them straight! As long as we remember that he is not our player YET! Hopefully the £2 Million isn't yet in Almeira's account LoL!!!!
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.[/p][/quote]I agree with you Saraman. It feels something strange here. The guy has been with us for 10 days now and still not our player. Gus' comments indicate he's not fully 'in the know'. It would be nice if Paul Barber/David Burke or someone at the club would have the courage to come out and be honest as to the situation. Interesting no one from the media seems interested in asking clear precise questions regarding this situation. Most supporters can take any news as long as it is given to them straight! As long as we remember that he is not our player YET! Hopefully the £2 Million isn't yet in Almeira's account LoL!!!! WisdomSpeaks

2:04pm Thu 24 Jan 13

fairweathersupporter says...

Looking forward to Saturday, nice to have a break from the league campaign of 'Stay on target, stay on target' and 'almost there, almost there' (hopefully Luke or in this case Gus will save my season)…
But now for the evil Darth Wenger. Be interesting to see how we cope with the pace and technical skill of some very good players. I know Bradford and all that but we'd actually be trying to take them on as wannabe equals. I have no doubt that El Abd is relishing the opportunity of Mr Walcott and co ( I do accept that this is perhaps not an equal contest). But for all the complaints of lack of pace etc; well here's a good test...
As for Crofts, no he hasn't quite hit the mark. Hammond has looked far more convincing in the central role. Bruno is class and will be missed but Calde seems to have recaptured some fire in the last couple of games I have seen him play (albeit I sort of like Spanish Dave in that position as well).
The 'Big Len' situation is probably not a conspiracy but the theories are very interesting...
Anyway, anything could happen on Saturday and a win is not out of the question. Chelsea at home in the next round please (Am I too old to be a ball boy?).
May the Albion be with you… Always.
Looking forward to Saturday, nice to have a break from the league campaign of 'Stay on target, stay on target' and 'almost there, almost there' (hopefully Luke or in this case Gus will save my season)… But now for the evil Darth Wenger. Be interesting to see how we cope with the pace and technical skill of some very good players. I know Bradford and all that but we'd actually be trying to take them on as wannabe equals. I have no doubt that El Abd is relishing the opportunity of Mr Walcott and co ( I do accept that this is perhaps not an equal contest). But for all the complaints of lack of pace etc; well here's a good test... As for Crofts, no he hasn't quite hit the mark. Hammond has looked far more convincing in the central role. Bruno is class and will be missed but Calde seems to have recaptured some fire in the last couple of games I have seen him play (albeit I sort of like Spanish Dave in that position as well). The 'Big Len' situation is probably not a conspiracy but the theories are very interesting... Anyway, anything could happen on Saturday and a win is not out of the question. Chelsea at home in the next round please (Am I too old to be a ball boy?). May the Albion be with you… Always. fairweathersupporter

2:08pm Thu 24 Jan 13

WisdomSpeaks says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
Looking forward to Saturday, nice to have a break from the league campaign of 'Stay on target, stay on target' and 'almost there, almost there' (hopefully Luke or in this case Gus will save my season)…
But now for the evil Darth Wenger. Be interesting to see how we cope with the pace and technical skill of some very good players. I know Bradford and all that but we'd actually be trying to take them on as wannabe equals. I have no doubt that El Abd is relishing the opportunity of Mr Walcott and co ( I do accept that this is perhaps not an equal contest). But for all the complaints of lack of pace etc; well here's a good test...
As for Crofts, no he hasn't quite hit the mark. Hammond has looked far more convincing in the central role. Bruno is class and will be missed but Calde seems to have recaptured some fire in the last couple of games I have seen him play (albeit I sort of like Spanish Dave in that position as well).
The 'Big Len' situation is probably not a conspiracy but the theories are very interesting...
Anyway, anything could happen on Saturday and a win is not out of the question. Chelsea at home in the next round please (Am I too old to be a ball boy?).
May the Albion be with you… Always.
Is that in the hope of getting a kicking!
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: Looking forward to Saturday, nice to have a break from the league campaign of 'Stay on target, stay on target' and 'almost there, almost there' (hopefully Luke or in this case Gus will save my season)… But now for the evil Darth Wenger. Be interesting to see how we cope with the pace and technical skill of some very good players. I know Bradford and all that but we'd actually be trying to take them on as wannabe equals. I have no doubt that El Abd is relishing the opportunity of Mr Walcott and co ( I do accept that this is perhaps not an equal contest). But for all the complaints of lack of pace etc; well here's a good test... As for Crofts, no he hasn't quite hit the mark. Hammond has looked far more convincing in the central role. Bruno is class and will be missed but Calde seems to have recaptured some fire in the last couple of games I have seen him play (albeit I sort of like Spanish Dave in that position as well). The 'Big Len' situation is probably not a conspiracy but the theories are very interesting... Anyway, anything could happen on Saturday and a win is not out of the question. Chelsea at home in the next round please (Am I too old to be a ball boy?). May the Albion be with you… Always.[/p][/quote]Is that in the hope of getting a kicking! WisdomSpeaks

2:12pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Sarah Booker Lewis says...

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Two comments have been removed for legal reasons. Sarah Booker Lewis

2:16pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

As many ar esaying, the loss of these two players is not a disaster, we have decent cover.

My biggest fear for saturday is the pace of Arsenal's players and the pace at which they pass the ball. The only way I cna see us trying to cope with their all round speed is for Bridge, and who ever gets the right back shirt, to stay at home more than usual. We may have to lose some, not all, of their raids.

This might not be a problem if Vicente starts as the midfield play maker, he can give us a dimention to our game that appears to have been lacking.

Just taking the second half Arsenal performance of yesterday scares me. If we are to win this game I feel we have to get a couple of goals up, I have the feeling that Arsenal will roll over us if we do not take the game to them and score from chances created.
Arsenal seem to have this ability to step things up when needed. Yesterday they were even at half time and look what happened. If we can get them on the back foot in the first half we might have a chance.

If we lose we lose, I just hope that it's not a humiliating slapping. TK has to start.
As many ar esaying, the loss of these two players is not a disaster, we have decent cover. My biggest fear for saturday is the pace of Arsenal's players and the pace at which they pass the ball. The only way I cna see us trying to cope with their all round speed is for Bridge, and who ever gets the right back shirt, to stay at home more than usual. We may have to lose some, not all, of their raids. This might not be a problem if Vicente starts as the midfield play maker, he can give us a dimention to our game that appears to have been lacking. Just taking the second half Arsenal performance of yesterday scares me. If we are to win this game I feel we have to get a couple of goals up, I have the feeling that Arsenal will roll over us if we do not take the game to them and score from chances created. Arsenal seem to have this ability to step things up when needed. Yesterday they were even at half time and look what happened. If we can get them on the back foot in the first half we might have a chance. If we lose we lose, I just hope that it's not a humiliating slapping. TK has to start. VegasSeagull

2:21pm Thu 24 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
Looking forward to Saturday, nice to have a break from the league campaign of 'Stay on target, stay on target' and 'almost there, almost there' (hopefully Luke or in this case Gus will save my season)…
But now for the evil Darth Wenger. Be interesting to see how we cope with the pace and technical skill of some very good players. I know Bradford and all that but we'd actually be trying to take them on as wannabe equals. I have no doubt that El Abd is relishing the opportunity of Mr Walcott and co ( I do accept that this is perhaps not an equal contest). But for all the complaints of lack of pace etc; well here's a good test...
As for Crofts, no he hasn't quite hit the mark. Hammond has looked far more convincing in the central role. Bruno is class and will be missed but Calde seems to have recaptured some fire in the last couple of games I have seen him play (albeit I sort of like Spanish Dave in that position as well).
The 'Big Len' situation is probably not a conspiracy but the theories are very interesting...
Anyway, anything could happen on Saturday and a win is not out of the question. Chelsea at home in the next round please (Am I too old to be a ball boy?).
May the Albion be with you… Always.
Good post fws.
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: Looking forward to Saturday, nice to have a break from the league campaign of 'Stay on target, stay on target' and 'almost there, almost there' (hopefully Luke or in this case Gus will save my season)… But now for the evil Darth Wenger. Be interesting to see how we cope with the pace and technical skill of some very good players. I know Bradford and all that but we'd actually be trying to take them on as wannabe equals. I have no doubt that El Abd is relishing the opportunity of Mr Walcott and co ( I do accept that this is perhaps not an equal contest). But for all the complaints of lack of pace etc; well here's a good test... As for Crofts, no he hasn't quite hit the mark. Hammond has looked far more convincing in the central role. Bruno is class and will be missed but Calde seems to have recaptured some fire in the last couple of games I have seen him play (albeit I sort of like Spanish Dave in that position as well). The 'Big Len' situation is probably not a conspiracy but the theories are very interesting... Anyway, anything could happen on Saturday and a win is not out of the question. Chelsea at home in the next round please (Am I too old to be a ball boy?). May the Albion be with you… Always.[/p][/quote]Good post fws. ballantrrae

2:25pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
saraman wrote: Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.
I agree with you Saraman. It feels something strange here. The guy has been with us for 10 days now and still not our player. Gus' comments indicate he's not fully 'in the know'. It would be nice if Paul Barber/David Burke or someone at the club would have the courage to come out and be honest as to the situation. Interesting no one from the media seems interested in asking clear precise questions regarding this situation. Most supporters can take any news as long as it is given to them straight! As long as we remember that he is not our player YET! Hopefully the £2 Million isn't yet in Almeira's account LoL!!!!
I don't know how to answer the question I am about to pose but maybe someone else does.

We pretty much know when Ulloa's papers were submitted to the FA, they would be date stamped.

Many other lcubs would also have submitted papers for players too, also date stamped.

My question is, how many registrations have gone thru with a date stamp later than that of Ulloa?

I would have to assume that these matters are handled according to date order of application.
If other player's paper work has been completed with a date stamp later than Ulloa's, that would suggest that something is wrong.
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.[/p][/quote]I agree with you Saraman. It feels something strange here. The guy has been with us for 10 days now and still not our player. Gus' comments indicate he's not fully 'in the know'. It would be nice if Paul Barber/David Burke or someone at the club would have the courage to come out and be honest as to the situation. Interesting no one from the media seems interested in asking clear precise questions regarding this situation. Most supporters can take any news as long as it is given to them straight! As long as we remember that he is not our player YET! Hopefully the £2 Million isn't yet in Almeira's account LoL!!!![/p][/quote]I don't know how to answer the question I am about to pose but maybe someone else does. We pretty much know when Ulloa's papers were submitted to the FA, they would be date stamped. Many other lcubs would also have submitted papers for players too, also date stamped. My question is, how many registrations have gone thru with a date stamp later than that of Ulloa? I would have to assume that these matters are handled according to date order of application. If other player's paper work has been completed with a date stamp later than Ulloa's, that would suggest that something is wrong. VegasSeagull

2:38pm Thu 24 Jan 13

WisdomSpeaks says...

Good question Vegas - difficult to find out. All I know is how it FEELS - and the signs are that something is amiss. There are two FA's involved (Spanish and English) and there didn't seem to be a problem with either Vicente or David Lopez when they came.

Who knows - his 'missus' is expecting another child, maybe she arrived and threw her arms up at the place/weather who knows - what I do know is if the lady of the house ain't happy there's normally problems. All this speculation could be so easily avoided if someone from the club/FA/Spanish FA gave a true statement of fact.

If I were Naylor I'd be calling the FA/Spanish FA and asking the exact questions you asked!

It feels the same as when you're waiting at the airport and the sign simply says 'Delayed until further notice' nobody comes out to speak to the customers and explain the situation and they all get shirty.

BTW I totally agree with TK playing on Saturday. It would be lunacy to leave him out. It's not as though we're in Champions League/Prem/FA Cup etc. The gulf between TK and CA/PB is so large that I believe TK should be played all the time he's fit. Sorry for the other lads but that's life!
Good question Vegas - difficult to find out. All I know is how it FEELS - and the signs are that something is amiss. There are two FA's involved (Spanish and English) and there didn't seem to be a problem with either Vicente or David Lopez when they came. Who knows - his 'missus' is expecting another child, maybe she arrived and threw her arms up at the place/weather who knows - what I do know is if the lady of the house ain't happy there's normally problems. All this speculation could be so easily avoided if someone from the club/FA/Spanish FA gave a true statement of fact. If I were Naylor I'd be calling the FA/Spanish FA and asking the exact questions you asked! It feels the same as when you're waiting at the airport and the sign simply says 'Delayed until further notice' nobody comes out to speak to the customers and explain the situation and they all get shirty. BTW I totally agree with TK playing on Saturday. It would be lunacy to leave him out. It's not as though we're in Champions League/Prem/FA Cup etc. The gulf between TK and CA/PB is so large that I believe TK should be played all the time he's fit. Sorry for the other lads but that's life! WisdomSpeaks

2:51pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Captain Haddock says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
Looking forward to Saturday, nice to have a break from the league campaign of 'Stay on target, stay on target' and 'almost there, almost there' (hopefully Luke or in this case Gus will save my season)…
But now for the evil Darth Wenger. Be interesting to see how we cope with the pace and technical skill of some very good players. I know Bradford and all that but we'd actually be trying to take them on as wannabe equals. I have no doubt that El Abd is relishing the opportunity of Mr Walcott and co ( I do accept that this is perhaps not an equal contest). But for all the complaints of lack of pace etc; well here's a good test...
As for Crofts, no he hasn't quite hit the mark. Hammond has looked far more convincing in the central role. Bruno is class and will be missed but Calde seems to have recaptured some fire in the last couple of games I have seen him play (albeit I sort of like Spanish Dave in that position as well).
The 'Big Len' situation is probably not a conspiracy but the theories are very interesting...
Anyway, anything could happen on Saturday and a win is not out of the question. Chelsea at home in the next round please (Am I too old to be a ball boy?).
May the Albion be with you… Always.
We gave em Gooner types a good run for their money last time we met (a long time ago, in a stadium not so far, far away).

Reckon we'll go one better and get the 2-2 this time....convenient for me as I'm only a couple of bus rides away.
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: Looking forward to Saturday, nice to have a break from the league campaign of 'Stay on target, stay on target' and 'almost there, almost there' (hopefully Luke or in this case Gus will save my season)… But now for the evil Darth Wenger. Be interesting to see how we cope with the pace and technical skill of some very good players. I know Bradford and all that but we'd actually be trying to take them on as wannabe equals. I have no doubt that El Abd is relishing the opportunity of Mr Walcott and co ( I do accept that this is perhaps not an equal contest). But for all the complaints of lack of pace etc; well here's a good test... As for Crofts, no he hasn't quite hit the mark. Hammond has looked far more convincing in the central role. Bruno is class and will be missed but Calde seems to have recaptured some fire in the last couple of games I have seen him play (albeit I sort of like Spanish Dave in that position as well). The 'Big Len' situation is probably not a conspiracy but the theories are very interesting... Anyway, anything could happen on Saturday and a win is not out of the question. Chelsea at home in the next round please (Am I too old to be a ball boy?). May the Albion be with you… Always.[/p][/quote]We gave em Gooner types a good run for their money last time we met (a long time ago, in a stadium not so far, far away). Reckon we'll go one better and get the 2-2 this time....convenient for me as I'm only a couple of bus rides away. Captain Haddock

2:57pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Captain Haddock says...

Another good post from you WisdomSpeaks. I agree entirely. Regarding the Ulloa situation, it is indeed getting ridiculous. I can only assume that there is some sort of glitch or problem regarding the validity or clarity of the paperwork or some other complication.

It is immensely frustrating and I sincerely hope it will be resolved before Saturday. Would be great to see him get at least a few minutes on the pitch.
Another good post from you WisdomSpeaks. I agree entirely. Regarding the Ulloa situation, it is indeed getting ridiculous. I can only assume that there is some sort of glitch or problem regarding the validity or clarity of the paperwork or some other complication. It is immensely frustrating and I sincerely hope it will be resolved before Saturday. Would be great to see him get at least a few minutes on the pitch. Captain Haddock

3:06pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Captain Haddock says...

While I am on here and for anybody that cares! here's a rundown on the pronunciations of our new signings:

Vitalijs Maksimenko= Vitali Maksimienko (they pronounce with an extra 'i' for some reason)....info from a Latvian national I know.

Leonardo Ulloa= Ujoa (with the 'j' having a 'z' inflection to it too)...info from South American footy expert Tim Vickery on 5 Live's World Football Phone-in - early hours of Satyrday morning / podcast...we got a mention last week but its recommendable anyway.
While I am on here and for anybody that cares! here's a rundown on the pronunciations of our new signings: Vitalijs Maksimenko= Vitali Maksimienko (they pronounce with an extra 'i' for some reason)....info from a Latvian national I know. Leonardo Ulloa= Ujoa (with the 'j' having a 'z' inflection to it too)...info from South American footy expert Tim Vickery on 5 Live's World Football Phone-in - early hours of Satyrday morning / podcast...we got a mention last week but its recommendable anyway. Captain Haddock

3:38pm Thu 24 Jan 13

saraman says...

Sarah Booker Lewis wrote:
Two comments have been removed for legal reasons.
Hi Sarah, what did I say that was illegal? I only mentioned what is in the Argus reports. If I got it wrong I apologise.
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker Lewis[/bold] wrote: Two comments have been removed for legal reasons.[/p][/quote]Hi Sarah, what did I say that was illegal? I only mentioned what is in the Argus reports. If I got it wrong I apologise. saraman

3:41pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
WisdomSpeaks wrote:
saraman wrote: Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.
I agree with you Saraman. It feels something strange here. The guy has been with us for 10 days now and still not our player. Gus' comments indicate he's not fully 'in the know'. It would be nice if Paul Barber/David Burke or someone at the club would have the courage to come out and be honest as to the situation. Interesting no one from the media seems interested in asking clear precise questions regarding this situation. Most supporters can take any news as long as it is given to them straight! As long as we remember that he is not our player YET! Hopefully the £2 Million isn't yet in Almeira's account LoL!!!!
I don't know how to answer the question I am about to pose but maybe someone else does.

We pretty much know when Ulloa's papers were submitted to the FA, they would be date stamped.

Many other lcubs would also have submitted papers for players too, also date stamped.

My question is, how many registrations have gone thru with a date stamp later than that of Ulloa?

I would have to assume that these matters are handled according to date order of application.
If other player's paper work has been completed with a date stamp later than Ulloa's, that would suggest that something is wrong.
Not necessarily. I doubt very much they go through them serially and only start one when they've completed the previous one. They'll have many on the go (as there are times when they'll just be waiting for stuff) so subsequent - but simpler - applications could quite feasibly be signed off sooner.

I don't know whether it's the fact he Argentinian, or whether it's because of the 3rd party ownership (or both, or something else!) but it's flippin' annoying.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.[/p][/quote]I agree with you Saraman. It feels something strange here. The guy has been with us for 10 days now and still not our player. Gus' comments indicate he's not fully 'in the know'. It would be nice if Paul Barber/David Burke or someone at the club would have the courage to come out and be honest as to the situation. Interesting no one from the media seems interested in asking clear precise questions regarding this situation. Most supporters can take any news as long as it is given to them straight! As long as we remember that he is not our player YET! Hopefully the £2 Million isn't yet in Almeira's account LoL!!!![/p][/quote]I don't know how to answer the question I am about to pose but maybe someone else does. We pretty much know when Ulloa's papers were submitted to the FA, they would be date stamped. Many other lcubs would also have submitted papers for players too, also date stamped. My question is, how many registrations have gone thru with a date stamp later than that of Ulloa? I would have to assume that these matters are handled according to date order of application. If other player's paper work has been completed with a date stamp later than Ulloa's, that would suggest that something is wrong.[/p][/quote]Not necessarily. I doubt very much they go through them serially and only start one when they've completed the previous one. They'll have many on the go (as there are times when they'll just be waiting for stuff) so subsequent - but simpler - applications could quite feasibly be signed off sooner. I don't know whether it's the fact he Argentinian, or whether it's because of the 3rd party ownership (or both, or something else!) but it's flippin' annoying. Old Scrote of the Amex

3:44pm Thu 24 Jan 13

jockithenoo says...

saraman wrote:
Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.
Hi saraman
I think the clearance has to come from Argentina !
So it could be a bit of a wait
UTA
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.[/p][/quote]Hi saraman I think the clearance has to come from Argentina ! So it could be a bit of a wait UTA jockithenoo

3:52pm Thu 24 Jan 13

saraman says...

jockithenoo wrote:
saraman wrote: Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.
Hi saraman I think the clearance has to come from Argentina ! So it could be a bit of a wait UTA
Yes, that's a point Jock. They still haven't forgiven us for The Falklands.
[quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.[/p][/quote]Hi saraman I think the clearance has to come from Argentina ! So it could be a bit of a wait UTA[/p][/quote]Yes, that's a point Jock. They still haven't forgiven us for The Falklands. saraman

4:10pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

Tommy11 wrote:
Sorry to be blunt, but we won't miss Crofts.

In all honesty, I never rated him when he was with us first time around. He was ok and he chipped in with some goals, but he does not do enough for me. I find him extreamly overrated and I bet he cost us in the region of £1m.. which was a total waste of money.

I think Calde is doing a great job as normal, so missing Bruno is ok. Bruno is class, but Calde is a much better defender and I feel will do a better job against the Gunners.
Such a good post Tommy11.Very odd i bring it up yesterday in a post,then just out the blue its a injury lol.Why not say that in the first place then?There is a very good reason Norwich had him out and off their wage bill asap.Some of the sheep on here will say something like his moving house,or his wife is not happy.Maybe even his dog is feeling a bit under the weather.Thing is i know the reason Norwich wanted shot asap.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: Sorry to be blunt, but we won't miss Crofts. In all honesty, I never rated him when he was with us first time around. He was ok and he chipped in with some goals, but he does not do enough for me. I find him extreamly overrated and I bet he cost us in the region of £1m.. which was a total waste of money. I think Calde is doing a great job as normal, so missing Bruno is ok. Bruno is class, but Calde is a much better defender and I feel will do a better job against the Gunners.[/p][/quote]Such a good post Tommy11.Very odd i bring it up yesterday in a post,then just out the blue its a injury lol.Why not say that in the first place then?There is a very good reason Norwich had him out and off their wage bill asap.Some of the sheep on here will say something like his moving house,or his wife is not happy.Maybe even his dog is feeling a bit under the weather.Thing is i know the reason Norwich wanted shot asap. Freeloaders

4:14pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

i think this Ulloa business is turning into a joke now, can see what the delay is? the way this is going, he may be ready for next season!!
i think this Ulloa business is turning into a joke now, can see what the delay is? the way this is going, he may be ready for next season!! Tony the tiger eastbourne

4:20pm Thu 24 Jan 13

gatonegro says...

Alan G Skinner wrote:
Great news regarding Vicente, his quality in midfield, will help us retain possession against Arsenal, which will be so important. The Ulloa situation is rapidly decending into farce, is this down to some sought of third party ownership issue?
You may well be right Alan G Skinner. The Spanish paper Marca reported on Ulloa's move to Brighton on 12 Jan and said that Almeria hold 50% of the player rights (1.8m euro). Dont know who holds the other half.
[quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: Great news regarding Vicente, his quality in midfield, will help us retain possession against Arsenal, which will be so important. The Ulloa situation is rapidly decending into farce, is this down to some sought of third party ownership issue?[/p][/quote]You may well be right Alan G Skinner. The Spanish paper Marca reported on Ulloa's move to Brighton on 12 Jan and said that Almeria hold 50% of the player rights (1.8m euro). Dont know who holds the other half. gatonegro

4:38pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

Admits between 10 or 15 shots and a bottle of wine.What a super fit footballer he must be.Maybe get away with in the 70s or 80s.Thats the reason the prem-league don't have many top English players in it now.Plus im sure why Gus is lookng away from home.
Admits between 10 or 15 shots and a bottle of wine.What a super fit footballer he must be.Maybe get away with in the 70s or 80s.Thats the reason the prem-league don't have many top English players in it now.Plus im sure why Gus is lookng away from home. Freeloaders

4:39pm Thu 24 Jan 13

mikeygit says...

Like all have said above the Ulloa business has a mystery about it, and it would be good if Barber and co could come clean and tell us what is going on--or rather NOT, as supporters we are an integeral part of the club and those who go to matches, pay their dues, buy merchandise and grub at matches, so have The Supporters a right to know what the hitch is??? He is with us and obviously wants to play, supporters want him to play and the management want him to play--so why is the papaerwork not completed so he CAN PLAY???
Like all have said above the Ulloa business has a mystery about it, and it would be good if Barber and co could come clean and tell us what is going on--or rather NOT, as supporters we are an integeral part of the club and those who go to matches, pay their dues, buy merchandise and grub at matches, so have The Supporters a right to know what the hitch is??? He is with us and obviously wants to play, supporters want him to play and the management want him to play--so why is the papaerwork not completed so he CAN PLAY??? mikeygit

4:47pm Thu 24 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Another good post from you WisdomSpeaks. I agree entirely. Regarding the Ulloa situation, it is indeed getting ridiculous. I can only assume that there is some sort of glitch or problem regarding the validity or clarity of the paperwork or some other complication.

It is immensely frustrating and I sincerely hope it will be resolved before Saturday. Would be great to see him get at least a few minutes on the pitch.
VegasSeagull, Captain Haddock and others there clearly is some problem with Ulloa's clearance.
I say this because Poyet (per last week's threads) seemed pretty certain that he would be available last Saturday. Yesterday he didn't seem to be any the wiser about when the clearance would finally come through.
As I said earlier on this thread and Alan G Skinner first raised, it is probably tied up with the 3rd party 'part' ownership situation.
Have we acquired 100% of Ulloa for our £2 million or only 66% (thereby valuing him at £3 million).
Alternatively is there some dispute between Almeira and the 3rd party re splitting the fee.
Another scenario might be that the 3rd Party hasn't signed the paperwork yet and if the 3rd party is in Argentina how long might that take...
The question I would ask is at what point does Ulloa actually become a Brighton player ?
If this drags on can we withdraw from the deal (not that I would want the Albion to do so) in order to sign someone else.
If the clearance hasn't come through by the time the transfer window closes will he still be able to play for us when it does ?
Generally in Contract law it only becomes binding when (a) all parties have agreed/signed and when 'Consideration' has been paid and received. This is all covered under the Offer and Acceptance part of a contract.
It doesn't look healthy that this hasn't been resolved.
I would have thought that these potential problems could have been anticipated and a solution found when we were waiting for the passport situation to be finalised.
This really is the sort of admin issue that presumably falls under the remits of Bailey and Burke and should not be Poyet's responsibility to deal with.
I should add that both Poyet and Ulloa must be thoroughly frustrated by the delay.
Hopefully (fingers crossed) clearance will come through by Midday tomorrow so that Ulloa can play against Arsenal.
Changing the subject Captain Haddock at what time is the Seagulls over London meeting tonight scheduled to start ?
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: Another good post from you WisdomSpeaks. I agree entirely. Regarding the Ulloa situation, it is indeed getting ridiculous. I can only assume that there is some sort of glitch or problem regarding the validity or clarity of the paperwork or some other complication. It is immensely frustrating and I sincerely hope it will be resolved before Saturday. Would be great to see him get at least a few minutes on the pitch.[/p][/quote]VegasSeagull, Captain Haddock and others there clearly is some problem with Ulloa's clearance. I say this because Poyet (per last week's threads) seemed pretty certain that he would be available last Saturday. Yesterday he didn't seem to be any the wiser about when the clearance would finally come through. As I said earlier on this thread and Alan G Skinner first raised, it is probably tied up with the 3rd party 'part' ownership situation. Have we acquired 100% of Ulloa for our £2 million or only 66% (thereby valuing him at £3 million). Alternatively is there some dispute between Almeira and the 3rd party re splitting the fee. Another scenario might be that the 3rd Party hasn't signed the paperwork yet and if the 3rd party is in Argentina how long might that take... The question I would ask is at what point does Ulloa actually become a Brighton player ? If this drags on can we withdraw from the deal (not that I would want the Albion to do so) in order to sign someone else. If the clearance hasn't come through by the time the transfer window closes will he still be able to play for us when it does ? Generally in Contract law it only becomes binding when (a) all parties have agreed/signed and when 'Consideration' has been paid and received. This is all covered under the Offer and Acceptance part of a contract. It doesn't look healthy that this hasn't been resolved. I would have thought that these potential problems could have been anticipated and a solution found when we were waiting for the passport situation to be finalised. This really is the sort of admin issue that presumably falls under the remits of Bailey and Burke and should not be Poyet's responsibility to deal with. I should add that both Poyet and Ulloa must be thoroughly frustrated by the delay. Hopefully (fingers crossed) clearance will come through by Midday tomorrow so that Ulloa can play against Arsenal. Changing the subject Captain Haddock at what time is the Seagulls over London meeting tonight scheduled to start ? ballantrrae

4:49pm Thu 24 Jan 13

WestStander17 says...

Freeloaders wrote:
Admits between 10 or 15 shots and a bottle of wine.What a super fit footballer he must be.Maybe get away with in the 70s or 80s.Thats the reason the prem-league don't have many top English players in it now.Plus im sure why Gus is lookng away from home.
What are you on about?

This is the story about Bruno & Crofts being injured for the Arsenal game!!!
[quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: Admits between 10 or 15 shots and a bottle of wine.What a super fit footballer he must be.Maybe get away with in the 70s or 80s.Thats the reason the prem-league don't have many top English players in it now.Plus im sure why Gus is lookng away from home.[/p][/quote]What are you on about? This is the story about Bruno & Crofts being injured for the Arsenal game!!! WestStander17

4:59pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Mikey, I never had any idea that he is owned by two clubs, as stated a couple of comments back, 'Almeria only own 50% of the player's rights.'
I can only assume that the third person in this affair is the cause of the hold up.

I would have thought that Brighton knew of this dual ownership when they were negotiating to buy him, please God we don't find out that they didn't know.

This delay could be as a result of some kind of payment issues between the third party and Almeria.

What ever the reason for the delay, as stated by others, the club should inform the fans as to how we stand with his registration. The club has an e-mail address perhaps a few hundred e-mails asking the question might get a response from the club.
Mikey, I never had any idea that he is owned by two clubs, as stated a couple of comments back, 'Almeria only own 50% of the player's rights.' I can only assume that the third person in this affair is the cause of the hold up. I would have thought that Brighton knew of this dual ownership when they were negotiating to buy him, please God we don't find out that they didn't know. This delay could be as a result of some kind of payment issues between the third party and Almeria. What ever the reason for the delay, as stated by others, the club should inform the fans as to how we stand with his registration. The club has an e-mail address perhaps a few hundred e-mails asking the question might get a response from the club. VegasSeagull

5:03pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

WestStander17 wrote:
Freeloaders wrote:
Admits between 10 or 15 shots and a bottle of wine.What a super fit footballer he must be.Maybe get away with in the 70s or 80s.Thats the reason the prem-league don't have many top English players in it now.Plus im sure why Gus is lookng away from home.
What are you on about?

This is the story about Bruno & Crofts being injured for the Arsenal game!!!
It really hurts you don't it?lol.Now the real fans can read and see what his really like.For mths on here people like you have told me about the top guy he is.Plus how much he loves the game.LOL.
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: Admits between 10 or 15 shots and a bottle of wine.What a super fit footballer he must be.Maybe get away with in the 70s or 80s.Thats the reason the prem-league don't have many top English players in it now.Plus im sure why Gus is lookng away from home.[/p][/quote]What are you on about? This is the story about Bruno & Crofts being injured for the Arsenal game!!![/p][/quote]It really hurts you don't it?lol.Now the real fans can read and see what his really like.For mths on here people like you have told me about the top guy he is.Plus how much he loves the game.LOL. Freeloaders

5:04pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Go on Vegas, send them a few hundred emails.
Go on Vegas, send them a few hundred emails. Hovite

5:06pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
Another good post from you WisdomSpeaks. I agree entirely. Regarding the Ulloa situation, it is indeed getting ridiculous. I can only assume that there is some sort of glitch or problem regarding the validity or clarity of the paperwork or some other complication.

It is immensely frustrating and I sincerely hope it will be resolved before Saturday. Would be great to see him get at least a few minutes on the pitch.
VegasSeagull, Captain Haddock and others there clearly is some problem with Ulloa's clearance.
I say this because Poyet (per last week's threads) seemed pretty certain that he would be available last Saturday. Yesterday he didn't seem to be any the wiser about when the clearance would finally come through.
As I said earlier on this thread and Alan G Skinner first raised, it is probably tied up with the 3rd party 'part' ownership situation.
Have we acquired 100% of Ulloa for our £2 million or only 66% (thereby valuing him at £3 million).
Alternatively is there some dispute between Almeira and the 3rd party re splitting the fee.
Another scenario might be that the 3rd Party hasn't signed the paperwork yet and if the 3rd party is in Argentina how long might that take...
The question I would ask is at what point does Ulloa actually become a Brighton player ?
If this drags on can we withdraw from the deal (not that I would want the Albion to do so) in order to sign someone else.
If the clearance hasn't come through by the time the transfer window closes will he still be able to play for us when it does ?
Generally in Contract law it only becomes binding when (a) all parties have agreed/signed and when 'Consideration' has been paid and received. This is all covered under the Offer and Acceptance part of a contract.
It doesn't look healthy that this hasn't been resolved.
I would have thought that these potential problems could have been anticipated and a solution found when we were waiting for the passport situation to be finalised.
This really is the sort of admin issue that presumably falls under the remits of Bailey and Burke and should not be Poyet's responsibility to deal with.
I should add that both Poyet and Ulloa must be thoroughly frustrated by the delay.
Hopefully (fingers crossed) clearance will come through by Midday tomorrow so that Ulloa can play against Arsenal.
Changing the subject Captain Haddock at what time is the Seagulls over London meeting tonight scheduled to start ?
I wouldn't worry about it
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: Another good post from you WisdomSpeaks. I agree entirely. Regarding the Ulloa situation, it is indeed getting ridiculous. I can only assume that there is some sort of glitch or problem regarding the validity or clarity of the paperwork or some other complication. It is immensely frustrating and I sincerely hope it will be resolved before Saturday. Would be great to see him get at least a few minutes on the pitch.[/p][/quote]VegasSeagull, Captain Haddock and others there clearly is some problem with Ulloa's clearance. I say this because Poyet (per last week's threads) seemed pretty certain that he would be available last Saturday. Yesterday he didn't seem to be any the wiser about when the clearance would finally come through. As I said earlier on this thread and Alan G Skinner first raised, it is probably tied up with the 3rd party 'part' ownership situation. Have we acquired 100% of Ulloa for our £2 million or only 66% (thereby valuing him at £3 million). Alternatively is there some dispute between Almeira and the 3rd party re splitting the fee. Another scenario might be that the 3rd Party hasn't signed the paperwork yet and if the 3rd party is in Argentina how long might that take... The question I would ask is at what point does Ulloa actually become a Brighton player ? If this drags on can we withdraw from the deal (not that I would want the Albion to do so) in order to sign someone else. If the clearance hasn't come through by the time the transfer window closes will he still be able to play for us when it does ? Generally in Contract law it only becomes binding when (a) all parties have agreed/signed and when 'Consideration' has been paid and received. This is all covered under the Offer and Acceptance part of a contract. It doesn't look healthy that this hasn't been resolved. I would have thought that these potential problems could have been anticipated and a solution found when we were waiting for the passport situation to be finalised. This really is the sort of admin issue that presumably falls under the remits of Bailey and Burke and should not be Poyet's responsibility to deal with. I should add that both Poyet and Ulloa must be thoroughly frustrated by the delay. Hopefully (fingers crossed) clearance will come through by Midday tomorrow so that Ulloa can play against Arsenal. Changing the subject Captain Haddock at what time is the Seagulls over London meeting tonight scheduled to start ?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't worry about it Hovite

5:12pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Sarah Booker Lewis says...

saraman wrote:
Sarah Booker Lewis wrote:
Two comments have been removed for legal reasons.
Hi Sarah, what did I say that was illegal? I only mentioned what is in the Argus reports. If I got it wrong I apologise.
No discussion is permitted about any active court case by law due to contempt of court issues.

This is why comments are disabled on all court stories on all news websites in the UK and any reference to ongoing cases are removed from live comments.
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker Lewis[/bold] wrote: Two comments have been removed for legal reasons.[/p][/quote]Hi Sarah, what did I say that was illegal? I only mentioned what is in the Argus reports. If I got it wrong I apologise.[/p][/quote]No discussion is permitted about any active court case by law due to contempt of court issues. This is why comments are disabled on all court stories on all news websites in the UK and any reference to ongoing cases are removed from live comments. Sarah Booker Lewis

5:13pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Sarah Booker Lewis says...

Further comments have been removed from this story for legal reasons.

Comments will be disabled if there is further discussion about active court cases.
Further comments have been removed from this story for legal reasons. Comments will be disabled if there is further discussion about active court cases. Sarah Booker Lewis

5:15pm Thu 24 Jan 13

WestStander17 says...

Freeloaders wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
Freeloaders wrote: Admits between 10 or 15 shots and a bottle of wine.What a super fit footballer he must be.Maybe get away with in the 70s or 80s.Thats the reason the prem-league don't have many top English players in it now.Plus im sure why Gus is lookng away from home.
What are you on about? This is the story about Bruno & Crofts being injured for the Arsenal game!!!
It really hurts you don't it?lol.Now the real fans can read and see what his really like.For mths on here people like you have told me about the top guy he is.Plus how much he loves the game.LOL.
Who???

Crofts or Bruno?
[quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: Admits between 10 or 15 shots and a bottle of wine.What a super fit footballer he must be.Maybe get away with in the 70s or 80s.Thats the reason the prem-league don't have many top English players in it now.Plus im sure why Gus is lookng away from home.[/p][/quote]What are you on about? This is the story about Bruno & Crofts being injured for the Arsenal game!!![/p][/quote]It really hurts you don't it?lol.Now the real fans can read and see what his really like.For mths on here people like you have told me about the top guy he is.Plus how much he loves the game.LOL.[/p][/quote]Who??? Crofts or Bruno? WestStander17

5:21pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Sarah Booker Lewis wrote:
saraman wrote:
Sarah Booker Lewis wrote:
Two comments have been removed for legal reasons.
Hi Sarah, what did I say that was illegal? I only mentioned what is in the Argus reports. If I got it wrong I apologise.
No discussion is permitted about any active court case by law due to contempt of court issues.

This is why comments are disabled on all court stories on all news websites in the UK and any reference to ongoing cases are removed from live comments.
That's fair enough, but Freeloader can say anything for some reason.
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker Lewis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker Lewis[/bold] wrote: Two comments have been removed for legal reasons.[/p][/quote]Hi Sarah, what did I say that was illegal? I only mentioned what is in the Argus reports. If I got it wrong I apologise.[/p][/quote]No discussion is permitted about any active court case by law due to contempt of court issues. This is why comments are disabled on all court stories on all news websites in the UK and any reference to ongoing cases are removed from live comments.[/p][/quote]That's fair enough, but Freeloader can say anything for some reason. Hovite

5:24pm Thu 24 Jan 13

WestStander17 says...

I think that might be because Freeloaders comments are so confused, they don't even know what he is referring to!!!
I think that might be because Freeloaders comments are so confused, they don't even know what he is referring to!!! WestStander17

5:24pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Sarah Booker Lewis says...

Hovite wrote:
Sarah Booker Lewis wrote:
saraman wrote:
Sarah Booker Lewis wrote:
Two comments have been removed for legal reasons.
Hi Sarah, what did I say that was illegal? I only mentioned what is in the Argus reports. If I got it wrong I apologise.
No discussion is permitted about any active court case by law due to contempt of court issues.

This is why comments are disabled on all court stories on all news websites in the UK and any reference to ongoing cases are removed from live comments.
That's fair enough, but Freeloader can say anything for some reason.
Freeloaders' comment about the case was removed before I posted.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker Lewis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker Lewis[/bold] wrote: Two comments have been removed for legal reasons.[/p][/quote]Hi Sarah, what did I say that was illegal? I only mentioned what is in the Argus reports. If I got it wrong I apologise.[/p][/quote]No discussion is permitted about any active court case by law due to contempt of court issues. This is why comments are disabled on all court stories on all news websites in the UK and any reference to ongoing cases are removed from live comments.[/p][/quote]That's fair enough, but Freeloader can say anything for some reason.[/p][/quote]Freeloaders' comment about the case was removed before I posted. Sarah Booker Lewis

5:34pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Hovite wrote:
Go on Vegas, send them a few hundred emails.
I have sent one, 20 seconds ago lol.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Go on Vegas, send them a few hundred emails.[/p][/quote]I have sent one, 20 seconds ago lol. VegasSeagull

5:39pm Thu 24 Jan 13

saraman says...

Sarah Booker Lewis wrote:
Hovite wrote:
Sarah Booker Lewis wrote:
saraman wrote:
Sarah Booker Lewis wrote: Two comments have been removed for legal reasons.
Hi Sarah, what did I say that was illegal? I only mentioned what is in the Argus reports. If I got it wrong I apologise.
No discussion is permitted about any active court case by law due to contempt of court issues. This is why comments are disabled on all court stories on all news websites in the UK and any reference to ongoing cases are removed from live comments.
That's fair enough, but Freeloader can say anything for some reason.
Freeloaders' comment about the case was removed before I posted.
Fair enough Sarah. But some of the postings on here are really near the knuckle and they are allowed to stand.
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker Lewis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker Lewis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker Lewis[/bold] wrote: Two comments have been removed for legal reasons.[/p][/quote]Hi Sarah, what did I say that was illegal? I only mentioned what is in the Argus reports. If I got it wrong I apologise.[/p][/quote]No discussion is permitted about any active court case by law due to contempt of court issues. This is why comments are disabled on all court stories on all news websites in the UK and any reference to ongoing cases are removed from live comments.[/p][/quote]That's fair enough, but Freeloader can say anything for some reason.[/p][/quote]Freeloaders' comment about the case was removed before I posted.[/p][/quote]Fair enough Sarah. But some of the postings on here are really near the knuckle and they are allowed to stand. saraman

5:40pm Thu 24 Jan 13

jockithenoo says...

saraman wrote:
jockithenoo wrote:
saraman wrote: Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.
Hi saraman I think the clearance has to come from Argentina ! So it could be a bit of a wait UTA
Yes, that's a point Jock. They still haven't forgiven us for The Falklands.
Its as i thought a complete
CONSPIRACY !
LOL :-)
UTA
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Gee, when I first saw the headline my heart was in my mouth. My fear was Vicente was injured again. This Ulloa business is becoming very frustrating. I can't believe that the FA are being that tardy. There must be more to it than we know.[/p][/quote]Hi saraman I think the clearance has to come from Argentina ! So it could be a bit of a wait UTA[/p][/quote]Yes, that's a point Jock. They still haven't forgiven us for The Falklands.[/p][/quote]Its as i thought a complete CONSPIRACY ! LOL :-) UTA jockithenoo

5:40pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Sarah would it not be a good idea to remove the daily coverage from this site and by doing so, remove the temptation and ability to comment?
The paper is putting the info out there so would you not expect comments on what the paper is telling us?
Sarah would it not be a good idea to remove the daily coverage from this site and by doing so, remove the temptation and ability to comment? The paper is putting the info out there so would you not expect comments on what the paper is telling us? VegasSeagull

5:47pm Thu 24 Jan 13

saraman says...

A discussion has just taken place on BBC Radio4 about away ticket prices. It is proposed a maximum of £20 nationwide as a reward and recognition to away supporters for being the most loyal to their respective clubs. I for one would be inclined to attend a few away games at that price. Would anybody else?
A discussion has just taken place on BBC Radio4 about away ticket prices. It is proposed a maximum of £20 nationwide as a reward and recognition to away supporters for being the most loyal to their respective clubs. I for one would be inclined to attend a few away games at that price. Would anybody else? saraman

5:59pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

saraman wrote:
A discussion has just taken place on BBC Radio4 about away ticket prices. It is proposed a maximum of £20 nationwide as a reward and recognition to away supporters for being the most loyal to their respective clubs. I for one would be inclined to attend a few away games at that price. Would anybody else?
Any chance on getting discount flights to go along with that discount away game ticket, I don't need a hotel room.
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: A discussion has just taken place on BBC Radio4 about away ticket prices. It is proposed a maximum of £20 nationwide as a reward and recognition to away supporters for being the most loyal to their respective clubs. I for one would be inclined to attend a few away games at that price. Would anybody else?[/p][/quote]Any chance on getting discount flights to go along with that discount away game ticket, I don't need a hotel room. VegasSeagull

5:59pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Sarah Booker Lewis says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Sarah would it not be a good idea to remove the daily coverage from this site and by doing so, remove the temptation and ability to comment?
The paper is putting the info out there so would you not expect comments on what the paper is telling us?
Commenting is not enabled on any news stories related to court cases as required by law.

However, as stated previously, all comments relating to any active court cases will be removed from unrelated articles.

A newspaper's role is to report news and The Argus will not ignore major news stories.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Sarah would it not be a good idea to remove the daily coverage from this site and by doing so, remove the temptation and ability to comment? The paper is putting the info out there so would you not expect comments on what the paper is telling us?[/p][/quote]Commenting is not enabled on any news stories related to court cases as required by law. However, as stated previously, all comments relating to any active court cases will be removed from unrelated articles. A newspaper's role is to report news and The Argus will not ignore major news stories. Sarah Booker Lewis

6:11pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Sarah Booker Lewis wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: Sarah would it not be a good idea to remove the daily coverage from this site and by doing so, remove the temptation and ability to comment? The paper is putting the info out there so would you not expect comments on what the paper is telling us?
Commenting is not enabled on any news stories related to court cases as required by law. However, as stated previously, all comments relating to any active court cases will be removed from unrelated articles. A newspaper's role is to report news and The Argus will not ignore major news stories.
Ok hun, I get it.
Thanks for replying.
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Booker Lewis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Sarah would it not be a good idea to remove the daily coverage from this site and by doing so, remove the temptation and ability to comment? The paper is putting the info out there so would you not expect comments on what the paper is telling us?[/p][/quote]Commenting is not enabled on any news stories related to court cases as required by law. However, as stated previously, all comments relating to any active court cases will be removed from unrelated articles. A newspaper's role is to report news and The Argus will not ignore major news stories.[/p][/quote]Ok hun, I get it. Thanks for replying. VegasSeagull

6:18pm Thu 24 Jan 13

saraman says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
saraman wrote: A discussion has just taken place on BBC Radio4 about away ticket prices. It is proposed a maximum of £20 nationwide as a reward and recognition to away supporters for being the most loyal to their respective clubs. I for one would be inclined to attend a few away games at that price. Would anybody else?
Any chance on getting discount flights to go along with that discount away game ticket, I don't need a hotel room.
Nice one Vegas.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: A discussion has just taken place on BBC Radio4 about away ticket prices. It is proposed a maximum of £20 nationwide as a reward and recognition to away supporters for being the most loyal to their respective clubs. I for one would be inclined to attend a few away games at that price. Would anybody else?[/p][/quote]Any chance on getting discount flights to go along with that discount away game ticket, I don't need a hotel room.[/p][/quote]Nice one Vegas. saraman

6:18pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Sarah is Vegas legally allowed to call you hun?
Sarah is Vegas legally allowed to call you hun? Hovite

6:24pm Thu 24 Jan 13

mikeygit says...

If it helps--I have just sent a personal e-mail to Mr Barber asking if he will 'come clean' on the Ulloa situation. I will report if I get a reply.
If it helps--I have just sent a personal e-mail to Mr Barber asking if he will 'come clean' on the Ulloa situation. I will report if I get a reply. mikeygit

6:27pm Thu 24 Jan 13

tinker111 says...

Tommy11 wrote:
tinker111 wrote:
Croft no miss better than him available Bruno well LOPAS /Barnes combo is the best we have on right side so no worries
Barnes on right?? you must meen Buckley you nutcase.
Barnes & Lopes played that combo when both right backs were injured and did a fine job ,do you watch the games? know more about football than you will ever know ps wont sink to name calling
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: Croft no miss better than him available Bruno well LOPAS /Barnes combo is the best we have on right side so no worries[/p][/quote]Barnes on right?? you must meen Buckley you nutcase.[/p][/quote]Barnes & Lopes played that combo when both right backs were injured and did a fine job ,do you watch the games? know more about football than you will ever know ps wont sink to name calling tinker111

6:27pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Sorry you wrote him an email asking him to come clean?

What these very words, or were you polite about it?
Sorry you wrote him an email asking him to come clean? What these very words, or were you polite about it? Hovite

6:28pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Hovite wrote:
Sorry you wrote him an email asking him to come clean?

What these very words, or were you polite about it?
Meant for mikeygit
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Sorry you wrote him an email asking him to come clean? What these very words, or were you polite about it?[/p][/quote]Meant for mikeygit Hovite

6:40pm Thu 24 Jan 13

WisdomSpeaks says...

Just heard the news about Becchio handing in transfer request. I'm wondering if we are about to witness a Becchio/CMS swap deal before the deadline.

CMS certainly hasn't seemed to be his usual bubbly self of late and if Leeds wish to avoid backlash from fans they, like many clubs, can 'encourage' the player to put in a transfer request so they can then claim to 'reluctantly agree'. Becchio would fit the South American/Spanish revolution we are witnessing here as well.

Interesting to see what transpires.
Just heard the news about Becchio handing in transfer request. I'm wondering if we are about to witness a Becchio/CMS swap deal before the deadline. CMS certainly hasn't seemed to be his usual bubbly self of late and if Leeds wish to avoid backlash from fans they, like many clubs, can 'encourage' the player to put in a transfer request so they can then claim to 'reluctantly agree'. Becchio would fit the South American/Spanish revolution we are witnessing here as well. Interesting to see what transpires. WisdomSpeaks

6:43pm Thu 24 Jan 13

namgo49 says...

Albion23 wrote:
Seems Leo,s paperwork keeps getting put at the bottom of the pile. I would suggest. What other good reason could thiere be.?
There is something odd here, it should be just a formality but clearly this is not the case.

Hopefully he was bought subject to all the formalities for him to play here having been completed otherwise it's a case of can we have our money back please.

It must something to do with his ownership. The FA won't want another Tevez situation and are therefore taking their time to check with all the right people.

Wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing went belly up.
[quote][p][bold]Albion23[/bold] wrote: Seems Leo,s paperwork keeps getting put at the bottom of the pile. I would suggest. What other good reason could thiere be.?[/p][/quote]There is something odd here, it should be just a formality but clearly this is not the case. Hopefully he was bought subject to all the formalities for him to play here having been completed otherwise it's a case of can we have our money back please. It must something to do with his ownership. The FA won't want another Tevez situation and are therefore taking their time to check with all the right people. Wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing went belly up. namgo49

6:55pm Thu 24 Jan 13

markymark03 says...

Just watching the match between Congo and Niger and the comentaters were more interested about Kaz and our amazing new stadium.

highlight of my day! :)
Just watching the match between Congo and Niger and the comentaters were more interested about Kaz and our amazing new stadium. highlight of my day! :) markymark03

7:00pm Thu 24 Jan 13

OxfordshireSeagull says...

What has happened to stephen dobbie he should play more scored two and not played since.
What has happened to stephen dobbie he should play more scored two and not played since. OxfordshireSeagull

7:00pm Thu 24 Jan 13

saraman says...

Hovite wrote:
Sarah is Vegas legally allowed to call you hun?
I just love you Hovite. I was thinking the same thing but you beat me to it. She seems to me to be a very lovely lass and doing a very good job. Is somebody up all night monitoring these posts because I often post in the early hours. Insomnia is what you call it, or is it amnesia. I can't remember
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Sarah is Vegas legally allowed to call you hun?[/p][/quote]I just love you Hovite. I was thinking the same thing but you beat me to it. She seems to me to be a very lovely lass and doing a very good job. Is somebody up all night monitoring these posts because I often post in the early hours. Insomnia is what you call it, or is it amnesia. I can't remember saraman

7:04pm Thu 24 Jan 13

saraman says...

Radio Sussex just reported that clearance for Ulloa to play Saturday will not come through in time. The plot thickens.
Radio Sussex just reported that clearance for Ulloa to play Saturday will not come through in time. The plot thickens. saraman

7:12pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

saraman wrote:
Hovite wrote:
Sarah is Vegas legally allowed to call you hun?
I just love you Hovite. I was thinking the same thing but you beat me to it. She seems to me to be a very lovely lass and doing a very good job. Is somebody up all night monitoring these posts because I often post in the early hours. Insomnia is what you call it, or is it amnesia. I can't remember
Our dearest little sweet rose petal lol

Sorry Sarah ;o)
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Sarah is Vegas legally allowed to call you hun?[/p][/quote]I just love you Hovite. I was thinking the same thing but you beat me to it. She seems to me to be a very lovely lass and doing a very good job. Is somebody up all night monitoring these posts because I often post in the early hours. Insomnia is what you call it, or is it amnesia. I can't remember[/p][/quote]Our dearest little sweet rose petal lol Sorry Sarah ;o) Hovite

7:16pm Thu 24 Jan 13

WisdomSpeaks says...

"Oh what a tangled web we weave - when first we practice to deceive" - With thanks to Sir Walter Scott!
"Oh what a tangled web we weave - when first we practice to deceive" - With thanks to Sir Walter Scott! WisdomSpeaks

7:23pm Thu 24 Jan 13

SMF20 says...

I personally don't think that we have anything to worry about regarding Ulloa.
We are a professional bunch these days and I do not believe for one second that our management team would not have dotted every I and crossed every T before announcing his arrival.
My guess is that all of the hold ups are purely administrative... Think about everything we go through when we move home and how many people, banks, utility companies need to be contacted. It's endless and very painful.
Now think how many people will be involved when you not only move home but move country, on top of this you have now dual citizenship and those documents have only just arrived. There will be issues in both South America and Spain to deal with, there will be Almeria and the Spanish and English Fa to deal with. It really isn't an easy paperwork exercise.

It could of course be a third party :) very much doubt it though.

Never a dull moment supporting the Albion.
I personally don't think that we have anything to worry about regarding Ulloa. We are a professional bunch these days and I do not believe for one second that our management team would not have dotted every I and crossed every T before announcing his arrival. My guess is that all of the hold ups are purely administrative... Think about everything we go through when we move home and how many people, banks, utility companies need to be contacted. It's endless and very painful. Now think how many people will be involved when you not only move home but move country, on top of this you have now dual citizenship and those documents have only just arrived. There will be issues in both South America and Spain to deal with, there will be Almeria and the Spanish and English Fa to deal with. It really isn't an easy paperwork exercise. It could of course be a third party :) very much doubt it though. Never a dull moment supporting the Albion. SMF20

7:32pm Thu 24 Jan 13

WisdomSpeaks says...

I've just had a vision!!!! It's all been a ruse. The clearance is here and he will be announced in the starting 11 when the team sheet goes into the ref at 2 pm on Saturday - dream on baby!!!!!
I've just had a vision!!!! It's all been a ruse. The clearance is here and he will be announced in the starting 11 when the team sheet goes into the ref at 2 pm on Saturday - dream on baby!!!!! WisdomSpeaks

7:43pm Thu 24 Jan 13

WisdomSpeaks says...

Keep getting these visions - when Arsene sees the team sheet he goes into panick. Tells Wilshire to play centre back and do a man marking job on our new boy. Sadly Jack is not up for that role and Leo runs riot with a searing hatrick on his debut. Albion win a thriller 3-2 and are in the hat for the 5th Round!!!! Get in there!!!! It's all a dream anyway so why not make it a happy dream?
Keep getting these visions - when Arsene sees the team sheet he goes into panick. Tells Wilshire to play centre back and do a man marking job on our new boy. Sadly Jack is not up for that role and Leo runs riot with a searing hatrick on his debut. Albion win a thriller 3-2 and are in the hat for the 5th Round!!!! Get in there!!!! It's all a dream anyway so why not make it a happy dream? WisdomSpeaks

7:48pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

The club replied to my e-mail and whilst I am not going to go into details, not without permission, I will say the following.

There isn't a problem with Ulloa's paper work, given time it will go through.
The club replied to my e-mail and whilst I am not going to go into details, not without permission, I will say the following. There isn't a problem with Ulloa's paper work, given time it will go through. VegasSeagull

8:20pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Well done, but now you've got your friend on the inside, you're not going to go into detail without permission from the club?

You are one of them now, withholding information, how dare you, double standards Vegas.
Well done, but now you've got your friend on the inside, you're not going to go into detail without permission from the club? You are one of them now, withholding information, how dare you, double standards Vegas. Hovite

8:23pm Thu 24 Jan 13

mikeygit says...

Hovite--in answer to your question--I am always polite!!! No point in doing otherwise. But according to the post above Radio Sussex has information that Ulloa will NOT be ready for Sat---the plot does thicken. 'Given time the paperwork will go thru' By the way Gus is talking he does not know this?? How much time have we got.
Hovite--in answer to your question--I am always polite!!! No point in doing otherwise. But according to the post above Radio Sussex has information that Ulloa will NOT be ready for Sat---the plot does thicken. 'Given time the paperwork will go thru' By the way Gus is talking he does not know this?? How much time have we got. mikeygit

8:29pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Hovite wrote:
Well done, but now you've got your friend on the inside, you're not going to go into detail without permission from the club? You are one of them now, withholding information, how dare you, double standards Vegas.
So cruel Hovite.
The thing is I did get a reply from Mr. Barber, he explained the delay.
I think it would be wrong of me to disclose the content of a person to person communication without Mr. Barber agreeing.

I am satisfied that the hold up is not a problem and that things are proceeding.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Well done, but now you've got your friend on the inside, you're not going to go into detail without permission from the club? You are one of them now, withholding information, how dare you, double standards Vegas.[/p][/quote]So cruel Hovite. The thing is I did get a reply from Mr. Barber, he explained the delay. I think it would be wrong of me to disclose the content of a person to person communication without Mr. Barber agreeing. I am satisfied that the hold up is not a problem and that things are proceeding. VegasSeagull

8:32pm Thu 24 Jan 13

tonytowner1 says...

I see Gus is calling for an "intelligent performance" - let's hope he puts out an intelligent team selection then as, Gus, there's no need to do an "odd" team selection every 2nd - 3rd match - just a good one for us fans for every match please!!
I see Gus is calling for an "intelligent performance" - let's hope he puts out an intelligent team selection then as, Gus, there's no need to do an "odd" team selection every 2nd - 3rd match - just a good one for us fans for every match please!! tonytowner1

8:34pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite wrote:
Well done, but now you've got your friend on the inside, you're not going to go into detail without permission from the club? You are one of them now, withholding information, how dare you, double standards Vegas.
So cruel Hovite.
The thing is I did get a reply from Mr. Barber, he explained the delay.
I think it would be wrong of me to disclose the content of a person to person communication without Mr. Barber agreeing.

I am satisfied that the hold up is not a problem and that things are proceeding.
Fair enough, Vegas. I doubt he is expecting you to keep it secret unless he specifically told you not to spread it (unlikely), but fair enough.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Well done, but now you've got your friend on the inside, you're not going to go into detail without permission from the club? You are one of them now, withholding information, how dare you, double standards Vegas.[/p][/quote]So cruel Hovite. The thing is I did get a reply from Mr. Barber, he explained the delay. I think it would be wrong of me to disclose the content of a person to person communication without Mr. Barber agreeing. I am satisfied that the hold up is not a problem and that things are proceeding.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, Vegas. I doubt he is expecting you to keep it secret unless he specifically told you not to spread it (unlikely), but fair enough. Old Scrote of the Amex

8:58pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

mikeygit wrote:
Hovite--in answer to your question--I am always polite!!! No point in doing otherwise. But according to the post above Radio Sussex has information that Ulloa will NOT be ready for Sat---the plot does thicken. 'Given time the paperwork will go thru' By the way Gus is talking he does not know this?? How much time have we got.
Maybe Gus should give Vegas a call?
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Hovite--in answer to your question--I am always polite!!! No point in doing otherwise. But according to the post above Radio Sussex has information that Ulloa will NOT be ready for Sat---the plot does thicken. 'Given time the paperwork will go thru' By the way Gus is talking he does not know this?? How much time have we got.[/p][/quote]Maybe Gus should give Vegas a call? Hovite

9:58pm Thu 24 Jan 13

hannover seagull says...

Bridge,Caldi,Greer and David for Saturday please if Bruno is still sidelined

Sorry Adam
UTA..............
Bridge,Caldi,Greer and David for Saturday please if Bruno is still sidelined Sorry Adam UTA.............. hannover seagull

10:25pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Hannover I have been thinking the same and if you choose David then Barnes should start as the two of them have a good understanding when David is playing at right back.

I really can't make my mind up for the rest of the 11.
Hannover I have been thinking the same and if you choose David then Barnes should start as the two of them have a good understanding when David is playing at right back. I really can't make my mind up for the rest of the 11. VegasSeagull

10:31pm Thu 24 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

How about we make a move for Arshavin, he is doing very little at Arsenal. Me might play against us on saturday.

Any thoughts, anyone?
How about we make a move for Arshavin, he is doing very little at Arsenal. Me might play against us on saturday. Any thoughts, anyone? VegasSeagull

10:47pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hovite says...

hannover, are you putting Calde Left CB instead of El Abd?

I think if Gus did that, he would get slammed on here.
hannover, are you putting Calde Left CB instead of El Abd? I think if Gus did that, he would get slammed on here. Hovite

11:46pm Thu 24 Jan 13

SA Seagull says...

I very much like the £20 quid away day ticket scheme, especially as the rail option North of Birmingham often goes beyond £80 quid a return. You might even be lucky enough to get a train that actually arrives in Brighton before the station closes for the night.
I very much like the £20 quid away day ticket scheme, especially as the rail option North of Birmingham often goes beyond £80 quid a return. You might even be lucky enough to get a train that actually arrives in Brighton before the station closes for the night. SA Seagull

11:56pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Captain Haddock says...

Hovite wrote:
Well done, but now you've got your friend on the inside, you're not going to go into detail without permission from the club? You are one of them now, withholding information, how dare you, double standards Vegas.
He's one of them. Burn him!
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Well done, but now you've got your friend on the inside, you're not going to go into detail without permission from the club? You are one of them now, withholding information, how dare you, double standards Vegas.[/p][/quote]He's one of them. Burn him! Captain Haddock

8:37am Fri 25 Jan 13

Hugothepug says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
Just heard the news about Becchio handing in transfer request. I'm wondering if we are about to witness a Becchio/CMS swap deal before the deadline. CMS certainly hasn't seemed to be his usual bubbly self of late and if Leeds wish to avoid backlash from fans they, like many clubs, can 'encourage' the player to put in a transfer request so they can then claim to 'reluctantly agree'. Becchio would fit the South American/Spanish revolution we are witnessing here as well. Interesting to see what transpires.
Good shout!!

thought the very same when I heard. Think there may be some miles in this one.

Value about the same?

Anyone be happy with this?
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: Just heard the news about Becchio handing in transfer request. I'm wondering if we are about to witness a Becchio/CMS swap deal before the deadline. CMS certainly hasn't seemed to be his usual bubbly self of late and if Leeds wish to avoid backlash from fans they, like many clubs, can 'encourage' the player to put in a transfer request so they can then claim to 'reluctantly agree'. Becchio would fit the South American/Spanish revolution we are witnessing here as well. Interesting to see what transpires.[/p][/quote]Good shout!! thought the very same when I heard. Think there may be some miles in this one. Value about the same? Anyone be happy with this? Hugothepug

12:04pm Fri 25 Jan 13

olebut says...

How odd that Ulloa's clearance is taking so long. I bet it comes through just in time to make it too late for him to play on saturday, of course if he was in one of the premiership teams, say Arsenal I bet it would have happened within 24 hours of the application going in.

Gus will pick the best team he thinks will beat Arsenal from those available and then it is up to the lads on the pitch

In Gus We Trust
How odd that Ulloa's clearance is taking so long. I bet it comes through just in time to make it too late for him to play on saturday, of course if he was in one of the premiership teams, say Arsenal I bet it would have happened within 24 hours of the application going in. Gus will pick the best team he thinks will beat Arsenal from those available and then it is up to the lads on the pitch In Gus We Trust olebut

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